Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
--- Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 10:28:40AM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > > I'm willing to do an NMU if there really is a dpendency problem (and Chris > > doesn't object) but is there really a problem? > > > > I have libglib1.3-12 installed and I was also able to install the kde > > package without any dependency problems. Are you sure it is not just > > because your apt mirror is not up to date or something? > > This should be fixed in the dinstall today. There will be some other > issues that will be fixed once I upload the rest of the kde packages. > I hope that I will not be doing quite as much repackaging on the others > (except for kdebase). Hi Chris, I just did an apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get install kde on the Sid that had the error installing kde (the start of this thread), and it still has the same unmet dependency problems. So: I read about dinstall here dinstall can now announce packages & close bugs for you http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/debian-devel-199901/msg02650.html Does your statement "This should be fixed in the dinstall today." explicitly imply that that means when you (ccheney) do the dinstall that the packages relevant to the fix get uploaded to the debian package pool, and thus become available to Sid systems after they run apt-get update? Or, does your statement merely mean that the fix is installed in your own development system, and that for it to be available to the rest of us it still must be uploaded by you in a next step? So: did you do the dinstall? Is the fix now in the Sid package pool (and hence should have been available to my system when I did apt-get update)? If so - any idea why my Sid is still having this problem? If not - when (in # of days) do you think Sid systems will be able to install metapackage "kde"? TIA. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
Re: Konqueror, HTML forms, wrapping and font handling
I've noticed that some animated GIFs (whether a bug in Konqueror or by their poor design) seem to run without any delays btw frames, such that they go as fast as possible. Perhaps there ought to be a minimum delay to prevent this from happening, overriding the value stored in the GIF. On Wednesday 20 February 2002 23:57, Michael Sullivan wrote: > I sent an email to the Register about one of their pages > with animated gifs in an ad. Running debian / KDE/ > Konqueror, it instantly took my cpu load up to 100% and > it stayed there (at least on gkrellm) until I moved from > the page. The same page in Mozilla was at 50 -60% > > That would account for slow input or scrolling > > Funny, it was just one ad, and other pages that also had > animated gifs were only in the 3 - 4 % range > > on another machine (windows) the same page in IE had the > gif running MUCH slower
Re: Konqueror, HTML forms, wrapping and font handling
I sent an email to the Register about one of their pages with animated gifs in an ad. Running debian / KDE/ Konqueror, it instantly took my cpu load up to 100% and it stayed there (at least on gkrellm) until I moved from the page. The same page in Mozilla was at 50 -60% That would account for slow input or scrolling Funny, it was just one ad, and other pages that also had animated gifs were only in the 3 - 4 % range on another machine (windows) the same page in IE had the gif running MUCH slower
Re: Distibutions (was KDE Debian distribution)
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On Wednesday 20 February 2002 01:31 pm, Jens Benecke wrote:
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> Plus, Microsoft has started a really big FUD campaign about the GPL,
> which makes many vendors uneasy. At the same time they put stuff like
> "we have a right to know what is on your harddisk" in the EULA, and
> nobody seems to notice ...
BRAVO ZULU!!
At least I'm not the ONLY soul alive that noticed this and had alarm
flags/bells/whistles go off in his head!!
[rant]
I'm just a lowly American pion, but isn't Illegal sill illegal??? Why is
this company still allowd to do business??? What do they (M$) {or we the
users} have to do to get this elivated to the Omsa Bin Laden level?? How much
longer are we going to allow this company who's illegal (AND immoral) actions
threaten the world???!!!???
[/rant]
Jens, next time yer in the U.S., beer/dinner/whatever is on me! Thanks for
saying what I've felt for too long. (and yes, i fight them {personally} in
every way I can [including no longer supporting any of their 'server
systems'].
