Re: Installing debian

[Glen Lee Edwards]

On Wednesday 12 June 2002 11:00 pm, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 18:17, FreeportWeb Debian Support Account wrote:
> > Which leads to my question.  Once you have that up and
> > running, whats the best way to install KDE?
>
> As a former KDE 2.2.1 user (in my Mandrake days) who thinks
> that KDE has it's strong points, I must ask: why use KDE?

konsole is a great replacement for any *term.  I prefer it over any 
other that I've used.

KMail works great.  I can configure it for multiple email addresses, 
POP3 or imap, to use my local Sendmail or my ISP's MTA.

Konqueror is as close a replacement for IE that I've found on Linux.  

I prefer to use FVWM as my window manager.  KDE allows me to use the 
KDE desktop with FVWM as the window manager.

KDE has several very handy utilities that I frequently use.

Glen


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Re: Debian: abandon ship?

[Glen Lee Edwards]

On Thursday 06 June 2002 11:35 am, Ivo Wever wrote:
> >[snippety] But as a distribution, it's head and shoulders above the
> >competition.
>
> If the other dists are so terrible that they can't even support the
> internet connection of a small group of people for three hours a day,
> then why is anyone using them and using them in a commercial
> environment at that?

Ivo, there is no such thing as "One size fits all."  

For example, Red Hat worked well for me as a server and a desk top 
environment for a time.  My needs have changed.  I now have too many 
services running off of one main computer, and two servers that don't 
have the RAM needed to install Red Hat.  I was forced to leave Red Hat 
because of the two low RAM servers.  And Red Hat's upgrades are too 
unreliable, and I've been hacked when I've not upgraded.  I can't 
afford to keep an extra non-production box lying around just so I can 
upgrade it to the latest and greatest RH dist., and then move all the 
services over to that box, etc.

There are many computer professionals and companies who swear by Red 
Hat.  These people have the money to have high memory servers and 
plenty of extra computers lying around that they can upgrade off line, 
and once they're upgraded then move all the active services to them.  
I'm not in that position.  So just because some Linux distributions are 
highly touted and used by very competent people doesn't mean that those 
distributions will work for everyone.

I am very happy with Debian's approach.  The provide a stable, reliable 
operating system that runs on all my servers.  Thankfully they upgrade 
individual packages on a regular basis, and, from what I gather, only 
do major upgrades (Potato to Woody, etc) every year or two.  This is 
exactly what my non-profit, non-income system needs.

The Debian developers have my sincere appreciation.  I'll take stable 
over cutting edge any day.

Glen


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Re: Unable to make Linux bootable from HD or make boot floppy

[Ron Johnson]

Hi, Mark.

You, presumably a total Linux-newbie have set yourself up
with a daunting task trying to install not-the-most-hand-
holding distribution on _really_ancient_ hardware.  If you
get it working you'll have something to write home about...

On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 20:58, Mark Fickett wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am working on installing Debian 2.2r6 on a Packard Bell 
> Intel machine, which has a Pheonix BIOS, 23.0MB RAM, a 428MB 

23MB RAM?  That's odd.  Is 1MB "stolen" for the video adapter?

> Hard Drive, a 3.5" 1.44MB floppy drive, and a Matsushita CD-ROM 
> drive (as well as a keyboard, mouse, monitor, two COM ports, 
> two telephone ports, etc). I'm completely new to Debian, and 
> have very little experience with PCs (I'm usually a Mac person), 
> so I'm not sure what I need to include; I'll just try to give 
> as much information as I can.
> 
> I am installing from a rescue floppy created from the rescue.bin 
> file on the official binary Debian 2.2r6 CDs (which I purchased 
> from TuxCDs), which uses linux 2.2.19. Installation seems to 
> go all in order until I reach the point at which it asks to 
> either make Linux bootable directly from the hard drive or creat 
> a boot floppy, at which point neither works.
> 
> When configuring device driver support, I install sbpcd for my 
> matsushita CD-ROM drive, and have tried also installing de-floppy, 

Are you sure the matsushita it plugged into the Sound Blaster 
card?

> linear, raid0, raid1, raid5 in hopes of helping the floppy drive, 
> but with no change in results. I then install the base system 

That's just flailing (but makes one feel good to "just do something").

> from the first Debian CD (extracted from
> /instmnt/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/base2_2.tgz). 
> The drive was giving me problems before (rawrite2.exe gave me 
> "general failure reading drive D" several times, but would go 

Drive _D:_???  rawrite2.exe should be writing to A: or B:.

> on after retrying), when I was trying to make the rescue and 
> device driver floppies, but doesn't seem to cause any problems 
> here. The Debian CD seems to be fine, however; on another 
> computer, rawrite2.exe had no problems.
> 
> When I try to make Linux bootable directly from the HD, either 
> option (the MBR on /dev/hda, the only hard drive, or on /dev/hda1, 
> my boot partition) fails, saying that "LILO wasn't able to install ...
> the most common reason why LILO fails is trying to boot a kernel 
> that resides at a location on the disk higher than the 1023rd
> cylinder" ... etc. My partition scheme, however, has both the 
> boot and the root partitions well under the 1023rd cylinder; I 
> don't think I even have 1024 cylinders. (The partitions are 
> /hda1, which is 10MB at the beginning of the disk, a Primary linux 
> ex2 partition marked bootable and mounted as boot, /hda2, a 
> 30MB Primary linux ext2 partition which is root, and a 388MB 
> Linux Swap partition, also Primary.)

This must be changed.  On a very small disk like this, try this:
hda2: Primary ext2 48MB _at_the_end_of_the_disk_
hda1: Primary swap Everything else, and make it bootable...

> When I try to make a boot floppy, it asks for a blank floppy, says 
> "creating a filesystem on the floppy...", and then (after the floppy 
> drive makes a short noise) says "Creation of the boot floppy failed. >
> Please make sure that the floppy was not write-proteced, and that you
> put it in the first floppy drive. Try another floppy if the problem
> persists." I have tried with several floppies, none of which have been

Could the floppy drive be whacked after this long?

> write protected, and all of which have gone into the first (and only)
> floppy drive. I've tried both freshly formatted for PC, as well as old
> Mac-formatted disks. When I check Ctrl-Alt-F3, I see:
> 
[snip]
> Hopefully I've not been too exhaustive. Many thanks,
>  -Mark

HTH,
Ron
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users and menus, update-menus

[Rick Pasotto]

Where/when does gnome get its menus? If I make a change to /etc/menu
and run update-menus as root I see the changes immediately in the
gnome/debian menus. However if I make a change to ~/.menu and run
update-menus as a user I do *not* see that anything has happened.

Also, the 'sort' option doesn't seem to work. In the Apps/Programming
section all the entries are uppercase except 'elk' so 'elk' shows last
in the menu. Adding 'sort=ELK' to the menu entry doesn't change its
position. 

Have I misunderstood how menus are supposed to work?

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Re: libfreetype6 or pango broken

[Anthony Fok]

Hello all,

On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 02:48:02AM +0900, Akira TAGOH wrote:
> > On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 13:39:24 +0200,
> > "DO" == David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> DO>I can confirm: I've just  rebuild pango from source, and the problem
> DO> disappear. So rebuilding the pango package with the new  libfreetype6
> DO> should fix  the whole  thing.
> 
> Sure. I'll rebuild against new libfreetype6 and upload it
> ASAP.
> 
> I'm wondering why the upstream doesn't change the soname.

I wonder if the error is related to the following note in the
FreeType 2.1.1: CHANGES file

- The cache sub-system has been optimized in important ways.  Cache hits
  are now significantly faster.  For example, using the CMap cache is
  about twice faster than calling FT_Get_Char_Index on most platforms. 
  Similarly, using an SBit cache is about five times faster than loading
  the bitmaps from a bitmap file, and 300 to 500 times faster than
  generating them from a scalable format.

  Note that you should recompile your sources if you designed a custom
  cache class for the FT2 Cache subsystem, since the changes performed
  are source, but not binary, compatible.

Anyhow, should I change the version dependency from "libfreetype6 (>=
2.0.9)" to "libfreetype6 (>= 2.1.1) and rebuild libfreetype6 before you
rebuild Pango?  (I think I had better go upload libfreetype6_2.1.1-2
right away.)

Cheers,

Anthony

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Re: DMA settings

[Ron Johnson]

On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 17:01, Jason Bleazard wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 09:25, Matthias Ellinger wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'd like to permanently set the dma=1 parameter on my HD (UDMA100) and
> > > DVD-ROM-drives. hdparm does the job manually, but after reboot the old 
> > > state
> > > is active again.
> > 
> > So make a startup script that runs hdparm...
> 
> Or if you don't want to make your own startup script, there's a spot for
> hdparm in /etc/init.d/hwtools (which is part of the hwtools package).

Ya lerns summin new every day on dis list..
 
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sair and linux certification

[Deedra Waters]

I know that this is slightly off topic so please if you do respond please
respond to me privately...

I'm looking into the possibility of going into working with linux, and
want totake related courses to help build my background because I'm not
experienced enough. I have looked specificly into the sair certification
at  (http://www.linuxcertification.com) this gives me a great deal of
info, but does not give me the answers I'm looking for which mainly are is
there a place in the tampabay Florida area that offers this course. It
does list one area, but the email address is incorrect.

If anyone can help me with this, or give me thoughts and or feedback I'd
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Re: bash login script problems...

[Neal Lippman]

> When you run a script in a subshell, it can modify the environment of
> that subshell, then that subshell terminates (when the script is done)
> and you get the prompt from your original shell again.  Unlike MS-DOS,
> scripts normally run in subshells and can't wreak havoc on your
> environment.  If you want to run the script in the current shell, use
> one of the following commands :
> . ./.bash_profile
> source ./.bash_profile

Thanks. I was confusing the use of the export builtin and how it 
exports a 
shell variable to the environment.



>
> What I do is put all config stuff in ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile
> looks like this :
>
>
> # .bash_profile
>
> if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
> source ~/.bashrc
> fi

duh. Thanks very much.


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Re: bash login script problems...

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 10:16:37PM -0400, Neal Lippman wrote:
| I am having two problems with bash login scripts, which I cannot seem to sort 
| out. Probably something simple, but I'm missing it.
| 
| 1. First, here is a few lines from my .bash_profile. These lines were 
| commented out by default, and I have uncommented them. 

| I have verified, by adding some echo statements, that the body of the if 
| clause IS being executed when I issue './.bash_profile' and so my ~/bin dir 
 ^^^

| should be getting added to my path. However, after the script completes, 
| 'echo $PATH' does NOT show any change to my path shell variable.
| 
| What am I missing here?

When you run a script in a subshell, it can modify the environment of
that subshell, then that subshell terminates (when the script is done)
and you get the prompt from your original shell again.  Unlike MS-DOS,
scripts normally run in subshells and can't wreak havoc on your
environment.  If you want to run the script in the current shell, use
one of the following commands :
. ./.bash_profile
source ./.bash_profile

| 2. I previously used Mandrake, and just switched to debian. Under KDE, when I 
| run a standard console shell (eg the standard KDE xterm), when I
| used mandrake it appeared that .bash_profile was automatically
| executed, and the suppled mandrake version then executed .bashrc for
| me. It appears that under Debian, however, .bashrc is executed
| directly and .bash_profile is only executed when I login directly on
| a ptty, rather than from an xterm under KDE.

