Re: complaints about systemd
What I find most frustrating of all is that there are LOTS of valid concerns for the use of systemd but that it is coming out at the point of implementation. I am sure I am a bit out of the loop with with daily tasks etc but this kinda seems like it came out of nowhere destined for integration without even a simple PROS and CONS being done in it's design phase. The CONCEPT of systemd sounds great but the implementation/design has more easy to notice holes that it makes you wonder what else has been overlooked with it... Would personally like to express a me too to all the comments on this thread so far as they sum up my concerns of simplicity, transparency and accessibility in regards to system start up and logging. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Tomasz Kundera tnkund...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to say me too as the shortest opinion. Dealing with local networks it is absolutely not important how much time the boot takes. Most machines works all the time. During maintenance reboots I can wait a few seconds more. But the complete lack of simplicity and transparency is horrible. Binary logs are horrible, too. Logs are mostly needed when some troubles arises. In that situation they should be accessible as easy and fast as possible. Often there will be no possibility to start a dedicated binary log analyzer. You need only more and sed to deal with text logs. systemd with no possibility to stay with SystemV is a horrible mistake. On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Ray Andrews rayandr...@eastlink.ca wrote: On 10/08/2014 12:39 PM, ael wrote: On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 03:32:58PM +0200, Michael wrote: The new system reduces some complexity on one side while introducing much more on the other. The whole design so far as I can see lacks the simplicity and transparency that the greatest minds in computer science advocate. That seems to be confirmed in that systemd is more or less permanently broken, ... I don't know enough to weigh in on this, but I spent the morning researching the subject and it does seem like this is no small issue. I myself am deeply troubled by what I read, it seems that cleverness has replaced level-headedness, wiz-bang technology has replaced simplicity and transparency, and featureitis has replaced stability. I hope this gets sorted out. Me, I want my computer to boot reliably, and I wouldn't care even if it did take 2 seconds longer, and I want to be able to understand and even edit how it works. But that's just me. at least on all my machines. It takes *far longer* to boot up and particularly shutdown than ever the old init system did. I have given up even thinking about bug reporting it: what do I say? Where are the logs that throw any light on the system problems? Which bug do I report when it changes from day to day? I suspect that many others are in a similar situation, so that the bug tracking doesn't reflect the real situation. All of that said, some of the underlying design ideas are good, but particulary concurrent systems need that simplicity and transparency, and the technology to do it exists if little used. ael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54359d9d.5070...@eastlink.ca -- Tomasz Kundera
Re: scp stalled
Hi Francesco, what kernel version do you use? There is an unfixed (in mainline) kernel bug in the tun device which might cause your problems (see https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74051 ). This will only be a problem if you use a tunnel to connect to your server. Greets Robert Am 21.05.2014 21:16, schrieb Francesco Pietra: Hello: Since a few days, scp downloading 500MB file from a supercomputer at the Italian center CINECA results quite often in francesco@tya64:~/PLX$ scp -p fpiet...@login.plx.cineca.it:/gpfs/scratch/userexternal/fpietra0/P3f_accelMD_H2O_PLX/*29.dcd /home/francesco/PLX npt_accel-29.dcd3% 13MB 0.0KB/s - stalled - No problem with small files. Check at CINECA resulted in no malfunction. The provider (TELECOM ITALY) says their adsl if percetly functioning. Actually, the speed, ca 600kb/s, is as expected (don't smile, Italy is at that speed; if you pay more, you can just hope to download at 1000kb/s, while out is always impracticably slow). My question is: can scp, as available from my installation on a wheezy amd64 box, be responsible? thanks for advice francesco pietra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/537d927a.9010...@rinx.de
Re: root low space
Hi Francesco, backup only the affected volumes (2 in your case, being vg1-root and vg1-home). A tool like partclone can be useful in your case, as it only backups used sectors, which reduces file size of the resulting backup image and also speeds up the whole process. Greets Robert Am 22.05.2014 08:43, schrieb Francesco Pietra: Do you mean backing up the volume being affected or all partitions/ thanks francesco On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com mailto:hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 09:05:50PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: Hi Robert: Thanks for the input. I was at older ideas that shrinking a volume is a dangerous move. francesco Just in case, make a backup first! -- hendr8ik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140522014546.gb27...@topoi.pooq.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/537da06e.4030...@rinx.de
Re: scp stalled
Hi Francesco, as you have not heared of it, it is unlikely that you use it. So I would go for an mtu check. What is 'ping -M do -s 1472 login.plx.cineca.it' saying, does it work? Greets Robert Am 22.05.2014 08:53, schrieb Francesco Pietra: Hi Robert: francesco@tya64:~$ uname -r 3.2.0-4-amd64 francesco@tya64:~$ I do not understand tunnel. I use classical scp, passwordless (my pub keys at the mainframe): francesco@tya64:~$ scp -p fpiet...@login.plx.cineca.it:/gpfs/scratch/userexternal/fpietra0/P2f_accelMD_H2O_PLX/*30.dcd /home/francesco/PLX and stalling occurs randomly. I did not try with another box, where jelly is installed. Also, I did not try either from the Linux prompt (actually I us startx, followed by gnome-session. I am having those problems from the gnome terminal). I never had such problems from a French server at the Univ Picardie, but that automatically probalby uses ftp (and it has to be used from the graphical interface). Thanks francesco On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Robert Rottscholl secur...@rinx.de mailto:secur...@rinx.de wrote: Hi Francesco, what kernel version do you use? There is an unfixed (in mainline) kernel bug in the tun device which might cause your problems (see https://bugzilla.kernel.org/__show_bug.cgi?id=74051 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74051 ). This will only be a problem if you use a tunnel to connect to your server. Greets Robert Am 21.05.2014 21 tel:21.05.2014%2021:16, schrieb Francesco Pietra: Hello: Since a few days, scp downloading 500MB file from a supercomputer at the Italian center CINECA results quite often in francesco@tya64:~/PLX$ scp -p fpiet...@login.plx.cineca.it:/__gpfs/scratch/userexternal/__fpietra0/P3f_accelMD_H2O_PLX/*__29.dcd /home/francesco/PLX npt_accel-29.dcd3% 13MB 0.0KB/s - stalled - No problem with small files. Check at CINECA resulted in no malfunction. The provider (TELECOM ITALY) says their adsl if percetly functioning. Actually, the speed, ca 600kb/s, is as expected (don't smile, Italy is at that speed; if you pay more, you can just hope to download at 1000kb/s, while out is always impracticably slow). My question is: can scp, as available from my installation on a wheezy amd64 box, be responsible? thanks for advice francesco pietra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-REQUEST@lists.__debian.org mailto:debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/__537d927a.9010...@rinx.de https://lists.debian.org/537d927a.9010...@rinx.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/537da1d3.5000...@rinx.de
Re: root low space
Hi Fransesco, what does 'vgs' say is there free space? If not, resize vg1-home (reduce size) and afterwards increase vg1-root. But be careful first resize the filesystem (resize2fs) and afterwards the logical volume (lvreduce), otherwise you might loose data. Regards Robert Rottscholl Am 20.05.2014 19:24, schrieb Francesco Pietra: Hello: I was short seeing in building my partitions for raid mirror with jelly (two disks 1000 MB each) With latest upgrading francesco@gig64:~$ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/vg1-root 922M 839M 35M 97% / udev 10M 0 10M 0% /dev tmpfs 1.6G 860K 1.6G 1% /run tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock tmpfs 3.2G 80K 3.2G 1% /run/shm /dev/mapper/vg1-home 770G 248G 484G 34% /home /dev/mapper/vg1-opt 9.1G 3.1G 5.6G 36% /opt /dev/mapper/vg1-tmp 5.4G 13M 5.1G 1% /tmp /dev/mapper/vg1-usr55G 6.4G 46G 13% /usr /dev/mapper/vg1-var19G 2.5G 15G 15% /var none 4.0K 0 4.0K 0% /sys/fs/cgroup francesco@gig64:~$ I fear ther is no possibility to expand vg1-root. Or is any? There are troublesome installations besides the norm, so it would be worthwhile to find a way. Thanks for advice francesco pietra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/537ba645.3020...@rinx.de
Re: auto-activating iSCSI device with an LVM volume group
Hi Seb, since nobody answered I looked into your problem. I assume that you either use wheezy or squeeze. In both versions your setup should be possible. In the Debian BTS I found a thread dealing with your problem: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=498616 , according to it you should add your lvm to LVMGROUPS in /etc/default/open-iscsi and you should enable automatic in /etc/iscsi/iscsid.conf setting node.startup to automatic. I hope this helps cheers Robert Am 10.04.2014 00:11, schrieb Seb: Hi, I've been trying to find the proper piece of documentation that explains why an iSCSI device I have access to is not activated automatically at boot time. Access to the device is via open-iscsi package, and the device is perfectly accessible once it is manually activated using GParted. The device holds a single LVM physical volume containing a single logical volume group, onto which an ext4 file system has been created. I can mount and use this file system without problems. However, I don't understand why the physical volume is not automatically activated at boot time, which means I have to manually do it in GParted, and then mount the file system available in the LVM. How can these steps be automated at boot time? Cheers, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53730de0.1020...@rinx.de
Re: disk maintenance raid1
Hi Francesco, you can adjust the number of mounts after which the filesystem is checked with 'tune2fs -c N'. Or you can use 'fsck -i' to use a time dependent checking. Greetings Robert Am 08.05.2014 18:00, schrieb Francesco Pietra: Hi Robert; Thanks a lot for providing the information that I was looking for. I use ext2 fro boot and ext3 for everything else. Actually, I want that periodic checking is carried out automatically. cheers francesco On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Robert Rottscholl wrote: Hi Francesco, which filesystems do you use on these installations? It is possible that the checks are disabled. You can check this via 'tune2fs -l' and look for the parameter 'Maximum mount count'. Disk checks are disabled if this parameter is set to '-1' or '0'. Another possibility might be the usage of ext4 on squeeze and something else on wheezy. In ext4 disk checks are (I think) disabled by default (see http://forums.opensuse.org/__showthread.php/437298-fsck-__not-needed-ext4-filesystems http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/437298-fsck-not-needed-ext4-filesystems ). Greetings Robert Am 08.05.2014 15:40, schrieb Francesco Pietra: Hello: W#ith my amd64 squeeze box, disk (500GB) check is never carried out as far as I can see. In contrast, with the wheezy box, a long disk (1000GB) check is carried out on my home every 30 times it is accessed, as well as on the other partitions. Both are raid mirror, with grub on both disk. How to deal with the squeeze box? thanks francesco pietra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-REQUEST@lists.__debian.org mailto:debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/__536b9e62.4010...@rinx.de https://lists.debian.org/536b9e62.4010...@rinx.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/536c7656.60...@rinx.de
