amd64 install hangs installing base system

[gcrimp]

Hi,

I'm trying to install 5.0.1, amd64 to an MSI motherboard with and Athlon 64
processor.  I get as far as installing the base system, then at 27%,
"extracting login" the system hangs.  Any thoughts?

The iso image passed and md5 check sum, and I tried burning it three times,
so I'm pretty sure there are no problems with the installation media.

Any suggestions as to the cause or how to work around it will be greatly
appreciated.  


Thanks,

g


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Re: how to retrieve bug reports for all installed packages ?

[Peter Jordan]

flomine, Thu Jun 04 2009 01:43:32 GMT+0200 (CEST):

Hi list,

I am using SID and I ask myself if there is a script or something to
list all critical bugs  from all installed packages. Maybe a script
using apt-listbugs  which retrieves bug reports on all packages present
in /var/cache/apt/arhives ? Or using the script  smxi?
The purpose is to be notified when critical bugs are reported after I
have done an upgrade of a package.
Thanks in advance for any idea.

flomine




try rc-alert from devscripts package

PJ


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Re: how to retrieve bug reports for all installed packages ?

[flomine]

Peter Jordan a écrit :
> flomine, Thu Jun 04 2009 01:43:32 GMT+0200 (CEST):
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I am using SID and I ask myself if there is a script or something to
>> list all critical bugs  from all installed packages. Maybe a script
>> using apt-listbugs  which retrieves bug reports on all packages present
>> in /var/cache/apt/arhives ? Or using the script  smxi?
>> The purpose is to be notified when critical bugs are reported after I
>> have done an upgrade of a package.
>> Thanks in advance for any idea.
>>
>> flomine
>>
>>
>
> try rc-alert from devscripts package
>
> PJ
>
>
Thank you

flomine


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Re: starting lxde with xdm

[Nuno Magalhães]

> then i installed xdm, make .xsession with exec xdm in it, rebooted but
> nothing happened
>
> which step that i missed

Mine's .Xsession, works well.

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DPkg::Pre-Invoke

[Peter Jordan]

Hello,

is it possible to pass the package name and package version to a script 
with DPkg::Pre-Invoke? If not, is there any other way?


PJ


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Re: [OT] Gmail posters! turn off html! (was: Re: How to improve performance on laptop?)

[Matus UHLAR - fantomas]

On 30.05.09 18:51, s. keeling wrote:
> Subject: [OT] Gmail posters! turn off html! (was: Re: How to improve
>   performance on laptop?)
> 
> This is a mailing list.  The text is all that's needed.  Thanks.

gmail even breaks plaintext parts of quoted text
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Re: What happened to network devices?

[Matus UHLAR - fantomas]

> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 11:55:11PM +0100, James Youngman wrote:
> > > So what did you use instead? I have never had trouble with using
> > > "eth0" or "/dev/eth0" before, so I didn't check if such a file
> > > existed. A network interface is a device which I expect to be
> > > represented under /dev.
> > 
> > Not so, at least on Linux.

On 03.06.09 10:51, lee wrote:
> Well, all devices are supposed to be available under /dev.

Who told you that? I have never heard of this and I work with linux since
1997...

> > Network interfaces are not represented as
> > any kind of file (and specifically not as device special files) on
> > Linux.
> 
> Why not? Afair they used to be --- and even if not, I'd expect them to
> be represented under /dev because all devices are supposed to be
> represented there.

you expect wrong. Why should they be there?

> >  For example, you cannot use open(2) or rename(2) on eth0.
> 
> It wouldn't make much sense if you could, would it?

That's just it. There's no reason to work with them as with files, so
there's no reason to have them on filesystem.

> > I've heard (mostly long ago, certainly before 1996) about Linux-based
> > systems where interfaces also have nodes under /dev, but I've never
> > heard of one where this is necessary.
> 
> Afair I started using Linux before 1996. Somehow, I expect /dev/eth0
> to be there as a matter of course. That's probably where it was last
> time I looked.

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Regarding Link Request for http://www.kangry.com

[Healing Water]

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We have visited your site http://www.kangry.com  and found it quite impressive.

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get hardware info through lspci

[Michael Casey]

I've recently read:

Linux Find Out If PCI Hardware Supported or Not In The Current Running
Kernel

So, if I:

grep 27d8 /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.pcimap

and see this:

snd-hda-intel0x8086 0x27d8 0x 0x 0x
0x 0x0

then it's sure that my PCI Hardware is supported? I Don't need anything to
do?
Is there a way for lsusb too?
How could I know that my hardware (connected to my pc or not) is supported?
- sorry for asking this: but is there a "devmgmt.msc" (windows..) "like"
software, solution under Linux, where can I see that is my pc's hardwares
recognized correctly?

Thank you

Re: how to retrieve bug reports for all installed packages ?

[flomine]

Peter Jordan a écrit :
> flomine, Thu Jun 04 2009 01:43:32 GMT+0200 (CEST):
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I am using SID and I ask myself if there is a script or something to
>> list all critical bugs  from all installed packages. Maybe a script
>> using apt-listbugs  which retrieves bug reports on all packages present
>> in /var/cache/apt/arhives ? Or using the script  smxi?
>> The purpose is to be notified when critical bugs are reported after I
>> have done an upgrade of a package.
>> Thanks in advance for any idea.
>>
>> flomine
>>
>>
>
> try rc-alert from devscripts package
>
> PJ
>
>
And is it possible to list bugs only for the version of  the installed 
packages (not for the last versions) ?
I tried rc-alert but it seems not possible to do such thing.
Thanks


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Automate ddclient installation

[Paulo Santos]

Hello everyone,

I was wondering how I could automate a ddclient installation. The 
default installation pops a ncurses wizard. Is there a way to avoid that?


