Re: mail-config?

2002-08-02 Thread Brian Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Baarda) writes:

 Though I use uw-imapd instead of Courier. The general consensus is Courier
 is better, but I went with uw-imapd because it was lighter, and I had
 legacy non-Maildir mailboxes.

 Courier is nearly 1MB installed including ssl and support packages, compared
 to 350K for uw-imapd-ssl. Courier uses a seperate authdaemon and
 serverdaemon, whereas uw-imapd uses the normal inetd. Courier looked like
 overkill for my system.

But how big are UW's c-client library files?  I'm pretty sure that,
including the protocol libraries, uw-imap ends up being larger than
courier.

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Re: mail-config?

2002-08-02 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 12:12:43AM -0400, Brian Nelson wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Baarda) writes:
 
  Though I use uw-imapd instead of Courier. The general consensus is Courier
  is better, but I went with uw-imapd because it was lighter, and I had
  legacy non-Maildir mailboxes.
 
  Courier is nearly 1MB installed including ssl and support packages, compared
  to 350K for uw-imapd-ssl. Courier uses a seperate authdaemon and
  serverdaemon, whereas uw-imapd uses the normal inetd. Courier looked like
  overkill for my system.
 
 But how big are UW's c-client library files?  I'm pretty sure that,
 including the protocol libraries, uw-imap ends up being larger than
 courier.

I was using the installed sizes as reported for the packages. In the case of
uw-imapd, there were no dependancies that were not already installed on my
system so I did not include them; libc-client-ssl2001, libc6, libpam0g,
libssl0.9.6, openssl.

For courier-imap-ssl, there were several packages that I would have to
install just for courier support so these were included; courier-imap,
courier-ssl, courier-base, courier-authdaemon. If you follow all the
dependancies, courier-imap-ssl includes all the dependancies of uw-imapd
except libc-client-ssl2001, which is 913kB... 

Hmm, looks like you are right... the only things on my system using
libc-client-ssl2001 is uw-imapd-ssl and ipopd-ssl. If you look at a
combined courier-pop-ssl+courier-imap-ssl vs ipopd-ssl+uw-imapd-ssl, they
come out pretty much the same, with courier perhaps being slightly in front.

However, I still feel a little uneasy about running a seperate authdaemon
and serverdaemon just for pop/imap.

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Re: mail-config?

2002-08-02 Thread Georg Lehner
Hello!

El jue, 01-08-2002 a las 22:44, Donovan Baarda escribió:
...
 courier-ssl, courier-base, courier-authdaemon. If you follow all the
 dependancies, courier-imap-ssl includes all the dependancies of uw-imapd
 except libc-client-ssl2001, which is 913kB... 
...

 However, I still feel a little uneasy about running a seperate authdaemon
 and serverdaemon just for pop/imap.
...

If you worry about used space and running lots of different software
consider qmail and pop3 to get mail off to the local network.

It does also work very well with dial-up lines, usind maildirsmtp.

You get all parts from one provider and the programs are astonishing
small.

Best regards,

Jorge-León




Re: mail-config?

2002-08-01 Thread Todd Charron
Hi,
  
  For me a mix of qmail and fetchmail worked beautifully until I got a
static (at which point fetchmail was no longer required).  I did it all
with one machine but if you really want you could use two (though I
don't see the point).  Fetchmail would retrieve the messages when
connected and qmail would handle the delivery.  All clients would then
connect to that box and retrieve their mail.  Hope this helps,

Todd


On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 16:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Debian people.
 
 reading this list for a few weeks I want to put foreward this mail-question.
 
 What should I install to get mail to work?
 I have a small network:
 -1 debian gateway
 -2 debian boxes
 -4 Win98 PC (sorry, the kids are teached at school with word, excel etc.)
 
 At the moment one of the Win98 collects all the mail through the 
 debian-gateway.
 
 What I want is that the gateway collects the mail from the ISP every time the 
 dial-in connection gets up
 and every PC collect its mail from the gateway (running iptables) when they 
 question the gateway for it.
 The gateway is NOT running as a DNS-server and uses NAT.
 
 What software needs to be installed on each machine?
 exim or postfix on the gateway?
 1 debianbox runs kde, is this sufficient for collecting and sending mail?
 1 debian box runs only bash/csh. What do I put here.
 What should be configured/changed on the WinPC's.
 
 In short. I don't ask how to configure exim/postfix/whatever but only what
 software to put where.
 
 Thank you all for your patients and help.
 Frank.
 
 
 
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Re: mail-config?

2002-08-01 Thread Lance Levsen

 What should I install to get mail to work?
 I have a small network:
 -1 debian gateway
 -2 debian boxes
 -4 Win98 PC (sorry, the kids are teached at school with word, excel etc.)

 Frank.

I'd suggest Postfix/Courier IMAP. If you have the mail hosted 
elsewhere on an POP or IMAP server then add fetchmail to get 
the mail and dump it into postfix. The clients should be 
able to handle logging into your imap to use their mail.

If you have mail directed to you then you'll probably have to 
setup DNS/Postfix/IMAP. 

I'd also suggest procmail just so each user can do what they 
want with their own mail delivery.

Cheers,
 
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Lance Levsen,
Systems Administrator,
PWGroup - Saskatoon





Re: mail-config?

2002-08-01 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 02:49:25PM -0600, Lance Levsen wrote:
 
  What should I install to get mail to work?
  I have a small network:
  -1 debian gateway
  -2 debian boxes
  -4 Win98 PC (sorry, the kids are teached at school with word, excel etc.)
 
  Frank.
 
 I'd suggest Postfix/Courier IMAP. If you have the mail hosted 
 elsewhere on an POP or IMAP server then add fetchmail to get 
 the mail and dump it into postfix. The clients should be 
 able to handle logging into your imap to use their mail.

ditto.

Though I use uw-imapd instead of Courier. The general consensus is Courier
is better, but I went with uw-imapd because it was lighter, and I had
legacy non-Maildir mailboxes.

Courier is nearly 1MB installed including ssl and support packages, compared
to 350K for uw-imapd-ssl. Courier uses a seperate authdaemon and
serverdaemon, whereas uw-imapd uses the normal inetd. Courier looked like
overkill for my system.

If I was starting from scratch, I'd probably go with Maildir and Courier
because of it's glowing reports.

 If you have mail directed to you then you'll probably have to 
 setup DNS/Postfix/IMAP. 
 
 I'd also suggest procmail just so each user can do what they 
 want with their own mail delivery.

ditto.

For DNS I'm using pdnsd, which is a light caching dns proxy with persistant
cache contents so it can serve cached DNS contents from bootup without
bringing up a link. It has good support for casual dialup, though I'm
actually using it for a perm link. The other thing it does that is nice is
it can serve up the contents of /etc/hosts via DNS, allowing you to very
simply create your own private DNS system, ideal for local masq'ed networks.

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