Re: Installing Linux on a Mac Mini without OSX

2014-12-30 Thread Brian Sammon
On Thu, 4 Dec 2014 13:25:37 -0500
Brian Sammon  wrote:

> I was recently given a Mac Mini (Intel Mid 2007) that had been wiped.
...
> Is there a way to install Debian/Linux on this machine that doesn't involve 
> buying or borrowing (or "borrowing") a copy of OSX?  Is it easier to install 
> linux on a USB disk and run it off of that?

As a followup, I got Linux installed on it, but not (quite) Debian.
I burned a CD of the Ubuntu Trusty "+mac" image.  It booted and installed Linux 
and Grub successfully on the first try.
Some things I noticed:
  It used version 2.02 of grub, which is newer than that used in the Wheezy I
  tried.
  The Ubuntu installer (somewhat strongly) encouraged me to create a
  "Reserved BIOS boot area" partition.  I followed that advice.
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that most/all of the features that helped with 
Trusty are also found in Jessie.

Now that I have a bootloader installed, I think I'll have more success 
installing Debian on it.

> Two particular subtasks that I may need to do that seem to require OSX:
> 1) "Blessing" a partition

Recent versions of GRUB come with a "grub_macbless" command, but I haven't 
tested it.

> 2) Checking what version of firmware it has (some versions have BIOS
>compatibility)

The Boot CD for rEFInd (http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/) reported a firmware 
version number, but it was a very different format from the firmware versions 
on Apple's site.
For upgrading firmware without MacOSX, the "Firmware Restoration CD" might be 
the thing: http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201518
This was apparently moot for my Mac Mini, as Apple's website doesn't list any 
available firmware updates for my model.


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Re: Question about MultiArch and dependencies

2014-12-30 Thread Ric Moore

On 12/31/2014 12:25 AM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 30/12/14 06:47 PM, Raphaël Halimi wrote:

Le 30/12/2014 17:23, Gary Dale a écrit :

Then again, knowing how to ask a question is also important. It would

Then again, not everybody is born in an english-speaking country.


seem that your real concern is having two terminals on the menu.

It is _one_ of my concerns. The other one being apt not resolving these
dependencies the way I expected it to. Unlike you, Sven understood the
question immediately and unlike you, he gave an appropriate answer. I
filed a bug report against mate-terminal. Problem solved.


However, did you actually test that it would happen? Would installing
the multiarch version give you two xterms or would the last one
installed overwrite the first?

Could you simply remove the second menu item if one did in fact show up?

Did you try removing the mate version of xterm before installing the one
steam prefers?

What does it have to do with my initial question about dependencies
resolving ? Stop trying to justify yourself and just admit you were
gratuitously rude to someone you mistook for a newbie.


There is an old saying that it is better to light one candle than to
curse the darkness. If you want to report a bug, report it. If you want
a solution to a problem, ask for help.

I'd like to find out what happens if you try the solutions that I have
suggested. I've got multiple terminals on my setup and it's never
bothered me. I use the one I like most. That's a nice thing about Linux.
But you apparently feel differently. That's also your choice. Has your
bug report been addressed yet?


I thought that was a feature, where you can just download all the things 
for free. You all made me look. I have installed:

Gnome Term  1155k
XFCE Term   1559k
Xterm   1750k

For what I pay the packagers, I can live with it. I think the points 
Dale raised were not disrespectful in any way. Maybe multiarch pulled in 
a 32bit xterm? That is quite possible. You would need one ya know, 
running 32bit apps one of them, like steam, would probably demand it. 
Just checked, steam does. But you already knew that.  :) Ric



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Jumbo frame Debian Wheezy.

2014-12-30 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
i am trying to enable jumbo frame on Debian wheezy however nothing works.

i ran a command "ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000"

and receive "invalid argument"

then i edit /etc/network/interfaces and added "mtu 9000"
when i ifdown and ifup eth0
it shows the same error "invalid argument"

Please help.

Thanks,
Yousuf


Re: Question about MultiArch and dependencies

2014-12-30 Thread Gary Dale

On 30/12/14 06:47 PM, Raphaël Halimi wrote:

Le 30/12/2014 17:23, Gary Dale a écrit :

Then again, knowing how to ask a question is also important. It would

Then again, not everybody is born in an english-speaking country.


seem that your real concern is having two terminals on the menu.

It is _one_ of my concerns. The other one being apt not resolving these
dependencies the way I expected it to. Unlike you, Sven understood the
question immediately and unlike you, he gave an appropriate answer. I
filed a bug report against mate-terminal. Problem solved.


However, did you actually test that it would happen? Would installing
the multiarch version give you two xterms or would the last one
installed overwrite the first?

Could you simply remove the second menu item if one did in fact show up?

Did you try removing the mate version of xterm before installing the one
steam prefers?

What does it have to do with my initial question about dependencies
resolving ? Stop trying to justify yourself and just admit you were
gratuitously rude to someone you mistook for a newbie.

There is an old saying that it is better to light one candle than to 
curse the darkness. If you want to report a bug, report it. If you want 
a solution to a problem, ask for help.


I'd like to find out what happens if you try the solutions that I have 
suggested. I've got multiple terminals on my setup and it's never 
bothered me. I use the one I like most. That's a nice thing about Linux. 
But you apparently feel differently. That's also your choice. Has your 
bug report been addressed yet?