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Re: need help with kdm no.2
I have always added sessions in the past by editing the kdmrc file. On my system...I believe it is in /etc/kde2/kdm/kdmrc ...but dont quote me on it..its not right in from of me. In there...you will find a section labels sessions. Makes sure kde is listed as an option in there, you should see the other sessions that you can launch already. You might want to try starting kde from the command line just to make sure that it is working fine. try added startkde to an .xinitrc file in your homedirectory and then type startx brian - Original Message - From: "Mike Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: Re: need help with kdm no.2 > Sebastian I have kde installed, read my request again and maybe > you will understand my problem. > > On 20 Feb 2002, at 15:47, by way of Sebastian Heinlein wrote: > > > Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2002 15:24 schrieb Mike Carter: > > > Hi team, > > > 2nd attempt to get this answered, > > > how do I get debian stable to boot with kdm starting kde not any > > > other gui? I have tried to get it to run with kde on boot but no > > > success. I am obviously missing something important and possibly > > > basic. But I can't fix it. The debian user guide didn't help. > > > It told me to modify files which don't exist. Looking forward to > > > your > > > replies. > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > Mike > > > > Perhaps, you have to install KDE? > > http://kde.debian.net > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > cheers, > Mike > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: need help with kdm no.2
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 12:48 pm, Mike Carter wrote: > Sebastian I have kde installed, read my request again and maybe > you will understand my problem. > > On 20 Feb 2002, at 15:47, by way of Sebastian Heinlein wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2002 15:24 schrieb Mike Carter: > > > Hi team, > > > 2nd attempt to get this answered, > > > how do I get debian stable to boot with kdm starting kde not any > > > other gui? I have tried to get it to run with kde on boot but no > > > success. I am obviously missing something important and possibly > > > basic. But I can't fix it. The debian user guide didn't help. > > > It told me to modify files which don't exist. [snip] which files don't exist? perhaps you should start by acquiring them and completing the necessary modifications. ben
Re: need help with kdm no.2
Sebastian I have kde installed, read my request again and maybe you will understand my problem. On 20 Feb 2002, at 15:47, by way of Sebastian Heinlein wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2002 15:24 schrieb Mike Carter: > > Hi team, > > 2nd attempt to get this answered, > > how do I get debian stable to boot with kdm starting kde not any > > other gui? I have tried to get it to run with kde on boot but no > > success. I am obviously missing something important and possibly > > basic. But I can't fix it. The debian user guide didn't help. > > It told me to modify files which don't exist. Looking forward to > > your > > replies. > > > > > > cheers, > > Mike > > Perhaps, you have to install KDE? > http://kde.debian.net > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] cheers, Mike
Re: need help with kdm no.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wednesday 20 February 2002 06:24 am, Mike Carter wrote: > Hi team, > 2nd attempt to get this answered, > how do I get debian stable to boot with kdm starting kde not any > other > gui? I have tried to get it to run with kde on boot but no success. > I am obviously missing something important and possibly basic. > But I > can't fix it. The debian user guide didn't help. > It told me to modify files which don't exist. Looking forward to > your > replies. > > > cheers, > Mike Mike, The simpliest method (IMHO) is to remove all the other gui's from the machine. If there is NOTHING ELSE to boot, well, KDE wins!! :--) Make sense? - -- __ OutCast Computer Consultants of Central Oregon http://outcast-consultants.redmond.or.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] (541) 504-1388 Toll Free (866) 562-7160 Via IRC at; 205.227.115.251:6667:#OutCasts Via ICQ: UIN 138930 "Failure is not an option...it's bundled with Microsoft" -anonymous- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! "Software is like sex. They're both better when they're free!!" - Linus Torvalds "As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product." gawk; talk; nice; date; wine; grep; touch; unzip; touch; gasp; finger; gasp; lyx; mount; fsck; more; yes; gasp; umount; make clean; make mrproper; sleep. -- Just another *nix date --
Re: MIDI not working with Debian-KDE and new policy of reverting back to alsa-0.5
