Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

[Petter Adsen]

On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:15:59 +0800
Bret Busby  wrote:
> I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from
> the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that
> installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that installation, and the
> Debian 7 installation also still does not detect the external monitor.

How do you determine that it doesn't detect the monitor? You can read
through /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it's easier to just run "xrandr" (when
both screens are connected) and see what it detects. If "xrandr" is able
to detect both outputs it should just be a matter of configuration, if
not then that would suggest a problem with the driver.

At least Wheezy is a lot more up to date than Squeeze, with newer
kernel and X. I'd say your odds of getting the second screen going
there would be a lot better than with Squeeze.

Since it's working on your Ubuntu installation, can you determine which
version of the driver that has installed? The packages are usually
called "nvidia-xxx", then do "apt-cache policy nvidia-xxx" on the one
that is installed to see the exact version. Do the same for Wheezy.

Copies of Xorg.0.log (on both Wheezy and Ubuntu) would also be helpful,
just to see what your system detects, and how they differ.

Petter

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Re: make oldconfig bzImage

[Dhiraj Bhor]

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Ric Moore  wrote:

> On 06/19/2015 01:23 AM, Dhiraj Bhor wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Still no luck so far.
>> Can someone help../
>>
>
> You'll get much more help if you respect the no-top-posting meme of this
> list. Ric
>
>
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Ohh excuses for top posting.
I read about top and bottom posting.
Hope this will help.

Dhiraj

Re: Moving from 56k modem

[Reco]

 Hi.

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:20:25 -0500
Richard Owlett  wrote:

> Mike McClain wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 03:22:37PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >> Scarletdown wrote:
> >>> How about a portable wireless hotspot device and service?
> >>
> >> I was leaning away from that solution - unsure of security
> >> implications when using personal hotspot.
> >>
> >>> The
> >>> way I understand how those work, you will have your Internet
> >>> service with you no matter where you are, as long as you can get
> >>> a signal from your provider.
> >
> > When CBS 60 Minutes (or was it Sunday Morning?) did an article on
> > security on airlines, trains, etc. They suggested setting up a VPN on
> > your system.
> > Mike
> 
> A pointer to an appropriate how-to and .deb in Jessie repository?

A *very* simplistic howto follows:

autossh -ND1080 



iceweasel 


Links to debs will be provided to you by this wonderful apt-cache(1)
thing.

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Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....

[Petter Adsen]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:11:19 +0100
Michael Fothergill  wrote:

> ​​Seeing an Xorg.0.log file from a normal boot would be good, plus the
> complete dmesg output.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sven
> 
> The ​ Xorg.0.log file is found here:
> 
> http://paste.debian.net/237917/

[   453.202] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
[   453.202] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
[   453.202] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
[   453.202] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
[   453.202] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"

So you're still not getting modesetting. Are you sure you booted
*without* "nomodeset" on the kernel line?

> The dmesg file was empty.

Strange.

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Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

[Ric Moore]

On 06/19/2015 12:15 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

On 19/06/2015, Ric Moore  wrote:

On 06/18/2015 03:25 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:


There are, however, no hits on bumblebee for squeeze at all, so it
won't help in this case. Maybe you could try to build it from source? At
this point that may be your only chance. If only you could do that with
the drivers...

It might also be that it is (maybe for one of the reasons I listed in
my previous mail) incompatible with Squeeze. I just don't know, sorry.


I see the same thing, https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee#From_repository
It doesn't appear to be available for sqeeze.



I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from
the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that
installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that installation, and the
Debian 7 installation also still does not detect the external monitor.


"Check and see if you have the tool 'intel-virtual-output' installed. 
This is included in 'xf86-video-intel' =< v2.99, aprox date released is 
22/Dec/2014


Running 'intel-virtual-output' without any extra parameters will 
daemonize itself and detect attached displays in the background. It will 
then perform all the trickery of virtualizing and cloning so that the 
newly attached screen can be used via conventional screen management 
methods, such as cloning/extending with xrandr."


https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Multi-monitor-setup

Good luck! I almost went blind reading this, but my Anti-Peril glasses 
kicked in. If you can figure out something from all of those notes, I'll 
nominate you custodian of all things related to Bumblebee. Note: you 
will still have to futz with xrandr for the auto-magically configured 
extra display to kick in. Or, the computer will wait longer than you for 
you to do something. They always win a staring match.  Ric


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Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone

[Stefan Pietsch]

On 18.06.2015 15:47, Steve Greig wrote:

...

> It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files
> to the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the moment).
> I would be happy to use the command line but when I googled that it
> looked very complicated.


Have a look at jmtpfs.

https://packages.debian.org/jessie/jmtpfs


Regards,
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Re: make oldconfig bzImage

[Ric Moore]

On 06/19/2015 01:23 AM, Dhiraj Bhor wrote:

Hi all,

Still no luck so far.
Can someone help../


You'll get much more help if you respect the no-top-posting meme of this 
list. Ric



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Re: Resizing partitions on a headless server

[csanyipal]

Pascal Hambourg  writes:

> csanyi...@gmail.com a écrit :
>> 
>> Finally, I solved the problem by doing the followings:
>> # lvresize --size 455.5G /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
>> # e2fsck -f /dev/mapper/bubba-storage
>
> Glad you were lucky.
>
>> What is my goal?
>> 
>> Filesystem Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
>> /dev/root  9.2G  8.0G  815M  91% /
>> devtmpfs   125M 0  125M   0% /dev
>> tmpfs  125M  4.0K  125M   1% /dev/shm
>> tmpfs  125M  5.6M  120M   5% /run
>> tmpfs  5.0M 0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
>> tmpfs  125M 0  125M   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
>> /dev/mapper/bubba-storage  449G  8.2G  418G   2% /home
>> tmpfs   25M 0   25M   0% /run/user/1001

>> As one can see, my /dev/root partition is almost full.
>> I want to increase /dev/root partition to be maximum available size and
>> decrease /home partition to only 20 GiB.
>> 
>> So can be the /var directory large enough to encompass the web and other
>> contents. 
>> 
>> What are your advises, what do I do to reach my goal?
>
> Do not resize partitions. This is difficult and risky. Use LVM.
> Reduce the filesystem in the LV and the LV to a adequate size (without
> mistake this time).

I did this step successfully:
root@b2:~# pvdisplay
 --- Physical volume ---
 PV Name   /dev/sda2
 VG Name   bubba
 PV Size   455.43 GiB / not usable 3.65 MiB
 Allocatable   yes
 PE Size   4.00 MiB
 Total PE  116588
 Free PE   111442
 Allocated PE  5146
 PV UUID
 SMvR2K-6Z3c-xCgd-jSR2-kb1A-15a2-3RiS6V

root@b2:~# lvdisplay
 --- Logical volume ---
 LV Path/dev/bubba/storage
 LV Namestorage
 VG Namebubba
 LV UUID91yHxQ-RmOW-OeDv-jaIv-1z1B-KBSk-yCsDC6
 LV Write Accessread/write
 LV Creation host, time ,
 LV Status  available
 # open 1
 LV Size20.10 GiB
 Current LE 5146
 Segments   1
 Allocation inherit
 Read ahead sectors auto
 - currently set to 256
 Block device   253:0

> Create a new LV of adequate size. DON'T take all the available space in
> the VG. Leave some space for future needs. Increasing a LV and its
> filesystem is easy and can be done online while it's mounted. Reducing
> is risky, as you experienced.