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Re: Fwd: Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/30/2014 10:07 PM, William Unruh wrote:
>>
>> On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
>>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
 The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life
 outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or
 interested) in spending their life working on Linux.
>>>
>>> If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire people
>>> to work on the bits of Debian that matter to them. Pretty much everyone
>>> who is serious about using Debian in production does this.
>>>
>>
>> That's a great idea.  Who's going to pay these people - you?
> 
> They apparently pay you.
> Who pays the hardware people who design the boards/etc? 
>

Yes, they pay me because the device drivers are custom (and
proprietary).  Nothing exists in public or other private hands.

And they have EE's who design the electronics.  But that is a different
division.

You seem to think money is unending.  It isn't, believe me.  They have
budgets, and must stay within them.  There is no money available to hire
consultants to maintain a distro.

Of course, there's another option (and only one other one).  The company
could go out of business.  Then the problem would go away.

>>
>> My clients are not IT folks.  They don't need Debian per say - they DO
>> need Linux.  And, like all companies, they have a limited budget for
>> software implementations.
> 
> Fair enough, but then if it is critical to their business, they will
> have to pay. 
> 

You don't get it, do you.  THERE IS NO MONEY TO PAY!

> ...
>>
>> Again - these companies are not NOT IT companies.  They are
>> manufacturers of equipment.  Right now, Debian just happens to be the
> 
> But now adays, software it the largest part of an equipment business. To
> say they do not have software people is to say they do not have a
> business. 
> 

Maybe YOUR businesses.  Not all, by any means.  And in these companies,
software is only a very SMALL part of their business.  Even the
electronics is a small part of the business.  The money is in the
equipment being controlled.

>> distribution they are using.  Yes, they have a couple of people familiar
>> with Linux administration, but that's about it.  And these administering
>> Linux is only a very small part of their job.  That's why they hire
>> people like me to write specific device drivers and other software.  But
>> they are not going to spend money hiring consultants to work on the OS.
> 
> But they need to adapt the software for their use. 
> That is a critical part of their business. In fact it is the part that
> sets them apart from all their competitors. Hardware is easy these days. 
> 

Electronic hardware is easy.  But that isn't these company's business.
That what you guys don't understand.

Consider an automobile.  It has a computer to control the car.  But that
computer is maybe a $500 part in a $35K machine.  Sure, new cars NEED
that computer.  But it is one of the least important parts of the car.
The engine, body, interior, handling and a couple of dozen other things
are much more important to the buyer.  And that's where the money goes.
 The computer is the minimum necessary to do the job.

Although my clients are not automobile manufacturers, the comparison
applies.

>>
>> They could use pretty much any distro.  They liked Debian because of its
>> stability.  But they don't NEED Debian.  If they wanted to spend lots of
>> time trying to maintain the OS, they would have gone to slackware.
> 
> Whether Debian is the best choice for them is of course something they
> will have to decide. It is modular, stable, conservative, old
> fashioned,... 
> 
> ??? 
> 
> 

And its continued stability is seriously being questions.


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Fwd: Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread William Unruh
>
>On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life
>>> outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or
>>> interested) in spending their life working on Linux.
>> 
>> If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire people
>> to work on the bits of Debian that matter to them. Pretty much everyone
>> who is serious about using Debian in production does this.
>>
>
>That's a great idea.  Who's going to pay these people - you?

They apparently pay you.
Who pays the hardware people who design the boards/etc? 

>
>My clients are not IT folks.  They don't need Debian per say - they DO
>need Linux.  And, like all companies, they have a limited budget for
>software implementations.

Fair enough, but then if it is critical to their business, they will
have to pay. 

...
>
>Again - these companies are not NOT IT companies.  They are
>manufacturers of equipment.  Right now, Debian just happens to be the

But now adays, software it the largest part of an equipment business. To
say they do not have software people is to say they do not have a
business. 

>distribution they are using.  Yes, they have a couple of people familiar
>with Linux administration, but that's about it.  And these administering
>Linux is only a very small part of their job.  That's why they hire
>people like me to write specific device drivers and other software.  But
>they are not going to spend money hiring consultants to work on the OS.

But they need to adapt the software for their use. 
That is a critical part of their business. In fact it is the part that
sets them apart from all their competitors. Hardware is easy these days. 

>
>They could use pretty much any distro.  They liked Debian because of its
>stability.  But they don't NEED Debian.  If they wanted to spend lots of
>time trying to maintain the OS, they would have gone to slackware.

Whether Debian is the best choice for them is of course something they
will have to decide. It is modular, stable, conservative, old
fashioned,... 

??? 


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Re: multiple versions of python

2014-12-30 Thread Rusi Mody
On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 12:00:05 AM UTC+5:30, Boruch Baum wrote:
> Thanks. Are you recommending virtualenv from experience having used it,
> or from heresay? 


In general there is a spectrum for resources 
In decreasing order of weight
1. Buy a new machine
2. Use a VM
3. Use docker
4. Use virtualenv

You may find 3 suitable:
https://www.docker.com/

There are probably more points in the spectrum between 2 and 3
[chroot jails??]




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Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/30/2014 5:49 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life
>> outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or
>> interested) in spending their life working on Linux.
> 
> If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire people
> to work on the bits of Debian that matter to them. Pretty much everyone
> who is serious about using Debian in production does this.
>

That's a great idea.  Who's going to pay these people - you?

My clients are not IT folks.  They don't need Debian per say - they DO
need Linux.  And, like all companies, they have a limited budget for
software implementations.

> If they (or anyone else) is interested in doing this, there are numerous
> people who could be hired straight off of the consultants list. If they
> (or anyone else) is having a hard time finding contributors to fund,
> contact lea...@debian.org.
>

And you're going to pay those consultants, right?

