Re: [Cooker] Grub segfault...
On Saturday 16 August 2003 03:58 pm, Jay DeKing wrote: > On Friday 15 August 2003 4:17 am, Gregoire Favre honored me with this > > communique: > > Hello, > > > > I have installed the new GRUB yesterday, and I didn't notice a problem, > > know at boot, all I can see is: "GRUB". > > I had the same problem. Neither of my boot floppies worked either (yes, > they have the correct kernel for my current setup, and oddly enough they > have worked in the past). > > I ended up downloading the MDK9.2 Beta 2 iso images with my WinXP box and > burning them to CD so I could run "rescue". I then went to /boot/grub and > ran install.sh. Problem solved - I hope. The box booted up properly at that > point. > > Jay > > > And from the drakboot: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPM]# drakboot > > FATAL: Module floppy not found. > > FATAL: Module floppy not found. > > FATAL: Module floppy not found. > > FATAL: Module floppy not found. > > Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. > > /boot/grub/install.sh: line 4: 3616 Segmentation fault (core > > dumped) grub --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --batch < > install (hd0,0)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd0,0)/boot/grub/stage2 p > > (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst > > quit > > EOF > > > > > > Grégoire > > __ > > http://www-ima.unil.ch/greg ICQ:16624071 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I had this problem as well - and was unable to get the install script to run. When I took a look at menu.lst (which had been getting rather long, as every time i've installed a new kernel new entries get made, etc. I edited the file to take out a few of the redundant ones so that the list was shorter, and the install script worked. Is the current version of grub allowing less entries? I did not install any new kernels when i updated grub last week, so the file should have been the same as it was when the last version of grub installed. V.
Re: [Cooker] Grub segfault...
On Friday 15 August 2003 4:17 am, Gregoire Favre honored me with this communique: > Hello, > > I have installed the new GRUB yesterday, and I didn't notice a problem, > know at boot, all I can see is: "GRUB". > I had the same problem. Neither of my boot floppies worked either (yes, they have the correct kernel for my current setup, and oddly enough they have worked in the past). I ended up downloading the MDK9.2 Beta 2 iso images with my WinXP box and burning them to CD so I could run "rescue". I then went to /boot/grub and ran install.sh. Problem solved - I hope. The box booted up properly at that point. Jay > And from the drakboot: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPM]# drakboot > FATAL: Module floppy not found. > FATAL: Module floppy not found. > FATAL: Module floppy not found. > FATAL: Module floppy not found. > Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. > /boot/grub/install.sh: line 4: 3616 Segmentation fault (core > dumped) grub --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map --batch < install (hd0,0)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd0,0)/boot/grub/stage2 p > (hd0,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst > quit > EOF > > > Grégoire > __ > http://www-ima.unil.ch/greg ICQ:16624071 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison
Re: [Cooker] Grub menu not correct in rc2
Stéphane Teletchéa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And the map (0x81) (0x80) command doesn't work : grub doesn't boot, and grub > shell is invocated instead of booting the windows partition. > > I manually change it and it works (but as it windows sees two partitions). > > title windows > map (hd2) (hd0) > chainloader (hd2,0)+1 > boot bug accepted, but i won't fix it for 9.0
Re: [Cooker] Grub and NVIDIA question
i heve a nvidia tnt2 32mb card, and i'm using mandrake82 ( with some cooker updates ) and two days ago i switched from lilo to grub... and grub works without problems...in text mode.. bye gabor On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 02:28:25PM -0400, Denis Pelletier wrote: > Hello, > > Is anyone using grub with an NVIDIA video card? Is it working correctly? > > On my laptop, grub is VERY slow at drawing the screen when I boot. It > takes 3-4 seconds to draw the screen and about one second to change the > cursos from one entry to the next. The video card of my laptop is an > NVIDIA Geforce2 Go. > > I ask this because I also use grub with my desktop computer (Matrox G400) > and I don't have speed problems. > > Thanks. > > Denis > ___ > Denis Pelletier > Étudiant au doctorat > sciences économiques, Université de Montréal >
Re: [Cooker] Grub and NVIDIA question
I think I saw the same when i used grub a few months ago. Very slow drawing of the menu. But then, my NVIDIA system is strange anyway. All kernels, exept when compiled with VGA 16 or RIVA framebuffer do not show _anything at all_ on screen. Lilo shows up ok, even in graphical mode, than it sets console to VGA and the screen turns black until X starts; switching to console after that works just fine. (thus: even without framebuffer). It happens on all 2.4 kernels since 2.4.8 (didn't test earlier) and also 2.2.20 which I tested yesterday. Mandrake CD boot kernel does give me something on screen however. So i was wondering if there's a way to boot the CDROM kernel from my HDD? just to test. Might be a config thing. danny On Friday 12 April 2002 08:28 pm, you wrote: > Hello, > > Is anyone using grub with an NVIDIA video card? Is it working correctly? > > On my laptop, grub is VERY slow at drawing the screen when I boot. It > takes 3-4 seconds to draw the screen and about one second to change the > cursos from one entry to the next. The video card of my laptop is an > NVIDIA Geforce2 Go. > > I ask this because I also use grub with my desktop computer (Matrox G400) > and I don't have speed problems. > > Thanks. > > Denis > ___ > Denis Pelletier > Étudiant au doctorat > sciences économiques, Université de Montréal