This is normal.  Read 'man bash'.  ~/.bashrc is run for
non-login shells.  ~/.bash_profile is run for login shells.  When you
log in you start a login shell, when you run xterm you don't start a
login shell.

What I do is put all config stuff in ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile
looks like this :


# .bash_profile

if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
source ~/.bashrc
fi

HTH,
-D

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Re: devfs + grub [was Re: RAM upgrade]

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 06:12:57AM +0800, csj wrote:
| On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:05:01 -0500
| "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| 
| >  The only odd thing I've noticed is the root= parameter to the kernel.
| >  That must be the old name.  I have no idea why, but trying the devfs
| >  name fails.
| > 
| >  Here's my grub stanza for booting the pre-packaged kernel :
| > 
| > 
| >  title   Debian GNU/Linux (2.4.18-k7 , 1280x1024x16)
| >  root(hd0,0)
| >  kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-k7 root=/dev/hda1 read-only 
devfs=mount video=vesa vga=0x31A
| >  initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.4.18-k7
| 
| I think I now understand the problem. Grub really doesn't understand
| devfsd. It just "mounts" the kernel (root=) and lets it take over from
| there. Thanks for the clarification.

Hmm, sort of.  Grub doesn't know how _any_ OS names the disks.
Whether it's linux, linux+devfs, *BSD, windows, whatever, grub doesn't
care.  It doesn't need to -- it has its own naming of disks that are
used in grub commands.  The root= thing is simply passed to the kernel
to let it do whatever it wants with it.

| Now, would enabling devfsd magically cause my disk-based /dev/ directory
| to be mirrored in devfs-pace?

If you mount devfs on /dev, then /dev will be devfs.  It's very much
like how /proc works.  If you don't mount procfs on /proc, then /proc
won't be procfs, and if you do it will be.

| I'm particularly concerned about the permission and ownership of the
| devices.

Most stuff is fine the way devfsd ships.  You can configure it to set
whatever perms you want to stuff too.  Install the package and browse
through it.  Simply installing the devfsd package won't actually do
anything to your system.  You'll have to mount devfs on /dev before
trying to start devfsd for it to start.

HTH,
-D

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bash login script problems...

[Neal Lippman]

I am having two problems with bash login scripts, which I cannot seem to sort 
out. Probably something simple, but I'm missing it.

1. First, here is a few lines from my .bash_profile. These lines were 
commented out by default, and I have uncommented them. 

# set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
# uncommented nl 6/15/02
if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then
PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
export PATH
fi

I have verified, by adding some echo statements, that the body of the if 
clause IS being executed when I issue './.bash_profile' and so my ~/bin dir 
should be getting added to my path. However, after the script completes, 
'echo $PATH' does NOT show any change to my path shell variable.

What am I missing here?

2. I previously used Mandrake, and just switched to debian. Under KDE, when I 
run a standard console shell (eg the standard KDE xterm), when I used 
mandrake it appeared that .bash_profile was automatically executed, and the 
suppled mandrake version then executed .bashrc for me. It appears that under 
Debian, however, .bashrc is executed directly and .bash_profile is only 
executed when I login directly on a ptty, rather than from an xterm under KDE.

Is my understanding correct? Is there any easy way to ensure that both 
scripts are executed regardless of the method of logging in and where I log 
in to (eg Mandrake or Debian)? The reason this matters, btw, is that my old 
Mandrake computer is now my file server, and the Debian system mounts my home 
directory as an NFS share, so logins to either system (and distro) now share 
the same files. As a result, when is SSH from teh debian system to the 
mandrake, I DON'T get my correct login scripts running, and I need a 
(relatively) simply way of having the same prompt format, aliases, etc 
regardless of whether I am workign on the Debian system or remotely on the 
(Mandrake) file server.

Thanks for any help.

Neal


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Unable to make Linux bootable from HD or make boot floppy

[Mark Fickett]

Hello,

I am working on installing Debian 2.2r6 on a Packard Bell Intel machine, which 
has a Pheonix BIOS, 23.0MB RAM, a 428MB Hard Drive, a 3.5" 1.44MB floppy drive, 
and a Matsushita CD-ROM drive (as well as a keyboard, mouse, monitor, two COM 
ports, two telephone ports, etc). I'm completely new to Debian, and have very 
little experience with PCs (I'm usually a Mac person), so I'm not sure what I 
need to include; I'll just try to give as much information as I can.

I am installing from a rescue floppy created from the rescue.bin file on the 
official binary Debian 2.2r6 CDs (which I purchased from TuxCDs), which uses 
linux 2.2.19. Installation seems to go all in order until I reach the point at 
which it asks to either make Linux bootable directly from the hard drive or 
creat a boot floppy, at which point neither works.

When configuring device driver support, I install sbpcd for my matsushita 
CD-ROM drive, and have tried also installing de-floppy, linear, raid0, raid1, 
raid5 in hopes of helping the floppy drive, but with no change in results. I 
then install the base system from the first Debian CD (extracted from 
/instmnt/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/base2_2.tgz). The drive was 
giving me problems before (rawrite2.exe gave me "general failure reading drive 
D" several times, but would go on after retrying), when I was trying to make 
the rescue and device driver floppies, but doesn't seem to cause any problems 
here. The Debian CD seems to be fine, however; on another computer, 
rawrite2.exe had no problems.

When I try to make Linux bootable directly from the HD, either option (the MBR 
on /dev/hda, the only hard drive, or on /dev/hda1, my boot partition) fails, 
saying that "LILO wasn't able to install ... the most common reason why LILO 
fails is trying to boot a kernel that resides at a location on the disk higher 
than the 1023rd cylinder" ... etc. My partition scheme, however, has both the 
boot and the root partitions well under the 1023rd cylinder; I don't think I 
even have 1024 cylinders. (The partitions are /hda1, which is 10MB at the 
beginning of the disk, a Primary linux ex2 partition marked bootable and 
mounted as boot, /hda2, a 30MB Primary linux ext2 partition which is root, and 
a 388MB Linux Swap partition, also Primary.)

When I try to make a boot floppy, it asks for a blank floppy, says "creating a 
filesystem on the floppy...", and then (after the floppy drive makes a short 
noise) says "Creation of the boot floppy failed. Please make sure that the 
floppy was not write-proteced, and that you put it in the first floppy drive. 
Try another floppy if the problem persists." I have tried with several 
floppies, none of which have been write protected, and all of which have gone 
into the first (and only) floppy drive. I've tried both freshly formatted for 
PC, as well as old Mac-formatted disks. When I check Ctrl-Alt-F3, I see:

Jun 15 21:07:48 (none) user.err dbootstrap[137]: Please place a blank floppy 
disk in the first floppy disk drive, and press ENTER.
Jun 15 21:07:48 (none) user.debug dbootstrap[137]: umount: No such file or 
directory
Jun 15 21:07:48 (none) user.info dbootstrap[137]: umount: Invalid arguement
Jun 15 21:07:48 (none) user.info dbootstrap[137]: write_boot_floppy: found 
floppy of size 1440
Jun 15 21:07:49 (none) user.info dbootstrap[137]: formatting floppy with cmd 
'export LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/target/lib:/target/usr/lib"; 
/target/usr/bin/superformat /dev/fd0 hd'
Jun 15 21:07:49 (none) user.err dbootstrap[137]: Creation of the boot floppy 
failed. Please make sure that the floppy was not write-protected, and that you 
put it in the first drive. Try another floppy if the problem persists.

Ctrl-Alt-F4 gives me general starting-up stuff, ending in:
VFS: Insert root floppy disk to be loaded into RAM disk and press ENTER
VFS: Disk change detected on device fd(2,0)
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
apm: BIOS not found
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 156k freed
kmod: runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped
kmod: runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped

Ctrl-Alt-F2 is an unactivated console, and Ctrl-Alt-F1 is dbootstrap.

Hopefully I've not been too exhaustive. Many thanks,
 -Mark


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Re: appearance of xfce on Debian

[Jeff]

Eric G. Miller, 2002-Jun-14 23:37 -0700:
> On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 11:06:44PM -0700, Jeff wrote:
> > Michael P. Soulier, 2002-Jun-14 23:19 -0400:
> > > On 14/06/02 Kevin C. Smith did speaketh:
> > > 
> > > > It sets the bar below the screen for some reason.
> > > > 
> > > > edit ~/.xfce/xfwm-session
> > > > 
> > > > for [WM_NAME] XFce Main Panel
> > > > change [GEOMETRY] 
> > > > Mine looks like this: [GEOMETRY] 110 722 808 46 0 0
> > > > 
> > > > See if that works.
> > > 
> > > This happened to me too, on both my desktop and my laptop.
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > 
> > I decided to check out xfce and this is happening to me too, but the
> > suggested action above does not help.  It keeps resetting back to the
> > default, which pushed the panel off the screen.  Any other
> > suggestions?
> 
> Log out from X and edit it from a console session.  My guess is
> your editing it from within an xfce session, and your changes are
> getting clobbered when you end the session.

I ended up purging xfce and reinstalling, just to see if that would
fix it, but it didn't.  So I found geometry settings in
~/.xfce/xfce3rc and changed those, then I did a restart from within
xfce and it worked that way.

thanks for your responses...jc

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LICQ and KDE

[Erik Mathisen]

Hello all,

I know this is more of a KDE question, but hopefully someone here can
answer my query.  I am running LICQ in KDE (both of them curring to
the unstable version).  I use the dock icon, and I was hoping that it
would dock into the KDE panel, but instead it puts itself at the top
of the desktop.  Now, the way LICQ is written may prohibit it from
doing that, but I have no idea.  Does anyone know if this is possible?

Thanks,

Erik 

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xine wants /dev/nuss - why?

[umidori kamome]

Hey Yo Hoh, Travis!

sorry if this becomes a double-post, but im not yet
very familiar with this mail prog (yahoo), so im not
sure if I answered right (I sitll dont have my own 
answer mails). 
So once again, thank you very much Travis. oss works
fine.

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Re: hang during upgrade - pcmcia-cs package ? - lead to hard disk corruption

[Jerome Lacoste]

On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 02:02, Jerome Lacoste wrote:

> I also had to modify /

I had to modify /etc/gdm/sessions/Gnome

to remove the gnome-session parameter  --purge-delay=15000

This may have had an importance, but that was the only way I could get
gnome to work from gdm. Perhaps if there an upgrade bug there?

Jerome



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hang during upgrade - pcmcia-cs package ? - lead to hard disk corruption

[Jerome Lacoste]

Hi all,

I had a hang while doing an upgrade. I think it was during the upgrade
of the pcmcia-cs pacjage.
Note: the only pcmcia card I have is a Schlumberger smart card reader
unsupported under Linux).

Unfortuntely after the hard reset I was obliged to do, I ended up having
big troubles with my ext2 partitions. I had to run fsck manualy several
of them among which / and /usr.

Then I there was a big mess.

Login from gdm was failing, pursuing the upgrade failed.

the dpkg available files had disappeared, several packages couldn't get
installed and I think that several files were corrupted...

I also had to modify /

After some uninstalling/reinstalling  of around 10 packages, I managed
to get back into a working session (with an updated splash screen by the
way).

