FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
Hi Everybody , 


I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I
want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . 

Do you have any link about some test with Debian and athor OS, 
Please share you exprience with me .. 


Thanks 
Vahric MUHTARYAN


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RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
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-Original Message-
From: Sylvain Cauchon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:16 PM
To: Vahric MUHTARYAN
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:

 Hi Everybody , 
 
 
   I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I
 want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . 
 
   Do you have any link about some test with Debian and athor OS, 
 Please share you exprience with me .. 
 
 
 Thanks 
 Vahric MUHTARYAN
 
 
Dear Sir,
My experience has been with redhat and debian. Freebsd I have not much 
experience with and therefore cannot comment.
   Debian and redhat have different philosophies. Redhat being a 
commercial company is under pressure to release new versions of its os 
on a regular basis. Debian is a volunteer, non-commercial organization 
that releases software when it is ready. For the latest and greatest 
software choose redhat (now fedora) but for stable well tested software 
choose debian. The install of debian is somewhat more difficult for 
inexperienced users but the admin of debian machines is much simpler. 
Evaluate your needs honestly then repost and then we could be of more 
help  bye for now and good luck syl




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RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
Thanks, Where can I find last bugfixes or history of bugfix of Debian . 
Maybe you know FreeBSD is more clearly history then other OSs. 

I consider some things too, Does Debian end can be like Redhat and Suse ,
because after redhat , debian is really most used OS ?! 


Vahric 

-Original Message-
From: George Georgalis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:00:55PM -0500, George Georgalis wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:58:48PM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:
Hi Everybody , 


  I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I
want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . 

  Do you have any link about some test with Debian and athor OS, 
Please share you exprience with me .. 


I've not had time to look closely at this, but I've heard it's a
fair linux/bsd comparison

http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/

let me know if anyone sees an inaccuracy!

okay just took a closer look, it's bsd biased. but
if you want to know why BSD lovers love BSD you have
some good arguments, just remember, there is more
to Linux than in this article. Every OS/distro has
idiosyncrasies, weigh the benefits and choose the
idiosyncrasies you want to deal with. The author
obviously hasn't chosen Linux idiosyncrasies.

BTW - re RedHat vs Debian. RH is slanted more toward
GUI administration/philosophy while Debian allows you
a finer control but more controls are pushed to the
command line. Debian is easier/better for me but RH is
more popular in some industries, for example.


// George

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RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
Hi , I want to learn about Web Server Performans .. 

Because I tested ext3/jrn with redhat ( Debian use ext3 too ) and compare it
with UFS/Softupdate , at this moment I saw that ufs/SoftUpdate is working
more faster then ext3/jrn . 

Now I wonder only Web Server Perfomans of Debain ?! I'm checking netcraft I
could see too many FreeBSD and Linux machine which are have greate uptime
and answer response but I can find any information too much linux for which
distribuiton . 

I want to ask What is the end of Debain Does is it like RedHat ?! 

Thanks Again 
Vahric 

-Original Message-
From: Andrew M.A. Cater [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:30 AM
To: Vahric MUHTARYAN
Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:58:48PM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:
 Hi Everybody , 
 
 
   I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I
 want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . 

This sort of question is better on the debian user mailing list
([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

Red Hat - one of the longest established commercial distributions.

Widespread - well known.  Versions of Red Hat earlier than 8.0
are now at their end of life: Red Hat 9.0 will follow them to end of
life in April 2004.  This distribution now concentrates on the 
enterprise market. [Red Hat Advanced Server 3.0 in various versions]

Fedora is a project spun off from Red Hat.  This is the new distribution
intended for hobbyists and developers.  Changes made here may find their
way into the enterprise edition later.

Red Hat uses .rpm as its package format.

FreeBSD - long established. The BSD heritage is the basis of many 
mainstream versions of UNIX.  Different from Linux - not necessarily
better or worse, just different :)

Debian - free software, produced by non-commercial volunteers.  Well 
known. Uses .deb as its package format.  Noted feature: easy to upgrade
between releases.  Hard feature: the initial installation process.

 
   Do you have any link about some test with Debian and athor OS, 
 Please share you exprience with me .. 
 
Each of the above has strengths and weaknesses. What sort of things
do you need to know?

Andy



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FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
Hi Everybody , 


I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I
want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . 

Do you have any link about some test with Debian and athor OS, 
Please share you exprience with me .. 