Re: [Cooker] grub install is trashy
Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 2002-03-03 at 01:47, Pixel wrote: > > Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > grub> install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 > > > p (hdgrub> install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) > > > (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p (hd1grub> install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d > > > (hd0) (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p (hd1grub> install > > > (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p (hd1grub> > > > install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p > > > (hd1grub> install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) > > > ... > > > > won't fix :) > > > Sometimes I feel I am the only one in the world using it ;) no you're not. I do use it, and many people here do so too. It just doesn't look like a big deal ;p anyway, fix are welcome ;)
Re: [Cooker] grub install is trashy
On Sun, 2002-03-03 at 01:47, Pixel wrote: > Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > grub> install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 > > p (hdgrub> install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) > > (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p (hd1grub> install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d > > (hd0) (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p (hd1grub> install > > (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p (hd1grub> > > install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p > > (hd1grub> install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) > > ... > > won't fix :) > Sometimes I feel I am the only one in the world using it ;) Thanks for answering. =--= kk1
Re: [Cooker] grub install is trashy
Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > grub> install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 > p (hdgrub> install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) > (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p (hd1grub> install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d > (hd0) (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p (hd1grub> install > (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p (hd1grub> > install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage2 p > (hd1grub> install (hd1,4)/boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) > ... won't fix :)
Re: [Cooker] grub
On Mon, 2001-09-17 at 16:51, Jay DeKing wrote: > >2 We can't use them at the same time > > ? We can not use them both ? > have you tried having 2-3 Linux distros ( or installations)+ FreeBSD on > the same mashine > can you install lilo on 2 places ? or on second drive > why not lilo -> /dev/hda ->> lin-distroes,grub >grub -> /dev/hdb->> FreeBSD?lin-distros?smth else > > >so why do i need to have them > >installed? Ex Why we dont have Xfree 3.X and 4.X at the same time? > > why not ? I prefer grub; it's much easier to modify and restart without having to run "lilo" at the command line before rebooting. And, I have both XFree 3.3.6 and 4.x loaded, because StarOffice chokes on 4.x (so I actually run 3.3.6) but other programs depend on the presence of the 4.x libraries. Finally, isn't "choice" one of the driving forces that brought many of us to the Linux camp in the first place? Jay DeKing The point of the original poster remains. We should not be REQUIRED to have BOTH installed. We should be able to CHOOSE one OR the other, and have that be enough to resolve package dependencies, which ever ONE that may be. If you WANT to have both, then by all means do. -- TTFN, Lonnie Borntreger -- -- -- Our mission is to authoritatively promote timely methods of empowerment so that we may endeavor to collaboratively supply inexpensive opportunities to exceed customer expectations
Re: [Cooker] grub
> >2 We can't use them at the same time > > ? We can not use them both ? > have you tried having 2-3 Linux distros ( or installations)+ FreeBSD on > the same mashine > can you install lilo on 2 places ? or on second drive > why not lilo -> /dev/hda ->> lin-distroes,grub >grub -> /dev/hdb->> FreeBSD?lin-distros?smth else > > >so why do i need to have them > >installed? Ex Why we dont have Xfree 3.X and 4.X at the same time? > > why not ? I prefer grub; it's much easier to modify and restart without having to run "lilo" at the command line before rebooting. And, I have both XFree 3.3.6 and 4.x loaded, because StarOffice chokes on 4.x (so I actually run 3.3.6) but other programs depend on the presence of the 4.x libraries. Finally, isn't "choice" one of the driving forces that brought many of us to the Linux camp in the first place? Jay DeKing
Re: [Cooker] grub
Yura Gusev wrote: >On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Hoyt wrote: > I think they(lilo and grub) need to provide bootloader so they can't be installed at the same time. And basesystem need to depend on bootloader so you need to install one of them. >>>And I am happy having both so I can play with both. >>> >>Having both is a choice. >> >>Using either is a choice. >> >>Having all the scripts work with LILO and GRUB is good work on Mandrake's >>part since it gives us a choice. Thanks, guys. >> > >1 Plaing with them. Dont you have anything else todo? > playing is always a good thing , the problem is when we have nothing to play with > >2 We can't use them at the same time > ? We can not use them both ? have you tried having 2-3 Linux distros ( or installations)+ FreeBSD on the same mashine can you install lilo on 2 places ? or on second drive why not lilo -> /dev/hda ->> lin-distroes,grub grub -> /dev/hdb->> FreeBSD?lin-distros?smth else >so why do i need to have them >installed? Ex Why we dont have Xfree 3.X and 4.X at the same time? > why not ? >
