Re: Non-free repo on DVD!

[Kumar Appaiah]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 07:23:56PM +0100, José Santos wrote:
> wget --force-directories --no-host-directories \
>  --input-file Download.list
> ---
> but it just doesn't work, i gives me this output:
> 
> wget: invalid option -- f
> Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]...
> 
> Try `wget --help' for more options.
> /home/un1xer/bin/debnf.sh: line 13:
> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/ChangeLog: No such file or directory

For one, these files don't really exist on ftp.debian.org. See for
yourself at:
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/

But they are there at:
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/

Replace ftp.debian.org with another mirror. But that doesn't seem to
end your problems. Hope someone else can throw more light.

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Re: xen, raid and initramfs failure

[martin f krafft]

also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.07.10.0834 +0200]:
> Can I please see your mdadm.conf file and the generated initramfs?
> Please put them somewhere where I can download them instead of
> attaching them to an email. If it turns out to be what I think it
> is, it should be a trivial bug to fix.

Try the following patch agaist
/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/mdadm. It ensures that RAID levels
include the word 'raid'. I think your mdadm.conf may say stuff like
level=5, when it should say level=raid5 or not specify level= at
all.

Index: hook
===
--- hook(revision 351)
+++ hook(working copy)
@@ -198,7 +198,7 @@
   [ -n "${dev:-}" ] || continue
   echo -n "${dev}:"
   if [ -n "${level:-}" ]; then
-echo -n "$level"
+echo -n "raid${level#raid}"
   else
 echo -n "$($MDADM --detail $dev | sed -rne 's,[[:space:]]+Raid Level : 
,,p')"
   fi

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Re: xen, raid and initramfs failure

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.07.10.0750 +0200]:
> it is indeed what is happening. the local-top/mdadm script sources
> conf/md.conf. That file resets the value of MD_MODULES from stuff
> like "raid0 raid1..." to "0 1 5" and thus it bombs out on the
> boot. 

This must be the trail of the bug, because on my systems, MD_MODULES
in conf/md.conf has the 'raid' prefix: MD_MODULES='raid1 raid10'

Can I please see your mdadm.conf file and the generated initramfs?
Please put them somewhere where I can download them instead of
attaching them to an email. If it turns out to be what I think it
is, it should be a trivial bug to fix.

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Re: Qemu and existing windows partition

[Aenn Seidhe Priest]

Here's a document describing the caveats of a Windows-to-Virtualbox
migration:

http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows




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in every respect. And they lived with it, and on it, and under it, and 
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Re: xen, raid and initramfs failure

[Andrew Sackville-West]

reviving an old thread as I have more to add...

ping martin krafft...


On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 11:45:38AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.03.30.1920 +0200]:
> > Failure: failed to load Module 0 no such module
> > Failure: failed to load Module 1 no such module
> > Failure: failed to load Module 5 no such module
> 
> I don't even know what creates those messages.

these mesages are created by the initramfs script local-top/mdadm. 

> 
> > looks like it should just interate through the list and load the
> > modules. I have confirmed that it works the way I expect in bash,
> > but it doesn't work properly when booting. for some reason the
> > module names seem to get replaced with just hte numbers "0" "1"
> > and "5".
> 
> No, I don't think this is what's happening, but I also don't know
> what is going on.

it is indeed what is happening. the local-top/mdadm script sources
conf/md.conf. That file resets the value of MD_MODULES from stuff like
"raid0 raid1..." to "0 1 5" and thus it bombs out on the boot. 

> 
> > I have hacked the script and rebuilt my initrds by commenting out
> > the above section and just putting in a bunch of modprobes and it
> > works. But clearly something wacky is going on here. 
> 
> Can you edit the script, add set -x at the top and post the output?

I've done that. here is the relevant output from one of my DomU's when booting:


Begin: Running /scripts/local-top ...
+ PREREQ=udev_helper
+ prereqs
+ echo udev_helper
+ exit 0
+ PREREQ=udev_helper
+ . /scripts/functions
+ [ -e /scripts/local-top/md ]
+ MDADM=/sbin/mdadm
+ [ -x /sbin/mdadm ]
+ MD_DEVS=all
+ MD_MODULES=linear multipath raid0 raid1 raid456 raid5 raid6 raid10

note that MD_MODULES is correctly set here but...

+ [ -s /conf/md.conf ]
+ . /conf/md.conf

.../conf/md.conf gets sourced here and ...

+ MD_HOMEHOST=bigmomma
+ MD_DEVPAIRS=/dev/md1:5 /dev/md0:1 /dev/md11:1 /dev/md12:1
/dev/md10:0 /dev/md2:5
+ MD_LEVELS=5 1 1 1 0 5
+ MD_DEVS=all
+ MD_MODULES=0 1 5

... that resets MD_MODULES here, before  the modprobes begin below...

+ verbose
+ return 0
+ log_begin_msg Loading MD modules
+ [ -x /sbin/usplash_write ]
+ _log_msg Begin: Loading MD modules ...
+ [ n = y ]
+ echo Begin: Loading MD modules ...
Begin: Loading MD modules ...
+ modprobe --syslog -v 0
modprobe: FATAL: Module 0 not found.

+ log_failure_msg failed to load module 0.
+ _log_msg Failure: failed to load module 0.
+ [ n = y ]
+ echo Failure: failed to load module 0.
Failure: failed to load module 0.
+ modprobe --syslog -v 1
modprobe: FATAL: Module 1 not found.

+ log_failure_msg failed to load module 1.
+ _log_msg Failure: failed to load module 1.
+ [ n = y ]
+ echo Failure: failed to load module 1.
Failure: failed to load module 1.
+ modprobe --syslog -v 5
modprobe: FATAL: Module 5 not found.

+ log_failure_msg failed to load module 5.
+ _log_msg Failure: failed to load module 5.
+ [ n = y ]
+ echo Failure: failed to load module 5.
Failure: failed to load module 5.
+ log_end_msg
+ [ -x /sbin/usplash_write ]
+ _log_msg Done.
+ [ n = y ]
+ echo Done.
Done.
+ update_progress
+ [ -d /dev/.initramfs ]
+ [ -z 2 ]
+ PROGRESS_STATE=3
+ echo PROGRESS_STATE=3
+ [ -x /sbin/usplash_write ]
+ [ ! -f /proc/mdstat ]
+ verbose
+ return 0
+ panic cannot initialise MD subsystem (/proc/mdstat missing)
+ [ -x /sbin/usplash_write ]
+ [  = 0 ]

clearly there is a conflict in the way md.conf is set up and I
frankly don't know where that happens. 

> 
> > 2. How do I unpack my initrd to actually look at the script that is in
> >the initrd (maybe it gets changed somehow?) so I can check that out
> >directly. 
> 
> zcat initrd.img | cpio -i
> 
> > 3. is this a bug? 
> 
> We'll see.

I'm not sure what really brought this all about, but I suspect that
perhaps this machine got something messed up in its raid configuration
at the end of the etch release cycle. honestly, i haven't spent much
time digging for this problem as my uptimes are so long, that booting
just doesn't happen that much. It came up recently due to some minor
problems in one of my DomU's and i took it offline for a fsck. upon
reboot, i noticed the set -x output streaming by and went back to take
a look. My DomU's use the same initrd (I should probably fix that) as
Dom0 and end up providing a great test bed for this problem as i don't
have to take the whole system down to troubleshoot it. 

I haven't had a kernel upgrade since the problem surfaced, and so no
opportunity to see if the problem has been resolved yet either. But I
now have multiple initrd's floating around for this system and so can
test it a little more easily.

If there is more i can do to determine if this is a real problem, or
just some local anomaly I'm experiencing, please let me know.

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Re: Qemu and existing windows partition

[Aenn Seidhe Priest]

Alternately, there's an Open Source version of Virtualbox, a virtualisation
machine which runs much smoother than QEmu, http://www.virtualbox.org

It does tend to eat serious amounts of memory, but for a box with 512 MBs
(256 MBs allocated to the virtual machine, plus handling and VRAM) it
shouldn't be much of a trouble.

The downside is it doesn't have a way of mounting of disk images (or
partitions) directly, so the partition would have to be set up within a
virtual machine in advance, then data copied to it off an ISO image or
transferred by network (or somesuch). A Linux LiveCD image might help in
setting up the partition, something like System Rescue CD -
http://www.sysresccd.org/ - should come in nicely.

The safest method is as follows:

1. Back everything up to ISO images.
2. Create the partition within a virtual drive image (FAT32 might be better
- different versions of NT do not require specific security permissions on
files to boot, so an entire NT install can be copied from an NTFS partition
to the FAT32 one), the System Rescue CD image comes with Ranish Partition
Manager bootable straight from the initial Linux boot prompt.
3. At this point all of the files should be present on the new Windows
"drive", but not the MBR code, and the partition might still not be
bootable, so with Ranish Partition Manager booting off the Live CD, or with
some other utility, copy/save the MBR of the Windows partition. Then
restore the MBR inside the virtual machine.

Or, even simpler: let the Virtualbox machine boot off the "restore" CD, let
it get to the point where it writes the bootloader and the MBR boot code,
quit the install, then copy all of the Windows partition's contents to the
virtual drive's partition.

Later on, Virtualbox' networking could be used for file sharing between the
host and the guest system.

On 09.07.2007 at 21:51 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

>On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:51:31PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
>> I apologize if this has already been discussed to death.  I did do
>multiple
>> searches on phrases like "existing partition" but didn't find what I'm
>> hoping exists.
>> 
>> The box I'm typing on, like most cheap PCs, came with Windows Home
>> preinstalled, but no installation disks, just "restore" disks to
>reproduce
>> the exact original disk image.  When I installed Debian, I shrank the
>> original Windows partition and never booted it again.
>> 
>> I need to use Windows software occasionally for work, so I'd like to set
>up
>> qemu, but all instructions I can find for it require the installation
CD,
>> which I don't have.  Is there any reason I can't just define /dev/hda
>(real)
>> as hda (for qemu)?  If not, it's only 15 gig--what if I just dd a copy
of
>> it?
>
>i've played around with this a bit, but had no real success. The
>problem is that usually windows will not boot on the "new hardware"
>of qemu. There are a couple of work-arounds. One I've tried, and
>failed with, is to make a full system backup using windows tools,
>including the registry state. You then do a basic installation (this
>of course requires a cd) to your qemu image and then restore the
>system from the backup which you've placed somewhere where qemu can
>get at it. As I said, this failed for me, after multiple tries. The
>other option is to prepare windows for new hardware. There are a
>couple ways to do this using various versions of windows. The process
>is that essentially, you have to get windows into a state where it
>will boot from and recognise new hardware, as if you were changing the
>motherboard. THere are many google hits on this. The one I find
>intriguing, but haven't tried, is to do the following within windows:
>
>remove any specialised disk drivers and replace them with the windows
>default drivers for ide disks.
>
>remove any specialised pci bridge drivers and replace them with the
>window default drivers.
>
>remove the vga driver.
>
>reboot in the new system and it should come up and you can then
>install proper drivers. I guess windows has some "generic" ide, pci
>and vga drivers that will allow you to boot from most hardware.
>
>This method seems to make sense to me BUT it has the problem of
>changing your windows install into a state where it may not boot AT
>ALL. So definitely dd it first. 
>
>hth
>
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Re: Server injection attack

[rocky]

On Jul 10, 12:10 pm, Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 09 July 2007 20:05, rocky wrote:
>
> > Thank you very much for your reply! Yes all of the rest are getting a
> > 403 response. The problem is that the log files are sending over by
> > FortressITX Abuse Dept. They are complaining our server is used to do
> > injection attack against other servers.
>
> > Can any of you help me please?
>
> Rocky,
>
> Turn the server off.  With someone else controlling your server, you
> have no idea what it is doing, who it is attacking, or what private
> information it is giving away.  Depending upon your jurisdiction, you
> may be legally liable for your server's attacks on others.  It's almost
> certainly attacking a lot more than just FortressITX.  Turning the
> server off may be unpleasant but all of the alternatives are worse.
>
> Then find someone knowledgeable and trustworthy to see what can be
> done, which will probably require a wipe and reinstall.  When you
> reinstall, be sure that everyone uses different passwords and keys,
> as your current passwords and keys are compromised.
>
> --Mike Bird
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Hey Mike,

Thank you very much for your help! Are you meaning someone has been
controlling our server? If we are going to reinstall the server, we
will need to use the backup to restore the websites hosted on our
server. Does the back up will make the new installation of the server
vulnerable?

