Re: install macromedia coldfusion MX have problem

2002-12-10 Thread Shawn Lamson
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 06:04:35 -0700
eric lin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> that seem is a big defect, since what old can use , but new can not. 
> Would any body have opinion so that.  New should improve not retrograde
> 
> eric
> 
> nate wrote:
> > eric lin said:
> > 
> >>Dear Linuxer;
> >>
> >>   I tried to install macromedia's coldfusion MX
> > 
> > 
> >>6/libjava.so: symbol __libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > probably cannot use it on debian woody. it is linked against glibc 2.0
> > which is really old. I think debian hamm(1998) was the most recent version
> > of debian to sport glibc 2.0
I am no expert , but the Ericom "PowerTerm" for linux worked on woody (at least my 
install) and now I get the same message when trying to install on sid:
Error occurred during initialization of VM
Unable to load native library: 
/tmp/install.dir.9219/Linux/resource/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so: symbol __libc_wait, 
version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
callerio:/opt/PowerTerm# 

If anyone knows a way around this OR another Emulator that can do SCO-ANSI please let 
me know.  I will eventually write to Ericom to ask them to compile a version against 
the new glibc.

Shawn
 
> > nate
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sincere Eric
> www.linuxspice.com
> linux pc for sale
> 
> 
> -- 
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: need help on webserver or apache

2002-12-10 Thread eric lin
pasha wrote:

Check your apache's log to see what goes wrong...

tail -f /var/log/apache/errors.log

then restart your apache (using a different term window) and watch what goes
in your errors.log. If you don't find anything useful during restart of
apache - then see what happens when you access the directory with your
mozilla. Also, make sure that the directory in question is registered in
your httpd.conf ( directive)...

make sure you have the modules, and apache knows about them...
for example, you might need to add the following line to your httpd.conf:

AddModule mod_dir.c

and then restart your apache. After the modules have been loaded, you can
simply comment out the above line from your httpd.conf file.
The same applies to your cgi.

:P

I add these in the end of /etc/apache/httpd.conf

it turn out my site can not be access altogether

please feel free to modify, probably the order is not correct or other 
factor.  It have 2 loadModule in the front part.

sincere Eric


  AllowOverride None
  Option ExecCGI
  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all



  AllowOverride None
  Options ExecCGI
  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all






AddModule mod_dir.c


DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi



ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/


AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI
Order allow,deny
Allow from all






On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 07:08:37AM -0700, eric lin wrote:


pasha wrote:


You should be modifying /etc/apache/httpd.conf (unless you have built the
source by hand - then: find /etc -iname "httpd.conf")

According to the documentation for apache 1.3 - you should be loading
mod_dir module somewhere in your httpd.conf (usually it is already 
included,
but could be commented out - in which case you should uncomment the line;
otherwise, this is the line from my httpd.conf:

LoadModule dir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so

then, somewhere in your httpd.conf you should also include the following
lines:


  DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi

  
This 'should do the trick'.

although thanks your advice, but after I modify(adding that 3 lines) my 
/etc/apache/httpd.conf
then reboot
open mozilla 1.2.1-3 newest from debian upgrade of unstable, type in 
http://www.linuxspice.com/checkout
it still a piece of white
but if you click my wite's bottom's hyperlink checkout,  it do can show 
the content I edit in my /var/www/checkout/index.html
please help again or any linuxer's advice
sincere Eric



As far as your cgi's are concerned, debianized system would often keep its
cgi scripts in /usr/lib/cgi-bin - but you should make sure that your
httpd.conf has appropriate entries for cgi's:

LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/


  AllowOverride None
  Options ExecCGI
  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all


[these lines were taken from the default httpd.conf supplied with debian's
apache package]

Hope this helps... if you are having problems with cgi's in apache, you
should read over the following:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_cgi.html

:P

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 04:51:50AM -0700, eric lin wrote:



but what exact command i should use or what file I should modify/  I 
search whole my disk only

www:/# find . | grep mod_dir
/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.en
/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.html
/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.ja.jis
/usr/lib/apache/1.3/110mod_dir.info
/usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so
www:/# cd /var/www
www:/var/www# DirectoryIndex index.html /cgi-bin/index.pl
bash: DirectoryIndex: command not found
www:/var/www#

/usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so  related

also I have a source code line is

http://www.linuxspice.com/cgi-bin/entrance.cgi"; >

in my websource, should I create a directory cgi-bin and create a file 
name entrance.cgi in that dir in /var/www?


highly apprecaite your help on this issue

pasha wrote:


Have you tried specifying a 'DirectoryIndex' directive?

For info, go to:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex

:P

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:12:32AM -0700, eric lin wrote:




Dear Linuxer:

I also have a webserver and website question,  I create a directory 
checkout in my  /var/www  which contain index.html itself
but if I type in any browser
http;//www.myregistereddomain.com/checkout

it did not show the content in my /var/www/checkout/index.html

please help
--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale




--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale






--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale







--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: after upgrade, gnome not allowed login, and other

2002-12-10 Thread eric lin
Rob Weir wrote:

On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 07:29:49PM -0700, eric lin wrote:


Dear linux:

 After upgrade, I can not login in gnome, 


Are you running sid?  You might have the broken bonobo-activation
package installed.  If your mirror is out of date, go get the latest
release from http.us.debian.org.


my source is unstable so it is newest, I checked after tonoght's updae 
upgrade, so I reboot at login window choose gnome, it response two heavy 
flash then return to login window
so not work, need advanced help again


 It seem at upgrade process 
ever ask me install xfree4.2.1 I reply yes(next), but Kerob m, I reply 


Kerob?



www:/home/fsshl# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back
 balsa debian-policy gabber glade-gnome gnome-applets gnome-control-center
 gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnumeric libgd1 linuxconf netpbm parted
 python-gnome
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 14  not upgraded.



Are you running sid or sarge?  In sid, packages sometimes get held back
because their dependencies haven't all been uploaded, or approved by the
ftpmasters or whatever.  Also, don't use linuxconf.  It's crap.  And it
can damage your system.


my begining is progeny1.0 2.2.18 then load 4 or 5 deb of pppoeconf from 
first disk of sid, then download from unstable kernel image 2.4.20, and 
upgrade again to 2.4.20-2
-rob



--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: cryptoloop as user?

2002-12-10 Thread Matthias Hentges
Am Die, 2002-12-10 um 16.20 schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 07:15:08PM +0100, ernst wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > I'm useing cryptoloop to protect my data on a ibmx20 laptop. Im running
> > 2.4.19 kernel with the cryptoloop and cryptoapi modules innstalled.
> > 
> > As root, I have created a file with dd, used blowfish as cipher and
> > mounted it trough loop0, so far so good.
> > 
> > But I am wondering if there is an easyer way to du this, I would like to
> > do this in bootup, as user.
> > 
> > The way I'm doint it now is (as root):
> > losetup -e blowfish -k 128 /dev/loop0 /usr/tmp/my_crypt_file
> > mount /dev/loop0 /home/ernst/mnt/my_crypt_file
> > chown -R ernst:users /home/ernst/mnt/crypt
> > 
> > Then I'm there, I can work on my docs as a user, but I'm wondering if
> > there is an easyer way of soing it?
> > 
> > To release this again I'm doing :
> > umount /dev/loop0
> > losetup -d /dev/loop0
> 
> There isn't really any way to delegate this sort of authority under
> Linux at the moment,

Yes there is. Edit your fstab and you are done.

/home/$USER/crypto0 /some/dir   reiserfs   \ 
defaults,noauto,loop,encryption=twofish,user0 0

[...]

-- 

Matthias Hentges
[www.hentges.net] -> PGP + HTML are welcome
ICQ: 97 26 97 4   -> No files, no URLs

My OS: Debian Woody: Geek by Nature, Linux by Choice



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: FYI: Linksys router vulnerability

2002-12-10 Thread Josh Rehman
It's interesting, the advisory claims that this can be exploited even
when remote admin is disabled. I tried to break my own router with their
advice, but it didn't work. (Maybe a kind soul has already cracked my
router and updated my firmware for me? :-)

Presumably you can reset the password with this:
http://192.168.1.1/Gozila.cgi?setPasswd=hola&RemoteManagement=1&.xml=1

(replace the ip with the ip of your router's local interface) but this
didn't do nuttin for me...

That's good news. 

I think.
> -Original Message-
> From: Craig Dickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:52 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Derrick 'dman' Hudson
> Subject: Re: FYI: Linksys router vulnerability
> 
> Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> 
> > While this isn't about debian, there are probably a good number of
> > debian users who have Linksys router devices on their home network.
> > Well, that router may be insecure :
> > http://www.corest.com/common/showdoc.php?idx=263&idxseccion=10
> 
> Old news, and these bugs are only remotely exploitable if you have
> Remote Administration enabled. RA is turned off by default, and most
> people have no reason to have ever turned it on.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> --
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: from intel onboard Lan and audo to install 2.4.50

2002-12-10 Thread eric lin




some say newest kernel 2.5.50 can solve all above hardware(intel board 
on board LAN and audio ) problem, so I download full tar.gz, choose what 
my hardware fit
make install


Use make-kpkg in the kernel-package package.


I did,
but it terminate with error

 gcc -Wp,-MD,drivers/pci/.quirks.o.d -D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common 
-fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 
-Iarch/i386/mach-generic -Iarch/i386/mach-defaults -nostdinc 
-iwithprefix include-DKBUILD_BASENAME=quirks -DKBUILD_MODNAME=quirks 
  -c -o drivers/pci/quirks.o drivers/pci/quirks.c
drivers/pci/quirks.c: In function `quirk_ioapic_rmw':
drivers/pci/quirks.c:354: `sis_apic_bug' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
drivers/pci/quirks.c:354: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
drivers/pci/quirks.c:354: for each function it appears in.)
make[3]: *** [drivers/pci/quirks.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** [drivers/pci] Error 2
make[1]: *** [drivers] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/fsshl/linux-2.5.50'
make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2
www:/home/fsshl/linux-2.5.50#

if someone know it be modifed, please drop me a note where I can get the
fixed source.
it's on 2.5.50.ac-1 patched 2.5.50 from kernel.org
hihgly apprecaite



error happen, I justify one of it, first one, in 
linux-2.4.50/include/asm-i386/io_apic.h
containing sis_apic_bug  not include its .h file


As Colin already said, if you can't handle this, you shouldn't be using
2.5 kernels.  Some of them don't build, and many (most) have serious
bugs that could cause data loss.  If you want to go ahead with this,
you'll have to get help from lkml, but be prepared to be thoroughly
roasted.



also I have difficult(unsuccess) patch 2.5.50
I did
gzip -cd patch-2.5.50-ac1.gz  | patch -p0


  ^
s/0/1/  

-rob


--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [OT] Remember when hard disk sizes were in MiB?

2002-12-10 Thread Doug MacFarlane
On 10 Dec 2002, 23:18:30, Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
> I was digging through some old papers and found this from nearly a
> decade ago:
> 
> (Dec. 21)
>  I'm getting tired of lazy, slovenly, good-for-nothing programmers
> wasting my hard-earned hard disk space with their frivolous code.
>  My first PC hard disk had a 10MB capacity. These days, I can think of
> individual applications that consume more space.

In one of my more perverse claims to pride, I actually issue a purchase order
to IBM for a 5 MB 5.25" Full Height hard-drive for $4100 in 1984, to be installed
in an IBM PC.

And it was a godsend .  .  . 

When PC DASD (Hard-Drives) hit $1/MB, I was in shock.  Now it's $1/GB.
When PC RAM hit $1/MB I was really in shock.  Now you can get 1 GB or RAM
for a little over $100 . . . 

I hate being old.

madmac


-- 
Doug MacFarlane
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: need help on webserver or apache

2002-12-10 Thread pasha
Check your apache's log to see what goes wrong...

tail -f /var/log/apache/errors.log

then restart your apache (using a different term window) and watch what goes
in your errors.log. If you don't find anything useful during restart of
apache - then see what happens when you access the directory with your
mozilla. Also, make sure that the directory in question is registered in
your httpd.conf ( directive)...

make sure you have the modules, and apache knows about them...
for example, you might need to add the following line to your httpd.conf:

AddModule mod_dir.c

and then restart your apache. After the modules have been loaded, you can
simply comment out the above line from your httpd.conf file.
The same applies to your cgi.