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Chris wrote: > > Do alsa-0.5 drivers actually work with libasound2 or > > should Daniel also revert libarts-alsa and libkmid-alsa > > to depend on libasound1 rather than libasound2 to be > > consistent with the changed (from when Ivan Moore was the > > maintainer) Debian-kde-alsa policy? Although I would > > prefer to see alsa-0.9 working with Debian-kde, I am > > willing to go along with a change back to alsa-0.5 so > > long as it is done consistently. But the dependency > > mixture we have now on both alsa-0.5 and alsa-0.9 > > libraries is not right, and might be the source of my > > midi troubles. > > As far as Woody is concerned, I think it would be > absolutely asinine to revert to alsa-0.5 considering how > far 0.9 has come. I'm all for policies that ensure > stability, but in my experience, alsa-0.9 works fine for > most people. Any advanced users are going to want 0.9 > anyways and people running servers don't care about > sound. Furthermore, what is now "alsa-0.9" is now in the > 2.5 kernel and I suppose you could say that alsa-1.0 is > going to be in the 2.6 kernel eventually. Is this going to > cause problems for people using alsa-0.5 libraries? If so, > I think this choice is clearly wrong. I agree, but Daniel is a volunteer so we have to gently coax him to do the right thing;-) Already, there are signs that the Debian maintainer of alsa is moving completely to 0.9 (or 1.0). The default packages (without suffix version numbers) are 0.9 while the special packages have a suffix of 0.5. So in any case I think the alsa-dependent Debian-KDE packages will soon be forced to go completely to 0.9 as well. For now, I would be satisfied if we either support 0.5 or 0.9, but having kmix depend on a 0.5 library and kmid depend on a 0.9 library (and optionally the 0.5 libesd-alsa0 library) is clearly wrong. The bottom line is that on my machine pmidi works fine, but kmid does not. Furthermore, nobody has reported a success with the current kmid (either with alsa 0.5, alsa 0.9 or even OSS drivers), and the previous (6 months ago was the last time I tested) Debian kmid worked fine. Therefore, I suspect that the current kmid build has been misconfigured, and if so I hope that Daniel gets that straightened out. Alan email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 250-727-2902 FAX: 250-721-7715 snail-mail: Dr. Alan W. Irwin Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Victoria, P.O. Box 3055, Victoria, British Columbia, Canada, V8W 3P6 __ Linux-powered astrophysics __
Re: Distibutions (was KDE Debian distribution)
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 14:33, Michel Loos wrote: > > B) Games. Kids had absolutely no problems spending WEEKS trying > >to customize CONFIG.SYS, installing new memory managers, > >hacking their system to get more free RAM, just for DOOM to > >be 0.2% faster. > >They will become the ultimate Linux cracks if the goal is > >there. You just can't impress a 13-old with an ultra-fast > >and stable Apache. > > > >I couldn't care less about games, but I know a LOT of people > >who would switch to Linux today if they could play games > >there. > > 100% correct. Apple lost the Macintosh-PC war because most of the games > running on "serious" machines (that was the time where there were a lot > of 8bit home computers + the Amiga as pure diversion computers) came out > on PC before (if ever) on Mac. > > When Games will be put on the market at the same timeon Linux and > Windows. Linux will win, because in addition it is more "serious". Still I think also OLD games should be playable under linux, I'd still like to play games from the 80's once in a while. I have an old pentium for that at the moment. I have tried to run them under dosemu, but boy is that slow. Simcity is not al all playable. Larry I won't even walk two steps in a minute! Bastiaan
Re: need help with kdm no.2
Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2002 15:24 schrieb Mike Carter: > Hi team, > 2nd attempt to get this answered, > how do I get debian stable to boot with kdm starting kde not any > other > gui? I have tried to get it to run with kde on boot but no success. > I am obviously missing something important and possibly basic. > But I > can't fix it. The debian user guide didn't help. > It told me to modify files which don't exist. Looking forward to > your > replies. > > > cheers, > Mike Perhaps, you have to install KDE? http://kde.debian.net
need help with kdm no.2
Hi team, 2nd attempt to get this answered, how do I get debian stable to boot with kdm starting kde not any other gui? I have tried to get it to run with kde on boot but no success. I am obviously missing something important and possibly basic. But I can't fix it. The debian user guide didn't help. It told me to modify files which don't exist. Looking forward to your replies. cheers, Mike
Re: Konqueror, HTML forms, wrapping and font handling
- Original Message - From: "Jens Benecke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:26 AM Subject: Re: Konqueror, HTML forms, wrapping and font handling >> 2.1. Another thing that has been annoying me in the latest versions >> is that if there is ever a textarea with animated .gif's on the same >> page, text input is *extremely* laggy, sometimes it takes up to a >> second for a character I type to be displayed on the screen, and >I have seen this but I haven't yet blamed it on animated .gifs. I'll >have to watch for this. I don't know if its just animated gifs, I usually get strange lag on googles front page, it always reminds me of a really laggy ssh connection, ie i type what i want, wait a while and then it shows up and i hit enter. speaking of which, if the edit box hasn't caught up with me and i hit tab it adds a character to the edit box not the normal action of changing the form forus to the next element.