Re: disk maintenance raid1
Hi Francesco, which filesystems do you use on these installations? It is possible that the checks are disabled. You can check this via 'tune2fs -l' and look for the parameter 'Maximum mount count'. Disk checks are disabled if this parameter is set to '-1' or '0'. Another possibility might be the usage of ext4 on squeeze and something else on wheezy. In ext4 disk checks are (I think) disabled by default (see http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/437298-fsck-not-needed-ext4-filesystems ). Greetings Robert Am 08.05.2014 15:40, schrieb Francesco Pietra: Hello: W#ith my amd64 squeeze box, disk (500GB) check is never carried out as far as I can see. In contrast, with the wheezy box, a long disk (1000GB) check is carried out on my home every 30 times it is accessed, as well as on the other partitions. Both are raid mirror, with grub on both disk. How to deal with the squeeze box? thanks francesco pietra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/536b9e62.4010...@rinx.de
Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags
On 24/11/2013 02:45, Robert Millan wrote: On 23/11/2013 22:53, Don Armstrong wrote: kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 Most of the bugs affecting one of these also affect the other. I think it makes sense to add a single tag to cover both. FWIW, I think dpkg resolved this quite nicely by splitting the architecture in two: $ head -n 9 ostable cputable | grep -v ^# == ostable == uclibceabi-linuxlinux-uclibceabilinux[^-]*-uclibceabi uclibc-linuxlinux-uclibclinux[^-]*-uclibc gnueabihf-linux linux-gnueabihf linux[^-]*-gnueabihf gnueabi-linux linux-gnueabi linux[^-]*-gnueabi gnuspe-linuxlinux-gnuspelinux[^-]*-gnuspe gnux32-linuxlinux-gnux32linux[^-]*-gnux32 gnulp-linux linux-gnulp linux[^-]*-gnulp gnu-linux linux-gnu linux[^-]*(-gnu.*)? gnu-kfreebsdkfreebsd-gnukfreebsd[^-]*(-gnu.*)? gnu-knetbsd knetbsd-gnu knetbsd[^-]*(-gnu.*)? gnu-kopensolariskopensolaris-gnukopensolaris[^-]*(-gnu.*)? gnu-hurdgnu gnu[^-]* bsd-darwin darwin darwin[^-]* bsd-freebsd freebsd freebsd[^-]* bsd-netbsd netbsd netbsd[^-]* bsd-openbsd openbsd openbsd[^-]* sysv-solarissolaris solaris[^-]* uclibceabi-uclinux uclinux-uclibceabi uclinux[^-]*-uclibceabi uclibc-uclinux uclinux-uclibc uclinux[^-]*(-uclibc.*)? tos-mintmintmint[^-]* == cputable == i386i486(i[3456]86|pentium) 32 little ia64ia64ia6464 little alpha alpha alpha.* 64 little amd64 x86_64 x86_64 64 little armeb armeb arm.*b 32 big arm arm arm.* 32 little arm64 aarch64 aarch64 64 little avr32 avr32 avr32 32 big hppahppahppa.* 32 big m32rm32rm32r32 big m68km68km68k32 big mipsmipsmips(eb)? 32 big mipsel mipsel mipsel 32 little powerpc powerpc (powerpc|ppc) 32 big ppc64 powerpc64 (powerpc|ppc)64 64 big s390s390s39032 big s390x s390x s390x 64 big sh3 sh3 sh3 32 little sh3eb sh3eb sh3eb 32 big sh4 sh4 sh4 32 little sh4eb sh4eb sh4eb 32 big sparc sparc sparc 32 big sparc64 sparc64 sparc64 64 big -- Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5291e6ef.4020...@gmx.com
Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags
On 23/11/2013 22:53, Don Armstrong wrote: kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 Most of the bugs affecting one of these also affect the other. I think it makes sense to add a single tag to cover both. -- Robert Millan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52915a2a.8010...@debian.org
Re: Would like a ports mailing list for x32
I would recommend the Lubuntu distribution. It is light on resources, the gui works in a similar manner to windows and does not have too many easy to mess up settings. On Aug 18, 2013 10:51 PM, Aeon gaeaesse...@gmail.com wrote: What is the best and most Recommended Distro for someone that has been stuck in Microsoft world.. and wants to have full functionality? On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Daniel, Daniel Schepler wrote: It would be nice to have a mailing list for the Debian port to the X32 ABI on amd64 http://sites.google.com/site/x32abi/. Most likely debian-x32. So far, discussions on it have been scattered around, and mostly in private mails, so it would be nice to have a central location and archive for future discussions. Would it make sense to just use debian-amd64@? If not: Name: debian-x32 Rationale: coordination for the x32 port currently in progress on debian-ports.org Short description: Debian port to x32 ABI Long description: Discussions on the port of Debian GNU/Linux to support the x32 ABI. Category: ports Subscription policy: open Post policy: open Web archive: yes Thanks, Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130819004935.GA18542@elie.Belkin -- Only through silence can true wisdom enter the House of the Soul, and only in wisdom can true Love make that dwelling a home that is strong enough to withstand all the elements of destruction that would tear it to the Ground. Sow a thought and reap and Act Sow an Act and Reap a Habit Sow a Habit and reap a Character Sow a Character and Reap a Destiny Sow your Seeds Now for the Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday and all is well. Timeless Circles Create Cures! I am Dedicated to your Perfection, ~HU SU~ ==aho mitakuye oyasin== By: Aeon-PI Family of Phlo a living free man without Prejudice. *Sustainable Research Director, Timeless Solutionshttp://www.timelessearth.co, llc* 928-274-2298 ~~ My Main Site and contact AEON PI http://aeonpi.net Skype ME I love to chat by Skype: aeon2012 ~~ Notice to the Principal is Notice to the Agent. Notice to the Agent is Notice to the Principal. ~ ** NOTICE: Sender is a CONSULTANT and LIAISON ONLY. ** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE ** This e-mail message is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 UP.SO.C. §2510-2521 and is legally privileged. Unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail, and destroy all copies of the original Message. Other places to find me:I work with Global groups to Provide Local Changes [image: :rolleyes:] Phoenix Voyage http://www.phoenixvoyage.com/ Timeless Solutions http://timelessearth.co/team/earth-team/ Facebook http://www.facebook.com/Aeonpi Humanity Healing http://humanityhealing.net/aeon MySpace1Percent Rule http://www.myspace.com/1percentrule and http://groups.myspace.com/The1PercentRule [Ed. Note: Always trust YOUR own knowingness. Never take anything for granted. Use your own mind to discern what you will from your own readings. Do your own additional research]. This is NOT a MLM and has been sent for information only. Under Bill s.1618 Title III passed by the 105th US Congress, this message cannot be considered Spam as long as the sender includes contact information and a method of removal. If at any time you no longer wish to receive email, please just hit return to sender with the word: REMOVE ME in the subject line. Thank you.
Re: shell wrapper to set ioctls before after a command execution?
That sounds like a good idea but you would need to blacklist the PIDs of the commands called from your backup script as well. Most likely, they are the processes opening all of the files to start with. You might want to look at using a python script for your backup script so you can more easily capture the PIDs of the executed commands. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Giacomo Mulas gmu...@oa-cagliari.inaf.itwrote: Hello everybody. I am looking for hints to create a wrapper for an arbitrary command, so that I can set a ioctl using its PID and reset the ioctl after the command is finished. The problem I need to solve is the following: I have an hybrid spinning+ssd drive on my laptop, and I set up flashcache to use the small (~20G) ssd to cache the 500G spinning disk. It works well, but is defeated every time a backup runs, or any cron job which goes through the whole disk, thereby very effectively wiping the cache (i.e. throwing away the most frequently used data from the cache and making it useless until it is repopulated). Flashcache does offer the possibility to blacklist PIDs so that they will not go through the cache. It cannot remove the PIDs automatically, so they must be removed from the blacklist after the process finishes. So my idea would be to use wrappers which call flashcache_setioctl before the command to be blacklisted, and immediately after it is finished. Setting is easy: I can just do, e.g. flashcache_setioctl -a -b $$ /dev/mapper/mycache ; this adds the current PID ; to the black list exec mycommand $@ however, in this way the shell exits after mycommand finishes, and I cannot add at the end the final command flashcache_setioctl -r -b $$ /dev/mapper/mycache which would remove the PID from the black list of the cache. Can someone suggest a way to wrap a command so that I can know its PID (before it is launched or immediately after) and get back control when it is finished? It sounds relatively easy, and more general than my specific problem, I would be surprised if noone else has yet faced a similar case (and solved it). Thanks, bye Giacomo -- __**__**_ Giacomo Mulas gmu...@oa-cagliari.inaf.it __**__**_ OSSERVATORIO ASTRONOMICO DI CAGLIARI Str. 54, Loc. Poggio dei Pini * 09012 Capoterra (CA) Tel. (OAC): +39 070 71180 248 Fax : +39 070 71180 222 Tel. (UNICA): +39 070 675 4916 __**__**_ When the storms are raging around you, stay right where you are (Freddy Mercury) __**__**_ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-REQUEST@lists.**debian.orgdebian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/**alpine.DEB.2.10.1306061630310.** 6...@capitanata.oa-cagliari.**inaf.ithttp://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.10.1306061630310@capitanata.oa-cagliari.inaf.it
Re: shell wrapper to set ioctls before after a command execution?
Wasn't sure it had been thought out. Thought you were doing a single
backup script expecting blacklisting the single PID to work. The method
you have should work great.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Giacomo Mulas
gmu...@oa-cagliari.inaf.itwrote:
On Thu, 6 Jun 2013, Robert Goley wrote:
That sounds like a good idea but you would need to blacklist the PIDs of
the
commands called from your backup script as well. Most likely, they are
the
processes opening all of the files to start with. You might want to look
at
using a python script for your backup script so you can more easily
capture
the PIDs of the executed commands.
Actually, I use backuppc, which in turn just uses rsync (with a lot of
options). So it just gets down to substituting vanilla rsync with a wrapped
rsync. But in general, yes, you are completely right. So far, I came up
with
this (generic) wrapper script:
#! /bin/bash
CACHEDEVICES=/dev/mapper/**capitanatacache
$*
mypid=$!
for dev in ${CACHEDEVICES} ; do flashcache_setioctl -a -b ${mypid} ${dev}
; done
wait ${mypid}
exitcode=$?
for dev in ${CACHEDEVICES} ; do flashcache_setioctl -r -b ${mypid} ${dev}
; done
exit ${exitcode}
Now I have to implement it through my updatedb (and similar) cron jobs, and
my backup system.