:P

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 07:08:37AM -0700, eric lin wrote:
> pasha wrote:
> >You should be modifying /etc/apache/httpd.conf (unless you have built the
> >source by hand - then: find /etc -iname "httpd.conf")
> >
> >According to the documentation for apache 1.3 - you should be loading
> >mod_dir module somewhere in your httpd.conf (usually it is already 
> >included,
> >but could be commented out - in which case you should uncomment the line;
> >otherwise, this is the line from my httpd.conf:
> >
> >LoadModule dir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so
> >
> >then, somewhere in your httpd.conf you should also include the following
> >lines:
> >
> >
> >DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi
> >
> >
> >This 'should do the trick'.
> 
> although thanks your advice, but after I modify(adding that 3 lines) my 
> /etc/apache/httpd.conf
> then reboot
> open mozilla 1.2.1-3 newest from debian upgrade of unstable, type in 
> http://www.linuxspice.com/checkout
> it still a piece of white
> but if you click my wite's bottom's hyperlink checkout,  it do can show 
> the content I edit in my /var/www/checkout/index.html
> please help again or any linuxer's advice
> sincere Eric
> 
> 
> >
> >As far as your cgi's are concerned, debianized system would often keep its
> >cgi scripts in /usr/lib/cgi-bin - but you should make sure that your
> >httpd.conf has appropriate entries for cgi's:
> >
> >LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so
> >
> >ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
> >
> >
> >AllowOverride None
> >Options ExecCGI
> >Order allow,deny
> >Allow from all
> >
> >
> >[these lines were taken from the default httpd.conf supplied with debian's
> >apache package]
> >
> >Hope this helps... if you are having problems with cgi's in apache, you
> >should read over the following:
> >http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_cgi.html
> >
> >:P
> >
> >On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 04:51:50AM -0700, eric lin wrote:
> >
> >>but what exact command i should use or what file I should modify/  I 
> >>search whole my disk only
> >>
> >>www:/# find . | grep mod_dir
> >>/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.en
> >>/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.html
> >>/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.ja.jis
> >>/usr/lib/apache/1.3/110mod_dir.info
> >>/usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so
> >>www:/# cd /var/www
> >>www:/var/www# DirectoryIndex index.html /cgi-bin/index.pl
> >>bash: DirectoryIndex: command not found
> >>www:/var/www#
> >>
> >>/usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so  related
> >>
> >>also I have a source code line is
> >>
> >> >>section="http://www.linuxspice.com/cgi-bin/entrance.cgi"; >
> >>
> >>in my websource, should I create a directory cgi-bin and create a file 
> >>name entrance.cgi in that dir in /var/www?
> >>
> >>
> >>highly apprecaite your help on this issue
> >>
> >>pasha wrote:
> >>
> >>>Have you tried specifying a 'DirectoryIndex' directive?
> >>>
> >>>For info, go to:
> >>>http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex
> >>>
> >>>:P
> >>>
> >>>On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:12:32AM -0700, eric lin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> Dear Linuxer:
> 
> I also have a webserver and website question,  I create a directory 
> checkout in my  /var/www  which contain index.html itself
> but if I type in any browser
> http;//www.myregistereddomain.com/checkout
> 
> it did not show the content in my /var/www/checkout/index.html
> 
> please help
> -- 
> Sincere Eric
> www.linuxspice.com
> linux pc for sale
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>-- 
> >>Sincere Eric
> >>www.linuxspice.com
> >>linux pc for sale
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sincere Eric
> www.linuxspice.com
> linux pc for sale


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: spamassassin installation help

2002-12-10 Thread Sandip P Deshmukh
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 05:26:43PM +0100, Matthias Hentges wrote:
> Am Die, 2002-12-10 um 10.25 schrieb Sandip P Deshmukh:
> > do i just install spamassasin as it comes or do i have to tweak it?
> 
> At least with postfix you'll have to integrate SA manually. It should be
> the same with Exim.
> You may want to have a look at this:
> 
> http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/config_docs/exim3_spamassassin.html

it was wonderful documentation. did just what it said and i am already
running spamassasin. there is one difficulty, though. it refers to some
filters in exim.conf file. could someone tell me, where do i place these filters in 
the file? in the beginning? in some specific section? in the end?

the filter per se is given in full. however, not its location in the
exim.conf file.

> But using .procmailrc will be the most simple way to do it IMO.

i am still a bit confused about procmail. i use mutt anyway. and
although i have not yet used folders. but i guess, i can use folders and
folder hooks to sort mail into different mailboxes. do i still need to
use procmail?

> > spamassasin refers to one librazor package. it was not available. i found razor,
> > though, is it one and the same?
> 
> Yes i think so. At least my SA started using Razor when i installed the
> package "razor".

how do i make sure that my spamassasin is using razor? i already have
the package installed.

-- 
regards,
 
sandip p deshmukh
--***


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Debian hotswap and 5 9's

2002-12-10 Thread nate
John Griffiths said:

> Oh c'mon, iv'e got a frewall here running on an old HP pavillion 7400
> (PII200) it's downtime's well less than 5 minutes a year.

that hardly counts when someone thinks of "5 9s" i think. I have a
P200 that has more then 600 days uptime but I wouldn't trust it to
anything critical. both yours and my systems have probably a dozen
single points of failure, any of which will bring the system completely
down, many of which will cause severe damage and probable data loss.

Some systems, especially larger ones, a reboot can take more then 5
minutes, there goes the 5 9s right there, don't think about upgrading
the kernel or anything, better hope theres no security problems or that
you run a trusted system!

getting 600 days of uptime is a matter of luck mostly on systems
like ours. Also 5 9s would involve extensive power protection, backup
generators and other things(my former employer had two 3 hour power
outages in the space of 2 months this past summer, my biggest UPS
had 300 pounds of batteries on it, and it barely lasted 3 hours and
thats AFTER I shut down half the equipment connected to it to keep
the more critical stuff running). We didn't have the budget for
a generator.

> depends what it's being used for surely?

yes, I guess it too depends on perspective. Some people may think
they want 5 9s of uptime but in reality they don't care if they
are down for 5-10 hours accross a year's timeframe.

> (ok, and if soemthing DOES fail I'm down for a day)

which is funny, I read something recently, in theregister:

"When Microsoft goofed the DNS settings on its microsoft.com
servers recently, he figured the site would have to be up for
the next two hundred years to achieve five-nines uptime."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/28259.html

> having said that anyone who's todding "five 9's" around as a phrase
> probably wants to do something a bit more demanding.

either that or they don't know what they are talking about. my
previous company it seemed everything was "critical", but in reality,
it didn't matter if there was on the order of say 20-30 hours a year of
downtime on most servers. I mean, even our most critical servers
were down for more then 2 weeks while they were moved from washington
state to new hampshire on a truck. How many centuries to attempt to
regain 5 9s of uptime after that? :)

the places that I have worked at probably aim for 95% uptime to be
minimum. not sure how many hours or days a year of downtime that
calculates to ..


nate




-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: help configuring my monitor resolution...

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 12:28:28AM -0800, alan brown wrote:
> So my question is, How can I use the keyboard to kill X-Windows (as my
> mouse is dead)?  

ctrl-alt-backspace should kill X and return you to the command line.

> And while I'm at it, how can I truly shut down linux.  Because I am not
> offered that option from the login page.  Isn't there some simple set of
> keystrokes that will tell linux to shutdown from anywhere like
> ctrl-alt-delete does in Windows?

Run 'shutdown -h now' as root.

> Help is appreciated as I'm a recent windows convert and I'm struggling
> to process the linux functionality through my expectation of windows
> functionality.

Linux is more complicated, but it does have a weird sort of logic
(usually).  Once you get into the 'linux' way of things, it'll get a lot
easier.  F'r instance, whenever I want to configure some package on my
machine, I go poking around in the /etc/packagename directory, and read
through the documentation in /usr/share/doc/packagename/.  On windows,
however, I'm lost.  You should have seen me try to increase the PPP
dialup timeout today...

On a more general note, 'apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect',
followed by a 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86' _should_ get X
working for you.  The discover package should sniff out your video card
successfully (if it's recent-ish, anyhow) and mdetect and read-edid
should be able to figure out your mouse and monitor, respectively.

-rob



msg18349/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: floppy icon disappeared

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 04:41:41PM -0800, Cyberthor wrote:
> Hello
> 
> before floppy icon work good  at xwindow of gnome at desktop  then 
> 2 days ago it disappeared after boot up after update wvdial and libwvs 
> files installed  so one more of setserial need to install  from floppy 
> disk  cuz i get d/l of files at winx9 into floppy disk then i moved 
> disks moved to linux pc , anyway
> 
>  How i could get floppy icon back ? plse ?

It's been a while since I've used GNOME, but can't you just right click
on the desktop and re-add the floppy drive?

-rob



msg18348/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: problem compiling a new gcc version.

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 10:37:01PM +0100, Wim De Smet wrote:
> could it be that this is specific to my kernel or is it a configuration problem with 
>my current locales?
> I hope this is not too specific, I could mail to the gcc people but I haven't had 
>this problem under other
> systems so I figured it might be a misconfiguration somewhere?

I've no idea how to actually fix this, but I would recommend getting the
gcc-3.2 source package from sid and building that, so you don't clutter
up /usr/; plus, it's know to be buildable.

-rob



msg18347/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Severe bug in either afio or gpg, but I don't know which

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 08:25:12AM +, judy m. down  wrote:
> I am using afio and gpg as follows to create an archive that has each
> element encrypted asymmetrically to a user, i.e. with no key needed to
> encrypt. Almost all the time, it works perfectly. But for some directories,
> it fails about half of the time on about 10 percent of the files (which
> files fail changes each time).

I have no idea how to fix this, but I've (more than a few times) tarred
up my MailDir hierarchy, then compressed+encrypted it with GPG (both
using asymmetric and symmetric ciphers) quite successfully.  Any
particular reason you need to use afio rather than tar?

-rob



msg18346/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: apt-get problem

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 02:53:10PM +0100, Helgi Örn Helgason wrote:
> Hello all!
> 
> I have this problem since yesterday with apt-get on my laptop:
> --
> Reading Package Lists... Error!
> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
> E: Error occured while processing kmtrace (NewVersion1)
> E: Problem with MergeList 
> /var/lib/apt/lists/download.uk.kde.org_pub_kde_stable_latest_Debian_woody_._Packages
> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
> --
> changing the cache size in /etc/apt/apt.config 'APT::Cache-Limits [number];' did not 
>help and the problem persists, I cannot use apt at all!

How high did you set it?

> And now the same problem started on my stationary box too, I installed a program and 
>when I wanted to install another one about 30 min later I got:
> --
> Reading Package Lists... Error!
> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
> E: Error occured while processing kmtrace (NewVersion1)
> E: Problem with MergeList 
> /var/lib/apt/lists/download.uk.kde.org_pub_kde_stable_latest_Debian_woody_._Packages
> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.

Can this file be opened?  How does it look?  It should be of a similar
format to the output of 'apt-cache show bleh'.

-rob



msg18345/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: cryptoloop as user?

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 07:15:08PM +0100, ernst wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I'm useing cryptoloop to protect my data on a ibmx20 laptop. Im running
> 2.4.19 kernel with the cryptoloop and cryptoapi modules innstalled.
> 
> As root, I have created a file with dd, used blowfish as cipher and
> mounted it trough loop0, so far so good.
> 
> But I am wondering if there is an easyer way to du this, I would like to
> do this in bootup, as user.
> 
> The way I'm doint it now is (as root):
> losetup -e blowfish -k 128 /dev/loop0 /usr/tmp/my_crypt_file
> mount /dev/loop0 /home/ernst/mnt/my_crypt_file
> chown -R ernst:users /home/ernst/mnt/crypt
> 
> Then I'm there, I can work on my docs as a user, but I'm wondering if
> there is an easyer way of soing it?
> 
> To release this again I'm doing :
> umount /dev/loop0
> losetup -d /dev/loop0

There isn't really any way to delegate this sort of authority under
Linux at the moment, but you can work around it.  I have a similar
script that I manually run when I want access to my encrypted
filesystem, but I use 'sudo' to eliminate the need to be root.

-rob



msg18344/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: after upgrade, gnome not allowed login, and other

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 07:29:49PM -0700, eric lin wrote:
> Dear linux:
> 
>   After upgrade, I can not login in gnome, 

Are you running sid?  You might have the broken bonobo-activation
package installed.  If your mirror is out of date, go get the latest
release from http.us.debian.org.

>   It seem at upgrade process 
> ever ask me install xfree4.2.1 I reply yes(next), but Kerob m, I reply 

Kerob?

