Re: Jim Bell Trial: Second Day

2001-04-10 Thread Declan McCullagh


She wasn't a lawyer; your PR clone suspicion is correct.

She was not a technologist. Her function was only to testify that 
an IP address matched an account.

Bell's lawyer on cross-examination never raised the point that a message
posted to cpunx goes through multiple servers (including the majordomo
ones), all of which have the opportunity to add false headers to the
message.

-Declan


On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 10:30:25AM +0100, Ken Brown wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Second Day:  Jim Bell trial
 
 [...]
 
 
  The next witness was Hilda Wong Muramoto who is a subpoena manager for @Home
  Corporation.  In direct testimony she stated that Bell had a cable modem
  account, that the "DNS designation and sub-domain" as well as the IP address
  were hard-wired, and that the account did not cover dial-up connections.
   She said that the IP address was 24.16.209.166 and that the DNS number
  was C1099371-A.  The DNS name that was captured in the e-mail that Bell
  allegedly sent to cypherpunks was encrv1.wa.home.com.  She claimed that
  those "numbers" could not appear on anyone else's e-mail.
 
 "subpoena manager"? What in Tacoma is a "subpoena manager"? Do subpoenas
 need managing? 
 
 It sounds like they employ someone just to get sued.  Presumably that
 means she is a PR clone or a lawyer. Why should a PR type know anything
 about DNS  SMTP, any more than I (or Choate)  should be an expert on
 the law?
 
 If I was a grumpy judge and a company sent me a "subpoena manager" I
 would be very tempted to send them right back  get someone who knew
 what they are talking about.
 
 Ken
 




Re: Jim Bell Trial: Second Day

2001-04-06 Thread Ken Brown

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Second Day:  Jim Bell trial

[...]


 The next witness was Hilda Wong Muramoto who is a subpoena manager for @Home
 Corporation.  In direct testimony she stated that Bell had a cable modem
 account, that the "DNS designation and sub-domain" as well as the IP address
 were hard-wired, and that the account did not cover dial-up connections.
  She said that the IP address was 24.16.209.166 and that the DNS number
 was C1099371-A.  The DNS name that was captured in the e-mail that Bell
 allegedly sent to cypherpunks was encrv1.wa.home.com.  She claimed that
 those "numbers" could not appear on anyone else's e-mail.

"subpoena manager"? What in Tacoma is a "subpoena manager"? Do subpoenas
need managing? 

It sounds like they employ someone just to get sued.  Presumably that
means she is a PR clone or a lawyer. Why should a PR type know anything
about DNS  SMTP, any more than I (or Choate)  should be an expert on
the law?

If I was a grumpy judge and a company sent me a "subpoena manager" I
would be very tempted to send them right back  get someone who knew
what they are talking about.

Ken