I lost my applets :(, the desktop icons lost their text, plenty of icons
are missing in the Gnome start menu, etc.  The errors all appear in my
.gnome-errors, attached in this mail.

As I feel there may be a lot of others invisible problems just waiting
to become visible, I would appreciate any advice.

Cheers,

Jerome

/etc/gdm/Sessions//Gnome: checking /etc/login.defs for option UMASK
/etc/gdm/Sessions//Gnome: /etc/login.defs: "UMASK" is "022"
/etc/gdm/Sessions//Gnome: checking /etc/login.defs for option ULIMIT
/etc/gdm/Sessions//Gnome: checking /etc/login.defs for option MAIL_DIR
/etc/gdm/Sessions//Gnome: /etc/login.defs: "MAIL_DIR" is "/var/mail"
/etc/gdm/Sessions//Gnome: using /etc/X11/Xsession.options for options
/etc/gdm/Sessions//Gnome: checking /etc/X11/Xsession.options for option 
allow-user-resources
:3: .xblast-player_resource: No such file or directory
/etc/gdm/Sessions//Gnome: checking /etc/X11/Xsession.options for option 
allow-user-modmap

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
SESSION_MANAGER=local/expresso:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1650

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Error opening terminal: unknown.

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
Gnome-Message: gnome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -1
gpilotd-Message: gnome-pilot 0.1.64 starting...
gpilotd-Message: compiled for pilot-link version 0.9.5
gpilotd-Message: compiled with [VFS] [GOAD] [USB] [IrDA] [Network] 

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

** WARNING **: Cannot find pixmap file gnome-debian.png

** WARNING **: Cannot find pixmap file gnome-run.png

** WARNING **: Cannot find pixmap file launcher-program.png

** WARNING **: Cannot find pixmap file gnome-debian.png
gpilotd-Message: Activating CORBA server
gpilotd-Message: Watching Cradle (/dev/visor)

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_signal_disconnect_by_data(): could not find handler 
containing data (0x81211D0)

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
no glyph loaded for character 'T'
no glyph loaded for character 'h'
no glyph loaded for character 'i'
no glyph loaded for character 's'
no glyph loaded for character ' '
no glyph loaded for character 'i'
no glyph loaded for character 's'
no glyph loaded for character ' '
no glyph loaded for character 'a'
no glyph loaded for character ' '
no glyph loaded for character 'g'
no glyph loaded for character 'o'
no glyph loaded for character 'o'
no glyph loaded for character 'd'
no glyph loaded for character ' '
no glyph loaded for character 'e'
no glyph loaded for character 'n'
no glyph loaded for character 'o'
no glyph loaded for character 'u'
no glyph loaded for character 'g'
no glyph loaded for character 'h'
no glyph loaded for character ' '
no glyph loaded for character 'l'
no glyph loaded for character 'e'
no glyph loaded for character 'n'
no glyph loaded for character 'g'
no glyph loaded for character 't'
no glyph loaded for character 'h'
no glyph loaded for character ' '
no glyph loaded for character 'f'
no glyph loaded for character 'o'
no glyph loaded for character 'r'
no glyph loaded for character ' '
no glyph loaded for character 'a'
no glyph loaded for character 'n'
no glyph loaded for character 'y'
no glyph loaded for character ' '
no glyph loaded for character 'l'
no glyph loaded for character 'i'
no glyph loaded for character 'n'
no glyph loaded for character 'e'
no glyph loaded for character ' '
no glyph loaded for character 't'
no glyph loaded for character 'o'
no glyph loaded for character ' '
no glyph loaded for character 'h'
no glyph loaded for character 'a'
no glyph loaded for character 'v'
no glyph loaded for character 'e'
no glyph loaded for character '.'

Eel-WARNING **: Error trying to process font directory 
'/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/'.
no glyph loaded for

Re: Recover files

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya aaron

from my little world files dont disappear unless you delete it

- put samba back the way it was... or recreate the account ??
( caution.. am assuming that creating accounts in windoze
( doesnt wipe out its old files/directories
(
( creating new users will copy over new set of config files

- when you write/save files... where did youput it ??
c:  or on the shared disks( linux )

>   Fixed the problems on the windows box.

- what do you mean by that ??


- if the files was stored on the linux side... its still there...
  just not visible to other windoze users ??
- should be visible to root on linux

c ya
alvin


On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Aaron Wrasman wrote:

> I've done some research already and I hope someone will have a better
> answer than I currently have so far.
> 
> The situation:
>   I misconfigured samba to point at /home/accountname for roaming
>   profiles.
> 
>   It has been this way for over a year.
> 
>   No one noticed. I'm the only person that uses linux directly.
> 
>   To troubleshoot a problem on a Windows 98 box, I logged in as
>   myself on the win98 box.
> 
>   It built me a profile and pushed it too the Linux box. It
>   seemed to be taking a really log time but it finally finished.
> 
>   Fixed the problems on the windows box.
> 
>   Later when I go to use my account on the linux things are all
>   messed up.
> 
>   First thing I notice, all my mail files are gone. ( 7 years
>   worth.)
> 
>   Then I notice alot directories I haven't used in years were
>   updated today at about the same time.
> 
>   I finally do a 
>   
>   find /home/accountname -type f -print
> 
>   less than 100 files come back. Almost all of them are dot-files.
> 
>   I figure umount the filesystem and run debugfs and recover the
>   files. (i.e. lsdel)
> 
>   Second problem. No deleted inodes exist after April 22, 2002.
> 
>   I moved everything over to ext3 about that time.
> 
>   Checking web pages. It appears you can't use the lsdel
>   command in debugsfs to find deleted files.
> 
> Current Answer:
> 
>   Find every "free" inode on at 27 Gig partition and look for
>   strings that I know should be in particular files. Then try to
>   reconstruct the files by hand.
> 
> 
> Does anyone have better ideas? And no, I don't have a recent backup.
> Last time I changed the hardware I never got the tape drive reconnected 
> to the system. So last backup is over 9 months ago. At the time I wasn't
> concerned, the old system had been on raid and the new one was also.
> 
> 
> So any ideas?
> 
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Re: /etc/printcap with CUPS & Openoffice 1.0

[W. Paul Mills]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (nate) writes:

> 
>
>> I had a similar problem with wordperfect 7. I used "lpr -o raw"
>> with cups to solve the problem.
>>
>
>
> where did you use the lpr? did/does wordperfect have a way to
> specify a command line printer command? seems most X apps do,
> gnotepad+, netscape 4.7x, adobe acrobat, some kde apps, but
> star/open office doesn't from what i can see..

In wp it is rather deeply embeded in the printer setup screens.
Sorry, have not used staroffice in long time, can not help there.

Paul





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xine wants /dev/null - why?

[umidori kamome]

Hey Yo Hoh!

Sound doesnt work with xine here (its an es1371, does 
work under kde, xfce and progs like mpg321).
In the "setup window", "audio" the default driver is
"null" - not too cool! But even changing it to dsp or
/dev/dsp (is the device wanted here or really a driver?)
or es1371 doesnt have any effect at all.
No sound and again "null" as soon as I change the tabs in
the window (or restart the setup or the whole app).
Whats going wrong here - is it my fault or something
ugly?

thans in advance

cu
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Re: OT question sorry but i need salution fast ....

[Gary Turner]

On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 00:47:17 -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:

>
>On Tuesday, June 11, 2002, at 02:14 , faisal gillani wrote:
>>
>> well i have 2 ethernet networks running which i want
>> to connect but the distance between them is above 400
>> meters .. so this is way beyond the normal lan
>> hardware ..
>
snip
>The only thing that will 
>stop you[1] is if the signal is not strong enough on the other 
>end, or the noise has won. Amps might help, as would lower gauge 
>wire. I'd be interested in hearing how how far you can get away 
>with cat5.

This strikes me as an RF transmission line problem.  Twisted pairs
(cat5) are a reasonably low loss transmission line at audio and low rf.
At 1 gHz they become very lossy. (I know, we're not talking more than
100 mb/s, but these are square waves which have high value odd harmonic
components---3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th, and etc overtones.)  Since these
harmonics are attenuated more than the fundamental (a transmission line
is a low pass filter), the effect is to slow the rise and fall times of
the wave form.  This may cause the detector to mis-read the signal.
Unless active devices are used to regenerate the wave form within
acceptable loss-distance,  _very_ high quality (read air dielectric coax
(hardline), or balanced twin lines) transmission lines are necessary.

snip
>[1] Before someone starts yelling collision domain, remember I said
> 'full duplex'. There should be no collisions, and hence no
> problematic late collisions.

Thus, dual transmission lines, native to cat5.
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Recover files

[Aaron Wrasman]

I've done some research already and I hope someone will have a better
answer than I currently have so far.

The situation:
I misconfigured samba to point at /home/accountname for roaming
profiles.

It has been this way for over a year.

No one noticed. I'm the only person that uses linux directly.

To troubleshoot a problem on a Windows 98 box, I logged in as
myself on the win98 box.

It built me a profile and pushed it too the Linux box. It
seemed to be taking a really log time but it finally finished.

Fixed the problems on the windows box.

Later when I go to use my account on the linux things are all
messed up.

First thing I notice, all my mail files are gone. ( 7 years
worth.)

Then I notice alot directories I haven't used in years were
updated today at about the same time.

I finally do a 

find /home/accountname -type f -print

less than 100 files come back. Almost all of them are dot-files.

I figure umount the filesystem and run debugfs and recover the
files. (i.e. lsdel)

Second problem. No deleted inodes exist after April 22, 2002.

I moved everything over to ext3 about that time.

Checking web pages. It appears you can't use the lsdel
command in debugsfs to find deleted files.

Current Answer:

Find every "free" inode on at 27 Gig partition and look for
strings that I know should be in particular files. Then try to
reconstruct the files by hand.


Does anyone have better ideas? And no, I don't have a recent backup.
Last time I changed the hardware I never got the tape drive reconnected 
to the system. So last backup is over 9 months ago. At the time I wasn't
concerned, the old system had been on raid and the new one was also.


So any ideas?


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Re: DMA settings

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 06:01:15PM -0400, Jason Bleazard wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 09:25, Matthias Ellinger wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'd like to permanently set the dma=1 parameter on my HD (UDMA100) and
> > > DVD-ROM-drives. hdparm does the job manually, but after reboot the old 
> > > state
> > > is active again.
> > 
> > So make a startup script that runs hdparm...
> 
> Or if you don't want to make your own startup script, there's a spot for
> hdparm in /etc/init.d/hwtools (which is part of the hwtools package).

True (potato) but not always true (woody).

woody separated hdparm from hwtools but strangely /etc/init.d/hwtools
has entry for hdparm :)

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RE: Problems installinf XFree 4.2 on Woody

[Peter Whysall]

On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 21:28, Ronald Castillo wrote:
> I've already tried that, but that way I can only configure my video card
> as a Generic VGA, and like that I can only use 256 Kb of video RAM (I
> have 2048 Kb), so it doesn't work for me...
> 

Have you tried doing "XFree86 -configure" and following the
instructions?

Regards

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K7S5a & md driver, Debian 2.2R6 problems

[lketter]

To whoever gets this;
Thanks for taking the time to read it.