Re: Distibutions (was KDE Debian distribution)
> Two things need to be done: > > A) Preloading. Persuade Dell or Compaq to load Linux on *ALL* > machines (and sell Windows as an optional upgrade). > That helps for business machines. > B) Games. Kids had absolutely no problems spending WEEKS trying > to customize CONFIG.SYS, installing new memory managers, > hacking their system to get more free RAM, just for DOOM to > be 0.2% faster. > They will become the ultimate Linux cracks if the goal is > there. You just can't impress a 13-old with an ultra-fast > and stable Apache. > > I couldn't care less about games, but I know a LOT of people > who would switch to Linux today if they could play games > there. > 100% correct. Apple lost the Macintosh-PC war because most of the games running on "serious" machines (that was the time where there were a lot of 8bit home computers + the Amiga as pure diversion computers) came out on PC before (if ever) on Mac. When Games will be put on the market at the same timeon Linux and Windows. Linux will win, because in addition it is more "serious". Michel.
Re: icq client
>>> please cc me - I'm offlist <<< Am Montag, 11. Februar 2002 21:10 schrieb G. L. `Griz' Inabnit: > > > > > I tried licq (both, testing and unstable version) icq client, > > but it doesn't seem to run propely. I can logon but nobody > > sees me and I`m not able to download my user list. > > > > Is there anything I can do to fix that or is there better icq > > client? > > We have been experiencing some 'strange behavior' also with the packaged > version of licq for sid (1.0.4-ssl). You could be dealing with a > combination of errors. Can you add anyone to your list (one at a time) and > get a connection to them? Are you firewalled? (yours or someone elses?) > > /me is waiting for licq 1.1.0 to be packaged for Debian!! :--) It seems that I can logon to ICQ and I added some people manually but I wasn't neither able to cummunicate with them nor could I retrieve their user informations or something. They're all displayed if they were offline (they were online). I tried to send them a message, but the message window closed after pressing 'send' (normal?) and of course I didn't get any response. Christian
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:21:04AM -0800, ben wrote: > On Wednesday 20 February 2002 01:16 am, Daniel Stone wrote: > > While I appreciate your support, sometimes I think you overplay the > > maintainers' stocks a little bit. :) > > > > When we take on a package, we take on the responsibility of maintaining > > it ... given, we might not be able to do an absolute perfect job, but we > > did say we'd do a job, and so we should always endeavour to do it, when > > reasonable. > > > given that the product of your willingness to take on those responsibilities > results in a pure win for those of us who reap the benefit, it just plain > pisses me off when some arrogant asshole tries to assert an obligation on > your (collective) part solely in order to assauge his solely personal > interests at the expense of according appreciation where it's deserved. as > someone who accrues the benefit of your work, at absolutely no cost to > myself, it seems to me that the least i can do, in return, is to bring that > fool's attention to the idea that his attitude is pitiable. I don't mind people passively doing nothing, but active demands and hostility are always shithouse. Good: "Hi, I notice you haven't got KDE3b2 debs yet. Is there a reason for this, or do you just need help, and what with?". Bad: "Where are the KDE3b2 debs? I need them!!". > along with that, i'd like to add that you may not be aware of the fact that > there are a whole big lot of people out here who are, really, just plain > users, who don't necessarily have any other ambition than to run a small home > or office system that might even do nothing other than give us the freedom to > revel in our (debian-enabled) supremely functional independence of ms'ed up > operating systems. from your humble response, it kinda sounds like not enough > of us have been showing up to say thanks. that's really all that this is > about. I don't mind that users don't really say thanks, I don't even mind if developers and debian-kde people say thanks or not ... it's always appreciated, but not essential. The best thing people can do is offer to help. That's the best thanks a maintainer can ever get. > kde is primarily a single user oriented environment, and, as far as i know, > none of the maintainers have commited themselves to any responsibility beyond > that, such as to specifically accommodate enterprise or even development > oriented interests--not that you neglect those users, either. but, > consequently, the majority of those who gain by your