I'm installing with apt-get install -y --force-yes --ignore-hold.
(Debian 4.0)

Thanks in advance,
Best regards,
Paulo Santos


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Re: Re: keyboard evdev

[Steve Vejcik]

Thanks again for the reply-hope this one goes through.
Below are the commands and responses.
Steve

ls -l /dev/input/by-id/

total 0lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jun  3 02:37 
usb-Chicony_Saitek_Eclipse_II_Keyboard-event-kbd -> ../event3


lshal --show $(hal-find-by-capability --capability input.mouse)

udi = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port_logicaldev_input'

 access_control.file = '/dev/input/event0'  (string)
 access_control.type = 'mouse'  (string)
 info.callouts.add = {'hal-acl-tool --add-device'} (string list)
 info.callouts.remove = {'hal-acl-tool --remove-device'} (string list)
 info.capabilities = {'input', 'input.mouse', 'access_control'} (string 
list)

 info.category = 'input'  (string)
 info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port' 
(string)

 info.product = 'ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse'  (string)
 info.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
 info.udi = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port_logicaldev_input' 
(string)

 input.device = '/dev/input/event0'  (string)
 input.originating_device = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port'  (string)

 input.product = 'ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse'  (string)
 input.x11_driver = 'evdev'  (string)
 linux.device_file = '/dev/input/event0'  (string)
 linux.hotplug_type = 2  (0x2)  (int)
 linux.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
 linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/class/input/input0/event0'  (string)


grep -Ev '^(#|$)' /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Section "Device"
Identifier "Configured Video Device"
EndSection 



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Re: Date always wrong after reboot. [SOLVED]

[Nuno Magalhães]

Solved it...

This wasn't related to the clock at all. I do cut power to the PC when
it's off and began wondering if that hat drained the CMOS battery, but
that would make BIOS settings reset, not advance the OS clock by one
hour. The CMOS time is correct in the BIOS.

While checking another issue (swap wouldn't mount) i discovered a lot
of programs, hwclock included, had 000 permissions in /sbin. Problem
solved. I believe it was Bastille leftovers.

Thank you for your rapid suggestions and time.
Nuno Magalhães

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Re: best practice for lvm?

[Alex Samad]

On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:53:52PM -0500, Zhengquan Zhang wrote:

[snip]

> > 
> > My typical setup for a hd (the first 2 or 3 drives in the machine is
> > 
> > /boot 500M
> > / 20G
> > LVM or raid device
> 
> In that case, the first 2 or 3 drives have separate /boot and / but you
> only use /boot and / on one of them?

no 

/dev/md0 => /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 raid1 + spare => /boot
/dev/md1 => /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdc2 raid1 + spare => /
/dev/md2 => /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdc2 raid5 = pv => vg => lv's


> 
> > 
> > I raid1 Partition on disk 1+2 and use disk 3 as hot spare. I do the same
> > for partition 2
> > 
> > 
> > for partition 3 I group together all the disk's in raid1 or raid5 or
> > raid 6 and then allocate that to lvm and then make up swap /var/log/
> > /home etc
> 
> Now I figured that your point is never use LVM over / . and LVM over
> raid for other partitions. 

I try never to place / on a LVM 
and to try and place LVM on some sort of raid
> 
> > 


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sitecopy 0.16.6-2

[Hans Gubitz]

sitecopy doesn't work any longer.

It just says: Could not connect to server.

(Debian/squeeze)


(sitecopy 0.16.6-1 on Debian/lenny works fine)

Any hints?

Hans




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Re: Regarding Link Request for http://www.kangry.com

[Cybe R. Wizard]

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:22:26 +0530
Healing Water  wrote:

> Description: I use a shower filter to take the chlorine out of my
> shower because I don't want it to absorb into my skin because it is
> cancerous.

If I had cancerous skin I wouldn't want those danged showers
soaking into it, either.

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Re: lvm on a single big partition or just a single big partition?

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:04:36PM -0500, Zhengquan Zhang wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 06:48:03PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 11:44:00AM -0500, Zhengquan Zhang wrote:
> > With one big partition, you lose the ability to:
> > 
> > -   have a separate /var (or /var/log) to keep logs from
> > filling up /
> > 
> > -   have different mount options (e.g. noexec, nodev) on
> > /home
> > 
> > -   have a separate /home
> > 
> > 
> > Without LVM, you lose the ability to :
> > 
> > -   resize partitions as needed
> > 
> > -   migrate data from one disk to another, e.g. if a drive
> > starts misbehaving but you need to keep the system live
> > rather than reinstalling/restoring.
> 
> Could you elaborate more on this? As far as migration is concerned, what
> is the advantage of LVM?

Your system is operating.  You start to get either SMART indications
that the drive is dying or errors (e.g. retries, times-out, etc) in
syslog.  You add a drive to the system at least as big as the failing
drive.  You make it a physical volume for LVM, and add it to the VG of
the failing drive.  You then tell LVM to remove the failing drive from
the LV.  LVM will migrate the data, extent by extent, from the old drive
to the new drive, all while the system is still active.  Its all in the
LVM-HOWTO (tldp, in the doc-linux-html package). 

> > Instead of a separate /boot, I often use a separate / (which contains
> > /boot).  In this way, the / partition isn't part of LVM (I make it 500
> > MB and usually only have under 200 MB used) and can be booted into if
> > the need arises, with more tools available than within the initrd.  Most
> > of my boxes won't boot a live CD.
> 
> So I guess for /tmp /var /usr etc you have separate LVs? or else a 500M
> / should be too small?

I put /tmp on tmpfs, with encrypted swap (so that /tmp ends up encrypted
also).  Yes, /usr (4G) , /var (4-6G, depending ), and /home (encrypted)
are on separate LVs.  Sizes depend on what I'm doing.  /usr mostly holds
instaled packages so 4G is fine for my desktop system.  

I also have /var/tmp and /var/local as separate LVs, encrypted.  I keep
my backups in /var/local.  KDE keeps lots of otherwise private stuff in
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info on network-connected web cameras, esp. config. and access protocols?

[Barclay, Daniel]

Does anyone here know of good articles/site about network-connected
web cameras, in particular, what protocols they use (what interface
they provide) for configuation and for access?

In particular:

For configuration, do they typically use an operating-system-independent
interface such as a built-in web server and web application (like an
HTML/HTTP-configured router), or do they use an operating-system-system
setup problem--oops, I meant to type "program," but "problem" fits too
well to correct with no comment first...--?

For access, what's their interface?  Is it just a server for some
video streaming protocol?  It is also an HTTP server serving an HTML
page that contain some object that refers to the video server's
access point?