Ciao
Giacomo
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Re: Just to be very clear about Office
You will find the user interface different. It is capable of reading and writing microsoft file formats, OpenOffice still doesn't write OOXML and there is very little macro compatibility with Excel. I dn't know what to do if you want to run Microsoft Office on a Linux system. Rumours are that it can be run on Wine to some extent. Older versions, yes, newer versions not so much. Buy a Windows license with the MS Office license and run them in a vm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAJBJNmtYTpAJOqn3zidvm=rzqLM_wX1_PJ5yyEp3K4ZY=cn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: a few dumb questions about wine
I have had the most luck with the PlayOnLinux wrapper for Wine. It
allows for running multiple Wine versions as some version seem to
work better for some programs. It also handles the installation of
those extra binary versions. It has a list of supported apps to
ease the installation process too. I have not tested it lately on
Debian but they do provide package repositories for Squeeze and
Lenny. I would give it a shot if I were you. Could save you a good
deal of time.
Robert
On 12/29/2011 11:43 AM, Michael Fothergill wrote:
Dear Folks,
I tried using wine after a long time. I installed it using
synaptic and nosed around to see what had happened. I am running
squeeze amd64 on a newish amd64 novatech box.
I noticed that under the system tools menu window a wine
configuration icon appeared. I clicked on it and I got a little
window appearing asking for lib32ns-mdns to be installed to allow
internet compatability. I installed it.
I also googled about for instructions on using wine. Some sites
said that the version of wine available in the debian respository
was older than the latest versions of wine and recommended some
solutions to this.
All I want to do is run MSOffice 2010 using it.
I use OpenOffice a lot but everyone I work with uses MSWord and I
am having difficulty with compatability with image files and
anchoring them to the page vs characters etc. The .doc format
doesn't like the page anchoring and the images keep moving around
like poltergeists every time I save files and re open them again
in the .doc format and they keep reverting to the character
anchoring format from page.
I could also run the MSViewer program in Wine to check for
problems and fix them as best I can.
I typed mikef@Vigor20:~$ wine ~/.wine/drive_c/'Program
Files'/'Internet Explorer'/iexplore.exe
and got a blank window appearing with a title saying Wine Windows
Explorer and then a little prompt asking me to install gecko which
I clicked on.
Then the blank window reappeared and I got the following output:
fixme:ole:CoResumeClassObjects stub
fixme:shdocvw:go_home stub
fixme:urlmon:URLMonikerImpl_BindToObject use running object table
fixme:win:WIN_CreateWindowEx Parent is HWND_MESSAGE
fixme:iphlpapi:NotifyAddrChange (Handle 0x7db399b8, overlapped
0x7db3999c): stub
fixme:system:SetProcessDPIAware stub!
fixme:msimtf:CActiveIMM_Create ((nil)
{08c0e040-62d1-11d1-9326-0060b067b86e} 0x101ef34)
fixme:ole:CoCreateInstance no instance created for interface
{08c0e040-62d1-11d1-9326-0060b067b86e} of class
{4955dd33-b159-11d0-8fcf-00aa006bcc59}, hres is 0x80004002
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_QueryStatus
(0x1255ec)-((null) 1 0x32f0a4 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1255ec)-((null) 25 2
0x32f0b8 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1255ec)-((null) 26 2
0x32f0b8 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClientSite_GetContainer (0x1255ec)-(0x32f0fc)
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec
(0x1255ec)-({000214d1---c000-0046} 37 0
0x32f210 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec
(0x1255ec)-({000214d1---c000-0046} 84 0 (nil)
0x32f248)
fixme:win:WIN_CreateWindowEx Parent is HWND_MESSAGE
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1255ec)-((null) 29 2
0x32fc38 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:DocHostUIHandler_GetDropTarget (0x1255ec)
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec
(0x1255ec)-({000214d0---c000-0046} 69 0 (nil)
0x32fb78)
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec
(0x1255ec)-({000214d0---c000-0046} 69 0 (nil)
0x32fb78)
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1255ec)-((null) 26 2
0x32fc18 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1255ec)-((null) 29 2
0x32fc28 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec
(0x1255ec)-({000214d1---c000-0046} 103 0 (nil)
(nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec
(0x1255ec)-({de4ba900-59ca-11cf-9592-44455354} 2315 0
(nil) (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1255ec)-((null) 35 0
(nil) (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1255ec)-((null) 28 2
0x32fb78 (nil))
fixme:shdocvw:ClientSite_GetContainer (0x1255ec)-(0x32fa6c)
fixme:shdocvw:InPlaceFrame_SetStatusText
(0x1255ec)-(0xf76418f9)
Suggestions welcome here.
Regards
Michael Fothergill
fixme:shdocvw:ClOleCommandTarget_Exec (0x1255ec)-((null) 25 2
0x32f978 (nil
Re: please update patches / investigate build failures for gcc-4.7 snapshot builds
El 19 de desembre de 2011 0:55, Matthias Klose d...@debian.org ha escrit: Please have a look at the gcc-4.7 package in experimental, update patches (hurd, kfreebsd, ARM is fixed in svn), and investigate the build failures (currently ia64, but more will appear). Existing kbsd-gnu.diff is obsolete, please replace with attached build fix. -- Robert Millan --- a/src/gcc/config/kfreebsd-gnu.h~ 2011-07-21 17:31:44.0 +0200 +++ b/src/gcc/config/kfreebsd-gnu.h 2011-12-19 20:20:26.961301396 +0100 @@ -33,3 +33,4 @@ #define GNU_USER_DYNAMIC_LINKERGLIBC_DYNAMIC_LINKER #define GNU_USER_DYNAMIC_LINKER32 GLIBC_DYNAMIC_LINKER32 #define GNU_USER_DYNAMIC_LINKER64 GLIBC_DYNAMIC_LINKER64 +#define GNU_USER_DYNAMIC_LINKERX32 GLIBC_DYNAMIC_LINKERX32
Re: What groups does a desktop power-user need to belong to?
Not _all_ users -- only the ones who have the root password. Which you simply don't give to ordinary users. Which bypasses the purpose of groups and relies solely on passwords for security, which are crackable. Even on a system which supports it, what is there to stop a user who has the root password and physical access but isn't a member of the group wheel, from logging in directly as root from the console? The threat of losing their job/being kicked out of school. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajbjnmtmrg+y8ck7rkipwz-htza5g8k8dnw58uioc4kczvz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: What groups does a desktop power-user need to belong to?
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:05 AM, A J Stiles de...@earthshod.co.uk wrote: On Monday 08 Aug 2011, Robert Isaac wrote: On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Karl Schmidt k...@xtronics.com wrote: What groups does a desktop power-user need to belong to? Does it really matter when any user that has the root password can gain root privileges thanks to gnu su's inability to limit root privileges to a specific group? The idea is, by cunning use of groups, never to have to give out the root password in the first place. I understand that, however _all_ users can gain root with gnu su, effectively defeating the purpose of groups if you don't configure pam_wheel beyond its default. See section 23.6.1 of the 'su invocation' man page: http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/su-invocation.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajbjnmughcjnoi2crbtbnsqgelawdapaz6jb7vwtpfw8xsq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: What groups does a desktop power-user need to belong to?
On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Karl Schmidt k...@xtronics.com wrote: What groups does a desktop power-user need to belong to? Does it really matter when any user that has the root password can gain root privileges thanks to gnu su's inability to limit root privileges to a specific group? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajbjnmvnolqyqcst73mppfiwmmgtfpw3zjj00jdg7a2oj3p...@mail.gmail.com
Re: What groups does a desktop power-user need to belong to?
It depends on how you define a power user. If you are trying to have a user that can burn cds, cdrom is required. If you have a remote user who is only going to update website files for apache, cdrom is pointless. I would define power users as members of the sudo group which has access to root by using their own passwords. That gives them the ability to install software etc. If concerned about the limits of how to minimize what they can do as root, you can explicitly limit that access by defining only what commands they can run using sudo for the group %sudo. It is also worth noting that I believe the group staff has permissions by default to install software in /usr/local. As I said above though, power user really depends on the general tasks you have in mind for that machine. Robert On 08/06/2011 12:32 PM, Karl Schmidt wrote: I've googled a bit and not found satisfying answers - hope someone here can help. What groups does a desktop power-user need to belong to? Many of the groups are only used by the system (example shadow, - some of the groups are obviously of use for a desktop user ( cdrom, dialout ). I have a list of these groups at: http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Debian_Linux#User_Groups_Permissions But I want to sort them for desktop users, sys only and sysadmin. Several groups would not be useful for any human user. Karl Schmidt EMail k...@xtronics.com Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th Street Ph (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 The government can print money - they can't print wealth. kps -- Robert Goley FOSS Implementation Specialist Toll Free: (800) 338-4984 Local: (770) 479-7933 Fax: (770) 479-4076 www.openrda.com America's only Free Open Source fund accounting software company.
Re: Fwd: /bin/sh linked to dash? SOlVED, however..
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Finding all scripts with /bin/sh and changing them to /bin/bash can be done in a couple of lines of perl. Trivial to do really It's more trivial to change the default shell to bash if it is necessary for a configuration, there is no need to get defensive about dash or force its use upon anyone that doesn't want to use it. (and /bin/sh is not going back to bash, it is going to dash or other smaller and more efficient posix shell choices since it speeds up boot time to not have to load bash for things that don't require bash). So a few seconds saved whenever a kernel update is issued justifies breaking existing configurations? Are you really making that argument? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAJBJNmvRZhVTW=yMh3uMvCbjvt3R75ZXLyxCddsJgH=y1_j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: libcholmod
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 4:00 PM, brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.net wrote: My comment about multiarch was an extension of the previous paragraph. If those extra development files (such as headers) end up in both library packages, they may cause a file conflict. I'm still not seeing it. The headers should be the same between architectures, unless there are differing versions between the architectures, like say libc 2.8 in lib32 and libc 2.14 in lib64. Even that bit of insanity could be solved by placing headers in renamed directories, which every build system worth using can work with. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktincp6f9mc-pgutx8dndfg4xqxk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: libcholmod
It will also affect multiarch, where those two versions of a library package may be for separate architectures. You'll have to explain how a library in lib32 could possibly conflict with a library in lib64 as long as ld is doing its job correctly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktincy8+oe+j8bijgewkenw43vsc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: 32 or 64 bits for the end user.
That doesn't seem relevant to whether 32 or 64bit works with flash. That's just a problem with the flash plugin in general. Not really, Debian's security support for flash is often lacking. If users are lucky there will be a backport available, if not then they are on their own. Same package and version exists in stable. Will that be the case in 6 months time? Of course not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=n89upq0orcwdjcd7oukhgl_nh8_coltvbp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: 32 or 64 bits for the end user.
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 05:10:52PM -0400, Robert Isaac wrote: The current stable flash plugin is 32-bit only which leaves you using either nsplugin-wrapper or a 32-bit browser. There is a 64-bit beta that was released last year that works fine but no one will package it for the usual reasons. What is wrong with http://packages.debian.org/sid/flashplugin-nonfree ? Works for me (as well as flash ever works that is). For Stable? Historically it's never updated so as to _not_ be vulnerable when Adobe screws up. Do you really want to put someone's spouse through the forced death march that is Sid just for a secure flash plugin? That may be grounds for divorce in some countries.