Re: [Cooker] grub
On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Hoyt wrote: > > > I think they(lilo and grub) need to provide bootloader so they can't be > > > installed at the same time. And basesystem need to depend on bootloader > > > so you need to install one of them. > > > > And I am happy having both so I can play with both. > > Having both is a choice. > > Using either is a choice. > > Having all the scripts work with LILO and GRUB is good work on Mandrake's > part since it gives us a choice. Thanks, guys. 1 Plaing with them. Dont you have anything else todo? 2 We can't use them at the same time so why do i need to have them installed? Ex Why we dont have Xfree 3.X and 4.X at the same time? -- 6:47pm up 23 days, 7:50, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.12, 0.09 __ | / \ |Iouri Goussev// \\ \_\\ //_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\\()//_ .'/()\'. Foo-Bar / // \\ \ jgs\\ // http://foobar.irc-unix.net| \__/ | I am not 31337. But I can use the Vi editor... ;-0
Re: [Cooker] grub
On Sunday 16 September 2001 02:33 am, you wrote: > Yura Gusev wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Vincent Meyer wrote: > >>yeah, we really need grub. While I use Lilo with the pretty screen > >>on my desktop, it doesn't display correctly on my laptop, and I prefer > >>on that machine to have grub. (yes, I know there is a text based lilo. > >>On the machine the pretty one works on, I like it, and so do my kids) > > > > But do we need them at the same time? > > > > I think they(lilo and grub) need to provide bootloader so they can't be > > installed at the same time. And basesystem need to depend on bootloader > > so you need to install one of them. > > And I am happy having both so I can play with both. Having both is a choice. Using either is a choice. Having all the scripts work with LILO and GRUB is good work on Mandrake's part since it gives us a choice. Thanks, guys. Hoyt
Re: [Cooker] grub
Yura Gusev wrote: > On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Vincent Meyer wrote: > > >>yeah, we really need grub. While I use Lilo with the pretty screen >>on my desktop, it doesn't display correctly on my laptop, and I prefer >>on that machine to have grub. (yes, I know there is a text based lilo. >>On the machine the pretty one works on, I like it, and so do my kids) >> > But do we need them at the same time? > > I think they(lilo and grub) need to provide bootloader so they can't be > installed at the same time. And basesystem need to depend on bootloader > so you need to install one of them. > And I am happy having both so I can play with both.
Re: [Cooker] grub
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > Yura Gusev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>Do we really need grub? I think lilo works just fine. >> > > grub is better but less friendly. > > > agreed. better in some respects as far as say, command line editing, less need for repeated rebuilding, etc. Too bad it recently did something messed up that made it so my father's 2nd win drive was not properly recognized, however when i booted lin and run lilo with no modification at all, it's all good. /me wonders...
Re: [Cooker] grub
I agree. I don't know any reason why both are required. V.
Re: [Cooker] grub
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Vincent Meyer wrote: > yeah, we really need grub. While I use Lilo with the pretty screen > on my desktop, it doesn't display correctly on my laptop, and I prefer > on that machine to have grub. (yes, I know there is a text based lilo. > On the machine the pretty one works on, I like it, and so do my kids) But do we need them at the same time? I think they(lilo and grub) need to provide bootloader so they can't be installed at the same time. And basesystem need to depend on bootloader so you need to install one of them. -- 9:13pm up 22 days, 10:16, 3 users, load average: 0.03, 0.11, 0.09 __ | / \ |Iouri Goussev// \\ \_\\ //_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\\()//_ .'/()\'. Foo-Bar / // \\ \ jgs\\ // http://foobar.irc-unix.net| \__/ | I am not 31337. But I can use the Vi editor... ;-0
Re: [Cooker] grub
yeah, we really need grub. While I use Lilo with the pretty screen on my desktop, it doesn't display correctly on my laptop, and I prefer on that machine to have grub. (yes, I know there is a text based lilo. On the machine the pretty one works on, I like it, and so do my kids) Vinny
Re: [Cooker] grub
On 16 Sep 2001, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > Do we really need grub? I think lilo works just fine. > > grub is better but less friendly. OK if user wants grub thats ok. But i dont need 2 bootloaders installed by default. (basesystem depends on lilo and grub) -- 8:46pm up 22 days, 9:50, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.07 __ | / \ |Iouri Goussev// \\ \_\\ //_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\\()//_ .'/()\'. Foo-Bar / // \\ \ jgs\\ // http://foobar.irc-unix.net| \__/ | I am not 31337. But I can use the Vi editor... ;-0
Re: [Cooker] grub broken now? grub-0.5.96.1-8mdk
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:45:47PM -0400, salane wrote: > rpm -q grub > grub-0.5.96.1-8mdk > It won't install by using control panel [..] > Error 31: File is not sector aligned It is not a grub problem but a ControlCenter bug.. it has been "fixed" by disabling the feature the time to correct the bug :( Please update your drakxtools and drakxtools-newt rpms. yves -- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] amour, gloire et beaute, des mots qui font rever...