Thanks 
Vahric MUHTARYAN




RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
For Web Server and Mail Server  

-Original Message-
From: Sylvain Cauchon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:16 PM
To: Vahric MUHTARYAN
Cc: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:

 Hi Everybody , 
 
 
   I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I
 want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . 
 
   Do you have any link about some test with Debian and athor OS, 
 Please share you exprience with me .. 
 
 
 Thanks 
 Vahric MUHTARYAN
 
 
Dear Sir,
My experience has been with redhat and debian. Freebsd I have not much 
experience with and therefore cannot comment.
   Debian and redhat have different philosophies. Redhat being a 
commercial company is under pressure to release new versions of its os 
on a regular basis. Debian is a volunteer, non-commercial organization 
that releases software when it is ready. For the latest and greatest 
software choose redhat (now fedora) but for stable well tested software 
choose debian. The install of debian is somewhat more difficult for 
inexperienced users but the admin of debian machines is much simpler. 
Evaluate your needs honestly then repost and then we could be of more 
help  bye for now and good luck syl






RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
Thanks, Where can I find last bugfixes or history of bugfix of Debian . 
Maybe you know FreeBSD is more clearly history then other OSs. 

I consider some things too, Does Debian end can be like Redhat and Suse ,
because after redhat , debian is really most used OS ?! 


Vahric 

-Original Message-
From: George Georgalis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:32 AM
To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 06:00:55PM -0500, George Georgalis wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:58:48PM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:
Hi Everybody , 


  I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I
want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . 

  Do you have any link about some test with Debian and athor OS, 
Please share you exprience with me .. 


I've not had time to look closely at this, but I've heard it's a
fair linux/bsd comparison

http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/

let me know if anyone sees an inaccuracy!

okay just took a closer look, it's bsd biased. but
if you want to know why BSD lovers love BSD you have
some good arguments, just remember, there is more
to Linux than in this article. Every OS/distro has
idiosyncrasies, weigh the benefits and choose the
idiosyncrasies you want to deal with. The author
obviously hasn't chosen Linux idiosyncrasies.

BTW - re RedHat vs Debian. RH is slanted more toward
GUI administration/philosophy while Debian allows you
a finer control but more controls are pushed to the
command line. Debian is easier/better for me but RH is
more popular in some industries, for example.


// George

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Linux Infrastructure, Security  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
Services, Multimedia and Metrics.   http://www.galis.org/george   


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RE: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

2004-01-19 Thread Vahric MUHTARYAN
Hi , I want to learn about Web Server Performans .. 

Because I tested ext3/jrn with redhat ( Debian use ext3 too ) and compare it
with UFS/Softupdate , at this moment I saw that ufs/SoftUpdate is working
more faster then ext3/jrn . 

Now I wonder only Web Server Perfomans of Debain ?! I'm checking netcraft I
could see too many FreeBSD and Linux machine which are have greate uptime
and answer response but I can find any information too much linux for which
distribuiton . 

I want to ask What is the end of Debain Does is it like RedHat ?! 

Thanks Again 
Vahric 

-Original Message-
From: Andrew M.A. Cater [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:30 AM
To: Vahric MUHTARYAN
Subject: Re: FreeBSD/ Redhat / Debian

On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:58:48PM +0200, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote:
 Hi Everybody , 
 
 
   I will be new user of Debian. For quick tour I want to learn and I
 want to get your advise about Comparing other OS with Debian . 

This sort of question is better on the debian user mailing list
(debian-user@lists.debian.org).

Red Hat - one of the longest established commercial distributions.

Widespread - well known.  Versions of Red Hat earlier than 8.0
are now at their end of life: Red Hat 9.0 will follow them to end of
life in April 2004.  This distribution now concentrates on the 
enterprise market. [Red Hat Advanced Server 3.0 in various versions]

Fedora is a project spun off from Red Hat.  This is the new distribution
intended for hobbyists and developers.  Changes made here may find their
way into the enterprise edition later.

Red Hat uses .rpm as its package format.

FreeBSD - long established. The BSD heritage is the basis of many 
mainstream versions of UNIX.  Different from Linux - not necessarily
better or worse, just different :)

Debian - free software, produced by non-commercial volunteers.  Well 
known. Uses .deb as its package format.  Noted feature: easy to upgrade
between releases.  Hard feature: the initial installation process.

 
   Do you have any link about some test with Debian and athor OS, 
 Please share you exprience with me .. 
 
Each of the above has strengths and weaknesses. What sort of things
do you need to know?

Andy