>> And they are concerned enough with the way Debian is moving to make
>> the investment in switching. Better to do it now, when they have time,
>> than later when they find out they have to switch quickly.
> 
> If they have already decided to switch, then they should start
> contributing to whatever distribution they're going to switch to.
> 

And you're going to pay for these consultants?

Again - these companies are not NOT IT companies.  They are
manufacturers of equipment.  Right now, Debian just happens to be the
distribution they are using.  Yes, they have a couple of people familiar
with Linux administration, but that's about it.  And these administering
Linux is only a very small part of their job.  That's why they hire
people like me to write specific device drivers and other software.  But
they are not going to spend money hiring consultants to work on the OS.

They could use pretty much any distro.  They liked Debian because of its
stability.  But they don't NEED Debian.  If they wanted to spend lots of
time trying to maintain the OS, they would have gone to slackware.

Jerry


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Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Don Armstrong  wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life
>> outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or
>> interested) in spending their life working on Linux.
>
> If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire people
> to work on the bits of Debian that matter to them.

I have to admit, this is a thought that has been on my mind lately.

> Pretty much everyone
> who is serious about using Debian in production does this.

Unfortunately, I don't think that's exactly true, for some defintions
of "serious".

Lots of companies think they are serious about using Linux, but not
feeding their profits back upstream.

On the contrary, they tend to be trying to use the (imaginary, but
much touted) cost differential as a competitive wedge, pushing down
their profits and squeezing the market. Killing the goose that laid
the golden egg.

Not facing up to the freedom vs. zero (initial) cost dillemma. Not
really serious even though they are seriously thinking they are
serious.

(Yeah, I'm sort of looking at myself in the mirror, as an individual.
I don't contribute as much as I should because it has been too easy to
get distracted, playing with all the zero initial cost stuff.)

> If they (or anyone else) is interested in doing this, there are numerous
> people who could be hired straight off of the consultants list. If they
> (or anyone else) is having a hard time finding contributors to fund,
> contact lea...@debian.org.
>
>> And they are concerned enough with the way Debian is moving to make
>> the investment in switching. Better to do it now, when they have time,
>> than later when they find out they have to switch quickly.
>
> If they have already decided to switch, then they should start
> contributing to whatever distribution they're going to switch to.

And I'm thinking that, if more of the people who think they are
serious about FOSS had been taking the duties of freedom more
seriously, the systemd debacle might have been avoided. (By making
more work generalizing the several init approaches publically
available, and by making the inits more interchangeable, more
manageable by people who don't have time to learn shell scripting --
although managers scared of learning programming languages is yet
another manifestation of the problem.)

I'm moving to openbsd partly to make sure I start contributing. (Also
because I see too many devs in the debian community who either don't
want to learn programming or whose ideas about programming are
diametrically opposed to what I think is my experience.)

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Look first in your own heart,
and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy.
Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well.


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Re: Question about MultiArch and dependencies

2014-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 30 December 2014 23:47:18 Raphaël Halimi wrote:
> Stop trying to justify yourself

Pot and kettle???

Lisi


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Re: Question about MultiArch and dependencies

2014-12-30 Thread Raphaël Halimi
Le 30/12/2014 17:23, Gary Dale a écrit :
> Then again, knowing how to ask a question is also important. It would

Then again, not everybody is born in an english-speaking country.

> seem that your real concern is having two terminals on the menu.

It is _one_ of my concerns. The other one being apt not resolving these
dependencies the way I expected it to. Unlike you, Sven understood the
question immediately and unlike you, he gave an appropriate answer. I
filed a bug report against mate-terminal. Problem solved.

> However, did you actually test that it would happen? Would installing 
> the multiarch version give you two xterms or would the last one 
> installed overwrite the first?
> 
> Could you simply remove the second menu item if one did in fact show up?
> 
> Did you try removing the mate version of xterm before installing the one 
> steam prefers?

What does it have to do with my initial question about dependencies
resolving ? Stop trying to justify yourself and just admit you were
gratuitously rude to someone you mistook for a newbie.

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Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> The people there have enough to do at work, and like to have a life
> outside of work. Believer it or not, not everyone is capable (or
> interested) in spending their life working on Linux.

If Debian is important to their business, then they should hire people
to work on the bits of Debian that matter to them. Pretty much everyone
who is serious about using Debian in production does this.

If they (or anyone else) is interested in doing this, there are numerous
people who could be hired straight off of the consultants list. If they
(or anyone else) is having a hard time finding contributors to fund,
contact lea...@debian.org.

> And they are concerned enough with the way Debian is moving to make
> the investment in switching. Better to do it now, when they have time,
> than later when they find out they have to switch quickly.

If they have already decided to switch, then they should start
contributing to whatever distribution they're going to switch to.

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Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/30/2014 9:45 AM, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> I should also add - that's why they are looking at other distros now.
>> They are planning to stay on Wheezy as long as possible. It will
>> probably take two years for them to get another distro ready for
>> production.
> 
> If switching to systemd is their main concern, then they can just stay
> with SysV for jessie. They should probably also consider contributing
> developer time (or your time) to the continued support of SysV in
> jessie+1 (and beyond.)
> 
> If they want to stick with wheezy for other reasons, they should help
> make squeeze LTS a success so people are more likely to also contribute
> to wheezy LTS when it is inevitably EOLed by the stable security team.
> 
> If it's something else that bothers them, the way to influence Debian is
> to do the work.
> 

Don, that's a good, but impractical idea.  The people there have enough
to do at work, and like to have a life outside of work.  Believer it or
not, not everyone is capable (or interested) in spending their life
working on Linux.

And they are concerned enough with the way Debian is moving to make the
investment in switching.  Better to do it now, when they have time, than
later when they find out they have to switch quickly.