Thanks,
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Re: Strange printing problem(s)

[andmalc]

Wayne Topa-4 wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> I gave attached the cupsd.conf & client.conf files.
> ...
> LogLevel warning
> ...
> 

Try changing the log level in cupsd.conf to debug and follow the log while
printing.  You may also turn on debug logging by running

sudo cupsctl --debug-logging

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A question about `aptitude purge' (was: Replacing a Debian package with the original source package)

[Rodolfo Medina]

I did:

 # aptitude purge mplayer

.  After that, the bash completion was still working for the `mplayer' command,
and besides the ~/.mplayer directory was still there.

Does this mean that not *all* the configuration stuff was removed, as supposed
`aptitude purge' to do?

Thanks
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Re: A question about `aptitude purge'

[Johannes Wiedersich]

Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> I did:
> 
>  # aptitude purge mplayer
> 
> .  After that, the bash completion was still working for the `mplayer' 
> command,
> and besides the ~/.mplayer directory was still there.
> 
> Does this mean that not *all* the configuration stuff was removed, as supposed
> `aptitude purge' to do?

All _global_ system configuration was removed (residing in /etc). Debian
(or aptitude in this case) will *never* remove anything from your /home.

You should do something like 'rm -rf .mplayer' yourself (or move the
folder to the trash, or ...)

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Re: apt pinning and getting linux-image-686 from unstable

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In , H.S. wrote:
>Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> In , emikaadeo wrote:
>>> H.S. wrote:
 Can somebody tell me if the following is possible using apt pinning? I
 want to install the newer version of kernel (linux-image-2.6-686, ver
 now is, I think, 2.6.29-3) from Untable to my Testing machine.

 I am thinking of using apt pinning.
>> If you are just following Squeeze/Sid then it's even simpler.  After
>> adding unstable to sources.list, set APT::Default-Release to "testing"
>> in apt.conf. Now testing will have a priority of 900, unstable will have
>> a priority of 500, and installed packages will (still) have a priority
>> of 100.
>
>So I don't need "Pin-Priority: -1" stanza at all?

Not based on my reading of your issue.

>On a related note,
>when is it required?

Never used it myself.
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Re: A question about `aptitude purge'

[Sven Joachim]

On 2009-06-04 18:16 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> I did:
>
>  # aptitude purge mplayer
>
> .  After that, the bash completion was still working for the `mplayer' 
> command,

That's because bash reads the completion code only once, when it starts
up.  Try starting a fresh shell, e.g. with "exec bash".

> and besides the ~/.mplayer directory was still there.

User files are outside of the package management's scope.  It is up to
you to delete or not delete them.

> Does this mean that not *all* the configuration stuff was removed, as supposed
> `aptitude purge' to do?

No, that does not mean it.

Sven


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Re: apt pinning and getting linux-image-686 from unstable

[Osamu Aoki]

On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 04:31:32PM -0400, H.S. wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Can somebody tell me if the following is possible using apt pinning? I
> want to install the newer version of kernel (linux-image-2.6-686, ver
> now is, I think, 2.6.29-3) from Untable to my Testing machine.

Please read:
 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_tweaking_candidate_version

> I am thinking of using apt pinning. I know that I need to set the
> default release to "testing" in apt.conf, add unstable sources to
> sources.list and then create /etc/apt/preferences file specifying the
> package I want from unstable and its priority. Something like:
> 
> ~$ cat /etc/apt/preferences
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=testing
> Pin-Priority: 700
> 
> Package: 
> Pin: release a=unstable
> Pin-Priority: 1000
> 
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=unstable
> Pin-Priority: -1
> 

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Re: how to retrieve bug reports for all installed packages ?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In <4a27a34f.1010...@gmail.com>, flomine wrote:
>Peter Jordan a écrit :
>> flomine, Thu Jun 04 2009 01:43:32 GMT+0200 (CEST):
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> I am using SID and I ask myself if there is a script or something to
>>> list all critical bugs  from all installed packages. Maybe a script
>>> using apt-listbugs  which retrieves bug reports on all packages present
>>> in /var/cache/apt/arhives ? Or using the script  smxi?
>> try rc-alert from devscripts package
>And is it possible to list bugs only for the version of  the installed
>packages (not for the last versions) ?
>I tried rc-alert but it seems not possible to do such thing.

1. Read 'man 1 rc-alert'.  Clearly, you can include/exclude distributions. 
Unless you are running a mixed or out-of-date system, that should be enough 
to filter to bugs that affect your system.

2. Read 'man 1 apt-listbugs'.  Clearly, you can limit the serveries of the 
bugs reported and, using either the 'apt' or 'list' command, control exactly 
which packages/versions are scanned for bugs.

This *might* do what you want:
aptitude search --disable-columns -F '%p/%V' '~i' | \
xargs /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs -s critical list

Please, the documentation wasn't made just to keep developers busy, read it 
sometime.
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mailining list deactivate

[mr...@prokon.cz]

Hi,
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Re: grub error 25

[andmalc]

Daryl Styrk wrote:
> 
> I got it going.. I cheated and used SuperGrub once I get to a computer
> that could burn a CD.. 
> 

Excellent.  You might want to try out editing the grub menu by pressing 'e'. 
It's pretty cool and worth knowing how to do.
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Re: mailining list deactivate

[Neal Hogan]

2009/6/4 mr...@prokon.cz 

> Hi,
> please, how can I deactivate this mailing list..
> thanks


I suspect you mean "unsubscribe." That is, you no longer want to be part of
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Scroll down to the bottom of this email and you'll get your answer.


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Re: mailining list deactivate

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> I suspect you mean "unsubscribe." That is, you no longer want to be part 
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Hey, I notice that that appears at the bottom of only some messages.
What would cause that (cause it not to appear for some message)?  HTML
mail?


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Re: What happened to network devices?

[lee]

On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 12:09:53PM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 11:55:11PM +0100, James Youngman wrote:
> > > > So what did you use instead? I have never had trouble with using
> > > > "eth0" or "/dev/eth0" before, so I didn't check if such a file
> > > > existed. A network interface is a device which I expect to be
> > > > represented under /dev.
> > > 
> > > Not so, at least on Linux.
> 
> On 03.06.09 10:51, lee wrote:
> > Well, all devices are supposed to be available under /dev.
> 
> Who told you that? I have never heard of this and I work with linux since
> 1997...

I've read that a long time ago. Who told you otherwise?