Thanks a lot in advance!
Blessings,
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Re: Intel 965 chipset and Debian Etch AMD64

[Jeff D]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi.
It seems, Debian Etch AMD64 installer is blind to CDROM on Q965 Intel
chipset. On SATA I have only one HDD and I have CDROM as primary
driver on PATA.
What can I do?



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Re: Qemu and existing windows partition

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 11:51:31PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> I apologize if this has already been discussed to death.  I did do multiple
> searches on phrases like "existing partition" but didn't find what I'm
> hoping exists.
> 
> The box I'm typing on, like most cheap PCs, came with Windows Home
> preinstalled, but no installation disks, just "restore" disks to reproduce
> the exact original disk image.  When I installed Debian, I shrank the
> original Windows partition and never booted it again.
> 
> I need to use Windows software occasionally for work, so I'd like to set up
> qemu, but all instructions I can find for it require the installation CD,
> which I don't have.  Is there any reason I can't just define /dev/hda (real)
> as hda (for qemu)?  If not, it's only 15 gig--what if I just dd a copy of
> it?

i've played around with this a bit, but had no real success. The
problem is that usually windows will not boot on the "new hardware"
of qemu. There are a couple of work-arounds. One I've tried, and
failed with, is to make a full system backup using windows tools,
including the registry state. You then do a basic installation (this
of course requires a cd) to your qemu image and then restore the
system from the backup which you've placed somewhere where qemu can
get at it. As I said, this failed for me, after multiple tries. The
other option is to prepare windows for new hardware. There are a
couple ways to do this using various versions of windows. The process
is that essentially, you have to get windows into a state where it
will boot from and recognise new hardware, as if you were changing the
motherboard. THere are many google hits on this. The one I find
intriguing, but haven't tried, is to do the following within windows:

remove any specialised disk drivers and replace them with the windows
default drivers for ide disks.

remove any specialised pci bridge drivers and replace them with the
window default drivers.

remove the vga driver.

reboot in the new system and it should come up and you can then
install proper drivers. I guess windows has some "generic" ide, pci
and vga drivers that will allow you to boot from most hardware.

This method seems to make sense to me BUT it has the problem of
changing your windows install into a state where it may not boot AT
ALL. So definitely dd it first. 

hth

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Re: Server injection attack

[Mike Bird]

On Monday 09 July 2007 20:05, rocky wrote:
> Thank you very much for your reply! Yes all of the rest are getting a
> 403 response. The problem is that the log files are sending over by
> FortressITX Abuse Dept. They are complaining our server is used to do
> injection attack against other servers.
>
> Can any of you help me please?

Rocky,

Turn the server off.  With someone else controlling your server, you
have no idea what it is doing, who it is attacking, or what private
information it is giving away.  Depending upon your jurisdiction, you
may be legally liable for your server's attacks on others.  It's almost
certainly attacking a lot more than just FortressITX.  Turning the
server off may be unpleasant but all of the alternatives are worse.

Then find someone knowledgeable and trustworthy to see what can be
done, which will probably require a wipe and reinstall.  When you
reinstall, be sure that everyone uses different passwords and keys,
as your current passwords and keys are compromised.

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Re: Help buying Economic Printer

[Gernot Hassenpflug]

Agreed, dot matrix is probably cheaper than ink cartidges, depends on
your area probably though. I just wanted to add that if you try hard
enough you can get a printer 2nd hand (maybe for free) so just look
for cheap inks/ribbons. 

Printers: avoid newer printers where the inks have a lot of
electronics attached to them (I would stay to year 2000 or earlier.)

Make sure it works under gutenprint/CUPS, that way you can make use of
the economy print modes which the printer manufacturer's driver does
not supply.

Check that it will feed non-standard paper, then you can use cheaper,
thinner paper (I use tracing paper of which I have tons to excess for
a lot of my printing in 180dpi B/W economy mode with an Epson PM-760C).
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Qemu and existing windows partition

[Carl Fink]

I apologize if this has already been discussed to death.  I did do multiple
searches on phrases like "existing partition" but didn't find what I'm
hoping exists.

The box I'm typing on, like most cheap PCs, came with Windows Home
preinstalled, but no installation disks, just "restore" disks to reproduce
the exact original disk image.  When I installed Debian, I shrank the
original Windows partition and never booted it again.

I need to use Windows software occasionally for work, so I'd like to set up
qemu, but all instructions I can find for it require the installation CD,
which I don't have.  Is there any reason I can't just define /dev/hda (real)
as hda (for qemu)?  If not, it's only 15 gig--what if I just dd a copy of
it?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Help buying Economic Printer

[Andrew Malcolmson]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 05:36:09PM -, ispmarin wrote:
> Hello all at Debian User.
> 
> I am looking for a printer with very low per page cost (catridges,
> tonners etc) and not very expensive to buy. I dont care if it is laser
> or deskjet. Performance is not a issue (it can be slow), and the
> quality of the page dont need to be high (I will print mainly texts
> and code, and very occasionally a graph), and can be black and white.

If you're looking for an inexpensive printer you can pick up tomorrow at your 
local
Staples, some of the most recent HP's are surprisingly cheap to run.

The new $99 C4280 (an All-in-One, so also a scanner) takes a $30 add on large
black cartridge that yields 750 pages, for a cost per page of around 4
cents. 

However, since this is a new model, for driver support you'd have to
install hplip from download instead of from the Debian
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Re: Help buying Economic Printer

[terryc]

Your cost per page really depends on how many pages, in total you are going to 
print.

Inkjets are relatively expensive per page, unless you get yumcha ink at exceedingly good prices. ever noticed how you can buy a inkjet printer for less that the costof the refills? 


If you want a cheap cents per page laser, then you really need to go back to 
something based on the Canon SX engine, like a HP Laserjet II, Gestetner, etc, 
etc. with so many machine using the same toner cartridge, the cost of tower per 
page was the lowest ever. Still is.

Now, if you really want low cost per page, mono, look at a good dot matrix 
printer. something like the NEC P6300, will do everything you want. Yes, 
including graphs and graphics. Not as good as postscript, but perfectly clear 
and usable.





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Re: Server injection attack

[rocky]

On Jul 10, 10:50 am, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 01:55:54AM -, rocky wrote:
> > Hey list,
>
> > Currently, we get some notice about some one is using our server doing
> > injection attacks against other servers.
>
> > Below are some log files they sent to us
> > $--Snap begin---$
> >  our.server.ip.address - - [09/Jul/2007:00:31:43 +0200] "GET
> > >  //.comhttp://http://chapolin.110mb.com/check.jpg?HTTP/1.0"; 403 7414 "-"
> > >  "Mozilla/5.0"
> > >  our.server.ip.address - - [09/Jul/2007:00:38:01 +0200] "GET
> > >  //.infohttp://http://chapolin.110mb.com/check.jpg?HTTP/1.0"; 403 7415
> > >  "-" "Mozilla/5.0"
> > >  our.server.ip.address - - [09/Jul/2007:00:38:01 +0200] "GET
> > >  //.brhttp://http://chapolin.110mb.com/check.jpg?HTTP/1.0"; 403 7413 "-"
> > >  "Mozilla/5.0"
> > $snap end-$
>
> > Unfortunately, the person who is in charge of server maintaining is
> > away now and we can not get hold of him. Can any of you give me some
> > direction on how to track down the security hole and eliminate it
> > please?
>
> > Thanks a lot in advance!
>
> Well, if all the requests are getting a 403 response like the ones you
> have snipped, then I wouldn't worry.  The 403 code means "forbidden", so
> your server is not allowing the access anyways and only logging it.
>
> Regards,
>
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Hey Roberto,

Thank you very much for your reply! Yes all of the rest are getting a
403 response. The problem is that the log files are sending over by
FortressITX Abuse Dept. They are complaining our server is used to do
injection attack against other servers.

Can any of you help me please?

Thanks a lot!

Blesings,
Rocky

Text display problem with maya8 and debian etch

[DC A]

At last i've installed maya8 on debian etch. I actually love it. But having
problem with the displayed text. i run maya, go to maya's preference window
using 'Window' menu->Settings/Preferences->Preferences and texts are
readable. as soon as i scroll using scrollbar or mouse wheel, all the texts 
in

that window(connected to scrollbar) are unreadable. seems texts are laid
over each other. This problem also occur on any maya window (with text)
that has scrollbar. When i turn off Beryl manager, scrolling in any maya8
window is a breeze. no problem with displayed text. So i'm guessing beryl
might be the cause(i could be wrong). Is there anyway to fix this
behavior? Thanks for your time.

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Re: Server injection attack

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 01:55:54AM -, rocky wrote:
> Hey list,
> 
> Currently, we get some notice about some one is using our server doing
> injection attacks against other servers.
> 
> Below are some log files they sent to us
> $--Snap begin---$
>  our.server.ip.address - - [09/Jul/2007:00:31:43 +0200] "GET
> >  //.comhttp://http://chapolin.110mb.com/check.jpg? HTTP/1.0" 403 7414 "-"
> >  "Mozilla/5.0"
> >  our.server.ip.address - - [09/Jul/2007:00:38:01 +0200] "GET
> >  //.infohttp://http://chapolin.110mb.com/check.jpg? HTTP/1.0" 403 7415
> >  "-" "Mozilla/5.0"
> >  our.server.ip.address - - [09/Jul/2007:00:38:01 +0200] "GET
> >  //.brhttp://http://chapolin.110mb.com/check.jpg? HTTP/1.0" 403 7413 "-"
> >  "Mozilla/5.0"
> $snap end-$
> 
> Unfortunately, the person who is in charge of server maintaining is
> away now and we can not get hold of him. Can any of you give me some
> direction on how to track down the security hole and eliminate it
> please?
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance!
> 
Well, if all the requests are getting a 403 response like the ones you
have snipped, then I wouldn't worry.  The 403 code means "forbidden", so
your server is not allowing the access anyways and only logging it.

Regards,

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Server injection attack

[rocky]

Hey list,

Currently, we get some notice about some one is using our server doing
injection attacks against other servers.

Below are some log files they sent to us
$--Snap begin---$
 our.server.ip.address - - [09/Jul/2007:00:31:43 +0200] "GET
>  //.comhttp://http://chapolin.110mb.com/check.jpg? HTTP/1.0" 403 7414 "-"
>  "Mozilla/5.0"
>  our.server.ip.address - - [09/Jul/2007:00:38:01 +0200] "GET
>  //.infohttp://http://chapolin.110mb.com/check.jpg? HTTP/1.0" 403 7415
>  "-" "Mozilla/5.0"
>  our.server.ip.address - - [09/Jul/2007:00:38:01 +0200] "GET
>  //.brhttp://http://chapolin.110mb.com/check.jpg? HTTP/1.0" 403 7413 "-"
>  "Mozilla/5.0"
$snap end-$

Unfortunately, the person who is in charge of server maintaining is
away now and we can not get hold of him. Can any of you give me some
direction on how to track down the security hole and eliminate it
please?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Blessings,
Rocky


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how to set environment variables in init.d/ scripts

[Yuwen Dai]

Dear all,

I installed distcc. Distcc is invoked by a script in init.d.  In order to
use a cross compiler, the distcc needs to know the path of the cross
compiler and other environment variable. I put lines like:

export VAR=xxx

in the script.  Seems no effect.  What's the correct method?