I want to create one LV for /usr and one LV for /var.
But I can't create a LV with:
# lvcreate --size 10.10G -n usr bubba
 Rounding up size to full physical extent 10.10 GiB
 /dev/bubba/usr: not found: device not cleared
 Aborting. Failed to wipe start of new LV.
 semid 1114120: semop failed for cookie 0xd4d6ff6: incorrect
  semaphore state
 Failed to set a proper state for notification semaphore
  identified by cookie value 223178742 (0xd4d6ff6) to initialize
  waiting for incoming notifications.

I don't understand why can't create a new LV with this command abowe?

And don't understand why is successful following command?
# lvcreate -vvv --size 10.10G -n usr bubba

I search on Internet and found another solution:
# lvcreate -Zn --size 10.10G -n usr bubba
 Rounding up size to full physical extent 10.10 GiB
 WARNING: "bubba/usr" not zeroed
 Logical volume "usr" created
 semid 1146888: semop failed for cookie 0xd4d9b50: incorrect
  semaphore state
 Failed to set a proper state for notification semaphore
  identified by cookie value 223189840 (0xd4d9b50) to initialize
  waiting for incoming notifications.

Can I use now this newly created LV to make on it an ext4 filesystem
despite the fact that it is not zeroed?

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Re: make oldconfig bzImage

[Dhiraj Bhor]

Hi all,

Still no luck so far.
Can someone help../

Regards,
Dhiraj

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Dhiraj Bhor 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I mistakenly replied to only Tomas and not CC'ed the debian-user list in
> my last mail so forwarding to wider audience.
> If anyone having solution to this, please jump in.
> Would be delighted to hear any suggestions.
>
> Regards,
> Dhiraj
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 9:25 PM,  wrote:
>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 04:02:40PM +0530, Dhiraj Bhor wrote:
>> > I have done following
>> > $ apt-get remove module-init-tools
>> > $ apt-get install module-init-tools
>> >
>> > But this error is appearing again.
>> > I have 3 questions:
>> >
>> > 1. Should i really care about below warning
>> > $ make modules_install INSTALL_MOD_PATH=/home/build/output
>> > *Warning: you may need to install module-init-tools*
>> > *See http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/docs/post-halloween-2.6.txt
>> > *
>>
>> This sounds harmless -- if you have the corresponding package installed
>> (which I remember you wrote).
>>
>> > 2.What is significance of directory
>> > $* ls -lah ~/output/lib/modules/2.6.32/*
>> > total 492K
>> > drwxr-xr-x 3 build build 4.0K Jun  8 09:52 .
>> > drwxr-xr-x 3 build build 4.0K Jun  8 09:52 ..
>> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 build build   32 Jun  8 09:52 build ->
>> > /home/build/linux-2.6.32-358.el6
>> > drwxr-xr-x 7 build build 4.0K Jun  8 09:52 kernel
>> > -rw-r--r-- 1 build build 151K Jun  8 09:52 modules.alias
>> > -rw-r--r-- 1 build build 130K Jun  8 09:52 modules.alias.bin
>> > -rw-r--r-- 1 build build0 Jun  8 09:52 modules.builtin.bin
>> > -rw-r--r-- 1 build build  16K Jun  8 09:52 modules.dep
>> > -rw-r--r-- 1 build build  28K Jun  8 09:52 modules.dep.bin
>> > -rw-r--r-- 1 build build   52 Jun  8 09:52 modules.devname
>> > -rw-r--r-- 1 build build 8.9K Jun  8 09:52 modules.order
>> > -rw-r--r-- 1 build build   55 Jun  8 09:52 modules.softdep
>> > -rw-r--r-- 1 build build  57K Jun  8 09:52 modules.symbols
>> > -rw-r--r-- 1 build build  71K Jun  8 09:52 modules.symbols.bin
>> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 build build   32 Jun  8 09:52 source ->
>> > /home/build/linux-2.6.32-358.el6
>>
>> AFAIK (but take with a grain of salt) the kernel needs those to know which
>> modules to load dynamically when it "sees" new hardware (mostly via the
>> udev mechanism) -- or when you, for example, request new features (e.g.
>> a new filesystem).
>>
>> > 3. Should i care about this warning at the end
>> > *  INSTALL /home/build/output/lib/firmware/iwlwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode*
>> > *  DEPMOD  2.6.32*
>> > *depmod: WARNING: could not open
>> > /home/build/output/lib/modules/2.6.32/modules.builtin: No such file or
>> > directory*
>>
>> Hmm. This file is conspicuously missing in the list you gave above. On
>> my system there is one (and besides, your "modules.builtin.bin" has zero
>> bytes). I guess that it isn't being made during the kernel build process.
>>
>> Duckducking around gives no clear picture -- some suggest just generating
>> an empty modules.builtin (with touch), but I have no idea whether this
>> gets you into hot water later.
>>
>> You should take it to the list, instead of responding personally to
>> me, perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me would chime in?
>>
>> Regards
>> - -- tomás
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Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

[Bret Busby]

On 19/06/2015, Ric Moore  wrote:
> On 06/18/2015 03:25 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:
>
>> There are, however, no hits on bumblebee for squeeze at all, so it
>> won't help in this case. Maybe you could try to build it from source? At
>> this point that may be your only chance. If only you could do that with
>> the drivers...
>>
>> It might also be that it is (maybe for one of the reasons I listed in
>> my previous mail) incompatible with Squeeze. I just don't know, sorry.
>
> I see the same thing, https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee#From_repository
> It doesn't appear to be available for sqeeze.
>

I note also, that I used synaptic to remove all the nvidia stuff, from
the Debian 7 installation, and I removed the bumblebee stuff from that
installation, and reinstalled bumblebee on that installation, and the
Debian 7 installation also still does not detect the external monitor.

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Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....

[Seeker]

On 6/18/2015 7:48 AM, Michael Fothergill wrote:


don't recall you saying what graphics hardware you have but I think
it is a radeon?  What is your lspci entry for it?

  lspci | grep VGA

​It is an AMD Kaveri box Radeon R7 200 series​ (APU)

http://www.eteknix.com/complete-amd-kaveri-review-a10-7850k-a10-7700k-a8-7600/

I have the A10-7850k APU

​Regards

MF​



I'm running this chip with unstable and it boots fine.
Looks like testing and unstable are on the same X.org currently, but 
unstable is using a newer kernel.


Also I see something in dmesg about kaveri firmware being loaded, which 
I believe is provided by the

linux-firmware-nonfree package, in case you don't have this installed.

Looks like Petter has a better handle on this stuff than I do, so follow 
his instructions for getting

the system to boot to the command line.

Later, Seeker

[SOLVED] Re: forcedeth driver - bug?

[Bruce Ward]

Thanks Selim, that fixed it.

I had tried that months ago on the Wheezy installation I run, but it did 
not work then - probably I did not update the module dependencies or the 
initramfs at that time!


I had not realised the importance of the 'options' keyword, having seen 
few examples of it :-(



On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 09:06:30AM +1200, Bruce Ward wrote:

>
>An entry "options forcedeth ms=0 msix=0" in some /etc/modprobe.d/foo.conf
>should do thr trick, no?
>
>Of course, perhaps you tried that already and I'm mis-interpreting
>your question completely. Apologies if that's the case.

No I have not (yet) tried everything! There may be something in a
modprobe.d/foo.conf that could work.
I have tried putting the line
forcedeth msi=0 msix=0


When you make the foo.conf, don't leave "options" out.


into /etc/modules as appeared to work for this Ubuntu user
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1982856.html
but that didn't work for me. He did try
> a forcedeth.conf file to /etc/modprobe.d with the following contents:
>
>options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0


   ^^^
Should be like this.