> > >  For example, you cannot use open(2) or rename(2) on eth0.
> > 
> > It wouldn't make much sense if you could, would it?
> 
> That's just it. There's no reason to work with them as with files, so
> there's no reason to have them on filesystem.

They are devices, and you need to be able to specify them. There's no
reason not to represent them.


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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

[lee]

On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 01:58:11PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> On Ter, 02 Jun 2009, lee wrote:
>> Ok, that's what they are saying. How do you know if it's true?
>
> You check the source.
>
> Oh, this is closed-source software. In this case, if you are not willing 
> to believe what the company behind it says, you should not use the 
> software.

I know that --- but how do I watch the videos then? Why don't the
browsers just convert them to something that can be watched with a
better player?


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Re: amd64 install hangs installing base system

[Victor Padro]

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:16 AM,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to install 5.0.1, amd64 to an MSI motherboard with and Athlon 64
> processor.  I get as far as installing the base system, then at 27%,
> "extracting login" the system hangs.  Any thoughts?
>
> The iso image passed and md5 check sum, and I tried burning it three times,
> so I'm pretty sure there are no problems with the installation media.
>
> Any suggestions as to the cause or how to work around it will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
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> Thanks,
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Please state your hardware specs.

Could be a hard drive failure?
Memory failure?

Do a memory test, and check your hard drive using any tool you may have.

Also try using a live CD to disgard any issue with hardware compability.

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Re: How do you get iceweasel (or another browser) to save what otherwise the flashplayer plays?

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

On Qui, 04 Jun 2009, lee wrote:

I know that --- but how do I watch the videos then? Why don't the
browsers just convert them to something that can be watched with a
better player?


Why should a browser convert a video? A browser is for surfing web  
pages, not for transcoding videos.



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Re: mailining list deactivate

[Neal Hogan]

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Barclay, Daniel  wrote:

>  Neal Hogan wrote:
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> What would cause that (cause it not to appear for some message)?  HTML
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Good question . . . reasonable guess . . . I dunno.
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Re: apt pinning and getting linux-image-686 from unstable

[H.S.]

Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 04:31:32PM -0400, H.S. wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Can somebody tell me if the following is possible using apt pinning? I
>> want to install the newer version of kernel (linux-image-2.6-686, ver
>> now is, I think, 2.6.29-3) from Untable to my Testing machine.
> 
> Please read:
>  
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_tweaking_candidate_version
> 
>> I am thinking of using apt pinning. I know that I need to set the
>> default release to "testing" in apt.conf, add unstable sources to
>> sources.list and then create /etc/apt/preferences file specifying the
>> package I want from unstable and its priority. Something like:
>> 
>> ~$ cat /etc/apt/preferences
>> Package: *
>> Pin: release a=testing
>> Pin-Priority: 700
>>
>> Package: 
>> Pin: release a=unstable
>> Pin-Priority: 1000
>>
>> Package: *
>> Pin: release a=unstable
>> Pin-Priority: -1
>> 
> 
> Quite wong ... 
> 
> 

I suppose you meant 'wrong'. What is the correction? How about the
following?

~$ cat /etc/apt/preferences
Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 200


and to use "-t" with the package I want.

Would this work in tracking the newer version of the kernel package from
unstable once I install it using -t?

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Re: apt pinning and getting linux-image-686 from unstable

[emikaadeo]

H.S. wrote:

> I suppose you meant 'wrong'. What is the correction? How about the
> following?
> 
> ~$ cat /etc/apt/preferences
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=testing
> Pin-Priority: 700
> 
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=unstable
> Pin-Priority: 200
> 
> 
> and to use "-t" with the package I want.
> 
> Would this work in tracking the newer version of the kernel package from
> unstable once I install it using -t?
> 

Yes. Once you installed kernel with -t from unstable aptitude will tracking 
any upgrades to this kernel. It will stop if the kernel migrates from 
unstable to testing.



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configuring postfix

[leonardo]

hey guys

How I can´t configure postfix to send incoming messages to a mailbox without 
use pop or imap


running the command "newaliases" don´t solve me nothing 



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Archive Signing Key

[abdelkader belahcene]

Hi,I saw in debian site,Debian Archive Signing Key to be changed  I have
install the lenny on my PC, have to change something if I installed a new
package,
Thanks for help

Re: keyboard evdev

[Florian Kulzer]

On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 06:00:34 -0500, Steve Vejcik wrote:
> Thanks again for the reply-hope this one goes through.
> Below are the commands and responses.
> Steve
>
> ls -l /dev/input/by-id/
>
> total 0lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jun  3 02:37  
> usb-Chicony_Saitek_Eclipse_II_Keyboard-event-kbd -> ../event3
>
> lshal --show $(hal-find-by-capability --capability input.mouse)
>
> udi =  
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port_logicaldev_input'
>  access_control.file = '/dev/input/event0'  (string)
>  access_control.type = 'mouse'  (string)
>  info.callouts.add = {'hal-acl-tool --add-device'} (string list)
>  info.callouts.remove = {'hal-acl-tool --remove-device'} (string list)
>  info.capabilities = {'input', 'input.mouse', 'access_control'} (string list)

[...]

>  input.device = '/dev/input/event0'  (string)
>  input.originating_device =  
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port'  (string)
>  input.product = 'ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse'  (string)
>  input.x11_driver = 'evdev'  (string)
>  linux.device_file = '/dev/input/event0'  (string)
>  linux.hotplug_type = 2  (0x2)  (int)
>  linux.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
>  linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/class/input/input0/event0'  (string)

So the mouse is /dev/input/event0. That probably means that the
event3/event4 double keyboard occurrence in your Xorg.0.log is not
necessarily cause for concern. Also, google turns up a number of xorg
log files with the same double entries. (I suspect that event4 is
related to the multimedia key on the keyboard.)

> grep -Ev '^(#|$)' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "Configured Video Device"
> EndSection 

Unfortunately, no clue here, either.

Earlier you mentioned that the problem started after a system upgrade.
Was the keyboard working with the evdev driver before, or was that
driver introduced for the first time during the same upgrade? Which
options did you have in the keyboard section of xorg.conf when you used
this keyboard with the "kbd" driver?