Jerry


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Re: Help me run an old Windows game. PlayOnLinux? Wine?

2014-12-30 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Kevin O'Gorman  [2014-12-29 14:58 -0800]:

> I have an image of the old Windows 98 Entertainment Pack floppy.  I'd like
> to run one of the games that's on it, TIC.EXE.  It's not in PlayOnLinux's
> list of applications or games, and I'm completely new to trying this.
> 
> I could use help, advice, warnings or pointers to a better place to get
> help.

$ apt-cache show dosemu

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Re: wifi connection tool?

2014-12-30 Thread Matt Ventura

On 12/30/2014 07:26 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote:

Andrei POPESCU  writes:


On Lu, 29 dec 14, 15:58:06, Vincent Lefevre wrote:

This is for Network Manager (which I'm not using since it handles
the full network configuration, but I already have my own for
Ethernet, and I don't want it to be broken).

If I'm not mistaken it can be configured to not handle connections
already handled by ifupdown.


Network devices which are configured in /etc/network/interfaces will
   typically be managed by ifupdown. Such devices will by default be
   marked as "unmanaged" in NetworkManager.

>From /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian

I used to run a configuration like that, so I can confirm that this
works indeed.

(For completeness' sake: I used to have the static network config of my
workstation configured on the box itself, until I decided that it would
be a lot simpler to just set up a static association on my DHCP server
and just let NM handle all the network issues on my clients)

Mart

In addition, if you'd like to manually tell n-m to not manage 
interfaces, you

can add a section like this to your /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf:

[keyfile]
unmanaged-devices=mac:01:02:03:04:05:06;mac:00:11:22:33:44:55


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Re: Speed up a WiFI interface ??

2014-12-30 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 07:14:19PM +0100, Bernhard Frühmesser wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> For a friend i setup a small RAID-1 config using Wheezy on one of his old
> machines, just to backup his most important stuff. Unfortunately the
> location where the box is placed can not be reached via cable because of
> building conditions, so only Wireless is possible.
> 
> I have installed package "firmware-ralink" for the network card and these
> modules are loaded after reboot:
> 
> rt2800pci
> rt2800lib
> rt2x00pci
> 
> After using wpa_passphrase and adding wlan0 to /etc/network/interfaces all
> works so far, the client get´s an ip from the dhcp server, can copy stuff
> and so on.
> 
> The Problem is that it´s extremely slow.
> 
> The WLAN-Router is setup to support 11bgn mixed mode, channel bandwith
> "audo" and max transfer rate 150Mbit/s.
> 
> But when i check the client side with iwconfig i get this:
> 
> wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"My friends SSID"
>   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point:MAC-Adress
>   Bit Rate=58.5 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm
>   Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
>   Encryption key:off
>   Power Management:off
>   Link Quality=45/70  Signal level=-65 dBm
>   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
>   Tx excessive retries:5788  Invalid misc:58   Missed beacon:0
> 
> The wlan-card is supposed to support 150Mbit/s as well.
> 
> I have tested and position the box right next to the wlan-Router but this
> doesn´t help much except the Link Quality is then 70/70.
> 
> I have used iptraf to check for the data rates and the overall input rate
> for this interface is about 5,8 Mbit/s which is not even 5% of the max
> (theoretical) speed. I know that the max speed of a WLAN is never reached
> but 5,8 Mbit/s overall speed seems very slow to me - no?
> 
> Anything i can do to speed this up?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> BF.
> 
> 
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Megabits are not the same as megabytes. Eight bits in byte + start/stop and 
overheads.

150Mb is probably closer to 150/10MB - so 150Mb = 15MB in ideal conditions 
without any loss.

Add in radio noisy environments / other interference and you can soon lose 
speed :(

All the best,

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Re: Speed up a WiFI interface ??

2014-12-30 Thread Mike McGinn

On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 13:14:19 Bernhard Frühmesser wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> For a friend i setup a small RAID-1 config using Wheezy on one of his
> old machines, just to backup his most important stuff. Unfortunately the
> location where the box is placed can not be reached via cable because of
> building conditions, so only Wireless is possible.
> 
> I have installed package "firmware-ralink" for the network card and
> these modules are loaded after reboot:
> 
> rt2800pci
> rt2800lib
> rt2x00pci
> 
> After using wpa_passphrase and adding wlan0 to /etc/network/interfaces
> all works so far, the client get´s an ip from the dhcp server, can copy
> stuff and so on.
> 
> The Problem is that it´s extremely slow.
> 
> The WLAN-Router is setup to support 11bgn mixed mode, channel bandwith
> "audo" and max transfer rate 150Mbit/s.
> 
> But when i check the client side with iwconfig i get this:
> 
> wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"My friends SSID"
>Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point:MAC-Adress
>Bit Rate=58.5 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm
>Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
>Encryption key:off
>Power Management:off
>Link Quality=45/70  Signal level=-65 dBm
>Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
>Tx excessive retries:5788  Invalid misc:58   Missed beacon:0
> 
> The wlan-card is supposed to support 150Mbit/s as well.
> 
> I have tested and position the box right next to the wlan-Router but
> this doesn´t help much except the Link Quality is then 70/70.
> 
> I have used iptraf to check for the data rates and the overall input
> rate for this interface is about 5,8 Mbit/s which is not even 5% of the
> max (theoretical) speed. I know that the max speed of a WLAN is never
> reached but 5,8 Mbit/s overall speed seems very slow to me - no?
> 
> Anything i can do to speed this up?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> BF.

Just because the card  will support 150Mbit/s does not mean the system will. 
The computer has other things to do besides see to the network, and the router 
has other connections to service and the system on the other side has other 
things to do too. It all adds up.