> www:/home/fsshl# apt-get dist-upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Calculating Upgrade... Done
> The following packages have been kept back
>   balsa debian-policy gabber glade-gnome gnome-applets gnome-control-center
>   gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnumeric libgd1 linuxconf netpbm parted
>   python-gnome
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 14  not upgraded.

Are you running sid or sarge?  In sid, packages sometimes get held back
because their dependencies haven't all been uploaded, or approved by the
ftpmasters or whatever.  Also, don't use linuxconf.  It's crap.  And it
can damage your system.

-rob



msg18343/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (library qt-mt) not found ???

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 04:33:36PM +0100, Bruno Boettcher wrote:
> Hello
> 
> just wondering, am trying to compile a program, and configure stops
> there... but i did indeed install that lib... so if anyone has an idea
> on what's going wrong.

Which program?  Setting the --with-qt-{include,lib} options should work,
since Qt dumps everything in one directory by default.

-rob



msg18342/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: DNS problem with Yahoo

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:04:56AM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> Again this appears to be the only site which is having any problems but
> it's a big one.  Before I begin the arduous process of finding a clueful
> human at Yahoo to talk to, can anyone spot mistakes in my setup which
> could be causing this problem?

How do your logs look?  Do they give any more info about wht postfix is
bouncing it?  Are you running a spamfilter or something that's a little
overzealous?

-rob



msg18341/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: build an overloaded linux server

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 07:53:50PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> For experimental requirement, I want to build an overloaded linux server in 
> which openssh is binding tcp port 22. The criteria is, when a ssh client is 
> connecting to the sshd on the overloaded one, the sshd will take more than 60 
> seconds to respond.(that is, tcp socket established but the sshd hangs over 
> 60 seconds)
> 
> Is there any trick to build this overloaded server? 

Can't think of any trick aside from hacking the Linux TCP/IP stack, or
adding a sleep(60) statement in the OpenSSH source right before it
accepts connections ;-)

More seriously, FreeBSD has a special network driver for faking broken
network connections like this.  No idea if Linux has anything similar,
but I'm sure someone has tried something like this, somewhere...

-rob



msg18340/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: EXIM relay for specific users

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 08:28:56PM -0800, Michael Olds wrote:
> I guess I didn't see the post with the RTFM and YFA. I said I read O'Reilly.
> I have read the manuals. I have searched Google and have a good collection
> of links. I have played with the configuration for more than a month
> now...first began (look in the archives...) in October. I work at it until I
> can't think of anything more to do and then ask. I don't think I am abusing
> the system. Either the answer to this question is not spelled out in the
> documentation or I am reading in incorrectly in some way that needs to be
> changed, either way I am stuck. (I did not see the series of answers Paul
> gave because I have not been connected to the list for the last month or
> more.)

I don't think Paul was too harsh, he just told you were the answer was.
True, the docs should probably explain this, since it's something quite
a few people seem interested in, but it has been answered on here
before.

It is true that the Debian list archive search tool is crap, I usually
just use google with '+site:lists.debian.org' or one of the fifty
million mirrors of the list archive out there.

-rob

p.s. Please trim your quotes down the neccessary bits, and please,
please, please don't top post, since it makes your mail much harder to
read.



msg18339/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: seting up debian on presario 1245 laptop

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:45:26PM -0300, Miguel Griffa wrote:
> Hi all,
> anyone has installed debian on a compaq presario 1245 (or similar) laptop?
> Could you help me a little in setting up sound?
> I'm having a real hard time setting up sound wiht alsa and 2.4.19 kernel
> the chipset is supported, because I previously had suse and sound worked.

What sort of problems?  Do you know which OSS or ALSA module it needs?
What happens when you try to modprobe that driver?

-rob



msg18338/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Exim permissions

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 06:31:56AM +, Pigeon wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 09:49:52PM +, Clive Standbridge wrote:
> > I have not heard that sudo is inherently insecure in any specific way
> > (but I'm not a long time sudo user).
> 
> I think it's a complexity issue. The sudo binary is about ten times
> the size of that of my one-line C program, and has far, far greater
> complexity, as well as allowing the user to, in principle, run _any_
> command as root. So it must offer many more points of attack. If I was
> to start writing more complex setuid-root programs to do a greater
> variety of things than just run one very specific command, it wouldn't
> take very long before the situation reversed.

The complexity issue is balanced by the fact that lots and lots of
people have looked at the source of sudo, and actively found holes in
it.  The point at which this becomes advantageous will vary depending on
circumstance, of course.

-rob



msg18337/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: DVD Player w/KDE 3

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:31:51AM -0500, David Ellis wrote:
> Has anyone had any luck with DVD Playback on Debian with KDE 3?
> 
> Can you point out a good player (and maybe a website) with a download and
> HOWTO?

I believe mplayer (www.mplayerhq.hu) can handle this, even DVDs with the
moronic CSS encryption enabled.

-rob



msg18336/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: LIrc & Linux 2.4.20

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 10:52:16AM +0100, Andreas Eichner wrote:
> Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2002 05:41 schrieb Eduard Titov:
> 
> > I've had the same error when compiling lirc on 2.4.19 kernel.
> > After upgading to the latest version of lirc everything compiled fine.
> 
> Are you using the lirc-modules-source package from Woody (0.6.5-1) ? It 
> seems to be the latest version for Woody or are you using another version 
> of LIrc?

The version of lirc-modules-source in woody is likely to be very old,
and may not work with newer kernels (>2.4.18, I guess).  Try getting the
version from sid (it doesn't seem to depend on anything not in woody).

-rob



msg18335/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Cannot shutdown Tomcat with GLIBC in unstable

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 07:02:19AM -0800, Charles Baker wrote:
> I just tried to shutdown Tomcat 4.1.12-2 using Sun JDK
> 1.3.1_03 on my box running unstable. I got the
> following undefined symbol message and Tomcat does not
> shutdown. Does anyone have a suggestion for what I
> should do other than kill the Tomcat pids? I wonder if
> I do that will Tomcat be able to restart?
> 
> usmghdebian:~# /usr/share/tomcat4/bin/shutdown.sh
> Using CATALINA_BASE:   /usr/share/tomcat4
> Using CATALINA_HOME:   /usr/share/tomcat4
> Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /usr/share/tomcat4/temp
> Using JAVA_HOME:   /usr/local/java1.3
> Error occurred during initialization of VM
> Unable to load native library:
> /usr/local/stow/jdk1.3.1_03/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so:
> symbol __libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not
> defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
> usmghdebian:~#

The Sun JDK1.3 is broken in sid now, since Sun used an internal glibc
symbol that they shouldn't have.  I think someone has told me that
blackdown has released a fixed 1.3 release, otherwise you'll have to use
the 1.4 and complain to Sun :)

-rob



msg18334/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Problems with internet browsing

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 07:43:18PM +0100, Ole Gammelsæter wrote:
> After a lot of searching for a solution to my problem I reinstalled 
> everything from scratch. One possible cause to my problems might be that some 
> of the necessary kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter modules was not loaded. I can now 
> browse the internet and send mail, but I can still not use the machine as a 
> gateway.
> Thanks to all who contributed.

Have you installed a proper Debian kernel using apt-get?  If you've done
that, then 'apt-get install ipmasq' and pointing clients at this box
should be enough.

-rob



msg18333/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: postgres upgrade failed.....

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 05:26:33PM +0100, Bruno Boettcher wrote:
> Hello
> 
> i got used to the automatic postgres upgrade... and stopped making
> myself dumps before upgrading... :(
> 
> and now i am stuck.. the automatic upgrade failed, and i don't know
> how to get this back...
> 
> i tried the migration file, but couldn't get something usable out of
> it...
> postgresql-dump -t db.out -dcivlp $PGDATA/../data.save issues an empty
> DB
> 
> so i tried fiddling by myself...
> i restored the pg_hba.conf file, started :
> dumpall/7.2/postmaster -i and tried:
> dumpall/7.2/pg_dumpall but get:
> psql: FATAL 1:  No pg_hba.conf entry for host localhost, user postgres,
>   database template1
> 
> 
> but there is a line for localhost set to trust in the access file
> again, i am a bit clueless...

I _think_ this is a known bug in the new postgres packages.  Have you
checked the BTS?

-rob



msg18332/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: msn4lin compilation or .deb

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 04:46:57PM +0100, chainy wrote:
> 
> I have been told about this program a while ago and try to compile it or make 
> it a .deb, but the results were awfull.
> 
> Anyone could tell me how did he/she did it?

I've never heard of this program, but it sounds like a MSN (shudder)
client for Linux.  Why not try gaim, or tkmsn or even gabber instead?
They're all Free, and included in Debian.

If you really want to use msn4lin, then just follow the build
instructions that came along with it, or write to the author asking for
help.

-rob



msg18331/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Mutt mail to Mozilla

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 10:19:31AM +, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 09:30 2002-12-05 +0100 hat Dennis Stosberg geschrieben:
> 
> >But still I wonder why anyone should want to use Mozilla instead of
> >Mutt...
> 
> Mozilla can intercept the mailto-links...

As can mutt (using urlview).

-rob



msg18330/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: nvidia-kernel-src: package generation fails in strange way

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 05:50:05PM +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 18:54, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> Therefore I ran 'CC= make-kpkg modules_image' which lead to the error
> described in my original mail.

You've set the CC environment variable to '', but it's still considered
defined by the shell.  I imagine that make-kpkg uses it if it's defined,
but it then realises it can't find an executable called ''.  I'm fairly
sure this is also the cause of your original problem.

> Doing a 'unset CC; make-kpkg modules_image' fixed it. I don't claim to
> understand, but it works

I'd guess that make-kpkg falls back on 'gcc' when CC is undefined (as
you just did).

-rob



msg18329/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: ICP Vortex RAID in Debian 3.0

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 06:16:25PM -0800, Karl R. Balsmeier wrote:
> My question is this:  Does anyone out there in userland have any experience
> with these cards and getting them to work with Debian?  Is it better to use
> the CD set insteal of the 3-floppy approach (rescue,root.bin,module load,
> reboot)?  Intel purchased this company, and the manual notes it works fine
> with Debian, using the gdth.0 module.  I am just curious about this,
> because RAID is complex to begin with.

Forgive my ignorance, but shouldn't hardware RAID be completely
transparent to the running OS?  Or is the module designed to let you
administer the RAID setup?

-rob



msg18328/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: How do I start a X session on another machine

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 11:38:51AM -0800, Charles Baker wrote:
> --- Andrew Lindley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have 2 machines running Woody and not enough desk
> > space for both 
> > screens and keyboards. I'd  like to be able to run X
> > sessions on both 
> > 

I think x2x would be handy here.

-rob



msg18327/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Help please, apt-get update failing

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 02:17:23PM -0500, stan wrote:
> I'm getting the following error sequence:
> 
> Get:1 ftp://ftp.tux.org woody/non-free Release
> Ign ftp://ftp.tux.org woody/non-free Release
> Reading Package Lists... Error!
> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
> E: Error occured while processing eboard-extras-pack1 (NewFileVer1)
> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
> 
> What should I do to correct this?

Search the list archives on lists.debian.org.  This has come up at least
half a dozen times in the last month.

-rob



msg18326/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Duplication GNOME 1.4 user configuration

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 12:03:39PM +0100, STOJICEVIC Edi EXPSIA wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to duplicate the configuration of a specified user to all the users
> of the system ...
> 
> Did someone do that already ? 
> 
> I tried to copy the .gnome to /etc/gnome but it's not working, it freezes on
> the
> splashscreen :(
> 
> Does someone have an idea? 

(recursively) Copy the .gnome to /etc/skel, and all new users should
inherit it.  Or, better still, just copy it into the users home dir for
the people who need it.

-rob



msg18325/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: NVidia Riva TNT PCI with XFree86

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 04:52:01PM +0100, Wim De Smet wrote:
> A good way to debug your XF86Config-4 is typing:
> X -configure
> Then see if it starts up. If it does, just look at the file created in the directory 
>you were in while running this command,
> it should have a name like XF86Config.new or something, and find the differences 
>with your config file (especially in the
> "device" section).

Another way is to install discover, mdetect and read-edid, then
'dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86'.  AIUI, an option to autodetect
everything should come up.

-rob



msg18324/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Exim permissions

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 10:28:24PM +, Pigeon wrote:
> Is there a time delay involved? 

No specific delay, should be on the order of seconds.