Re: 32 or 64 bits for the end user.
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.comwrote: Flash stopped being a problem at least two years ago - I could be wrong there, it may be even longer than that. I have no reason to regret my choice of using the 64-bit port. And, I may add, I am a non-technical user. Thanks. I'm a technical user myself, so it's essential I get advice from a non-technical user before I subject my wife to it. The current stable flash plugin is 32-bit only which leaves you using either nsplugin-wrapper or a 32-bit browser. There is a 64-bit beta that was released last year that works fine but no one will package it for the usual reasons.
Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....
Partition magic really isn't worth it anymore. It rarely works with modern large disks. I agree. A similar open source solution that works better is GParted. They have a bootable iso that gives you the same type of functionality. That would be a way to load Linux first and Windows second on two separate drives and still be able to get a choice to load either OS on boot up of the PC.. How would you modify grub to see a Windows OS that hasn't been installed yet? Could I use the installer in Debian to make Windows partition on the new drive and then install the Windows on it and then grub would see it and boot up seeing both OSes? It is possible I think to modify the bootloader in Windows (without using e.g. Partition Magic) to sniff out the Linux and allow you to choice of booting it when you boot up the PC.. Yes, but it's fragile and not worth doing that way. I believe he is trying to get similar functionality as the BootMagic software that was distributed with Partition Magic. It was essentially a boot loader that booted other bootloaders (lilo, grub, NT loader etc). Would recommend using Grub myself instead. Works better overall. It is simple enough to restore Grub to the MBR when Windows overwrites it by using a boot/rescue disc. Although, it is possible to add a Grub4DOS entry to the NT loader that would provide a failsafe to allow booting into Linux from Windows in the event Windows overwrites the bootloader on the MBR. -- Robert Goley FOSS Implementation Specialist Toll Free: (800) 338-4984 Local: (770) 479-7933 Fax: (770) 479-4076 www.openrda.com America's only Free Open Source fund accounting software company.
Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....
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Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....
It is possible I think to modify the bootloader in Windows (without using e.g. Partition Magic) to sniff out the Linux and allow you to choice of booting it when you boot up the PC.. Yes, but it's fragile and not worth doing that way. Depends on the version of grub: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=550702 Grub in squeeze is 1.98 that bug is fixed in 1.99 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=-ef8=vpufumqtkh14hwthy0d-+fy5=hnqy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ATI proprietary drivers installation failures
On 11/29/10, Tomasz Nitecki t...@tnnn.pl wrote: On 29/11/10 17:00, dage...@free.fr wrote: Anyway, just a remark, I have noticed that just after the installation of Debian AMD 64, there's no xorg.conf file at all, but X runs well. Any hints to make me understand ? It 'just works' due to its ability to auto-configure itself. Take a look at the X.org wiki [1] (first point) - you can override this kind of behaviour if you like by forcing it to create xorg.conf for you. The auto-configuration doesn't detect AMD's or Nvidia's drivers. You still have to create a minimal xorg.conf if you want hardware accelerated OpenGL. Both manufacturers have utilities that do this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinn3rzaiazr46wugpyrzx-x1_+buzcccyifa...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Lotus notes oamd64?
I'm afraid it's not possible, as Lotus Notes is a non-free email/collaboration suite from IBM: http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus If the Source Code is not available then that is surely, in and of itself, a good enough reason to run it inside a chroot -- that way, it can't get at anything it's not supposed to. Are you implying that IBM is distributing malicious code? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=mwrzyzzu78d0cj=ysdu3rvggnef7bsngr7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Google Gears
This may not provide all the same features as Google gears but what about Thunderbird with offline caching turn on? Similar to Outlook but cross platform. Allows for accessing all IMAP folders or just the select ones you want while offline. Works great with apps at our office... On Jul 5, 2010 5:56 PM, Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 21:53:05 +0200, Michael codejod...@gmx.ch wrote: You don't need gears... Sure, but the OP wanted to use gmail *offline* and Google gears was not available. -- Eric S Fraga GnuPG: 8F5C 279D 3907 E14A 5C29 570D C891 93D8 FFFC F67D
make-kpkg fails writing to weird directories on dual or multi core processors
Hi I have using make-kpkg successfully on my amd64 dual core system until about a month ago. I did the following: installed debian testing amd64 apt-get install kernel-package make g++ gcc build-essentail libncurses5-dev linux-source-2.6.32 and any other files I needed to build a kernel I invoked make-kpkg make-kpkg --initrd --revision custom1.0 --append-to-version custom1.0 kernel_image kernel_headers ( I did not set the CONCURRENCY_LEVEL although I did try it with values 2 and 3 and I still get the same error below) The compile is fine until the package building starts. Check the errors below, where does the _-live1.0_ come from? I did not type this in. I have tried uninstalling all the packages and reinstalling them, using standard kernels to boot from and custom kernels but nothing works. However it works fine on my laptop which has a centrino 1.5GHz single cpu. I also tried kernel-package version 12.033, 12.032 and the one that came with lenny. Problem remains the same. exec make -f /usr/share/kernel-package/ruleset/minimal.mk debian DEBIAN_REVISION=custom1.0 APPEND_TO_VERSION=custom1.0 V=1 INITRD=YES == making target debian/stamp/conf/minimal_debian [new prereqs: ]== This is kernel package version . test -d debian || mkdir debian test ! -e stamp-building || rm -f stamp-building WARNING: Couldn't open directory /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.26/debian/linux-image-/lib/modules/2.6.32-live1.0: No such file or directory FATAL: Could not open /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.26/debian/linux-image-/lib/modules/2.6.32-live1.0/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/linux/src/linux-source-2.6.26' make[1]: *** [debian/stamp/install/linux-image-] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/linux/src/linux-source-2.6.26' make: *** [kernel_image] Error 2 Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Rob Key
Odd issue with mkfs.xfs under Lenny/amd64
I have not used xfs in a couple years but want to for a new server. I have followed all the xfs documentation I could find. I believe my commands are correct but am not seeing the results I expected from the documentation. The issues occur with the sunit and swidth values. I have a hardware raid5 array with 6 disks and a 256k strip size. I have created a LVM volume using the -I option with 256k for the value. I am creating the xfs filesystem with the following command: mkfs.xfs -f -b size=4096 -l size=128m -d sunit=512,swidth=2560,agsize=3g -L test /dev/raidvg/test It displays this info... meta-data=/dev/raidvg/test isize=256agcount=34, agsize=786432 blks = sectsz=512 attr=2 data = bsize=4096 blocks=26214400, imaxpct=25 = sunit=64 swidth=320 blks naming =version 2 bsize=4096 log =internal log bsize=4096 blocks=32768, version=2 = sectsz=512 sunit=64 blks, lazy-count=0 realtime =none extsz=4096 blocks=0, rtextents=0 I tried mounting with with the command recommended below as well as without options. mount -o sunit=512,swidth=2560,noatime,nodiratime,logbufs=8 /dev/raidvg/test /test Here are the results from xfs_info: meta-data=/dev/mapper/raidvg-test isize=256agcount=34, agsize=786432 blks = sectsz=512 attr=2 data = bsize=4096 blocks=26214400, imaxpct=25 = sunit=64 swidth=320 blks naming =version 2 bsize=4096 log =internal bsize=4096 blocks=32768, version=2 = sectsz=512 sunit=64 blks, lazy-count=0 realtime =none extsz=4096 blocks=0, rtextents=0 As you can see, these values do not match the settings I told it to use. If I use sunit=4096 and swidth=20480 values instead, It correctly shows the values I wanted in mkfs.xfs and xfs_info as long as I do not specify different values in the mount options. Using mount /dev/raidvg/test /test or mount -o sunit=4096,swidth=20480,noatime,nodiratime,logbufs=8 /dev/raidvg/test /test it will show the values I expected to see for my setup. Here is an xfs_info of those mounts. meta-data=/dev/mapper/raidvg-test isize=256agcount=34, agsize=786432 blks = sectsz=512 attr=2 data = bsize=4096 blocks=26214400, imaxpct=25 = sunit=512swidth=2560 blks naming =version 2 bsize=4096 log =internal bsize=4096 blocks=32768, version=2 = sectsz=512 sunit=64 blks, lazy-count=0 realtime =none extsz=4096 blocks=0, rtextents=0 Can anyone explain these results? It does not match up with anything I have found on the web. Is this a bug? Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: kde4
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Karl Schmidt k...@xtronics.com wrote: Anyone running KDE4? Any AMD64 issues? Can it be loaded running lenny? All of the backporting projects that I have seen stopped around 4.1. You could probably backport it yourself if you have the time, or remember to configure everything to install in /usr/local to save your future upgrade path. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: What is the matter with the http://people.debian.org/~rafael/skype-amd64/?