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Re: multiple versions of python

2014-12-30 Thread Boruch Baum
Thanks. Are you recommending virtualenv from experience having used it,
or from heresay? I would want to know what possible pitfalls and gotchas
there might be. Specifically, the description for the package says that
it creates "... virtual Python instances, each invokable  with its own
Python executable.  Each instance can have different sets of
modules...", but I'm not looking for running two instances with
individual custom modules or libraries - I think I'm looking at having
two ENTIRE python tool-chains (v2.7 & v2.6). So, I would be asking
virtualenv, a python2.7 package itself, to be running an entire
python2.6 instance. Would that be in the scope of solution you've suggested?


On 12/29/2014 04:30 PM, Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
> On 12/29/2014 09:17 PM, Boruch Baum wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I'm preparing two bug reports, and in trying to sort one of them out, it
>> seems that it may be linked to an incompatibility of a script with
>> python2.7 (see bug #659831). So, in test that possibility, what I would
>> like to do is install some other version of python (I see 2.5 and 2.6 in
>> the repositories), in order to see whether the package works with
>> another version.
>>
>> My questions revolve around how time-consuming and worthwhile this
>> exercise will be:
>>
>> 1] Can I have multiple versions of python simultaneously?
>>
>> 2] Is there a way to specify that one package use a non-default version
>> of python? (I don't want to set an old version of python as default, if
>> that risks having other packages, depending on 2.7, break).
>>
>> 3] Is this a quick, straightforward install? Or is it going to be
>> something like an emacs install, with all kinds of time-consuming,
>> interminable local compilations and configurations?
>>
>> Please respond to me directly, and on list. Thanks.
> 
> It sounds like you need virtualenv: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/virtualenv
> 
> Regards,
> Alex


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Speed up a WiFI interface ??

2014-12-30 Thread Bernhard Frühmesser

Hello,

For a friend i setup a small RAID-1 config using Wheezy on one of his 
old machines, just to backup his most important stuff. Unfortunately the 
location where the box is placed can not be reached via cable because of 
building conditions, so only Wireless is possible.


I have installed package "firmware-ralink" for the network card and 
these modules are loaded after reboot:


rt2800pci
rt2800lib
rt2x00pci

After using wpa_passphrase and adding wlan0 to /etc/network/interfaces 
all works so far, the client get´s an ip from the dhcp server, can copy 
stuff and so on.


The Problem is that it´s extremely slow.

The WLAN-Router is setup to support 11bgn mixed mode, channel bandwith 
"audo" and max transfer rate 150Mbit/s.


But when i check the client side with iwconfig i get this:

wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"My friends SSID"
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point:MAC-Adress
  Bit Rate=58.5 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm
  Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
  Encryption key:off
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality=45/70  Signal level=-65 dBm
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:5788  Invalid misc:58   Missed beacon:0

The wlan-card is supposed to support 150Mbit/s as well.

I have tested and position the box right next to the wlan-Router but 
this doesn´t help much except the Link Quality is then 70/70.


I have used iptraf to check for the data rates and the overall input 
rate for this interface is about 5,8 Mbit/s which is not even 5% of the 
max (theoretical) speed. I know that the max speed of a WLAN is never 
reached but 5,8 Mbit/s overall speed seems very slow to me - no?


Anything i can do to speed this up?

Thanks,

BF.


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Re: New Kernel but there is no screen... :(

2014-12-30 Thread Curt
On 2014-12-30, Hans  wrote:
>
> The problem is, that we do still not know, what the real reason is for the 
> malfunction.
>

He might want to look in the log for errors, if that detail hasn't
already been mentioned (/var/log/Xorg.0.log).


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ALSA does not work on baytrail tablet.

2014-12-30 Thread nutrinfnon

Hi,

I have installed debian 7.7 on an 8" tablet (CHUWI VX8 3G) baytrail atom 
z3735g).


I'm using kernel 3.10.20 from original android installation. I also 
tested upstream 3.19.0-rc1 with same results.


Below all info:

dmesg (relevant lines)

snd_intel_sst: INFO:  SST DRIVER loading.. Ver: 3.0.8
snd_byt_bl_rt5642: Baytrail Machine Driver byt_rt5642 registerd
byt_rt5642 AMCR0F28:00:  snd-soc-dummy-dai <-> ssp-bt-cpu-dai mapping ok
byt_rt5642 AMCR0F28:00:  snd-soc-dummy-dai <-> ssp-modem-cpu-dai mapping ok
snd_byt_bl_rt5642: snd_byt_mc_probe successful


cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [baytrailaudio  ]: baytrailaudio - baytrailaudio
  baytrailaudio
 1 [IntelHDMI  ]: IntelHDMI - IntelHDMI


 ll /dev/snd/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   60 Dec 30 15:56 by-path
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116,  6 Dec 30 15:56 comprC0D2
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116, 12 Dec 30 15:56 controlC0
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116, 14 Dec 30 15:56 controlC1
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116, 11 Dec 30 15:56 hwC0D0
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116, 10 Dec 30 15:56 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116,  9 Dec 30 15:56 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116,  8 Dec 30 15:56 pcmC0D1c
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116,  7 Dec 30 15:56 pcmC0D1p
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116,  5 Dec 30 15:56 pcmC0D3c
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116,  4 Dec 30 15:56 pcmC0D3p
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116,  3 Dec 30 15:56 pcmC0D4c
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116,  2 Dec 30 15:56 pcmC0D4p
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116, 13 Dec 30 15:56 pcmC1D0p
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116,  1 Dec 30 15:56 seq
crw-rw---T+ 1 root audio 116, 33 Dec 30 15:56 timer


