Cannot read DVD

2007-10-11 Thread Dimitrios Eftaxiopoulos
I use Debian Lenny, on an i386 laptop. I try to mount a dvd and I get 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdc -t iso9660 /media/cdrom0
mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
   missing codepage or helper program, or other error
   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
   dmesg | tail  or so

Then 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dmesg | tail
[drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map
[drm] Loading R200 Microcode
[drm] writeback test succeeded in 2 usecs
NET: Registered protocol family 10
lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
UDF-fs: No fileset found
Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
UDF-fs: No fileset found
Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
Unable to identify CD-ROM format.

When I check the disk

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo cdck -d /dev/hdc
Reading sectors 1-258656
258656 ok

CD overall:
   Sectors total: 258656:
   Good sectors: 258656:
   Bad sectors (incl. with poor timing): 0
CD timings:
   Minimal = 3 usec (0.03s)
   Maximal = 73951 usec (0.073951s)
   Average = 756 usec (0.000756s)

Conclusion:
   Excellent disc!

In the same computer (dual boot) I can read the DVD under Windows.

Any help welcomed.

Dimitris


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Re: debian kernel bugs / or is it grub?

2007-10-11 Thread Richard

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:


> I find it hard to understand how ubuntu can boot when debian
> can't. I'm willing to be that if you end up reinstalling debian again,
> it just works. shrug.
>
> A

Back in Ubuntu again after another unsuccessful install-round with 
Debian. Tried again, a little sooner as expected. Seems i like Debian 
and really want it back on my system. What i tried is:



daily netinstall and use lilo instead of grub ...
crash while loading the kernel an dropped in an initramfs prompt. Again 
with the ide-0 and ide-1 are busy messages. A lot more text.


LILO 22.8 Loading 
Linux.


BIOS data check successful
Uncompressing Linux...  OK, booting the kernel.
PCI:BIOS BUG: MCFG area at f000 is not E820-reserved
PCI: Not using MMCONFIG
PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for :01:00.0
Loading , please wait
ide0: I/O resource 0x3F6-0x3F6 not free.
ide0: ports already in use, skipping probe
ide1: I/O resource 0x376-0x376 not free.
ide1: ports already in use, skipping probe
mount: Mounting /dev/root on /root failed: No such device
mount: Mounting /root/dev/ on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or 
directory

mount: Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory
mount: Mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such file or directory
Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init

BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-5) Built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
(initramfs)

When i try to install Debian my two ATA hard disks are recognized as 
/dev/sdf and /dev/sdg. When i use lilo udev makes only /dev/sda /dev/sdb 
and /dev/sdc block-devices. Next time i will try to install Debian i 
will try to use.

append="idebus=66 pci=routeirq libata.atapi_enabled=1 all-generic-ide"

--
etch install ...
no ATA disk found.
--
etch install generic.all_generic_ide=1

some kind of kernel OOPS when loading the installer; at least it looks a 
lot like that, did not continue. Seems every device is recognized as ATA 
device; also my SATA DVD writer and SATA hard disk. Here is the dmesg 
output which i could catch:


Probing IDE interface ide0...
usb 7-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
hda: ST3250820AS, ATA DISK drive
usb 7-5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.
usb-storage: device found at 2
usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Probing IDE interface ide1...
Unknown: IDE controller at PCI slot :00:1f.5
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:1f.5[A] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 193
Unknown: chipset revision 2
Unknown: 100% native mode on irq 193
ide2: BM-DMA at 0x30f0-0x30f7, BIOS settings: hde:DMA, hdf:pio
ide3: BM-DMA at 0x30f8-0x30ff, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio
Probing IDE interface ide2...
hde: LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide2 at 0x3428-0x342f,0x3446 on irq 193
Probing IDE interface ide3...
Unknown: IDE controller at PCI slot :03:00.0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :03:00.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 177
Unknown: chipset revision 177
Unknown: 100% native mode on irq 177
ide4: BM-DMA at 0x1000-0x1007, BIOS settings: hdi:DMA, hdj:DMA
ide5: BM-DMA at 0x1008-0x100f, BIOS settings: hdk:DMA, hdl:DMA
Probing IDE interface ide4...
hdi: ST3200826A, ATA DISK drive
hdj: ST3320620A, ATA DISK drive
ide4 at 0x1018-0x101f,0x1026 on irq 177
Probing IDE interface ide5...
  Vendor: Generic   Model: USB SD Reader Rev: 1.00
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 00
  Vendor: Generic   Model: USB CF Reader Rev: 1.01
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 00
  Vendor: Generic   Model: USB SM Reader Rev: 1.02
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 00
  Vendor: Generic   Model: USB MS Reader Rev: 1.03
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 00
sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda
sd 0:0:0:1: Attached scsi removable disk sdb
usb-storage: device scan complete
sd 0:0:0:2: Attached scsi removable disk sdc
sd 0:0:0:3: Attached scsi removable disk sdd
hda: max request size: 512KiB
hda: 488397168 sectors (250059 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=30401/255/63
hda: cache flushes supported
 hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 hda10 >
hdi: max request size: 512KiB
hdi: 390721968 sectors (200049 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=24321/255/63, 
UDMA(33)

hdi: cache flushes supported
 hdi:<6>hde: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
hde: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confus

Re: I can't calibrate my touchscreen

2007-10-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 12:31:11AM +, TonyK wrote:
> Hi everyone, I have some difficulties calibrating my touchscreen that
> I just installed.
> I installed my touchscreen on debian with penmount driver for DMC9000
> controller (my touchscreen is connected on /dev/ttyS1)
> 
> Now I can move the mouse cursor with the touchscreen, but there is
> like a mirror behaviour, whenever I touch and try move the mouse
> cursor to
> the right, the mouse cursor moves left, when I go up, it goes down.
> 
> I tried using the calibration tool to calibrate the touchscreen (adv-
> calib)
> The calibration tool prompted me to touch the red square at the top
> left hand corner, but no matter how many times I press on the
> touchscreen at the red square, it doesn't go to the next step, it's
> just stuck there.
> 
> Any one has any idea as to why is it like that?
> 
> Any help is appreciated
Never having done this, I just have a guess.
I would say the configuration is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
And the settings seem to be going in the oppossite directions: 
left move-> right cursor movement...
So, you have to make some parameter reflect this error.
can you post the /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
-K
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epiphany and galeon cannot find acroread ("testing")

2007-10-11 Thread Russell L. Harris
Neither epiphany nor galeon can find "adobe reader"; I installed
acroread in /usr/local/Acrobat5/bin/acroread with a symlink in
/usr/local/bin .

I found a file ~/.galeon , but no corresponding file for epiphany.  

For both galeon and epiphany, the help file displays as a page of raw
XML.

desktop:  gnome
system:   Debian testing
machine:  i386

RLH


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Re: Regarding tar and split

2007-10-11 Thread Carl Johnson
David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Oct 11, 2007, at 5:01 AM, Sean Zimmermann wrote:
> > If I ignored the indexing issue (since most of my work with tar is
> > large,
> > non-incremental backups where I typically restore the entire
> > contents -
> > it would be nice if there was indexing, but is not a huge problem),
> > should I still use something other than tar?
> 
> The answer is a resounding "maybe."   cpio has some advantages over
> tar when doing compressed backups.  It compresses each file
> individually, instead of compressing the entire archive.  This makes
> a big difference for data recovery.  If part of a compressed tar
> archive gets corrupted, you'll probably lose the whole thing.  If
> part of a compressed cpio archive gets corrupted, you'll lose only
> the individual files affected by the corruption.  This was probably
> more of a concern back in the days when we all backed up to tape, but
> bad hard disk sectors and scratched DVD-Rs do happen.
> 
> cpio has a really horrid command line syntax, though. ;)

Are you sure that you are not talking about afio?  I looked at the
documentation for cpio, and there is no mention of compression (for
etch).
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Re: Regarding tar and split

2007-10-11 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:48:10 +0200
"Manon Metten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Sean,
> 
> You might consider using Lha. It does the same as tar and bzip2 together

Tar itself integrates bzip2 via the 'j' switch.

> Manon.

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Re: Trying to find 80wire ide extension cable in France

2007-10-11 Thread Bob

Nigel Henry wrote:
Sorry for posting this here. I've got one fixed drive, vertical on the front 
of the machine. the other drives are accessed using a 5 1/4 slot hard drive 
caddy. This is a carrier that fits in one of my 5 1/4 slots, and I have 
numerous harddrives in drawers that slot into the caddy.


The problem I have is with the ide ribbon cable. It's not long enough to 
connect to both drives, because of their locations. I bought the only 
extension cable available in the UK a 40 wire one, and had this connected to 
the harddrive caddy. The end of the 80 wire cable was conected to the fixed 
data drive. I was constantly getting bootup problems, so swapped the 
connections to the 2 drives. Now, whichever OS I boot, boots ok with no 
problems, but I see on the bootup text complaints about the 40 wire extension 
cable that's connected to hdb, like "this is only a 40 wire cable and this 
drive will be treated as ata33".


Obviously I need an 80 wire extension to resolve the problem.

Is there anyone on this list living in France, that knows where to get some 80 
wire extension cables.


Just a little problem I'd like to resolve.

Any help as always appreciated.

Nigel.
  



There's a limit to the length of IDE cables and most people seem to put 
the second connector in an inconvenient place, the easiest way to get 
out of spec cables is to make them.


As an alternative can you not put the removable drive bay either on it's 
own cable (best) or on the same cable as the optical drive?