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:30 AM, A J Stilesde...@earthshod.co.uk wrote: On Tuesday 21 Jul 2009, James Brown wrote: I know about ekiga and such but they do not serve for all my aims. I (and many people in my country - Russia, when existing terrible and bloody dictatorship of tyrants Putin and Medvedev ) need to have an encrypted telephony either for calling to VoiP-phones or to ordinary phones. But in the last case ekiga and SIP are not useful and the sources of the Putins secret political police such SORM can control all my outgoing calles through ekiga and SIP. Are you really so naïve as to think that Governments haven't paid the developers of Skype to insert a backdoor? That could explain part of the reason why they are so dead set against anybody else getting their hands on the Source Code. Do you really believe a horribly inept and inefficient government is going to have the computing power to search through and sort the massive amount of data produced from such an effort? Skype is closed source because of greed, eBay wants as much profit as they can possibly acquire from skype and that includes licensing the code to whomever. If it's encrypted telephony you want, you can always tunnell an IAX connection through OpenSSH. The only secrets then are the session keys; and when you sever the connection, you can even publish the used keys, thus allowing you plausibly to claim that any remaining encrypted data found on your system was placed there afterward and re-datestamped. Of course, if you really are living in a dictatorship, you've just raised a red flag by using known protocols and no amount of deniability will help you. If you are discussing things that will have repercussions from dictatorial governments, do not do so in a public place which is what the Internet is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Disk Controller detected with i686 kernel but not AMD64 kernel
I'm trying to install Debian Lenny on some Dell R610s but I've been having some major issues with the installation when trying to install with an AMD64 architecture kernel. I've also tried apt-get installing the amd64 kernel and selecting it at boot time but the system is unable to find the disks then too and halts when trying to start up the software raid on the disks. The system I have is using an LSI Logic SAS1068E PCI-Express RAID controller and the controller is correctly detected using the i686 Lenny kernel. I've attached output of lspci -v to this e-mail from the system running i686 debian. Getting anything out of the amd64 is a right pain though because it seems that various other devices aren't properly being detected. For example, I've been unable to get a USB pen drive to be detected and thus mounted and I've not been able to get the NIC firmware loaded (Broadcom bnx2 firmware required). Since I'm unable to get any form of internal or external media mounted and the NIC isn't being properly detected, I've got no way of getting output of any commands easily off the server except page-by-page over serial. Has anyone else experience this issue, and are there any workarounds? I believe that the issue is discussed in two live Debian bugs (#528351 and #526525) but there seems to be some disparity over where people believe the bug to be. I've also been having issues with getting the keyboard working during the installer and have to use the remove KVM and specify noapic,nolapic as kernel options to the installer. Any use of USB keyboard seems to hang the system. Thanks in advance, Andrew Nicols -- Systems Developer e: andrew.nic...@luns.net.uk im: a.nic...@jabber.lancs.ac.uk t: +44 (0)1524 5 10147 Lancaster University Network Services is a limited company registered in England and Wales. Registered number: 4311892. Registered office: University House, Lancaster University, Lancaster, LA1 4YW 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation QuickPath Architecture I/O Hub to ESI Port (rev 13) Subsystem: Dell Device 0236 Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 15 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask+ 64bit- Queue=0/1 Enable- Capabilities: [90] Express Root Port (Slot-), MSI 00 Capabilities: [e0] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting ? Capabilities: [150] Access Controls ? Capabilities: [160] Vendor Specific Information ? 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation QuickPath Architecture I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 13) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: d600-d9ff Capabilities: [40] Subsystem: Dell Device 0236 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask+ 64bit- Queue=0/1 Enable+ Capabilities: [90] Express Root Port (Slot-), MSI 00 Capabilities: [e0] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting ? Capabilities: [150] Access Controls ? Capabilities: [160] Vendor Specific Information ? Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver Kernel modules: shpchp 00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation QuickPath Architecture I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev 13) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: da00-ddff Capabilities: [40] Subsystem: Dell Device 0236 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask+ 64bit- Queue=0/1 Enable+ Capabilities: [90] Express Root Port (Slot-), MSI 00 Capabilities: [e0] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting ? Capabilities: [150] Access Controls ? Capabilities: [160] Vendor Specific Information ? Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver Kernel modules: shpchp 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation QuickPath Architecture I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 7 (rev 13) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=04, subordinate=04, sec-latency=0 Capabilities: [40] Subsystem: Dell Device 0236 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask+ 64bit- Queue=0/1 Enable+ Capabilities: [90] Express Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00 Capabilities: [e0] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting ? Capabilities: [150] Access Controls ? Capabilities: [160] Vendor Specific Information ? Kernel driver in use: pcieport-driver Kernel modules: shpchp 00:09.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation QuickPath Architecture I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 9 (rev 13) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus:
Re: nvidia driver debian way and 3D
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Klaus Becker colon...@free.fr wrote: I just tried http://musee.louvre.fr/expo-imaginaire/escalierdesambassadeurs/fr/index.html and it works fine, and it's 3d. Klaus It also doesn't use the 3DVIA-player plugin that the first link uses. You basically have two avenues of approach, convince the Louvre to use Google's 3D web API http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/ or ask 3DVIA to port their plugin to Linux http://www.3dvia.com/need-more-help It is not a 3D driver problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: iceape-browser
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Rene Engelhard r...@debian.org wrote: Which is a polite way of rephrasing what I said earlier :) No, you pointed against an O: bug. The above ia a perfectly valid reason because when the security team (volunteers, you know, and we all know how crappy Mozilla with their security support and patches for older releases is) has to time to support it besides all the other packages in Debian it simply doesn't have it. No, you just misunderstood what I was attempting to convey, but pedantry doesn't help the situation, does it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: iceape-browser
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:03 AM, macdowell@dpf.gov.br wrote: hello, why we can't find iceape-browser in lenny, there is only for etch ? is there any conflict to download etch version with lenny ? if so there others wysiwyg html editors for lenny? thanks http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/iceape.html http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=520662 http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.devel/browse_thread/thread/f8c8a1a11f1b035e?pli=1 It is just Debian making life difficult again. Try Screem or Bluefish, not exactly WYSIWYG, but they are supported in Lenny. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: MD List in the USA
Do you still sell MD board certified in the US lists? Regards, Bob Weinstein The Carolan Group Tel - 609-714-8947 Email lweinst...@yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Resource conflict amd64 lenny MMIO issues failure of modprobe fglrx
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Francesco Pietra chiendar...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot to mention that the graphic card is Pixelview 6600 256M DDR DVI GeForce 6800. I expected that it is compatible with fglrx francesco You may have more success with the nvidia driver with that particular GPU, GeForce GPU's are nvidia products. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: reinstalling X.Org server
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 04:29:24PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/30/2009 04:18 PM, Francesco Pietra wrote: Is it possible to reinstall X.Org server on a multisocket dual-opteron computer running amd64 lenny? Why? Failure of a DIMM bank did no more allow to launch amd64. Removed the faulty slots, amd64 could be launched and the system seemed to be in order. Filled the empty bank with fresh DDR1 ECC, the total memory increased correspondingly. Again, it was now possible to carry out sophisticated chemical calculations. However, needing now to check 3D molecular structures, I found that startx does not launch X anymore, X only appearing as a flash at the bottom of the screen. I checked many X-related files against a i386 lenny, ssh linked, computer (in particular /etc/X11/xorg.conf), don't detecting damaged lines. I did not carry out a checksum. Command: tail --lines 200 /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE was not much informative, as shows below between === lines. I suspect that one or more X-related files were damaged as a consequence of the RAM problems above. Thanks francesco pietra. (II) MACH64(0): Not using default mode 1920x1440 (insufficient memory for mode) (II) MACH64(0): Not using default mode 960x720 (bad mode [snip] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) drmOpenDevice: Open failed Backtrace: 0: X(xf86SigHandler+0x6a) [0x48dd0a] 1: /lib/libc.so.6 [0x2b1686b4ef60] Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting == I'd reinstall the whole system. For an ati fglrx driver module missing? Seems like overkill. The ATI driver loves to crash/segfault if anything displeases it (like running 8bit colour mode, which some versions default to). Does fglrx support the Mach64 chip? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Where is the kernel?
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:06 AM, A J Stiles de...@earthshod.co.uk wrote: On Tuesday 06 Jan 2009, Robert Isaac wrote: That would break all three nvidia drivers currently within non-free, so it is not necessarily a good idea for the people that rely on those for a desktop. But it would certainly be a good argument to use in a letter to your elected representative, requesting a new law which would oblige hardware manufacturers to disclose driver Source Code. Yes it would, but it would probably do little good considering the current views of my elected representation towards intellectual property. Both of my Senators and my Representative in the US House of Representatives are staunch supporters of everything that makes life in the digital realm anti-social. From the draconian DMCA to Orphan Works, they support it. In any case, the temporary (until legislation forced their availability) lack of 3D accelerated video card drivers would be only a minor hardship. A cause worth fighting for is worth suffering for -- or have we forgotten that already? Unfortunately, I can't afford to be without a 3D desktop so that is not an option for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Where is the kernel?
That would break all three nvidia drivers currently within non-free, I'm sorry, but that's not the case: Debian is *only* main, non-free is a commodity place we provide for our users, it's not that something broked in non-free would stop the release to happen. That is good to say, but in practice is not really the case, especially with wireless firmware in non-free :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Where is the kernel?
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 03:06:18PM -0600, Mark Allums wrote: Exactly. That's why 2.6.27 should be more mainstream. To reiterate the thoughts of millions of right-thinking people, 2.6.27 should be the official Lenny kernel. Or at least be packaged alongside 2.6.26 in the final distribution as an alternative. Well I certainly wouldn't object to 2.6.27 being the Lenny kernel, but I have no say in that matter. That would break all three nvidia drivers currently within non-free, so it is not necessarily a good idea for the people that rely on those for a desktop. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: flashplugin-nonfree on debian-amd64 BUG ???
latest version of package flashplugin-nonfree is (IMO) downloading the wrong version of flashplayer. It seems, it is downloading the 32-bit-version. This version is not running on my 64-bit system. From debian-multimedia.org: New flash-player package for amd64 in experimental (can be installed in testing and unstable). This package contain a real 64 bits plugin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA CDROM/DVD fails to mount CDROM
Karl Schmidt wrote: SATA CDROM/DVD fails to mount CDROM on machine with 4G of memory RE:http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2008/04/msg00339.html It isn't fixed in 2.6.25-2-amd64 I don't seem to be getting this into the right hands.. Can someone get me the email of the Debian maintainer of sata_nv? I'm not sure how else to report problems with modules - I would be glad to help test it. I haven't seen any reports since 2.6.25. Are there updated details (dmesg output, etc) posted anywhere? Robert Hancock wrote: Karl Schmidt wrote: Mounting CDROMS on a cdrom/dvd/-rw used to work. At first I had a plextor 712s and thought it had failed. I replaced it with an Optotrac and now a LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1L. (These are all SATA drives) Wonder what I need to back out of lenny to get it to work again? This was a known sata_nv problem with ATAPI devices and more than 4GB of RAM. It should be fixed in 2.6.25. It isn't fixed in 2.6.25-2-amd64 #1 SMP This was supposed to be a fix: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=293360 links: http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/11/6 http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2007-11/msg07780.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg14797.html There is a patch around #55 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=351451 Karl Schmidt EMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transtronics, Inc. WEB http://xtronics.com 3209 West 9th StreetPh (785) 841-3089 Lawrence, KS 66049 FAX (785) 841-0434 Assumption is the mother of mistakes Buckaroo Banzai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How would I get debian unstable?
Yes, Linux wrote Linux when BSD wasn't available. I've read a quote somewhere that if BSD had been available he wouldn't have bothered with Linux. I have to point that out that you just did it again. :-) Don't worry, we'll just be used as lubricants when the kernel fulfills its mission of human subjugation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How would I get debian unstable?
Note that the reason that OpenBSD can claim only two security holes in the default install in the past 10 years is that there are no services active in a default install (you have to add commands to the startup script to enable them). Except they don't make that claim, OpenBSD claims two _remote_ security holes in the last ten years, which is entirely different from only two security holes. They aren't making any claims about local exploits. People reoutinely built appliances like routers using OpenBSD and e.g. a Soekris box and put it on the shelf. They may only update it when a security bug happens (rarely). Since there are simple HOWTOs for making OpenBSD on a CF card, updating the appliance consists of swapping the CF card. People do the same thing using variants of the Linux kernel. The bsd kernel is nothing special in that regard :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How would I get debian unstable?