efforts are the regular > folks who have made--given the context of their origin as discouraged > windon't users--a comparable effort in risking all that was familar, however > repugnant, to embrace a system where, rightly, there is no-one to blame but > oneself in the event of any of the common usage problems that might arise. > nonetheless, you guys continually cover our asses, getting us, as solidly as > you can, back up when we thought that we were down. that, to my mind, > deserves far more appreciation than scorn. My focuses (focii? foca?) are: a) end-user, b) development. As someone who writes KDE apps myself (mainly in-house, sadly), Of course, if something breaks, then that becomes the first priority - squashing important bugs. An example was the libpng fiasco, which broke everything: that became our first priority over everything (in KDE, not in life). > if that's too much, sorry. Don't apologise. You'll grow old and bitter very quickly. :) -d -- Daniel Stone<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BTW, guys, imagine you were newbies ;) and read www.debian.org/distrib/ tell me if anything bugs your newbie self Joy: bash: www.debian.org/distrib/: No such file or directory not THAT kind of newbie. :) pgpabP291H85u.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 01:16 am, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 12:27:25AM -0800, ben wrote: > > just give it up. redeem yourself (if, indeed, you have any intent to do > > so) by conceding that the only necessary obligation--in this case, of > > gratitude and respect owed by the benficiaries of the unpaid labor of > > others--exists on the side of the users towards the maintainers, and not > > the other way around. > > While I appreciate your support, sometimes I think you overplay the > maintainers' stocks a little bit. :) > > When we take on a package, we take on the responsibility of maintaining > it ... given, we might not be able to do an absolute perfect job, but we > did say we'd do a job, and so we should always endeavour to do it, when > reasonable. > given that the product of your willingness to take on those responsibilities results in a pure win for those of us who reap the benefit, it just plain pisses me off when some arrogant asshole tries to assert an obligation on your (collective) part solely in order to assauge his solely personal interests at the expense of according appreciation where it's deserved. as someone who accrues the benefit of your work, at absolutely no cost to myself, it seems to me that the least i can do, in return, is to bring that fool's attention to the idea that his attitude is pitiable. along with that, i'd like to add that you may not be aware of the fact that there are a whole big lot of people out here who are, really, just plain users, who don't necessarily have any other ambition than to run a small home or office system that might even do nothing other than give us the freedom to revel in our (debian-enabled) supremely functional independence of ms'ed up operating systems. from your humble response, it kinda sounds like not enough of us have been showing up to say thanks. that's really all that this is about. kde is primarily a single user oriented environment, and, as far as i know, none of the maintainers have commited themselves to any responsibility beyond that, such as to specifically accommodate enterprise or even development oriented interests--not that you neglect those users, either. but, consequently, the majority of those who gain by your efforts are the regular folks who have made--given the context of their origin as discouraged windon't users--a comparable effort in risking all that was familar, however repugnant, to embrace a system where, rightly, there is no-one to blame but oneself in the event of any of the common usage problems that might arise. nonetheless, you guys continually cover our asses, getting us, as solidly as you can, back up when we thought that we were down. that, to my mind, deserves far more appreciation than scorn. if that's too much, sorry. ben
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Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 12:27:25AM -0800, ben wrote: > just give it up. redeem yourself (if, indeed, you have any intent to do so) > by conceding that the only necessary obligation--in this case, of gratitude > and respect owed by the benficiaries of the unpaid labor of others--exists on > the side of the users towards the maintainers, and not the other way around. While I appreciate your support, sometimes I think you overplay the maintainers' stocks a little bit. :) When we take on a package, we take on the responsibility of maintaining it ... given, we might not be able to do an absolute perfect job, but we did say we'd do a job, and so we should always endeavour to do it, when reasonable. -d -- Daniel Stone<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who needs a girlfriend i have a tamagotchi pgpo7yTRNi3oc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