-rob



msg18323/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Easist way to get rtl8150 module

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 12:55:46AM -0700, J. Scott Edwards wrote:
> What is the easiest way to get rtl8150 module on this system?  

Is this module in a mainline kernel yet?  If so, then 'apt-get install
kernel-image-2.4.18-', where arch is 386, 586tsc, k7 or whatever.
Then use modconf to select the module and you should be all set.

> Is is a binary already hiding somewhere that I haven't found?  

Dunno.  If you've setup 'locate', then 'locate rtl8150' should find it
for you.  Again, you use modconf to select it.

> Do I have to build the whole kernel?  If so is the .config file that
> was used to build the 2-4-18-bf24 kernel on the Woody install disk
> available somewhere so I don't have to start the configuration from
> scratch?

The config file should be stored as /boot/config-2.4.18bf or similar,
but there's no point using it to build a new kernel, since the new one
would contain the exact limited set of drives you currently have
available :-)

-rob



msg18322/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Promise Raid onboard howto install

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 06:30:30PM -0600, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
> Anyone know the steps to installing drivers
> so I can use the Promise Raid 20265/20276 Controller
> on my motherboard.  I am using kernel 2.4.18 with
> devfs.

Don't use it as a RAID controller, for a start.  Either use LVM (Linux
software RAID) or get an actual RAID controller.  These things use
rather nasty, non-Free, binary-only drivers to effectively emulate
hardware RAID in software.

-rob



msg18321/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: newbie: cpio not working

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:34:03AM -0800, alan brown wrote:
> Am I right in assuming that the files are not corrupted because I could
> unzip them?  

I'd say so.  IIRC, gzip includes checksums in the compressed file.

> Shouldn't cpio be telling me things that it's doing as it
> does them (as I set the 'verbose' flag)?

I'd have thought so.  Use strace to see where it's screweing up:
strace cpio -idmv  

-rob



msg18320/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing--Wha???

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 08:58:27PM -0600, ZephyrQ wrote:
>   Thank you, the moving the .REAL command fixed it.  I was able to
> configure my printer

Do take up Joey's kind offer of help though, since it sounds like your
installation screwed up pretty severly...

>   Now I have to start tracking down little problems...like my audio 

Audio is easy.  First, add any users who you want to have sound
capabilities to the 'audio' group, using 'adduser username audio' (as
root).  Then use modconf to select the appropriate driver for your
soundcard, and you're done.

> upgrading the kernal 

'apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-', where arch is one of k7,
386, 686, etc...You'll have to reboot, of course, for this to take
effect.

> so I can use the latest nvidia drivers...

'apt-get install kernel-headers- nvidia-glx-src nvidia-kernel-src'
(as above), then read the docs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-src/ and
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-src/ and you should be all set.

-rob



msg18319/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: dates on share

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 10:46:08AM -0800, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
> I just noticed that whatever I save from my Linux computer over to my 
> Linux server, the date for the file is all wrong!
> 
> The date will be different depending on how I copy it over there.
> For example:
> 1) If I copy through smb mount, then the date is always Dec. 31, 1969. 
> This is the date shown in Konquerer and when in a bash screen.
> 2) If I copy through scp, then the date in Konquerer is also Dec. 31, 
> 1969, but in the bash screen it shows today's date and time.

Weird.  Are you synchronising these two machines using NTP?  It's a very
good idea, since otherwise things like make will get very confused.

-rob



msg18318/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: woody and TTF

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 01:33:30PM -0500, Bruce Park wrote:
> Hello debian users,
> 
> Is true type fonts already installed in woody? 

Did you install any?  x-window-system-core doesn't, IIRC.

> I was looking at some screen shots and I see no differences from my
> fonts and theirs.

Sorry?

-rob



msg18317/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: from intel onboard Lan and audo to install 2.4.50

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
[Please, please, please, please trim your quotes, and use some
capitalisation, your mails hurt to read]

On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 06:56:12PM -0700, eric lin wrote:
> some say newest kernel 2.5.50 can solve all above hardware(intel board 
> on board LAN and audio ) problem, so I download full tar.gz, choose what 
> my hardware fit
> make install

Use make-kpkg in the kernel-package package.

> error happen, I justify one of it, first one, in 
> linux-2.4.50/include/asm-i386/io_apic.h
> containing sis_apic_bug  not include its .h file

As Colin already said, if you can't handle this, you shouldn't be using
2.5 kernels.  Some of them don't build, and many (most) have serious
bugs that could cause data loss.  If you want to go ahead with this,
you'll have to get help from lkml, but be prepared to be thoroughly
roasted.

> also I have difficult(unsuccess) patch 2.5.50
> I did
> gzip -cd patch-2.5.50-ac1.gz  | patch -p0
  ^
s/0/1/  

-rob



msg18315/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Proftp behind firewall problem solved

2002-12-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 05:19:42AM -0800, Michael Olds wrote:
> 2. I am probably using the wrong terminology. I use Cute FTP. The settings
> for this connection are:
> SFTP using SSH2 (Secure Shell) port 22
> Use Global Settings
> and I have SSH2 set up on the Linux box and it works (meaning I connect and
> I can up and download files).

Ah, you're using sftp.  That's ok then.  AFAIK, it runs everything over
TCP port 22, so you're all good.  FTP is a rather messy protocol that
requires both sides to open up ports to each other, so it interacts
extremely poorly with NAT (and firewalls in general).

> My (thin-film level) understanding was that SSH2 actually pretended to be
> whatever open ports were necessary for the communication, but all traffic
> went through 22. At this time the firewall is actually closed on 20 and 21
> and everything else except 22, 80, 110, 25.

Yep, effectively.

Sorry about jumping in mid-thread like that, looks like I missed some
important details.  Glad it works now.

-rob

p.s. It's standard practice to not CC anyone on the list, unless their
Mail-Followup-To header says to or they explictely ask.



msg18314/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Debian hotswap and 5 9's

2002-12-10 Thread nate
Hanasaki JiJi said:
> Any input on building systems that support hotswap and 5 9's uptime?
>
> What hardware? drivers? where to get them? costs?

I don't believe someone can build an x86 box that can give 5 9s uptime.
Thats what, something like 5 minutes of downtime per year? I believe
even less that a single instance of linux(e.g. 1 system) could provide
5 9s on any hardware..You need redundant motherboards, power supplies,
cpus, ram, disks, network, and of course it all needs to be hot swappable.
Sun's starcat 15k systems are pretty fancy, they can operate in a mode
which can make pairs of cpus mirror each other. So when a CPU fails the
other takes over w/o interruption, the OS doesn't even realize a CPU
has failed. Same for RAM. It's like RAID but for hardware :) quite
fancy, I think it had something like 15 power supplies too.

that said.. hotswap your best off I think going with SCA 80pin SCSI with
hotswap backplanes. really depends how much you want to spend, and what
kind of system you need(e.g. lots of ram? lots of processors? how many
hds? what size hds?). provide more info on what your looking for. I would
say the fastest way to get 5 9s of uptime is some sort of IBM S/390 system
running a couple hundred copies of linux in a load balanced or clustered
configuration. I think that is the highest end system that any vendor
officially supports. I don't think Sun offers linux on their 15k servers,
and I don't think HP offers linux on their Superdome or high end alpha
servers. Running linux on S390 is pretty painless too, I've had brief
exposure on it.

couple years ago when I was investigating S/390 systems the lowest end
ran about $60k I think. That was system only, excluding any support or
any of the goodies I think. Debian runs on S/390, though the system I
had access to had SuSE on it.

nate




-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: acroread and anti-aliased text

2002-12-10 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 11:25:51PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
> Eric G. Miller wrote:

> >I've had good luck with dvipdfm.  Understands hyperref, no messy
> >conversions of eps files (use graphicx), no pdflatex headaches...
> >
> Looking at the man page on this is encouraging.  It does, however, throw
> a spotlight onto my vast ignorance.  Can you suggest a default set of
> arguments for the '-f' option?  (the equivalent of Computer Modern?)  If
> I read the man right, this option should do the job of putting some
> type1 fonts into the pdf file.

It's been a little while since I've done any "texing", but I never
messed with the fontmap argument.  Just like magic it uses the
Type1 CMR fonts (or Times, Helvetica, Palatino, etc..)  Maybe,
see /etc/texmf/dvipdfm/config ...?

-- 
"...the plural of anecdote is [not?] data."  - attrib. to George Stigler


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: need help on webserver or apache

2002-12-10 Thread eric lin
pasha wrote:

You should be modifying /etc/apache/httpd.conf (unless you have built the
source by hand - then: find /etc -iname "httpd.conf")

According to the documentation for apache 1.3 - you should be loading
mod_dir module somewhere in your httpd.conf (usually it is already included,
but could be commented out - in which case you should uncomment the line;
otherwise, this is the line from my httpd.conf:

LoadModule dir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so

then, somewhere in your httpd.conf you should also include the following
lines:


DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi


This 'should do the trick'.

As far as your cgi's are concerned, debianized system would often keep its
cgi scripts in /usr/lib/cgi-bin - but you should make sure that your
httpd.conf has appropriate entries for cgi's:

LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/


AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI
Order allow,deny
Allow from all


same thing , after i adding these line reboot, to my site fill out some 
info in my form, hit submit
the browser show

Method Not Allowed
The requested method POST is not allowed for the URL /index.html.

please help again, or any linuxer's advice

[these lines were taken from the default httpd.conf supplied with debian's
apache package]

Hope this helps... if you are having problems with cgi's in apache, you
should read over the following:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_cgi.html

:P

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 04:51:50AM -0700, eric lin wrote:


but what exact command i should use or what file I should modify/  I 
search whole my disk only

www:/# find . | grep mod_dir
/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.en
/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.html
/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.ja.jis
/usr/lib/apache/1.3/110mod_dir.info
/usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so
www:/# cd /var/www
www:/var/www# DirectoryIndex index.html /cgi-bin/index.pl
bash: DirectoryIndex: command not found
www:/var/www#

/usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so  related

also I have a source code line is

http://www.linuxspice.com/cgi-bin/entrance.cgi"; >

in my websource, should I create a directory cgi-bin and create a file 
name entrance.cgi in that dir in /var/www?


highly apprecaite your help on this issue

pasha wrote:

Have you tried specifying a 'DirectoryIndex' directive?

For info, go to:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex

:P

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:12:32AM -0700, eric lin wrote:



Dear Linuxer:

I also have a webserver and website question,  I create a directory 
checkout in my  /var/www  which contain index.html itself
but if I type in any browser
http;//www.myregistereddomain.com/checkout

it did not show the content in my /var/www/checkout/index.html

please help
--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale





--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale







--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: need help on webserver or apache

2002-12-10 Thread eric lin
pasha wrote:

You should be modifying /etc/apache/httpd.conf (unless you have built the
source by hand - then: find /etc -iname "httpd.conf")

According to the documentation for apache 1.3 - you should be loading
mod_dir module somewhere in your httpd.conf (usually it is already included,
but could be commented out - in which case you should uncomment the line;
otherwise, this is the line from my httpd.conf:

LoadModule dir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so

then, somewhere in your httpd.conf you should also include the following
lines:


DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi


This 'should do the trick'.

although thanks your advice, but after I modify(adding that 3 lines) my 
/etc/apache/httpd.conf
then reboot
open mozilla 1.2.1-3 newest from debian upgrade of unstable, type in 
http://www.linuxspice.com/checkout
it still a piece of white
but if you click my wite's bottom's hyperlink checkout,  it do can show 
the content I edit in my /var/www/checkout/index.html
please help again or any linuxer's advice
sincere Eric



As far as your cgi's are concerned, debianized system would often keep its
cgi scripts in /usr/lib/cgi-bin - but you should make sure that your
httpd.conf has appropriate entries for cgi's:

LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/


AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI
Order allow,deny
Allow from all


[these lines were taken from the default httpd.conf supplied with debian's
apache package]

Hope this helps... if you are having problems with cgi's in apache, you
should read over the following:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_cgi.html

:P

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 04:51:50AM -0700, eric lin wrote:


but what exact command i should use or what file I should modify/  I 
search whole my disk only

www:/# find . | grep mod_dir
/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.en
/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.html
/usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.ja.jis
/usr/lib/apache/1.3/110mod_dir.info
/usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so
www:/# cd /var/www
www:/var/www# DirectoryIndex index.html /cgi-bin/index.pl
bash: DirectoryIndex: command not found
www:/var/www#

/usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so  related

also I have a source code line is

http://www.linuxspice.com/cgi-bin/entrance.cgi"; >

in my websource, should I create a directory cgi-bin and create a file 
name entrance.cgi in that dir in /var/www?


highly apprecaite your help on this issue

pasha wrote:

Have you tried specifying a 'DirectoryIndex' directive?

