Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Sir, I really do not know what he situation is, BUT There really is no reason to argue a case with personal attacks. Please be civil in your discourse. Om k List Owner In a message dated 3/11/00 5:30:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >J2, in your case I`ll give up being polite. Your too stupid to respond >too. > >http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture >http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Ouch! J2 Jeff Sandlin wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > J2, in your case I`ll give up being polite. Your too stupid to respond > too. > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- J2, in your case I`ll give up being polite. Your too stupid to respond too. http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- This is an incoherent message. What are you talking about? J2 == Jeff Sandlin wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > That`s ridiculous. It should be called the hypothesis of evolution at > best. > > http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture > http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- That`s ridiculous. It should be called the hypothesis of evolution at best. http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- - Original Message - From: "beltek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > # SPACE BLANKETS MAY AID WACO INVESTIGATORS. ... ... > > Branch Davidian seige. http://CNN.com/2000/US/03/11/waco.probe/ > > : Does your conspiracy successfully delay nvestigations/prosecutions/ > > retributions for as long as possible? Have you delayed justice lately? > > Other than the possibility (probability) of government lying, why does > anyone care? Some people are astonished/disconcerted that powerful people/entities aren't always [or often] truthful. Of course, I don't remember seeing anything in the US or Calif constitutions requiring honesty/trughfulness of govt operatives. Yes, they may be required to swear [or affirm] to "faithfully execute" their office. But the populace always seems to like having ruthless, devious SOBs "faithfully executing" whatever they can/want/will, in order to get the job done. The propriety of any specific method of "execution" is always a political matter. > Here we had a psychotic nut case running around claiming to be the > Messiah and amassing all sorts of Messianic weapons, a bunch of > idiots willing to follow this self proclaimed Messiah and their very > unfortunate children - all of whom died but non of which needed to. Messiah means "annointed one." Messiahs are annointed with oil. Oil is flammable. Messiahs burn. Those around them burn. The logic is irrefutable. Follow a messiah - get crispy-crittered. Yow. > There are far more kinder, gentler self-proclaimed Messiahs around > whom those who wish to follow such people could do so, or even more > interesting ways to go - like the mass suicide cults. Who deserve all the encouragement they can get, IMHO. But I digress. > Isn't this just evolution in action? Social evolution, maybe. Remember that cognition/intelligence is only about 30% inheritable -- so, just because stupid people may die before they can breed, doesn't mean that following generations will be any more intelligent. And just because dummies breed, DOESN'T mean that their kids will necessarily be as stupid as they. > And while we are on the topic (which we weren't), evolution is not > a theory. It is a proven fact. The term "Theory of Evolution" is > used by some to justify their own beliefs. Those prattling about "theory" vs fact should attend to the definition of "scientific theory" - "a workable explanation supported by the preponderence of data." A useful theory is falsifiable and testable - notions of creationism aren't. > Not a kinder, gentler person. We've known that for a LONG time, M.A.!! http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday # 1
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Do Martian bachelors [gay/straight/neutral/other] need love too? > >Can TM help? > > Yes, TM is good for all aliens, regardless of sexual preferences. > Its effect on humanoids is less convincing though, if judged by > the flamewar-level at alt.meditation.transcendental. But then > again, all humanoids should be caught and put down the blender. I tried Transcendental Mastication once, but I found that I'd bitten off more than I could chew. Perhaps I should have run it through the blender first. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- > # FINALLY, AN EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION DEDICATED TO CRITICAL THINKING. The > Center for Inquiry Institute, where students study pragmatism, critical > inquiry, psychology of belief, other courses aimed at making them critical > thinkers. All institutions of higher learning should offer courses like > this. http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=16305 > > : Would universal critical thinking mark the doom of religion, creationism, > advertising? What do you believe? Are you a sucker, an easy mark, a target? Hah! Don't you believe it! I've been to The Center for Inquiry. It is an organized arm of CSIOP...full of zealots. It is like the Kingdom Hall of atheists. I went to their Halloween thing... All they did was pass out literature on superstitions, force people to walk under ladders and break mirrors. Kind of felt like some kind of encounter therapy group...minus the pillows, ya know? I expect next they will be going door to door on Saturday mornings selling subscriptions to their magazine, The Skeptical Inquirer, preaching the coming of the Darwinian kingdom... You might be interested to know that the head of this little group at SUNY Buffalo is the same guy who wrote the Humanist Manifesto. I guess he's a Trotsky-wanna-be. To his chagrin, he's a philosophy professor there. Need I say more? These guys will go to any length to get somebody to take their courses and retain tenure... DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #1]