I copied firmware from android /system/etc/firmware to /lib/firmware/3.10.30
fw_sst_0f28.bin
aac_dec_0f28.bin
mp3_dec_0f28.bin



first test: alsa.conf android


aplay -l  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: baytrailaudio [baytrailaudio], device 0: Audio rt5640-aif1-0 []
  Subdevices: 2/2
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
card 0: baytrailaudio [baytrailaudio], device 1: Voice rt5640-aif2-1 []
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: baytrailaudio [baytrailaudio], device 3: BYT_BTSCO 
snd-soc-dummy-dai-3 []

  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: baytrailaudio [baytrailaudio], device 4: BYT_MODEM_MIXING 
snd-soc-dummy-dai-4 []

  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: IntelHDMI [IntelHDMI], device 0: IntelHDMI [IntelHDMI]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


mplayer -novideo -v -af resample=48000 -ao alsa:device=hw=0.0 film.avi
...
uilding audio filter chain for 44100Hz/2ch/s16le -> 0Hz/0ch/??...
[libaf] Adding filter resample
[resample] Changing sample rate to 48000Hz
[resample] Using integer processing and inexact frequecy conversion.
[resample] New filter designed up: 160 down: 147
[resample] Using integer processing and inexact frequecy conversion.
Trying preferred audio driver 'alsa', options 'device=hw=0.0'
alsa-init: requested format: 48000 Hz, 2 channels, 9
alsa-init: using ALSA 1.0.25
alsa-init: setup for 1/2 channel(s)
alsa-init: using device hw:0,0
alsa-init: pcm opened in blocking mode
alsa-init: got buffersize=96000
alsa-init: got period size 1500
alsa: 48000 Hz/2 channels/4 bpf/96000 bytes buffer/Signed 16 bit Little 
Endian

AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
AO: Description: ALSA-0.9.x-1.x audio output
AO: Author: Alex Beregszaszi, Zsolt Barat 
AO: Comment: under development
Building audio filter chain for 44100Hz/2ch/s16le -> 48000Hz/2ch/s16le...
[resample] Using integer processing and inexact frequecy conversion.
[resample] Using integer processing and inexact frequecy conversion.
Video: no video
Freeing 0 unused video chunks.
Starting playback...
[libaf] Reallocating memory in module resample, old len = 0, new len = 98225
Increasing filtered audio buffer size from 0 to 98224
A:   0.0 (00.0) of 448.0 (07:28.0)  6.9%



(stops at 0.0 no sound, I must use ctrl-c to terminate mplayer)

dmesg:
snd_intel_sst: runtime_resume called
snd_intel_sst: FW Version 02.08.0a.05
snd_intel_sst: Build date Feb 18 2014 Time 10:11:36
snd_intel_sst: runtime_idle called



alsamixer
cannot load mixer controls: Inappropriate ioctl for device






second test: with alsa.conf minimal config

aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: baytrailaudio [baytrailaudio], device 0: 1 []
  Subdevices: 2/2
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
card 0: baytrailaudio [baytrailaudio], device 1: Voice rt5640-aif2-1 []
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: baytrailaudio [baytrailaudio], device 3: BYT_BTSCO 
snd-soc-dummy-dai-3 []

  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: baytrailaudio [baytrailaudio], device 4: BYT_MODEM_MIXING 
snd-soc-dummy-dai-4 []

  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: IntelHDMI [IntelHDMI], device 0: IntelHDMI [IntelHDMI]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0



mplayer -novideo -v -af resample=48000 -ao alsa:d

Re: Question about MultiArch and dependencies

2014-12-30 Thread Gary Dale

On 30/12/14 06:45 AM, Raphaël Halimi wrote:

Le 30/12/2014 06:04, Gary Dale a écrit :

On 29/12/14 11:59 PM, The Wanderer wrote:

On 12/29/2014 at 11:48 PM, Gary Dale wrote:


On 29/12/14 04:27 PM, Raphaël Halimi wrote:


Le 29/12/2014 21:52, Gary Dale a écrit :

Apparently not.

Wow, very useful answer. Thanks a lot !

Given that most packages are trivially small compared with disk space
and memory these days, especially on gaming computers, the question
itself is almost pointless. Just pull in the dependency and forget
about it.

It's far from pointless if you're wanting to try to _understand_ what's
going on and why, which is an eminently reasonable goal and one which
should be encouraged rather than treated dismissively.


I read it as a complaint, not a question. He didn't ask why didn't it,
just shouldn't it. He didn't say it created any problems with his
desktop environment, just frustration that he needed two xterms.

1/ Remember that not all people speak English as their native language.
2/ Although it was indeed a question and not a complaint, I'm trying to
build a desktop for non-computer-literate people, used to simple layouts
like stock MacOSX, so yeah, having two terminals in the menu _is_ a
problem for the goal I'm trying to reach.
3/ Following your logic, I just should have forgotten about the problem
(because it _is_ a problem in mate-terminal's packaging, as Sven pointed
out) and live with it... I wonder where Debian would be today if
everyone treated minor bugs like you do. Indeed, I could just
dpkg-divert the desktop file to hide it on the machines I install
(that's probably what I'll do if the fix doesn't reach Jessie before the
release), but as The Wanderer said, understanding why apt reacts like
that was much more interesting, and reporting this kind of minor bugs in
packaging, in addition to saving me a little bit of work on future
installations, allows to fix the problem not only for Debian, but for
all of its downstreams as well (Ubuntu, Mint, Crunchbang, etc etc).

