Re: Can't connect with XDMCP - Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
Hi, change your Login credentials to root with the su utility and add your xhost X-Terminaserver to your access list should work - Original Message - From: Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cygwin xfree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Can't connect with XDMCP - Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key Alexander, Zitat von Alexander Gottwald [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have you tried the -from yourhost parameter? The 0.0.0.0 seems like Xwin can't find the correct interface and uses an uncofigured one (maybe dialup) No, I haven't tried -from. I just now did, and with -from, I can connect. Do I understand you right? It's the fault of XWin that it sends the 0.0.0.0 IP? Hmm... [c:\programme\jedit 4.1pre6]ipconfig /all Windows-IP-Konfiguration Hostname. . . . . . . . . . . . . : D8RJRJ0J Primäres DNS-Suffix . . . . . . . : Knotentyp . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP-Routing aktiviert. . . . . . . : Nein WINS-Proxy aktiviert. . . . . . . : Nein Ethernetadapter LAN-Verbindung: Medienstatus. . . . . . . . . . . : Es besteht keine Verbindung Beschreibung. . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible) Physikalische Adresse . . . . . . : 00-08-74-3E-FD-E2 Ethernetadapter LAN-Verbindung 2: Verbindungsspezifisches DNS-Suffix: wup.de.delphiauto.com Beschreibung. . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible) #2 Physikalische Adresse . . . . . . : 00-B0-D0-0C-DF-B5 DHCP aktiviert. . . . . . . . . . : Ja Autokonfiguration aktiviert . . . : Ja IP-Adresse. . . . . . . . . . . . : 204.104.237.188 Subnetzmaske. . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Standardgateway . . . . . . . . . : 204.104.237.250 DHCP-Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 204.104.237.181 DNS-Server. . . . . . . . . . . . : 205.191.7.228 192.85.104.90 Lease erhalten. . . . . . . . . . : Mittwoch, 27. November 2002 07:58:21 Lease läuft ab. . . . . . . . . . : Donnerstag, 28. November 20 02 07:58:21 As you can see, I've got two NICs. The 1st Ethernetadapter LAN-Verbindung is the built-in NIC in my notebook. The 2nd Ethernetadapter LAN-Verbindung 2 is the one from my docking station. That might also explain, why the Windows NT PC is able to connect w/o -from. It's a normal desktop PC and has got only one NIC. Thanks! Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (en) Homepage: http://www.iso-top.de | Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iso-top.de - Die günstige Art an Linux Distributionen zu kommen -- - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: X11 and Heavy loadbalancing?
I *think* I understand what Jack is trying to do. The normal term for what he is attempting is host integration. This is where host-based applications are integrated into web-based applications. The most common example of this is the IBM product Host On Demand. The obvious way to do host integration with X Windows is to use the same approach as HOD. Use a java applet implementation of X (WeirdX) and place the applet in a web page. This approach has the same problem as HOD - a very heavy applet download. PapaFox Hmm, I think the Enduser should not use an Applet to use X-via Web. A More efficient Way is an normal Java Desktop-Application that can be autoupdated via the Webstartfeature (in JDK 1.4.0 Standandard allready involved) The original Projectplan was based on my Idea, to construct up an easy to use Free-Software CrossPlatform alternative against the commercial CITRIX / MS-Windows Terminalserver dominated Environment for Endcustomers with the Security of SSH and Highavaiability on Serverside (Disk I/O, Logon-Speed, Failoverc, Enterprisefeatures) On my Ressearche i have found: 1.An Applicationserver such as (commercial) Oracle 9iAS or JBoss (free) (J2EE 1.2-Compliant) brings up an scalable faulttolerant, scalable, highavaiabil Framework for Servercontainers. (Such as E-Mail, HTTP, SOAP, SMTP, POP3, Faxserver, X11, Filerserver and so on) 2. The ORACLE J2EE compliant Applicationserver has implemented a lot of this Features (called as CollaborationSuite) and all Servercontainers like E-mail server can be simply checked into the runnign AppServer (for Example: java -jar ./myOnwnSMTPServer.jar) (it detects and installs the new J2EE Container automatically, by the Path of an XML-Installdefinitionfile) 3. The J2EE-Appserver Certificationprocess at SUN Microsystems restrict propritary Extensions to an J2EE Appllicationservers to enforce compatibility to the Java Enterprise Standard (J2EE ServerContainers can also run on JBoss (the OpenSource Applicationserver) 4. Java is Platform Independant and has rolebased Security Conecepts, it is working on every Environment, all J2EE ServerContainers can use this Features, the only things to do is, writing, code for the Serverside Support of XFree to Support Java X-Clients like Weired. 5. An other Critical Position is the Disk I/O-Traffic and the RAM usage by every User thadt runs Hugh Applications on Serverside like OpenOffice, WINE and so on. (ps: i know thadt the Displayresults is only worked out by the X-Clients, ok?) 6. To solve the Problem for Disk I/O and RAM Usage, a Databasedrivven Filesystem is a Powerfull choice (like the ORACLE Internetfilesystems IFS). (Note: Microsoft implements MS-SQL-Serverfeatures in to the Windows NTFS6-Filesystem, but Oracle has this Feature over 2 Years ago on the Market and has spend its Sourcecode to the OpenSource Comunity under the Terms of the GPL) Ok, it is a big Project and a lot of Work to implement/configure a more advanced Solution as Microsoft/Citrix-Metaframe, but a great Challenge. Greetings from Germany, Jack
Re: X11 and Heavy loadbalancing?