Re: [Cooker] grub broken now? grub-0.5.96.1-8mdk
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, salane wrote: > > >grub /dev/hda7 > grub> > setup --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 --prefix=/grub (hd0,6) > Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... yes > Checking if "/grub/stage2" exists... yes > Checking if "/grub/reiserfs_stage1_5" exists... yes > Running "install --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /grub/stage1 d (hd0,6) > /grub/reiserfs_stage1_5 p /grub/stage2"... failed > > Error 31: File is not sector aligned > > It is not (AFAIK) grub problem. Obviously, reiser allows for several files (fragments) in one block (to conserve space?) Grub does not like it. Documentation for Grub suggests mounting reiser with notail option. That's very nice ... the only problem is, it does NOT chage existing file allocation, so if you happen to have not-sector-aligned file, it remains. I got the same problem after I converted to Resier (I have a single partition) and wanted to give grub a try. bad luck ... so much about grub being the best boot loader ... -andrej
Re: [Cooker] grub-0.5.96.1-8mdk is missing docs
So sprach Pixel am Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 07:42:27PM +0200: > Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi! > > > > Is it right that the only available documentation for grub in > > grub-0.5.96.1-8mdk are the info/man pages? I've also installed the -doc > > subpackage, but this only contains: > > > > /usr/share/doc/grub-doc-0.5.96.1 > > /usr/share/doc/grub-doc-0.5.96.1/BUGS > > /usr/share/doc/grub-doc-0.5.96.1/ChangeLog > > /usr/share/doc/grub-doc-0.5.96.1/NEWS > > /usr/share/doc/grub-doc-0.5.96.1/TODO > > /usr/share/doc/grub-doc-0.5.96.1/menu.lst > > what are you missing? Uhm, don't know for sure - but I see in the docs directory of the source tarball something like user-ref.texi among other things. Is this included in the info pages? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 0 hours 38 minutes
Re: [Cooker] grub-0.5.96.1-8mdk is missing docs
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi! > > Is it right that the only available documentation for grub in > grub-0.5.96.1-8mdk are the info/man pages? I've also installed the -doc > subpackage, but this only contains: > > /usr/share/doc/grub-doc-0.5.96.1 > /usr/share/doc/grub-doc-0.5.96.1/BUGS > /usr/share/doc/grub-doc-0.5.96.1/ChangeLog > /usr/share/doc/grub-doc-0.5.96.1/NEWS > /usr/share/doc/grub-doc-0.5.96.1/TODO > /usr/share/doc/grub-doc-0.5.96.1/menu.lst what are you missing?
Re: [Cooker] GRUB...Why is it a dependency of base system (i.e why can't it be removed?)
So sprach Ryan Little am Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 12:20:50AM -0500: > Why is Grub installed mandatory? If you try to unistall it it says it's > rewuired by basesystemthat's great but I use good ol liloperhaps > this dependency could be romoved.question though...since I'm using > LILO can I safely force a remove on GRUB? a) Please write shorter lines b) Yes, you can force the removal of GRUB Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen Uptime: 0 hours 25 minutes
Re: [Cooker] GRUB...Why is it a dependency of base system (i.e why can't it be removed?)
On 03.30 Ryan Little wrote: > > Wish I could, take a look at this :( > [root@littlebox /root]# rpm -e --force grub > Macro %_install_langs has empty body > rpm: only installation, upgrading, rmsource and rmspec may be forced p... I will never get used to which one in used in each case. Try with --nodeps. > [root@littlebox /root]# rpm --version > Macro %_install_langs has empty body > RPM version 4.0 > [root@littlebox /root]# > > BTW, how can I fix that damn macro problem? > It reminds me a thread long ago in cooker or expert list. It was something related with an old rpm config file still lying in /etc (i think), and not needed by newer rpm's... Yes, I got it: check your /etc/rpm/macros mine is like: %_install_langs en_US:en but you can try to delete it completely. -- J.A. Magallon # Let the source mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] # be with you, Luke... Linux werewolf 2.4.2-ac28 #1 SMP Thu Mar 29 16:41:17 CEST 2001 i686
Re: [Cooker] GRUB...Why is it a dependency of base system (i.e whycan't it be removed?)