For info, go to:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex

:P

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:12:32AM -0700, eric lin wrote:



Dear Linuxer:

I also have a webserver and website question,  I create a directory 
checkout in my  /var/www  which contain index.html itself
but if I type in any browser
http;//www.myregistereddomain.com/checkout

it did not show the content in my /var/www/checkout/index.html

please help
--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale





--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale







--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: FYI: Linksys router vulnerability

2002-12-10 Thread Craig Dickson
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:

> While this isn't about debian, there are probably a good number of
> debian users who have Linksys router devices on their home network.
> Well, that router may be insecure :
> http://www.corest.com/common/showdoc.php?idx=263&idxseccion=10

Old news, and these bugs are only remotely exploitable if you have
Remote Administration enabled. RA is turned off by default, and most
people have no reason to have ever turned it on.

Craig


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Debian hotswap and 5 9's

2002-12-10 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
Any input on building systems that support hotswap and 5 9's uptime?

What hardware? drivers? where to get them? costs?

Thanks
--
=
= Management is doing things right; leadership is doing the =
=   right things.- Peter Drucker=
=___=
= http://www.sun.com/service/sunps/jdc/javacenter.pdf   =
=  www.sun.com | www.javasoft.com | http://wwws.sun.com/sunone  =
=


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [OT] Remember when hard disk sizes were in MiB?

2002-12-10 Thread Ron Johnson
Being an old fogey myself (no matter how many "daily snapshots" of the
code, and how many 10s of thousands of test records I kept in data
files, I just couldn't come near filling up a 40MB HDD), I *totally*
understand your point.  However...

Just today, I received 3 512MB SDRAMS for the grand sum of US$94.
That's 24,576x more RAM that was in my KayPro2, and 2,458x as much
RAM as in my first PC/AT.
Likewise, the 120GB drives that go for US$125 is 154,194x as much
capacity as the 2 380KB (yes, 380KB, not 360KB) in said KayPro2.

In 1992, I bought a 250MB HDD, which is 1/480th the size of the 
120GB HDD.  (It's 1/1280th the size of the new 320GB Maxtors...)

So. So what if programs are biggers now than they were back then?
They do a *heck* of a lot more

No!  I am NOT defending/condoning poor programmers and poor programming!
You being an ex-VAX programmer will understand that VMS 7.3 has a lot
more capabilities/functionality than VMS 1.0, and thus STARLET.OLB is
bigger now than it was 25 years ago.  And more genericly, compiler
writers now optimize more for speed rather than code size.  IMHO, it's
a valid trade-off.

Of couse, now that programmers don't have the pressing need to write
really tight code, they've forgotten how.  Many under 35 years of
age (unless they were C64 assembler geeks) have never learned how.
And object orientation hasn't helped one bit...


On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 22:18, Mark L. Kahnt wrote:
> I was digging through some old papers and found this from nearly a
> decade ago:
> 
> (Dec. 21)
>  I'm getting tired of lazy, slovenly, good-for-nothing programmers
> wasting my hard-earned hard disk space with their frivolous code.
>  My first PC hard disk had a 10MB capacity. These days, I can think of
> individual applications that consume more space.
>  It has to stop. Stop the insanity! It's getting to the point where I'm
> being forced to swap hard disks as often as I change my socks -- about
> once a year. Programmers and their corporate sponsors have to be taught
> to become thrifty with *our* hard disk space by writing compact
> programs.
>  Here's my plan. For every megabyte of hard disk space a software
> product consumes, the publisher must rebate the customer $10. So if a
> program takes up 1MB we get $10 back. For 2MB we get $20 back and so on
> and so on. Buy Windows and you could get enough back for the down
> payment on a small ranch home in Levittown.
>  Let me tell you friends, with such a plan in force we'll see smaller
> and more efficient programs hit the market in a hurry. It'll be like the
> good old days when programs came on single floppy disks or, better yet,
> audio cassettes.
>  What I'm a little hazy on at the moment is how to enforce this policy.
> Maybe I'll send a few of my Brooklyn buddies to the executive suites of
> some major software publishers with a subtle message, like a fish
> wrapped in a newspaper, or a horse's head or a photograph of Pat
> Robertson.
>  And how will you spend your rebate? Oh, have fun! Paint the town red,
> courtesy of...
>  --John Edwards
> 
> ==
> Mark again --
> 
> The first hard drive I worked with on a desktop was 5 MiB, connected to
> a VAX 11/750 with a 100 MiB hard drive in the system room, back when
> they were the size of dishwashers. Then I lucked out and got a machine
> with 20 MiB on the desktop (powered by a PDP/11 processor.) 16 people
> worked on that VAX, developing compilers (4) and interpreters (5) for a
> number of different platforms (5), with multiple versions of the source
> code on the system in the days before RCS and CVS. I worked at squeezing
> the Pascal compiler onto one 180 KiB floppy (that's how big they were
> back then, before the second side of the disk also became available.
> 
> I also remember that to do pretty well anything, you needed to program
> it - User Friendly meant that error messages were included, rather than
> just going off wildly and trashing the entire system ;) There is
> justification for larger code than we used to use because programs are
> doing vastly more than I did in the early 1980s when writing
> interpreters and compilers at Watcom. Graphics were only just being
> introduced to computers, and code was 8 or 16 bit on most platforms
> (except for the 32-bit VAX and the 36-bit IBM) and back then, we could
> save all sorts of memory by only saving the last two digits of the year
> ;)
> 
> I look on program bloat as something comparable to governments and
> taxes: the more services you want provided, the more taxes or disk space
> (depending on the metaphor) are needed to do it. That said, those $600
> hammers, $1000 pens and $1600 toilet seats probably could be optimised
> out of some code (closest parallel to the toilet seat is the Microsoft
> paper sodding clip.) Because we want our software to do so much, we must
> commit the resources to do that task, on the trust that programmers are
> going to res

Re: need help on webserver or apache

2002-12-10 Thread pasha
You should be modifying /etc/apache/httpd.conf (unless you have built the
source by hand - then: find /etc -iname "httpd.conf")

According to the documentation for apache 1.3 - you should be loading
mod_dir module somewhere in your httpd.conf (usually it is already included,
but could be commented out - in which case you should uncomment the line;
otherwise, this is the line from my httpd.conf:

LoadModule dir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so

then, somewhere in your httpd.conf you should also include the following
lines:


DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi


This 'should do the trick'.

As far as your cgi's are concerned, debianized system would often keep its
cgi scripts in /usr/lib/cgi-bin - but you should make sure that your
httpd.conf has appropriate entries for cgi's:

LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/


AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI
Order allow,deny
Allow from all


[these lines were taken from the default httpd.conf supplied with debian's
apache package]

Hope this helps... if you are having problems with cgi's in apache, you
should read over the following:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_cgi.html

:P

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 04:51:50AM -0700, eric lin wrote:
> but what exact command i should use or what file I should modify/  I 
> search whole my disk only
> 
> www:/# find . | grep mod_dir
> /usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.en
> /usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.html
> /usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.ja.jis
> /usr/lib/apache/1.3/110mod_dir.info
> /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so
> www:/# cd /var/www
> www:/var/www# DirectoryIndex index.html /cgi-bin/index.pl
> bash: DirectoryIndex: command not found
> www:/var/www#
> 
> /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so  related
> 
> also I have a source code line is
> 
>  section="http://www.linuxspice.com/cgi-bin/entrance.cgi"; >
> 
> in my websource, should I create a directory cgi-bin and create a file 
> name entrance.cgi in that dir in /var/www?
> 
> 
> highly apprecaite your help on this issue
> 
> pasha wrote:
> >Have you tried specifying a 'DirectoryIndex' directive?
> >
> >For info, go to:
> >http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex
> >
> >:P
> >
> >On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:12:32AM -0700, eric lin wrote:
> >
> >>Dear Linuxer:
> >>
> >>I also have a webserver and website question,  I create a directory 
> >> checkout in my  /var/www  which contain index.html itself
> >>but if I type in any browser
> >>http;//www.myregistereddomain.com/checkout
> >>
> >>it did not show the content in my /var/www/checkout/index.html
> >>
> >>please help
> >>-- 
> >>Sincere Eric
> >>www.linuxspice.com
> >>linux pc for sale
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sincere Eric
> www.linuxspice.com
> linux pc for sale


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




FYI: Linksys router vulnerability

2002-12-10 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
While this isn't about debian, there are probably a good number of
debian users who have Linksys router devices on their home network.
Well, that router may be insecure :
http://www.corest.com/common/showdoc.php?idx=263&idxseccion=10

-D

-- 
Microsoft encrypts your Windows NT password when stored on a Windows CE
device. But if you look carefully at their encryption algorithm, they
simply XOR the password with "susageP", Pegasus spelled backwards.
Pegasus is the code name of Windows CE. This is so pathetic it's
staggering.
http://www.cegadgets.com/artsusageP.htm
 
http://dman.ddts.net/~dman/



msg18306/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: acroread and anti-aliased text

2002-12-10 Thread Gary Turner
Eric G. Miller wrote:

>On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 08:59:43PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
>> Alan Shutko wrote:
>> 
>> >Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> >True, but the problem with (naively created) TeX documents is that
>> >dvips traditionally puts bitmapped fonts into its ps files (as PS Type
>> >3 fonts).
>> 
>> Certainly a naif here.  What is the more sophisticated approach?
>
>I've had good luck with dvipdfm.  Understands hyperref, no messy
>conversions of eps files (use graphicx), no pdflatex headaches...
>
Looking at the man page on this is encouraging.  It does, however, throw
a spotlight onto my vast ignorance.  Can you suggest a default set of
arguments for the '-f' option?  (the equivalent of Computer Modern?)  If
I read the man right, this option should do the job of putting some
type1 fonts into the pdf file.

Tnx,
--
gt   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It ain't so much what you don't know that gets you in trouble---
it's what you do know that ain't so.--unk


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: How to stop kde loading ?

2002-12-10 Thread Kent West
Joyce, Matthew wrote:


I have kde3 and have just install blackbox, but how do I get startx to not
run kde but run backbox ?

Thanks	

Matt


 

Create/edit ~/.xinitrc (and/or ~/.xsession); if it's blank, add a line 
that says

   icewm

If it's not blank, find the command that starts KDE ("startkde" maybe?) 
and change it to "icewm".


Kent




--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: port :80 and my ISP

2002-12-10 Thread Jason M. Harvey
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:15:38AM -0500, Shawn Lamson wrote:
| Hey all -
| 
| I am working on getting my box to serve a webpage; it seems ok with apache2 running 
|(btw not the debian packaged version - it seemed "whacked") but I have to use port 
|123.321.89.98:8000 b/c I can't seem to get anything from port 80... I am assuming my 
|ISP blocks port 80, but what can I use to see if anything does in fact come in to 
|port 80 and I am somehow rejecting/denying the packets?  I am not running any sort of 
|firewall that I know of.
| 
| Thank you,
| 
| Shawn Lamson
| 
| BTW - kernel is 2.4.19
| 
| 
| -- 
| To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| 
hello,

i had the same problem with optimum online/cablevision. they blocked
traffic on port 80, so i ran apache on port 81. at the time, i was
running my site as theigloo.dhs.org, which was
http://theigloo.dhs.org:81. so, i registered jharv.com, ran the dns
myself, and pointed www.jharv.com out to my friend on the 'net. he then
has his apache set up to use url forwarding to basicall point
www.jharv.com back to theigloo.dhs.org:81 and all works fine.

good luck,
jason

-- 
--
| http://jharv.com   | http://counter.li.org/|
| 2.4.16-k6  | Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 Sarge|
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | registered linux user #202942 |
--




msg18301/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


How to stop kde loading ?

2002-12-10 Thread Joyce, Matthew

I have kde3 and have just install blackbox, but how do I get startx to not
run kde but run backbox ?