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Re: Archive Signing Key

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In <46688cb90906041115h38700102oeefc463b5fe11...@mail.gmail.com>, abdelkader 
belahcene wrote:
>Hi,I saw in debian site,Debian Archive Signing Key to be changed  I have
>install the lenny on my PC, have to change something if I installed a new
>package,
>Thanks for help

if sudo -v; then
sudo /bin/sh -c 'aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade'
else
echo >/dev/tty 'Root password required to update the system.' && \
su - -c 'aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade'
fi || {
echo >&2 'Problems updating the system.' && \
echo >&2 'Please ask for more assitance.' ;
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Re: Strange printing problem(s)

[Wayne Topa]

andmalc wrote:


Wayne Topa-4 wrote:

...

I gave attached the cupsd.conf & client.conf files.
...
LogLevel warning
...


 On Sid for these tests

Thanks for the reply!

Changed the loglevel to debug

No entries in the error_log when my user tries to print.  There are no 
errors show there at all regarding a failure to print.  (???)


Changed the lever to debug 2 and restarted cups.  More info in the log 
but still no errors shown.


Tried something different.
wt...@dj:~$ sudo a2ps zim_pages.txt
[zim_pages.txt (plain): 1 page on 1 sheet]
/usr/bin/lp: Error - scheduler not responding!
[Total: 1 page on 1 sheet] sent to the default printer

Maybe something new added in the 3 months I didn't use this box and I 
haven't loaded it.


Try changing the log level in cupsd.conf to debug and follow the log while
printing.  You may also turn on debug logging by running

sudo cupsctl --debug-logging



wt...@dj:~$ sudo cupsctl --debug-logging
cupsctl: Unable to connect to server: No route to host

It seems that might be why the error_log doesn't show any error.  The 
user account can't get to the cups server.  Now to figure out why!


I'm going to start a root X session and see if the X apps will print. 
That should narrow down the problems if that works.


Will report back when I get more data.

Thanks again!!

Wayne


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Re: Can't boot into Lenny from Etch partition

[Andrei Popescu]

On Wed,03.Jun.09, 22:56:55, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> 
> Fantastic.  At boot time, I pressed `c' and got a grub command line.  Then I
> entered those commands, the same written in menu.lst: root...,
> kernel... etcetera.  And... after the `kernel' line and `enter', grub produced
> the same error:
> 
>  Error 2: Bad file or directory type
> 
> As I said, those settings are copied from Lenny's menu.lst.  For a strange
> reason they don't work from Etch, neither by hand.

Ok, next you should try the tab-completion to find the correct file 
name. My guess is, once you have the correct filename you'll know what's 
wrong.

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Re: starting lxde with xdm

[Lorenzo Beretta]

Umarzuki Mochlis ha scritto:

i installed lxde with

aptitude install --without-recommends lxde

then i ran

update-alternatives --config x-session-manager


no startx, weird. Ran startlxde but nothing happened

then i installed xdm, make .xsession with exec xdm in it, rebooted but
nothing happened

which step that i missed



No offense, but you've misunderstood how it works:
1) xdm is started (by a script in /etc/init.d/, or whatever else)
2) you login at xdm
3) xdm reads your xsession/xinitrc and uses *that* to launch your 
session manager (the xinit manpage has a working example based on twm, 
but the idea is that it's just a shell script that launches lxde or 
whatever else)

4) You got a working session :D
5) google for more examples if you're still unsatisfied


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Re: best practice for lvm?

[Zhengquan Zhang]

On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 07:07:58AM +0100, Bhasker C V wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Zhengquan Zhang wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 08:23:05AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 01:46:27PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 In <20090603174408.ga25...@m364d1.ece.northwestern.edu>, Zhengquan Zhang
 wrote:
> Can I say the best practice for lvm is to create a single partition for
> the harddrive and single PV on it
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
 You definitely want separate LVs for any partition (non-system) users can
 write to, to avoid running out of space on your / partition.  I usually go
 overboard and have separate partitions for:
 /boot  # If / is on LVM; not LV
>>>
>>> I would suggest to never put / or /boot on a lvm partition and at most
>>> to put it on a raid1 set. Why incase something goes wrong, raid1 i much
>>> easier to dissect then lvm (and especially lvm on raid)
>>
>> Does that mean, lvm on raid is easier to dissect than lvm alone?
> Be it RAID or not. The easy and best-near-resurrection method
> would be to somehow backup the /etc/lvm periodically. This will help
> you to restore the LVM VGs and LVs safely. 

I already do daily backup of /etc, etc..

Thanks for pointing out the importance of this though, I never thought
/etc/lvm is that useful.


Zhengquan


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Re: mailining list deactivate

[Frank Lanitz]

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:24:42 -0500
Neal Hogan  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Barclay, Daniel 
> wrote:
> 
> >  Neal Hogan wrote:
> > Hey, I notice that that appears at the bottom of only some messages.
> > What would cause that (cause it not to appear for some message)?
> > HTML mail?
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> Good question . . . reasonable guess . . . I dunno.

Hint: MIME ails

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Re: Can't boot into Lenny from Etch partition

[Rodolfo Medina]

On Wed,03.Jun.09, 22:56:55, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
 
>> Fantastic.  At boot time, I pressed `c' and got a grub command line.  Then I
>> entered those commands, the same written in menu.lst: root...,
>> kernel... etcetera.  And... after the `kernel' line and `enter', grub
>> produced the same error:
>> 
>>  Error 2: Bad file or directory type
>> 
>> As I said, those settings are copied from Lenny's menu.lst.  For a strange
>> reason they don't work from Etch, neither by hand.



Andrei Popescu  writes:

> Ok, next you should try the tab-completion to find the correct file 
> name. My guess is, once you have the correct filename you'll know what's 
> wrong.


Pressing the TAB key produces the same error as above.  All the keyboard is
altered under that Grub prompt: e.g.: if i want to type `-' I have to type `?'
on my keyboard.  So the problem *might* be that the TAB key is associated to
something else.  *Might*, and it's impossible to me to find what.

Rodolfo


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Re: how to retrieve bug reports for all installed packages ?

[flomine]

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. a écrit :
>  flomine wrote:
>   
>> Peter Jordan a écrit :
>> 
>>> flomine, Thu Jun 04 2009 01:43:32 GMT+0200 (CEST):
>>>   
 Hi list,

 I am using SID and I ask myself if there is a script or something to
 list all critical bugs  from all installed packages. Maybe a script
 using apt-listbugs  which retrieves bug reports on all packages present
 in /var/cache/apt/arhives ? Or using the script  smxi?
 