- Original Message - From: Papa Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 2:53 AM Subject: Re: X11 and Heavy loadbalancing? Hi, I *think* I understand what [EMAIL PROTECTED] is trying to do. The normal term for what he is attempting is host integration. This is where host-based applications are integrated into web-based applications. The most common example of this is the IBM product Host On Demand. The obvious way to do host integration with X Windows is to use the same approach as HOD. Use a java applet implementation of X (WeirdX) and place the applet in a web page. This approach has the same problem as HOD - a very heavy applet download. PapaFox - Original Message - From: Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:24 AM Subject: Re: X11 and Heavy loadbalancing? Hi, Since the native GUI model for Java programs running on Unix and Linux hosts is X11, any and all Java GUI applications running on such hosts are inherently able to have their human user interaction take place on a separate host (or X terminal) from the host on which they execute. Likewise, multiple application clients (in the X sense of client--an application that wants to interact with a user via keyboard, moust and raster display) can share a single server (again, in the X sense--i.e., user interaction hardware). This should make it possible to handle migration or load balancing of the Java application while the user remains at a single workstation. So, any Java software with an AWT or Swing GUI when running on a Unix platform with X support (all of them except MacOS X, I believe) should be able to do what I think you're contemplating. Now usually one does not put conventional Java GUIs on J2EE applications (to my limited knowledge), but I doubt there's any technical reason why it could not be done. Is this at all an answer to your question? Randall Schulz Mountain View, CA USA At 02:14 2002-11-15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, At my Connectiontoolprojekt (Win-GUI-Client for Cygwin) i have think by my self whats happend if a heavy load Situation is comming up and How can it be solved? Is there an Way to Make XFree scalable or is there an J2EE based Container for a Free XFree avaiable thadt can be integrated as Part of a Java Serverapplication- Cluster such as ORACLE 9iAS Appserver Modul? (Oracle self has implemented an E-Mailserver, na Fileserver, an Faxserver, LDAP and so thadt resides in the Applicationserver Middlewarelayer, thadt can be empowered by an Oracle Realapplication Cluster thadt Spans over the Network to other Machines they are Member of the Cluster) If no Project is launched at this Time then my X.NET Projekt at Sourceforge will by Upgraded to this Projektfeature. http://sourceforge.net/projects/ibsxnet/ Greetings Randy
Is there an Way to Cluster (Loadbalance) X11 Free86?
Hi all, At my Connectiontoolprojekt (Win-GUI-Client for Cygwin) i have think by my self whats happend if a heavy load Situation is comming up and How can it be solved? Is there an Way to Make XFree scalable or is there an J2EE based Container for a Free XFree avaiable thadt can be integrated as Part of a Java Serverapplication- Cluster such as ORACLE 9iAS Appserver Modul? (Oracle self has implemented an E-Mailserver, na Fileserver, an Faxserver, LDAP and so thadt resides in the Applicationserver Middlewarelayer, thadt can be empowered by an Oracle Realapplication Cluster thadt Spans over the Network to other Machines they are Member of the Cluster) If no Project is launched at this Time then my X.NET Projekt at Sourceforge will by Upgraded to this Projektfeature. http://sourceforge.net/projects/ibsxnet/ Greetings
Re: X11 and Heavy loadbalancing?