Thanks  

Matt


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: install macromedia coldfusion MX have problem

2002-12-10 Thread eric lin
that seem is a big defect, since what old can use , but new can not. 
Would any body have opinion so that.  New should improve not retrograde

eric

nate wrote:
eric lin said:


Dear Linuxer;

  I tried to install macromedia's coldfusion MX




6/libjava.so: symbol __libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file




probably cannot use it on debian woody. it is linked against glibc 2.0
which is really old. I think debian hamm(1998) was the most recent version
of debian to sport glibc 2.0

nate







--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: /etc/init.d/omniorb

2002-12-10 Thread Elizabeth Barham
Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Just idly wondering: /etc/init.d/omniorb: what is it for? It was put
> in by default when I originally installed the system, and I soon
> disabled it, and haven't noticed anything complaining that it's not
> there.
> 
> It runs omniNames. What is omniNames? man omniNames gives the following:
> 
>omniNames - OMNI Naming Service
>  
>The  OMNI  Naming Service is an omniORB2 implementation of
>the OMG's COS Naming Service Specification.
> 
> which leaves me none the wiser.

CORBA.

OmniORB was originally written by the fine folks at AT&T is now at
sourceforge:



OmniORB is a well-respected ORB (Object Request Broker) and OmniNames
is the ORB's nameserver (similar to DNS except for objects).

Most likely, some application you installed is dependent upon OmniORB
and so it was installed as well. It is of note that GNOME uses ORBit
for its ORB.

Elizabeth




-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: /etc/init.d/omniorb

2002-12-10 Thread nate
Pigeon said:
> Hi,
>
> Just idly wondering: /etc/init.d/omniorb: what is it for? It was put in by
> default when I originally installed the system, and I soon
> disabled it, and haven't noticed anything complaining that it's not there.
>

I've never used it(as far as I know..) but apt-cache says

Description: CORBA ORB (omniORB) - c++ implementation
 omniORB is a freely available Common Object Request Broker
 Architecture (CORBA) 2.3 compliant object request broker (ORB)
 implementation. It is based on the IIOP communications
 protocol and should be interoperable with any other
 CORBA 2.3 compliant ORB.

you can always remove it, apt-get remove omniorb, if something else
needs it, the system will prompt to remove that as well, if its something
you need you can keep it, I've never had it on my systems though as far
as I can remember.

nate




-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: install macromedia coldfusion MX have problem

2002-12-10 Thread nate
eric lin said:
> Dear Linuxer;
>
>I tried to install macromedia's coldfusion MX

> 6/libjava.so: symbol __libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file


probably cannot use it on debian woody. it is linked against glibc 2.0
which is really old. I think debian hamm(1998) was the most recent version
of debian to sport glibc 2.0

nate




-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: gpg implying potential tampering trouble...

2002-12-10 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 08:00:03PM -0800, alan brown wrote:
> gpg: Warning: This key is not certified with a trusted signature.
> 
> gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.

You should probably read up on some of the concepts behind the "web of
trust".  The GNU Privacy Handbook
(http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html) is a fairly good place to
start.

Basically what gpg is telling you is that the signature is valid, but it
has no way of knowing that the signature belonged to the person to whom
you expected it to belong.  Anybody can generate a gpg key with somebody
else's name and address on it.  It's up to you to determine whether or
not it's the right key.  gpg allows you to assign trust values to keys
based on a model that is similar to the "6 degrees of separation" that
sociologists use.

Lots of documentation is available and it will probably do a better job
of descibing the concept than I.

noah

-- 
 ___
| Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/
| PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html 



msg18295/pgp0.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: pfinger

2002-12-10 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 12:31:05PM -0600, Drew Scott Daniels wrote:
> > I'm looking for a program called pfinger which is apparently part of
> > Debian. It is executed by a program that uses the command "./finger" so
> > that means that it's not the pascal finger program. Can anyone point me to
> > this program, help me find it or say authoritatively that it is not in
> > Debian (or non-free)?
>
>   [cjwatson@arborlon ~]$ auto-apt search -f pfinger | sort -u
>   usr/sbin/in.ldapfingerd net/ldap-gateways
>   usr/share/doc/fp-units-net/examples/inet/pfinger.pp devel/fp-units-net
>   usr/share/man/man8/in.ldapfingerd.8.gz  net/ldap-gateways
>   [cjwatson@arborlon ~]$
>
> So unless it's the fp-units-net version, which you say it's not, it
> looks like it isn't in Debian.
>
> (You can also use http://packages.debian.org/ to search for filenames.)
>
Thanks. I'm looking to find out if a security vulnerability does exist in
Debian as was reported on packetstorm. I posted to debian-security and
have had no response yet.

packages.debian.org didn't help me much. You'll note that the program is
"called" pfinger, but the executable is "finger" without the p, this means
that it's not the fp-units-net version.

 Drew Daniels


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




/etc/init.d/omniorb

2002-12-10 Thread Pigeon
Hi,

Just idly wondering: /etc/init.d/omniorb: what is it for? It was put
in by default when I originally installed the system, and I soon
disabled it, and haven't noticed anything complaining that it's not
there.

It runs omniNames. What is omniNames? man omniNames gives the following:

   omniNames - OMNI Naming Service
   
   The  OMNI  Naming Service is an omniORB2 implementation of
   the OMG's COS Naming Service Specification.

which leaves me none the wiser.

Pigeon


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Compiling gsview

2002-12-10 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 07:31:49AM +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to run gsview 4.3. When I try opening a ps file, it says
> that it cannot find libgs.so. A quick search on debian's packages page
> did not yield any package that contained the above mentioned file. 
> 
> Is there any package/metapackage that provides libgs.so so that I can
> use/compile gsview?

It appears the package gs-aladdin just ships as a single executable.
You may have to build from source to get a shared library.  How did
you install gsview (it doesn't appear to be packaged for Debian)?

-- 
"...the plural of anecdote is [not?] data."  - attrib. to George Stigler


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Help with login/environment: bash_profile, bashrc, xdm

2002-12-10 Thread John Schmidt
Hi,

I don't run either gdm or xdm, but do run kdm.  For kdm, there is a file 
in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession.  At the top of this file, it had:

#!/bin/sh

I changed this to
#!/bin/bash --login

and now when I fire up an xterm equilavents inside of kde, all the 
shells are login shells and my ~/.bash_profile is processed with my 
defined enviroment variables.

You may be able to get away with editing /etc/X11/Xsession and doing the 
above change.

There may be problems with making all shells start as login shells.  I 
don't pretend to know what they may be and various pros/cons, but the 
above change works for me and gets my ~/.bash_profile read when I fire 
up kde.

John

On Monday 09 December 2002 10:25 pm, Paul Mackinney wrote:
> Hi. I use the blackbox window manager, but I'm having trouble with my
> default environment.
>
> I was using gdm and all was fine, except that
>- My customizations to the login window kept getting bonked.
>- If you ctrl-alt-f1 to get a non-X terminal, it keeps coming back
>every n seconds without being asked. Especially annoying if your X
>configuration is bad... I'm just not a GNOME fan.
>
> So I switched to xdm
>- and my .bash_profile stopped getting processed. So that after
>opening an xterm, none of my custom environment variables were
>active, just the custom aliases in .bashrc.
>- I tried putting 'source ./.bash_profile' at the top of my
> xsession file, but no luck.
>
> Can someone tell me, or point me to the right docs, to get xdm to run
> .bash_profile so that all term windows inherit the environment?
>
> And a more philosophical question: Anyone care to provide a 50 word
> essay on the proper use of .bash_profile and .bashrc? I have an
> environment that generally works, but it's based on random examples,
> trial, and error rather than consistent application of fundamental
> principles.
>
> TIA, Paul


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




[OT] Remember when hard disk sizes were in MiB?

2002-12-10 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
I was digging through some old papers and found this from nearly a
decade ago:

(Dec. 21)
 I'm getting tired of lazy, slovenly, good-for-nothing programmers
wasting my hard-earned hard disk space with their frivolous code.
 My first PC hard disk had a 10MB capacity. These days, I can think of
individual applications that consume more space.
 It has to stop. Stop the insanity! It's getting to the point where I'm
being forced to swap hard disks as often as I change my socks -- about
once a year. Programmers and their corporate sponsors have to be taught
to become thrifty with *our* hard disk space by writing compact
programs.
 Here's my plan. For every megabyte of hard disk space a software
product consumes, the publisher must rebate the customer $10. So if a
program takes up 1MB we get $10 back. For 2MB we get $20 back and so on
and so on. Buy Windows and you could get enough back for the down
payment on a small ranch home in Levittown.
 Let me tell you friends, with such a plan in force we'll see smaller
and more efficient programs hit the market in a hurry. It'll be like the
good old days when programs came on single floppy disks or, better yet,
audio cassettes.
 What I'm a little hazy on at the moment is how to enforce this policy.
Maybe I'll send a few of my Brooklyn buddies to the executive suites of
some major software publishers with a subtle message, like a fish
wrapped in a newspaper, or a horse's head or a photograph of Pat
Robertson.
 And how will you spend your rebate? Oh, have fun! Paint the town red,
courtesy of...
 --John Edwards

==
Mark again --

The first hard drive I worked with on a desktop was 5 MiB, connected to
a VAX 11/750 with a 100 MiB hard drive in the system room, back when
they were the size of dishwashers. Then I lucked out and got a machine
with 20 MiB on the desktop (powered by a PDP/11 processor.) 16 people
worked on that VAX, developing compilers (4) and interpreters (5) for a
number of different platforms (5), with multiple versions of the source
code on the system in the days before RCS and CVS. I worked at squeezing
the Pascal compiler onto one 180 KiB floppy (that's how big they were
back then, before the second side of the disk also became available.

I also remember that to do pretty well anything, you needed to program
it - User Friendly meant that error messages were included, rather than
just going off wildly and trashing the entire system ;) There is
justification for larger code than we used to use because programs are
doing vastly more than I did in the early 1980s when writing
interpreters and compilers at Watcom. Graphics were only just being
introduced to computers, and code was 8 or 16 bit on most platforms
(except for the 32-bit VAX and the 36-bit IBM) and back then, we could
save all sorts of memory by only saving the last two digits of the year
;)

I look on program bloat as something comparable to governments and
taxes: the more services you want provided, the more taxes or disk space
(depending on the metaphor) are needed to do it. That said, those $600
hammers, $1000 pens and $1600 toilet seats probably could be optimised
out of some code (closest parallel to the toilet seat is the Microsoft
paper sodding clip.) Because we want our software to do so much, we must
commit the resources to do that task, on the trust that programmers are
going to respect the finite resources (the same way we want our
governments to respect our finite wallets.)
-- 
Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP
ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting
Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part


Re: mozilla mail reader

2002-12-10 Thread Bruce Park
From: Travis Crump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian User List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mozilla mail reader
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:42:49 -0500

Bruce Park wrote:

From: Travis Crump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It shows just the time of all mails sent today because it assumes that 
you know what day it is.

OK... but wouldn't it make more sense to list the date? I can understand 
TODAY's things not  being dated. With that being said, will the date field 
change tomorrow? If it didn't, you'd have no way of when the mail was 
received.


Yes the date field will change tomorrow to some format determined by your 
locale which includes the date.  Whenever I 'find' a 'bug' like this, I 
think to myself, "Would the programmers really have made this big of an 
error and not noticed it?"  The answer is usually no and I figure out my 
misunderstanding or what I am doing wrong/unusual. Especially in this 
instance where Netscape uses the Mozilla code base for its mail client and 
has been in this business for a while.
You are absolutely right Travis. Who am I to think that developers at 
Mozilla would make such an error. Well, all I have to say is that it's been 
a while since I configured anything like this and basically, I panicked. 
I'll be more cautious next time. In the meantime, thanks for the help. I 
really appreciate it.

bp


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a 
subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*  
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: secure network file access

2002-12-10 Thread Mike Egglestone
Hi Matt,
You may want to look at putting some kind of
vpn service on your samba box. Windows has a vpn client to
connect up. pptp is the basic but I hear the ipsec is better security.
You'll have to compile new kernels and software.
if you hunt at google, there a some pages out there that will 
help you setup your debian box for being a vpn server.

Mike


Quoting matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi all,
> I need some advice.
> I'd like to have the home directorys on my woody box available to
> machines on the local (NATed) network, and via the internet.
> samba is good for local access...but (i don't think) it can be pushed
> through a NAT-based router.  
> 
> What is the best package to do such a thing as securely as possible.  the
> client software must be able to run on windows machines as well.
> 
> thanks,
> -matt 
> 
> P.S.  Please send replys directly to me, I just unsubscribed from the
> list (mail quota too low).
> 
> -- 
> http://fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free
> 
> 
> -- 
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 




-
This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: acroread and anti-aliased text

2002-12-10 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 08:59:43PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
> Alan Shutko wrote:
> 
> >Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> Not sure that's the only cause.  Documents created by LaTeX and
> >> converted to PDF have the same problem. 
> >
> >True, but the problem with (naively created) TeX documents is that
> >dvips traditionally puts bitmapped fonts into its ps files (as PS Type
> >3 fonts).
> 
> Certainly a naif here.  What is the more sophisticated approach?