Have a K7S5A that is locking on the  CDROM boot of disk 1.  It locks
after the floppy detect when it starts to load the md driver (version
0.36.6 ).  The DDR chip is the CE POWMEM 512MB 266MHZ, 184 pin  It
keeps locking constistantly at this point Do you have any
suggestions?  I was not able to find any messages with problems other
than with the onboard soud card & networking card

MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8

is the last line before it locks hard & must be rebooted.  I have
been using Debian since the MAY 25,2000 Beta & have never seen a problem
quite like this before
Thanks,
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error in libxml-dev?

[James Green]

Setting up libxml-dev (1.8.17-2) ...
syntax error in status file: nls_iso8859-1   2848   0 (autoclean) at 
/usr/sbin/install-docs line 399,  line 1.
dpkg: error processing libxml-dev (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255

Any ideas how to fix this problem? I've had it for a while in sid.

Thanks,

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Re: DMA settings

[csj]

On 15 Jun 2002 10:28:40 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  > I'd like to permanently set the dma=1 parameter on my HD (UDMA100)
>  > and DVD-ROM-drives. hdparm does the job manually, but after reboot
>  > the old state is active again.
> 
>  So make a startup script that runs hdparm...

My own experience with this is that if you have to enable DMA using
hdparm, then something is lacking in or even wrong with your kernel.
This can be quite harmless, but it could be a sign that your system
can't handle that sort of DMA. Perhaps it's time to recompile that
kernel or get a new board.

When I used my previous kernel, which worked nicely on a VIA-based
board, on a SiS board, DMA was invariably disabled at boot time. I would
force DMA using hdparm, and soon enough I would get disk read errors.
Recompiling and enabling (I suspect) "CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIS5513=y" let me
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Strange boot up problem.

[B. L. Jilek]

I have a SuperMicro P6DBU motherboard with built in SCSI.  All
the drives are SCSI on the system.  I just recently bought a 80G
IDE drive to use for storage.

The problem is that after I installed the drive the system booted
up fine.  I have the bootup in the bios to start with Floppy
then SCSI drives.  It worked fine.

I was adding an append for the /dev/hda in lilo and ran lilo.
When I did it gave me an warning that the drive /dev/sda was
not the first drive in the system.  After rebooting the bios
said it was booting from SCSI as normal but I got the constant
01 01 01 01 thing.

I've tried various things like returning lilo to it's original
configuration and the bios was not modified from when It used
to boot fine.  I'm thinking it's a lilo confusion problem.

The way I got around this was to install lilo on /dev/hda with
"other=/dev/sda" in it (the only thing in lilo.conf.hda).  And
keeping lilo on /dev/sda to boot the system.  It works fine
like that.  As long as I set the bios to boot from IDE primary master
instead of from SCSI.  The problem with that setup is I can't
boot from CDrom unless I change the bios back to booting from SCSI.

I'm just wanting to know if there are any lilo tricks to get it to
see /dev/sda as the first drive.  Or if anyone has experience with
the SuperMicro P6DBU Board that knows of this problem.

Thanks

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Re: Configuring a NIC

[Colin Watson]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 03:19:20PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I'm running Woody. I don't have lspci on my system and can't find it 
> in dselect. Where should I look for it.

It's in the pciutils package.

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ghost email after reboot ???

[Michael D. Schleif]

I have a server, upgraded from potato to woody; still running 2.2.20 . .
.

Oddly enough, every time I reboot, root receives eight (8) emails from
nearly one year ago -- long, long ago deleted.  Yes, the exact same mail
every time I reboot.  Since this is a server, I pickup that mail
remotely and always delete it immediately.  exim is set to forward
root's email to my account.  This recurring email is more than a year
old and no subsequently received and deleted emails appear like this.

I've checked /root/mail/ -- for some reason, root doesn't use mbox --
nothing there now.  Also, it is not in my ~/mbox.

I've checked /var/mail -- not even a root entry.  /var/mail/mds is
empty.

Not an earth shattering problem; but, where is it hiding now?  Next time
I reboot, I know that it will reappear; but, how can I delete it
forever, right now?

What do you think?

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Re: mp3 splitting

[csj]

On 15 Jun 2002 19:12:32 +0200
Baan Zoltan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can you help how to split my large mp3 files (mix's) to get smaller
> files? 
> Are there any command line or gui program for it?

Try mpgtx (debian package):

Description: Toolbox to manipulate MPEG files (video, system, and audio)
 mpgtx is a tool to manipulate MPEG files.L


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Re: Configuring a NIC

[Paul E Condon]

I'm running Woody. I don't have lspci on my system and can't find it 
in dselect. Where should I look for it.

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 03:26:49PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 14:53, Phil wrote:
> > I installed Debian and never got the network card recognized.  I've been 
> > looking over past NIC configuration inquiries on this forum as well as at 
> > DebianHELP.org.  Most of the solutions seem to involve finding drivers, 
> > making modules and compiling a new kernel.  unfortunately downloading 
> > drivers is the only part of that process I can claim familiarity with!  is 
> > there any place with Thorough documentation and step by step explanation? 
> 
> I'd start by running this, and see if anything interesting appears:
>  # lspci 
> 
> On my box:
> # lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133]
> (rev 03)
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
> 00:04.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South]
> (rev 40)
> 00:04.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
> 00:04.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 16)
> 00:04.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI]
> (rev 40)
> 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT86C100A [Rhine
> 10/100] (rev 06)
> 00:11.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20265
> (rev 02)
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Vanta [NV6] (rev
> 15)
> 
> Note the Ethernet controller next to "00:0a.0".  Thus:
> # lspci -v -s 00:0a.0
> 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT86C100A [Rhine
> 10/100] (rev 06)
>   Subsystem: D-Link System Inc DFE-530TX
>   Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 4
>   I/O ports at a400 [size=128]
>   Memory at df80 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128]
>   Expansion ROM at  [disabled] [size=64K]
> 
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Galeon screwed in sid

[James Green]

Hi all,

I've had a box with sid on it that was last dist-upgraded about four months 
ago. Galeon ran on it fine.

Today I dist-upgraded again and galeon again loaded fine.

I made a lilo change, rebooted, and now galeon says it cannot find a default 
schema, to check my gconf settings. I checked the galeon faq and it says to 
check for this path file and make sure it has these default lines. Mine looks 
to be fine, except none of the resources it references exist on my hard 
drive.

I've tried gconftool --shutdown as both root and normal user too, but keep 
getting the galeon start up error.

Any ideas?

Thanks

James Green


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Re: devfs + grub [was Re: RAM upgrade]

[csj]

On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:05:01 -0500
"Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  The only odd thing I've noticed is the root= parameter to the kernel.
>  That must be the old name.  I have no idea why, but trying the devfs
>  name fails.
> 
>  Here's my grub stanza for booting the pre-packaged kernel :
> 
> 
>  title   Debian GNU/Linux (2.4.18-k7 , 1280x1024x16)
>  root(hd0,0)
>  kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-k7 root=/dev/hda1 read-only devfs=mount 
> video=vesa vga=0x31A
>  initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.4.18-k7

I think I now understand the problem. Grub really doesn't understand
devfsd. It just "mounts" the kernel (root=) and lets it take over from
there. Thanks for the clarification.

Now, would enabling devfsd magically cause my disk-based /dev/ directory
to be mirrored in devfs-pace? I'm particularly concerned about the
permission and ownership of the devices.


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Re: if I post here I will get spammed of course?

[csj]

On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:25:19 -0500
"Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  | You see I'm 31K modem brief connect to ISP POP box.  I read this group
>  | on google.  Sure I've got procmail etc. turned on.  But that's only
>  | for after one downloads the box contents.  One need IMAP to scan the
>  | headers before download.  Anyway, believe me, 20-30 mails a day and my
>  | slow POP box is over with.
 
[snip]
 
>  Another tool suited for people like you is popsneaker, or something
>  like that.  It is a filter that reads the headers from your POP server
>  and DELEtes the message if it doesn't like it.  It saves you from
>  downloading the whole darn thing.  (I bet you could make it filter d-u
>  too, like I've done, to eliminate topics you aren't interested in.
>  That is, if you were subscribed to the list.)

I would also recommend sylpheed-claws and, I think, the version of KMail
not yet in Debian. They have built-in tools which allow you to preview
your mail, and manually delete or download based on subject and sender
and size. This is safer than popsneaker or mailfilter's non-interactive
delete.

If the OP is really concerned about bandwidth, I'd recommend a webmail
account with ample storage and a good interface (one that lets you see
fifty or more email headers at a time). That way you can dump Debian
into that account.




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Re: DMA settings

[Jason Bleazard]

Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 09:25, Matthias Ellinger wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'd like to permanently set the dma=1 parameter on my HD (UDMA100) and
> > DVD-ROM-drives. hdparm does the job manually, but after reboot the old state
> > is active again.
> 
> So make a startup script that runs hdparm...

Or if you don't want to make your own startup script, there's a spot for
hdparm in /etc/init.d/hwtools (which is part of the hwtools package).


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local mirror -- again

[schnobs]

Hello,

I've got three machines running here, and as I'm always toying around on two of 
them (meaning frequent re-
installs) I finally wanted to create a local mirror. It's about time.
So I tried apt-move.
However, I immediately ran into troble. apt-move expects list files to be named 
differently than they are on my 
system.

What apt-move expects:
/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/Linux/debian/_*_Packages

What I have:
ftp.uni-erlangen.de_pub_Linux_debian_dists_woody_contrib_binary-i386_Packages

Alright, so I've got underscores where apt-move expects slashes; short of 
creating the directories and linking the 
files, what can I do?
And how did I get into this situation in the first place? I never reconfigured 
apt (in fact, there isn't even an 
/etc/apt/apt.conf).


Next issue: provided I get it working at all, I'd like to have shared local 
mirror of everything I find on any of 
my machines; will it work if I place the mirror on an NFS share and run 
apt-move from all machines with 
'DELETE=no'?

cu,
Schnobs


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Re: User Logon Logging?

[Seneca]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 07:45:51PM +0100, Charlie Grosvenor wrote:
> In Debian woody how do I turn on user logon logging, so that a log entry
> is produced each time a user logs on?

In my /etc/syslog.conf:

   auth,authpriv.*  /var/log/auth.log

For more information: man syslog.conf

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Re: Configuring a NIC

[Donald R. Spoon]

Phil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I installed Debian and never got the network card recognized.  I've been 
looking over past NIC configuration inquiries on this forum as well as at 
DebianHELP.org.  Most of the solutions seem to involve finding drivers, 
making modules and compiling a new kernel.  unfortunately downloading 
drivers is the only part of that process I can claim familiarity with!  is 
there any place with Thorough documentation and step by step explanation? 





Unless you have some exotic hardware situation, chances are you already 
have the correct modules already compiled and on your system, and all 
that is needed is a bit of configuration to make it work. A lot of this 
"should" have been done during the install, but it is easy to overlook 
and/or miss unless you have "been there" before.  This is especially 
true with making sure the proper NIC drivers are loaded or present.  I 
don't know of a "step-by-step" tutorial specific for Debian, but I would 
suggest you get and become familiar with the following "HOWTOS":


http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Ethernet-HOWTO.html (ethernet HOWTO)
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Networking-Overview-HOWTO.html

These both contain a LOT of info about Linux networking in general, and 
have lots of good links to other resources.