Best regards,
Yuwen

Re: Help buying Economic Printer

[Douglas Allan Tutty]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 05:36:09PM -, ispmarin wrote:
> Hello all at Debian User.
> 
> I am looking for a printer with very low per page cost (catridges,
> tonners etc) and not very expensive to buy. I dont care if it is laser
> or deskjet. Performance is not a issue (it can be slow), and the
> quality of the page dont need to be high (I will print mainly texts
> and code, and very occasionally a graph), and can be black and white.
> Does anybody has some suggestions?
> 

As far as I've been able to see (and by their prevalence in
PointOfSale), its hard to beat a dot-matrix.  Slow, yes; noisy, perhaps;
low-res, NearLetterQuality; black-and-white, OK.  Inexpensive: over the
lifetime (decades) yes, upfront-price somewhere between an inkjet and a
laser.  They are the cheapest to operate: new ribbon under $10 good for
about 50,000 pages.   You can either use tractor-feed paper (slightly
more than loose) or loose reams if you have a sheet-feeder bin.

For plain text, they should all work.  For postscript via gs with a
suitable print filter (cups, LPRNG + ?, lpd + ?), they also work just
fine.  9-pin have lower res, a bit faster, and last more decades than
24-pin.

To get an idea of what I'm talking about, look at the Epsons on their
web site, and look at eBay for bigger used beasts that (Caviot Emptor)
still have some years in them; you'll probably pay more for shipping
than for the printer.  You may even be able to get one for a few bucks
at a used computer store.

For example, my printer was given to me when the owner got rid of their
IBM PC Jr.  Its an IBM PC Graphics Printer, as pictured on the press
release anouncing the origional IBM PC.  Still runs, ribbons are
off-the-shelf.  The only problem is that the little do-hicky that winds
the ribbon broke off two owners ago.

Good luck,

Doug.


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Intel 965 chipset and Debian Etch AMD64

[drop669]

Hi.
It seems, Debian Etch AMD64 installer is blind to CDROM on Q965 Intel
chipset. On SATA I have only one HDD and I have CDROM as primary
driver on PATA.
What can I do?



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Re: Openoffice.org spell checking

[Alan Ianson]

On Mon July 9 2007 07:11, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> Alan Ianson wrote:
> > I can't seem to get spell checking working in Openoffice. It used to
> > work in sarge's ooo 1.3 (I think). Looking through aptitude I only
> > see a few foreign languages under hunspell so I don't think that will
> > work for me.
> >
> > How can I get English (Canada) or (USA) working with Ooo 2+?
>
> Use the myspell-en-gb package for spelling.  Use the
> openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-a for the thesaurus (I'm assuming you want
> Canadian spellings; so, the Great Britain spelling dictionary and the
> Australian thesaurus that I've listed here should work.)

Thanks, got it working now. I kept changing the user interface and local 
setting. I changed the default language for documents to english-uk and that 
seems to work as expected.


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Re: sudden unexplained breakage in aptitude

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 02:02:54PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> hey gang, one of my boxes as just showed sudden, unexplained breakage
> in aptitude. This is xen domU firewall running almost-up-to-date
> etch. For a few days, the only update showing was
> 
[...]

> 
> could it be just a corrupted apt cache perhaps? 
>

apparently so. I mv'd /var/cache/apt out of the way and reran aptitude
update && aptitude dist-upgrade and its back to the one package to
upgrade. I'll have to check for fs corruption...

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Re: localhost versus mydomain

[mess-mate]

Nyizsnyik Ferenc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:49:14 +0200
| mess-mate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| 
| > Hi,
| > i've troubles with my localhost.
| > When i do a http://localhost/xxx
| > 'requested url was not found' error.
| > The server search for http://mydomain.com/xxx
| > 
| > I have a /var/www/mydomain.com
| > and /var/www/xxx (with an alias to xxx)
| > 
| > mydomain.com is a enabled site in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled.
| > Debian/etch
| > 
| > How can i get localhost as it normally must do ?
| > 
| > mess-mate   
| 
| Check your /etc/hosts! It should include a line like this:
| 
| 127.0.0.1 localhost
| 
| and probably other names as well, separated by spaces or tabs.
| 
| -- 
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain  localhost
is there. So that's not the problem.
It have some what to do with mydomain i think.

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Re: restarting pump (DHCP) automatically when network unavailable at boot time

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2007-07-03 17:44:03 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > The problem with dhclient is that it disconfigures the loopback
> > interface under some conditions. A bug is still open after 7 years!
> > 
> >   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=65718
> 
> That bug may still be open but I have never seen it in any
> configuration.  I think that bug may no longer be there but no one has
> verified it to root cause and so it has not been closed.  There is no
> discussion after the first report.  Is anyone else seeing that bug?  I
> would guess not.

I saw it 3 years later. See the merged bug 208605

  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=208605

where there is a discussion.

> > Also I need to control whether a DHCP client is running or not,
> 
> Hmm...  Usually saying 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' is enough.  When
> ifupdown runs it will automatically start the installed dhcp client.
> For me when I did not want that I simply did not configure that device
> as an 'auto' device and then I could control it completely.

It may be enough if you always use DHCP. But there are still networks
without DHCP.

> The Etch default is to use network-manager to bring network devices
> online.  See /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian for full
> details.

I don't want something graphical.

> > because on another machine (a laptop) I use netenv and DHCP is not
> > used on some networks (BTW, I've already have a "killall pump" in
> > my netenv scripts on this laptop, and I could probably do the same
> > thing with dhclient).
> 
> I have not used netenv and I don't know about it

Description: Configure your system for different network environments
 Netenv lets  you choose your  network environment (and  other things)
 upon boot, which is useful  for notebook computers. The difference to
 similar  packages   is  that  it  doesn't  try   to  autodetect  your
 environment,  but expects  your input.  You can,  however,  specify a
 default or  pass it  a parameter  from the boot  prompt to  allow for
 unattended boot. You  can also use it to  switch between environments
 without rebooting.

Note that there is a timeout, so that the machine will keep the same
network environment if it reboots while I'm not in front of it.

> but I think that maybe you simply need to remove all of the 'auto'
> and 'allow-hotplug' lines from the file. Then it won't be started
> automatically.

But I want it to be started automatically on some networks. This is
very important as I don't always have physical access to my machine.
The netenv utility allows that.

> Then you won't have to kill the dhcp clients.

This is unfortunately wrong. As I've said, there are networks without
DHCP (or one which I don't want to use), on which I need to use
"iface ... inet static". But if a DHCP client is still running (from
the previous environment), it reconfigures the network interface.
I've already had this problem, so I know I must kill the DHCP client.

Also, even if DHCP is always used, letting the network to be reconfigured
automatically when switching network may lead to lost mail for instance,
due to race condition. The correct steps are:

1. Bring the network interface down.
2. Update various configuration files (e.g. the new smarthost for the
   mail).
3. Bring the network interface up.

in this order. If step 2 is done after step 3, problems can occur.

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Re: RTF - proprietary or open?

[Linas Žvirblis]

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Celejar wrote:

> Which brings us back to my original point; why not RTF? It's apparently
> a fairly open format, and apparently virtually all word processors can
> read and write it.

I do not know if it is the format itself, or the limitation of the
applications I use, but RTF documents loose a lot of formatting, and
cannot be expected to look the same even when opened in the same word
processor. This is much worse than opening DOC in OpenOffice.org, or
opening DOC created in OpenOffice.org in Word.

It is great for sharing content with basic formatting, but not for
actual documents. Well, that is my experience at least.

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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Octavio Alvarez]

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:20:33 -0700, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> > On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.
>> >
>> > It *is* faster than iceweasel.
>> >
>> I have always thought that FireFox was faster than Opera.
>
> Seamonkey it's the fastest.

None faster than elinks. ;-)


Is elinks faster than links and links2 (serious question, I don't have
any idea) ?


I really don't know...

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Re: OT: QEMU Package faster

[Mike McCarty]

Scott Gifford wrote:

Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

[...]



I noticed that on her machine, QEMU does not eat lots of CPU, while
on my machine, it eats the machine. I've copied the exact raw image
disc from her machine to mine, but QEMU eats my CPU.



Perhaps it's a difference in processor features.  Newer CPUs from
Intel and AMD contain special virtualization instructions that make
running a VM much easier, and somewhat faster.  Maybe she has such a
chip and you don't?


My machine is newer and faster. Ours are both Celerons.

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Re: need good file explorer

[Linas Žvirblis]

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> IMHO, krusader is file manager done right! It is just awesome! Before that I
> have tried a lot of file managers such as konqueror, mc, xfe etc., But once
> I found krusader I stopped searching. I have never been a big fan of gnome,
> so dont know if something in GNOME beats krusader.

There is GNOME Commander (package "gnome-commander").

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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[steef]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.

It *is* faster than iceweasel.

But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that 
turns out to be a wash.


Hugo



no no no. seamonkey is the fastest.

steef


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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Sam Leon]

ArcticFox wrote:



On Jul 9, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Sam Leon wrote:



Matthew K Poer wrote:On Monday 09 July 2007 3:14 pm, Sam Leon wrote:


Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.

It *is* faster than iceweasel.

But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock
extension, that
turns out to be a wash.

Hugo

I really want to use opera but I can't because it seems to
force you to
use tabs >_<


Sam

Alright, although I cannot imagine why in the world you would
not want tabs...

In Opera's menu bar, click under Tools and select Preferences.
Click on the
Advanced tab. Near the bottom of the "Tabs" section there is a
setting
called "Open windows instead of tabs." That's Opera 9.21, at
least.


Yes played with that.  It would open in a new window but if you
clicked the home button on that new window it would go to a blank
page.  The other thing that drove me up the wall with opera was
the fact that I can't have more than one instance up.  I guess
they just want you to use one page and fill it up with a whole
bunch of tabs??

Sam


Why are you so anti-tabs? I find tab browsing to be a lot faster and 
easier to switch between tabs then trying to open multiple 
windows/instances.


I don't know.  I have never liked tabs


Sam

Re: Ringtone

[Mathias Brodala]

Hi Gustavo.

gustavo halperin, 09.07.2007 16:48:
>  There are any way to convert music to ringtone (i believe that is mid
> format) and listen this songs with mplayer or any player?

I don’t know how to convert to MIDI but playing works just fine with timidity.


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sudden unexplained breakage in aptitude

[Andrew Sackville-West]

hey gang, one of my boxes as just showed sudden, unexplained breakage
in aptitude. This is xen domU firewall running almost-up-to-date
etch. For a few days, the only update showing was

The following packages will be upgraded:
  libkrb53

so I've been back-burnering that one upgrade. suddenly today, I show:

The following packages are BROKEN:
  cron debconf debianutils dhcp3-client dpkg exim4 gnupg iptables
  libc6 libgcc1 libgnutls13 libpam-modules libpam0g
  libreadline5 libsasl2-2 libstdc++6 logrotate netbase openssh-client
  openssh-server passwd pciutils sysklogd
The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED:
  binutils dbus iproute libatm1 libdbus-1-3 libexpat1 libpcap0.8
  libx11-6 x11-common

and further, aptitude says:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libpam0g: Depends: libpam-runtime but it is not installable

[... snip a bunch of these...]

  exim4: Depends: exim4-base (>= 4.63) but it is not installable
 Depends: exim4-daemon-light but it is not installable or
  exim4-daemon-heavy but it is not installable or
  exim4-daemon-custom which is a virtual package.