I don't understand what you want to do. The XServer is bound to a output device. So there is no way to let a cluster do the work for it. Ok i try it more detailed again to describe: An J2EE (Java) implemented Applicationserver act as an centralized Server instance for Java writen Applications. The main Benefit of an J2EE conform Applicationserver is, to write code in Java as an non-visual Programm, thadt can on the fly integrated into the running Appserver to add an Feature. Typical Serverdriven Applications such as SMTP, POP, IMAP4, Telnet, Fileservice or waht ever) without the needs to implement first an TCP-Server Socket to host the Next Layer (the Serviceprotocol such as HTTP). The Only things to do is to implement the Serviceprotocol such as RFC 1945 HTTP 1.0. The XClients work over network. So there is no problem with spreading them on a cluster. Loadbalancing, Scalability, Avaiability is only a Task of the Appserver, and its Environment (in an Oracle Realapplicationcluster the AppServer can be connected to other AppServers to share its Performance ressouces to the involved System automatically and takes care for Failover Situations) For Example: Oracle has implement an E-Mailserver as an J2EE Container for the Oracle AppServer. If you have 2x Machines the Power aof Your E-mailsystems automatically scales up the Performance (while Sharing Client Tasks like MS-Outlook) My simple Questions is: Is there an Java based (EJB) X11R6 J2EE 1.2 / 1.3 Servercontainer Software released thadt can act as Part of an J2EE Applicationserver to act as an X11-Server? If you want to handle a lot of workstations with few compute servers, you can use the -broadcast to select the first answering compute server instead of selecting one with -query. The first responding is likely to have a low load. I think the Java Part is a little bit more easly to manage for setting up an Userfriendly and Crossplatform compliant System thadt runs anywhere without Bash or other Shell/Terminalconsoles (Just like Hit Run and better and Costsaver as an Propritary Windows based CITRIX Metaframeterminalserver) License GPL: Any Questions? Greetings from Freiburg, Germany
Re: X11 and Heavy loadbalancing?
Yup, I am equally confused. I am realy sorry Keep in mind that the X Server is ``serving'' your display, mouse, and keyboard hardware to applications that would like to utilize them. A ``client'' of your X Server is utilizing the display, mouse, and keyboard on the X Server by drawing a window and accepting user input via the mouse and keyboard. Ok, my Syntax for my Request is an little bit urly wurly. (I know thadt the Client has the hardest Job on a X-Session, but it was no clear to me how much is the X-Server involved at this Time) Alexander is right: clustering the X Server makes absolutely no sense. How can you server multiple instances of your display, mouse, and keyboard? Why would you want to? The I/O Traffic producing by the Apps on X-Serverside (Harddisk access to the Partitions) I assume thadt a lot of Officeuser thadt would connect to the X-Server, slow down the Machine. With Oracle IFS, (Fileservermodule in the AppServer) the Filesystemoperations would be redirect to the Databasesystem (more and faster then ext2/ext3 or Raiser) while using the Databaseengine to lookup for the File. The Idea: Layer 1: The Oracle 9i R2 J2EE Applicationserver (Internetfilesystem - IFS-Module) managing the in-comming Filerequests and handles, takes care vor Failoversituations and delegating Requests to other RealApplication Cluster. Layer 2: The Oracle 9i R2 Databasesystem handle the IFS-Fileobjects and put it into its Tablepsaces (Databasefiles and its Pratitions) as an Datarecord (BLOB) Next Questions: Ist there an JAVA (or J2EE) Implementation of an X11 Server avaiable thadt can be used for studying? Is it heavy to implement the Programmlgoic (Functional?) if C/C++ to Java Translation is necesarry? Thanks
Handling XWin.exe with Namedpipes for IPC with und generated Windows Program (Win-32 PE .EXE)
Hi, Is there an Difference between the XWin.exe (or any other Cygwin compiled Binaries) and MS Visual C/C++ oder Borland C Executables? I experimenting the handling of XWin.exe vCommandline Arguments via Namedpipes but on Access to the Process my MS C or Borland C Programm is teminating with a Access Violation (Windows Programms like ping.exe works fine?) Is there an Problem to handle Cygwin binaries via Named Pipes from normal Windows 32 Portable Excutable? Greetings