On Tuesday 19 February 2002 10:30 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped, due to sheer irrelevance] for someone allegedly so concerned with detail and precision, neither your repost nor the archive link which you allege provides evidence of having included a quote of my post, actually, do that. just give it up. redeem yourself (if, indeed, you have any intent to do so) by conceding that the only necessary obligation--in this case, of gratitude and respect owed by the benficiaries of the unpaid labor of others--exists on the side of the users towards the maintainers, and not the other way around. why do you persist in making such an ass of yourself? i will, given proper indication of such effort, acknowledge any attempt that you make to offer redress for the offence you have caused. until then, i see absolutely no point to a continuance of this communication. ben
Tips on CUPS + KDE + Debian Testing NOTE: long msg!
I recently decided to install CUPS on my main linux box with the eventual goal of making it a print-server for the rest of my home LAN. I was sucessful in getting it going on the single machine because of questions asked by others on the Debian-KDE and Debian-Users mailing lists. Getting it going on a single machine has been discussed in previous messages, so I won't dwell on that aspect of it except to make a few notes: 1. The cupsys-driver-gimpprint package is EXCELLENT. It supports a wide variety of printers, and of all the printer drivers I have tried, it far excels in the quality of printing on my HP 960c inkjet. Highly recommeded! BEWARE! This package comes in several languages & ALL are installed. The "en" is the second selection from the top, and is NOT diferentiated as such during the KDE printer config. You can only see the differences if you use the "localhost:631" method to configure your printer. 2. If you are going to be in a "mixed" system that involves some lpr systems, you might want to pay close attention during the install to the question about setting cupsysd "suid root". My LAN is/will be straight CUPS, so it didn't make much difference. You also want to install the cupsys-bsd package. 3. A fully-functional CUPS + KDE install in Debian Testing will require the following packages: cupsys, cupsys-client, cupsys-pstorastor, libcupsys2, and kdelibs3-cups. If you want lpr/bsd compatability with other printing systems, you should add cupsys-bsd. 4. The KDE "Control Center -> System -> Printing Manager" tool is EXCELLENT. About all you have to do to get a running system is select CUPS as your printing system at the bottom, and add your printer. This will bring up a wizard that will lead you through all the steps. This is the series of screens that will show you about 4 available gimpprint drivers that all look the same. They are not... select the second one from the top if you want English or check it with the http screens available at "localhost:631". After I got CUPS running on a single machine, I turned my attention to getting it on my LAN as the LAN printer. I wandered around in the desolate wilderness of the documentation for about a week without any progress. I finally yelled for help on the Debian-Users mailing list, and a kind soul guided me through a MANUAL config for the network. After I got it going, I re-traced my steps, and again, the KDE Printing Manager proved to be the BEST tool to set it up. Here are the steps: 1. Pull up the Printing Manager and click on the "Configure Server" Icon. 2 Accept the default settings EXCEPT for the below steps: 3. Check the "Enable Browsing" on the "Browsing" screen. 4. Go to the "Security" screen. In the "Resources" box, you should find two entries already there.. one for "Root" and another for "Administration". Click on "add" and select your printer's name (lp?) from the pull-down resource menu. Click on the "Access" tab and put your LAN IP number in the "Allow" box (i.e. 192.168.10.*) and "ALL" in the "Deny" box The order should be "Deny, Allow". Click OK to save the changes. 5. Restart the server... there is a button for it to the left of the "Configure Server" icon. At this point remote computers running CUPS will list your printer and you can set it to be the "default" on the remote systems. Check out everything by printing test pages. I hope these ruminations will prevent others from the aimless wandering and editing of various conf files that I did. I appologize to those who think I have wasted their time. Cheers, -Don Spoon-