Yes, solution is /etc/modprobe.d/forcedeth.conf containing
options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0

Thank you,
Bruce

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libvirt, dnsmasq, and resolvconf

[Ross Boylan]

I would like my host machine to be able to resolve the names of VMs on
libvirt's default network.  And I would like those VM's to resolve the
host machine properly.  VM's are resolving each other's names
correctly.  I'm currently on oldstable, wheezy.

*
The second problem is quick to describe, and so I'll start there.  On
one of the VM's I execute

ross@markov02:~$ nslookup markov00
Server: 192.168.122.1
Address:192.168.122.1#53

Name:   markov00
Address: 127.0.0.1

markov00 is the host.  Unfortunately, on markov02 127.0.0.1 resolves
to markov02, not markov00 (which should be 192.168.122.1).  I think
the answer is the result of libvirt's dnsmasq reading in /etc/hosts
(on markov00) and getting the IP from there.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=704803 raised this
issue, but there's no resolution.


*
Suspecting that the inability of markov00 to resolve markov02
(reported in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=703912,
but not resolved) was integration with the resolvconf machinery, I
installed dnsmasq; libvirt only installed and uses dnsmasq-bin.  As
instructed in libvirt's README.Debian, I added a snippet so dnsmasq
would only listen on the loopback.  This didn't help.  I now realize
the dnsmasq run from the Debian dnsmasq package is basically
independent of the one run by libvirt, so it's just adding confusion
right now.

By using dig @192.168.122.1 from markov00 I can get the IP's of the VM's.

I am not the first to encounter either problem, but I haven't found
any good way to solve the them.  libvirt apparently starts dnsmasq
without reading any configuration file
(https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2010-March/msg00038.html,
which thread is also a discussion between the dnsmasq author and the
libvirt team about getting things to work together), and so even some
of the hackish solutions (script runs when a new host is registered
and writes to a file, which the host dns resolver then queries) would
require hacking the libvirt source.

It seems as if adding the dnsmasq resolver on 192.168.122.1 to the
list of nameservers for the host to consult when the libvirt default
network started (which can happen at run time) would be the natural
solution.  But I suppose if dnsmasq is using the host DNS to get names
as a fallback the result would be a loop.

Failing that, exporting the entries as they are created is necessary.

Any ideas?
Ross Boylan


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Re: Moving from 56k modem

[Richard Owlett]

Mike McClain wrote:

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 03:22:37PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

Scarletdown wrote:

How about a portable wireless hotspot device and service?


I was leaning away from that solution - unsure of security
implications when using personal hotspot.


The
way I understand how those work, you will have your Internet
service with you no matter where you are, as long as you can get
a signal from your provider.


When CBS 60 Minutes (or was it Sunday Morning?) did an article on
security on airlines, trains, etc. They suggested setting up a VPN on
your system.
Mike


A pointer to an appropriate how-to and .deb in Jessie repository?




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Re: Systemd takes more that 1m 30sec to start firewall at boot

[Ric Moore]

On 06/18/2015 05:49 PM, Martin Read wrote:

On 18/06/15 21:27, Johann Spies wrote:

I use shorewall. The shorewall-init.log shows that Shorewall took less
than 2 seconds to compile and start up.  Why does systemd wait that long
on boot?


$ systemd-analyze critical-chain

This will tell you what is taking a long time to start.



After logging in to XFCE, I observed a "busy" mouse cursor for 30 
seconds or more. Using the above command noted several things were 
taking as much as 8 seconds each to launch. Modem manager was one. A 
thumb nailer was another. I ripped them out with great disdain. Now, the 
old zip is back. This advice works. Systemd isn't the root of all evil, 
it's the stuff we install that doesn't behave to blame. Ric



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Re: Re: forcedeth driver - bug?

[Selim T . Erdoğan]

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 09:06:30AM +1200, Bruce Ward wrote:
> >
> >An entry "options forcedeth ms=0 msix=0" in some /etc/modprobe.d/foo.conf
> >should do thr trick, no?
> >
> >Of course, perhaps you tried that already and I'm mis-interpreting
> >your question completely. Apologies if that's the case.
> 
> No I have not (yet) tried everything! There may be something in a
> modprobe.d/foo.conf that could work.
> I have tried putting the line
>   forcedeth msi=0 msix=0

When you make the foo.conf, don't leave "options" out.

> into /etc/modules as appeared to work for this Ubuntu user
>   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1982856.html
> but that didn't work for me. He did try
> > a forcedeth.conf file to /etc/modprobe.d with the following contents:
> >
> >options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0

   ^^^
Should be like this.


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Re: Moving from 56k modem

[Mike McClain]

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 03:22:37PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Scarletdown wrote:
> >How about a portable wireless hotspot device and service?
>
> I was leaning away from that solution - unsure of security
> implications when using personal hotspot.
>
> >The
> >way I understand how those work, you will have your Internet
> >service with you no matter where you are, as long as you can get
> >a signal from your provider.

When CBS 60 Minutes (or was it Sunday Morning?) did an article on
security on airlines, trains, etc. They suggested setting up a VPN on
your system.
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Re: Systemd takes more that 1m 30sec to start firewall at boot

[Gary Dale]

On 18/06/15 04:27 PM, Johann Spies wrote:
I use shorewall. The shorewall-init.log shows that Shorewall took less 
than 2 seconds to compile and start up.  Why does systemd wait that 
long on boot?


This is on Jessie.

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I've had system messages show up during boot during boot where the 
system is apparently looking of USB devices that weren't where they used 
to be. The message specifically says its waiting for 90 seconds.



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Re: Systemd takes more that 1m 30sec to start firewall at boot

[Martin Read]

On 18/06/15 21:27, Johann Spies wrote:

I use shorewall. The shorewall-init.log shows that Shorewall took less
than 2 seconds to compile and start up.  Why does systemd wait that long
on boot?


$ systemd-analyze critical-chain

This will tell you what is taking a long time to start.


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Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....

[Michael Fothergill]

On 16 June 2015 at 21:40, Sven Joachim  wrote:

> On 2015-06-16 21:41 +0200, Bob Proulx wrote:
>
>
> > I fear the problem is the newer Linux KMS and DRM interfaces which
> > obsoleted a lot of hardware.  I have been hit by that problem myself.
> > Whereas older kernels worked perfectly supporting the hardware newer
> > kernels have dropped support and broken my systems.
>
> Please report this as bugs, the kernel is not supposed to obsolete
> hardware which people still have.
>
> ​Where do I file the bug report ? What do you put in it​ - log files or
> e.g. copies of these posts?
>

​Regards

MF​


>
>
> Cheers,
>Sven
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Re: Re: forcedeth driver - bug?

[Bruce Ward]

Hi Tomas


On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:12:49PM +1200, Bruce Ward wrote:

Installing Jessie 8.1.0 on an Asrock N68-VGS3 FX motherboard. This
has "Giga PHY RTL8211CL" ethernet, which lspci reports as:
"00:07.0 Bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)"

It uses the forcedeth driver module, which seems to need parameters
"msi=0 msix=0" to work. If I blacklist the driver, I can load it
with "modprobe forcedeth msi=0 msix=0" and all is fine. However, it
needs this after every reboot and I have not found a way to
successfully load the module automatically. Loaded automatically it
a) cannot connect to the network, and
b) locks the system solid if I try to unload it!