For things specific to configuring networking for Debian I would refer 
you to "man interfaces" for the proper config of your network interfaces 
once you get them recognized.  There is also a lot of documentation on 
specific NICs in the kernel-source tree under 
"/usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/" that I have found useful. 
You may or maynot have this installed...dunno.


A bit more info would be quite helpful in focusing your current approach.

1.  Which NIC (make & model) are you using?
2.  What does "lspci" say?
3.  What does 'lsmod" say?
4.  What does 'ifconfig" say?
5.  Which version of Debian are you using? (Potato, Woody, Sid??)

These are fairly standard questions when running into NIC setup problems 
and the answers really help focus down on what is NOT happening.


Cheers,
-Don Spoon-


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Weirdness in the GNOME panel

[Ron Johnson]

Hi,

Running up-to-date woody.  I want to change the icon associated
with a panel object.  So I right-click on the object and select
"Properties..." from the newly displayed menu.  A window describing
the object appears.  No problem.

The problem occurs when I click on the "icon button" so that I
can change it.  The window disappears and the screen flickers.  It
seems as though Sawfish resets.

Any thoughts on this?

TIA,
Ron
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RE: Problems installinf XFree 4.2 on Woody

[Ronald Castillo]

I've already tried that, but that way I can only configure my video card
as a Generic VGA, and like that I can only use 256 Kb of video RAM (I
have 2048 Kb), so it doesn't work for me...

Thanks for your help!

Ronald

-Original Message-
From: Klaus Imgrund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: sábado, 15 de junio de 2002 22:06
To: Ronald Castillo
Subject: Re: Problems installinf XFree 4.2 on Woody

Hello,
You can try xf86conf or xf86config (i don't remember) that will write a
config file that is called XF86config.
I always use this file and move XF86Config-4 somewhere as backup in case
something goes really wrong.

Have fun,

Klaus

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 21:50:03 +0200
"Ronald Castillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greetings...
> 
> Today I tried to install XFree 4,2 in my Woody system, first making a
> copy of the directories/usr/X11R6 and/etc/X11. After installing the
> new version (I had 4,1) KDM stopped working, although GDM works well.
> 
> The main problem that I have is that, although when executing startx
> the video works perfectly, when changing to text mode and returning to
> the graphics mode the video appears distorted and sometimes the
> monitor turns off.
> 
> There is some way to configure the XF86Config-4 file? I have tried to
> use "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and although the configuration
> goes well there always appears that problem with the video.
> 
> The error that appears to me in log of KDM is: "kdm: relocation error:
> kdm: undefined symbol: _ XdmcpWrapperToOddParity "
> 
> In the log of XFree does not appear any error referring to the video.
> My card is a S3 Trio 64 V+ and I use the S3 module (for that reason I
> upgraded to 4,2).
> 
> Thank you very much for any help you can offer to me to solve this
> problem. 
> 
> Ronald Castillo
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> 
> 
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Re: Configuring a NIC

[Ron Johnson]

On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 14:53, Phil wrote:
> I installed Debian and never got the network card recognized.  I've been 
> looking over past NIC configuration inquiries on this forum as well as at 
> DebianHELP.org.  Most of the solutions seem to involve finding drivers, 
> making modules and compiling a new kernel.  unfortunately downloading 
> drivers is the only part of that process I can claim familiarity with!  is 
> there any place with Thorough documentation and step by step explanation? 

I'd start by running this, and see if anything interesting appears:
 # lspci 

On my box:
# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133]
(rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133 AGP]
00:04.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South]
(rev 40)
00:04.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
00:04.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 16)
00:04.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI]
(rev 40)
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT86C100A [Rhine
10/100] (rev 06)
00:11.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20265
(rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Vanta [NV6] (rev
15)

Note the Ethernet controller next to "00:0a.0".  Thus:
# lspci -v -s 00:0a.0
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT86C100A [Rhine
10/100] (rev 06)
Subsystem: D-Link System Inc DFE-530TX
Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 4
I/O ports at a400 [size=128]
Memory at df80 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128]
Expansion ROM at  [disabled] [size=64K]

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Re: Configuring a NIC

[Phil]

At 01:09 PM 6/15/02 -0700, you wrote:
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MESSAGE-
On Saturday 15 June 2002 12:53 pm, Phil wrote:
> I installed Debian and never got the network card recognized. 
I've been
> looking over past NIC configuration inquiries on this forum as well
as at
> DebianHELP.org.  Most of the solutions seem to involve finding
drivers,
> making modules and compiling a new kernel.  unfortunately
downloading
> drivers is the only part of that process I can claim familiarity
with!  is
> there any place with Thorough documentation and step by step
explanation?
Which
nic?
Accton En 1207D  on (irq 11)

Which
release of debian?
Debian 2.2 (potato)

Which
kernel?
I know one finds the kernel info in a file, but could you tell me
where?
Modules
or compiled into? (yer choice)
I'd love to try to do both however I'm not much past compiling the
"Hello World" program.

If
you give us more info (out of the gate) we can make our responces a
tad
more consise! :--)
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Quanta & Bluefish weird behaviour

[Helgi Örn]

I am having some weird problems with Quanta and Bluefish, severe enough
for leaving them unusable. Copy and paste from keyboard does not work in
either of them, in Quanta the text vanishes on the far right side of the
editor but it appears if I select it.
I used the same version of Quanta a lot in SuSE and it was the most
stable version I've ever used.
Is someone else sharing this experience?

Cheers,
Helgi Örn

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Problems installinf XFree 4.2 on Woody

[Ronald Castillo]

Greetings...

Today I tried to install XFree 4,2 in my Woody system, first making a
copy of the directories/usr/X11R6 and/etc/X11. After installing the new
version (I had 4,1) KDM stopped working, although GDM works well.

The main problem that I have is that, although when executing startx the
video works perfectly, when changing to text mode and returning to the
graphics mode the video appears distorted and sometimes the monitor
turns off.

There is some way to configure the XF86Config-4 file? I have tried to
use "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" and although the configuration
goes well there always appears that problem with the video.

The error that appears to me in log of KDM is: "kdm: relocation error:
kdm: undefined symbol: _ XdmcpWrapperToOddParity "

In the log of XFree does not appear any error referring to the video. My
card is a S3 Trio 64 V+ and I use the S3 module (for that reason I
upgraded to 4,2).

Thank you very much for any help you can offer to me to solve this
problem. 

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Configuring a NIC

[Phil]

I installed Debian and never got the network card recognized.  I've been 
looking over past NIC configuration inquiries on this forum as well as at 
DebianHELP.org.  Most of the solutions seem to involve finding drivers, 
making modules and compiling a new kernel.  unfortunately downloading 
drivers is the only part of that process I can claim familiarity with!  is 
there any place with Thorough documentation and step by step explanation? 



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Re: Is the default debian machine ripe for port attack?

[Kirk Strauser]

At 2002-06-15T06:50:16Z, Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> as the first line of many of the /etc/init.d/* files, then notice
> [using "nmap" which I downloaded] all these things listening to open ports:

> discard,daytime,ftp,telnet,smtp,time,finger,pop3,sunrpc,auth,nntp,
> imap2,imap3,snpp,printer,unknown,fax,hylafax,webcache,tproxy,vboxd

First off, nmap will not give you a canonical list of what's running.  I
admin several servers that firewall hosts that are portscanning them, for
example.  You probably want to use netstat instead:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ netstat -a | grep LISTEN
tcp0  0 *:32768  *:* LISTEN  
tcp0  0 *:time   *:* LISTEN  
tcp0  0 *:discard*:* LISTEN  
tcp0  0 *:daytime*:* LISTEN  
tcp0  0 *:sunrpc *:* LISTEN  
tcp0  0 *:auth   *:* LISTEN  
tcp0  0 *:1011   *:* LISTEN  
tcp0  0 *:ssh*:* LISTEN  
tcp0  0 *:ipp*:* LISTEN  
tcp0  0 *:smtp   *:* LISTEN  

That's what's running on my Woody system, and several of those are due to
packages I installed later.

Try the experiment again using netstat (or lsof) instead of nmap and see
what's *really* listening on your system.  I suspect the situation may be
less dire than you original thought.  :)
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Re: Mozilla fonts

[Ross Boylan]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 10:42:46AM -0400, Travis Crump wrote:
> 
> 
> Ross Boylan wrote:
> >I was playing around with fonts on Mozilla today, and noticed a number
> >of odd things.  I'd be curious if anyone can explain a bit more about
> >what is going on.
> >
> >1. I can't find anything that controls the fonts used in the browser
> >menu bar and menus.  It looks as if the same font may be used on
> >displayed pages too, for example as the value of a button (e.g., "Go
> >To Download Page" button on the bottom of Debian package pages).
> >The font I'm getting is not too legible.
> >
> 
> Fonts in the menu bar and menus are controlled by your gtk theme. 
> Either change it with the Gnome Control Center or since you are using 
> KDE, edit ~/.gtkrc.  Mine has:
> 
> style "user-font"
> {
>   fontset="-ttf-times new roman-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1"
> }
> widget_class "*" style "user-font"
> 
> Individually the fonts for the different widgets can be individually 
> controlled with userChrome.css, but that is more complicated.
> 

Beautiful!  That's what I needed.  I have slightly different names and
intentions:
-monotype-times new roman-medium-r-normal-*-15-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1

Thanks.  That's *much* better.


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User Logon Logging?

[Charlie Grosvenor]

In Debian woody how do I turn on user logon logging, so that a log entry
is produced each time a user logs on?

Thank you

Charlie

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Nautilus lost all my icon captions

[Dave Carrigan]

After doing an upgrade from sid yesterday, Nautils no longer shows my
icon captions. It shows the icons, but the caption below is blank. You
can see the problem at 

  http://www.rudedog.org/nautilus-bogosity/

Thinking it was a nautilus bug, I tried filing a bug (#150084) and got
the terse and useless response: "It is your font setting problem. not a
bug. closing."

That's all well and good, but something was upgraded in debian that
broke Nautilus, since it was working just fine a couple of days ago.
Does anybody know what happened?

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Re: 3D - Acceleration for Nvidia TNT 2 graphic card

[Peter Whysall]

On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 18:48, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Christian Banik wrote:
> 
> > i'm using SUSE Linux 8.0 but i will install Debian 3.0 final . Nvidia 
> > offers RPM - Files for my graphic - card TNT 2 to activate the 3D 
> > acceleration. I've heard that the RPM system is not compatibel with GNU 
> > / Debian. What can i do?  Thanks Christian . 
> 
> Install 'alien' which translates rpm to deb, among other things.

Alternatively, install the relevant debian packages.

I posted on how to do this earlier. Searching the list archive is an
exercise left for the reader.

Regards

Peter.
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Re: libfreetype6 or pango broken

[Akira TAGOH]

> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 13:39:24 +0200,
> "DO" == David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

DO>I can confirm: I've just  rebuild pango from source, and the problem
DO> disappear. So rebuilding the pango package with the new  libfreetype6
DO> should fix  the whole  thing.

Sure. I'll rebuild against new libfreetype6 and upload it
ASAP.

I'm wondering why the upstream doesn't change the soname.