Re: Cygwin Remote: Want to implement a Citrix Metaframe alternative
Hi all http://sourceforge.net/projects/ibsxnet/ Ok, the First Release of this Project (ICA Citrix Metaframe altenative Client for X11 with Gygwin) is released. This Project is published under the GPL (is this ok but the Project need Cygwin Binaries?) How does it works: The Logon Client looks like an little Win32 GUI App (Look Feel) It connect via an SSH2 connection to the LINUX X11-Server (in my Case Debian 3.0) to an an OpenBSD SSH Server and authenticates with an Users thadts must be present on the Linux System (such as root or an other User) On the login to the Linux System the bash_profile Batshscript was calling always a x11netini.sh Script thad catch an Commandlineargument (xnet100_hook). If the Hook is 100 then it Startup the KDE-Desktop startkde Properties: An Tabbed Register Dialog is implemented for some User defiened Actions, but it is Password protected (password is: qrzx) Bad things: This is NOT a Full funtional Version 1.0.0 and the UI Layout is in German Lang and the Sourcecode is not yet added this Time) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thomas Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:53 AM Subject: Re: Cygwin Remote: Want to implement a Citrix Metaframe alternative Hi all, The Implementation of my Cygwin Logon Programm works fine, but the Workarraound with SAMBA (Singlesign on is not the real Deal) has any One an Idea? I want to try an Implementaton of SSH2 Protokoll to my Client to make the Authentication to my X-Server (via SSH witout the Cygwin Bash) I dont want (like commercial StarWin implementation use th insecure XPDM Protocol. Note: I tryin to register my Project on Sourceforge.org to make it common avaiable under the GPL. (searchname: xnet) On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 8:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have handled the Problem with ssh-keygen -t dsa to bake up an Key-pair and distribute it to the X-Server and Cygwin Client. Do these keys have passphrases? If yes, then how is it different to asking for a password. If no, then how have you made the system secure? I am interested in the development of this idea, but would be very concerned about the use of passphrase-less keys. Rasjid.
Re: Technical Qquery
Sumeet, Yes, there are two ways that you can use Cygwin/XFree86 to display applications from your HP-UX server: Ok, then my Logon Client is working on HP-UX , fine Note The X.NET Project can be found under http://sourceforge.net/projects/ibsxnet/ 1) Remote sessions via XDMCP (there is an additional load placed on your server for each XDMCP session that is open). This option allows you to get a complete GUI just as if you were on the console of the HP-UX machine: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-session.html 2) You can display individual client applications in Cygwin/XFree86 from your HP-UX machine using either telnet or ssh with X11 forwarding: http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/ug/using-remote-apps.html Yes, Cygwin/XFree86 is free to use and no additional software is required. Specifically, Cygwin is free software and XFree86 is open source, both of which mean that the source code is available for free and you are free to use it. Harold Sumeet wrote: Hi, I am J Sumeet working as a Product Engineer for HCL Infosystems Ltd. I have a few queries regarding this software : 1. Whether it will be able to bring the HP-UX Server GUI on our Windows Desktop ? 2. Whether it is a freeware which doesn't require any other additional software ? Best Regards, Sumeet J PEG HCL Infosystems Ltd. INDIA
Re: Technical Qquery
Hi Sumeet J, I am not sure what Kind of X11-Protocoll HP-UX (how Vers?) support. My Implementation is written in Borland Delphi6 / Kylix3 (OpenEdition) but still an Alpha Prototype. Features of the Windowsclient: - X11 Remote Connections via (buildt in) OpenSSH (V2) - Tabbedconfiguration Dialog for set up the X11-Environment. - Local Printing Sound Support for X11-Connections - Automatic Distribution via Logonscript (bundling needed Cygwin Binaries) Requirements: - Windows 9.x NT.x - Some Cygwin Packages - TCP/IP-Networkconnections I am J Sumeet working as a Product Engineer for HCL Infosystems Ltd. I have a few queries regarding this software : 1. Whether it will be able to bring the HP-UX Server GUI on our Windows Desktop ? 2. Whether it is a freeware which doesn't require any other additional software ? Best Regards, Sumeet J PEG HCL Infosystems Ltd. INDIA
