Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 07:22:10PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 * Kyle McMartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-15 14:18]:
  On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 06:28:11PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
   FWIW, I tried one today and the right kernel got installed.
  Awesome, can't wait for rc2 then
 
 There was no change... I'm sure it will install the right kernel if
 you try again.
 
 base-installer is quite fragile with regards to installing the kernel.
 Sometimes such things happen for no apparent reason.

Yes, indeed. Maybe it was not a good idea to merge the base and kernel
installers after all. Now, if kernel-package was debconfified, it would be
easier too.

Martin, did you do any work on nobootloader ? If not, and you tell me what are
the boot instructions needed for the different arm boxes that need it, i will
be glad to add the necessary code to it.

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Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-16 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-16 12:19]:
 Martin, did you do any work on nobootloader ? If not, and you tell me what are
 the boot instructions needed for the different arm boxes that need it, i will
 be glad to add the necessary code to it.

I've done it already.
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Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-15 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Kyle McMartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-13 21:32]:
 I guess I was expecting it to actually remind me. I'll do another
 install tomorrow afternoon est and try to trip it.

FWIW, I tried one today and the right kernel got installed.
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Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-15 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 06:28:11PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 FWIW, I tried one today and the right kernel got installed.
 
Awesome, can't wait for rc2 then

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Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-15 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Kyle McMartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-15 14:18]:
 On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 06:28:11PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
  FWIW, I tried one today and the right kernel got installed.
 Awesome, can't wait for rc2 then

There was no change... I'm sure it will install the right kernel if
you try again.

base-installer is quite fragile with regards to installing the kernel.
Sometimes such things happen for no apparent reason.
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Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-14 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Kyle McMartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-13 21:32]:
 I guess I was expecting it to actually remind me. I'll do another
 install tomorrow afternoon est and try to trip it.

No, it checks after you'r finishing partitioning and complains if it
wasn't done properly.

The documentation should say what you need (but of course it doesn't
do so yet).
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Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-14 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 05:28:09PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 No, it checks after you'r finishing partitioning and complains if it
 wasn't done properly.
 
 The documentation should say what you need (but of course it doesn't
 do so yet).

Excellent, in that case just the kernel is an issue.
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Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-13 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* tbm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-12 10:39]:
  Since the firmware can't mount ext2r0, it would be better if this
  was enforced more strictly, you almost certainly need a /boot
  partition.
 
 I'll put in some checks.

I just recalled that I wrote those checks already.  Did you not see
them and what exactly did you try to do?
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Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-13 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 12:05:05AM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 I just recalled that I wrote those checks already.  Did you not see
 them and what exactly did you try to do?
 
I'm not sure, I didn't bump into anything. I knew enought o make the
partition, so if I'm supposed to accidently trigger it, then I missed
it.

I guess I was expecting it to actually remind me. I'll do another
install tomorrow afternoon est and try to trip it.

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Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Kyle McMartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-08-11 21:51]:
 Installer installed riscstation kernel on my netwinder. As a result the
 machine did not come back after reboot.

Do you have /var/log/syslog?

 Also, if a /boot partition exists, could the vmlinuz symlink be put
 in /boot?

I think we could make that the default on ARM.

 Since the firmware can't mount ext2r0, it would be better if this
 was enforced more strictly, you almost certainly need a /boot
 partition.

I'll put in some checks.
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Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-12 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 09:51:31PM -0400, Kyle McMartin wrote:
 Package: installation-reports
 
 Debian-installer-version: rc1
 uname -a: nil
 Date: Wed, Aug 11, 2004
 Method: Netbooted netwinder from tftp
 
 Machine: corel netwinder
 Processor: intel sa110
 Memory: 64m
 Root Device: /dev/hda
 Root Size/partition table:
   /dev/hda1   20M ext2r0
   /dev/hda2   2G  ext3
   /dev/hda3   swap
 Output of lspci:
 ..
 
 Base System Installation Checklist:
 
 Initial boot worked:[O]
 Configure network HW:   [O]
 Config network: [O]
 Detect CD:  [O]
 Load installer modules: [O]
 Detect hard drives: [O]
 Partition hard drives:  [O]
 Create file systems:[O]
 Mount partitions:   [O]
 Install base system:[E]
 Install boot loader:[ ]
 Reboot: [O]
 [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
 
 Comments/Problems:
 
 Installer installed riscstation kernel on my netwinder. As a result the
 machine did not come back after reboot.
 
 Also, if a /boot partition exists, could the vmlinuz symlink be put in /boot?
 
 Due to the way the netwinder firmware works, it looks for a file on a
 partition, following symlinks. Since the vmlinuz symlink is on / it's useless
 because it's looking with /boot as it's base.
 
 Since the firmware can't mount ext2r0, it would be better if this was enforced more 
 strictly, you almost certainly need a /boot partition.

you don't have a boot loader, and thus use nobootloader to tell you the kernel
and stuff ? 

Can you try the daily builds, a see if the new nobootloader with explicit
/boot partition mention makes sense for you. 

Someone could even add explicit firmware instuctions, like it is done in the
powerpc/chrp_pegasos case.

But i agree that you probably need link_in_boot to be set.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-12 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 12:24:06PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 you don't have a boot loader, and thus use nobootloader to tell you the kernel
 and stuff ? 

Yes, but if I have my firmware already set to use /vmlinuz, it would be
much simpler to just put the symlink someplace where it's useful.

 Can you try the daily builds, a see if the new nobootloader with explicit
 /boot partition mention makes sense for you. 
 
Ok.

 But i agree that you probably need link_in_boot to be set.

Nod.

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Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-12 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 10:39:54AM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 Do you have /var/log/syslog?

I can fetch it, it will be mildly involved though.

 I think we could make that the default on ARM.

Alrighty.

 I'll put in some checks.

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Bug#265174: netwinder rc1 fail

2004-08-11 Thread Kyle McMartin
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: rc1
uname -a: nil
Date: Wed, Aug 11, 2004
Method: Netbooted netwinder from tftp

Machine: corel netwinder
Processor: intel sa110
Memory: 64m
Root Device: /dev/hda
Root Size/partition table:
/dev/hda1   20M ext2r0
/dev/hda2   2G  ext3
/dev/hda3   swap
Output of lspci:
..

Base System Installation Checklist:

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[ ]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Comments/Problems:

Installer installed riscstation kernel on my netwinder. As a result the
machine did not come back after reboot.

Also, if a /boot partition exists, could the vmlinuz symlink be put in /boot?

Due to the way the netwinder firmware works, it looks for a file on a
partition, following symlinks. Since the vmlinuz symlink is on / it's useless
because it's looking with /boot as it's base.

Since the firmware can't mount ext2r0, it would be better if this was enforced more 
strictly, you almost certainly need a /boot partition.

Regards,
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