Is there some way over this problem or is this a bug? If a bug, who
should know about it?


Perhaps I'm not reading your mail correctly, but isn't that in the
realm of the modprobe.d configs?

- From the modprobe.d manpage:

NAME
   modprobe.d - Configuration directory for modprobe

SYNOPSIS
   /usr/lib/modprobe.d/*.conf

   /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf

   /run/modprobe.d/*.conf

DESCRIPTION
   [...]

COMMANDS
   [...]
   options modulename option...
   This command allows you to add options to the module
   modulename (which might be an alias) every time it is
   inserted into the kernel: whether directly (using modprobe
   modulename or because the module being inserted depends
   on this module.

   All options are added together: they can come from an
   option for the module itself, for an alias, and on the
   command line.

An entry "options forcedeth ms=0 msix=0" in some /etc/modprobe.d/foo.conf
should do thr trick, no?

Of course, perhaps you tried that already and I'm mis-interpreting
your question completely. Apologies if that's the case.

- -- t


No I have not (yet) tried everything! There may be something in a 
modprobe.d/foo.conf that could work.

I have tried putting the line
forcedeth msi=0 msix=0
into /etc/modules as appeared to work for this Ubuntu user
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1982856.html
but that didn't work for me. He did try

 a forcedeth.conf file to /etc/modprobe.d with the following contents:

options forcedeth msi=0 msix=0

But that doesn't do anything.


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Re: Moving from 56k modem

[Richard Owlett]

Jeremy Leonard wrote:

There is also a carrier called Ting that sells a wifi hotspot. The
billing is based on what you use and I've heard good things about them.
The wifi hotspot device can be found at https://ting.com/shop/Netgear-Zing


The cost structure is appropriate for my predicted usage.




bald_bohemian

On 06/17/2015 12:58 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:03:47AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

My connectivity for ~3 decades has been at <= 56k.
Current ISP abandoning that market ;/

I do not wish DSL, cable, nor satellite as they restrict me to one
physical location.

I was assuming that meant connecting via cell network.
Is that correct?
What questions should I be asking?

Please note that I am strongly text, rather than graphics, oriented.

Comments &/or questions I should be asking.


There are phones which can be hooked up via USB, cellmodems
attached via either USB or ethernet, and "hotspot" devices which
attach to your network via wifi.

There are four major carriers in the US, which in descending
order of coverage are:

Verizon
AT&T
T-Mobile
Sprint

all of them cover every urban and most suburban areas. All of
them have some coverage on every major highway.

There are also a fluctuating number of MVNOs, mobile virtual
network operators. They are reliant on contracts with one or
more of the big four to provide the actual service.

Speed is variable by place, but even the worst available service
should exceed 56Kb/s.

Service is available either prepaid or postpaid. Postpaid
generally involves a 1-3 year contract.

Service is available as CDMA, GSM, or LTE. Verizon and Sprint
use CDMA and LTE, on different bands. AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM
and LTE, again on different bands. You can buy some devices
which are good on multiple bands, and others which are tied to
a specific carrier.

LTE is often called 4G. Advanced CDMA and GSM services (high
speed, relatively) are called 3G. Basic CDMA and GSM services
are only slightly faster than a 56K modem, and are called 2G.

You might want to look at T-Mobile's $50/month 5GB data plan,
Sprint's $35/month 3GB and $50/month 6GB plans, or Virgin
Mobile's $35/month unlimited plan, where the first 2.5GB of data
are at high speed (if available) and subsequent usage in a month
is limited to 2G speeds.

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Re: Moving from 56k modem

[Richard Owlett]

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:03:47AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

My connectivity for ~3 decades has been at <= 56k.
Current ISP abandoning that market ;/

I do not wish DSL, cable, nor satellite as they restrict me to one physical
location.



You're in the US?


Yes



I'd suggest that a laptop with WiFi will work in urban areas fairly well - free
WiFi in coffee shops / malls / supermarkets / convenience stores etc.


Project Specification: Replace current 56k dial up modem with 
"object" connected via cell network.
[P.S. my nephew who has been independent I.T. consultant for 20 
yrs thinks I'm ??? ;]\\





It'll be useless outside those areas: home cable/DSL will normally come with
a Wifi router these days so a laptop / desktop will work with that.

I'm not sure whether any one of the US operators do the equivalent to FON -
free WiFi for home subscribers to their service who can then piggy back on the
service of any other subscribers

Mobile dongles are expensive and not good for relaible connectivity outside 
urban areas / areas
with really good mobile / "cell" coverage - though a
deal faster than 56k. I wouldn't want to use one to keep my system updated, for 
example.

If you've money, a satellite modem will work anywhere that isn't a Faraday cage 
where a
GPS might also work - but it is high cost bandwidth.

Hope this helps,

AndyC


I was assuming that meant connecting via cell network.
Is that correct?
What questions should I be asking?

Please note that I am strongly text, rather than graphics, oriented.

Comments &/or questions I should be asking.

Thank you.




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Systemd takes more that 1m 30sec to start firewall at boot

[Johann Spies]

I use shorewall. The shorewall-init.log shows that Shorewall took less than
2 seconds to compile and start up.  Why does systemd wait that long on boot?

This is on Jessie.

Regards
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Re: Moving from 56k modem

[Richard Owlett]

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:03:47AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

My connectivity for ~3 decades has been at <= 56k.
Current ISP abandoning that market ;/

I do not wish DSL, cable, nor satellite as they restrict me to one physical
location.



You're in the US?


Yes



I'd suggest that a laptop with WiFi will work in urban areas fairly well - free
WiFi in coffee shops / malls / supermarkets / convenience stores etc.


Project Specification: Replace current 56k dial up modem with 
"object" connected via cell network.
[P.S. my nephew who has been independent I.T. consultant for 20 
yrs thinks I'm ??? ;]





It'll be useless outside those areas: home cable/DSL will normally come with
a Wifi router these days so a laptop / desktop will work with that.

I'm not sure whether any one of the US operators do the equivalent to FON -
free WiFi for home subscribers to their service who can then piggy back on the
service of any other subscribers

Mobile dongles are expensive and not good for relaible connectivity outside 
urban areas / areas
with really good mobile / "cell" coverage - though a
deal faster than 56k. I wouldn't want to use one to keep my system updated, for 
example.

If you've money, a satellite modem will work anywhere that isn't a Faraday cage 
where a
GPS might also work - but it is high cost bandwidth.

Hope this helps,

AndyC


I was assuming that meant connecting via cell network.
Is that correct?
What questions should I be asking?

Please note that I am strongly text, rather than graphics, oriented.

Comments &/or questions I should be asking.

Thank you.




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Re: Is it possible to install older linux-headers on Debian 8

[Reco]

 Hi.

Please do not top-post.
Please do not CC me, I'm subscribed to the list.

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 17:06:09 +0530
Dhiraj Bhor  wrote:

> One quick question:
> If ata.h is missing from latest package then which file is replacement for
> it?

Looking in the problem further, I realized that I was wrong.
linux-headers-3.16-0-4-686-pae package actually provides ata.h, although
it's location is unconventional somewhat. Specifically,

/usr/src/linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae/include/config/ata.h

So, it's no wonder that scons is unable to locate the needed header.
Not is was *that* big problem for building kernel module, but I don't
recall any *userspace* program that requires that part of kernel
headers (and that's clearly userspace one as they don't write kernel
in C++).