Good luck.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT_Attachment


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Re: migration and installation 50 THOUSAND machines

2007-10-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 05:31:38PM -0700, andremachado wrote:
> Hello, Sergio
> Unfortunately, I can not talk about it.

are you working for no such ageny?

> It is a long term (a decade) *concept*, and I need url as resources for the 
> study start.
> Please, read the previously cited urls and look for errors or omissions.
> Do you have urls to suggest?
> How about openldap, Zabbix, Gosa2, ZenOss, etc, in such big Debian 
> deployments?
> The similar sized one I can remember is Munich, Germany [0], [1].

Ah I know, you are the owner of the Stormworm botnet and are going
to remotely turn them all into debian boxes!!! Incredible! 

(note tongue firmly implanted in cheek)

A


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Re: SSH Question

2007-10-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 06:48:26PM -0600, Telly Williams wrote:
> > if you talk about the target computer being a windows host then cygwin
> > has an ssh daemon, personally I use rdesktop for windows as the shell
> > is pretty useless on windows imho.
> > 
> > if you talk about another machine being windows and your home machine
> > - being remote and the target google for putty
> > 
> > hth
> > martin
> 
> But if I didn't want to be bothered with windows, or didn't feel safe
> using the (arbitrary) PC, I could load up something like Puppy from a
> USB, SSH into my computer, and then shutdown and load back up windows?

sure. you could even roll your own puppy with your ssh keys (you do
use pubkey auth, right?) included, stick it on a usb key and just keep
it in your pocket. 

> Or is that too much work?

only you know what is too much work for you. ;-)

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I can't calibrate my touchscreen

2007-10-11 Thread TonyK
Hi everyone, I have some difficulties calibrating my touchscreen that
I just installed.
I installed my touchscreen on debian with penmount driver for DMC9000
controller (my touchscreen is connected on /dev/ttyS1)

Now I can move the mouse cursor with the touchscreen, but there is
like a mirror behaviour, whenever I touch and try move the mouse
cursor to
the right, the mouse cursor moves left, when I go up, it goes down.

I tried using the calibration tool to calibrate the touchscreen (adv-
calib)
The calibration tool prompted me to touch the red square at the top
left hand corner, but no matter how many times I press on the
touchscreen at the red square, it doesn't go to the next step, it's
just stuck there.

Any one has any idea as to why is it like that?

Any help is appreciated

Thank you
Regards,
Tony


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Re: migration and installation 50 THOUSAND machines

2007-10-11 Thread andremachado
Hello, Sergio
Unfortunately, I can not talk about it.
It is a long term (a decade) *concept*, and I need url as resources for the 
study start.
Please, read the previously cited urls and look for errors or omissions.
Do you have urls to suggest?
How about openldap, Zabbix, Gosa2, ZenOss, etc, in such big Debian deployments?
The similar sized one I can remember is Munich, Germany [0], [1].
Regards.
Andre Felipe


[0] http://wiki.debian.org/PressCoverage2006
[1] http://wiki.debian.org/PressCoverage2007




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Re: SSH Question

2007-10-11 Thread Telly Williams
> if you talk about the target computer being a windows host then cygwin
> has an ssh daemon, personally I use rdesktop for windows as the shell
> is pretty useless on windows imho.
> 
> if you talk about another machine being windows and your home machine
> - being remote and the target google for putty
> 
> hth
> martin

But if I didn't want to be bothered with windows, or didn't feel safe
using the (arbitrary) PC, I could load up something like Puppy from a
USB, SSH into my computer, and then shutdown and load back up windows?
Or is that too much work?

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no sound with Intel ICH5 and Conexant cx88

2007-10-11 Thread Eike Lantzsch
Hello:

I can't manage to make Pixelview 8000 with the Conexant chip cx8801 on my ASUS 
board with ICH5 bridge play nicely together. Sound works fine if Pixelview 
isn't plugged in but as soon as the board is present there is only one 
capture device left in alsamixer.
kernel: 2.6.22-2-686 #1 SMP
alsa 1.0.14-2

I read a thread on LinuxQuestions.org of Aug, 2007; somebody had a similar 
problem but no solution.

Below is some output of proc and lspci.

Thank you for your interest. Cheers, Eike



cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.14 (Thu May 31 09:03:25 
2007 UTC).

cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [CX8801 ]: CX88x - Conexant CX8801
  Conexant CX8801 at 0xfb00
 1 [ICH5   ]: ICH4 - Intel ICH5
  Intel ICH5 with AD1888 at irq 21

cat /proc/asound/devices
  0: [ 0]   : control
 24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
 32: [ 1]   : control
 33:: timer
 48: [ 1- 0]: digital audio playback
 52: [ 1- 4]: digital audio playback
 56: [ 1- 0]: digital audio capture
 57: [ 1- 1]: digital audio capture
 58: [ 1- 2]: digital audio capture
 59: [ 1- 3]: digital audio capture

cat /proc/asound/oss/devices
  0: [0- 0]: mixer
  3: [0- 0]: digital audio
  4: [0- 0]: digital audio
 16: [1- 0]: mixer
 19: [1- 0]: digital audio
 20: [1- 0]: digital audio
 28: [1- 1]: digital audio

cat /proc/asound/timers
G0: system timer : 4000.000us (1000 ticks)
P0-0-1: PCM capture 0-0-1 : SLAVE
P1-0-0: PCM playback 1-0-0 : SLAVE
P1-0-1: PCM capture 1-0-1 : SLAVE
P1-1-1: PCM capture 1-1-1 : SLAVE
P1-2-1: PCM capture 1-2-1 : SLAVE
P1-3-1: PCM capture 1-3-1 : SLAVE
P1-4-0: PCM playback 1-4-0 : SLAVE

cat /proc/asound/pcm
00-00: CX88 Digital : CX88 Digital : capture 1
01-04: Intel ICH - IEC958 : Intel ICH5 - IEC958 : playback 1
01-03: Intel ICH - ADC2 : Intel ICH5 - ADC2 : capture 1
01-02: Intel ICH - MIC2 ADC : Intel ICH5 - MIC2 ADC : capture 1
01-01: Intel ICH - MIC ADC : Intel ICH5 - MIC ADC : capture 1
01-00: Intel ICH : Intel ICH5 : playback 1 : capture 1

lsmod | egrep 'snd|intel8x0'
snd_pcm_oss39200  0
snd_mixer_oss  15424  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_intel8x0   32124  2
snd_ac97_codec 92836  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus2272  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm72324  4 
snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,cx88_alsa
snd_timer  21028  1 snd_pcm
snd48324  15 
snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,cx88_alsa,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore   7520  1 snd
snd_page_alloc  9512  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm

lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub 
Interface (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated 
Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI 
Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI 
Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI 
Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI 
Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI 
Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface 
Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE 
Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) 
AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and 
Audio Decoder (rev 05)
01:09.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio 
Decoder [Audio Port] (rev 05)
01:0b.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D / AIC-7881U
01:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit 
Ethernet Controller (rev 13)


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dhelp issue

2007-10-11 Thread Michael D. Norwick

Good Day;

During recent apt-get upgrades on etch testing, I have been receiving 
the following warnings(errors?).  Can someone please advise me as to 
what to configure to fix this?


'/usr/sbin/dhelp_parse: /usr/lib/libdb-4.5.so: no version information 
available (required by /usr/sbin/dhelp_parse)'


and

'Ignoring nonregistered document qt3-doc'

Thank You,

Michael


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Re: migration and installation 50 THOUSAND machines

2007-10-11 Thread Sergio Cuéllar Valdés
2007/10/11, andremachado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello,
> As PART of a viability study about using Debian GNU / Linux for a massive 
> deployment from 5 thousand
> up to 50 thousand machines (desktops AND servers) geographically distributed 
> across a country,
> I searched for some installation, configuration and config management tools 
> for this task size [0], [1], [2].
> Please, verify if a relevant tool is missing or if there are errors and or 
> omissions.
> I found the Alexander Zangerl texts [3] as a good starting point for a 
> broader text.
> They are the most aligned with the study objectives that I was able to find.
> Do you have some ideas?
> Some information about why Debian is suitable for this task?
> What tools are suitable for some of the remaining tasks: managing systems, 
> user accounts, monitoring such big deployment?
> Do you have some url more suitable for reading?
> Regards.
> Andre Felipe Machado
>
> [0] 
> http://www.techforce.com.br/index.php/news/linux_blog/massive_installation_management_tools_p_1
> [1] 
> http://www.techforce.com.br/index.php/news/linux_blog/massive_installation_management_tools_p_2
> [2] 
> http://www.techforce.com.br/index.php/news/linux_blog/massive_installation_management_tools_p_3
> [3] http://people.debian.org/%7Eaz/


Wow !!!

For what are you going to use so many computers ?   =)

I am just curious. For the government ?