Not sure about macro thing, but to forcefully remove a package, hvae to use: rpm -e --nodeps On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Ryan Little wrote: > > Linux werewolf 2.4.2-ac28 #1 SMP Thu Mar 29 16:41:17 CEST 2001 i686 > > Wish I could, take a look at this :( > [root@littlebox /root]# rpm -e --force grub > Macro %_install_langs has empty body > rpm: only installation, upgrading, rmsource and rmspec may be forced > [root@littlebox /root]# rpm --version > Macro %_install_langs has empty body > RPM version 4.0 > [root@littlebox /root]#
Re: [Cooker] GRUB...Why is it a dependency of base system (i.e why can't it be removed?)
- Original Message - From: "J . A . Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] GRUB...Why is it a dependency of base system (i.e why can't it be removed?) > > On 03.29 R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: > > > > This issue has been brought up before, and somebody (I forgot the name) > > suggested that basesystem requires a virtual package called "bootloader" > > or something like that instead of requiring both lilo and grub. And then > > nobody followed up. Period. > > > > It was me (at least one). If you are short of / or /boot partitions space, > like me, just rpm -e --force grub. You can live without it. > > -- > J.A. Magallon # Let the source > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] # be with you, Luke... > > Linux werewolf 2.4.2-ac28 #1 SMP Thu Mar 29 16:41:17 CEST 2001 i686 Wish I could, take a look at this :( [root@littlebox /root]# rpm -e --force grub Macro %_install_langs has empty body rpm: only installation, upgrading, rmsource and rmspec may be forced [root@littlebox /root]# rpm --version Macro %_install_langs has empty body RPM version 4.0 [root@littlebox /root]# BTW, how can I fix that damn macro problem?
Re: [Cooker] GRUB...Why is it a dependency of base system (i.e why can't it be removed?)
On 03.29 R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: > > This issue has been brought up before, and somebody (I forgot the name) > suggested that basesystem requires a virtual package called "bootloader" > or something like that instead of requiring both lilo and grub. And then > nobody followed up. Period. > It was me (at least one). If you are short of / or /boot partitions space, like me, just rpm -e --force grub. You can live without it. -- J.A. Magallon # Let the source mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] # be with you, Luke... Linux werewolf 2.4.2-ac28 #1 SMP Thu Mar 29 16:41:17 CEST 2001 i686
Re: [Cooker] GRUB...Why is it a dependency of base system (i.e whycan't it be removed?)
This issue has been brought up before, and somebody (I forgot the name) suggested that basesystem requires a virtual package called "bootloader" or something like that instead of requiring both lilo and grub. And then nobody followed up. Period. Abel Cheung On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Ryan Little wrote: > Why is Grub installed mandatory? If you try to unistall it it says > it's rewuired by basesystemthat's great but I use good ol > liloperhaps this dependency could be romoved.question > though...since I'm using LILO can I safely force a remove on GRUB? > Ryan >
Re: [Cooker] Grub fatal issues
Ed Wilts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I upgraded to the grub-0.5.96.1-1mdk release yesterday and discovered that > it's fatal. Grub reports an incompability between stage1 and stage2. Ignore oops, forgotten to call it in %post, should be ok in grub-0.5.96-1.2mdk: - add a call to /boot/grub/install.sh if needed
Re: [Cooker] Grub fatal issues
On Monday 11 December 2000 06:32, you wrote: > I upgraded to the grub-0.5.96.1-1mdk release yesterday and discovered that > it's fatal. Grub reports an incompability between stage1 and stage2. I just did a strings on stage2 to try and remember the exact error message, and I think it was: "Bad or corrupt version of stage1/stage2 " -- Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Grub doesn't handle reiserfs with another ext2fs
Thomas Poindessous wrote: > I want to use grub for booting mandrake on hda and debian on hdc. But as > grub use reiserfs_stage1.5, it can't handle ext2fs. > I tried to install reiserfs-grub on hda and ext2fs-grub on hdc and > chainloader from hda to hdc during the boot, but it doesn't work. > maybe, I need to try 0.5.96 ? Or LILO... (-: -- "The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became truth." -- George Orwell, 1984
Re: [Cooker] Grub doesn't handle reiserfs with another ext2fs
Thomas Poindessous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, I used grub from 7.2 (grub-0.5.95-7mdk). > I have 3 reiserfs part on hda and another ext2fs on hdc. > I want to use grub for booting mandrake on hda and debian on hdc. But as > grub use reiserfs_stage1.5, it can't handle ext2fs. > I tried to install reiserfs-grub on hda and ext2fs-grub on hdc and > chainloader from hda to hdc during the boot, but it doesn't work. > > maybe, I need to try 0.5.96 ? don't know, but you should be able to use the stage2 which handle both instead of stage1.5
Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] GRUB not working with SCSI boot disk
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Still not on cooker list at Thu Aug 24 04:31:55 BST 2000, so here's a > > FMY what is BST ? > British Summer Time, which is GMT + 1 -- -- Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrexham, UK KDE - the professionals' choice --
Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] GRUB not working with SCSI boot disk
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Pixel wrote: > Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > BTW, lilo-0.21.5-1mdk.i586.rpm on Cooker gives a nice menu, but it > > installs /boot/boot.b as a link to boot-menu.b, so drakboot can't make you > > a boot floppy - it can't open boot.b. "Progress means deterioation." > > I don't understand what/who is wrong here. Are you talking about drakfloppy > ("Create a boot floppy") or really drakboot ("Configure LILO/GRUB") > > I don't see what can be failing... Sorry - I meant drakfloppy of course - but mkbootdisk fails too, so the problem is with lilo, not drakfloppy. -- -- Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrexham, UK KDE - the professionals' choice --
Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] GRUB not working with SCSI boot disk
Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Still not on cooker list at Thu Aug 24 04:31:55 BST 2000, so here's a > > FMY what is BST ? i believe it include all this city : (chmou@cassini)[share/zoneinfo]-% grep -riw BST * Binary file America/Nome matches Binary file America/Adak matches Binary file America/Atka matches Binary file Eire matches Binary file Europe/Belfast matches Binary file Europe/Dublin matches Binary file Europe/Gibraltar matches Binary file Europe/London matches Binary file GB matches Binary file GB-Eire matches Binary file Pacific/Midway matches Binary file Pacific/Pago_Pago matches Binary file Pacific/Samoa matches Binary file US/Aleutian matches Binary file US/Samoa matches -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org San-Francisco, CA USA --Chmouel
Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] GRUB not working with SCSI boot disk
Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Still not on cooker list at Thu Aug 24 04:31:55 BST 2000, so here's a FMY what is BST ? -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] GRUB not working with SCSI boot disk
Franco Silvestro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > mkbootdisk don't understand that symlink, I remove symlink boot.b and I cool, fixed :)
Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] GRUB not working with SCSI boot disk
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, you wrote: > Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > BTW, lilo-0.21.5-1mdk.i586.rpm on Cooker gives a nice menu, but it > > installs /boot/boot.b as a link to boot-menu.b, so drakboot can't make > > you a boot floppy - it c>an't open boot.b. "Progress means deterioation." > I don't understand what/who is wrong here. Are you talking about drakfloppy > ("Create a boot floppy") or really drakboot ("Configure LILO/GRUB") > > I don't see what can be failing... mkbootdisk don't understand that symlink, I remove symlink boot.b and I create a real boot-menu (cp /boot/boot-menu.b /boot/boot.b). In this way it works;o) Sorry, is not a new problem ... but I forget to report it ;o/ Good work ;o) -- - Franco Silvestro c/o CeSIA - Universita' degli Studi di Bologna mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: Re: [Cooker] GRUB not working with SCSI boot disk
Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Thanks Pixel, tried that. It's a GRUB bug. /usr/doc/grub-doc-0.5.94/BUGS: >- GRUB hangs up when accessing a disk via Adaptec AIC-7880 > SCSI-controller in LBA mode. It is unknown if this is due to GRUB or > the SCSI BIOS. For now, you need to disable the BIOS support for > INT 13 Extension (that is, you can't use the LBA mode). > This means there's no support for my Adaptec 2940U card unless I use a > tiny disk. All I get is the one liner: "stage 1". So it's back to lilo > for me. :( nice to know anyway > > BTW, lilo-0.21.5-1mdk.i586.rpm on Cooker gives a nice menu, but it > installs /boot/boot.b as a link to boot-menu.b, so drakboot can't make you > a boot floppy - it can't open boot.b. "Progress means deterioation." I don't understand what/who is wrong here. Are you talking about drakfloppy ("Create a boot floppy") or really drakboot ("Configure LILO/GRUB") I don't see what can be failing...