Just admit that you didn't really understand the question, and gave a
useless and almost rude answer. These things happen, it's no big deal.

Then again, knowing how to ask a question is also important. It would 
seem that your real concern is having two terminals on the menu. 
However, did you actually test that it would happen? Would installing 
the multiarch version give you two xterms or would the last one 
installed overwrite the first?


Could you simply remove the second menu item if one did in fact show up?

Did you try removing the mate version of xterm before installing the one 
steam prefers?



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Re: Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread The Wanderer
On 12/30/2014 at 09:45 AM, Don Armstrong wrote:

> On Mon, 29 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> 
>> I should also add - that's why they are looking at other distros
>> now. They are planning to stay on Wheezy as long as possible. It
>> will probably take two years for them to get another distro ready
>> for production.
> 
> If switching to systemd is their main concern, then they can just
> stay with SysV for jessie. They should probably also consider
> contributing developer time (or your time) to the continued support
> of SysV in jessie+1 (and beyond.)

Take care about what configuration to use in sticking with sysvinit in
jessie, though. I run two main Debian systems; on one of them I've
installed sysvinit-core+systemd-shim and removed systemd-the-package
(and all reverse dependencies, of course), and on the other I've
installed sysvinit-core+systemd-shim and left libpam-systemd (and all
dependencies) in place - and I have seen behavior changes in at least
the latter case. (I think I've seen some changes in both cases, but I've
changed the installed-package configuration on the former machine since
then, so I can't swear those changes are still present.)

Just yesterday, I rebooted the computer with libpam-systemd present (and
thus systemd-logind active) for the first time since the switch, and
I've already noted two particular behavior changes which I find
bothersome:

* When I launch X from tty1 with 'startx', it now appears to run on tty1
itself instead of on the more traditional tty7 - which has the practical
effect that it's no longer possible to kill X by shifting to tty1 and
hitting Ctrl-C, which is an emergency break-out measure I've found
necessary or at least convenient in the past. There are probably ways to
reconfigure things to prevent this behavior change (I think I've seen
such mentioned here on-list in the past), but that is the behavior which
seems to result from the default configuration.

* When I boot to the text console to log in, there are messages from
logind printed prior to login which clutter the console (and step all
over the actual login prompt), and more printed after hitting Enter on
the password prompt to actually log in. If there are ways to prevent
this behavior change without muting potentially-desirable (new) logging
activity entirely, I'm not aware of them.

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Re: wifi connection tool?

2014-12-30 Thread Mart van de Wege
Andrei POPESCU  writes:

> On Lu, 29 dec 14, 15:58:06, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
>> 
>> This is for Network Manager (which I'm not using since it handles
>> the full network configuration, but I already have my own for
>> Ethernet, and I don't want it to be broken).
>
> If I'm not mistaken it can be configured to not handle connections 
> already handled by ifupdown.
>

Network devices which are configured in /etc/network/interfaces will
  typically be managed by ifupdown. Such devices will by default be
  marked as "unmanaged" in NetworkManager.

>From /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.Debian

I used to run a configuration like that, so I can confirm that this
works indeed.

(For completeness' sake: I used to have the static network config of my
workstation configured on the box itself, until I decided that it would
be a lot simpler to just set up a static association on my DHCP server
and just let NM handle all the network issues on my clients)

Mart

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Continuing to use SysV; LTS [Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?]

2014-12-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> I should also add - that's why they are looking at other distros now.
> They are planning to stay on Wheezy as long as possible. It will
> probably take two years for them to get another distro ready for
> production.

If switching to systemd is their main concern, then they can just stay
with SysV for jessie. They should probably also consider contributing
developer time (or your time) to the continued support of SysV in
jessie+1 (and beyond.)

If they want to stick with wheezy for other reasons, they should help
make squeeze LTS a success so people are more likely to also contribute
to wheezy LTS when it is inevitably EOLed by the stable security team.

If it's something else that bothers them, the way to influence Debian is
to do the work.

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Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-30 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 12/30/2014 5:37 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 29 dec 14, 22:06:55, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>
>> No, from what I've seen, the default is to do preventative fscks,
>> depending on the number of boots (and time? I'm not sure).  
> 
> Could you please show us where you've seen this? For the record, again, 
> from the e2fsprogs changelog:
> 

Multiple times in on this mailing list.

> 
> e2fsprogs (1.42~WIP-2011-07-02-1) unstable; urgency=low
> ...
>   * Mke2fs will now create file systems that enable user namespace
>   extended attributes and with time- and mount count-based file
>   system checks disabled.
> ...
>  -- Theodore Y. Ts'o   Sat, 02 Jul 2011 22:38:57 -0400
> 
> Of course, if you have filesystems created with earlier e2fsprogs you'll 
> still have the periodic checks enabled, but they are easy to disable 
> with tune2fs.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
> 

This is the first time I've seen this fix.  I've seen other means of
using tune2fs, such as setting to a high number and resetting the count
on each reboot.  But I hadn't seen that it could be disabled this way.

This fixes my immediate problem.  But as I've said before - there are
other reasons my clients don't like the way Debian is going, and the
decision has already been made to look at another distro.  And I have to
be developing on the same distros they are using.