[... snip a bunch more, exim left cause its easy to understand for me ...]


Resolving dependencies...
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Install the following packages:
coreutils [5.97-5.3 (stable, now)]
debconf-english [1.5.11 (stable)]
dhcp3-common [3.0.4-13 (stable, now)]
exim4-base [4.63-17 (stable)]
exim4-config [4.63-17 (stable)]
exim4-daemon-light [4.63-17 (stable)]

[... snip the rest ...]

these 3 exim packages are installed already... 



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l exim\* | awk '/^ii/ {print $1, $2, $3}'
ii exim4 4.63-17
ii exim4-base 4.63-17
ii exim4-config 4.63-17
ii exim4-daemon-light 4.63-17



and all the others are currently installed, whether they say (stable,
now) or just (stable).

wtf is this? I have made some changes to my apt system, but that was
days ago (installing and configuring approx) and this problem only
showed up yesterday

thoughts? what would cause this to suddenly appear? anyone else seeing
something similar?

and, btw, none of my other systems show this breakage. 

could it be just a corrupted apt cache perhaps? 


A


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Re: xprint config

[Adam Hardy]

Adam Hardy on 08/07/07 20:48, wrote:


I need to print some stuff to pdf but my xprint configuration seems to 
have something wrong with it.


Although I don't have any real printers, according to the docs I should 
have print queues to print to ps and pdf and dump them as files in my 
$HOME/Xprintjobs dir.


I don't have any printers according to xplsprinters, which is correct, 
but I don't even see the ps or pdf file queues in mozilla, which should 
be there if they are entered in the $XPCONFIG/C/print/Xprinters file - 
and they are.


I can't find anything telling me how to resolve this configuration. I 
removed, purged and re-installed xprint, but it didn't help.


I do have Xprt running.


One thing that might be quite relevant but I forgot to mention, this is on an 
etch box which evolved with etch through testing before becoming stable.


I have another machine running etch and there it's fine. That is a fresh 
installation of etch though. However I can see any difference.


Does that shed any light?


ta
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Re: shell : is syntax checking via option -n really working ?

[Bob McGowan]

Michelle Konzack wrote:

Am 2007-06-25 17:04:43, schrieb Bruno Costacurta:

Hello,
as I ckeck a script via 'sh -n ' I receive the syntax error 

^


listserver.tcl: 31: Syntax error: "else" unexpected (expecting "then")

  ^^^


8<--
proc scpAuth {sock} {
global pass clientpass authenticated






GiveList $sock
}
} then else {
  ^
GiveList $sock
}
}
8<--


Try onla "else" at the "^^^" line

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack


Bruno,

There's a lot of guess work in my comments, here.  ;)  I did not see the 
original post, and so may have missed something important there, as well.


The code being discussed here is TCL, which I have little experience 
with, so I will defer to Michelle regarding the error marked.


However, the original post looks to be using standard shell script 
debugging methods (sh -n  as marked above).


But, the error message looks like a legitimate TCL error message.

So, I guess you have a shell script that runs tclsh on a file called 
listserver.tcl?


If so, you need to be careful which environment you're actually doing 
the debugging in.


In fact, unless you have other errors in the shell script, it should not 
report any problems with the TCL part.  The only way the shell would 
ever complain about TCL code is when a shell syntax error earlier in the 
script allows it to see into the TCL code part.


This may not make much sense, I could be clearer if I had the original 
file you used in the 'sh -n ' you mentioned, to examine.


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Re: RTF - proprietary or open?

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Roberto C. Sánchez escreveu:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 01:33:07PM -0300, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote:
>> The Sun ODF Plug in for Microsoft Office gives users of Microsoft Word,
>> Excel and Powerpoint the ability to read, edit and save to the
>> ISO-standard Open Document Format. The ODF Plug in is available as a
>> free download from the Sun Download Center (SDLC). Download the ODF Plug in.
>>
> This is probably a good first step and good for home users and small
> businesses.  However, in big enterprises there will likely be some
> resistance.  I hope that it finds quick universal adoption.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Roberto
> 

True, but if more and more home users and small businesses start using
it, eventually the big ones will have to look towards the standard. All
big companies have smaller partners, and their adopting the open
standard would slowly push the big ones.

Well, that's some kind of hope, anyway...

Cassiano
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Ringtone

[gustavo halperin]

Hello

 There are any way to convert music to ringtone (i believe that is mid 
format) and listen this songs with mplayer or any player?


   Thank you in advance,
 Gustavo


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Re: Upgrade on box not on Net

[John K Masters]

On 16:02 Thu 05 Jul , Celejar wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:25:09 +0100
> John K Masters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Is it possible to upgrade a box not connected to the Internet?
> > 
> > I run etch on my home desktop and sid on my laptop but I have a machine
> > at work that is not, and never likely to be, connected to the internet.
> > It currently has etch installed off the 3 DVD set which I downloaded via
> > jigdo. I know I can create updated DVDs of etch using jigdo but how
> > could I upgrade from etch to sid with no internet connection? Is this
> > possible or even advisable? The main reason for wanting to upgrade is
> 
> This is what the apt-zip package is for.
> 

Thanks for that - works fine. I have Martin Krafft's book The Debian
System always at hand but could find no reference to apt-zip or any
other way of solving my problem. Is apt-zip a fairly new package?

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Re: USB-stick crashes

[Florian Kulzer]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 13:45:59 -0600, Art Edwards wrote:
> I just did a dist-upgrade (testing, amd64) and now the system will not read 
> a usbstick.
>
> I get the following error in kde, during automatic mount:
>
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1, missing 
> codpage or other error
> in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so

[...]

> usb-storage: device scan complete
> FAT: Unrecognized mount option "flush" or missing value
>
> This has happened for both of my USB sticks. I should point out that they 
> are still read on an ubuntu laptop and they were read on Friday before the 
> dist-upgrade.

Looks like this bug:

#432103: hal: Gives unknown mount option "flush" when mounting an USB stick 
(vfat)

It seems that this will be fixed when a new kernel (>= 2.6.19) comes to
testing. If you do not want to wait for that then you can try one
of the two patches/workarounds mentioned in the BTS.

I can confirm that KDE's mounting of vfat USB sticks works without
problems for kernel 2.6.21 on Sid with hal 0.5.9.1-2.

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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Celejar]

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:45:06 -0400
Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 03:25:40PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> [...]
> > We discuss this every now and then (I use privoxy), but is there any
> > convenient way to easily add stuff that privoxy misses to its config
> > files?  Also, the default Debian privoxy runs once as root; adblock can
> > obviously be configured on a per-user basis.  Of course, I suppose one
> > could run multiple privoxies, on different ports, for different
> > users ...
> 
> I've never seen a good reason for per-user ad blocking. If it's an ad, I
> want it blocked and I'm not clear on why anyone wouldn't. On the rare
> occasions when there is a false positive, privoxy has a link right in its
> block page for "go there anyway". If it's a false negative, it should be
> added, of course.

I suppose you're right, but in principle, browsing control should be
available to normal users.  I'm also not sure whether you're really
right that no user will ever want to see any ad.  As for the 'go there
anyway' links, I notice them when an entire page is blocked, but not
always when individual images are, especially small ones.  Am I missing
something?
 
> As for adding stuff easily, I have an /etc/privoxy/adblock.action file
> separate from any other action files (and referenced in /etc/privoxy/config).
> It's very simple:
> 
> {+block }
> .247realmedia.com
> .2o7.net
> .adbrite.com
> .adbureau.net
>   [ 90 more lines ]
> /(.*/)?adv/.*
> /(.*/)?ads/
> /(.*/)?adx/.*
> 
> When I run across a new ad server, I edit the file (sudoedit, actually,
> though I don't think there is any reason it couldn't be user-owned) and add
> another domain or pattern. I don't even have to restart privoxy, since it
> is smart enough to reread changed config files.

I agree that it can be done fairly simply, but right-clicking and
selecting 'block this' is still, at least for some, much more
straightforward than the following sequence: copy the ad server's url,
switch from the browser to an xterm, open an editor, move to the
desired location within the file, paste in the url, save the file.  I
know that some of this can be automated, and that cli gurus can do it
all quite quickly, but still ...
 
> > Celejar
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Re: Re: nvidia-kernel package: compilation failure with 2.6.21 [RESOLVED]

[Jim McCloskey]

Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

|> You can either rebuild the kernel and turn that off (Note: but in
|> that case I had hard hangs in qemu!) *or* use the descriptions 
|> in that page to rebuild the kbuild .deb and install nvidia so it does
|> not mind paravirt.

Just to close out the thread: building a kernel with PARAVIRT_CONFIG turned 
off did indeed resolve the issue. The nvidia-kernel module then compiled and 
installed without difficulty.

Thanks once more to all who helped,

Jim



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Re: tell ipod a recording is an 'audiobook'?

[John K Masters]

On 11:15 Mon 09 Jul , David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:22 PM, Matt Price wrote:
> >i'd like to convince the ipod that these tracks are not music
> >but audiobooks (whatever that really means).
> >
> >does anyone know how to do this?  if it can be done from amarok that's
> >great, otherwise i can use whatever music player is required.
>
> There's a Windows utility that does this, called "MP3 to iPod Audio
> Book Converter".  If anyone knows of a Linux app that does the same
> thing, I'd like to hear about it.
>
>
There is a simpler way. Just convert the MP3 to MP4a using any of the
open source converters and then rename the files with a MP4b extension.
The iPod should then set a bookmark when you stop playing and start
again from the correct place. 

If it is just to differentiate between music and speech then tag the
genre as Audiobook

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Re: Debian emacs21: can't bind umlaut keys

[Sven Joachim]

Peter Daum writes:
> Now after migrating my systems from Suse to Debian (Etch), my key
> bindings don't work anymore and I can't figure out, what changed.
> 
> Here a minimal code snippet to illustrate the problem:
> 
> (defun latin1-to-emacs-char (char-code)
>   (make-char 'latin-iso8859-1 (- char-code 128)))
> (setq c_ae (latin1-to-emacs-char 228))
> (local-set-key (make-vector 1 c_ae) "ae")
> 
> This should bind the key labeled "ä" to instead insert "ae". technically,
> it still works on emacs 21.4 in Etch ((current-local-map) indicates the
> change) but the key still produces "ä".
> Some side notes:
> - Emacs is running in unibyte mode

Not really related to the problem, but why do you use unibyte mode?
It is very much deprecated, you will not be able to edit or view utf-8
encoded text.

> - The X server or the console driver (the problem is not X-related,
>   on the console it's the same) produce the expected key event:
> state 0x0, keycode 48 (keysym 0xe4, adiaeresis), same_screen YES,
> XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (e4) "ä"
> XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (e4) "ä"

FWIW, on a current Sid system I could not reproduce the problem under
X.  It does exist on the Linux console, though.

> After an extended investigation, I know now, that this problem must be
> caused by some debian-specific change to emacs. I installed several
> other emacsens on the same system (including a shiny new emacs 22.1
> compiled from the original source) and in all other installations, the
> code snippet above will redefine the "ä" key as expected.

I can confirm that it works in Emacs 22.

> Since I am planning to use Debian on lots of machines, I would strongly
> prefer if there was some workaround for the emacs21 debian package
> instead of using a self-made emacs on all machines.

A possible workaround would be to use the following:

(local-set-key [228] "ae") 

and similar for the other keys.  This seems to work in non-Unicode
terminals.

> Unfortunately, I can't figure out, which modification actually causes
> this and what to do about it. Any ideas?