I've had good luck with dvipdfm.  Understands hyperref, no messy
conversions of eps files (use graphicx), no pdflatex headaches...

-- 
"...the plural of anecdote is [not?] data."  - attrib. to George Stigler


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Imp3/Horde2 just dumps me back to the login screen

2002-12-10 Thread Mike Egglestone
Does the http://yourserver.com/horde2/test.php 
check out ok? do the imp tests check out ok?

Mike

Quoting Joe Emenaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Has anyone had this problem before?
> 
> Incidentally, the only reason I switched to horde2/imp3 from horde/imp2 is
> because the older horde/imp2 started doing this same kind of thing earlier.
> The only difference was that horde/imp2 kept reporting that the
> username/password was incorrect which, although untrue, was more error
> message than horde2/imp3 is giving me.
> 
> - Joe




-
This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




gpg implying potential tampering trouble...

2002-12-10 Thread alan brown








This is probably nothing but while I was downloading the
samba source, I used gpg to confirm it was still in pristine condition.

 

 $ gpg --import samba-pubkey.asc $ gpg --verify samba-release.tar.[bz2|gz].asc

 

I got the following response as hoped…

 

 gpg: Signature made Tue 26 Nov 2002 07:12:04 PM CST using DSA key ID 2F87AF6F gpg: Good signature from "Samba Distribution Verification Key <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"

 

but I also got the following…

 

Could not find a valid trust path to the key. 
Let’s see whether we can assign some missing owner trust values.

No path leading to one of our keys found

gpg: Warning: This key is not certified with a trusted
signature.

gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to
the owner.

 

I followed what seemed to be some very simple instructions. 
Downloaded the tar file and the asc file associated with that file and the pubkey.asc
file and then ran the commands above.

 

 








install macromedia coldfusion MX have problem

2002-12-10 Thread eric lin
Dear Linuxer;

  I tried to install macromedia's coldfusion MX

but I meet error

Error occurred during initialization of VM
Unable to load native library: 
/tmp/install.dir.24128/Linux/resource/jre/lib/i38
6/libjava.so: symbol __libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file 
libc.so.
6 with link time reference

Please help
--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: need help on webserver or apache

2002-12-10 Thread eric lin
but what exact command i should use or what file I should modify/  I 
search whole my disk only

www:/# find . | grep mod_dir
./usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.en
./usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.html
./usr/share/doc/apache/manual/mod/mod_dir.html.ja.jis
./usr/lib/apache/1.3/110mod_dir.info
./usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so
www:/# cd /var/www
www:/var/www# DirectoryIndex index.html /cgi-bin/index.pl
bash: DirectoryIndex: command not found
www:/var/www#

/usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_dir.so  related

also I have a source code line is

http://www.linuxspice.com/cgi-bin/entrance.cgi"; >

in my websource, should I create a directory cgi-bin and create a file 
name entrance.cgi in that dir in /var/www?


highly apprecaite your help on this issue

pasha wrote:
Have you tried specifying a 'DirectoryIndex' directive?

For info, go to:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex

:P

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:12:32AM -0700, eric lin wrote:


Dear Linuxer:

I also have a webserver and website question,  I create a directory 
 checkout in my  /var/www  which contain index.html itself
but if I type in any browser
http;//www.myregistereddomain.com/checkout

it did not show the content in my /var/www/checkout/index.html

please help
--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale






--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: mozilla mail reader

2002-12-10 Thread Travis Crump
Bruce Park wrote:

From: Travis Crump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It shows just the time of all mails sent today because it assumes that 
you know what day it is.

OK... but wouldn't it make more sense to list the date? I can understand 
TODAY's things not  being dated. With that being said, will the date 
field change tomorrow? If it didn't, you'd have no way of when the mail 
was received.


Yes the date field will change tomorrow to some format determined by 
your locale which includes the date.  Whenever I 'find' a 'bug' like 
this, I think to myself, "Would the programmers really have made this 
big of an error and not noticed it?"  The answer is usually no and I 
figure out my misunderstanding or what I am doing wrong/unusual. 
Especially in this instance where Netscape uses the Mozilla code base 
for its mail client and has been in this business for a while.


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: web site database backend?

2002-12-10 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Tim Verry wrote:

> Knowing very little about Linux database options...
>
> Is there a way to have a database that accepts data from html forms, but
> which requires no administration whatsoever on the web server side?
> IOW a database that the user could put in their own directory structure
> that they could use, without the equivalent of Window's Control Panel
> ODBC connections being setup in advance?
>

I'm a big fan of SQLite.  almost full SQL features (including
transactions,)  lightweight, and incredibly fast.

apt-get install libdbd-sqlite-perl

to get the database and DBD driver for perl in one tiny package.  There
are also packages for C, TCL and python APIs.

-- 
Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It's a girl! See the pictures - http://www.braincells.com/shailaja/


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: lyx-1.2

2002-12-10 Thread Craig Dickson
Peter S Galbraith wrote:

> In other news XForms was accepted into main yesterday, so lyx will be
> able to move to main too.

That's nice, but I'm really waiting for lyx 1.3 with the Qt front-end.
XForms is vile.

Craig


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: acroread and anti-aliased text [solved]

2002-12-10 Thread Brian Stults
Tom Badran wrote:

On Tuesday 10 Dec 2002 4:36 pm, Brian Stults wrote:


Hello,

When I generate pdf's and view them in acroread (5.0.5) the fonts are
very fuzzy.  For example...  I create a file in OpenOffice using the
Arial font which is anti-aliased.  I then print it to a postscript file.
 If I view it through gv, it looks just as fuzzy at first, but then I
choose to antialias it, and it looks great.  Then I convert it to a pdf
using ps2pdf.  When I view it in gv, it still looks great.  When I view
it in acroread, it looks very fuzzy.  Even when I view it in acroread
under MS Windows, it looks very bad.



This problem is to do with openoffice's printer font replacement.

To fix it, run oopadmin, click on the properties buttin for your printer, and 
make sure you have "enable font replacement" turned on, and there should be 
about 8 replacements including "Arial -> Helvetica" and "Times New Roman -> 
Times". If you turn this off, your pdfs will be very poor quality under 
anything but ghostscript viewers (gv, ggv, kghostview etc).

Hope this helps

Tom


Enabling font replacement did the trick.  Thanks so much!  I've been 
living with ugly pdf's for a while now - booting my laptop into Windows 
to generate them when it mattered.  This is like a breath of fresh air. 
 I've made about 10 meaningless pdf's in the past 15 minutes just to 
see how pretty they are.

Thanks again!


--
Brian J. Stults  Department of Sociology
phone: (352) 392-0265 x286   University of Florida
fax:   (352) 392-6568Gainesville, Florida 32611-7330
pgp:   http://clas.ufl.edu/~bstults/bstults.gpg


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: config X under woody -- trubble

2002-12-10 Thread will trillich
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:36:01PM +1100, Russell wrote:
> will trillich wrote:
> > okay, i've gone thru
> > 
> > XFree86 -configure
> > xf86cfg
> > xf86config
> > 
> > and "startx" always borks out with errors. but after "xf86config" with a
> > slew of textual q&a, i try
> > 
> > XFree86 -xf86config /etc/X11/XF86Config
> > 
> > i actually DO get a boilerplate background with the centered X
> > (altho it's apparently oversized -- as if displaying 800x600 on
> > a 640x480 close-up).
> > 
> > i'm hoping someday soon i manage to get a window to display,
> > even if it's an empty box.
> 
> Try: XFree86 -configure

isn't that the first thing i listed above? :)

the weird part is, startx bombs back to console, while manually
intervening with "/etc/X11/XF86Config" actually produces an X
desktop (albeit deserted, it has a working mouse pointer). why
would startx not do the same?

-- 
I use Debian/GNU Linux version 2.2;
Linux server 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i586 unknown
 
DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #19 from Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:
How do you determine WHICH NETWORK SERVICES ARE OPEN (active)?
Try "netstat -a | grep LISTEN". To see numeric values (instead
of the common names for services using a particular port) then
try "netstat -na" instead. For more info, look at "man netstat".
   Also try "lsof -i" as root. "man lsof" for details.
=Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: acroread and anti-aliased text

2002-12-10 Thread Gary Turner
Alan Shutko wrote:

>Gary Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Not sure that's the only cause.  Documents created by LaTeX and
>> converted to PDF have the same problem. 
>
>True, but the problem with (naively created) TeX documents is that
>dvips traditionally puts bitmapped fonts into its ps files (as PS Type
>3 fonts).

Certainly a naif here.  What is the more sophisticated approach?

> That causes a double problem, as Acroread can't display
>Type 3 fonts as well as Type 1, and it certainly doesn't like
>bitmaps.

It sure doesn't like something ;)

>(This shouldn't be a problem nowadays, since Type 1
>versions of the Computer Modern fonts have been included with TeX
>distributions for a while.)

How do I get these fonts and/or how do I get TeX to use them instead of
type 3/bitmap?



Tnx,

--
gt   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It ain't so much what you don't know that gets you in trouble---
it's what you do know that ain't so.--unk


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: mozilla mail reader

2002-12-10 Thread Donald R. Spoon
Bruce Park wrote:

Hello debian users,

I am currently using Mozilla 1.0.0 and I noticed a strange effect in the 
mail reader. The mail reader has "fields" such as subject, date, etc. In 
the date field, I get the time when the mail was sent or received 
instead of the date. Is this field configurable? I already e-mailed the 
admin and asked. He told me that it was working well for others and 
himself.
Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

bp

It shows time - only for "todays" messages.  All other, older messages 
will show the date AND time.  Take a look at your "sent" folder to see 
an example of what it looks like.

 Why would you want to change this?  I have the date and time on my KDE 
desktop clock on the task bar...no need to duplicate this info, IMHO.

Cheers,
-Don Spoon-



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: need help on webserver or apache

2002-12-10 Thread pasha
Have you tried specifying a 'DirectoryIndex' directive?

For info, go to:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex

:P

On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 03:12:32AM -0700, eric lin wrote:
> Dear Linuxer:
> 
>  I also have a webserver and website question,  I create a directory 
>   checkout in my  /var/www  which contain index.html itself
> but if I type in any browser
> http;//www.myregistereddomain.com/checkout
> 
> it did not show the content in my /var/www/checkout/index.html
> 
> please help
> -- 
> Sincere Eric
> www.linuxspice.com
> linux pc for sale


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: secure network file access

2002-12-10 Thread matt
winscp is so, so close.  in the "wishlist" on the site it says "* Mount
remote directory as drive."  if they get that functionality, it will be
prefect.  until then, it's kinda fun to play with...

I really like the idea of a single executable that contains the entire
programbefore putty, i hadn't seen that in the intel environment
since DOS!

actually, this is an important "feature" i forgot to mention
earlier...the program must be able to be installed by a user on an NT/XP
machine with poweruser privedges.  each time a user loggs off, the
machine cleans all changes...so it must be installed every time.

thanks
-matt


On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 18:14:36 -0800 (PST), "nate"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> matt said:
> > Hi all,
> > I need some advice.
> > I'd like to have the home directorys on my woody box available to
> > machines on the local (NATed) network, and via the internet.
> > samba is good for local access...but (i don't think) it can be pushed
> > through a NAT-based router.
> >
> > What is the best package to do such a thing as securely as possible.  the
> > client software must be able to run on windows machines as well.
> 
> depends what level of access, at my former employer I used WinSCP
> for win32 clients, and enforced RSA key logins. It has a fancy
> pointNclick
> interface, it's freely downloadable, based on Putty code.
> 
> you could also get cygwin with ssh (sources.redhat.com I think), and
> use the command line scp/ssh, works well too. And/or rsync-over-ssh
> this works too(though rsync on win32 can be flakey).
> 
> another way could be to setup apache-ssl, and export your data over
> apache,
> setup HTTP auth ..though this should be more of a last resort.
> 
> nate
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
http://fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software
  or over the web


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: No network on CD net install

2002-12-10 Thread Andrew Perrin
On 10 Dec 2002, Shyamal Prasad wrote:

> Try booting with "ide1=0x180,0x386" as parameters to the kernel. Some
> of those Sony machines have all kind of nast hacks in them.

