[css-d] substitute font for Myriad Pro

2013-03-22 Thread Hull, Lauribeth
The district I work for has a new logo and the graphic artist has Myriad Pro as 
the supporting font. I know I need to have some back-up fonts in my css. I have 
found the following options in researching online.



Myriad Pro, Lucida Sans, Segoe UI, Calibri, sans serif



Myriad Pro, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif



Myriad Pro,  Trebuchet MS, Arial, Sans-Serif



Do any of you typofiles have a preference or have some other suggestions.


LauriBeth Hull
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Everett Public Schools
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Re: [css-d] substitute font for Myriad Pro

2013-03-22 Thread David Laakso
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Hull, Lauribeth lh...@everettsd.org wrote:
 The district I work for has a new logo and the graphic artist has Myriad Pro 
 as the supporting font. I know I need to have some back-up fonts in my css. I 
 have found the following options in researching online.

 Do any of you ... have a preference or have some other suggestions.


 LauriBeth Hull


 {font-family: 'MyriadPro', Lucida Grande, Lucida Sans
Unicode, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif} ???

Best,
David Laakso

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Re: [css-d] substitute font for Myriad Pro

2013-03-22 Thread Laura Valentino
 On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Hull, Lauribeth lh...@everettsd.org
 wrote:
  The district I work for has a new logo and the graphic artist has Myriad
 Pro as the supporting font. I know I need to have some back-up fonts in my
 css. I have found the following options in researching online.

  Do any of you ... have a preference or have some other suggestions.


I personally find Segoe UI to be the closest match in look and feel to
Myriad Pro, but it might not be widely cross-platform so you'll need to
list others. Tahoma, Trebuchet and Verdana are some others. The way I see
it, Helvetica and Arial are a little bit minimalistic and plain whereas
these others have a rounder, friendlier feel.

Laura
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Re: [css-d] substitute font for Myriad Pro

2013-03-22 Thread Alnisa Allgood
I've used these font stacks with Myriad Pro before

   - font-family: Myriad Pro, Lucida Sans, Segoe UI, Calibri, sans serif;
   - font-family: Myriad Pro, Arial, Helvetica, Tahoma, sans-serif;
   - font-family: Myriad Pro, Gill Sans, Gill Sans MT, Calibri,
   sans-serif;
   - font-family: MyriadProLightCondensed, Gill Sans, Lucida Grande,
   DejaVu Sans Condensed, Arial, sans-serif;

My favorite being the last, but the most used variation being #2. The last
produced some great results for us when testing across OS, and admittedly,
TypeKit was involved, so we weren't to worried about substitutes being
called.

The second is just the easiest to type, so we use frequently. But I do like
having Calibri as a potential substitute.






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e. aln...@nonprofit-tech.org


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On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:24 AM, David Laakso laakso.davi...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Hull, Lauribeth lh...@everettsd.org
 wrote:
  The district I work for has a new logo and the graphic artist has Myriad
 Pro as the supporting font. I know I need to have some back-up fonts in my
 css. I have found the following options in researching online.

  Do any of you ... have a preference or have some other suggestions.


  LauriBeth Hull


  {font-family: 'MyriadPro', Lucida Grande, Lucida Sans
 Unicode, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif} ???

 Best,
 David Laakso

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Re: [css-d] substitute font for Myriad Pro

2013-03-22 Thread Markus Ernst

Am 22.03.2013 18:33 schrieb Alnisa Allgood:

- font-family: Myriad Pro, Gill Sans, Gill Sans MT, Calibri,
sans-serif;
- font-family: MyriadProLightCondensed, Gill Sans, Lucida Grande,
DejaVu Sans Condensed, Arial, sans-serif;



On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:24 AM, David Laakso laakso.davi...@gmail.comwrote:

 {font-family: 'MyriadPro', Lucida Grande, Lucida Sans
Unicode, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif} ???