No, except that I would recommend you to use Emacs 22 instead of Emacs
21.  There are packages at http://emacs.orebokech.com/ which are
fairly well integrated into Debian (I use these myself).

Cheers,

Sven


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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[ArcticFox]

On Jul 9, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Sam Leon wrote:




 Matthew K Poer wrote:On Monday 09 July 2007 3:14 pm, Sam Leon wrote:



Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Hi,

On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.

It *is* faster than iceweasel.

But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that
turns out to be a wash.

Hugo

I really want to use opera but I can't because it seems to force you 
to

use tabs >_<


Sam

Alright, although I cannot imagine why in the world you would not 
want tabs...


In Opera's menu bar, click under Tools and select Preferences. Click 
on the

Advanced tab. Near the bottom of the "Tabs" section there is a setting
called "Open windows instead of tabs." That's Opera 9.21, at least.



 Yes played with that.  It would open in a new window but if you 
clicked the home button on that new window it would go to a blank 
page.  The other thing that drove me up the wall with opera was the 
fact that I can't have more than one instance up.  I guess they just 
want you to use one page and fill it up with a whole bunch of tabs??


 Sam



Why are you so anti-tabs? I find tab browsing to be a lot faster and 
easier to switch between tabs then trying to open multiple 
windows/instances.

Re: Opera is faster, but...

[KS]

Octavio Alvarez wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:17:45 -0700, Orestes leal 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:05:11 -0400
Matthew K Poer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Monday 09 July 2007 1:06 pm, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.
>
> It *is* faster than iceweasel.
>
> But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that 
turns

> out to be a wash.
>
> Hugo

Are you *begging* for a flame war?

I have always thought that FireFox was faster than Opera. Did you use 
"safe

mode" (no extensions)?


What?
Seamonkey it's the fastest.


None faster than elinks. ;-)



IE6.0 :p


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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Sam Leon]

Matthew K Poer wrote:

On Monday 09 July 2007 3:14 pm, Sam Leon wrote:
  

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Hi,

On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.

It *is* faster than iceweasel.

But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that
turns out to be a wash.

Hugo
  

I really want to use opera but I can't because it seems to force you to
use tabs >_<


Sam



Alright, although I cannot imagine why in the world you would not want tabs...

In Opera's menu bar, click under Tools and select Preferences. Click on the 
Advanced tab. Near the bottom of the "Tabs" section there is a setting 
called "Open windows instead of tabs." That's Opera 9.21, at least.
  


Yes played with that.  It would open in a new window but if you clicked 
the home button on that new window it would go to a blank page.  The 
other thing that drove me up the wall with opera was the fact that I 
can't have more than one instance up.  I guess they just want you to use 
one page and fill it up with a whole bunch of tabs??


Sam

Re: [OT] google desktop on Debian

[Wayne Topa]

Matthew K Poer([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Monday 09 July 2007 10:17 am, Celejar wrote:
> > On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:35:34 -0400
> >
> > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Andrew J. Barr wrote:
> > > > Sorry if I'm ignorant but,
> > > >
> > > > How is this better/different than Beagle or any of the other
> > > > open-source data indexing projects out there?
> > >
> > > Actually I did not know that there are open source alternatives available
> > > for google-desktop-search. Only upon reading Matthew Poer's email, I came
> > > to know that there is such a thing called beagle. Anyway, I am trying it
> > > out now and hope it works. I also prefer open source alternatives to
> > > closed source software as long as they efficiently perform the job and
> > > provide all the features.
> >
> > I have briefly tried recoll, and I really like it so far, although I
> > haven't yet used it extensively (there's a debian package).  You can
> > also check out strigi.
> 
> Note the debian packages for recoll is in testing. There is no debian package 
> for strigi.

There is in testing

VT3 root-4-(TESTING):~# srch strigi
libstrigihtmlgui-dev - development files for Strigi Desktop Search
libstrigihtmlgui0 - library for writing html clients for Strigi Desktop Search
strigi-applet - KDE applet for Strigi Desktop Search
strigi-client - Qt4 client for Strigi Desktop Search
strigi-daemon - fast indexing and searching tool for your personal data (daemon)
strigi-plugins - plugins for Strigi Desktop Search

Wayne

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Re: [OT] google desktop on Debian

[Celejar]

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:17:16 -0400
Matthew K Poer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday 09 July 2007 10:17 am, Celejar wrote:
> > On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:35:34 -0400
> >
> > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Andrew J. Barr wrote:
> > > > Sorry if I'm ignorant but,
> > > >
> > > > How is this better/different than Beagle or any of the other
> > > > open-source data indexing projects out there?
> > >
> > > Actually I did not know that there are open source alternatives available
> > > for google-desktop-search. Only upon reading Matthew Poer's email, I came
> > > to know that there is such a thing called beagle. Anyway, I am trying it
> > > out now and hope it works. I also prefer open source alternatives to
> > > closed source software as long as they efficiently perform the job and
> > > provide all the features.
> >
> > I have briefly tried recoll, and I really like it so far, although I
> > haven't yet used it extensively (there's a debian package).  You can
> > also check out strigi.
> 
> Note the debian packages for recoll is in testing. There is no debian package 
> for strigi.

There are strigi packages in Sid.

> > > raju

> > > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi

> > Celejar

> Matthew K Poer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: USB-stick crashes (a KDE problem)

[Art Edwards]

Just a quick update:

This appears to be a KDE problem. I just mounted the USB stick 
successfully under gnome.


Art Edwards

Art Edwards wrote:
I just did a dist-upgrade (testing, amd64) and now the system will not 
read a usbstick.


I get the following error in kde, during automatic mount:

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1, missing 
codpage or other error

in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so

So,

chalcogenide/var/log>dmesg | tail
sdc: Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00
sdc: assuming drive cache: write through
SCSI device sdc: 8060927 512-byte hdwr sectors (4127 MB)
sdc: Write Protect is off
sdc: Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00
sdc: assuming drive cache: write through
sdc: sdc1
sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdc
usb-storage: device scan complete
FAT: Unrecognized mount option "flush" or missing value

This has happened for both of my USB sticks. I should point out that 
they are still read on an ubuntu laptop and they were read on Friday 
before the dist-upgrade.


I would appreciate any suggestions.

Art Edwards



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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Gregory Seidman]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 03:25:40PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
[...]
> We discuss this every now and then (I use privoxy), but is there any
> convenient way to easily add stuff that privoxy misses to its config
> files?  Also, the default Debian privoxy runs once as root; adblock can
> obviously be configured on a per-user basis.  Of course, I suppose one
> could run multiple privoxies, on different ports, for different
> users ...

I've never seen a good reason for per-user ad blocking. If it's an ad, I
want it blocked and I'm not clear on why anyone wouldn't. On the rare
occasions when there is a false positive, privoxy has a link right in its
block page for "go there anyway". If it's a false negative, it should be
added, of course.

As for adding stuff easily, I have an /etc/privoxy/adblock.action file
separate from any other action files (and referenced in /etc/privoxy/config).
It's very simple:

{+block }
.247realmedia.com
.2o7.net
.adbrite.com
.adbureau.net
[ 90 more lines ]
/(.*/)?adv/.*
/(.*/)?ads/
/(.*/)?adx/.*

When I run across a new ad server, I edit the file (sudoedit, actually,
though I don't think there is any reason it couldn't be user-owned) and add
another domain or pattern. I don't even have to restart privoxy, since it
is smart enough to reread changed config files.

> Celejar
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USB-stick crashes

[Art Edwards]

I just did a dist-upgrade (testing, amd64) and now the system will not 
read a usbstick.


I get the following error in kde, during automatic mount:

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1, missing 
codpage or other error

in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so

So,

chalcogenide/var/log>dmesg | tail
sdc: Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00
sdc: assuming drive cache: write through
SCSI device sdc: 8060927 512-byte hdwr sectors (4127 MB)
sdc: Write Protect is off
sdc: Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00
sdc: assuming drive cache: write through
sdc: sdc1
sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdc
usb-storage: device scan complete
FAT: Unrecognized mount option "flush" or missing value

This has happened for both of my USB sticks. I should point out that 
they are still read on an ubuntu laptop and they were read on Friday 
before the dist-upgrade.


I would appreciate any suggestions.

Art Edwards

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Re: kile

[Art Edwards]

This is a courtesy rejoinder:

Today kile installed without problem. Last time I think that texlive was 
not completely loaded into testing.


Art Edwards

Steve Langasek wrote:

On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 03:06:36PM -0600, Art Edwards wrote:
  

In testing, kile has been removed.



That doesn't appear to be the case.

  

It appears that texlive is undergoing a reorganization. As a result,
kile's dependencies are at odds with the new organization.



I don't see this in any version of kile in etch/lenny/sid.

  


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Re: tell ipod a recording is an 'audiobook'?

[David Brodbeck]

On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:22 PM, Matt Price wrote:

i'd like to convince the ipod that these tracks are not music
but audiobooks (whatever that really means).

does anyone know how to do this?  if it can be done from amarok that's
great, otherwise i can use whatever music player is required.


There's a Windows utility that does this, called "MP3 to iPod Audio  
Book Converter".  If anyone knows of a Linux app that does the same  
thing, I'd like to hear about it.





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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Celejar]

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:26:32 +0200
Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:06:35 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.
> >
> > It *is* faster than iceweasel.
> >
> > But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that turns out 
> > to be a wash.
> 
> Privoxy does a decent job of filtering ads, web bugs and other nasty
> things. I have the impression that it is not quite as efficient in
> blocking ads as the combination of adblock and filterset.G, but privoxy
> is certainly much better than nothing and it works with any browser. (It
> is just a PRIVacy enhancing prOXY that you can run locally on your
> desktop computer.)

We discuss this every now and then (I use privoxy), but is there any
convenient way to easily add stuff that privoxy misses to its config
files?  Also, the default Debian privoxy runs once as root; adblock can
obviously be configured on a per-user basis.  Of course, I suppose one
could run multiple privoxies, on different ports, for different
users ...

> Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
>   Florian   |

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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Celejar]

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:19:12 -0700
"Octavio Alvarez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:17:45 -0700, Orestes leal  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:05:11 -0400
> > Matthew K Poer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Monday 09 July 2007 1:06 pm, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.
> >> >
> >> > It *is* faster than iceweasel.
> >> >
> >> > But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that  
> >> turns
> >> > out to be a wash.
> >> >
> >> > Hugo
> >>
> >> Are you *begging* for a flame war?
> >>
> >> I have always thought that FireFox was faster than Opera. Did you use  
> >> "safe
> >> mode" (no extensions)?
> >
> > What?
> > Seamonkey it's the fastest.
> 
> None faster than elinks. ;-)

Is elinks faster than links and links2 (serious question, I don't have
any idea) ?

> Octavio.

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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Matthew K Poer]

On Monday 09 July 2007 3:14 pm, Sam Leon wrote:
> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.
> >
> > It *is* faster than iceweasel.
> >
> > But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that
> > turns out to be a wash.
> >
> > Hugo
>
> I really want to use opera but I can't because it seems to force you to
> use tabs >_<
>
>
> Sam

Alright, although I cannot imagine why in the world you would not want tabs...

In Opera's menu bar, click under Tools and select Preferences. Click on the 
Advanced tab. Near the bottom of the "Tabs" section there is a setting 
called "Open windows instead of tabs." That's Opera 9.21, at least.

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Re: localost versus mydomain

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On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:49:14 +0200
mess-mate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> i've troubles with my localhost.
> When i do a http://localhost/xxx
> 'requested url was not found' error.
> The server search for http://mydomain.com/xxx
> 
> I have a /var/www/mydomain.com
> and /var/www/xxx (with an alias to xxx)
> 
> mydomain.com is a enabled site in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled.
> Debian/etch
> 
> How can i get localhost as it normally must do ?
> 
> mess-mate   

Check your /etc/hosts! It should include a line like this:

127.0.0.1 localhost

and probably other names as well, separated by spaces or tabs.