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
Since when have maintainers been allowed to have a social life? :-) Seriously...thanks for all the great work guys. I am very dependent on, and happy with the packages you provide, and I know several friends not anywhere near an official Debian list that are in the same position. Brian On Monday 18 February 2002 05:17 am, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 02:00:04AM -0800, Derek Gladding wrote: > > On Monday 18 February 2002 01:36 am, ben wrote: > > > On Monday 18 February 2002 12:43 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Ok > > > > ccheney is MIA for > 1 week with no advance notice of planned > > > > absence > > > > > > [stuff] > > > > Seconded. (well put, ben) > > . > > I couldn't agree more. I wonder how many people on this list would like > to be the Debian KDE maintainer for a while and then try to maintain a > social and school life next to that. > > Come on now, don't all volunteer at once. ;) > > d
Re: Distibutions (was KDE Debian distribution)
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 00:17, Gregor Zeitlinger wrote: <> Well build your own kde based distribution! Shouldn't be to hard. And if your right you will have a winning product, can become milionair, etc. I agree people don't want to hear about al these versions of this and versions of that, but it is what linux is about. You can should which version you think is most stable and use it. Bastiaan
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
The first sentence in my previous message should have been: I have read your message (below). not > I have ready your message (below). __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
Re: What's best quick fix for broken kde metapackage?
Hi ben, I have ready your message (below). I am sending you this note because, based on your very last comment below, I am concerned that somewhere along the communication channel part of the message I sent to you did not get to you. (See below.) --- ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 19 February 2002 03:01 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi ben, > > > > I read your message with some interest. In order to help me give you a > > response on par with your interest, will you please provide me some > > clarification about some things that are ambiguous to me about your > > message? TIA. > > > ... > > PS: I am very busy currently, but I will make an effort to respond to you > > within a week of your reply, at most, and perhaps within a few days. > > > > solely out of a consideration that you seem to be unable to exert for the > benefit of others, i accept that you are, for whatever reason, but, > nonetheless, by your own admission, possibly unable to respond to this > promptly. > > as for your inability to properly interpret my intentions, i can only say > that the ambiguity you suggest was a part of my post to you is a further > product of your arrogance. you are rude. you are obnoxious. you assume a > position of special entitlement without the slightest attempt to accord > respect to those to whom respect is due. on the basis of constructing a > howto, you assume the right to exact obligations of notice from those whose > proven efforts far exceed anything you offer. you render accusations of > delinquency that are entirely unwarranted and unjustified. > > is this clear enough? is there a trace of ambiguity here? > > you owe chris cheney an apology. you owe the list an apology for your > attempted disparagement of the effort he invests in what he does. your > attempt to assert obligation where none exist is antithetical to the whole > premise of what debian is about. > > as to whether or not i wanted a response to the original questions, the > answer is yes, i do want a considered response to > those questions--which, i > notice, you haven't taken the effort to quote. That last statement does not make sense to me. I did quote them. (It appears in my message, at the end, after a line of "="'s.) The quote came through to me in the bounce of my message, through the list, back to me. It is also clearly shown in Konq at the archive page: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2002/debian-kde-200202/msg00200.html I mention this because if someone reading my message did not see that part, they would have an incomplete understanding of that message. In order for me to get you the best considered response possible, please re-check my message in your mail program, and on that web page. Please then reply to this message letting me know either: 1) That you do now see that I quoted your full message, and the method I used in doing so, or 2) clarifying your statement above. Thanks. > > ben __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