Best regards,
Sergio Cuellar


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migration and installation 50 THOUSAND machines

2007-10-11 Thread andremachado
Hello,
As PART of a viability study about using Debian GNU / Linux for a massive 
deployment from 5 thousand 
up to 50 thousand machines (desktops AND servers) geographically distributed 
across a country, 
I searched for some installation, configuration and config management tools for 
this task size [0], [1], [2].
Please, verify if a relevant tool is missing or if there are errors and or 
omissions.
I found the Alexander Zangerl texts [3] as a good starting point for a broader 
text. 
They are the most aligned with the study objectives that I was able to find.
Do you have some ideas? 
Some information about why Debian is suitable for this task?
What tools are suitable for some of the remaining tasks: managing systems, user 
accounts, monitoring such big deployment?
Do you have some url more suitable for reading?
Regards.
Andre Felipe Machado

[0] 
http://www.techforce.com.br/index.php/news/linux_blog/massive_installation_management_tools_p_1
[1] 
http://www.techforce.com.br/index.php/news/linux_blog/massive_installation_management_tools_p_2
[2] 
http://www.techforce.com.br/index.php/news/linux_blog/massive_installation_management_tools_p_3
[3] http://people.debian.org/%7Eaz/





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Re: SSH Question

2007-10-11 Thread Martin Marcher
Hi,

2007/10/11, Telly Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> I see some of you talking about SSHing into your computer from
> another.  What if the computer you're
> using isn't Linux/Unix?

if you talk about the target computer being a windows host then cygwin
has an ssh daemon, personally I use rdesktop for windows as the shell
is pretty useless on windows imho.

if you talk about another machine being windows and your home machine
- being remote and the target google for putty

hth
martin

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Re: PCIe Video and Open source 3D drivers

2007-10-11 Thread Wakko Warner
Orestes Leal wrote:
> El Lun, 8 de Octubre de 2007, 5:21 pm, Wakko Warner escribi??:
> > Kelly Clowers wrote:
> >> On 10/7/07, Wakko Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Thanks.  I saw the X800 listed, unfortunately, ATI makes both a PCIe
> >> and an
> >> > AGP 8x version of the card.  Not sure which they used.  If you have a
> >> clue,
> >> > let me know.  I'll email them and ask too.
> >>
> >> Well, I don't have any direct experience with PCIe, but my understanding
> >> is that it should make no difference at all. PCIe should work just as
> >> well
> >> as AGP. If you find anything that indicates otherwise, I would be
> >> interested in hearing about it.
> >
> > I just heard back from them, the X800 was PCIe.
> >
> 
> No, THe X800 Has the AGP version, too, look.

I was refering to 1 specific card.  In this case, someone was doing
benchmarks and his X800 was PCIe not AGP.  I was already aware that the X800
was available in AGP.

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Re: PCIe Video and Open source 3D drivers

2007-10-11 Thread Wakko Warner
Orestes Leal wrote:
> El Dom, 7 de Octubre de 2007, 9:49 pm, Wakko Warner escribi??:
> > Kelly Clowers wrote:
> >> > I was looking at a V5100 or V7100 (both based on the X800 or X850
> >> chip).
> >> > But the question remains, is the R4xx chips supported in 3D?
> >>
> >> Yes r400 is supported:
> >> http://spearhead.wordpress.com/2007/05/28/gpus-beryl-what-is-needed/
> >
> > Thanks.  I saw the X800 listed, unfortunately, ATI makes both a PCIe and
> > an
> > AGP 8x version of the card.  Not sure which they used.  If you have a
> > clue,
> > let me know.  I'll email them and ask too.
> >
> 
> Yeah, the r400 chips are supported, the fglrx driver
> from ati has support for 3d and 2d accel,
> for example I have a X800 XL AIW Radeon PCIe
> and I have full 3d aceleration (if I can say so :))

My question was, is the chip supported with 3D with open source drivers (ie
NOT using fglrx).

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Re: PCIe Video and Open source 3D drivers

2007-10-11 Thread Orestes Leal
El Dom, 7 de Octubre de 2007, 9:49 pm, Wakko Warner escribió:
> Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> > I was looking at a V5100 or V7100 (both based on the X800 or X850
>> chip).
>> > But the question remains, is the R4xx chips supported in 3D?
>>
>> Yes r400 is supported:
>> http://spearhead.wordpress.com/2007/05/28/gpus-beryl-what-is-needed/
>
> Thanks.  I saw the X800 listed, unfortunately, ATI makes both a PCIe and
> an
> AGP 8x version of the card.  Not sure which they used.  If you have a
> clue,
> let me know.  I'll email them and ask too.
>

Yeah, the r400 chips are supported, the fglrx driver
from ati has support for 3d and 2d accel,
for example I have a X800 XL AIW Radeon PCIe
and I have full 3d aceleration (if I can say so :))

One detail it's right now the r600 are also supported
from the new driver codebase from ati and the new specs
from that chip that amd released.

-olr.




Re: Problem with amixer or ...

2007-10-11 Thread Anna L. Shefl
I've finally revisited this so should update you folks... 

Andrew Sackville-West suggested purging and reinstalling alsa-tools,
alsa-base, and alsa-utils and then not running alsaconf at all.
Without running alsaconf, sound still doesn't work, and, for example, 
xmms gives me the 'Make sure your soundcard is configured' box. 

Chris Lale asked: 'Can you set a new sound level for Master in 
alsamixer? Is the new level persistent?'; I can't do anything in 
alsamixer, as attempting to invoke it gives me 
  alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument 
 
I think 'I think that the problem may lie with amixer. If I run 
"amixer scontrols", it reports almost all my settings at zero!' is 
very near the heart of the problem.  'amixer scontrols' gives me:
  amixer: Mixer default load error: Invalid argument

'amixer controls' gives me somewhat more useful output:
[...] 
numid=7,iface=MIXER,name='Surround Playback Volume'
[...] 
amixer: Control default snd_hctl_elem_info error: Invalid argument

And if I manually set 
amixer -c 0 cset numid=7 80% 
I do get a non-zero volume - that is, I have sound.  The volume and
balance controls in gxine, xmms, etc. don't do anything, but this is a
start. 
 
In answer to Florian Kulzer, the relevant lspci line is: 
  00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition 
Audio Controller (rev 01)
I'm not interested in a kernel upgrade just at the moment but will
check out the links provided.  I'll have to see whether passing
additional parameters for the snd_hda_intel module is the key.



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new beta packages for cacti/spine(former cacti-cactid) available

2007-10-11 Thread sean finney
hello debian-user,


for those of you who use cacti


I've prepared some packages of the beta4 release of cacti/spine 0.8.7 (for 
spine, i386 and amd64 builds), which are now available for general testing 
and feedback.  The easiest way to  upgrade is to put:

deb http://people.debian.org/~seanius/cacti/beta ./

into your /etc/apt/sources.list, and run

 apt-get update

for users who don't already have cacti installed, they can then do:

apt-get install cacti mysql-server

and to install spine:

apt-get install spine

for users who have cacti (but not cacti-cactid) already installed:

apt-get upgrade

for users who have cacti and cacti-cactid installed:

apt-get dist-upgrade

is needed, to transition from cacti-cactid to the new spine package.


i'll make a best effort to keep this repository up to date with any future 
releases between now and the official 0.8.7 release, and any feedback you 
might have about problems/errors/etc is welcome.


sean


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Re: How to wifi with ipw3945 on Dell Vostro ???

2007-10-11 Thread Sarunas Burdulis

Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:

Hi,

I am running Debian Lenny on a Dell Vostro laptop which has a ipw3945
wifi card.

The card is recognised by the software and it even works somehow  (I can
see all the wifi networks in my building using wifi-radar). But whatever
I do I cannot get a  (DHCP) ip address from my Zyxel AP which is using a
WEP key (and it did when I still used Windows Vist so I know for a fact
that it is possible). 


Does anyone have any idea of how to get this card talking to my WEP AP?

TIA

Some maybe useful info:

* 
/etc/network/interfaceses:


auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

Did you install network-manager and network-manager-(gnome|kde)? If so, 
the above two lines is all that you should have in /etc/network/interfaces


nm-applet GUI will let enter all the options needed, including WEP key.

Sarunas Burdulis


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Re: Can you help about udp?

2007-10-11 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 08:50:20AM -0400, chloe K wrote:
> I use linux as GiGE router and have 6 NIC on it
> Those days the NIC interrupt takes around 100% CPU but the system is 4G 
> memroy and 8 CPU. I can't see any error packet in this NIC interface too
> 
> After I block the udp, the %CPU drops. but the UDP only takes around 8M in 
> general
> 
> We use UDP traffic for voice.
> 
> Do you have any suggestion ?  increase the kernel parameter?

You might tweak your settings using ethtool if you have ethtool supported
NICs.

- Ryan


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Re: computer freezes, no obvious reason

2007-10-11 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 10:58:36AM -0400, Kaloyan M. Penev wrote:
> Also because I had to install the fglrx driver from the radeon web page
> (v 8.41.7), which for some reason requires libstdc++5, and everything else
> requires libstdc++6 when I compile opengl applications I get a warning
> that there may be possible conflicts between libstdc++5 and libstdc++6 and
> sometimes the compiled executable works and sometimes does not.

Do you see the same problems without the fglrx driver installed?  AFAIR,
fglrx doesn't play nice with SMP.  

- Ryan


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Re: PCIe Video and Open source 3D drivers

2007-10-11 Thread Orestes Leal
El Lun, 8 de Octubre de 2007, 5:21 pm, Wakko Warner escribió:
> Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> On 10/7/07, Wakko Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Thanks.  I saw the X800 listed, unfortunately, ATI makes both a PCIe
>> and an
>> > AGP 8x version of the card.  Not sure which they used.  If you have a
>> clue,
>> > let me know.  I'll email them and ask too.
>>
>> Well, I don't have any direct experience with PCIe, but my understanding
>> is that it should make no difference at all. PCIe should work just as
>> well
>> as AGP. If you find anything that indicates otherwise, I would be
>> interested in hearing about it.
>
> I just heard back from them, the X800 was PCIe.
>

No, THe X800 Has the AGP version, too, look.


