starting Linux through tftp

2002-11-04 Thread Regeci Zoltan Csaba
Hello,

is it possible to start Linux through a tftp server?  I mean not the
installation program, but the installed Linux itself?
How can I create a tftp image and pass kernel arguments to it?

Please tell me where can I find documentation on this.

Thanks,
Csaba




Pine (pico?)

2002-11-04 Thread iudicium ferat

I guess I will likely be beaten for asking - but ...

Is there some significance as to there not being a pine package in the
Debian distro?  I did some looking and apparently it is lacking - not just
for Sparc but for all platforms?

OK, I am not a wuss I am learning vim and emacs better, but I just was
wondering if maybe I am not looking correctly or if there is another reason
that pine is missing?

???
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Re: Pine (pico?)

2002-11-04 Thread Blars Blarson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is there some significance as to there not being a pine package in the
Debian distro?  I did some looking and apparently it is lacking - not just
for Sparc but for all platforms?

Pine and pico are not available for legal reasons.  (redistribution of
modified versions not allowed)

OK, I am not a wuss I am learning vim and emacs better, but I just was
wondering if maybe I am not looking correctly or if there is another reason
that pine is missing?

If you like pico, you should be happy with nano as an editor.  (Nano drove
me up a wall when it was installed as the default editor, had word-wrap
enabled, and I needed to edit /etc/apt/sources.list .)

Further discussion of alternatives should go on debian-user.

Legal discussions should go on debian-legal.  You can look up the discussion
of pine in the archives of debian-legal.


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Re: Pine (pico?)

2002-11-04 Thread Mark T. Valites
The pine license is why's it's not in debian.

However, if you have non-free deb sites in your sources.list, you can
build the deb yourself - apt-get source pine

On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, iudicium ferat wrote:


 I guess I will likely be beaten for asking - but ...

 Is there some significance as to there not being a pine package in the
 Debian distro?  I did some looking and apparently it is lacking - not just
 for Sparc but for all platforms?

 OK, I am not a wuss I am learning vim and emacs better, but I just was
 wondering if maybe I am not looking correctly or if there is another reason
 that pine is missing?

 ???
 -Bill-  :]
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 Three virtues of community  : diligence, patience, humility
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Re: starting Linux through tftp

2002-11-04 Thread Matthew H. Ray

--- Regeci Zoltan Csaba [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hello,
 
 is it possible to start Linux through a tftp server?
  I mean not the
 installation program, but the installed Linux
 itself?
 How can I create a tftp image and pass kernel
 arguments to it?
 
 Please tell me where can I find documentation on
 this.

You will want to look into the Linux Terminal Server
Project (www.ltsp.org) and read the Network Boot and
Exotic Root HOWTO
(http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Network-boot-HOWTO/index.html).
 I'm booting linux boxes with TFTP images on x86, but
I imagine it's gotta be possible for sparc.

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Re: starting Linux through tftp

2002-11-04 Thread Robert Ian Smit
* Regeci Zoltan Csaba [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-11-2002 13:29]:
 is it possible to start Linux through a tftp server?  I mean not the
 installation program, but the installed Linux itself?
 How can I create a tftp image and pass kernel arguments to it?
 
 Please tell me where can I find documentation on this.

Perhaps use Google with search terms like netboot or diskless
(client).

I have never done anything like that so I can't be more specific,
but I remember seeing documentation about this when I created an
install server for my Sun.

Bob



Sound on Ultra 30

2002-11-04 Thread J
Hey all.

I've got debian 3 stable running on an Ultra 30, and most everything is
rosy.

Has anyone been successful in getting sound working on these?  Is it a known
problem?  I checked the archives, but saw nothing specific, and tinkering
with the current set of kernel modules (2.4.18) i didn't find anything that
helped.

Thanks for any help.

~j



Re: starting Linux through tftp

2002-11-04 Thread Steve Haavik
It looks like it's supported (sort of), but I've never tried it.

Section 6.8 at
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch-partitioning.en.html

has a small amount of info.