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Re: 3D - Acceleration for Nvidia TNT 2 graphic card

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Christian Banik wrote:

> i'm using SUSE Linux 8.0 but i will install Debian 3.0 final . Nvidia 
> offers RPM - Files for my graphic - card TNT 2 to activate the 3D 
> acceleration. I've heard that the RPM system is not compatibel with GNU 
> / Debian. What can i do?  Thanks Christian . 

Install 'alien' which translates rpm to deb, among other things.

Patrick

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mp3 splitting

[Baan Zoltan]

Hi,

Can you help how to split my large mp3 files (mix's) to get smaller
files? 
Are there any command line or gui program for it?

Zoltan



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3D - Acceleration for Nvidia TNT 2 graphic card

[Christian Banik]

i'm using SUSE Linux 8.0 but i will install Debian 3.0 final . Nvidia 
offers RPM - Files for my graphic - card TNT 2 to activate the 3D 
acceleration. I've heard that the RPM system is not compatibel with GNU 
/ Debian. What can i do?  Thanks Christian . 



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Re: ipchains not working?

[Kevin Buhr]

"Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> I have the following rule on my WAN interface (eth1):
> 
>   ipchains -A input -s 63.148.99.0/24   -j DENY -l -i eth1
> 
> So why is 63.148.99.229 able to access my Apache server?

Two possibilities come to mind.  First, and most obviously, are you
sure the traffic is coming in on "eth1"?  What if you drop the "-i
eth1" qualifier?

Second, do you have a rule earlier in your "input" chain that would
"ACCEPT" this traffic?  What if you use "-I" instead of "-A" to insert
the rule at the beginning of the chain?

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diald problem

[if . frijns]

Dear all,

I installed Debian 2.2r6, installed a ppp-dialup link. This works fine with 
'pon provider'
I automated it with diald so it responds when there is an ISP-request an brings 
the link
down after som idle time. So far, so good.

I recently installed a new kernel 2.4.18. This look OK, but diald is dead 
(process is running thou). It won't  respond
to commands such as 'lynx', 'route' etc. Everything look the same as with 
2.2r6. Same scripts are there,
diald-process is running.

Reinstalled diald while 2.4.18 is active, no change. ppp is working fine (pon 
provider establishes the link).  Running 2.2r6
(2.2.20 kernel) everything works fine, including diald.

What could be the problem here? Any clues?

Anybody could help a little???

Thanx in advance,
Frank.



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powerbook lombard

[Kevin C. Smith]

To the person that provided is XF86Config-4 config. It worked perfectly.
Thanks. 

Question: 

Have you been able to get sound working?
What modules do you need?

We have tried a few but with no success. 

In fact any advice in general on the install. 
We are still working on sound, pcmcia, and dvd.

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Re[6]: Problems getting crontab to execute my script

[Søren Neigaard]

Saturday, June 15, 2002, 5:24:15 PM, Patrick wrote:

PW> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Søren Neigaard wrote:

>> It is executable by all now, and it still does not work :( Here is my
>> script, it calls other scripts, but that's ok right?
>> 
>> ./killproximus.sh
>> mv /var/log/proximus_log /var/log/proximus_log.old
>> ./proximus.sh > /var/log/proximus_log 2>&1 &

PW> Try the full path to those scripts instead of ./, which cron prbably
PW> doesn't get.  Oh, and /bin/mv too.

Oh yes not so hardcoded after all :)

Now it can kill my Java process, but it will not start it again. Here
are my scripts if it helps:

restart_proximus.sh:

/projects/messageconverter/bin/killproximus.sh
mv /var/log/proximus_log /var/log/proximus_log.old
/projects/messageconverter/bin/proximus.sh > /var/log/proximus_log 2>&1 &


killproximus.sh:

#!/bin/sh
PID=`ps auxw |grep "proximus"|awk '{ print $2}'`
kill -9 $PID


proximus.sh:

/usr/java/jdk1.3/bin/java -classpath 
/projects/messageconverter/classes:/projects/messageconverter/lib/enhydra.jar:/projects/message
converter/lib/client.jar dk.mobilethink.messageconverter.Converter 
/projects/messageconverter/property.xml migway_dk_3232 proximus_be


They now all has full paths to everything, as I see it (except mv, but
that part works).

PW> Patrick

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Re: appearance of xfce on Debian

[Kevin C. Smith]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 10:06:19AM -0500, Kevin C. Smith wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 09:27:48AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> > On 14/06/02 Eric G. Miller did speaketh:
> > 
> > > Log out from X and edit it from a console session.  My guess is
> > > your editing it from within an xfce session, and your changes are
> > > getting clobbered when you end the session.
> > 
> > Agreed. I tried this and it worked. Note that the first two numbers are
> > the coordinates, I believe. I just zeroed those and then it appeared in the
> > top level corner. You can then reach the panels on the sides and move it to
> > its proper location. 
> > 
> > Now if only someone would explain why the colours in my xterm are
> > different in XFCE...
> 
> I believe that if you use xfterm ( a wrapper script that calls xter) the
> xterm defaults are not read. ??
> 
Correction. xfterm called x-terminal-emulator.
Put this in your .bashrc :

export TERMCMD=xterm

everything goes back to normal defaults.

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Re: Problems getting crontab to execute my script

[Shri Shrikumar]

On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 11:55, Søren Neigaard wrote:
> I have made a script that restarts a Java app., and I have no trouble
> running it manually. But when I try to run it with crontab, nothing
> happends!?
> 
> Here is my crontab line (as root):
> 
> 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * 
> /projects/proximus/bin/restart_proximus.sh
> 
> Should this not call my script every 5 minutes?
> 
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Hi,

Maybe defining java classpath and other env variables in the script
would help.

HTH,


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umsdos and vfat works but no uvfat - any ideas?

[Shri Shrikumar]

Hi All,

I've been trying to get uvfat working and it says that I just need to
enable umsdos and vfat (which I have) and they both work fine.

However, when I do 

mount -t uvfat /dev/hda11 /mnt

it tells me that uvfat is not supported by the kernel.

Anybody get uvfat working and if so, how ? Im running kernel 2.4.18 BTW
on Deb Woody.

Regards,



Shri
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Re: DMA settings

[Ron Johnson]

On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 09:25, Matthias Ellinger wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I'd like to permanently set the dma=1 parameter on my HD (UDMA100) and 
> DVD-ROM-drives. hdparm does the job manually, but after reboot the old state 
> is active again.

So make a startup script that runs hdparm...

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Re: IBM PS/2

[Ron Johnson]

On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 09:21, Paladin wrote:
> On 14 Jun 2002 18:55:58 -0500
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> >  You use Sylpheed?  Try "Reply to Sender".
> 
> Replies to you! :/

Oh, well.  It was a thought...  There's a Sylpheed mailing list
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Re: Re[2]: Problems getting crontab to execute my script

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Sven Hoexter wrote:

> Maybe he's missing a blank line at the end of his crontab. That was my fault
> once I had just the same prob.

We've already been through that :)

cron runs in a very impoverished environment; perhaps the script is making
some assumptions about the environment which are so when it's run as root
but not so when it's run via cron?

Patrick

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Re: appearance of xfce on Debian

[Kevin C. Smith]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 09:27:48AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On 14/06/02 Eric G. Miller did speaketh:
> 
> > Log out from X and edit it from a console session.  My guess is
> > your editing it from within an xfce session, and your changes are
> > getting clobbered when you end the session.
> 
> Agreed. I tried this and it worked. Note that the first two numbers are
> the coordinates, I believe. I just zeroed those and then it appeared in the
> top level corner. You can then reach the panels on the sides and move it to
> its proper location. 
> 
> Now if only someone would explain why the colours in my xterm are
> different in XFCE...

I believe that if you use xfterm ( a wrapper script that calls xter) the
xterm defaults are not read. ??

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Re: Re[2]: Problems getting crontab to execute my script

[Sven Hoexter]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 10:42:27AM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Søren Neigaard wrote:

Hi,

> > As I remember crontab used to mail root is there was any problems, but
> > I get no mails, and my script does not run!? Any ideas?
> 
> I'm not sure what to suggest.  I just created a test script and
> 
> */5 * * * * /root/test.sh
> 
> ran it on time.  Have you verified permissions on the script?  And that
> it's executable by root?
Maybe he's missing a blank line at the end of his crontab. That was my fault
once I had just the same prob.

Sven

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Re: Unix-only analog to WinPopup?

[Ron Johnson]

On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 04:53, Eric G. Miller wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 01:55:39AM -0700, nate wrote:
> > 
> > > Using "apt-cache search" doesn't show much.  (Unless I'm using
> > > the wrong keyword to search by!)
> > 
> > 
> > while i am not certain what your end goal is, rpc.walld is
> > a cool program, it won't do a popup(as far as i know) but it can
> > broadcast a message out to connected servers on a network. i
> > didn't even know it existed until i saw it in action on one of my
> > sun boxes, a NFS server broadcasted to the clients that it was
> > shutting down. pretty neat (to me).
> > 
> > i am not sure how(or if) to send a message using it ..
> 
> I think xmessage will work over a network via the -display option.
> Course, you need permission to connect to the remote X server...
> 
> Missed the original post, so not sure if that's what your looking
> for...

I'll check out both rpc.walld.  Unfortunately, I don't see a -display
option to xmessage.  Otherwise, it looks perfect...

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Re: My LVM does not work at all

[Michael Stone]

Please don't crosspost to so many lists. Follow-ups set to the bug
report. You should most definately have more than the ramdisk driver in
/proc/devices. I also run devfs & lvm and have this in /proc/devices:

Block devices:
  1 ramdisk
  3 ide0
  7 loop
  8 sd
  9 md
 11 sr
 22 ide1
 58 lvm
 65 sd
 66 sd

If you don't have a disk driver (ide or sd) there's no way lvm will
work. (Because there's no device for lvm to find a volume on.) Make sure
the appropriate modules are loaded. You can have problems switching
between modules and compiled-in drivers in the kernel if you don't run
'make mrproper'. Note that this will kill .config, so you'll want to
back that up.

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Re: Re[2]: Problems getting crontab to execute my script

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Søren Neigaard wrote:

> As I remember crontab used to mail root is there was any problems, but
> I get no mails, and my script does not run!? Any ideas?

I'm not sure what to suggest.  I just created a test script and

*/5 * * * * /root/test.sh

ran it on time.  Have you verified permissions on the script?  And that
it's executable by root?

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DMA settings

[Matthias Ellinger]

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I'd like to permanently set the dma=1 parameter on my HD (UDMA100) and 
DVD-ROM-drives. hdparm does the job manually, but after reboot the old state 
is active again.

Cheers,
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Re: Foreign Language with OpenOffice?

[Chris Halls]

On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:44:40PM -0600, Jorge Santos wrote:
> > Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I appreciate your response. Could any one give me any guidance as to
> > > how this is done? Do I use the standard OpenOffice (English version)
> > > that I already have and just do something with locales or with kbd or
> > > something? Or do I download a special German version of OO? If the
> > > latter, does that mean the faculty will have to keep three or four
> > > instances of OO running at any one time? One for English, one for
> > > German, one for French, etc? Sorry I'm so ignorant of working with
> > > different languages.

About the user interface language:

The offical versions are completely seperate and you are expected to have a
complete openoffice tree for every user interface language, and I don't know
of any plans to improve that.