That did it - thanks!  The debian install is now happily eating my
cable modem's bandwidth.

ap

--
Andrew J Perrin - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin
Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] * andrew_perrin (at) unc.edu





-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: mozilla mail reader

2002-12-10 Thread Bruce Park
From: "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mozilla mail reader
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:59:51 -0800 (PST)

Bruce Park said:
> Hello debian users,
>
> I am currently using Mozilla 1.0.0 and I noticed a strange effect in the
> mail reader. The mail reader has "fields" such as subject, date, etc. In
> the  date field, I get the time when the mail was sent or received 
instead
> of the  date. Is this field configurable? I already e-mailed the admin 
and
> asked. He  told me that it was working well for others and himself.
> Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

what? you talkin about when you open an email it shows the data inside the
email that was when it was sent ? instead of your 'current' date? I'm
lost, because this sounds perfectly normal. Have you looked at the raw 
email
itself? can you post a screenshot to a web/ftp site so it's more clear?
The keyword here is DATE not DATA. Here is the pic:
http://rplaca.cs.qc.edu/~bpark/mozilla-mail.jpg



nate




--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


_
STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* 
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Apache config

2002-12-10 Thread eric lin
Dear Nate:

  I get that doamin is by paying some company to register, I only give 
them my ip address to get that domain.
no, it only show a piece of white
so should I configure more some where in my apache server,

hihgly appreciate

nate wrote:
eric lin said:



Dear Linuxer:

 I also have a webserver and website question,
I create a directory checkout in my  /var/www  which contain
index.html itself
but if I type in any browser
http;//www.myregistereddomain.com/checkout

it did not show the content in my /var/www/checkout/index.html



what does it show? have you tried http://YOUR_IP_ADDRESS/checkout ?

does your domain properly point to the IP of the server?

nate








--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Imp3/Horde2 just dumps me back to the login screen

2002-12-10 Thread Joyce, Matthew




-Original Message-
From: Joe Emenaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 12:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Imp3/Horde2 just dumps me back to the login screen


Okay... I *had* horde2/imp3 working about a few weeks ago.

Now, it doesn't work. This probably happened after one of my apt-get
update/upgrade runs. Normally, when stuff breaks after an upgrade, I can fix
it myself, but this has me stumped.

When I go to http://myservername/horde2, I get the login screen. I type in
my username and password and hit enter and the browser waits for a few
seconds and then, pow, I get the login screen again.

Now, the frustrating part here is that I'm getting no error messages... none
on the page the browser presents, none in the Apache logs, none in syslog,
daemon.log... nothing. It's almost as if imp3 thinks that it was *supposed*
to work this way. The only evidence that I have that imp3/horde2 is doing
*anything* at all is in the mail.info log, which shows an imap connection
being established from "localhost" with the proper username/password.

The IMAP server, itself, seems to be working fine. I can get to all of my
mail via Outlook Express or Mozilla Mail.

Mysql seems to be working properly, too. I can connect to the database and
list tables, etc.

A complete purge/reinstall of php4, php4-imap, php4-ldap, php4-pear, horde2,
imp3, and turba doesn't solve the problem.

Has anyone had this problem before?

Incidentally, the only reason I switched to horde2/imp3 from horde/imp2 is
because the older horde/imp2 started doing this same kind of thing earlier.
The only difference was that horde/imp2 kept reporting that the
username/password was incorrect which, although untrue, was more error
message than horde2/imp3 is giving me.

- Joe


I have an almost working system, and had similar results along the way.

One thing I would check is the host name of the server in /etc/hosts, the
Server name in /etc/apache/httpd.conf and check the client can resove ok.

can you run the horde/test.php and horde/imp/test.php ?

I started making notes about the install procedure, but I lost my way, if
you have any notes perhaps we can compare.

Right now, all I want to change is the url from webmail.server.com/horde.imp
to webmail.server.com and I would also like to try to get the imap component
to use imap/ssl to login to my exchange server.


Matt


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: mozilla mail reader

2002-12-10 Thread Travis Crump
Bruce Park wrote:

Hello debian users,

I am currently using Mozilla 1.0.0 and I noticed a strange effect in the 
mail reader. The mail reader has "fields" such as subject, date, etc. In 
the date field, I get the time when the mail was sent or received 
instead of the date. Is this field configurable? I already e-mailed the 
admin and asked. He told me that it was working well for others and 
himself.
Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

bp



It shows just the time of all mails sent today because it assumes that 
you know what day it is.



--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



need help on webserver or apache

2002-12-10 Thread eric lin
Dear Linuxer:

 I also have a webserver and website question,  I create a directory 
  checkout in my  /var/www  which contain index.html itself
but if I type in any browser
http;//www.myregistereddomain.com/checkout

it did not show the content in my /var/www/checkout/index.html

please help
--
Sincere Eric
www.linuxspice.com
linux pc for sale


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: secure network file access

2002-12-10 Thread nate
matt said:
> Hi all,
> I need some advice.
> I'd like to have the home directorys on my woody box available to
> machines on the local (NATed) network, and via the internet.
> samba is good for local access...but (i don't think) it can be pushed
> through a NAT-based router.
>
> What is the best package to do such a thing as securely as possible.  the
> client software must be able to run on windows machines as well.

depends what level of access, at my former employer I used WinSCP
for win32 clients, and enforced RSA key logins. It has a fancy pointNclick
interface, it's freely downloadable, based on Putty code.

you could also get cygwin with ssh (sources.redhat.com I think), and
use the command line scp/ssh, works well too. And/or rsync-over-ssh
this works too(though rsync on win32 can be flakey).

another way could be to setup apache-ssl, and export your data over apache,
setup HTTP auth ..though this should be more of a last resort.

nate




-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




secure network file access

2002-12-10 Thread matt
Hi all,
I need some advice.
I'd like to have the home directorys on my woody box available to
machines on the local (NATed) network, and via the internet.
samba is good for local access...but (i don't think) it can be pushed
through a NAT-based router.  

What is the best package to do such a thing as securely as possible.  the
client software must be able to run on windows machines as well.

thanks,
-matt 

P.S.  Please send replys directly to me, I just unsubscribed from the
list (mail quota too low).

-- 
http://fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Compiling gsview

2002-12-10 Thread Sridhar M.A.
Hi,

I am trying to run gsview 4.3. When I try opening a ps file, it says
that it cannot find libgs.so. A quick search on debian's packages page
did not yield any package that contained the above mentioned file. 

Is there any package/metapackage that provides libgs.so so that I can
use/compile gsview?

Regards,

-- 
Sridhar M.A.

You're never too old to become younger.
-- Mae West


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: mozilla mail reader

2002-12-10 Thread nate
Bruce Park said:
> Hello debian users,
>
> I am currently using Mozilla 1.0.0 and I noticed a strange effect in the
> mail reader. The mail reader has "fields" such as subject, date, etc. In
> the  date field, I get the time when the mail was sent or received instead
> of the  date. Is this field configurable? I already e-mailed the admin and
> asked. He  told me that it was working well for others and himself.
> Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

what? you talkin about when you open an email it shows the data inside the
email that was when it was sent ? instead of your 'current' date? I'm
lost, because this sounds perfectly normal. Have you looked at the raw email
itself? can you post a screenshot to a web/ftp site so it's more clear?

nate




-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




mozilla mail reader

2002-12-10 Thread Bruce Park
Hello debian users,

I am currently using Mozilla 1.0.0 and I noticed a strange effect in the 
mail reader. The mail reader has "fields" such as subject, date, etc. In the 
date field, I get the time when the mail was sent or received instead of the 
date. Is this field configurable? I already e-mailed the admin and asked. He 
told me that it was working well for others and himself.
Any help or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

bp




_
Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. 
http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail


--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: faster boot sequence

2002-12-10 Thread Jason Majors
> Jason Majors wrote:
> > I've started a project http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/oggcastd/ to play
> > Ogg Vorbis and MP3 files in my car. The box I use boots automatically when
> > it gets power, but it still takes almost 30s after I turn the key to get
> > sound.
> > How can I speed up the boot process?
> 
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 12:11:10PM -0500, Joey Hess scribbled...
> Wellm how far does it need to boot before you can run the ogg player?
> I'll bet you can move the init script for the player to run as
> /etc/rc2.d/S01whatever and shave off a few seconds. I do this with xdm
> on laptops as well. The rest of the boot can happen after the important
> stuff starts up. If you're feeling really antsy you could put it in
> /etc/rcS.d/S36, so it runs right after all disks are mounted.
> 
I was about to boot it up to check, but plugged in my notebook's 19V PS,
instead of the correct 12V, and now the power distribution board is dead. :(
But it was pretty low in the boot order, not S01, but pretty low.

I'm mostly wondering about things I can pull out of rc2.d and rcS.d that
aren't really needed for a simple box like this.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: WSFTP problems from Win2000 to Debian--PLEASE HELP!

2002-12-10 Thread Sasha Karlik

Thanks, but that answer got me absolutely nowhere.  All permissions are
checked.
I may not have the correct nic driver installed, or possibly ???  I don't
know.
Still need help, PLEASE!
Sasha Karlik

- Original Message -
From: "ernst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: WSFTP problems from Win2000 to Debian--PLEASE HELP!


>
> Looks like you need to check the permissions on the side you are putting
> the files.
>
> /ernst
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sasha Karlik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:01 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: WSFTP problems from Win2000 to Debian--PLEASE HELP!
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a network connection between a Debian box and a win2000 box.
> > My WSFTP client browses to the file sytem on the debian box.
> > When I try to put files to the debian box, it locks and fails with this
> > message:
> > ! Receive error: Blocking call cancelled
> > I tried with passive transfer mode both on and off.
> > The same error message appears, regardless.
> > Does anyone know what I can do to make my FTP transfers work from the
> > Windows side?
> >
>



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: How insecure are cable connections, versus dialup?

2002-12-10 Thread Geordie Birch
said Jeffrey Taylor (on 2002-12-09),

> Quoting Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > cable ... its you and all your neighbors  watching/sharing that copper
> >
>
> Can you provide evidence for this?  That cable modems run in
> "promiscuous" mode?
>
> Jeffrey

ettercap will sniff switched LANS.

Geordie.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: How insecure are cable connections, versus dialup?

2002-12-10 Thread Geordie Birch
said Jason Pepas (on 2002-12-09),

> > some folks like to sniff passwds... those are some of the ones you
> > should worry about... ( there are ssh based pwd sniffers too )
>
> ssh based password sniffers?  can you provide us with any evidence of this?

don't know about ssh2 but ettercap works great for ssh1 man-in-the-middle
attacks.

Geordie.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Debian Package for viewing/editing .ai files (AdobeIllustrator)

2002-12-10 Thread Ludwig
On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 19:54, Hugh Saunders wrote:
> Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:42:13AM +, Doug MacFarlane wrote:
> > 
> > Team:
> > 
> > I'm way out of my league here, so if anyone with some graphics skills would
> > like to help, I'd really appreciate it.
> > 
> > I use the gimp to do basic manipulations on jpeg and photoshop files to produce
> > basic graphics for a website.
> > 
> > I've been given copies of the most recent "original art" at a set of .ai
> > files (Adobe Illustrator).  My gimp didn't know how to read them natively.
> >  Is there a plug-in?  An alternative package?  Even if I just crop, scale,
> > and convert to .jpeg or .gif I'll be fine . . .
> > 
> > Secondly, I have a .jpeg of a logo that's on a white background.  I need
> > to make the background transparent.  Any idea how?
> hello, im not sure about the illustrator stuff [think there would be
> problems with compatability with gimp as illustrator is essentially a
> vector image generator and gimp a raster based image
> editor/gen/whatever.  guesscthere are various raster2vector and vice versa thingies]
> 
> anyway... in gimp, to remove the white background, you want to make sure
> the image has an alpha layer [right click on image, layers->add alpha
> layer] then use the 'select contiguous regions' tool [looks like a magic
> wand in the tool box] to select the background. Once the background is
> selected simply do ctrl-k to clear [assuming you havent messed around
> with they kbd-shorts.

.ai files are a really really non-standard format for transferring
vector artwork.  Unless you're supposed to be manipulating the file's
layers, there's no reason your artist shouldn't be giving you EPS files,
which Illustrator can easily generate, and OpenOffice Draw and GIMP can
easily open.  (You might have to run them through eps2eps first,
though.)

Bear in mind that the JPEG format doesn't support transparency, so
you'll have to save that logo as a GIF or PNG.





signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part


  1   2   3   4   >