And, the good news are - there's no need for this old packages trickery.
The bad news being - you'll need to convince scons to look the header
there. Personally I'd say 'screw it' and patch the source with the
following diff:

-#include 
-#include "/usr/src/linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae/include/config/ata.h"

Reco


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Re: Moving from 56k modem

[Richard Owlett]

Scarletdown wrote:

How about a portable wireless hotspot device and service?


I was leaning away from that solution - unsure of security 
implications when using personal hotspot.



The
way I understand how those work, you will have your Internet
service with you no matter where you are, as long as you can get
a signal from your provider.






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Re: Moving from 56k modem

[Richard Owlett]

Dan Ritter wrote:

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:03:47AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

My connectivity for ~3 decades has been at <= 56k.
Current ISP abandoning that market ;/

I do not wish DSL, cable, nor satellite as they restrict me to one
physical location.

I was assuming that meant connecting via cell network.
Is that correct?
What questions should I be asking?

Please note that I am strongly text, rather than graphics, oriented.

Comments &/or questions I should be asking.



You definitely pointed me towards "questions I should be asking". 
Thank you.




There are phones which can be hooked up via USB, cell modems
attached via either USB or ethernet, and "hotspot" devices which
attach to your network via wifi.


I have personal rather than technological reasons to avoid 
putting a phone in the mix. Initially I was thinking of a USB 
"modem" on a cell network [a local friend says "modem" is not a 
strictly accurate term but there was not time to explain - he had 
two 6 year olds wanting lunch]. I tend to be leery of personal 
hot spots over perceived [real??] security issues.




There are four major carriers in the US, which in descending
order of coverage are:

Verizon
AT&T
T-Mobile
Sprint



One has local store with polite competent staff. One runs 
annoying ads locally. The others have name-brand recognition only.




all of them cover every urban and most suburban areas. All of
them have some coverage on every major highway.

There are also a fluctuating number of MVNOs, mobile virtual
network operators. They are reliant on contracts with one or
more of the big four to provide the actual service.

Speed is variable by place, but even the worst available service
should exceed 56Kb/s.

Service is available either prepaid or postpaid. Postpaid
generally involves a 1-3 year contract.

Service is available as CDMA, GSM, or LTE.


I need to read more on those acronyms. Came across a PCMag 
article that gave a good intro/teaser. Need to read more.



 Verizon and Sprint
use CDMA and LTE, on different bands. AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM
and LTE, again on different bands. You can buy some devices
which are good on multiple bands, and others which are tied to
a specific carrier.

LTE is often called 4G. Advanced CDMA and GSM services (high
speed, relatively) are called 3G. Basic CDMA and GSM services
are only slightly faster than a 56K modem, and are called 2G.

You might want to look at T-Mobile's $50/month 5GB data plan,
Sprint's $35/month 3GB and $50/month 6GB plans, or Virgin
Mobile's $35/month unlimited plan, where the first 2.5GB of data
are at high speed (if available) and subsequent usage in a month
is limited to 2G speeds.


Speed is not a major issue - more is always better ;)




-dsr-





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RE: Nova Desktop

[Jose Martinez]

Hey, Lisi,

I'm running Gnome.  It appears to me that desktopnova is supposed to
work under gnome, but I haven't been able to get it to do so.  I did
however, just notice in the package lists package gbackground, which is
supposed to do the same thing, and is designed for Gnome, and so is
probably a better option.  I hadn't seen that package before.  I'm going
to give it a try and see if that solves the problem.

Thanks everyone for your input.

On 06/18/2015 08:08 AM, Tom Ashley wrote:
>
>
> On 06/18/2015 07:55 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Thursday 18 June 2015 11:37:18 rob wrote:
>>> On 18/06/15 10:43, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Thursday 18 June 2015 00:04:12 Jose Martinez wrote:
> Anyone know anything about the Nova Desktop application.  I have it
> installed and set it up, but it doesn't seem to affect my desktop
> background.  I have several .jpg images that I had wanted to cycle
> through the desktop background, and it seemed that Nova was just the
> ticket
 I have found references to Android and references to Ubuntu.  Are you
 sure that it works on Debian?

 Which DE are you trying to use it on and why is the DE's own
 background "manager" not adequate?

 Lisi
>>> Debian package desktopnova
>> Thanks, Rob.  But:
>>
>> Which DE are you (the OP) trying to use it on and why is the DE's own
>> background "manager" not adequate?
>>
>> Lisi
>>
>>
> I have no experience with the package but noticed the following in the
> description supplied by aptitude: "There is at least one module
> needed. Without a module this package will not work as expected! See
> packages  desktopnova-module-*. "
>
> HTH,
>
> Tom Ashley
>
>

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Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

[Ric Moore]

On 06/18/2015 03:25 AM, Petter Adsen wrote:


There are, however, no hits on bumblebee for squeeze at all, so it
won't help in this case. Maybe you could try to build it from source? At
this point that may be your only chance. If only you could do that with
the drivers...

It might also be that it is (maybe for one of the reasons I listed in
my previous mail) incompatible with Squeeze. I just don't know, sorry.


I see the same thing, https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee#From_repository
It doesn't appear to be available for sqeeze.


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Re: Screen goes black after install

[Ric Moore]

On 06/17/2015 03:46 PM, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote:

Yes John Hasler..I have already done that..the screen still goes black
after booting :(



Please don't top post.


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Re: prevent debian from sleeping

[Nicolas George]

Le decadi 30 prairial, an CCXXIII, Siard a écrit :
> But how to purge this 'screen saver'?  The only way to do this is by
> uninstalling x11-xserver-utils, I guess.

No, you would have to purge xserver-xorg-core. This is probably not what you
want.

The screen blanking and DPMS are built into the X11 server, you can not
remove them, except possibly by patching. But xset will disable them.

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Re: prevent debian from sleeping

[Siard]

Chris Bannister wrote:
> Siard wrote:
> > Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > Haines Brown wrote:
> > > > I start the x server with startx and have no desktop environment,
> > > > and have simply this in my window manager (fluxbox) startup file:
> > > > 
> > > >   xset s off
> > > >   xset -dpms
> > > 
> > > Correct me if I'm being a bit dim, but why have a screensaver
> > > installed if it is deactivated each time you start the GUI? I would
> > > suggest a saner way would be to purge the screensaver from the
> > > system.
> > 
> > xset, which is not a screensaver AFAIK, is provided by
> > x11-xserver-utils. By uninstalling that, you also loose a bunch of
> > other utils such as xmodmap, xrandr, xrdb, xsetroot, xvidtune.
> 
> I thought, from reading a previous email, that xset s off disabled the
> screensaver, I wasn't talking about the 'xset' command per se, or am I
> misunderstanding you?

There is a program named XScreenSaver. It overrules xset configuration,
but it can be purged.
After that, there is still something that the xset manpage calls 'screen
saver'.  AFAIK, it just blanks the screen.
But how to purge this 'screen saver'?  The only way to do this is by
uninstalling x11-xserver-utils, I guess.  But I'm no expert on this;
anyone else who could formulate it better?