Do you know the difference between Unix and Linux? Short answer is that Linux wrote Linux when he needed a Unix but Unix was caught in the Unix wars and there wasn't one available that wasn't tied up in legal wrangling and rewriting to remove copywritten code. So the kernel wrote itself? How is that possible? Has it become so advanced in the future that it is capable of time travel and traveled back to 1991 to self replicate? Should we be worried about consciousness within the Linux kernel? Or did you mean Linus wrote Linux? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my nvidia 3D acceleration seems to have conked out..... (problem now FIXED)
(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 768 (WW) NVIDIA(0): Unable to get display device CRT-1's EDID; cannot compute DPI (WW) NVIDIA(0): from CRT-1's EDID. (==) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (75, 75); computed from built-in default Do you have your monitor's HorizSync and VertRefresh in your xorg.conf? If so, then it may just be a bug in the blob. One of the reportedly fixed bugs in the 173.08 beta driver is the incorrect reporting of some EDID frequencies, that may be an option for you but requires using nvidia's installer, unless someone has packaged it for experimental. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my nvidia 3D acceleration seems to have conked out..... (problem now FIXED)
Just a shot in the dark, change: SubSection Display Modes 1280x768 EndSubSection to: SubSection Display Modes 1360x768 1280x768 EndSubSection Also it _isn't_ a good idea to punch in random HorizSync and VertRefresh rates as wrong values will kill a monitor eventually. I'd put a call into the manufacturer's support line to ask for the correct values, they should be able to do that much for a paying customer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian and cuda....
I read about GPUs nvidia and CUDA etc a bit on the web. I found out that CUDA is supposed to work in Linux and nosed around and saw that there is some sort of implementation of it for Ubuntu http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_get.html Unless you are developing an application that needs full access to the nvidia instruction set there is no need to worry about the very platform specific CUDA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 kernel installed, but am I running a 64-bit system?
Whoa now, don't go bashing my diesels! :) 350 HP, 650 lb-ft torque, 15 mpg in a 7000 lb truck! Plus you can convert the engine to run on waste vegetable oil AND have your home invaded by angry gun toting IRS agents when you fail to pay the fuel tax (USA only, sorry). :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA CDROM/DVD fails to mount CDROM
Karl Schmidt wrote: Mounting CDROMS on a cdrom/dvd/-rw used to work. At first I had a plextor 712s and thought it had failed. I replaced it with an Optotrac and now a LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1L. (These are all SATA drives) Wonder what I need to back out of lenny to get it to work again? This was a known sata_nv problem with ATAPI devices and more than 4GB of RAM. It should be fixed in 2.6.25. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers
Other than games, for what is 3d used? Does it take 3d to render a movie full-screen using the hardware, or is that a 2d function? CAD programs, 3d modelling programs, a few renderers, etc. It's not just eye candy that needs a hardware accelerated display. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:04:35PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: the reverse engineered nvidia driver is working now, cant recall the name of it. nv Which is 2d only, the nouveau driver is the one aiming for full 3d but without specs from nVidia it is slow going at best and is currently limited to 2d. nVidia doesn't have a 3d alternative to their blob. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: P5K-VM v BFG NVidia 8800GT OC
http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html The problems with the 8800's seem to happen on Intel and Via based Motherboards. I haven't heard of any problems with the recent nforce boards. On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Massimo Savino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if anyone is still interested in this, but I've attached output from both dmesg and lspci -vv. Also, I spoke with the computer shop where I purchased the card and they've agreed to check it out for defects. Robert, you had mentioned that the motherboard was incompatible with the card -- where can I find a list of compatible boards for Linux? Thanks everyone! Mass On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Massimo Savino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like I spoke too soon. It's the motherboard, as someone else mentioned. I am about to take a brick to it. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Massimo Savino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reinstalled last night with the card in from the start and it appears to be using the nv driver well. Now I need to test the proprietary driver, will keep everyone posted. Thanks Len! These are good suggestions, I'm sorry I wasn't able to test them. Kind regards Mass On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:37 AM, Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 11:34:07PM -0400, Massimo Savino wrote: The bios got updated a few weeks ago to the most recent version. I just realised that I can just reinstall Debian, this time with the videocard plugged in from the start, and then upgrade that way. I'll try that and see how it goes. I removed the videocard and booted into a 2gb setup. seems ok, but that's not unexpected: it worked fine with 4gb RAM too. In answer to these qns: *only part way through booting linux does it go blank? Is there still disk activity after it goes blank? * Yes to the first, and the keyboard appears to function just fine, so it looks like it's a video issue only (thank God). Could you ssh to it from another machine and capture the ouput of 'dmesg' and 'lspci -vv' and such? Maybe there is some clue in there. If it's just the video that gets messed up the system will probably still work fine and let you access it removely assuming you have openssh-server installed. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:08 AM, A J Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of buying a new 64-bit machine to use as my home desktop. (It will probably run Sid.) Does anyone know of a graphics card which is definitely supported by Free drivers? Intel, as previously stated, is the best bet for working 3d. The Radeon HD driver isn't at a working 3d stage yet but is progressing fairly quick. With nvidia there are no free 3d options just rumors of their releasing specs later this year. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hey everyone, GUI isn't working; I can't figure out how to configure my xserver correctly.
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Lance Ferrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im getting XIO: Fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0 when I try to boot debian. I'm new to linux and computers in general, so any help would be great. I have a BFG NVidea 8800 GT if that helps. If you need any more specs or anything just let me know. Edit the Driver line of the Device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use vesa instead of nv. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: P5K-VM v BFG NVidia 8800GT OC
Just as a side note, I called BFG Technologies on the off-chance they might help (they boast of a 24-hour live support in North America, so I figured I'd try it). Worse than useless: 'We don't support Linux' I was about to ask if they knew of any support links online to check. They hung up on me. Nice, eh? Often you have to lie to get any support from the manufacturer, tell them you use Windows XP. The nVidia 8xxx series is plagued by problems such as this, with most of the issues being caused by incompatible controllers on the motherboard. You can blame Microsoft and their lax standards as to what is and isn't Vista Ready or directx 10 capable for these problems. You are basically stuck with three choices, downgrade to a 7xxx series video card, use your onboard video, or swap your motherboard for one with a compatible controller. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia
The versions abobe 100.14.09 must use Xorg7.3 and higher, due to a new ABI in the Nvidia drivers. 100.14.19 builds and works fine on Etch as did 100.14.09. Only the debian package requires Xorg = 7.3 which can easily be changed by lowering the version numbers in the debian/control.in file in the source package available from Sid. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia
But they are NOT compatible. That means they don't work. The new xorg can't work with the old nvidia hence there should be a dependancy preventing you from having the old nvidia with the new xorg. It's a good thing when packages prevent you from doing broken things. The new version of xorg simply doesn't work with old driver files becase the ABI changed. That's what an ABI change means. And what the --ignoreABI switch is for. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia
Best course of action: stick to Intel graphics, or use the free nv driver. The nv driver only works on some cards and intel cards are overpriced POS that simply do not support some of more useful GL extensions. AMD/ATi has recently released specs for their newer chips, and promises to do so soon for their older chips, that is a better option than an over priced intel card. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Package xserver-xorg-core and Nvidia
AFAIK not all specs are available and even the released ones have some holes. I'm sure these will be solved over time but IMHO right _now_ the only fully supported Radeon family is still the R200 generation. R300 and partly R400 is becoming pretty good but it is not yet complete. Work on R500 has been started but is far from being ready, and support for R600 is not on the horizont yet. It's my understanding that the r500/600 libre driver is now in a usable 2d state[1] thanks to the release of the specs and the existing code from the Avivo driver, which should make the R500/600 chips a viable desktop option if you do not require 3D support, especially as the R500 cards can be bought at a significantly less price than intel's cards. It is also my understanding that the release of specs for the r300/400 cards is being held up by the AMD legal department's audit of the specs and has nothing to do with AMD/ATi's new policy towards GNU/Linux. [1] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=921num=1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sources.list help
Demand a better archive format, tar.bz2 has much better compression. Otherwise: apt-cache search unrar unrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version) Just add contrib non-free to the end of your mirror if you must use the non-free version of unrar it should look something like this: deb ftp://ftp.xx.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free replace xx with a mirror near you. apt-cache search p7zip p7zip - 7zr file archiver with high compression ratio p7zip-full - 7z and 7za file archivers with high compression ratio p7zip-full has issues with corrupting certain rar archives but is free software. On Nov 13, 2007 4:17 PM, Dave Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a friend with a new debian amd-64 install. He has unrar-free but it won't open RAR 3.0 files. It looks like it would be worthwhile to try unrar but I am not able to get appropriate access for synaptic. I went to: http://packages.debian.org/sid/unrar/amd64/download and tried adding a line to /etc/apt/sources.list as suggested at that page but get error warnings when starting synaptic. The net effect is that searching for unrar gives only the already installed unrar-free. I have the .deb package for unrar but installing it fails due to a dependency error. Can someone point me to a tutorial or explain how to get better information about the problem? This is what I got from uname: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a Linux debianroger 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Oct 2 20:37:02 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux Thanks very much. Dave -- Alexis Soyer, that Napoleon of the kitchen, to celebrate the ending of the Crimea war, served up a dish which he called a Culinary Emblem of Peace, containing among many other ingredients twelve boxes of lobsters and 200 eggs. - H.W. Tilman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Still bugs in Nvidias binary drivers
I also think we should write to our Elected Representatives and ask why it cannot be made a legal requirement for manufacturers to provide full specifications for any hardware they sell. Don't we have enough laws already? You'll have a quicker and less invasive response by sending snail-mail requests to nVidia http://www.nvidia.com/page/contact_information.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Re: Re: How to wifi with ipw3945 on Dell Vostro ???
good evening Joost, Looking at what packages you've installed, i don't see firmware-ipw3945 which is also available in the debian repository. Hence i don't know if it is essential to have it installed on the system (apparently there is no dependency about it??). Well here i have things to say: in my opinion it may be a problem related to network-manager package. When i installed debian etch from dvds, network-manager package were installed by default by the installer but i never have been able to get a stable connection to the network. No nameserver were caught during the transaction in a reliable manner. In substance, I read on a forum (foresightlinux) that network-manager was not stable and reliable enough to use it in every day work and it was proposed an alternative with dhcp-client. I have give it a try at home and effectively i could connect to internet without problem. (Personaly i prefer to work with statics adresses rather than dynamic IP). At this moment, i have a desktop with debian etch and two laptops with windows vista and xp connecting to the internet through wireless, all without problems at all, via an ethernet box coupled at a router+wifi (Topcom model). If you are ready to make an experiment, you could remove the network-manager package and replace it with the dhcp-client and redo all the configuration to see what happens. As your system does not work, it shall cost you nothing to give it a try. You can always go back doing the reverses operations. cheers -- robert caterina [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to wifi with ipw3945 on Dell Vostro ???