Re: starting Linux through tftp

2002-11-04 Thread AUSTIN MURPHY
There is nothing special about creating the tftp image.  Just take a
regular kernel and convert it from ELF to a.out format, using the
elftoaout tool.

The (sort of) tricky part is getting the TFTP server to serve it.
I have some related information at:
http://toolbox.rutgers.edu/~amurphy/fai/fai-howto

For help on your question see the sections labeled:
Boot Process Explained,
RARP Config, 
TFTP Config.

The Open Prom can pass along arguments to the kernel.

Austin Murphy

Student Systems Programmer
Rutgers University


On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Regeci Zoltan Csaba wrote:

 Hello,

 is it possible to start Linux through a tftp server?  I mean not the
 installation program, but the installed Linux itself?
 How can I create a tftp image and pass kernel arguments to it?

 Please tell me where can I find documentation on this.



Re: Adding new ethernet card to Sun20

2002-11-04 Thread Roger Mialkowski
I assume you already did a touch /reconfigure and then rebooted or a boot 
-r from the ok prompt?



From: Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: todd.sarratt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: debian-sparc@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Adding new ethernet card to Sun20
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:45:00 -0500


 I'm sure I'm missing something very obvious.  What is it?


Sounds to me like it is not being probed by a proper driver. Try doing:

ifconfig -a

If you don't see eth2, it isn't initialized by the kernel.

Try looking at dmesg | less for signs of a problem. Also, at the OBP
prompt do probe-sbus-all to make sure it is being detected.

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Re: Sound on Ultra 30

2002-11-04 Thread Rob Walsh
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 11:45:35AM -0600, J wrote:

 I've got debian 3 stable running on an Ultra 30, and most everything
 is rosy.

 Has anyone been successful in getting sound working on these?  Is it
 a known problem?  I checked the archives, but saw nothing specific,
 and tinkering with the current set of kernel modules (2.4.18) i
 didn't find anything that helped.

I'm not sure about the hardware in an Ultra 30, but it's probably
similar enough to Ultra 1 and 10, which I have working.  

Make sure the cs4231 module is loaded.  Then compare the output of
'audioctl -a' on your box to mine (below).  Specifically, check
'output_muted', 'play.gain', and 'play.port'.  For some reason, kernel
2.4.x seems to come up muted, where 2.2.x didn't.

Later,
  Rob.

'audioctl -a':

name=SUNW,CS4231
version=a
config=onboard1
encodings=not yet implemented
monitor_gain=0
output_muted=0
play.rate=44100
play.channels=2
play.precision=16
play.encoding=linear_be
play.gain=128
play.balance=0
play.port=0x1 (speaker (0x1))
play.avail_ports=0x7 (speaker (0x1)|headphone (0x2)|line out
(0x4)|line_out (0x4))
play.samples=4096
play.eof=0
play.pause=0
play.error=0
play.waiting=0
play.open=0
play.active=0
play.buffer_size=0
record.rate=44100
record.channels=2
record.precision=16
record.encoding=linear_be
record.gain=0
record.balance=32
record.port=0x0 ()
record.avail_ports=0x47 (microphone (0x1)|line in (0x2)|line_in
(0x2)|internal cd (0x4)|internal_cd (0x4)|analog loopback
(0x40)|analog_loopback (0x40))
record.samples=0
record.eof=0
record.pause=0
record.error=0
record.waiting=0
record.open=0
record.active=0
record.buffer_size=0
record.errors=0


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Re: Sound on Ultra 30

2002-11-04 Thread morgothan

In a Land far away J wrote:
 Hey all.

 I've got debian 3 stable running on an Ultra 30, and most everything is
 rosy.

 Has anyone been successful in getting sound working on these?  Is it 
a known

 problem?  I checked the archives, but saw nothing specific, and tinkering
 with the current set of kernel modules (2.4.18) i didn't find 
anything that

 helped.

 Thanks for any help.

 ~j



Yeah I have it working on mine.  The one thing I remember having a 
problem with it is that for what ever reason if i have sound card 
support enabled it wouldnt work.  You just need Audio support under 
sparc audio and the cs4231 modules.  Hope that helps.