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Re: [OT] google desktop on Debian

[Matthew K Poer]

On Monday 09 July 2007 10:17 am, Celejar wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:35:34 -0400
>
> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Andrew J. Barr wrote:
> > > Sorry if I'm ignorant but,
> > >
> > > How is this better/different than Beagle or any of the other
> > > open-source data indexing projects out there?
> >
> > Actually I did not know that there are open source alternatives available
> > for google-desktop-search. Only upon reading Matthew Poer's email, I came
> > to know that there is such a thing called beagle. Anyway, I am trying it
> > out now and hope it works. I also prefer open source alternatives to
> > closed source software as long as they efficiently perform the job and
> > provide all the features.
>
> I have briefly tried recoll, and I really like it so far, although I
> haven't yet used it extensively (there's a debian package).  You can
> also check out strigi.

Note the debian packages for recoll is in testing. There is no debian package 
for strigi.

>
> > raju
> >
> > --
> > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
>
> Celejar

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Subdomain

[Lucio Crusca]

Hello *,

I'm not sure this is on topic, however I don't know wherever else to ask. I
have my Debian Etch server on a static IP address running bind9 for my own
domain (sulweb.org, well bind9 it's not up & running yet, but let's assume
it were).
I'd like to create a subdomain (say dev.sulweb.org) and delegate name
resolution for that subdomain to another Etch DNS (say ns.dev.sulweb.org),
and this alone shouldn't be much of a problem:

$ORIGIN dev.sulweb.org.
@   IN  NS  ns.dev.sulweb.org.
ns  IN  A   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

Now the problem is that I'd like xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx to be a dynamic IP address,
so that ns.dev.sulweb.org updates it at sulweb.org in some way similar to
dyndns.com services.

Where should I start from?

Lucio.






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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Sam Leon]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.

It *is* faster than iceweasel.

But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that 
turns out to be a wash.


Hugo




I really want to use opera but I can't because it seems to force you to 
use tabs >_<



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Re: RTF - proprietary or open?

[Celejar]

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 15:35:24 -0400
Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]

> While I personally prefer OOo over MSO and try to encourage people to
> switch, it will be a long time yet before non-MS formats are considered
> "standard."

Which brings us back to my original point; why not RTF? It's apparently
a fairly open format, and apparently virtually all word processors can
read and write it.
 
> Regards,
> 
> -Roberto
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Re: aptitude wants to remove these. Do I need them?

[Celejar]

On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:01:42 +0530
arijit sarkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 14:07 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> >  cut - 
> > 
> > My rule of thumb for this kind of questions is that "if the package's name
> > does not ring a bell, you dont need it". The beauty of Debian is that,
> > installing it at a later time (if you find that necessary) is a breeze. It
> > might not be the case if you are running sid though! But if you are running
> > sid, I assume you know what you are doing...
> 
> 
> My rule of thumb:
> 1. install 'deborphan' package.
> 2. run it.
> 3. you can safely remove the packages listed by deborphan.
> 
> It never let me down.

I'm not sure deborphan would work as well for a programmer who installs
development libraries as it does for a non-programmer.  IIUC, deborphan
(in its default operation) assumes that all libraries that don't have
any dependencies can be removed, but a programmer may have installed
them intentionally.  [The OP mentioned that he's a programmer doing
development.]

> Arijit Sarkar
> Kolkata, India

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Re: [OT] google desktop on Debian

[Celejar]

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:35:34 -0400
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Andrew J. Barr wrote:
> 
> > Sorry if I'm ignorant but,
> > 
> > How is this better/different than Beagle or any of the other
> > open-source data indexing projects out there?
> > 
> 
> Actually I did not know that there are open source alternatives available
> for google-desktop-search. Only upon reading Matthew Poer's email, I came
> to know that there is such a thing called beagle. Anyway, I am trying it
> out now and hope it works. I also prefer open source alternatives to closed
> source software as long as they efficiently perform the job and provide all
> the features.

I have briefly tried recoll, and I really like it so far, although I
haven't yet used it extensively (there's a debian package).  You can
also check out strigi. 

> raju
> 
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Re: Installing a JRE plug-in

[Celejar]

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 00:59:02 -0400
Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snipped discussion about the need for client side Java]

> The funny thing is that there are times when it is nice.  For example,
> some companies have very restrictive policies about downloading
> executables.  Specifically, I once needed something to help me do some
> quick Karnaugh maps.  I found a neat little binary freeware thingy out
> there that was very simple.  Of course, it was against policy at the
> place I was at to download and run it.  However, I kept searching until
> I found a site that a Java applet that did the same thing.  That time it
> was OK, since I was not downloading and executing the program (the
> browser was).  I guess that many corporate IT types don't see what a
> gaping hole that is, but it is sufficient to get around a lot of brain
> damage.

I've found a similar use for client side Java on public access
terminals that restrict software downloads but may allow Java.  For
example, many of the solutions for doing ssh from a web browser involve
a client side Java applet.  [Yes, I know that ssh from a public
terminal is inherently and unfixably insecure.]

[snip]

> However, on the whole, you are right that most times it is just done
> wrong. Much like flash.

AOL!
 
> Regards,
> 
> -Roberto

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Re: [OT] A significant negative impact on Linux's popularity?

[David Brodbeck]

On Jul 8, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
I disagree.  The way some people drive, perhaps it should be just  
to help
weed out those who really have no business on the road with  
anything more
powerful than a bicycle to begin with.  Sometimes, the learning  
curve is

not only a good thing, but should be made mandatory.


I'd be with you if I'd ever seen any reason to believe that  
mechanical ability is correlated with being a good driver.  Some of  
the craziest drivers I've known have been mechanics or tuner type  
folks.  They tend to be interested in what they *can* get the car to  
do, not what they *should* be doing with it.




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Re: need good file explorer

[Pol Hallen]

I am looking for a Debian package which will provide nice
functionality equivalent to the MS Windows (file) Explorer (not
Internet Explorer!) which lets you quickly view all directories and
files on your filesystem in a tree structure and allows quickly
moving/renaming/deleting files using the mouse. I have not found
anything in comparable functionality and speed. I tried Konqueror but
it was massively bloated (installed lots of big KDE libs) and the
response time seems much worse than MS Windows file explorer program.
I need something lightweight and fast. Hope someone knows of any such
program(s). I run Debian testing but if something is not packaged I
can always compile and install in /usr/local.

Try kommander

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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 01:32:04PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 10:19:12AM -0700, Octavio Alvarez wrote:
> > On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:17:45 -0700, Orestes leal  
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > >On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:05:11 -0400
> > >Matthew K Poer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>On Monday 09 July 2007 1:06 pm, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.
> > >>>
> > >>> It *is* faster than iceweasel.
> > >>>
> > >>> But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that  
> > >>turns
> > >>> out to be a wash.
> > >>>
> > >>> Hugo
> > >>
> > >>Are you *begging* for a flame war?
> > >>
> > >>I have always thought that FireFox was faster than Opera. Did you use  
> > >>"safe
> > >>mode" (no extensions)?
> > >
> > >What?
> > >Seamonkey it's the fastest.
> > 
> > None faster than elinks. ;-)
> > 
> Hah.  I *real* geek could mentally render the raw HTML faster.

what is the browser thing of which you speak? there is something other
than 

telnet www.google.com 80

??

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Re: synchronize sendemail / cyrus / ftp / ssh password

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 01:44:31PM -0400, Matthew K Poer wrote:
> On Monday 09 July 2007 1:27 pm, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 03:10:18PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > > Am 2007-06-23 23:13:57, schrieb Till Wimmer:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > i'm running a server for several customers using cyrus/IMAP, sendmail,
> > > > apache2 and ssh.
> > >
> > > All four can authenticate against PAM!
> > >
> > > ...and since PAM can use MySQL...
> >
> > I wouldn't use MySQL.  LDAP is much better.
> 
> Why? Is it faster? Easier? What? 
> (I am setting this sort of thing up in the near future).
> 
Without getting into the reasons why MySQL specifically sucks, a
directory is generally more suited to something like that than a
database.  With LDAP, you can split your directory if necessary and have
a forest of servers.  So, if you have a company with three branch
offices, you can have each branch office serve a directory of its
"local" users and then have a master LDAP server which knows which
subordinate servers are out there.

Additionally, replication using slurpd is very nice.  I know that MySQL
and PostgreSQL both support replication, however the real advantage that
LDAP gives is that it is specifically optimized for few writes and
*many* reads (which is what an authentication store will need to do).

Regards,

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Non-free repo on DVD!

[José Santos]

I'm trying to make a DVD with the non-free etch repository because i
don't have internet on my old toshiba laptop.
So i found this scrip on the web:
-
#!/bin/bash

SERVER=http://ftp.debian.org

PATH1=debian/dists/etch/non-free/main/binary-i386
PATH2=debian/dists/etch

wget -force-directories --no-host-directories \
${SERVER}/${PATH1}/Packages \
${SERVER}/${PATH1}/Packages.gz \
${SERVER}/${PATH1}/Packages.bz2 \
${SERVER}/${PATH1}/Release
${SERVER}/${PATH2}/ChangeLog
${SERVER}/${PATH2}/Contents-i386.gz
${SERVER}/${PATH2}/Release
${SERVER}/${PATH2}/Release.gpg

gunzip <${PATH1}/Packages.gz |grep '^Filename: ' |\
sed "%/^Filename: %${SERVER}/debian/%" >Download.list

wget --force-directories --no-host-directories \
 --input-file Download.list
---
but it just doesn't work, i gives me this output:

wget: invalid option -- f
Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]...

Try `wget --help' for more options.
/home/un1xer/bin/debnf.sh: line 13:
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/ChangeLog: No such file or directory
/home/un1xer/bin/debnf.sh: line 14:
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/Contents-i386.gz: No such file
or directory
/home/un1xer/bin/debnf.sh: line 15:
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/Release: No such file or directory
/home/un1xer/bin/debnf.sh: line 16:
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/Release.gpg: No such file or
directory
/home/un1xer/bin/debnf.sh: line 18:
debian/dists/etch/non-free/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or
directory
sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `%'
No URLs found in Download.list.

My scripting ability's are not very good, could i ask if someone can
figure whats wrong with it?

Thank you!

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Re: Help buying Economic Printer

[KS]

ispmarin wrote:

Hello all at Debian User.

I am looking for a printer with very low per page cost (catridges,
tonners etc) and not very expensive to buy. I dont care if it is laser
or deskjet. Performance is not a issue (it can be slow), and the
quality of the page dont need to be high (I will print mainly texts
and code, and very occasionally a graph), and can be black and white.
Does anybody has some suggestions?

Thank you!




my response remains the same as the one on buntu forums. Try Brother 
laser printers e.g. HL2040 or HL2070n for networking features.



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localost versus mydomain

[mess-mate]

Hi,
i've troubles with my localhost.
When i do a http://localhost/xxx
'requested url was not found' error.
The server search for http://mydomain.com/xxx

I have a /var/www/mydomain.com
and /var/www/xxx (with an alias to xxx)

mydomain.com is a enabled site in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled.
Debian/etch

How can i get localhost as it normally must do ?

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Re: Madwifi drivers on floppy, howto.