Resp. Gill Sans, Gill Sans MT and Helvetica Neue: Are those delivered as 
system fonts with any OS? Otherwise, I would recommend not to use them. 
For websites, I'd only use fonts that are either widely supported system 
fonts or delivered via @font-face.


Graphic designers and other people who work in the media business, such 
as myself, often have old PostScript Type 1 versions of typefaces like 
Helvetica Neue and Gill Sans installed. They are ok for print, but have 
awful screen appearances. Thus, a website using those fonts may look bad 
on my computer.

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Re: [css-d] substitute font for Myriad Pro

2013-03-22 Thread David Laakso
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch wrote:

 Graphic designers and other people who work in the media business, such as
 myself, often have old PostScript Type 1 versions of typefaces like
 Helvetica Neue and Gill Sans installed. They are ok for print, but have
 awful screen appearances. Thus, a website using those fonts may look bad on
 my computer.

Perhaps print media designers ought  to keep their  old PostScript
Type 1 versions of typefaces installed on another machine?

Best,
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Re: [css-d] substitute font for Myriad Pro

2013-03-22 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh

Le 23 mars 2013 à 03:27, Markus Ernst derer...@gmx.ch a écrit :

 Am 22.03.2013 18:33 schrieb Alnisa Allgood:
- font-family: Myriad Pro, Gill Sans, Gill Sans MT, Calibri,
sans-serif;
- font-family: MyriadProLightCondensed, Gill Sans, Lucida Grande,
DejaVu Sans Condensed, Arial, sans-serif;
 
 On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:24 AM, David Laakso 
 laakso.davi...@gmail.comwrote:
  {font-family: 'MyriadPro', Lucida Grande, Lucida Sans
 Unicode, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif} ???
 
 Resp. Gill Sans, Gill Sans MT and Helvetica Neue: Are those delivered as 
 system fonts with any OS? Otherwise, I would recommend not to use them. For 
 websites, I'd only use fonts that are either widely supported system fonts or 
 delivered via @font-face.

FWIW, Helvetica Neue has been installed on OS X since the very first beta 
release more than 10 years ago. It is the default system font on iOS. Gill Sans 
is also installed on OS X. Gill Sans MT appears to be installed on Windows XP 
(it is available on my very default winXP vm). But it is not listed by 
Microsoft as installed on Windows 7 [1].

Beyond that, it is more and more difficult to have a commonly installed font 
stack across platforms nowadays. No Verdana for you on Android based devices 
(which is one of the good points of the platform). I've been told that Android 
powered phones made by Japanese manufactures don't ship with the Droid fonts (a 
default on Android for a long time). Etc.

Bottom line, if a particular typography look is important to your website, use 
@font-face (and hope that all targeted platforms support it). Otherwise, just a 
'font-family: sans-serif' is the safest path. But make sure you don't rely on 
the metrics of a particular font-family. That is: make sure your layout has 
enough breathing room to allow for different text flow stemming from the used 
font.

[1] http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/product.aspx?pid=161

PS: Myriad Pro is available on all major font-hosting services. Gill Sans and 
Gill Sans MT may make for acceptable substitutes, as does Tahoma eventually. 
But Lucida Grande (or the Lucida Sans ones), Helvetica and clones (Arial,…) are 
all very different.

Philippe
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Re: [css-d] substitute font for Myriad Pro

2013-03-22 Thread Felix Miata

On 2013-03-22 19:27 (GMT+0100) Markus Ernst composed:


Graphic designers and other people who work in the media business, such
as myself, often have old PostScript Type 1 versions of typefaces like
Helvetica Neue and Gill Sans installed. They are ok for print, but have
awful screen appearances.


When screen density is high enough, probably no fonts look awful except in 
the eyes of particular beholders. Many fonts were awful in the bad old days 
last century, but screen densities have been creeping up for a long time, and 
look to continue in that direction for some time, making the fault of bad 
looking fonts lie more often with the user's choice of equipment than with 
the designer's font selection.

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