Jerry


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Re: Question about MultiArch and dependencies

2014-12-30 Thread Raphaël Halimi
Le 30/12/2014 06:04, Gary Dale a écrit :
> On 29/12/14 11:59 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
>> On 12/29/2014 at 11:48 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
>>
>>> On 29/12/14 04:27 PM, Raphaël Halimi wrote:
>>>
 Le 29/12/2014 21:52, Gary Dale a écrit :
> Apparently not.
 Wow, very useful answer. Thanks a lot !
>>> Given that most packages are trivially small compared with disk space
>>> and memory these days, especially on gaming computers, the question
>>> itself is almost pointless. Just pull in the dependency and forget
>>> about it.
>> It's far from pointless if you're wanting to try to _understand_ what's
>> going on and why, which is an eminently reasonable goal and one which
>> should be encouraged rather than treated dismissively.
>>
> I read it as a complaint, not a question. He didn't ask why didn't it, 
> just shouldn't it. He didn't say it created any problems with his 
> desktop environment, just frustration that he needed two xterms.

1/ Remember that not all people speak English as their native language.
2/ Although it was indeed a question and not a complaint, I'm trying to
build a desktop for non-computer-literate people, used to simple layouts
like stock MacOSX, so yeah, having two terminals in the menu _is_ a
problem for the goal I'm trying to reach.
3/ Following your logic, I just should have forgotten about the problem
(because it _is_ a problem in mate-terminal's packaging, as Sven pointed
out) and live with it... I wonder where Debian would be today if
everyone treated minor bugs like you do. Indeed, I could just
dpkg-divert the desktop file to hide it on the machines I install
(that's probably what I'll do if the fix doesn't reach Jessie before the
release), but as The Wanderer said, understanding why apt reacts like
that was much more interesting, and reporting this kind of minor bugs in
packaging, in addition to saving me a little bit of work on future
installations, allows to fix the problem not only for Debian, but for
all of its downstreams as well (Ubuntu, Mint, Crunchbang, etc etc).

Just admit that you didn't really understand the question, and gave a
useless and almost rude answer. These things happen, it's no big deal.

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Re: New Kernel but there is no screen... :(

2014-12-30 Thread Hans
Am Dienstag, 30. Dezember 2014, 10:40:55 schrieben Sie:
> It has the black screen after boot when try load the desktop login screen -
> so this is the 2. - from which you mentioned.
> 
> I have got two NVIDIA 8600GT - in SLI - with two screens plugged in one of
> the cards - as you could see in my xorg.conf - which was posted here.
> 
> Many thanks
>
So, that might be the point. You got SLI. I believe, that might be the reason. 
I am not experienced with SLI. But there is a good manual for the entries in 
xorg.conf sent with the package. 

I suggest to iterate the problem. If it is possible, to insert only one card, 
then do so. Use only just one monitor. If this is working, add the other 
monitor. If they are both working ( I believe, there is a "twin" or "Stereo" 
option in xorg.conf), then add the second card.

If you do so, then you may find out the reason. 

Also check, if the nvidia module is loaded (I guess you did already) by using 
lsmod | grep nvidia.

Make sure, the nouveau module is NOT loaded! (lsmod | grep nouveau).

The problem is, that we do still not know, what the real reason is for the 
malfunction.

Hope this helps.

Best

Hans


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Re: Develop ineo 25e printer and CUPS

2014-12-30 Thread Jape Person

On 12/30/2014 02:41 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:

Hi all,

I have a  Develop ineo 25e printer, and want to set it up
with CUPS. I connect to http://localhost:631/ and add the
printer, with uploading the PPD available here:
http://www.develop.eu/en/products/office-products/colour/ineo-25/downloads.html



(English, Linux, version 1.1 dated 2012)


The printer is network connected, and the connection is

socket://192.168.129.100 job-sheets=none, none
media=iso_a4_210x297mm sides=one-sided


I tried several combinations, with or without the PPD,
socket:// or ipp://,... no way: The test page prints OK, but
any other page is a kind of source code I could not define.

Would you know what option could save me?

Thanks.




When you performed the test page print, was that order sent from 
the front panel of the printer or from one of the networked 
computers?


This sounds like it could be a communications error. The 
simplest and first thing I'd try in a case like this is to reset 
the printer itself by cycling it's power.


You might also check the cable connections to be certain they're 
secure.


If neither of those suggestions work, you might try telling us 
what you've tried in the way of troubleshooting, and any error 
messages that you might discern in the printer output -- though 
it sounds as though there won't be anything decipherable there.


Best regards,
JP


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Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 29 dec 14, 18:32:28, Marc Auslander wrote:
> Long ago, I decided that inconvenient fsck's were not what I
> needed. And that cancelling them was not an option - I run quasi
> headless so there's no way.
> 
> So - I use tune2fs to set a ridiculous reboot count for automatic
> fsck.  

Just for the archives, as per tune2fs(8), one can disable the mount 
count check by setting the value to 0 or -1.

[snip implementation of monthly forced check via cron]

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Fwd: Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 29 dec 14, 22:06:55, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> 
> No, from what I've seen, the default is to do preventative fscks,
> depending on the number of boots (and time? I'm not sure).  

Could you please show us where you've seen this? For the record, again, 
from the e2fsprogs changelog:


e2fsprogs (1.42~WIP-2011-07-02-1) unstable; urgency=low
...
  * Mke2fs will now create file systems that enable user namespace
  extended attributes and with time- and mount count-based file
  system checks disabled.
...
 -- Theodore Y. Ts'o   Sat, 02 Jul 2011 22:38:57 -0400

Of course, if you have filesystems created with earlier e2fsprogs you'll 
still have the periodic checks enabled, but they are easy to disable 
with tune2fs.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: wifi connection tool?

2014-12-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 29 dec 14, 15:58:06, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> 
> This is for Network Manager (which I'm not using since it handles
> the full network configuration, but I already have my own for
> Ethernet, and I don't want it to be broken).

If I'm not mistaken it can be configured to not handle connections 
already handled by ifupdown.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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