X800 SE  R420  PCI-E 128/256MB DDR 425 MHz 350 MHz / 256 Bit 8 / 8 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 SE  R420  AGP 256MB DDR 450 MHz 400 MHz / 256 Bit 8 / 8 / 6 DX9.0,
PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 GT AIW  R423 / R480  PCI-E 128MB GDDR3 400 MHz 490 MHz / 128 Bit 8 /
8 / 6 DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 GT  R423 / R480  PCI-E 256MB GDDR3 475 MHz 493 MHz / 256 Bit 8 / 8 /
6 DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800  R430  PCI-E 128/256MB DDR 400 MHz 350 MHz / 256 Bit 12 / 12 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 GTO  R480 / R423  PCI-E 128MB GDDR3 400 MHz 400 MHz / 256 Bit 12 / 12
/ 6 DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 GTO  R480  AGP 256MB GDDR3 400 MHz 490 MHz / 256 Bit 12 / 12 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 GTO  R480 / R423  PCI-E 256MB GDDR3 400 MHz 490 MHz / 256 Bit 12 / 12
/ 6 DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 Pro  R420  AGP 256MB GDDR3 475 MHz 450 MHz / 256 Bit 12 / 12 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 Pro (VIVO)  R420  AGP 256MB GDDR3 475 MHz 450 MHz / 256 Bit 12 / 12 /
6 DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X850 Pro  R480  PCI-E 256MB GDDR3 520 MHz 540 MHz / 256 Bit 12 / 12 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X850 Pro  R481  AGP 256MB GDDR3 507 MHz 520 MHz / 256 Bit 12 / 12 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 XL AIW  R420  AGP 256MB GDDR3 400 MHz 490 MHz / 256 Bit 16 / 16 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 XL  R430  AGP 256MB GDDR3 400 MHz 500 MHz / 256 Bit 16 / 16 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 XL  R430  PCI-E 256/512MB GDDR3 400 MHz 500 MHz / 256 Bit 16 / 16 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 XT AIW  R420  AGP 256MB GDDR3 500 MHz 500 MHz / 256 Bit 16 / 16 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X1800 GTO  R520  PCI-E 256MB GDDR3 500 MHz 495 MHz / 256 Bit 12 / 12 / 8
DX9.0, PS3.0, VS3.0
X800 XT  R420  AGP 256MB GDDR3 500 MHz 500 MHz / 256 Bit 16 / 16 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 XT  R423  PCI-E 256MB GDDR3 500 MHz 500 MHz / 256 Bit 16 / 16 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 XT PE  R420  AGP 256MB GDDR3 520 MHz 560 MHz / 256 Bit 16 / 16 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0
X800 XT PE  R423  PCI-E 256MB GDDR3 520 MHz 560 MHz / 256 Bit 16 / 16 / 6
DX9.0, PS2.0, VS2.0





Trying to find 80wire ide extension cable in France

2007-10-11 Thread Nigel Henry
Sorry for posting this here. I've got one fixed drive, vertical on the front 
of the machine. the other drives are accessed using a 5 1/4 slot hard drive 
caddy. This is a carrier that fits in one of my 5 1/4 slots, and I have 
numerous harddrives in drawers that slot into the caddy.

The problem I have is with the ide ribbon cable. It's not long enough to 
connect to both drives, because of their locations. I bought the only 
extension cable available in the UK a 40 wire one, and had this connected to 
the harddrive caddy. The end of the 80 wire cable was conected to the fixed 
data drive. I was constantly getting bootup problems, so swapped the 
connections to the 2 drives. Now, whichever OS I boot, boots ok with no 
problems, but I see on the bootup text complaints about the 40 wire extension 
cable that's connected to hdb, like "this is only a 40 wire cable and this 
drive will be treated as ata33".

Obviously I need an 80 wire extension to resolve the problem.

Is there anyone on this list living in France, that knows where to get some 80 
wire extension cables.

Just a little problem I'd like to resolve.

Any help as always appreciated.

Nigel.


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Re: (mod-) ssl for apache 2.2.x

2007-10-11 Thread Michael Shuler
On 10/11/2007 02:30 PM, Robert Cates wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> am I wrong - there's no (mod-) ssl package for the etch apache 2.2
> server?  I can I get my apache 2.2 server ssl enabled?  Or do I need to
> install/use the apache 1.3 package for ssl support?

The package is libapache-mod-ssl - install that, then run 'a2enmod ssl'
to enable the module in your apache configuration.

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(mod-) ssl for apache 2.2.x

2007-10-11 Thread Robert Cates

Hi all,

am I wrong - there's no (mod-) ssl package for the etch apache 2.2 
server?  I can I get my apache 2.2 server ssl enabled?  Or do I need to 
install/use the apache 1.3 package for ssl support?


Thanks for your help,
Robert


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Re: xfce window manager

2007-10-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 07:15:39PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West on 10/10/07 23:09, wrote:
>> killall xfwm4 && wmii
>> ooh, that's ugly, but it sorta works. leaves the panels all over the
>> place when you switch back. Its always fun to mess with a DTE by
>> swapping out the wm for something completely unrelated. Its funny
>> watching it try to figure out what to do...
>
> Haha! That was fun while it lasted (about 5 minutes). I can't get my head 
> around that wmii paradigm - it feels like a morph of vi!
>
> I couldn't figure out how to launch programs apart from the old xfce 
> desktop which was acting like its own window. And then of course it didn't 
> launch anything maximised.

you launch programs with the dmenu program. You call it with Mod-P (I
recommend remapping that to something else as it intereferes with some
gtk apps) and then start typing. It pops up a list of matches (in the
status bar) that gets selectively more relevant. Its kinda fun
actually to try and come up with the shortest unique set of keystrokes
to get the program you want. Mod-P c-e-w   gets iceweasel on my
box. I suppose it depends on what you have installed though. 

>
> I figure, I could just save a session in xfwm with all the apps I usually 
> use open and maximised and that would be 80% of the way there.

that would probably work. 

Also you can set ~/.xdefaults for some apps with geometry settings
that make sense for you.

and FTR, I don't really think you could successfully pull off using
wmii within xfce like that. Its really made to run on its own. And,
i've moved on to xmonad, as it seems to do a couple things better for
me.

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Re: Regarding tar and split

2007-10-11 Thread Manon Metten
Hi Sean,

You might consider using Lha. It does the same as tar and bzip2 together
(although you can disable compression).
It has a simple syntax. You can also view the contents of the archive and
even extract one single file from it.

Example (suppose I have a 'work' dir with a.o. the file 'abc' in it):

cd ~
lha a work.lha work/  (pack and compress entire dir incl. sub dirs)
lha v work.lha   ( view contents)
lha x work.lha work/abc(extract only the file work/abc from the
archive).

Manon.


Re: xfce window manager

2007-10-11 Thread David Brodbeck


On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Adam Hardy wrote:


Andrew Sackville-West on 10/10/07 23:09, wrote:

killall xfwm4 && wmii
ooh, that's ugly, but it sorta works. leaves the panels all over the
place when you switch back. Its always fun to mess with a DTE by
swapping out the wm for something completely unrelated. Its funny
watching it try to figure out what to do...


Haha! That was fun while it lasted (about 5 minutes). I can't get  
my head around that wmii paradigm - it feels like a morph of vi!


Yeah, I gave it a whirl on the GRML CD but couldn't quite figure it  
out.  I went through the tutorial, but often when I'd press the keys  
the tutorial told me to press, nothing would happen.





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Re: HELP! can't become root

2007-10-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 01:16:27PM -0500, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 11 October 2007 13:04, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 10 October 2007 13:04, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > I seem to recall once I did a chown -R something and it followed the
> > > /. and /.. links in the directory so that it started walking up the
> > > directory tree. luckily I stopped it. Perhaps chmod -R is doing a
> > > similar thing?
> > >
> > > A
> >
> > That does /not/ happen with any utility's -R. They don't walk up the tree
> > with ../ , it would be way too dangerous to have any utility work that way.
> > Think about it. Below are some exampoles using * and even .* to prove it
> > (it's a little hard to read with line wrapping):
> 
> Actually, I was wrong! (partially) and it's somewhat frightening. It does 
> indeed climb up one level - just one, I don't know why.
> 
> (please note that in my examples I'm using a combination of ls -l and ls -ld )
> 
> Running chown -R .* does in fact, change the ownership of just one level up:
> 

... 

> 
> However, this would mean the OP had to do something like:
> cd /dev
> ch[mod] -R .*
> 
> because chown -R * does not climb the tree like .* does.
> 

maybe OP did 

cd /
chown -R /dev/.* 

in an attempt to get any hidden files in /dev? or maybe the finger
slipped. In any event, I *knew* I had encountered something like this
with chown affecting *WAY* more than I thought it should. IIRC, it ran
through my whole mail spool instead of just one user's stuff or
somthing like that.

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Re: How to wifi with ipw3945 on Dell Vostro ???