With the Debian packages, Martin Quinson has come up with a way of having
more than more user interface available.  The principle is, you copy the
language files in program/resource from each language's installation set
into the installed tree under program/resource.  Then, you can configure
OpenOffice to use a particular language by tweaking the XML configuration
file in the user's workstation install directory.  I guess you could do a
similar thing under Windows, too.

> Ok, this is nice but what about the user interface, I've seen that the
> are several languages for OpenOffice.org Debian packages, so that may
> be a solution if it fits your environment
Yes, we introduced that in -4, although -5 should be much better for this
(not yet uploaded)

> (i.e. if you are running
> unstable (I think it also runs on testing with few extra packages from
> unstable)
To be precise, you need to install just libgcc1 from unstable.

> , however I haven't tried them and I don't know about if you
> can configure the language for each individual user.  Does anyone
> know about this?
In -4, no.  In -5, yes - the language is selected according to the user's
locale(1).

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Re: IBM PS/2

[Paladin]

On 14 Jun 2002 18:55:58 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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>  You use Sylpheed?  Try "Reply to Sender".

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networking script not executing.

[FreeportWeb Debian Support Account]

I have interesting problem on one of my boxes.  We've
tried everything to figure this out.  Basically, when the
machine is started, the /etc/init.d/networking script isn't
running, or its not running correctly so that ifup executes.

I'll explain the issue:

The machine is a woody machine using the tulip driver,
which is built as a module and loads fine.

When the machine boots, the tulip driver is in fact loaded
and is show as such with an lsmod.

However, to complete the network startup, we must do an
"ifup eth0", and an "ifup lo" respectively.

- dmesg shows nothing
- /var/log/syslog shows no failures or issues.


Here's what we've tried:

- re-creating the ring scripts using update-rc.d, yes, they exist
  in 0 and 6, and the kill scripts are there too.

- We also placed an "echo " into the networking
script.

This is interesting, because we placed it at the top -- to always show.
It never appears upon bootup, indicating to us "networking" was never
getting
  run during the startup process. However, during shutdown, while the
kill
  files run, it actually appeared and was executed.  Hmmm...

- running the networking script manually works.


Any help would be much appreciated.  We've been battling this for a couple
weeks...

thanks,
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Re: Nasty X + Mozilla bug...

[Dale Hair]

> That may stops mozilla from crashing x by rendering huge fonts, but 
> I'm wondering if it breaks the page layout.

I think the latest mozilla from unstable fixed this problem with huge
fonts.


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Re: appearance of xfce on Debian

[Michael P. Soulier]

On 14/06/02 Eric G. Miller did speaketh:

> Log out from X and edit it from a console session.  My guess is
> your editing it from within an xfce session, and your changes are
> getting clobbered when you end the session.

Agreed. I tried this and it worked. Note that the first two numbers are
the coordinates, I believe. I just zeroed those and then it appeared in the
top level corner. You can then reach the panels on the sides and move it to
its proper location. 

Now if only someone would explain why the colours in my xterm are
different in XFCE...

Mike

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Re: debian is neat but how do I turn the computer off?

[Patrick Wiseman]

On 15 Jun 2002, Dan Jacobson wrote:

> However, no matter how I inquire to the kernel, e.g. lsmod, it doesn't
> mention apm.

That's presumably because apm is compiled into the kernel and is not a
module.

Patrick

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Re[2]: Problems getting crontab to execute my script

[Søren Neigaard]

Saturday, June 15, 2002, 2:47:23 PM, Patrick wrote:

PW> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Søren Neigaard wrote:

>> Here is my crontab line (as root):
>> 
>> 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * 
>> /projects/proximus/bin/restart_proximus.sh
>> 
>> Should this not call my script every 5 minutes?

PW> You can use */5 instead of your list, for every 5 minutes;

Thanks that's much smarter :)


PW> and make sure
PW> there's a blank line at the end of your crontab file, as cron requires a
PW> newline after each entry.

There was no blank line, but there is now. It still does not work
though!? I use 'crontab -e' as root, and this line:

*/5 * * * * /projects/proximus/bin/restart_proximus.sh

As I remember crontab used to mail root is there was any problems, but
I get no mails, and my script does not run!? Any ideas?

/Søren

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Re: How do I make a start script

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 09:06:49AM +0200, Søren Neigaard wrote:
| I need to make a script that can find the PID for a Java application,
| where the process string contains 'proximus', and 'kill -9' that
| process. My Java process spawns quite some threads, so I need to kill
| the main process, not one of the threads.
| 
| How do I do this, I have no clue, and no shell programming experience,
| so please explain it to me carefully, a complete example would just be
| great, with some explanation so I don't have to ask again :)

kill -9 `pidof java | grep proximus`

This assumes the program is run as "java".  (note: those are backtics
above, not single quotes)

HTH,
-D

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Re: debian is neat but how do I turn the computer off?

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 02:56:33PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
| indeed, booting with append=" apm=on nls_cp950 nls_cp437"
   ^^^
I don't think any part of the kernel will actually do anything with
those arguments.

| and allows shutdown -h now to really poweroff the whole computer.

Good.

| However, no matter how I inquire to the kernel, e.g. lsmod, it doesn't
| mention apm.

$ cat /proc/apm

lsmod isn't going to list stuff that isn't a module.  The
debian-packaged 2.2 kernels have apm built-in, not as a module.
(I presume you're using kernel 2.2.20.  Is that right?)

| Also my futile attempt to load those two code pages doesn't get any
| mention of success or failure in /var/log/*.  I was trying to read
| Chinese vfat filenames.

How about including the commands you've tried and their output here?
I can't give a success example because I'm using a custom-built kernel
that doesn't have those modules.

I just installed the kernel-image-2.2.20 package so I could see,
/lib/modules/2.2.20/fs/nls_cp950.o is right there.  Simply running
'modprobe nls_cp950' will load the module.
 
| Also dmesg is not in the log rotation scheme, why?

Probably so you can still see the boot log in 3 months or so.  It's
not going to get bigger because you haven't been rebooting :-).  The
file /var/log/dmesg gets overwritten each time you boot.

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Re: Problems getting crontab to execute my script

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Søren Neigaard wrote:

> Here is my crontab line (as root):
> 
> 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * 
> /projects/proximus/bin/restart_proximus.sh
> 
> Should this not call my script every 5 minutes?

You can use */5 instead of your list, for every 5 minutes; and make sure
there's a blank line at the end of your crontab file, as cron requires a
newline after each entry.

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Re: libfreetype6 or pango broken

[David Odin]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 12:10:43PM +0200, David Odin wrote:
> 
>Hi,
> 
>  I'm using Sid, so I expect some problems, that's why this mail isn't a
>  complain but really a bug report.
> 
>  Since yesterday, as I've apt-get update/upgrade my system, I cannot
>  compile any program which use gtk+-2.0. From what I've seen, the only
>  updated package  which is related to  gtk+-2.0  is libfreetype6(-dev).
>  And the error message is always the  same,  during linking (got from  a
>  config.log):
>  gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -Wall -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
>  -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -g -O2
>  -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
>  -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include
>  -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
>  -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include conftest.c   -lgtk-x11-2.0
>  -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangox-1.0
>  -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0
>  1>&5
>  /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Seek_Stream'
>  /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Get_Short'
>  /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Forget_Frame'
>  /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Access_Frame'
>  /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Get_Long'
>  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> 
>  looking  at this, two  things come in mind: either pango should be
>  updated to work with the new libfreetype6 or  the libfreetype6  should
>  be  fixed.
> 
>  I guess  the correct answer is  the former.
> 
   I can confirm: I've just  rebuild pango from source, and the problem
disappear. So rebuilding the pango package with the new  libfreetype6
should fix  the whole  thing.

 Regards,

  DindinX

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Re: Nasty X + Mozilla bug...

[Gerhard Gaussling]

Hi Karsten

Am Samstag, 15. Juni 2002 08:49 schrieb Karsten M. Self:

> What happens if you disable font sizing via a user CSS?  Like I
> do  ;-)
>
> http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Download/userContent.css

That may stops mozilla from crashing x by rendering huge fonts, but 
I'm wondering if it breaks the page layout.

regards

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Installing XFree 4.2

[Ronald Castillo]

Hello.. I'm currently running the version of XFree 4.1 that was
installed with woody but I was planning to install XFree 4.2, but I have
some questions before I do:

First of all, what is the best way to install it? I have read about some
debs that have problems and I have already downloaded the source files,
but I would like to know first before doing anything.

Second, the help file tells me to disable xdm before installing.  In my
case I use kdm, so I think I have to disable that one instead.  How can
I do that?  How can I re-enable it later?

Am I going to be able to configure the new version of XFree using
Debconf (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86) or am I going to have to
reconfigure it manually?

Is apt-get or dselect going to have problems with my new install? I ask
this because if I install from source I think apt-get may get messed up
and it might try to remove my install.

Any other tips or advices you can give me?

Thanks a lot for your help on this and sorry for asking so much.  It's
the first time I have a Debian system running well and I don't want it
to stop working well because of a mistake.

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Problems getting crontab to execute my script

[Søren Neigaard]

I have made a script that restarts a Java app., and I have no trouble
running it manually. But when I try to run it with crontab, nothing
happends!?

Here is my crontab line (as root):

0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * 
/projects/proximus/bin/restart_proximus.sh

Should this not call my script every 5 minutes?

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diald won't respond

[if . frijns]

Dear all,

I installed Debian 2.2r6, installed a ppp-dialup link. This works fine with 
'pon provider'
I automated it with diald so it responds when there is an ISP-request an brings 
the link
down after som idle time. So far, so good.

I recently installed a new kernel 2.4.18. This look OK, but diald is dead 
(process is running thou). It won't respond
to commands such as 'lynx', 'route' etc. Everything look the same as with 
2.2r6. Same scripts are there, 
diald-process is running.

Reinstalled diald while 2.4.18 is active, no change. ppp is working fine (pon 
provider establishes the link). Running 2.2r6
(2.2.20 kernel) everything works fine, including diald.

What could be the problem here? Any clues?

Anybody could help a little???

Thanx in advance,
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libfreetype6 or pango broken

[David Odin]

   Hi,

 I'm using Sid, so I expect some problems, that's why this mail isn't a
 complain but really a bug report.

 Since yesterday, as I've apt-get update/upgrade my system, I cannot
 compile any program which use gtk+-2.0. From what I've seen, the only
 updated package  which is related to  gtk+-2.0  is libfreetype6(-dev).
 And the error message is always the  same,  during linking (got from  a
 config.log):
 gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -Wall -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
 -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -g -O2
 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include
 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include
 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include conftest.c   -lgtk-x11-2.0
 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangox-1.0
 -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0
 1>&5
 /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Seek_Stream'
 /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Get_Short'
 /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Forget_Frame'
 /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Access_Frame'
 /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so: undefined reference to `FT_Get_Long'
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

 looking  at this, two  things come in mind: either pango should be
 updated to work with the new libfreetype6 or  the libfreetype6  should
 be  fixed.

 I guess  the correct answer is  the former.

Regards,

DindinX
 
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Re: Unix-only analog to WinPopup?