Fwd: Re: [Cooker] GRUB not working with SCSI boot disk
Still not on cooker list at Thu Aug 24 04:31:55 BST 2000, so here's a repost. Hope this doesn't create another darned duplicate. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [Cooker] GRUB not working with SCSI boot disk Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 00:14:45 +0100 From: Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Pixel wrote: > Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I quite liked GRUB, but since I got a new ATA66 disk and Promise > > controller, repartitioned and used my IBM SCSI disk to boot from, it > > doesn't work - all I get is the message `First stage install ...' > > > > LILO works fine. I've tried different versions of GRUB to no avail. > > can you try changing your /boot/grub/device.map, something like > > (hd0) /dev/sda > (hd1) /dev/hde > (hd2) /dev/hdg > (hd3) /dev/hdh > > or > > (hd0) /dev/hde > (hd1) /dev/hdg > (hd2) /dev/hdh > (hd3) /dev/sda Thanks Pixel, tried that. It's a GRUB bug. /usr/doc/grub-doc-0.5.94/BUGS: - GRUB hangs up when accessing a disk via Adaptec AIC-7880 SCSI-controller in LBA mode. It is unknown if this is due to GRUB or the SCSI BIOS. For now, you need to disable the BIOS support for INT 13 Extension (that is, you can't use the LBA mode). This means there's no support for my Adaptec 2940U card unless I use a tiny disk. All I get is the one liner: "stage 1". So it's back to lilo for me. BTW, lilo-0.21.5-1mdk.i586.rpm on Cooker gives a nice menu, but it installs /boot/boot.b as a link to boot-menu.b, so drakboot can't make you a boot floppy - it can't open boot.b. "Progress means deterioation." -- -- Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrexham, UK KDE - the professionals' choice -- --- -- -- Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrexham, UK KDE - the professionals' choice --
Re: [Cooker] GRUB not working with SCSI boot disk
Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --Boundary-=_XrJmOWFrxsjyBldbEFSArCBynEcd > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi cookers, > I quite liked GRUB, but since I got a new ATA66 disk and Promise > controller, repartitioned and used my IBM SCSI disk to boot from, it > doesn't work - all I get is the message `First stage install ...' > > LILO works fine. I've tried different versions of GRUB to no avail. > Any help appreciated. [...] (dmesg stuff) Wow!! What a killer machine!! :-) -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] GRUB not working with SCSI boot disk
Peter Ruskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I quite liked GRUB, but since I got a new ATA66 disk and Promise > controller, repartitioned and used my IBM SCSI disk to boot from, it > doesn't work - all I get is the message `First stage install ...' > > LILO works fine. I've tried different versions of GRUB to no avail. can you try changing your /boot/grub/device.map, something like (hd0) /dev/sda (hd1) /dev/hde (hd2) /dev/hdg (hd3) /dev/hdh or (hd0) /dev/hde (hd1) /dev/hdg (hd2) /dev/hdh (hd3) /dev/sda
Re: [Cooker] Grub
Didn't explain what I wanted. What I would like, is to have a bootable CD with a Grub menu. It then gives the option whether to continue to boot off the CD, or boot off the hard drive (Like the Windows 98/2000 CDs do...) it uses LILO and a second partion (lpt Zip by default) but the ZIPSlack floppy does that so i think if you did a Grub floppy and had a spare partion you could hack/clone the ZIPSlack floppy to do what you need to. It uses the root=! parameter for LILO.
Re: [Cooker] Grub
Alex Boag-Munroe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I would like, is to have a bootable CD with a Grub menu. It then gives > the option whether to continue to boot off the CD, or boot off the hard > drive (Like the Windows 98/2000 CDs do...) > > If I cannot do it with grub, does anyone know ANYTHING I can do it with? i don't know if you can do it with syslinux (what we use), but sure, you can do it with lilo or grub. caldera is using grub on its bootable cd...
RE: [Cooker] Grub
Sorry, Didn't explain what I wanted. What I would like, is to have a bootable CD with a Grub menu. It then gives the option whether to continue to boot off the CD, or boot off the hard drive (Like the Windows 98/2000 CDs do...) If I cannot do it with grub, does anyone know ANYTHING I can do it with? Help would be greatly appreciated Thanks Alex -Original Message- From: Pixel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 10 July 2000 3:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Grub Alex Boag-Munroe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know if it is possible to make Grub boot off of a CD? booting of a cd needs el torito. that is emulation of a floppy. see mkisofs for more.
Re: [Cooker] Grub
Alex Boag-Munroe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know if it is possible to make Grub boot off of a CD? booting of a cd needs el torito. that is emulation of a floppy. see mkisofs for more.
Re: [Cooker] grub 64 vs lilo 128
Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > >Would it be possible for you obtain and try the latest GRUB[1], without >> > >any Mandrake patches? That would help narrow down the problem a bit. >> >> >> could you also try going to grub's console (with 'c') >> and try command "displaymem" > >also, look at the /proc/cmdline booting with lilo and grub. > Here it is: Using the current cooker grub-0.5.94-9mdk, /proc/cmdline shows 'mem=66551K root=/dev/hda5' grub> displaymem EISA Memory BIOS Interface is present Address Map BIOS Interface is present Lower memory: 638K, Upper memory (to first chipset hole): 65527K Then a bunch of addresses... Using lilo-0.21.4.2-2mdk, /proc/cmdline gives me 'auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=305' and /proc/meminfo gives me a total available of 127852 kB. I built and installed grub v0.5.4.94 from gnu.org, but it gives me the same values. Strange and concerning if grub is the default Mandrake bootloader. For info, the system is a Dell Dimension XPS R400 with the last Dell BIOS. Cookerly, =-= kk1 (Following lines are not from me). -- Linux est libre, et vous ? Devenez @linuxstart.com gratuitement sur http://fr.linuxstart.com et suivez, au jour le jour, le fil de l'actualité Linux et Open Source avec ActuLinux http://www.actulinux.com
Re: [Cooker] grub 64 vs lilo 128
Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >Would it be possible for you obtain and try the latest GRUB[1], without > > >any Mandrake patches? That would help narrow down the problem a bit. > > > could you also try going to grub's console (with 'c') > and try command "displaymem" also, look at the /proc/cmdline booting with lilo and grub.