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Could someone help with XFree86 on an Ultra 10.

2002-11-04 Thread John Telek
Hi all,

I have a nicely speced Ultra 10 here at home and have installed debian woody
on it.
The machines specs are as follows.

Sun Ultra 10
440Mhz US2i
512M ram
2 x 20G HDD
CDROM
21 dual input Sun Trinitron monitor
Elite 3D M6 frame buffer.

My problem is I cant get a working XF86Config-4
I wanto to just use teh Elite 3D for now with a view to go dual screens
later on.

I have installed afbinit and it is initialising the frame buffer.

Doesn't matter what config I try, I get the following error.

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 10. Server aborting

Any help pointers or config files would be greatly appreciated.

In Desperation,
  John Telek



Re: Could someone help with XFree86 on an Ultra 10.

2002-11-04 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:42:33 +1100
John Telek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My problem is I cant get a working XF86Config-4
 I wanto to just use teh Elite 3D for now with a view to go dual screens
 later on.
 Doesn't matter what config I try, I get the following error.

 Fatal server error:
 Caught signal 10. Server aborting

Sounds pretty much identical to an U10 I have running Woody.  Could you maybe
post your XF86Config for us?  I can compare it to mine tomorrow (unfortunately
the machine in question is running Solaris at this second and it's six miles
away so I can't easily boot it into linux).  Assuming nobody solves your problem
before then!

AJ



Sun Blade 100 config

2002-11-04 Thread Warren Hughes
Hi all, I am trying to get Woody running on my Sun Blade 100. I am
having no end of problems. Have upgraded to the latest OBP/POST. It
seems the only kernel I can get to boot (without MMU Miss problems) is:

http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/3.0.23-2002-10-05/netinst.iso.bz2

at the end of the kernel load I get errors about needing a valid root=

I have tried /sparc64 initrd=/root.bin (on the above ISO) but I always
get MMU Miss when it tries to init the ramdisk prior to loading the
kernel. As the kernel loads it looks like it inits a good ramdisk with
no problems.

Also as the kernel loads I am gettings lots of lost interrupt for my
HDD/CD.

My Sun Blade 100, is very standard 15GB HDD, 256MB RAM, standard
in-built video card.

Any Ideas?

Thanks, Warren.

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The postgresql/libcrypto problem

2002-11-04 Thread Steve Dunham


I managed to narrow down the exact cause of the postgresql configure
script failing to detect that long long is 64 bits on the Sparc.

It seems that libcrypto.so is dynamically exporting __muldi3 and other
symbols that it pulls in from libgcc.a, but v[89]/libcrypto.so do not
contain these symbols.  So the conftest.c compiles, but fails to load
because of a missing symbol.

My proposed solution (bug 167831) is to use a simple version script
that makes symbols starting with __ local when linking libcrypto.so
on the Sparc.

This problem may occur with any other library that provides different
versions for v8/v9.


Steve
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Re: Sun Blade 100 config

2002-11-04 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 04:32:01PM +1300, Warren Hughes wrote:
 Hi all, I am trying to get Woody running on my Sun Blade 100. I am
 having no end of problems. Have upgraded to the latest OBP/POST. It
 seems the only kernel I can get to boot (without MMU Miss problems) is:
 
 http://auric.debian.org/~bcollins/disks-sparc/3.0.23-2002-10-05/netinst.iso.bz2
 
 at the end of the kernel load I get errors about needing a valid root=
 
 I have tried /sparc64 initrd=/root.bin (on the above ISO) but I always
 get MMU Miss when it tries to init the ramdisk prior to loading the
 kernel. As the kernel loads it looks like it inits a good ramdisk with
 no problems.

boot cdrom /boot/sparc64 
initrd=/dists/woody/main/disks-sparc/current/images-1.44/root.bin

 Also as the kernel loads I am gettings lots of lost interrupt for my
 HDD/CD.

I've heard that the latest OBP is causing some problems. You may want to
back down to an older version.

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