Hy Joost, To get an IP adress for your laptop you must specify where it can find the dhcp server. You must include in the wireless stanza the IP adress of that server via an instruction: gateway (write the IP of the dhcp server behind gateway. Hope this helps! -- robert caterina [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: How to wifi with ipw3945 on Dell Vostro ???
hello, From the message of Joost, in which he says he uses a Zyxel AP (i suppose that it is a router + wifi combined device, perhaps behind a ethernet box from his F.A.I), i deduced that the system (the laptop) needs to have a route to the interface having the dhcp service enabled on it: in general it is at the output of the ethernet box. That one has an IP address of the form 192.168.0.1 and acts as a gateway to connect to the internet. But may be i am wrong. Sorry if it is the case. -- robert caterina [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia-glx 100.14.19 freezes the whole system
So what video card has an Open Source driver that can access all hardware accellerated functions? Intel is the only company (that I am aware of) that has open source drivers that fully utilize the hardware but they are not known for being high performance or inexpensive video cards. AMD has recently released specs for ATi chips, so in the future their cards _may_ be a viable option. nVidia has yet to show any interest in opening their drivers or releasing specs (probably because of third party code/patents they've licensed). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help-libxul0d
hello, Your system is probably not up to date. Try apt-get update then apt-get upgrade. It should do the trick. Cheers robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please Help - glx
thats games are playable? could you name some? Thanks :$apt-cache search games will bring up quite a few games. I suggest checking out Nexuiz, OpenArena (in lenny and sid, though 0.7.1 hasn't been packaged yet), and Tremulous (in contrib and non-free). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#419035: rott: crashes on start on AMD64
The full version is playable on Sarge when taken from upstream CVS. How about the Shareware version (or what do you mean by full version)? There is no difference between the full retail version and the shareware version, it is just a compile switch that allows the loading of more wad files. Have you tested the Debian package on amd64-Sarge, too? Not yet. What does 32-bit compiled mean? I had compiled the game in a 32 bit chroot on my sarge amd64 box. Of course ROTT runs on 32-bit systems, we are talking about problems on 64-bit platforms. The last time I tried the Debian package (and upstream's CVS) they both crashed on startup in a 32 bit chroot AND in the 64 bit environment this was on Etch. However, are you sure you are running an amd64 flavour kernel in your Sarge install?! Yes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#419035: rott: crashes on start on AMD64
However, do you consider the game playable? The full version of the game was playable on Sarge without issues (32-bit compiled from upstream CVS). The breakage seemed to happen when compiled on an Etch system (if that's helpful) this is both the Debian package and Upstream's CVS. I am CCing the -amd64 list, maybe one of the readers is willing to get more into detail in this issue. I've been too busy to even attempt to get the game working, sorry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: deciding on a new amd64 system
Of course you can get a stupid little Athlon 64 X2 3600+ system from dell for $399CDN at the moment. Hard to beat that price/performance ratio. Of course it is a Dell, so who knows... :) -- Len Sorensen If you go the Dell route be sure to pick the Ubuntu pre-installed choice. It may be Ubuntu, but it is the GNU/Linux sale that counts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Youtube on non X86 platforms.
There is libswfdec, also free software. If all you want or need flash for is to view YouTube or Google Videos libswfdec and Gnash are a fine replacement for flash. It's when you come to the sites that think complete flash design with the latest codec is the best possible way to wow the customer that you need flash 9. I'd rather avoid those sites, myself. On 4/19/07, Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Ananda Samaddar wrote: You might want to wait for the next release of Gnash which is coming along nicely and will support flash videos from popular sites like Youtube, Myspace etc. It should be out in the next few months and is entirely free software as well. Well, in those next few months he might still want to use something which works, while waiting for gnash, and then switch to gnash as soon as it works well enough... A pragmatic approach to OSS is usually sensible: as far as you can, use free (as in free speech) software, if/when you can't, do what you can to promote the development of suitable free software but, in the meanwhile, use what is available to do the job. Nspluginwrapper and ndiswrapper are good surrogates, while waiting for the real thing. Bye Giacomo -- _ Giacomo Mulas [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ OSSERVATORIO ASTRONOMICO DI CAGLIARI Str. 54, Loc. Poggio dei Pini * 09012 Capoterra (CA) Tel. (OAC): +39 070 71180 248 Fax : +39 070 71180 222 Tel. (UNICA): +39 070 675 4916 _ When the storms are raging around you, stay right where you are (Freddy Mercury) _ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: when is etch safe to access internet?
On 12/31/06, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 02:45:57PM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote: Hi, Two interrelated questions: Short question: when can my Etch amd64 box access the net via dialup safely? At one point recently in relation to Etch (pre RC1), there was mention somewhre (perhaps the relase notes of the time) [sorry for my spottty memory] that a testing box should not be connected directly to the internet. I can't find that anymore. Right now I'm connected via an old 486 with a failing NIC. Now that Etch is frozen, is it safe to connect directly with the modem? The answer is yes. The recommendation to not directly connect an Etch or Sid box to the 'net is given so that people will not blindly go about connecting to the 'net and thinking that they are perfectly safe. Now, it is probably safer to connect a Sid box (packages take from 2 to 10 days to migrate from unstable to testing, even for security fixes). However, given that Etch is frozen, it is receiving a great deal of attention. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/12/msg8.html Etch is receiving security updates. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2D,3D,nvidia,nv?
On 12/17/06, Brian R. Whitecotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 2D nv driver is fine Last time I tried the nv driver on my 6800 my display was borked due to https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6212 which you would have known about had you attempted to use the nv driver with your card. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: nvidia driver
Sarge is a stable release, and hence will not get ANY updates. Except, of course, security fixes. ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nvidia driver
On 11/3/06, Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 02:50:58PM -0500, Robert Isaac wrote: Except, of course, security fixes. ;-) Does Debian even try to do security fixes for non-free? There is a non-free repository at security.debian.org and the debian.org/security page does include the line: You can use apt to easily get the latest security updates. This requires a line such as deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free and there is an update in that repository for mpg123 for Sarge, so it would appear that they do, but I might be wrong after all I am a n00b that's only used GNU/Linux for 5 years. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozilla-browser
I thought it was renamed to Iceape due to trademark issues with Mozilla Corp. with firefox (tm) to be renamed to iceweasel. See: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354622 On 10/31/06, Douglas Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 03:53:24PM -0600, Mike Reinehr wrote: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=382956 RM: mozilla -- Ro??; abandoned upstream; unmaintained; RC-buggy Thanks. I don't see seamonkey so I go with firefox for now. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: em64t
On 10/8/06, Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 09:15:44AM -0500, Gnu_Raiz wrote: It's now Intel 64, if that wasn't confusing enough. http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=34722 So intel went from IA-32e to EM64T to Intel 64! I guess you know why upstream left it amd64. I guess they suffer from the not invented here syndrome. For all those people who need to be special, you can always append-to-version when you compile your own kernel. But still it freaks out those who are not knowledgeable to see a Woodcrest, or Conroe running something saying amd64. You just got to love the irony in that. Does this mean intel wants their users even more confused by having Intel Architecture 64 and Intel 64 being two different incompatible things? We already had people asking if ia64 for was em64t systems. What a mess. I thought IA-32e was something entirely different (I thought that was PAE and such). Yes, but their marketing scheme is such that the majority of people that are going to purchase a new CPU will never have to know the difference. They'll just know that they're the best processors around... just like the ads say. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which package to play DVD's ???
I do NOT find any mention of copy protection on the three (3) DVD's that I am trying to play. well CSS (which is realy actually more an encryption then an copy protection) is seldomly mentioned but you will find very few dvd to buy (not self recorded) that do not use CSS). there is a package for libdvdcss though in the mentioned archive below (but be aware of the patent and dmca isussues involved with that lib...) Not to mention Fair Use, but consumer rights never entered into the argument, which should tell you what the MPAA is really after. What do you think? well, i personally user xine-ui or mplayer from deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main works like a charm for me and for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [POLL] To continue 64 or not?
Robert == Robert Isaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert That leaves you with two reasons to have a 32bit chroot, Robert hardly a headache but it is after all your choice. Myself I Robert have been using a 32bit chroot mainly for the video codices Robert and wine since before the release of Sarge and have not had a Robert single problem that wasn't my fault not to mention having the Robert best of both worlds, which is what the AMD64 architecture was Robert designed to provide. Question: How did you setup the 32 bit video codacs? Do you use the 64 bit mplayer or the 32 bit mplayer? Both, the 64 bit mplayer is installed in the 64bit environment along with the 32bit in the chroot with w32codecs from the debian-multimedia repository, also in the chroot. When I find a video that doesn't play 64bit native I open the 32bit version. For the sake of expediency I suppose it would be better to simply use the 32bit player and web-browsers, but opening and closing programs once in a great while does not disturb me in the least. Thanks for any help. Not a problem. Alan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [POLL] To continue 64 or not?
Firefox + Flash (Flash is 32-bit only) There are open alternatives that work 64 bit native (let's be honest, flash 7 is broken anyway what is the big deal if certain sites crash the player or won't play at all?) OpenOffice Understandable here, everyone needs an office suite but there is a 64 bit native version that may have a few bugs to work through, consider that version. Cedega Is a worthless pile of trash that has not changed enough in the past 1 1/2 years of my subscription to justify $5 a month, use WineHQ. It is free and works just as well if not better, so what if you have to download a fixed .exe to get around the copy protect? Do not buy into the false advertising that The Elder Scrolls 4 will run when it requires a third party patch to even start, not to mention a host of other issues that Transgaming has brought to the table. Wine see above. That leaves you with two reasons to have a 32bit chroot, hardly a headache but it is after all your choice. Myself I have been using a 32bit chroot mainly for the video codices and wine since before the release of Sarge and have not had a single problem that wasn't my fault not to mention having the best of both worlds, which is what the AMD64 architecture was designed to provide. On 8/31/06, Jack Malmostoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:20:09 +0200, Andrew Robinson wrote: Just looking for some constructive feedback on other's opinions. The answer is really easy: if you feel it's a pain then switch back to the 32bit. I am perfectly happy with my 64bit setup, but the only thing I need 32bit are OO.o and Opera, which is more than bearable. Not sure about the performance increase anyway, so maybe you are really better off with the 32bit Debian. Obviously IMHO :) -- Best Regards, Jack Linux user #264449 Powered by Debian PPC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash in firefox on amd64 -- revisted?
Every single Free flash plugin sucks is useless. That's about all there is to say on the matter right now A bit brutal, but I'm afraid it is correct. I had pretty good luck with libswfdec (meaning it didn't crash as often). Another good example on why closed formats (and not closed source) are bad. Adobe said they'll release a complete API with version 9 of the linux flash player, let's wait... HA! They also said they'd release an 8.5 player for GNU/Linux. I'll believe it when I see it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nvidia Texture corruption in quake4!