2007-10-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 10:37:15AM -0500, Michael Shuler wrote:
> On 10/11/2007 10:11 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

[snipped wacky wireless crap]

> > 
> > I'm planning to wipe that lappy and start over anyway (need to use
> > encryption) so I'll start over from scratch on the wireless. If I get
> > anything useful I'll post it up.
> 
> I simply use the interfaces file with mapping for the various wireless
> networks I use, and a script with 'iwlist eth1 scan' to figure out which
> AP I am in range of.
> 
> I do not recall where I stumbled across this setting, but it definitely
> helped my issues with connecting to some APs from my T60 w/ipw3945.  I
> added the 'associate=1' option to the module load, and all was well:
> 
> $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/ipw3945d
> install ipw3945 modprobe --ignore-install ipw3945 associate=1 &&
> /etc/init.d/ipw3945d modprobe-start
> remove  ipw3945 /etc/init.d/ipw3945d modprobe-stop && modprobe -r
> --ignore-remove ipw3945

ooh, that looks promising. thanks

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Re: debian kernel bugs / or is it grub?

2007-10-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 12:01:01AM +0800, Richard wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
...
> 
> > whoops. I must have missed (and snipped) that. I assume the messages
> > above are from the kernel itself?
> 
> Yes, the message i quoted comes almost instantly after the grub menu
> when the kernel tries to load.
> 

have you tried loading the kernel by hand from the 

grub> 

prompt? 


> > Is it possible that you've got a bad initrd and that's causing the
> > problem? You could boot with a live-cd, chroot in and rebuild your
> > initrd maybe.
> 
> :-) As i also wrote in my first post, i tried several ways to get other
> kernels to boot. From Ubuntu i chrooted into the fresh Debian
> installation and loaded/installed the Ubuntu kernel (with no succes), i
>  build a custom kernel from 2.6.22.6 sources without initrd (with no
> succes). All without the desired effect of me being able to boot into
> Debian again. So in my view now grub also gets suspected because this
> can't load the kernel.

yeah, I would say grub is suspect as well. You can reinstall grub from
within the chroot too, FWIW.

> 
> I am now using Ubuntu and it looks very nice, maybe i try Debian a few
> weeks later again or so, when my mood feels like it. And then i will try
> lilo.

I was going to suggest trying lilo as well. 

I find it hard to understand how ubuntu can boot when debian
can't. I'm willing to be that if you end up reinstalling debian again,
it just works. shrug.

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Re: HELP! can't become root

2007-10-11 Thread Jonathan Wilson
On Thursday 11 October 2007 13:16, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
>  It does
> indeed climb up one level - just one, I don't know why.
>

Well, I guess I do know why: because it's using ../

I'll crawl back under my rock now . . . 

JW

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Re: HELP! can't become root

2007-10-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 01:04:49PM -0500, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 October 2007 13:04, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 05:25:17PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > > Well, I got a list of perm's for stuff in /dev (from a sarge system. I'm
> > > on etch). There were only two diff's: two sound devices. But there are
> > > lots of insane permissions throughout the rest of the system. Is this
> > > because when I did 'chmod -R 777 /dev' I also in effect did 'chmod -R 777
> > > /dev/hda1'? But when I do 'ls -R /dev/hda1' I get only  '/dev/hda1'. Why
> > > the diff' in the scope of the commands? And where do you read about this
> > > kind of thing?
> >
> > well, ls and chmod are different utilities, so the -R could easily have
> > different effects despite having apparently the same function.
> >
> > I seem to recall once I did a chown -R something and it followed the
> > /. and /.. links in the directory so that it started walking up the
> > directory tree. luckily I stopped it. Perhaps chmod -R is doing a
> > similar thing?
> >
> > A
> 
> That does /not/ happen with any utility's -R. They don't walk up the tree 
> with ../ , it would be way too dangerous to have any utility work that way. 

Absolutely dangerous. So maybe I'll amend my statement above with an
emphasis on the *seem* and *something*. The result was that I ended up
chowning a bunch of stuff I didn't want to with ensuing chaos. My
memory of the specifics are fuzzy. But it definitely ended up chowning
up the tree *somehow*.

> 
> The only way for a recursive run to get back up higher in the tree is 
> following a symlink (which is certainly a realistic possibility).

this may have been the case. 

A


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Re: HELP! can't become root

2007-10-11 Thread Jonathan Wilson
On Thursday 11 October 2007 13:04, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 October 2007 13:04, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > I seem to recall once I did a chown -R something and it followed the
> > /. and /.. links in the directory so that it started walking up the
> > directory tree. luckily I stopped it. Perhaps chmod -R is doing a
> > similar thing?
> >
> > A
>
> That does /not/ happen with any utility's -R. They don't walk up the tree
> with ../ , it would be way too dangerous to have any utility work that way.
> Think about it. Below are some exampoles using * and even .* to prove it
> (it's a little hard to read with line wrapping):

Actually, I was wrong! (partially) and it's somewhat frightening. It does 
indeed climb up one level - just one, I don't know why.

(please note that in my examples I'm using a combination of ls -l and ls -ld )

Running chown -R .* does in fact, change the ownership of just one level up:

amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# chown -R fred .*
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -ld /tmp/test/1/2/
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 /tmp/test/1/2/
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -ld /tmp/test/1/2/3/
drwxr-xr-x 3 fred root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 /tmp/test/1/2/3/
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -ld /tmp/test/1/2/3/4/
drwxr-xr-x 3 fred root 72 2007-10-11 13:07 /tmp/test/1/2/3/4/

Or viewed another way:
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -ld .
drwxr-xr-x 3 jw root 72 2007-10-11 13:07 .
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -ld ../
drwxr-xr-x 4 jw root 96 2007-10-11 13:10 ../
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -ld ../../
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 ../../

AND, what's really uncomfortable is that it changes the ownership on any other 
directories that are inside the next folder up:

amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# chown -R jw .*
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -l /tmp/test/1/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 2
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -l /tmp/test/1/2/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 4 jw root 96 2007-10-11 13:10 3
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -l /tmp/test/1/2/3/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 jw root 72 2007-10-11 13:07 4
drwxr-xr-x 3 jw root 72 2007-10-11 13:10 sub1
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -l /tmp/test/1/2/3/sub1/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 jw root 72 2007-10-11 13:10 sub2
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -l /tmp/test/1/2/3/sub1/sub2/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 jw root 48 2007-10-11 13:10 sub3

However, this would mean the OP had to do something like:
cd /dev
ch[mod] -R .*

because chown -R * does not climb the tree like .* does.

JW

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Re: xfce window manager

2007-10-11 Thread Adam Hardy

Andrew Sackville-West on 10/10/07 23:09, wrote:


killall xfwm4 && wmii

ooh, that's ugly, but it sorta works. leaves the panels all over the
place when you switch back. Its always fun to mess with a DTE by
swapping out the wm for something completely unrelated. Its funny
watching it try to figure out what to do...


Haha! That was fun while it lasted (about 5 minutes). I can't get my head around 
that wmii paradigm - it feels like a morph of vi!


I couldn't figure out how to launch programs apart from the old xfce desktop 
which was acting like its own window. And then of course it didn't launch 
anything maximised.


I figure, I could just save a session in xfwm with all the apps I usually use 
open and maximised and that would be 80% of the way there.



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Re: Regarding tar and split

2007-10-11 Thread David Brodbeck


On Oct 11, 2007, at 5:01 AM, Sean Zimmermann wrote:
If I ignored the indexing issue (since most of my work with tar is  
large,
non-incremental backups where I typically restore the entire  
contents -

it would be nice if there was indexing, but is not a huge problem),
should I still use something other than tar?


The answer is a resounding "maybe."   cpio has some advantages over  
tar when doing compressed backups.  It compresses each file  
individually, instead of compressing the entire archive.  This makes  
a big difference for data recovery.  If part of a compressed tar  
archive gets corrupted, you'll probably lose the whole thing.  If  
part of a compressed cpio archive gets corrupted, you'll lose only  
the individual files affected by the corruption.  This was probably  
more of a concern back in the days when we all backed up to tape, but  
bad hard disk sectors and scratched DVD-Rs do happen.


cpio has a really horrid command line syntax, though. ;)




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Re: HELP! can't become root

2007-10-11 Thread Jonathan Wilson
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 13:04, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 05:25:17PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > Well, I got a list of perm's for stuff in /dev (from a sarge system. I'm
> > on etch). There were only two diff's: two sound devices. But there are
> > lots of insane permissions throughout the rest of the system. Is this
> > because when I did 'chmod -R 777 /dev' I also in effect did 'chmod -R 777
> > /dev/hda1'? But when I do 'ls -R /dev/hda1' I get only  '/dev/hda1'. Why
> > the diff' in the scope of the commands? And where do you read about this
> > kind of thing?
>
> well, ls and chmod are different utilities, so the -R could easily have
> different effects despite having apparently the same function.
>
> I seem to recall once I did a chown -R something and it followed the
> /. and /.. links in the directory so that it started walking up the
> directory tree. luckily I stopped it. Perhaps chmod -R is doing a
> similar thing?
>
> A

That does /not/ happen with any utility's -R. They don't walk up the tree 
with ../ , it would be way too dangerous to have any utility work that way. 
Think about it. Below are some exampoles using * and even .* to prove it 
(it's a little hard to read with line wrapping):

amethyst:/tmp# mkdir -p test/1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/0/1/2/3/4
amethyst:/tmp# ls -l test
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 1
amethyst:/tmp# ls -l test
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 1
amethyst:/tmp# ls -ld test
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-11 12:57 test
amethyst:/tmp# ls -ld test/
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-11 12:57 test/
amethyst:/tmp# ls -ld test/1/
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 test/1/
amethyst:/tmp# cd test/1/2/3/4/
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -l
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 5
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# chown -R jw *
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -l
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 jw root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 5
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -ld .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 .
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -lA
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 jw root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 5
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -la
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 ..
drwxr-xr-x 3 jw   root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 5

amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# chown -R fred .*
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -l
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 3 fred root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 5
amethyst:/tmp/test/1/2/3/4# ls -ld .
drwxr-xr-x 3 fred root 72 2007-10-11 12:56 .