[José Santos]

Matthew K Poer wrote:
> On Saturday 07 July 2007 3:27 pm, J. Santos wrote:
>> Hi everyone.
>>
>> How do i create a floppy with the madwifi driver so ecth can recognize
>> my atheros based  wifi card at install time?
>> I have been googleing but cant find anything relevant.
>>
>> Thank you.
> 
> Well, it looks like you would need to download the deb file packages for 
> madwifi-source[0] and madwifi-tools[1].
> 
> Then there is this article on installing MadWifi the Debian way[2].
> 
> Unfortunantly, the madwifi-source package is 3421 KBytes. This means it will 
> not fit on a floppy. A usb storage device or CD-ROM would work, though. 
> 
> [0] http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/madwifi-source
> [1] http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/madwifi-tools
> [2] http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian/MadWifi
> 
> I hope that helps!
> 
 Thank you, it did help.
 I managed to build the modules and the wifi card is up and running (not
at install time but after i installed a minimal system)
Thank you for your time.

Regards

José Santos



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Re: RAID5 on S5000PSL ServerBoard

[Mike Bird]

On Monday 09 July 2007 10:47, Roland Carlin wrote:
> I would like to install Debian on a Intel S5000PSL device with the RAID
> config described below.
> I cannot find any pilot for the RAID system.
>
> Could anyone help me with this ?

Do you really want to use hardware RAID?  Note that if your hardware RAID
controller dies, you're going to need a compatible replacement or you'll
lose all of your data.  If your hardware RAID controller is on your
motherboard, then any motherboard failure loses all your data unless you
can find a compatible replacement motherboard.  Hardware RAID often makes
data less secure, not more secure.

In most cases, software RAID is much more reliable and, with the exception
of resyncs, just as fast.

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Re: Help buying Economic Printer

[Ron Johnson]

On 07/09/07 12:59, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 05:36:09PM -, ispmarin wrote:

Hello all at Debian User.

I am looking for a printer with very low per page cost (catridges,
tonners etc) and not very expensive to buy. I dont care if it is laser
or deskjet. Performance is not a issue (it can be slow), and the
quality of the page dont need to be high (I will print mainly texts
and code, and very occasionally a graph), and can be black and white.
Does anybody has some suggestions?


If you are located in the US, then go to Newegg and search for CLP.
That should get you a list of all the Samsung Color Laser printers.  For
home/small office use, I'm not sure you can find a better printer for
the price.

I have the CLP-550N, which is no longer made.  But the other models are
more or less comparable (except that it appears they no longer produce a
model with a built in duplexer).


The Dell 3100cn (or it's successor) color laser printer works great 
with CUPS.  It's cheap, but *big*.


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Re: Help buying Economic Printer

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 05:36:09PM -, ispmarin wrote:
> Hello all at Debian User.
> 
> I am looking for a printer with very low per page cost (catridges,
> tonners etc) and not very expensive to buy. I dont care if it is laser
> or deskjet. Performance is not a issue (it can be slow), and the
> quality of the page dont need to be high (I will print mainly texts
> and code, and very occasionally a graph), and can be black and white.
> Does anybody has some suggestions?
> 
If you are located in the US, then go to Newegg and search for CLP.
That should get you a list of all the Samsung Color Laser printers.  For
home/small office use, I'm not sure you can find a better printer for
the price.

I have the CLP-550N, which is no longer made.  But the other models are
more or less comparable (except that it appears they no longer produce a
model with a built in duplexer).

Regards,

-Roberto

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Help buying Economic Printer

[ispmarin]

Hello all at Debian User.

I am looking for a printer with very low per page cost (catridges,
tonners etc) and not very expensive to buy. I dont care if it is laser
or deskjet. Performance is not a issue (it can be slow), and the
quality of the page dont need to be high (I will print mainly texts
and code, and very occasionally a graph), and can be black and white.
Does anybody has some suggestions?

Thank you!


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GIMP and gimp-print/gutenprint problem

[Mark Copper]

Hi,

When I updated an old testing to new stable I lost the ability to print
from GIMP.  I no longer get a "print" option in the file menu of GIMP.

I now have both packages gimp (2.2.13-1) and gimp-print (5.0.0-3)
installed.

Can anyone make repair or diagnostice suggestions?

Thanks.

Mark


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RAID5 on S5000PSL ServerBoard

[Roland Carlin]

Hi All,

I would like to install Debian on a Intel S5000PSL device with the RAID 
config described below.

I cannot find any pilot for the RAID system.

Could anyone help me with this ?

Thanks&Regards

Roland Carlin


Motherboard details:

On-Board Devices
Chipset Intel® 5000P Server Chipset
SATAIntel® 6321 ESB I/O Controller
  Controller  Intel
  Number of Drives6
  Number of Ports 6
  RAID SupportRAID 0, 1, 10 with optional
  AXXRAKSW5 for RAID 5*
IDE Yes
  Number of IDE Devices Supported 2
  IDE Modes Supported ATAPI
Network Adaptor Yes
  Controller  Intel® 82563EB Network Connection
  Speeds  10/100/1000 Mbps
  Number of Ports 2
GraphicsYes (ATI ES1000)
Super I/O   National Semiconductor PC87427


LSPCI results:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000P Chipset Memory Controller
Hub (rev 92)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x8
Port 2-3 (rev 92)
00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4
Port 3 (rev 92)
00:04.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x8
Port 4-5 (rev 92)
00:05.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4
Port 5 (rev 92)
00:06.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x8
Port 6-7 (rev 92)
00:07.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4
Port 7 (rev 92)
00:08.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset DMA
Engine (rev 92)
00:10.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset Error
Reporting Registers (rev 92)
00:10.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset Error
Reporting Registers (rev 92)
00:10.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset Error
Reporting Registers (rev 92)
00:11.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset Reserved
Registers (rev 92)
00:13.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset Reserved
Registers (rev 92)
00:15.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset FBD Registers
(rev 92)
00:16.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset FBD Registers
(rev 92)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset PCI
Express Root Port 1 (rev 09)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset
UHCI USB Controller #1 (rev 09)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset
UHCI USB Controller #2 (rev 09)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset
UHCI USB Controller #3 (rev 09)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset
UHCI USB Controller #4 (rev 09)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset
EHCI USB2 Controller (rev 09)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d9)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset LPC
Interface Controller (rev 09)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB IDE Controller
(rev 09)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset
SATA Storage Controller IDE (rev 09)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset SMBus
Controller (rev 09)
01:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express
Upstream Port (rev 01)
01:00.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express to
PCI-X Bridge (rev 01)
02:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express
Downstream Port E1 (rev 01)
02:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express
Downstream Port E2 (rev 01)
02:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express
Downstream Port E3 (rev 01)
*04:00.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic Unknown
device 0057 (rev 02)*
05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB DPT LAN
Controller Copper (rev 01)
05:00.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB DPT LAN
Controller Copper (rev 01)
0d:0c.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ES1000 (rev 02)





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Re: synchronize sendemail / cyrus / ftp / ssh password

[Matthew K Poer]

On Monday 09 July 2007 1:27 pm, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 03:10:18PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > Am 2007-06-23 23:13:57, schrieb Till Wimmer:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > i'm running a server for several customers using cyrus/IMAP, sendmail,
> > > apache2 and ssh.
> >
> > All four can authenticate against PAM!
> >
> > ...and since PAM can use MySQL...
>
> I wouldn't use MySQL.  LDAP is much better.

Why? Is it faster? Easier? What? 
(I am setting this sort of thing up in the near future).

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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Florian Kulzer]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 12:06:35 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.
>
> It *is* faster than iceweasel.
>
> But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that turns out 
> to be a wash.

Privoxy does a decent job of filtering ads, web bugs and other nasty
things. I have the impression that it is not quite as efficient in
blocking ads as the combination of adblock and filterset.G, but privoxy
is certainly much better than nothing and it works with any browser. (It
is just a PRIVacy enhancing prOXY that you can run locally on your
desktop computer.)

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Geoff,

Thanks for the info.  I switched to another Intel-based motherboard and another 
CF card reader (due to other VIA-related hard-lockup problems) and am now using 
an IDE CF-card reader with a Seagate Microdrive which is built-into the board.  
I'm running Debian Etch (4.0) on that server.

The Microdrive seems to support DMA, but after a few days of uptime, one of the 
DMA timers fails and the drive resets itself and resets as read-only:



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Re: [OT] gob.mx = IE6 only!

[Florian Kulzer]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 09:03:28 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:

[...]

> I tried iceweasel 2.0.0.1+dfsg-2 ( I am behind in my Sid upgrade...) and 
> user agent string "IE 6.0 WinXP".
>
> However, non functionality of buttons only showed up *after* filling out of 
> all the fields correctly. (The reason I mentioned the CURP and RFC fields)
>
> Before that the appropriate dialogs kept appearing. Only after completing 
> the form did the buttons do nothing in iceweasel and konqueror.

OK, then I had misunderstood your earlier email. I assumed you had
trouble right from the beginning and I thought that I had found a way
around that.

BTW, regarding your other recent message in this thread: I was not the
one who suggested to try Opera, Octavio Alvarez came up with this idea.

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Tolles Angebot!

[xbreeze . de]

!!!KEIN SPAM!!!


Hallo,

Man hört viel über Gratis Handys usw., aber bei dieser Adresse funktioniert es 
wirklich und es kostet Dich gerade mal 9,95Euro! Ich will niemanden etwas 
andrehen! Bei mir hat es funktioniert und ich bin jetzt schon an meinem zweiten 
Handy dran! :-) Also mach mit - es lohnt sich wirklich!

http://handys.freetoy.de/?cid=10954

Mit freundlichen Grüßen


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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 10:19:12AM -0700, Octavio Alvarez wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:17:45 -0700, Orestes leal  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:05:11 -0400
> >Matthew K Poer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>On Monday 09 July 2007 1:06 pm, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.
> >>>
> >>> It *is* faster than iceweasel.
> >>>
> >>> But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that  
> >>turns
> >>> out to be a wash.
> >>>
> >>> Hugo
> >>
> >>Are you *begging* for a flame war?
> >>
> >>I have always thought that FireFox was faster than Opera. Did you use  
> >>"safe
> >>mode" (no extensions)?
> >
> >What?
> >Seamonkey it's the fastest.
> 
> None faster than elinks. ;-)
> 
Hah.  I *real* geek could mentally render the raw HTML faster.

:-)

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: RTF - proprietary or open?

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 01:33:07PM -0300, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote:
> 
> The Sun ODF Plug in for Microsoft Office gives users of Microsoft Word,
> Excel and Powerpoint the ability to read, edit and save to the
> ISO-standard Open Document Format. The ODF Plug in is available as a
> free download from the Sun Download Center (SDLC). Download the ODF Plug in.
> 
This is probably a good first step and good for home users and small
businesses.  However, in big enterprises there will likely be some
resistance.  I hope that it finds quick universal adoption.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: synchronize sendemail / cyrus / ftp / ssh password

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 03:10:18PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2007-06-23 23:13:57, schrieb Till Wimmer:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > i'm running a server for several customers using cyrus/IMAP, sendmail,
> > apache2 and ssh.
> 
> All four can authenticate against PAM!
> 
> ...and since PAM can use MySQL...
> 
I wouldn't use MySQL.  LDAP is much better.

Regards,

-Roberto

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interrupt question

[ann kok]

Hi all

I need to disable auto interrupt and manually assign
IRQ

Does debian etch have this kernel to install?
or how can I disable auto interrupt (irqbalance)?

Thank you


 

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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Octavio Alvarez]

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:17:45 -0700, Orestes leal  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:05:11 -0400
Matthew K Poer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Monday 09 July 2007 1:06 pm, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.
>
> It *is* faster than iceweasel.
>
> But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that  
turns

> out to be a wash.
>
> Hugo

Are you *begging* for a flame war?

I have always thought that FireFox was faster than Opera. Did you use  
"safe

mode" (no extensions)?


What?
Seamonkey it's the fastest.