>>> try rc-alert from devscripts package
>>>   
>> And is it possible to list bugs only for the version of  the installed
>> packages (not for the last versions) ?
>> I tried rc-alert but it seems not possible to do such thing.
>> 
>
> 1. Read 'man 1 rc-alert'.  Clearly, you can include/exclude distributions. 
> Unless you are running a mixed or out-of-date system, that should be enough 
> to filter to bugs that affect your system.
> 2. Read 'man 1 apt-listbugs'.  Clearly, you can limit the serveries of the 
> bugs reported and, using either the 'apt' or 'list' command, control exactly 
> which packages/versions are scanned for bugs.
>
> This *might* do what you want:
> aptitude search --disable-columns -F '%p/%V' '~i' | \
>   xargs /usr/sbin/apt-listbugs -s critical list
>
> Please, the documentation wasn't made just to keep developers busy, read it 
> sometime.
>   
yes I know, I read 'man rc-alert' before asking this question. 
Indeed, the reason of my problem is that sometimes I have an out-of-date
system. That's why I can't use 'rc-alert -d U'.
Your solution is what I was looking for.
Thanks


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Re: configuring postfix

[Rob McBroom]

On 2009-Jun-4, at 1:52 PM, leonardo wrote:

How I can´t configure postfix to send incoming messages to a mailbox  
without use pop or imap


All Postfix does is mail delivery. IMAP and POP can be used to read  
mail that has already been delivered. So, I guess I don't understand  
what you're asking.



running the command "newaliases" don´t solve me nothing


All that command does is read `/etc/aliases` and generate `/etc/ 
aliases.db` from it.


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Because it screws up the order in which people normally read text.

Original message:


Why is it bad to top-post your reply?






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Re: configuring postfix

[leonardo]

- Original Message - 
From: "Rob McBroom" 

To: "Debian User" 
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: configuring postfix


On 2009-Jun-4, at 1:52 PM, leonardo wrote:

How I can´t configure postfix to send incoming messages to a mailbox 
without use pop or imap


All Postfix does is mail delivery. IMAP and POP can be used to read
mail that has already been delivered. So, I guess I don't understand
what you're asking.


running the command "newaliases" don´t solve me nothing


All that command does is read `/etc/aliases` and generate `/etc/
aliases.db` from it.

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Because it screws up the order in which people normally read text.

Original message:


Why is it bad to top-post your reply?


so with the aliases configured postfix should send incoming mail in 
/var/mail/ folder?





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Re: Re: keyboard evdev

[Steve Vejcik]

That's right (meaning I wasn't using evdev before the upgrade). The relevant 
sections of xorg.conf looked like the following:


Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "kbd"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option  "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen  "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
EndSection


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AltGr broken in GTK apps (?) since yesterday's upgrade

[Davide Mancusi]

Running Sid. I upgraded some 400 packages yesterday and since
then the AltGr key has stopped working in some applications, notably
Iceweasel and Claws Mail (i.e. the applications I use 90% of the
time, of course). Specifically, when I press AltGr + any key, nothing
happens. Note that neither Iceweasel nor Claws were upgraded. Could it
be related to GTK?

Has anyone experienced the same behaviour?

Cheers,
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Re: configuring postfix

[Neal Hogan]

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:37 PM, leonardo  wrote:

>
> - Original Message - From: "Rob McBroom"  >
> To: "Debian User" 
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: configuring postfix
>
>
> On 2009-Jun-4, at 1:52 PM, leonardo wrote:
>
>  How I can´t configure postfix to send incoming messages to a mailbox
>> without use pop or imap
>>
>
> All Postfix does is mail delivery. IMAP and POP can be used to read
> mail that has already been delivered. So, I guess I don't understand
> what you're asking.
>
>  running the command "newaliases" don´t solve me nothing
>>
>
> All that command does is read `/etc/aliases` and generate `/etc/
> aliases.db` from it.
>
> --
> Rob McBroom
> 
>
> Because it screws up the order in which people normally read text.
>
> Original message:
>
>  Why is it bad to top-post your reply?
>>
>
> so with the aliases configured postfix should send incoming mail in
> /var/mail/ folder?


leonardo,

As Rob said, your questions are not very clear. You original post is
probably not getting much action because 1) it's not clear and 2)
configuring Postfix is such a basic/normal thing that it has been discussed
like crazy.

A simple google of 'debian postifix' lead to many, many, many how-to's,
manuals, general docs . . . the first of which is
http://wiki.debian.org/Postfix

Your freeBSD posts are very well recieved for the same reasons.

-Neal


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Re: configuring postfix

[Johannes Wiedersich]

Neal Hogan wrote:
> As Rob said, your questions are not very clear. You original post is
> probably not getting much action because 1) it's not clear and 2)
> configuring Postfix is such a basic/normal thing that it has been discussed
> like crazy.

3) it hijacked another thread.

4) there are manual pages, there also is the package 'postfix-doc' with
all the documentation. Please, the documentation wasn't made just to
keep developers busy, read it sometime.

Note, that there is a wikipedia page on what a MTA is and does, and
another one about postfix, including links to basic configuration.

Cheers,
Johannes

NB: Ah, yeah and of course
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=debian+postfix&l=1


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Re: keyboard evdev

[Florian Kulzer]

On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 15:29:12 -0500, Steve Vejcik wrote:
> That's right (meaning I wasn't using evdev before the upgrade). The 
> relevant sections of xorg.conf looked like the following:
>
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
> Driver  "kbd"
> Option  "CoreKeyboard"
> Option  "XkbRules" "xorg"
> Option  "XkbModel" "pc104"
> Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> EndSection

You could try to use this configuration again, provided that you still
have the xserver-xorg-input-kbd package installed. In that case you
should furthermore add

Section "ServerFlags"
   Option  "AllowEmptyInput"   "off"
   Option  "AutoAddDevices""off"
   Option  "AllowMouseOpenFail""true"
EndSection

to /etc/X11/xorg.conf to disable the HAL device discovery mechanism.
(You will probably also have to add a section for the mouse again.)