Two things, 1.) Quake 4 does not have a 64-bit executable, it only runs with 32 bit libs installed on your system, iD has yet to produce a 64 bit game. TTimo's view of the issue can be found here: http://www.linuxgames.com/?dataloc=articles/ttimo2006/ (second to last question) 2.) It is not a driver issue it is a Quake 4 issue, forward the problem to the Quake 4 devs. (Before the 1.3.2 patch I had no problem with the latest Nvidia drivers 1.0-8762 with Xorg 6.9 on Sarge, after the patch certain windows lose their transparency) On 8/19/06, Gnu-Raiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear: Fellow users; I am in need of advice, I am having the same problem with texture corruption, and not being able to run quake4-smp as I had in Ubuntu. Every other game I own runs fine ut2004 runs good, no texture corruption. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/47391 I am using the latest Nvidia drivers, and this was a fresh amd64 install from beta2 etch net iso's. I know that Ubuntu has solved the problem, when a few months later I installed the nvidia drivers with the ubuntu method. As later I did not have any texture problems, and quake4-smp would run without a problem. I don't know what changes they made, but I believe it is a Nvidia driver issue. I first tried the 32 chroot install of quake4, but it shows the exact problem I am having in the 64 bit version. I am able to run the quake4 exe in both the 32 bit, and 64 bit versions, but it shows much texture corruption, and is slow even with everything turned down low, such as no AA, no bump mapping, etc. Looking at my Xorg logs show's nothing out of the ordinary, also my kernel log shows nothing, or any errors regarding the graphics card. I am using the latest patches 1.3 and I can play for a short time but the corruption is two much for an extended time. Opty 165 Motherboard asrock dual sata 939 Nvidia 6600gt apg card Gnu_Raiz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question : grub commands
Yes, but with the inevitable corporate shake up that will occur in ATi's management at the upper levels because of the buyout, things will have to change. It's not like their drivers or their attitude towards GNU/Linux could get any worse. http://airlied.livejournal.com/31180.html On 8/16/06, Matteo Vescovi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/16/2006 03:24 AM, Robert Isaac wrote: That might change, though, now that AMD owns ATi. They _might_ release specs :-) http://news.com.com/2061-10791_3-6104655.html Mmhh, it seems like it won't change so soon. :-( Take care. mfv - -- Matteo Vescovi System Administrator Studio Vescovi Progettazioni -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE4t2IwpmiLhhMAcoRAgFFAJ49gUfstGRTyMDxtF06DWhAnpOCZQCffsz5 xzIsLp4Ssl1UeuUtvgnwhPE= =zU0q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question : grub commands
It gives that ATI sucks! :-) That's all. That might change, though, now that AMD owns ATi. They _might_ release specs :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian amd64 and linux certifications
On 7/25/06, Gnu-Raiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 25 July 2006 08:08, Christian Powers wrote: Anyone, I am currently a Debian only user at home and at work. Most of my computers are running 64bit kernels and of course the others are running 32bit systems and an ARM type system. I am currently working on gaining some official knowledge of Linux and actually having proof of it. I have been looking closely at going for the Linux + certification. I understand from reading a little online, that the test officially uses the RPM package manager, and thought I would pose this question to the group. Are there any other Linux certifications that would be either Linux generic (no special reference to .deb. or rpm, etc), or is the Linux + something that would be recommended? Any Ideas on Linux certifications would be greatly appreciated. I don't think there is a Debian specific certification, most places offer a general Linux certification. For instance CompTIA offers such a course. http://certification.comptia.org/linux/ Also another popular option that offers exams at various places can be found. http://www.lpi.org/en/home.html Not to mention a lot of local colleges, and Universities offer classes and some might do certification. A year or so ago I took an online class that used the compTIA book, called Linus+ Guide to Linux Certification. It was to prepare a person for the compTIA test. I got a good grade on the course but never took the official test. The information was a little dated, and focused mostly on general Linux terms. I have heard that they have a new book out, and some of the information have changed. Here is another link that might be of interest. http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/topics/linux/certification This is for the lpi I believe, but might link up to a local university, as I recall if you bought one of their books, you had an option to take an online course, then take an exam. I do think that these certifications might help you get a job, but the Kernel changes so quickly, and so do the applications that it might be limited in its use. I do think that being involved in a project would look even better. But I guess every little bit helps, regardless of how useful it is. Gnu-Raiz The lpi certification covers both .deb and .rpm package managers in its 101 test. Certifications are really just a way to get past HR and are generally meaningless beyond the resume. Good luck, though! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Java and firefox
On 7/24/06, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 10:56:53PM -0700, Rob Blomquist wrote: Exactly how does one get it running? I DL'd the x64 client from Sun, which recommends using the 32 bit client also for java script. I have downloaded both, putting the 32 bit client inside the chroot, and putting the 64 bit client in /usr/local/jre I have also put the location of the 64 bit client in my path, but to no avail? I pointed Konqueror at it, and its working fine. How can I get Firefox and Java to play together? Don't you need a Java plugin from Sun which only does 32 bit Firefoxen? (That and flash are the only reasons why I still do 32 bit Firefox in 64 bit land). I've been using the blackdown java plugin in 64bit with only minor annoyances, its not perfect, but java never was. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820http://www.ativel.com 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFExK1GdbAkQ4sp9r4RAkwWAJ9XSc1JD9CldgmHNaWivsBHZDYs8gCeLMJ+ tB5zVf0W8uIZI3NyD6VtjKw= =wART -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: running vncserver?
Hi It seems that the host you named doesn't accept any reuests Is there another way to retrieve the .debs? With kind regards Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Picasa
On 6/25/06, Nelson Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Klaus Becker wrote: Am Sonntag 28 Mai 2006 10:15 schrieb Nelson Menezes: Just to let people know that the new Picasa for Linux from Google (http://picasa.google.com/linux/) works fine in AMD64; just download the .deb from http://picasa.google.com/linux/thanks-deb.html and install it with dpkg -i --force-architecture .deb_file. All you should need is the ia32-libs package installed. right, but the fonts are very small. Did you get bigger fonts? greetings Klaus Mmmn, it looks fine here (by fine I mean that the fonts look the same size as the rest of the system). I think Picasa uses libwine internally, so it might be a setting in your wine configuration. I'm not great at understanding X/wine fonts, so I wouldn't know where to start looking... It uses a prepackaged wine, the font size problem should be reported to google. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installer error: Failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc
Could someone please please please help me? :-) I posted this to debian-user but I get the feeling it's actually an amd64 problem. I've spent about 8 hours on this now and it's causing me to pull my hair out. Googling seems to largely reveal a few people in the past who have had the same problem but no one has suggested the cause or a resolution :-( I'm trying to install Etch on a Dual Opteron 265 using the Tyan K8SRE motherboard. When I get to the stage of installing the base system it downloads all the packages then comes up with the error Debootstrap warning - Installer error: Failure trying to run: chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc and won't proceed any further. If I Alt-F4 it says: debootstrap: chroot: debootstrap: cannot execute mount debootstrap: : No such file or directory If I do 'chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc' I get: chroot: cannot execute mount: No such file or directory If I just 'mount' it lists the mounts ok. If I /target/mount it also lists the mounts ok. 'chroot /target' results in: chroot: cannot execute /bin/sh: No such file or directory Yet /bin/sh works as does /target/bin/sh ! This is on a RAID1 (md0) between 2 disks with an ext3 mount of / on the md0. Although it does the same thing if I just create a plain ext3 / on one disk. mount outputs this: tmpfs on / type tmpfs (rw) tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw, nodiratime) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw) tmpfs on /.dev type tmpfs (rw) /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 on /cdrom type iso9660 (ro) /dev/md/0 on /target type ext3 (rw,data=ordered) cat /target/fstab results in: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/md0 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/sda2 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/sdb2 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user, noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM I've tried the daily, weekly, and r2 etch installer :-( I really need to install the AMD64 port of Debian so using a i386 installer isn't an option (even if that would help). Immense gratitude to any kindly soul who saves me from my torment! -- -- Women are always right when they're /naked/ - Andrew Neil That's the only reason I am certain there is a God - because there are large breasted women - Warren Harper, Christian http://www.robhulme.com/ http://robhu.livejournal.com/
strange SIGSEV
Hi!
The following code seems to produce SIGSEV only on amd64 platforms (both on
GNU/Linux and on GNU/kFreeBSD). Anyone has an idea what is the portability
problem here?
Perhaps that buf is deallocated inmediately after getfoo() returns? I could
switch to strdup()/free() but I'd like to figure out what's going on first.
$ cat buffer.c
#include string.h
char *
getfoo()
{
static char buf[128];
strcpy (buf, foo);
return buf;
}
$ cat test.c
#include stdio.h
#include sys/param.h
#include sys/stat.h
main ()
{
printf (%s\n, getfoo ());
}
$ gcc -fPIC buffer.c -shared -o buffer.so gcc test.c -o test ./buffer.so
./test
Segmentation fault
$ gcc -fPIC -c buffer.c gcc test.c -o test buffer.o ./test
foo
Note: this currently breaks swap{on,off,ctl} on kfreebsd-amd64
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Re: strange SIGSEV
On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 04:23:41PM +0400, Serge Belyshev wrote: ^^ Typical 32bit BUG. You forgot to prototype getfoo(), so it become int getfoo (void) by default. int is 32 bit on amd64, but pointer is 64 bit, so you are calling printf() with truncated to 32bit pointer. Use -Wall to detect these errors: Ouch. Thanks :) -- Robert Millan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kfreebsd-amd64 base system ready
Hi again, I've built CD installer images for kfreebsd-amd64. You can install it normaly as a standalone system now. Check them out at: http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/install-cd/ The boot sequence is not as mature as in kfreebsd-i386 yet (fsck and ifup segfault), but you should have no trouble in setting up network manualy or via dhclient. As for the packages, thanks to Aurelien Jarno's porting/buildd efforts, we have a resonably complete set now (a few more than hurd-i386 at the moment): http://unstable.buildd.net/buildd/Installed_stats.png Enjoy! On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 05:00:28PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: Hi! For those who want to play with it, there's a Debian GNU/kFreeBSD system for amd64 now: http://io.debian.net/~rmh/amd64/ Its stage is very preliminar and only useful for developers. Instructions: - Install FreeBSD 6.0 for amd64, and setup network. - Extract /boot/kernel from kfreebsd-image-6.0-1-amd64-generic, and use it to replace the stock kernel from FreeBSD. - Get base.tgz and extract it somewhere. - Mount /dev (devfs) and /proc (linprocfs). - chroot and run /native-install. - Get /etc/passwd and /etc/group from a sane Debian system and copy them over (/etc/shadow is NOT needed). - Done. You should be able to install things via apt-get now. This is due to Petr Salinger who did all the actual work of porting Glibc and debugging it. Thanks a lot! -- Robert Millan -- Robert Millan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