The only way for a recursive run to get back up higher in the tree is 
following a symlink (which is certainly a realistic possibility).

JW



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Re: texmaker bug?

2007-10-11 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 04:48:57PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:

[...]
> 
> I didn't even know what texmaker was until today.

It's surprisingly unknown: people are always complaining about learning
latex, but with texmaker you hardly need to.  Kile is the same thing
(originally built on it, I believe) but with a load of kde stuff running 
so texmaker starts in a fraction of the time.

Recommended. Particularly for those who don't want to learn vim-latexsuite.

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Re: good tool to recover scratched CD's/DVD's?

2007-10-11 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 02:34:25PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:

> There is a mechanical device which is able to restore a scratched CD
> by polishing it with a mild abrasive.  

Perhaps surprisingly, I have often done this by hand.  Choose a very
fine grit -- the best in the UK is "Brasso", intended for polishing
brass, as you might guess. Use a soft clean cloth.  You can get quite
serious scratches out by multiple applications and polishes.  The
surface acquires a slight "wave" where you work on it most, but they
seem to be readable usually.

There's nothing like the old ways...

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Re: How to wifi with ipw3945 on Dell Vostro ???

2007-10-11 Thread Joost Kraaijeveld
On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 10:37 -0500, Michael Shuler wrote:
> On 10/11/2007 10:11 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > I've been watching for some action on this thread as I have the same
> > chip giving me fits. It appears that I have to use the built-in keys
> > to turn the radio off and then back on to get it to actually wake up
> > and connect. Its been a little frustrating. I've also found Network
> > Manager to be unpredictable if not down right impossible to use. It
> > seems to be too smart for its own good sometimes. 
> > 
> > I've ended up having to use a different tool: wifi-radar and (shudder)
> > rebooting to get wireless to work. Typically, the dance I had to go
> > (this was on a cross coutnry trip -- different wireless in each hotel)
> > through was down all the interfaces, comment out the wired ethernet
> > from /etc/network/interfaces, reboot, then use wifi-radar to connect
> > entering appropriate keys etc. Sometimes I'd have to manually shutdown
> > the radio (as above) and bring it back up to get it to go.
> > 
> > I'm not convinced that my problems are necessarily with the
> > driver/interface but that cycling the radio thing suggests it might
> > be. 
> > 
> > I'm planning to wipe that lappy and start over anyway (need to use
> > encryption) so I'll start over from scratch on the wireless. If I get
> > anything useful I'll post it up.
> 
> I simply use the interfaces file with mapping for the various wireless
> networks I use, and a script with 'iwlist eth1 scan' to figure out which
> AP I am in range of.
> 
> I do not recall where I stumbled across this setting, but it definitely
> helped my issues with connecting to some APs from my T60 w/ipw3945.  I
> added the 'associate=1' option to the module load, and all was well:
> 
> $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/ipw3945d
> install ipw3945 modprobe --ignore-install ipw3945 associate=1 &&
> /etc/init.d/ipw3945d modprobe-start
> remove  ipw3945 /etc/init.d/ipw3945d modprobe-stop && modprobe -r
> --ignore-remove ipw3945

I have tried almost every solution I have found on the internet (I
*really* need wifi) and suprise: I had contact with my AP. Once. Slowly.
Me happy ;-). Rebooted to verify the solution. Nothing works 

I am desperate and suddenly know why the rest of the world does not like
Linux and only the motivated survive.

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Re: debian kernel bugs / or is it grub?

2007-10-11 Thread Richard
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 12:50:54PM +0800, Ben Evenweg wrote:
>> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 10:15:35AM +0800, Richard van der Veen wrote:
 Hi
 I am not sure how to send  a bug report about this because it seems to
 be in several different kernels from Debian. (maybe it even is not
 kernel specific but it's grub which is doing something wrong.)

 When i replaced my ATA DVD writer with an SATA DVD writer and placed
 another ATA harddisk on the connector, i got in my selfbuild kernel(*1
 an OOPS. This made me decide to re-install debian. I downloaded a
 daily-build netinstall CD from Lenny and wanted to convert that to Sid
 - because that is my normal debian 'outfit' on the computer.  With the
 installation everything went smoothly, but when i rebooted the
 computer crashed/hanged on booting the kernel. The message on the
 screen was:
 --
 PCI:BIOS BUG: MCFG area at f000 is not E820-reserved
 PCI: Not using MMCONFIG
 PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for :01:00
 Loading , please wait
 ide0: I/O resource 0x3F6-0x3F6 not free.
 ide0: ports already in use, skipping probe
 ide1: I/O resource 0x376-0x376 not free.
 ide1: ports already in use, skipping probe
 --
 hang
>>> what happens if you pull that dvd drive and boot? Looks to me like
>>> you've got a nasty hardware conflict going on. I'd start with some
>>> easy swaps like pulling that drive and then move up to futzing with
>>> the bios.
>>>
>>> its not much, but I hth.
>>>
>>> A
>> Well ... to me it does not seem like a conflict in my hardware because
>> as i said before Fedora 7, Opensuse 10.3 and Ubuntu Gutsy (BETA) seems
>> to work perfectly well with this hardware configuration. Only Debian has
>> trouble to work on it - can not even let the kernel boot. Then my
>> conclusion is that it is Debian related and not hardware related. But
>> strange because Ubuntu is for a big part also just Debian. Anyway thank
>> you for your response.
>>
>>

> whoops. I must have missed (and snipped) that. I assume the messages
> above are from the kernel itself?

Yes, the message i quoted comes almost instantly after the grub menu
when the kernel tries to load.

> Is it possible that you've got a bad initrd and that's causing the
> problem? You could boot with a live-cd, chroot in and rebuild your
> initrd maybe.

:-) As i also wrote in my first post, i tried several ways to get other
kernels to boot. From Ubuntu i chrooted into the fresh Debian
installation and loaded/installed the Ubuntu kernel (with no succes), i
 build a custom kernel from 2.6.22.6 sources without initrd (with no
succes). All without the desired effect of me being able to boot into
Debian again. So in my view now grub also gets suspected because this
can't load the kernel.

I am now using Ubuntu and it looks very nice, maybe i try Debian a few
weeks later again or so, when my mood feels like it. And then i will try
lilo.

thanx
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Re: Tool for document management

2007-10-11 Thread Richard Lyons
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 01:31:57AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:31:32 -0400, Douglas A Tutty
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:  
> 
> > Here's my personal letter template.  I copy it to the correct file
> > name, edit it, then latex it.  The letter text itself is just plain
> > text.
> 
> 
> > \documentclass[letterpaper,12pt]{article}
> > %preamble here
> > \begin{document}
> > % no page number on this first page
> > \thispagestyle{empty} \begin{flushleft} Douglas A. Tutty\\ xxx
> > x, RR. x\\ xx, ON xxx xxx\\ Ph: (xxx) xxx--\\ Email:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] \end{flushleft}
> 
> > \noindent \today
> 
> > \bigskip
[...]
> 
> --8<---cut hereletter_template->8---
> 
> \documentclass[12pt]{letter}
> \usepackage[dvips]{graphicx}
> \usepackage{times}
> \pagestyle{empty}
> \usepackage[margin=1in, head=0.25in, headsep=0.25in, nofoot]{geometry}
> \setlength{\topmargin}{0pt}
> \setlength{\oddsidemargin}{0pt}
> \setlength{\headheight}{0pt}
> \setlength{\headsep}{0pt}
> \setlength{\footskip}{5pt}
> \setlength{\textheight}{9.0in}
> \setlength{\textwidth}{6.5in}
> 
> \address{Manoj Srivastava\\
> 229 Brandon Lane\\
> Woodbury, TN 37190}
[...]

Thanks, guys.  I have been doing the same sort of thing -- in more
complex templates -- for some years.  I've always felt it was a bit
clumsy to finish up with all these files cluttering up my nice clean
directories.  So now you have spurred me into writing a script to take
a given letter -- just the bit from the address to the end of the
content -- and add the template letterhead, the date, and the closing,
put the heading in bold, then latex, dvips, save a tagline on the
original body file to say which template was used, what date, and what
style of closing, clean up the intermediate files and make tea.

Well, I nearly did it too, but I couldn't persuade bash to stop
stripping out backslashes, so I've started again in perl. Nearly there
now.  So thanks for the stimulation.  I've been putting this off for
years.  Now I'll be able to write letters mostly in plain text. :-)

But it doesn't yet make tea...
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Re: computer freezes, no obvious reason

2007-10-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 10:58:36AM -0400, Kaloyan M. Penev wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I recently installed debian stable. Immediately after that I downloaded
> and compiled myself the latest kernel version: 2.6.22.8. Since my machine
> is quad core I enabled SMP and other things that seemed appropriate. The
> system boots up and works almost fine, however I am experiencing the
> following weird problems:
> 
> When I try to compile something with g++ every now and then I get the
> following message:

compiling is a great way to find hardware problems. my first thought
is bad memory. Use a systematic approach to test each stick in each
slot. Lots of people recommend memtest, but I find it doesn't always
find the errors. 