Re: [Cooker] grub 64 vs lilo 128
Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Would it be possible for you obtain and try the latest GRUB[1], without > >any Mandrake patches? That would help narrow down the problem a bit. could you also try going to grub's console (with 'c') and try command "displaymem"
Re: [Cooker] grub 64 vs lilo 128
Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Quel Qun wrote: >> >> Hi, >> Can anyone explain to me why the system boots with 128MB of RAM with lilo and only >64MB with grub? >> Everything seems to work fine when I specify mem=128m, but that's still strange. >> Mandrakely, > >(please understand this is a personal not official MandrakeSoft support >request) > Understood, no one expects support on cooker anyhow. >Would it be possible for you obtain and try the latest GRUB[1], without >any Mandrake patches? That would help narrow down the problem a bit. > Will try tomorrow asap (office desktop). Cheers, =-= kk1 (Following lines are not from me). -- Linux est libre, et vous ? Devenez @linuxstart.com gratuitement sur http://fr.linuxstart.com et suivez, au jour le jour, le fil de l'actualité Linux et Open Source avec ActuLinux http://www.actulinux.com
Re: [Cooker] GRUB
"David Foresman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is drakx going to go back to lilo at any point in the future? at the moment, it configures both. I'm playing with grub, so sometimes it ends up with grub sometimes with lilo. In expert, there'll be a choice between the 2. anyway, as both are configured, do: % lilo # to use lilo % sh /boot/grub/install.sh # to use grub cu Pixel.
Re: [Cooker] GRUB
type info grub after you have installed it... You also have a documentation directory in the grub package... /M On Wed, 22 Mar 2000, David Foresman wrote: > I quickly looked through the list archive but didn't find any informat. > > Is there anywhere to get information on how to setup grub? i went to thier web page, >and all they had was a doc. > > Is drakx going to go back to lilo at any point in the future? > > At the very least there should be an option to select Grub or LILO especially during >the expert install. > > > Thanks for a great distro. > -- _|_|_|_|_|_|_|_| _|_|_|_| _|_| _|_| _|_| _|_|_| _|_|_|_|_| _|_|_| _|_| _|_|_| _|_| _|_|_| _| _|_| _|_|_| _|_|_|_| --==** LIVETS VATTEN **==--
Re: [Cooker] GRUB
>I think it would be nice if you could include a LILO->GRUB conversion >script in the grub RPM. I started thinking about it, but nothing written yet :-( I believe the disk naming conversion could be quite tricky Other suggestions for grub : internationalisation and keyboard selection (at least at compile time) : should be useful for production use in future Mandrake release. I have my BIOS on partition 1, WinNT on partion >2, and Linux on partition 3, but the grub documentation keeps acting >like I need to have a floppy, or I can install to the MBR, but I don't >want to do that, because some mistake could overwrite the beginning of >the disk which would make it unrecoverable. In other words, I'd like a >little reassurace before I'm about to install grub :) > > May I suggest you build a grub floppy with ext2 filesystem on it, (and stage2 and menu.lst) so you can safely try all the features of grub. If you wish, I can send you an image of such a disk, you just need to edit menu.lst on it. Anyway, the safe way to install grub on an hard drive seems to do it from a floppy. >-- >Sincerely, > >David Walluck ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >
Re: [Cooker] GRUB
On 22 Dec 1999, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > "Hoyt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I have to learn how to count from zero? 8 ) > > well just because it's a different structure of linux. > > > Isn't it a little late to be working Chmouel? > > humm sound like i should go to sleep :), but well a lot of work to > finish before :\. Sleep is for the weak. > > Just out of curiosity, how is your first name pronounced? I see it > > taken in vain so frequently in these posts. > > in the latino or celitic mode ? it's hard by write. For info Chmouel > is the hebrew version of samuel. > it's a soft C -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
Re: [Cooker] GRUB
- Original Message - From: Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] GRUB > "Hoyt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Just out of curiosity, how is your first name pronounced? I see it > > taken in vain so frequently in these posts. > > in the latino or celitic mode ? it's hard by write. For info Chmouel > is the hebrew version of samuel. > I'll pass then . . I do better with Chinese than Hebrew. I play the piano in a Chinese restaurant on the weekends and it's nice to know what the wait staff is saying about me. 8) Best of luck with oxygen. Hoyt Hoyt
Re: [Cooker] GRUB
- Original Message - From: Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] GRUB > "Hoyt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > the hurd boot loader. handle nicely the >1024 cylinder boot via LBA > > It looks a little rough from what is mentioned on the web site. How difficult is >it to install? > > to learn how bsd partitions is structured. > I have to learn how to count from zero? 8 ) Isn't it a little late to be working Chmouel? Just out of curiosity, how is your first name pronounced? I see it taken in vain so frequently in these posts. Hoyt