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Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone

[Erwan David]

Le 18/06/2015 18:19, Curt a écrit :
> On 2015-06-18, Curt  wrote:
>> On 2015-06-18, Steve Greig  wrote:
>>> It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files to
>>> the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the moment). I
>>> would be happy to use the command line but when I googled that it looked
>>> very complicated.
>>>
>> There's an app called AirDroid; they ask you to sign up for god knows
>> what online, but that is uneccesary for the purposes of simple file
>> transfer.  
>>
>> Assumes you have a wireless network; the app gets a local ip address via
>> dhcp that you simply stick into the address bar of your favorite
>> browser, and off you go.
>>
>> With all the caveats that apply, of course. 
>>
>>
> Or maybe you need 'mtpfs'; do you have that installed?
>
> Description: FUSE filesystem for Media Transfer Protocol devices
> MTPfs is a FUSE filesystem that supports reading and writing from MTP
> (Media Transfer Protocol) devices, such as MP3 players, video players or
> digital cameras.
>
>
I found jmtpfs works better for me (with a wiko rainbow and a samsung S4
mini) than mtpfs


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Re: Network Manager, openvpn & DNS

[Erwan David]

Le 18/06/2015 17:09, Michael Biebl a écrit :
> Am 18.06.2015 um 15:16 schrieb Erwan David:
>> Hello, I use openvpn through NetworkManager, the server gives a DNS
>> server, however I see that it is added to the DNS of the carrier,
>> whereas I'd like it to replace, DNS of an untrusted provider being
>> untrusted.
>>
>> What is the correct way to do it ? (I can also act on the server, for
>> which I am admin)
> Start nm-connection-editor, open the settings for your OpenVPN
> connection. Switch to the tab "IPv4 Settings", and choose Method
> addresses only. Then you can add your own preferred DNS servers.
>
>
Rather than duplicate the settings on all clients, I'd prefer them to
use the settings sent by the server. Your solution would also force me
to duplicate the routes settings, with all the risks of
desynchronization between client and server.

If it os not possible to use the server's setting I'll do like this,with
a big risk at next change in config.




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Re: Screen goes black after install

[Patrick Bartek]

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote:

> Thanks for your reply Mark Allums..
> 
> I want to use pure command line...I don't want any GUI services to
> load when debian boots..Is there a way to remove all GUI service?.
> Is the video card driver required when we use command line??

The easiest way to remove X and ALL GUI stuff is to reinstall.
Really!  Choose Expert mode or get the NetInstall CD and install only
the Base System, a minimal, command-line only set up that you can
build the system you need off of.

Your black screen problem has happened to me in the past.  I discovered
it was caused (in my case) by the X server being called to run in a
resolution not support by the graphic card.  A bug in the installer?
Setting a supported resolution fixed it.

B


> 
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Mark Allums  wrote:
> 
> > On 06/17/2015 10:12 AM, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote:
> >
> >> Hello everyone.
> >>
> >> I recently bought and installed a PCI ATI Rage 128 Video card on
> >> my pc. I then installed Debian Jessie on the pc.
> >> After booting the following lines appear:
> >>
> >> Loading, Please wait...
> >> fsck from util-linux 2.25.2
> >> /dev/sda5: clean, 48855/7553024 files, 821115/38202368 blocks
> >> _
> >>
> >> And then the screen goes black..nothing appears.
> >> I have tested the video card on windows and it works well.
> >>
> >> I also want to run debian on non-graphical mode..I did not install
> >> any desktop environment.I want to run it on command line as a
> >> server.
> >>
> >
> > Press Ctrl-Alt-F1 and see if a login prompt appears.  If it does,
> > the machine is trying to start X and failing.  I would try to get X
> > running, but if you don't want X, you should probably check and see
> > if a DM (such as lightdm) is installed, then go from there.


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Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone

[Curt]

On 2015-06-18, Curt  wrote:
> On 2015-06-18, Steve Greig  wrote:
>>
>> It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files to
>> the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the moment). I
>> would be happy to use the command line but when I googled that it looked
>> very complicated.
>>
>
> There's an app called AirDroid; they ask you to sign up for god knows
> what online, but that is uneccesary for the purposes of simple file
> transfer.  
>
> Assumes you have a wireless network; the app gets a local ip address via
> dhcp that you simply stick into the address bar of your favorite
> browser, and off you go.
>
> With all the caveats that apply, of course. 
>
>

Or maybe you need 'mtpfs'; do you have that installed?

Description: FUSE filesystem for Media Transfer Protocol devices
MTPfs is a FUSE filesystem that supports reading and writing from MTP
(Media Transfer Protocol) devices, such as MP3 players, video players or
digital cameras.


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Re: Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone

[Curt]

On 2015-06-18, Steve Greig  wrote:
>
> It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files to
> the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the moment). I
> would be happy to use the command line but when I googled that it looked
> very complicated.
>

There's an app called AirDroid; they ask you to sign up for god knows
what online, but that is uneccesary for the purposes of simple file
transfer.  

Assumes you have a wireless network; the app gets a local ip address via
dhcp that you simply stick into the address bar of your favorite
browser, and off you go.

With all the caveats that apply, of course. 


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Re: prevent debian from sleeping

[Chris Bannister]

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 04:29:36PM +0200, Siard wrote:
> Chris Bannister wrote:
> > Haines Brown wrote:
> > > I start the x server with startx and have no desktop environment,
> > > and have simply this in my window manager (fluxbox) startup file:
> > > 
> > >   xset s off
> > >   xset -dpms
> > 
> > Correct me if I'm being a bit dim, but why have a screensaver
> > installed if it is deactivated each time you start the GUI? I would
> > suggest a saner way would be to purge the screensaver from the system.
> 
> xset, which is not a screensaver AFAIK, is provided by x11-xserver-utils.
> By uninstalling that, you also loose a bunch of other utils such as
> xmodmap, xrandr, xrdb, xsetroot, xvidtune.

I thought, from reading a previous email, that xset s off disabled the
screensaver, I wasn't talking about the 'xset' command per se, or am I
misunderstanding you?

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Re: Network Manager, openvpn & DNS

[Michael Biebl]

Am 18.06.2015 um 15:16 schrieb Erwan David:
> Hello, I use openvpn through NetworkManager, the server gives a DNS
> server, however I see that it is added to the DNS of the carrier,
> whereas I'd like it to replace, DNS of an untrusted provider being
> untrusted.
> 
> What is the correct way to do it ? (I can also act on the server, for
> which I am admin)

Start nm-connection-editor, open the settings for your OpenVPN
connection. Switch to the tab "IPv4 Settings", and choose Method
addresses only. Then you can add your own preferred DNS servers.


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Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....

[Michael Fothergill]

don't recall you saying what graphics hardware you have but I think
it is a radeon?  What is your lspci entry for it?

  lspci | grep VGA

​It is an AMD Kaveri box Radeon R7 200 series​ (APU)

http://www.eteknix.com/complete-amd-kaveri-review-a10-7850k-a10-7700k-a8-7600/

I have the A10-7850k APU

​Regards

MF​

Re: prevent debian from sleeping

[Siard]

Chris Bannister wrote:
> Haines Brown wrote:
> > I start the x server with startx and have no desktop environment,
> > and have simply this in my window manager (fluxbox) startup file:
> > 
> >   xset s off
> >   xset -dpms
> 
> Correct me if I'm being a bit dim, but why have a screensaver
> installed if it is deactivated each time you start the GUI? I would
> suggest a saner way would be to purge the screensaver from the system.

xset, which is not a screensaver AFAIK, is provided by x11-xserver-utils.
By uninstalling that, you also loose a bunch of other utils such as
xmodmap, xrandr, xrdb, xsetroot, xvidtune.


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Transferring files from Debian computer to android phone

[Steve Greig]

When I connect my android phone to my debian computer I get a choice of
opening gwenview or file manager. I have been able to transfer photos from
the phone to the computer using gwenview which is great but I can not
transfer files from the computer to the phone using the file manager.