Another thing that might give us a clue is taking a closer look at the
second keyboard-type device (event4) that is mentioned in your Xorg log.
Please post the output of:

lshal --show $(hal-find-by-property --key "input.device" --string 
"/dev/input/event4")

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Re: mailining list deactivate

[Paul Johnson]

Frank Lanitz wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 11:24:42 -0500
> Neal Hogan  wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Barclay, Daniel 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Neal Hogan wrote:
>>> Hey, I notice that that appears at the bottom of only some messages.
>>> What would cause that (cause it not to appear for some message)?
>>> HTML mail?
>>>
>> Good question . . . reasonable guess . . . I dunno.
> 
> Hint: MIME ails
> 

Though there's no reason that the list couldn't tag on another text part
with the unsubscribe footer (though the bigger issue is why doesn't the
guy's mail reader support List-Unsubscribe and List-Subscribe headers in
the first place... it's 2009, they've been around for ~20 years now...).




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Re: best practice for lvm?

[Zhengquan Zhang]

On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 09:58:59PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:53:52PM -0500, Zhengquan Zhang wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > > 
> > > My typical setup for a hd (the first 2 or 3 drives in the machine is
> > > 
> > > /boot 500M
> > > / 20G
> > > LVM or raid device
> > 
> > In that case, the first 2 or 3 drives have separate /boot and / but you
> > only use /boot and / on one of them?
> 
> no 
> 
> /dev/md0 => /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 raid1 + spare => /boot
> /dev/md1 => /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdc2 raid1 + spare => /
> /dev/md2 => /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdc2 raid5 = pv => vg => lv's

Now I understand what you mean. So basically you do lvm on raid5 to get
a balance between storage space and redundancy.

> 
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > I raid1 Partition on disk 1+2 and use disk 3 as hot spare. I do the same
> > > for partition 2
> > > 
> > > 
> > > for partition 3 I group together all the disk's in raid1 or raid5 or
> > > raid 6 and then allocate that to lvm and then make up swap /var/log/
> > > /home etc
> > 
> > Now I figured that your point is never use LVM over / . and LVM over
> > raid for other partitions. 
> 
> I try never to place / on a LVM 
> and to try and place LVM on some sort of raid

So you use LVM on raid to help you better cope with hard drive failures.

I understand now.

Thanks Alex!

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Re: lvm on a single big partition or just a single big partition?

[Zhengquan Zhang]

On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 09:39:42AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:04:36PM -0500, Zhengquan Zhang wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 06:48:03PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 11:44:00AM -0500, Zhengquan Zhang wrote:
> > > With one big partition, you lose the ability to:
> > > 
> > >   -   have a separate /var (or /var/log) to keep logs from
> > >   filling up /
> > >   
> > >   -   have different mount options (e.g. noexec, nodev) on
> > >   /home
> > > 
> > >   -   have a separate /home
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Without LVM, you lose the ability to :
> > > 
> > >   -   resize partitions as needed
> > > 
> > >   -   migrate data from one disk to another, e.g. if a drive
> > >   starts misbehaving but you need to keep the system live
> > >   rather than reinstalling/restoring.
> > 
> > Could you elaborate more on this? As far as migration is concerned, what
> > is the advantage of LVM?
> 
> Your system is operating.  You start to get either SMART indications
> that the drive is dying or errors (e.g. retries, times-out, etc) in
> syslog.  You add a drive to the system at least as big as the failing
> drive.  You make it a physical volume for LVM, and add it to the VG of
> the failing drive.  You then tell LVM to remove the failing drive from
> the LV.  LVM will migrate the data, extent by extent, from the old drive
> to the new drive, all while the system is still active.  Its all in the
> LVM-HOWTO (tldp, in the doc-linux-html package). 

This is fantastic, I have read the howto but obviously did not notice
this part.

> 
> > > Instead of a separate /boot, I often use a separate / (which contains
> > > /boot).  In this way, the / partition isn't part of LVM (I make it 500
> > > MB and usually only have under 200 MB used) and can be booted into if
> > > the need arises, with more tools available than within the initrd.  Most
> > > of my boxes won't boot a live CD.
> > 
> > So I guess for /tmp /var /usr etc you have separate LVs? or else a 500M
> > / should be too small?
> 
> I put /tmp on tmpfs, with encrypted swap (so that /tmp ends up encrypted
> also).  Yes, /usr (4G) , /var (4-6G, depending ), and /home (encrypted)
> are on separate LVs.  Sizes depend on what I'm doing.  /usr mostly holds
> instaled packages so 4G is fine for my desktop system.  
> 
> I also have /var/tmp and /var/local as separate LVs, encrypted.  I keep
> my backups in /var/local.  KDE keeps lots of otherwise private stuff in
> /var/tmp.

Great setup, Thanks, Doug, so do you how much space(PE) do you leave
unassigned for later use?

> 
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lenny install through apt-proxy

[mike]

Has anyone installed lenny, with a netinst cd, going to a server running 
apt-proxy  to get packages? or is it better to put in a proxy server and 
do the initial install that way?

are there any tips ?

thanks
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gnome accessibility update

[Jude DaShiell]

I just managed to install gnome-orca again and gnome-accessibility too and 
in a little bit I'll find out how nicely they'll play together.  Two notes 
though on these recent updates for the package builders.  1) The 
gnome-accessibility package is an essential prerequisite for gnome-orca 
without it gnome-orca goes silent.  2) in one of the package's 
installation scripts the command print-installation-architecture was 
found.  That is now an obsolete command and ought to be changed to 
print-architecture or so debian squeeze tells me at installation time. 
The command I used to do all of this is essential to know; aptitude 
install gnome-audio gnome-accessibility gnome-orca -r. was what got it all 
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How many users will fall for my Disposition-Notification-To?

[jidanni]

Fellas, what happens when I put a Disposition-Notification-To: m...@...
header at the top of my mail? Yes I know all about the protocol,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_receipt#Message_Disposition_Notifications
I'm just curious about how many users will "fall" for my
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_bug From what I've seen, about half the
users' computers I send such a header to send back acknowledgements, and
the other half don't. When I ask the half that do if they noticed
anything, they say "noticed what?" I haven't asked the half that don't,
so I'll ask this list instead. Of course I wouldn't put such a header on
this message, lest I DOS attack myself (as there are many lurkers using
other leading brand MUAs...). I only put it on when there is some old
professor who hasn't replied to my mail for a long time, and I want to
be sure he is still ticking. By the way, I would post to a more
specialized list but my question is not up to snuff for them.
P.S., please give instructions for any of those other leading brand MUA
users on how to turn off sending acknowledgements, at least without consent.