None faster than elinks. ;-)

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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Orestes leal]

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:05:11 -0400
Matthew K Poer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday 09 July 2007 1:06 pm, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.
> >
> > It *is* faster than iceweasel.
> >
> > But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that turns
> > out to be a wash.
> >
> > Hugo
> 
> Are you *begging* for a flame war?
> 
> I have always thought that FireFox was faster than Opera. Did you use "safe 
> mode" (no extensions)?

What?
Seamonkey it's the fastest.

Best,
Orestes.


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Re: Inet security

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 11:05:26AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote in Article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
> gmane.linux.debian.user:
> 
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 11:08:39PM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> >> I saw this on usenet and wonder about the validity of this statement.
> >> 
> >> 'Seriously any system is as secure as the services you export, if you
> >> have nothing listening that can do you harm you are secure...'
> >> 
> >> Disregarding email exploits and exploits through your browser is this
> >> true? Assume the hardware is inviolate.
> >> Thoughts?
> > 
> > a port with a listening service is like a locked door with a doorman
> > inside waiting to open it for whoever knocks. If they know the
> > codeword he'll open it for them.
> 
> That's how port-knocking[1] works.

you dropped the [1], but I'll google it.

> 
> > So the service (as the doorman) determines how serious the security risk 
> > is at the port (door). 
> 
> Well, in theory, yes.  The problem with this formula is that some services
> are promiscuous and don't care who they serve to (http, finger, gopher,
> etc).

indeed.

> 
> > If there is no service listening at the port, then there is no way to open 
> > that port.  
> 
> Outbound connections require ports, too!

yeah.

> 
> > Of course, since you are running Debian, there are no windows for
> > things to climb through and open the door from the inside. ;)
   ^^
---^^

> 
> Don't say things like that.  What you just said there is like a Windows user
> saying, "Why should I stay patched and run antivirus software?  It's not
> like I use this computer for anything serious..."

except that it was a joke, and i so indicated. And I haven't drunk the
kool-aid, or at least I've pissed it out by now, so i understand that
I am only learning, and that's the best i can hope for. And its not as
you describe it. What you describe is a completely irresponsible
computer user who should not be allowed to use a computer because of
the damage they are causing to others through their neglect. Whereas,
what I said was that, ignoring the joke aspect, by running an
inherently more secure system, the user is in a better position than
if they were running windows. Granted, it was probably a little
sophomoric, and in the right forum would be considered inflammatory,
but it was certainly not more than what it was, a joke amongst
generally like-minded folks.

A


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Re: Opera is faster, but...

[Matthew K Poer]

On Monday 09 July 2007 1:06 pm, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.
>
> It *is* faster than iceweasel.
>
> But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that turns
> out to be a wash.
>
> Hugo

Are you *begging* for a flame war?

I have always thought that FireFox was faster than Opera. Did you use "safe 
mode" (no extensions)?

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Opera is faster, but...

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi,

On an unrelated matter I installed Opera on Sid.

It *is* faster than iceweasel.

But because it hasn't got the ease of the adblock extension, that turns 
out to be a wash.


Hugo


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Re: RTF - proprietary or open?

[Cassiano Bertol Leal]

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Roberto C. Sánchez escreveu:
> On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 11:10:57AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in Article
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
>> gmane.linux.debian.user:
>>
>>> That depends on your definition of "available."  If the person receiving
>>> your document is on dialup and not in a position to download the 100+ MB
>>> OOo or is otherwise not sufficiently proficient to install software,
>>> then you are basically left with "default" windows tools, which are
>>> wordpad, and occasionally works or word.
>> True, but wouldn't not having any proper office suite, on dialup, running
>> Windows make about as much sense for business as switching to MacOS for the
>> games?  Is that a large enough edge case for anybody to bother worrying
>> about?
>>
> I wasn't thinking so much of the business users themselves, but rather
> their customers.  In any case, you bring up a good point.  Of course, I
> have also worked places where any "unapproved" software was strictly
> verbotten.  Getting software approved at one of these places would
> require a presidential executive order, act of congress, plantery
> alignment and a lunar eclipse all in the same day.  Even then the
> "security" folks might still not sign off.
> 
> While I personally prefer OOo over MSO and try to encourage people to
> switch, it will be a long time yet before non-MS formats are considered
> "standard."
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Roberto
> 

This mught be a first step towards standardization:

Sun ODF Plug in 1.0 for Microsoft Office Available Now as a Free Download

Microsoft Office users can now import and export to Open Document Format
(ODF).

The Sun ODF Plug in for Microsoft Office gives users of Microsoft Word,
Excel and Powerpoint the ability to read, edit and save to the
ISO-standard Open Document Format. The ODF Plug in is available as a
free download from the Sun Download Center (SDLC). Download the ODF Plug in.

The Plug in is easy to setup and use, the conversion happens
transparently and the additional memory footprint is minimal. Microsoft
Office users now can have seamless two-way conversion of Microsoft
Office documents to and from Open Document. The ODF Plug in runs on
Microsoft Windows and is available in English. More language support
will be available in later releases.

The plug-in allows Microsoft Office (for Windows) users to open ODF
files and save their work in ODF formats used by OpenOffice, StarOffice,
and other programs. According to the ReadMe, the plug-in adds "ODF Text
Document (*.odt)" as a format to Word's Open and Save dialogs and adds
Import and Export options to Excel and PowerPoint."

http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=8&PartDetailId=ODF-WIN-G-F&TransactionId=noreg


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Re: How do I check if my Router is damaged?

[steef]

Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 04:23:16PM +, steef wrote:
 
  
please explain to me: how can that happen: frying a motherboard with a 
defect modem? getting a little bit worried.




<.>
Good luck,

Doug.


  

joe, justin and douglas:

thank you all for your answers.

i shall read them tonight meticulously.

thanks again,

steef


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Re: Any ksh Raw binaries Out there that work for linux i386?

[Josh Hurst]

On 6/27/07, Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:54:55 -0500
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ore writes:
> > I know that it's in the repository but I need the raw binary for 386.
>
> I don´t understand what you mean by ¨raw binary¨.  What´s wrong with the
> binary in the ksh package?
> --
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Well, I don't speak english to good, I meant a Ksh Binary that works in every 
linux distro,
hope that makes clear the point.

Best,
Orestes


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Debian you should use the Debian package at
http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/ksh.html and for Opensuse the Opensuse
rpm

Josh

Re: mutt folder browser broken?

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 05:51:37PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:

[mutt maildir message count problems]

> 
> It seems to go back at least to version 1.5.13-1.1, see bug #428734.
> 
> The maildir-mtime patch (mentioned in the bug report as the cause of the
> problem) was reactivated for version 1.5.10-1 according to the Debian
> changelog.

huh. I must have missed an upgrade in there. Well, looks like there's
no action from the dev yet. Guess I'll wait it out. thank again Flo

A

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Re: Ati Drivers, Xorg 7.2, Missing libfglrxdrm.a

[Orestes leal]

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:19:13 +0200
Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Orestes leal wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 08:19:55 -0400
> > Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> Hi folks, good day!
> >> 
> >> Yesterday I've downloaded the latest drivers from ATI
> >> (ati-driver-installer-8.37.6-x86.x86_64.run) for Xorg7.1
> >> (I have Xorg 7.2) and greater,
> >> but after install it sucessfully and change my xorg.conf to use my new
> >> fglrx driver something freeze me, checking the log I found that the
> >> fglrx driver do it's job very well, everything looks fine but in one
> >> point Xorg output this message and no X session it's started.
> >> 
> >> "libfglrxdrm.a not found", no module or something like that,
> >> I have a libfglrxdrm.so but no a .a library (static library?)
> >> I search all my hard drive and realize that this file won't exists,
> >> any help on this topic will be thankfully apreciated.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> NOTE: the aticonfig --initial and such configurations were the worst
> >> case escenario for me, none of such metods works, I have an ATI RADEON
> >> 200 series onboard with 64 megs and 64 shared from phisical mem (128 in
> >> total), anyway, any help?, thanks.
> >> 
> >> NOTE2: Any of you can send me this library? for put in the rightplace
> >> and test if this mess works.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Orestes.
> >> 
> > 
> > Ups, I reply to myself, I checked and the latest it's 8.38.6 yihaa
> > voy pa alla!!
> > 
> > Best,
> > Orestes.
> Hi Orestes,

Hi Jonathan,

> I hope your fglrx driver is working. You say you have an ATI Radeon 200
> series, I've never heard of that do you mean 9200? If so, I don't think the
> latest ATI driver supports that card.

Well, I use to be have this card working int Xorg6.9 and with video
accel, playing games on emulators like the n64 emulator and so on,
this card it's based in the x300 series, it's listed in the ATI driver
download page when selected the kind of OS and card (this card it's
integrated into the mainboard)

> Does "voy pa alla" mean "I'm going over there?" (just curious).

Yeah!! your spanish it's getting better!! ;), "voy pa alla" it's the
same like "Enseguida lo busco" :).

> Cheers,
> Jonathan
Best Regards,
Orestes.



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Re: [OT] gob.mx = IE6 only!

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 07:33:46AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 
When you hit any of the buttons in iceweasel, seamonkey or konqueror 
nothing happens! Neither with user-agent switcher!


So I tried it with qemu and XP with IE6, works right away!



What happens if you change the identity setting of konqueror so that it
says that it is IE running on MS?

Doug.




No change: hitting the buttons does nothing.

But something funny:

Florian suggested Opera so I dnldd. the sid deb from their site and 
installed it:


works without a hitch! Except you can never get in by giving your 
password: you have to ask them to resupply a new one and change that and 
it works. But that's the way it is in XP.


what gives?

Hugo


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Re: Ati Drivers, Xorg 7.2, Missing libfglrxdrm.a

[Jonathan Kaye]

Orestes leal wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 08:19:55 -0400
> Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi folks, good day!
>> 
>> Yesterday I've downloaded the latest drivers from ATI
>> (ati-driver-installer-8.37.6-x86.x86_64.run) for Xorg7.1
>> (I have Xorg 7.2) and greater,
>> but after install it sucessfully and change my xorg.conf to use my new
>> fglrx driver something freeze me, checking the log I found that the
>> fglrx driver do it's job very well, everything looks fine but in one
>> point Xorg output this message and no X session it's started.
>> 
>> "libfglrxdrm.a not found", no module or something like that,
>> I have a libfglrxdrm.so but no a .a library (static library?)
>> I search all my hard drive and realize that this file won't exists,
>> any help on this topic will be thankfully apreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> NOTE: the aticonfig --initial and such configurations were the worst
>> case escenario for me, none of such metods works, I have an ATI RADEON
>> 200 series onboard with 64 megs and 64 shared from phisical mem (128 in
>> total), anyway, any help?, thanks.
>> 
>> NOTE2: Any of you can send me this library? for put in the rightplace
>> and test if this mess works.
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Orestes.
>> 
> 
> Ups, I reply to myself, I checked and the latest it's 8.38.6 yihaa
> voy pa alla!!
> 
> Best,
> Orestes.
Hi Orestes,
I hope your fglrx driver is working. You say you have an ATI Radeon 200
series, I've never heard of that do you mean 9200? If so, I don't think the
latest ATI driver supports that card.
Does "voy pa alla" mean "I'm going over there?" (just curious).
Cheers,
Jonathan
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Re: [OT] gob.mx = IE6 only!

[Douglas Allan Tutty]

On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 07:33:46AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 
> When you hit any of the buttons in iceweasel, seamonkey or konqueror 
> nothing happens! Neither with user-agent switcher!
> 
> So I tried it with qemu and XP with IE6, works right away!
> 

What happens if you change the identity setting of konqueror so that it
says that it is IE running on MS?

Doug.


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