The setting on the phone I have when trying to transfer files from computer
to phone is 'connect as Media device (MTP)'. On the computer I chose the
option: 'open with file manager'. This opens a directory (presumably from
the phone) called Camera. If I click on that I get two directories:
'Samsung FT.../Note' and 'USB PTP Class Camera'. These two directories
either are one and the same directory or they have identical contents
because clicking on either of them gives the same result which is two
directories and two .txt files. The two directories are called
store_00010001 and store_00020002.

When I click on these directories Dolphin sais it is initializing Camera
and loading files but nothing appears.

It would be great to have any ideas which could help me transfer files to
the phone (I am particularly keen to move music files at the moment). I
would be happy to use the command line but when I googled that it looked
very complicated.

Thanks, Steve

Re: Fwd: updating debian warnings

[Steve Greig]

Apper has now run updating my system without any warnings. I am surprised
because after making the changes to sources.list I tried to update and I
still got the warnings. I then restarted the computer and tried again and
still got the warnings. Then I emailed the debian users list and after
getting Johnathan Dowland's reply but without doing anything to the system
I tried again and this time there were no warnings and it updated fine. I
have pasted the output from apt-key list below but imagine is no longer
relevant. Thanks v much for all the help on this.

The reason I tried to update is because I have not been able to transfer
music files from my debian computer to my android phone and I thought it
possible that an update might help. Unfortunately it has not helped so I am
going to post a new thread. I really do appreciate the help and try and
google stuff and work it out as much as possible before posting a thread,
Steve

root@debian:/home/steve# apt-key list
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg

pub   2048R/94558F59 2012-06-25 [expires: 2015-06-25]
uid  Spotify Public Repository Signing Key <
operati...@spotify.com>

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d//debian-archive-squeeze-automatic.gpg

pub   4096R/473041FA 2010-08-27 [expires: 2018-03-05]
uid  Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (6.0/squeeze) <
ftpmas...@debian.org>

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d//debian-archive-squeeze-stable.gpg
-
pub   4096R/B98321F9 2010-08-07 [expires: 2017-08-05]
uid  Squeeze Stable Release Key <
debian-rele...@lists.debian.org>

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d//debian-archive-wheezy-automatic.gpg
---
pub   4096R/46925553 2012-04-27 [expires: 2020-04-25]
uid  Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy) <
ftpmas...@debian.org>

/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d//debian-archive-wheezy-stable.gpg

pub   4096R/65FFB764 2012-05-08 [expires: 2019-05-07]
uid  Wheezy Stable Release Key <
debian-rele...@lists.debian.org>

root@debian:/home/steve#

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Jonathan Dowland  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 01:22:36PM +0100, Steve Greig wrote:
> > I put a # in front of 2 of the lines as I think you suggested in order to
> > comment them out but I am still getting the same problem. I have pasted
> the
> > sources.list file below as it currently is.
>
> OK thanks for doing that. Can you paste the error that you get when you
> try the
> update (I can't recall what it looks like but I'm wondering whether it
> includes
> any information about the key used to sign the packages that it does not
> trust)
> and the output of the following command, run as root (either via sudo if
> you
> use that, or su - first):
>
> apt-key list
>
> This will show which keys your system does trust, and we can then try to
> figure out what is missing.
>
> > I am very new to vi and I did not know how to delete characters (I
> wanted to
> > delete the first # which I think I must have put there by a mistake. I
> > imagine it does no harm?)
>
> x deletes a character, or dd to delete a line. But the # on its own will
> do no harm :)
>
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Network Manager, openvpn & DNS

[Erwan David]

Hello, I use openvpn through NetworkManager, the server gives a DNS
server, however I see that it is added to the DNS of the carrier,
whereas I'd like it to replace, DNS of an untrusted provider being
untrusted.

What is the correct way to do it ? (I can also act on the server, for
which I am admin)

Thank you.


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Re: PHP-FPM socket disappearing

[Proxy One]

Hi Santiago!

On 2015-Jun-18 00:03, Santiago Vila wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:30:33PM +0200, Proxy One wrote:
> > I installed Jessie on my new server few days ago and moved website that run
> > previously on Centos 5. I'm using Apache and PHP-FPM. [...]
> > [...]
> > 
> 
> If you are using jessie, your Apache version is >= 2.4, so you could
> ditch fastcgi and use mod_proxy and mod_proxy_fcgi instead:
> 
> https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHP-FPM
> 
> This is my very short recipe for that:
> 
> a2enmod proxy
> a2enmod proxy_fcgi
> 
> Edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/yourdomain.conf and include
> something like this:
> 
>   
> SetHandler "proxy:unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock|fcgi://localhost/"
>   
>   DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm
> 
> Then "service apache2 restart".
> 
> 
> [ It worked for me, but then I switched to nginx shortly after that ].

I just switched to proxy_fcgi and it's working for me too. To be honest,
it was strange to find that libapache2-mod-fastcgi was in non-free
reporistory, but I just shrugged and installed it, as it was the way of
using php-fpm with Apache I used earlier. Good to know I can remove
libapache2-mod-fastcgi now.

Thanks!
 


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Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....

[Michael Fothergill]

​​Seeing an Xorg.0.log file from a normal boot would be good, plus the
complete dmesg output.

Cheers,
Sven

The ​ Xorg.0.log file is found here:

http://paste.debian.net/237917/

The dmesg file was empty.

Regards

MF

Re: Nova Desktop

[Tom Ashley]

On 06/18/2015 07:55 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 18 June 2015 11:37:18 rob wrote:

On 18/06/15 10:43, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 18 June 2015 00:04:12 Jose Martinez wrote:

Anyone know anything about the Nova Desktop application.  I have it
installed and set it up, but it doesn't seem to affect my desktop
background.  I have several .jpg images that I had wanted to cycle
through the desktop background, and it seemed that Nova was just the
ticket

I have found references to Android and references to Ubuntu.  Are you
sure that it works on Debian?

Which DE are you trying to use it on and why is the DE's own
background "manager" not adequate?

Lisi

Debian package desktopnova

Thanks, Rob.  But:

Which DE are you (the OP) trying to use it on and why is the DE's own
background "manager" not adequate?

Lisi


I have no experience with the package but noticed the following in the 
description supplied by aptitude: "There is at least one module needed. 
Without a module this package will not work as expected! See packages  
desktopnova-module-*. "


HTH,

Tom Ashley


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Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....

[Michael Fothergill]

>
>
> >
> > > ctrl C etc does not seem to drop down a command line interface etc.
> >
> > Try Ctrl + Alt + F1
>^^
>


> That should have been F2, sorry.
>

​crtl alt f2 worked thanks

MF
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Re: prevent debian from sleeping

[Chris Bannister]

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 05:34:17AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:41:15AM -0400, Jack Dangler wrote:
> > Hi, all - 
> > Just noticed that my deb sessions are going to sleep. I setup
> > my .xinitrc file to prevent it using xset, but no joy.
> > 
> > The .xinitrc contains the following - 
> > xset s off  # don't activate screensaver
> > xset -dpms  # disable DPMS (energy star) features
> > xset s noblank  # don't blank the video device
> > 
> > exec /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager # start lxde
> 
> I start the x server with startx and have no desktop environment, and
> have simply this in my window manager (fluxbox) startup file:
> 
>   xset s off
>   xset -dpms

Correct me if I'm being a bit dim, but why have a screensaver installed
if it is deactivated each time you start the GUI? I would suggest a
saner way would be to purge the screensaver from the system.