> 
> ./matrix.cpp:602: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
> Please submit a full bug report,
> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
> See http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
> For Debian GNU/Linux specific bug reporting instructions,
> see .
> The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem.
> 
> Also because I had to install the fglrx driver from the radeon web page
> (v 8.41.7), which for some reason requires libstdc++5, and everything else
> requires libstdc++6 when I compile opengl applications I get a warning
> that there may be possible conflicts between libstdc++5 and libstdc++6 and
> sometimes the compiled executable works and sometimes does not.
> 
> Also every now and then everything just freezes and the only thing left
> for me to do is press the reset button. Looking at kern.log and syslog
> shows nothing suspicious around the time this happens. I did search
> through kern.log and syslog for suspicios messages and I have attached all
> I found below (perhaps there are more):
> 
> kern.log:
> potato kernel: No NUMA configuration found
> potato kernel: Faking a node at -7fef
> potato kernel: swsusp: Registered nosave memory region: 0009b000 -
> 0009c000
> 
> potato kernel: usb 2-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and
> address 2 (this repeats many times while running, every few minutes if I
> use the device)
> 
> potato kernel: ClientGUI[7156] general protection rip:2b6259cf66ce
> rsp:7fff534bf4c0 error:0
> potato kernel: ClientGUI[7296]: segfault at ffe8 rip
> 2b9d486c76d4 rsp 7fff64aecaf0 error 4
> potato kernel: ClientGUI[8543] general protection rip:2b2c244416ce
> rsp:7fff88d72d80 error:0
> potato kernel: ClientGUI[8706]: segfault at 0110 rip
> 2b363e36c6ce rsp 7fff6ee47e50 error 4
> (where ClientGUI is an opengl application that I am writing, uses
> wxwidgets, gl and glu)
> 
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel: WARNING: at fs/buffer.c:570
> __remove_assoc_queue()
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel: Call Trace:
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  []
> drop_buffers+0xa4/0xec Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:
> [] try_to_free_buffers+0x57/0x
> 9b
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  []
> shrink_inactive_list+0x4ed/
> 0x83a
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  []
> __pagevec_release+0x19/0x22
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  []
> shrink_active_list+0x483/0x491
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  []
> thread_return+0x0/0xdb Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:
> [] shrink_zone+0xf4/0x11d
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  [] kswapd+0x2da/0x489
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  []
> autoremove_wake_function+0x
> 0/0x2e
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  [] kswapd+0x0/0x489
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  [] kthread+0x47/0x75
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  [] child_rip+0xa/0x12
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  [] kthread+0x0/0x75
> Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  [] child_rip+0x0/0x12
> 
> 
> The same messages repeat of course in syslog.
> 
> The last simptom that I notice is that when I mount an external SATA over
> USB disk it starts reading from the disk and it takes it about 30 sec to a
> minute to stop (the same exact disk does not behave that way when I plug
> it into another computer running debian).

I don't think this is necessarily indicative of anything unless you
know you've got the same packages installed on both machines, although
that USB message above may point to a flaky controller or driver. Look
at the package differences between the two systems first, as that's
fairly easy to compare. Tail -f the logs while using that disk to see
if those errors crop up during that spin-up time and try plugging into
a different USB port to see if you can get on a different controller
to start isolating that as potential problem (lsusb helps here). 

Finally, don't discount the possibility of a failing power supply. A
failing power supply can wreak subtle havoc everywhere.

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Re: How to wifi with ipw3945 on Dell Vostro ???

2007-10-11 Thread Michael Shuler
On 10/11/2007 10:11 AM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> I've been watching for some action on this thread as I have the same
> chip giving me fits. It appears that I have to use the built-in keys
> to turn the radio off and then back on to get it to actually wake up
> and connect. Its been a little frustrating. I've also found Network
> Manager to be unpredictable if not down right impossible to use. It
> seems to be too smart for its own good sometimes. 
> 
> I've ended up having to use a different tool: wifi-radar and (shudder)
> rebooting to get wireless to work. Typically, the dance I had to go
> (this was on a cross coutnry trip -- different wireless in each hotel)
> through was down all the interfaces, comment out the wired ethernet
> from /etc/network/interfaces, reboot, then use wifi-radar to connect
> entering appropriate keys etc. Sometimes I'd have to manually shutdown
> the radio (as above) and bring it back up to get it to go.
> 
> I'm not convinced that my problems are necessarily with the
> driver/interface but that cycling the radio thing suggests it might
> be. 
> 
> I'm planning to wipe that lappy and start over anyway (need to use
> encryption) so I'll start over from scratch on the wireless. If I get
> anything useful I'll post it up.

I simply use the interfaces file with mapping for the various wireless
networks I use, and a script with 'iwlist eth1 scan' to figure out which
AP I am in range of.

I do not recall where I stumbled across this setting, but it definitely
helped my issues with connecting to some APs from my T60 w/ipw3945.  I
added the 'associate=1' option to the module load, and all was well:

$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/ipw3945d
install ipw3945 modprobe --ignore-install ipw3945 associate=1 &&
/etc/init.d/ipw3945d modprobe-start
remove  ipw3945 /etc/init.d/ipw3945d modprobe-stop && modprobe -r
--ignore-remove ipw3945

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Re: debian kernel bugs / or is it grub?

2007-10-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 12:50:54PM +0800, Ben Evenweg wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 10:15:35AM +0800, Richard van der Veen wrote:
> >> Hi
> >> I am not sure how to send  a bug report about this because it seems to
> >> be in several different kernels from Debian. (maybe it even is not
> >> kernel specific but it's grub which is doing something wrong.)
> >>
> >> When i replaced my ATA DVD writer with an SATA DVD writer and placed
> >> another ATA harddisk on the connector, i got in my selfbuild kernel(*1
> >> an OOPS. This made me decide to re-install debian. I downloaded a
> >> daily-build netinstall CD from Lenny and wanted to convert that to Sid
> >> - because that is my normal debian 'outfit' on the computer.  With the
> >> installation everything went smoothly, but when i rebooted the
> >> computer crashed/hanged on booting the kernel. The message on the
> >> screen was:
> >> --
> >> PCI:BIOS BUG: MCFG area at f000 is not E820-reserved
> >> PCI: Not using MMCONFIG
> >> PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:[EMAIL PROTECTED] for :01:00
> >> Loading , please wait
> >> ide0: I/O resource 0x3F6-0x3F6 not free.
> >> ide0: ports already in use, skipping probe
> >> ide1: I/O resource 0x376-0x376 not free.
> >> ide1: ports already in use, skipping probe
> >> --
> >> hang
> > 
> > what happens if you pull that dvd drive and boot? Looks to me like
> > you've got a nasty hardware conflict going on. I'd start with some
> > easy swaps like pulling that drive and then move up to futzing with
> > the bios.
> > 
> > its not much, but I hth.
> > 
> > A
> 
> Well ... to me it does not seem like a conflict in my hardware because
> as i said before Fedora 7, Opensuse 10.3 and Ubuntu Gutsy (BETA) seems
> to work perfectly well with this hardware configuration. Only Debian has
> trouble to work on it - can not even let the kernel boot. Then my
> conclusion is that it is Debian related and not hardware related. But
> strange because Ubuntu is for a big part also just Debian. Anyway thank
> you for your response.
> 
> 

whoops. I must have missed (and snipped) that. I assume the messages
above are from the kernel itself? 

Is it possible that you've got a bad initrd and that's causing the
problem? You could boot with a live-cd, chroot in and rebuild your
initrd maybe. 

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Re: SSH Question

2007-10-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 05:22:25PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> try putty for windows

no matter how much putty you apply, its still just windows! 



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computer freezes, no obvious reason

2007-10-11 Thread Kaloyan M. Penev
Hi,

I recently installed debian stable. Immediately after that I downloaded
and compiled myself the latest kernel version: 2.6.22.8. Since my machine
is quad core I enabled SMP and other things that seemed appropriate. The
system boots up and works almost fine, however I am experiencing the
following weird problems:

When I try to compile something with g++ every now and then I get the
following message:

./matrix.cpp:602: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.
For Debian GNU/Linux specific bug reporting instructions,
see .
The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem.

Also because I had to install the fglrx driver from the radeon web page
(v 8.41.7), which for some reason requires libstdc++5, and everything else
requires libstdc++6 when I compile opengl applications I get a warning
that there may be possible conflicts between libstdc++5 and libstdc++6 and
sometimes the compiled executable works and sometimes does not.

Also every now and then everything just freezes and the only thing left
for me to do is press the reset button. Looking at kern.log and syslog
shows nothing suspicious around the time this happens. I did search
through kern.log and syslog for suspicios messages and I have attached all
I found below (perhaps there are more):

kern.log:
potato kernel: No NUMA configuration found
potato kernel: Faking a node at -7fef
potato kernel: swsusp: Registered nosave memory region: 0009b000 -
0009c000

potato kernel: usb 2-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and
address 2 (this repeats many times while running, every few minutes if I
use the device)

potato kernel: ClientGUI[7156] general protection rip:2b6259cf66ce
rsp:7fff534bf4c0 error:0
potato kernel: ClientGUI[7296]: segfault at ffe8 rip
2b9d486c76d4 rsp 7fff64aecaf0 error 4
potato kernel: ClientGUI[8543] general protection rip:2b2c244416ce
rsp:7fff88d72d80 error:0
potato kernel: ClientGUI[8706]: segfault at 0110 rip
2b363e36c6ce rsp 7fff6ee47e50 error 4
(where ClientGUI is an opengl application that I am writing, uses
wxwidgets, gl and glu)

Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel: WARNING: at fs/buffer.c:570
__remove_assoc_queue()
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel: Call Trace:
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  []
drop_buffers+0xa4/0xec Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:
[] try_to_free_buffers+0x57/0x
9b
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  []
shrink_inactive_list+0x4ed/
0x83a
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  []
__pagevec_release+0x19/0x22
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  []
shrink_active_list+0x483/0x491
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  []
thread_return+0x0/0xdb Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:
[] shrink_zone+0xf4/0x11d
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  [] kswapd+0x2da/0x489
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  []
autoremove_wake_function+0x
0/0x2e
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  [] kswapd+0x0/0x489
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  [] kthread+0x47/0x75
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  [] child_rip+0xa/0x12
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  [] kthread+0x0/0x75
Oct  4 15:03:26 potato kernel:  [] child_rip+0x0/0x12


The same messages repeat of course in syslog.