-Caveat Lector- "ric carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > : Shouldn't ancient Napier's Bones & logarithms be on display here too? All right--please tell me how you can display a logarithm??? I have a 1920's-vintage *book* of logarithms that belonged to my electrical-engineer grandfather, which might be of interest...but it's easier to put salt on the tail of a lepton than to display "a" logarithm! BTW, my grandfather had a *cylindrical* sliderule made about 1890. It's now on permanent loan to a collector of scientific instruments. I still have my father's *circular* sliderule. = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: DougKeachie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ric carter wrote: > > > # Scientists Hunt for Living Dinosaur in Africa - This dinosaur site > > no Jurassic lark. ... http://www.news.com.au/world/4133941.htm > > > > : What would you do with a bronto if you found one? Would you nurture > > it, broil it, sell it, convert it, worship it, label it, implant it, > > Ride it down the freeway, I'll bet I wouldn't have to pay tolls on the > Golden Gate Bridge ! The Highway Patrol would probably consider this action to be part of another ACT UP or TAKE BACK THE STREETS demonstration, the Political Enforcement cops would be called up in all their jack-booted brutality, and the poor bronto would be clubbed into the pavement. So would you. Is your Police Brutalization Insurance paid up? If not, stay at home. > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > > > # Extending Your Life Through Genetics. Imagine taking a drug that > > offers the promise of allowing you to live to be 180 " without suf- > > fering such crippling disabilities as arthritis or fatigue. ... > > applicable to humans. http://www.jeffrense.com/ufo3/extend.htm > > > > : How long would you like to live? Is 180 years enough? What would you > > do with all that time? Would you start saving for your old age sooner? > > And just why do you think I bought this chunk of land ? The schist will > really hit the fan if such a thing happens. Where will we put everybody ? > Will youngsters view offing oldsters as a biological necessity ? It's well know that immortality has already been suppressed because of the disruptions that would ensue to Social Security, Veterans Admin, and the labor supply. Immortality will destroy the current economic system of the Western world; hits, such as this leaked 'story', are part of a disinformation campaign aimed at controlling rebellious segments of the population by offering them "pie in the sky,", same as any religion offering redemption/reincarnation. It's just a ploy. > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > > > # Researchers Involved In Novel Universe Creation Experiment. > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/06/990610073905.htm > > > > : Would you like to create one or more universes? Which are your > > favorites? > > I donno, but if God is wacking one out every 7 days, we are about 6,000 > universes away from his direct attention. Assuming biblical chronology to be correct, with one universe created per week, then we'd actually be more like (52 weeks) * (6000+ years) = 312000+ universes away from {YHWH}. Are the rules the same in each of these? Do these universes intersect? All, or just some? Where? Is our current universe the first of a series; midway in that series; at the end of a series; the product of nonsequential creation; none of the above? Does each new universe spawn a new set of deities? Do/can said deities agree on anything? How do they resolve their disputes? Are we just pawns in theological wars? Can we escape? > BTW, if he (HE) can go, " zap your pregnant," why'd he stop at just one ? Lazy. A hard-working creator wouldn't allow appendicitis either. Rev. Ric "infallible is my middle name" Carter, ULC DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #1]
-Caveat Lector- "ric carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > # VISION OF DIANA RESCUES KOSOVO'S WAR ORPHANS. (RMNews) "The vision of > Diana, which is appearing in Albania, is just the beginning. Soon, the Diana > sightings will be followed by messages from Diana. Then the organization of > the Church of Diana will begin world wide. Within a few short years, the > Cult of Diana will have gained a large following world wide." Get it at: > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Cafe/5840/ShapeShiftingReptilians.txt > > : Will visions of Diana keep you up past the dawn? Who's your fave goddess? > What's She wear, if anything? Has She a navel? Does She turn you into deer? I am flabbergasted. The question never occurred to me. Amazing. DOES Lady Diana have a navel? What about the Virgin Mary? Or (whisper it softly) did *Elvis* have a navel? After all, he's already got his own religion, Presleyterianism... Bob "Don't step on my blue suede shoes" = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om