[Eric G. Miller]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 01:55:39AM -0700, nate wrote:
> 
> > Using "apt-cache search" doesn't show much.  (Unless I'm using
> > the wrong keyword to search by!)
> 
> 
> while i am not certain what your end goal is, rpc.walld is
> a cool program, it won't do a popup(as far as i know) but it can
> broadcast a message out to connected servers on a network. i
> didn't even know it existed until i saw it in action on one of my
> sun boxes, a NFS server broadcasted to the clients that it was
> shutting down. pretty neat (to me).
> 
> i am not sure how(or if) to send a message using it ..

I think xmessage will work over a network via the -display option.
Course, you need permission to connect to the remote X server...

Missed the original post, so not sure if that's what your looking
for...

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Unidentified subject!

[Vankó Zoltán]

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Re: Unix-only analog to WinPopup?

[nate]

> Using "apt-cache search" doesn't show much.  (Unless I'm using
> the wrong keyword to search by!)


while i am not certain what your end goal is, rpc.walld is
a cool program, it won't do a popup(as far as i know) but it can
broadcast a message out to connected servers on a network. i
didn't even know it existed until i saw it in action on one of my
sun boxes, a NFS server broadcasted to the clients that it was
shutting down. pretty neat (to me).

i am not sure how(or if) to send a message using it ..

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Re: Diagnosing serial ports

[nate]

> I'm beginning to wonder if some other process has locked up the serial
> port (although fuser -v /dev/ttyS1 shows nothing) or if I'm missing some
> module or kernel option.  I know this is speculative, but if anyone's got
> an idea I'd be very grateful.
>
> This is woody running custom-built kernel 2.4.18.


i had a similar problem with this server im using, trying to get a
serial console., it drove me up the $#$%@ wall for months. finally
on tuesday night it failed again(ethernet card errors), so i went
in, and tried getting serial console to work agian, wouldn't work.

so i ran strace on the getty process, and turns out I did have a serial
console, i just could not see anything on the remote end, i managed
to login and issue commands, but the remote terminal was always blank.

i guess one of the pins is bad on the com port, once i switched to another
com port(had to crack the case and install one, damn board doesn't have
2 onboard ports), it worked immediately.

so try strace, see if you see data being sent. it should also tell you
if for some reason it cannot open the serial port.

and if you have anything else to use on the serial port to verify
that it's working(e.g, enabled in bios, and kernel detects it properly
at the right i/o and irq address) that would be good. if your board
has 2 serial ports you could do a serial console to the other port,
with a null modem cable..just edit /etc/inittab, change the line that
says for serial console and to telinit q, you should get a serial console.

or if you have a modem or other serial device..

good luck

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Re: /etc/printcap with CUPS & Openoffice 1.0

[nate]

> I had a similar problem with wordperfect 7. I used "lpr -o raw"
> with cups to solve the problem.
>


where did you use the lpr? did/does wordperfect have a way to
specify a command line printer command? seems most X apps do,
gnotepad+, netscape 4.7x, adobe acrobat, some kde apps, but
star/open office doesn't from what i can see..

thanks!

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Re: Is the default debian machine ripe for port attack?

[nate]

> is the standard procedure to comment them out one by one in
> /etc/inetd.conf, at least the ones I would never use or worse, let folks
> connect to when i call my ISP?   I see hosts.deny is also wide open.

comment them out ..remove the ones totally that you would never
use. to find out which packages they are, check what command line
inetd.conf uses to call the package and do dpkg -S  it should
tell you what package


>
> Is the default debian machine a security eyesore, oren ports and all?

depends, if you do a full install i think it is yes ..also last i checked
BIND still runs as root.(by default)

> same time.  What, did I hit "I'm a major ISP" in tasksel by accident?

not sure, but i haven't used tasksel in ages, when i install a system
i do a bare install(when i get to tasksel i just go to FINISH, and let
it do the base install). then install things as i need. if i want
X on the system i install something that uses X like gnome-terminal
and apt-get tags all the dependencies for me..i get about 150 packages
in 1 go :)

>
> Anyways, do "security professionals recommend that the debian system be
> toned down by the user after installation"?

as a security person myself(not sure if i am a professional, my friends
refer to me as one though), i would highly reccomend it. or at least
firewall inbound connections. my co workers call me a security nazi so
i go well beyond just firewalling in most cases..

>
> Anyways, before I figure all that out, I suppose I'll do in
> /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/00-ipppd: echo  9 13 21 23 25 37 79 110 111 113 119 143
> 220 444 515 1024 4557 4559 8080 8081 20012|
>  xargs -n 1 ipchains -A input -i ppp0 -p  TCP --syn -j DENY -l
>  --destination-port

i would completely shut off any services you don't need and remove
the ones you won't need.

i run ssh, i don't run ftp(unless theres a specific requirement for it),
i don't run pop3 or imap4(on a public ip at least), i run sslwrap for
POP3/SSL and IMAP4/SSL and tunnel it to a localhost pop3/imap4 server,
i run identd for irc, 119 is nntp? i havent used that in years, 444
i dont know what it is, 515 is printer, would firewall or shut it off,
1024 should usually be open(its probably being used by BIND?), 4557 4559
i dont know what that is 8080 and 8081 i dunno, 200012 i dunno either.
I also firewall ports 700:1023 most of those ports are used by rpc
services, if your using any(usually UDP), rpc.statd is the worst offender
taking a new random port between ~700 and 1023 every time its loaded.
if you don't need/want NFS or other rpc stuff, take em out.

when i audit a machine i don't just depend on nmap, i love lsof, i run

lsof | grep LISTEN

and

lsof | grep UDP

to find all the services that are listening. on my really secure systems
i restrict ssh logins to key only(no passwords accepted), name servers
run as non root, in chroot, with zone transfer restrictions set to
slave nameservers only. mail server runs (as much as possible) as non
root. ldap server runs completely as non root and i use the kernel
transparent proxy to forward ports below 1024 to ports above 1024.
i install andtune logcheck to email me reports on system logs.
for more secure enviornments i use transparent bridging systems to
monitor traffic with snort/demarc/tcpdump, syslog servers, and of
course SSL/SSH for all communications

debian can do most of the above, but it takes a LOT of time to
get it done, would be nice if there was some of it set securely by
default.

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Re: /etc/printcap with CUPS & Openoffice 1.0

[nate]

>> "nate" == nate  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]

> I can't really help you with your printing problem, since I don't print
> From Star/Open Office, but you can save a step in your workaround.  If
> you run spadmin, you can create a PDF writer which basically runs ps2pdf
> for you.

ok cool. ill try that! sounds neat

>
> You may also want to try converting the PDF file back to ps using
> pdftops or pdf2ps (I don't know what the difference is, but they're both
> installed on my system), and printing the resulting ps file.  I've found
> that that sometimes helps with bad ps files.

ok

>
> It looks like what is happening is that Star/Open Office is generating
> bad PostScript.  CUPS passes it off the printer driver, so as far as CUPS
> is concerned, the file's printed.  The driver barfs on the bad
> PostScript, so it doesn't actually send anything to the printer, but
> can't notify CUPS that something's wrong.

i suppose its possible, kind of strange though
>
> PS.  Doesn't the LaserJet 4000 speak PostScript natively?  Or is it just
> certain models?  If yours does, it may be worth using a normal PPD
> instead of the foomatic driver.  A Google search on "HP LaserJet 4000
> PPD" reveals http://hp.sourceforge.net/ where you can download such a
> file.

i think mine does, im no printing expert, i don't print much but
i will take a look at that url.


thanks!

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How do I make a start script

[Søren Neigaard]

I need to make a script that can find the PID for a Java application,
where the process string contains 'proximus', and 'kill -9' that
process. My Java process spawns quite some threads, so I need to kill
the main process, not one of the threads.

How do I do this, I have no clue, and no shell programming experience,
so please explain it to me carefully, a complete example would just be
great, with some explanation so I don't have to ask again :)

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Re: How to get the ALSA driver to start at boot?

[Steven Yap]

On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 07:18, Ivo Wever wrote:
> Simon Law wrote:
> > You should add the correct module lines (that you would put in
> > modconf) in /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9
> > 
> I couldn't gather the format of a module line from the alsa docs and it 
> isn't in the example. What should such a line look like?
> 

Here's what I added to /etc/modutils/aliases:

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd

# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore  

#ALSA portion
alias snd-card-0 snd-cmipci

# OSS/Free portion
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss


Replace the snd-cmipci above with snd-via8233.  You can also place the 
lines above in their own file under /etc/modutils/.  Run
/sbin/update-modules to regenerate the /etc/modules.conf file.  

Install alsa-utils and use alsamixer-0.9 to set your output levels.

That should do it.

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Is the default debian machine ripe for port attack?

[Dan Jacobson]

Oh great, I chose the woody home user installation setup, and after
putting
exit #until i know what it does
as the first line of many of the /etc/init.d/* files, then notice
[using "nmap" which I downloaded] all these things listening to open ports:

discard,daytime,ftp,telnet,smtp,time,finger,pop3,sunrpc,auth,nntp,
imap2,imap3,snpp,printer,unknown,fax,hylafax,webcache,tproxy,vboxd

is the standard procedure to comment them out one by one in
/etc/inetd.conf, at least the ones I would never use or worse, let
folks connect to when i call my ISP?   I see hosts.deny is also wide
open.

Is the default debian machine a security eyesore, oren ports and all?
True, I was just connecting to myself on my test but anyways, I
clearly remember choosing the humble home user mode in tasksel that
day when I installed woody.  What's the big idea of turning me into a
big Times Square of flashing lights and pop3 imap2 imap3 etc. servers
the likes of which I've never even connected to before myself, and all
at the same time.  What, did I hit "I'm a major ISP" in tasksel by
accident?

Anyways, do "security professionals recommend that the debian system
be toned down by the user after installation"? 

Anyways, before I figure all that out, I suppose I'll do in 
/etc/ppp/ip-up.d/00-ipppd:
echo  9 13 21 23 25 37 79 110 111 113 119 143 220 444 515 1024 4557 4559 8080 
8081 20012|
  xargs -n 1 ipchains -A input -i ppp0 -p  TCP --syn -j DENY -l 
--destination-port
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Re: debian is neat but how do I turn the computer off?

[Dan Jacobson]

indeed, booting with append=" apm=on nls_cp950 nls_cp437"
causes the second line not to appear in /var/log/messages anymore:
Jun 14 09:10:51 debian kernel: apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 
1.13)
Jun 14 09:10:51 debian kernel: apm: disabled on user request.
and allows shutdown -h now to really poweroff the whole computer.

However, no matter how I inquire to the kernel, e.g. lsmod, it doesn't
mention apm.  Also my futile attempt to load those two code pages
doesn't get any mention of success or failure in /var/log/*.  I was
trying to read Chinese vfat filenames.

Also dmesg is not in the log rotation scheme, why?
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Re: Nasty X + Mozilla bug...

[Karsten M. Self]

on Wed, Jun 12, 2002, Eric G. Miller (egm2@jps.net) wrote:
> See http://theregister.co.uk/content/55/25689.html for a nasty X
> crashing (and possibly machine crashing) bug regarding huge fonts.
> 
> Guess it's back to links/lynx/w3m or whatever for a little while.

What happens if you disable font sizing via a user CSS?  Like I do  ;-)

http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Download/userContent.css

Peace.

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