The last simptom that I notice is that when I mount an external SATA over
USB disk it starts reading from the disk and it takes it about 30 sec to a
minute to stop (the same exact disk does not behave that way when I plug
it into another computer running debian).

In case it is interesting here is the output of lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation C55 Host Bridge (rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a2)
00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:01.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:01.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:01.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:01.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:01.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:01.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:01.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:02.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:02.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 03bc (rev a1)
00:02.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C55 Memory Controller (rev a1)
00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C55 PCI Express bridge (rev a1)
00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia C

Re: How to wifi with ipw3945 on Dell Vostro ???

2007-10-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 05:29:30AM -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> * Joost Kraaijeveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-10 19:43:48 +0200]:
> 
> > The card is recognised by the software and it even works somehow  (I can
> > see all the wifi networks in my building using wifi-radar). But whatever
> > I do I cannot get a  (DHCP) ip address from my Zyxel AP which is using a
> > WEP key (and it did when I still used Windows Vist so I know for a fact
> > that it is possible). 
> > 
> > Does anyone have any idea of how to get this card talking to my WEP AP?
> 
> I've found that NetworkManager is a good way for laptops.  Has a GUI
> applet, too.  For my main laptop, though, I add guessnet, ifupdown, and
> wpasupplicant to the mix.

I've been watching for some action on this thread as I have the same
chip giving me fits. It appears that I have to use the built-in keys
to turn the radio off and then back on to get it to actually wake up
and connect. Its been a little frustrating. I've also found Network
Manager to be unpredictable if not down right impossible to use. It
seems to be too smart for its own good sometimes. 

I've ended up having to use a different tool: wifi-radar and (shudder)
rebooting to get wireless to work. Typically, the dance I had to go
(this was on a cross coutnry trip -- different wireless in each hotel)
through was down all the interfaces, comment out the wired ethernet
from /etc/network/interfaces, reboot, then use wifi-radar to connect
entering appropriate keys etc. Sometimes I'd have to manually shutdown
the radio (as above) and bring it back up to get it to go.

I'm not convinced that my problems are necessarily with the
driver/interface but that cycling the radio thing suggests it might
be. 

I'm planning to wipe that lappy and start over anyway (need to use
encryption) so I'll start over from scratch on the wireless. If I get
anything useful I'll post it up.

.02

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using kde applet from gnome

2007-10-11 Thread abdelkader belahcene
Hi,
How to add to the bar a kde applet?
I installed kmoon (kde moon applet), I am running gnome, how to activate it.
thanks
bela


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[OT] Porting Qt3 -> Qt4

2007-10-11 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

If you have a large app., not so simple!

Big change: "...all painting must now be done from the paintEvent() 
function."


So if your Qt3 code paints from all over the place you now have a logic 
problem.


Anybody faced this?

I got into it because Qt's opensource for M$ is not Qt3 but Qt4 and so I 
started porting and big problems!


Hugo


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Can you help about udp?

2007-10-11 Thread chloe K
Hi all

I use linux as GiGE router and have 6 NIC on it
Those days the NIC interrupt takes around 100% CPU but the system is 4G memroy 
and 8 CPU. I can't see any error packet in this NIC interface too

After I block the udp, the %CPU drops. but the UDP only takes around 8M in 
general

We use UDP traffic for voice.

Do you have any suggestion ?  increase the kernel parameter?

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Re: Regarding tar and split

2007-10-11 Thread Sean Zimmermann
Douglas A. Tutty  porchlight.ca> writes:

> Tar archive isn't designed for this, since its designed for sequential
> devices.  Have you considered using another archive format?  Perhaps
> iso?  You can split and join iso files, mount them with loop mount,
> compress, burn, whatever.
> 
> Doug.

If I ignored the indexing issue (since most of my work with tar is large,
non-incremental backups where I typically restore the entire contents - 
it would be nice if there was indexing, but is not a huge problem), 
should I still use something other than tar? Right now, I use it to backup 
large files over multiple media, and tar's multipart feature allows me 
to do this without having to duplicate all of the files on my hard disk 
(though I have enough room to do this if I needed to). But if I were to 
use split instead of tar -M, and I don't need the archives indexed, should
I still switch to another archive format (cpio, ar, iso)? 

Also, if I give tar the --posix flag with -M, doesn't that make it so the 
archive does not use the gnu extensions and follows the standard format?

Thanks everyone for all of your help,
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Re: How to wifi with ipw3945 on Dell Vostro ???

2007-10-11 Thread Chris Ahlstrom
* Joost Kraaijeveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-10 19:43:48 +0200]:

> The card is recognised by the software and it even works somehow  (I can
> see all the wifi networks in my building using wifi-radar). But whatever
> I do I cannot get a  (DHCP) ip address from my Zyxel AP which is using a
> WEP key (and it did when I still used Windows Vist so I know for a fact
> that it is possible). 
> 
> Does anyone have any idea of how to get this card talking to my WEP AP?

I've found that NetworkManager is a good way for laptops.  Has a GUI
applet, too.  For my main laptop, though, I add guessnet, ifupdown, and
wpasupplicant to the mix.

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Re: umask don't change

2007-10-11 Thread Florian Lindner
Am Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2007 schrieb Douglas A. Tutty:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:03:37AM -0400, Roberto D'Oliveira wrote:
> > 2007/10/10, Florian Lindner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Hello, I have uncommented and modified to umask setting in
> > > ~/.bash_profile to:
> > >
> > > umask 077
> > >
> > > although I exit and re-login (with SSH) the umask stays 0022. What's
> > > wrong there?
> >
> > Try to write it on ~/.bashrc
>
> Or look through all the login config files and see where all the umask
> is being set.  Personally, I set mine with libpam-umask.

Yes, I know I can set in various places in /etc but I want to set it only for 
this user account and I want it to be changeable for the user.

Why does it not work when placed in ~./bashrc or ~/.bash_profile? I can set in 
in shell each time I have logged in and a source .bashrc also works.

Regards,

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Fixed : texmaker bug?

2007-10-11 Thread fabien

Update


The root gets the same message.
I actually miss a trick to monitor what's going on when I start the 
program. 


Do you mean "strace"?

Using strace, I could find the error comes from the infos in the init 
files :

Using brute force, that is replacing the content of
/user/.config/xm1/texmaker.conf

by the content of
/root/.config/xm1/texmaker.ini

fixed the bug.

Thanks,

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Re: Dell Vostro 1700 sound problem

2007-10-11 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 05:53:15 +0200, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 23:18 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > cat /dev/sndstat
> 
> asterix:~# cat /dev/sndstat
> Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.14 emulation code)
> Kernel: Linux asterix 2.6.22-2-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Aug 30 23:43:59 UTC 2007
> x86_64
> Config options: 0
> 
> Installed drivers: 
> Type 10: ALSA emulation
> 
> Card config: 
> --- no soundcards ---
> 
> Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
> 
> Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
> 
> Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
> 
> Timers:
> 7: system timer
> 
> Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Your system does not recognize the sound card; only the timer is
configured. (That matches what we saw in your /dev/snd/ directory.)

What are the error messages when you unload and reload the sound
modules? (see my previous mail)

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Re: Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-11 Thread Bob

Kenward Vaughan wrote:

On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 15:45 +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote:
  

Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


MSI K9A Platinum
http://products.amd.com/en-us/MotherboardDetail.aspx?id=28
  

I use this board with an AMD 3800 X2 . No problem.



Ditto here.  No issues, good board.
  


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Re: SSH Question

2007-10-11 Thread Miguel J. Jiménez

Telly Williams escribió:

On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 05:22:25PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
  

try putty for windows



Thank you.
  
Actually, to be able to connect from a linux machine to a windows 
machine you also need a ssh server (well, the same goes for the inverse) 
that does not come preinstalled in windows.


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Re: SSH Question

2007-10-11 Thread Telly Williams
On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 05:22:25PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> try putty for windows
> 
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Re: SSH Question

2007-10-11 Thread Alex Samad
try putty for windows

On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 01:20:52AM -0600, Telly Williams wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   I see some of you talking about SSHing into your computer from
>   another.  What if the computer you're
>   using isn't Linux/Unix?  I was thinking that you could reboot
>   that computer and boot up Puppy using a USB drive, or should/can
>   you do this through any shell irrespective of the OS?  Thanks.
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2007-10-11 Thread Telly Williams
Hi,

I see some of you talking about SSHing into your computer from
another.  What if the computer you're
using isn't Linux/Unix?  I was thinking that you could reboot
that computer and boot up Puppy using a USB drive, or should/can
you do this through any shell irrespective of the OS?  Thanks.

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