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Re: get hardware info through lspci

[Kelly Clowers]

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 03:15, Michael Casey  wrote:
> I've recently read:
>
> Linux Find Out If PCI Hardware Supported or Not In The Current Running
> Kernel
>
> So, if I:
>
> grep 27d8 /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/modules.pcimap
>
> and see this:
>
> snd-hda-intel    0x8086 0x27d8 0x 0x 0x
> 0x 0x0
>
> then it's sure that my PCI Hardware is supported? I Don't need anything to
> do?
> Is there a way for lsusb too?
> How could I know that my hardware (connected to my pc or not) is supported?
> - sorry for asking this: but is there a "devmgmt.msc" (windows..) "like"
> software, solution under Linux, where can I see that is my pc's hardwares
> recognized correctly?

You don't need to do all that roundabout nonsense. Just use lspci -v and look
for the device in question and look for the "Kernel driver in use"
line. Note that
a few devices, notably the video card, will not have a driver listed
even if working.

An example from my computer:

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
Controller (rev 02)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device d701
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22
Memory at e032 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: 
Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel

The last line says "Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel". That means that the kernel
sees the device and that the HDA Intel driver has been loaded for it.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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SOLVED, Re: amd64 install hangs installing base system

[gcrimp]

On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 11:11:22AM -0500, Victor Padro wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:16 AM,  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to install 5.0.1, amd64 to an MSI motherboard with and Athlon 64
> > processor.  I get as far as installing the base system, then at 27%,
> > "extracting login" the system hangs.  Any thoughts?
> >
> > The iso image passed and md5 check sum, and I tried burning it three times,
> > so I'm pretty sure there are no problems with the installation media.
> >
> > Any suggestions as to the cause or how to work around it will be greatly
> > appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > g
> >
> Please state your hardware specs.
> 
> Could be a hard drive failure?
> Memory failure?

Yep.

> 
> Do a memory test, and check your hard drive using any tool you may have.
> 

Thing is, I ran memtest86+ last night but it the computer froze midway
through test #3 of the first pass.  I assumed it was because I was running
a 32 bit version of memtest on a 64 bit architecture, but lacking anything
better to try, I ran it again.  Sure enough, there was a bad stick.  It was
a bit surprising since the memory recently tested fine in another machine.

Anyway, prob solved.  Thanks for your suggestions.

gc

> Also try using a live CD to disgard any issue with hardware compability.
> 
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> 
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> servidas"
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pptp on a virtual machine

[Toba]

Hello,
I try to install pptpd on a virtual machine but it fails when I try to log in.
syslog said: 

Jun  5 01:39:07 vps2 pptpd[545]: CTRL: Starting call (launching pppd, opening 
GRE)
Jun  5 01:39:07 vps2 pppd[546]: Plugin /usr/lib/pptpd/pptpd-logwtmp.so loaded.
Jun  5 01:39:07 vps2 pppd[546]: This system lacks kernel support for PPP.  
This could be because the PPP kernel module could notbe loaded, or because PPP 
was not included in the kernel configuration.  If PPP was included as a module, 
try `/sbin/modprobe -vppp'.  If that fails, check that ppp.o exists in 
/lib/modules/`uname -r`/net. See README.linux file in the ppp distribution for 
more details.
Jun  5 01:39:07 vps2 pptpd[545]: GRE: read(fd=6,buffer=8058640,len=8196) from 
PTY failed: status = -1 error = Input/output error, usually caused by 
unexpected termination of pppd, check option syntax and pppd logs
Jun  5 01:39:07 vps2 pptpd[545]: CTRL: PTY read or GRE write failed 
(pty,gre)=(6,7)
Jun  5 01:39:07 vps2 pptpd[545]: CTRL: Reaping child PPP[546]


But there is nothing in /lib/modules

vps2:~# ls /lib/modules/
vps2:~#
vps2:~# uname -a
Linux vps2.samyount.info 2.6.24-vz-hostnoc-4.0.0-i386-libata #1 SMP Wed Dec 3 
19:08:12 EST 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
vps2:~#

So how can I install ppp module?

Thanks in advance,

Toba


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Re: SOLVED, Re: amd64 install hangs installing base system

[Dave Witbrodt]

gcr...@vcn.bc.ca wrote:

Thing is, I ran memtest86+ last night but it the computer froze midway
through test #3 of the first pass.  I assumed it was because I was running
a 32 bit version of memtest on a 64 bit architecture, but lacking anything
better to try, I ran it again.  Sure enough, there was a bad stick.  It was
a bit surprising since the memory recently tested fine in another machine.

Anyway, prob solved.  Thanks for your suggestions.


Not to be disagreeable, but I had a bad experience with memtest86+ when 
I added a second 2x2GB set to my first 2x2GB set.  The memtest86+ would 
fail with all 8GB inserted, but would pass with either 4GB set inserted.


I tried an alternative, memtester, and it ran through all of the 8GB it 
could access just fine.  I've been running 8GB on this desktop for over 
a year with not problems at all, so it was just a bug in memtest86+ ... 
no doubt related to some hardware incompatibility with my particular parts.


The experience you are describing sounds quite similar, so I hope your 
conclusion that you had bad memory was correct!



Dave W.


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Re: How many users will fall for my Disposition-Notification-To?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri,05.Jun.09, 09:00:21, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> Fellas, what happens when I put a Disposition-Notification-To: m...@...
> header at the top of my mail? Yes I know all about the protocol,
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_receipt#Message_Disposition_Notifications
> I'm just curious about how many users will "fall" for my
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_bug From what I've seen, about half the
> users' computers I send such a header to send back acknowledgements, and
> the other half don't. When I ask the half that do if they noticed
> anything, they say "noticed what?" I haven't asked the half that don't,

At least the first time, Outlook will ask before sending a "read 
receipt", but the same dialog box also has an "always" checkbox, so if 
you check that receipts will be sent without you knowing.

As far as I can tell, mutt doesn't have any support for this, but I 
think I could make something up using colors and macros ;)

Regards,
Andrei
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