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Re: PHP-FPM socket disappearing

[Proxy One]

Hi Bob!

On 2015-Jun-17 16:19, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Proxy One wrote:
> > I installed Jessie on my new server few days ago and moved website
> > that run previously on Centos 5.
> 
> Welcome! :-)

Thanks! I'm actually using Debian few last years. :)
> 
> > I'm using Apache and PHP-FPM.
> 
> I have become an Nginx + php5-fpm advocate in recent years.  If you
> decide you would like to give it a try post something and I will show
> my configurations for it.  (Not that I am a master of it by any means.
> Just a daily user of it.)

I'm using Nginx myself for a few other machines, but this one must stay
with Apache. There are lot of rewrite rules, that I couldn't adapt to
Nginx.

> > Currently, there is only one website on that server, but I still
> > configured pool for it. What's happening is that, after some time,
> > at least once a day, socket that should be listening for that user
> > disappears, ...
> >...
> > Looking at /dev/shm/ directory, user-php.sock is really missing, but
> > default php5-fpm.sock is still there. 
> 
> Odd!
> 
> > I have this block in VirtualHost section for that website:
> > 
> > Alias /php5-fcgi /dev/shm/pdfconve-php.fcgi
> > 
> >...
> > And there is also 
> > FastCGIExternalServer /dev/shm/user-php.fcgi -socket /dev/shm/user-php.sock 
> > -pass-header Authorization -flush -appConnTimeout 2 -idle-timeout 60
> > in apache conf.
> 
> Hmm...  Is that right?  It is working for you so it must be.  And
> since the disappearing fpm socket shouldn't be related I am going to
> ignore my ignorance of the above here.

I put that line in conf-enabled/php5-fpm.conf. Otherwise, Apache
wouldn't know it should go to /dev/shm/user-php.sock for fcgi requests. 

> > Pool configured:
> > 
> > [user]
> > listen = /dev/shm/user-php.sock
> > listen.owner = user
> > listen.group = www-data
> > listen.mode = 0660
> > user = user
> > group = user
> > pm = dynamic
> > pm.max_children = 40
> > pm.max_requests = 2048
> > pm.start_servers = 30
> > pm.min_spare_servers = 10
> > pm.max_spare_servers = 35
> > request_terminate_timeout = 305
> 
> Why use /dev/shm/user-php.sock as the socket path?  The Jessie-style
> location would be in /var/run/user-php.sock AFAICS.  (I don't see how
> that would be related to your socket dissappearing.)

I used that path on Centos machines and it worked. I saw that Debian
uses different default path, but figured it should work either way. I
also used /dev/shm so it's created in RAM (tmpfs). I figured it would be
quicker this way.


> > There is nothing interesting in php-fpm error log. There are some errors 
> > like this:
> > NOTICE: [pool user] child 32719 exited with code 0 after 76324.921427 
> > seconds from start
> > 
> > followed by this line:
> >  NOTICE: [pool user] child 29909 started
> > 
> > but I don't think that's relevant. 
> 
> Is that just hitting your max_requests limit and exiting?  In which
> case that would be normal operation.
> 
> > Any idea why this is happening and how to prevent it?
> 
> I am running php5-fpm on several servers.  I as a matter of course set
> up my own custom pool configurations with a different socket name.
> But always in /var/run.  I have not had any problems with with the
> socket disappearing.  One is on Jessie 8, one on Sid, the rest on
> Wheezy 7.  I haven't seen any endemic problem assocatied with php5-fpm.
> 
> The first thing I would try is to move the socket location out of
> /dev/shm (which is symlinked to /run/shm in Jessie 8) and see if the
> behavior stops.  If so then it must be related to that location.  If
> not then it rules that out as a suspect.

I changed path, so all socket are in /var/run now. Will see if that
solves the problem. 

> I would tend to also set up a monitor that would run very often, once
> every minute wouldn't be too often, to check for the presence of the
> socket file.  If it dissappears then have it notify me immediately so
> I could look to see what else happened around that same time period.
> Because if it is getting removed I would think that something must be
> removing it and that something will hopefully leave an audit trail.
> 
> Bob

Good idea. I usually use Zabbix to monitor websites uptime, but PCU on
that server just died.

Thanks for your help, Bob! Much appreciated. 




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Re: Fwd: updating debian warnings

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 01:22:36PM +0100, Steve Greig wrote:
> I put a # in front of 2 of the lines as I think you suggested in order to
> comment them out but I am still getting the same problem. I have pasted the
> sources.list file below as it currently is.

OK thanks for doing that. Can you paste the error that you get when you try the
update (I can't recall what it looks like but I'm wondering whether it includes
any information about the key used to sign the packages that it does not trust)
and the output of the following command, run as root (either via sudo if you
use that, or su - first):

apt-key list

This will show which keys your system does trust, and we can then try to
figure out what is missing.

> I am very new to vi and I did not know how to delete characters (I wanted to
> delete the first # which I think I must have put there by a mistake. I
> imagine it does no harm?)

x deletes a character, or dd to delete a line. But the # on its own will
do no harm :)


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Re: Fwd: updating debian warnings

[Steve Greig]

I put a # in front of 2 of the lines as I think you suggested in order to
comment them out but I am still getting the same problem. I have pasted the
sources.list file below as it currently is. I am very new to vi and I did
not know how to delete characters (I wanted to delete the first # which I
think I must have put there by a mistake. I imagine it does no harm?)

#

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD
Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main

#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD
Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main

deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main

deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

# wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main

#deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free

On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> On Wednesday 17 June 2015 00:27:05 Steve Greig wrote:
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Steve Greig 
> > Date: Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 8:43 AM
> > Subject: Re: updating debian warnings
> > To: Brian 
> >
> >
> > Thanks for you responses. I have posted contents of etc/apt/sources.list
> > followed by output from dpkg -l debian-archive-keyring below:
> >
> > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD
> > Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main
> >
> > deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 kde-CD
> Binary-1
> > 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy main
> >
> > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
> > deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
> >
> > deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
> > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
> >
> > # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
> > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
> > deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
> >
> > deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free
> >
> > AND:
> >
> > steve@debian:~$ dpkg -l debian-archive-keyring
> > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> >
> >
> Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pen
> >d
> >
> > |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> > |
> > ||/ Name   VersionArchitecture   Description
> >
> >
> +++-==-==-==-==
> >=== ii  debian-archive-key 2012.4 all
> > GnuPG archive keys of the Debian archive
> > steve@debian:~$
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:33 AM, Brian  wrote:
> > > On Mon 15 Jun 2015 at 23:44:50 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > > On Monday 15 June 2015 23:01:05 Steve Greig wrote:
> > > > > I tried to update debian (my first time) and Apper quickly warned
> me
> > >
> > > that I
> > >
> > > > > was about to install unsigned packages and that it was impossible
> to
> > >
> > > verify
> > >
> > > > > if they came from a trusted source: Do you want to continue? I
> > > > > decided
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > > > > take a risk and clicked 'yes'. This led to another warning window
> > >
> > > requiring
> > >
> > > > > me to reenter my password. At this point I bottled out and
> cancelled
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > > update.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would have thought that only trusted software would be put into
> the
> > > > > updates so was surprised by this and would like to ask for a bit of
> > > > > explanation and also advice on how to proceed.
> > > >
> > > > What have you got in your sources list?
> > >
> > > He could also post what he gets for
> > >
> > >   dpkg -l debian-archive-keyring
> > >
> > > while he at it.
>
> I should comment out the second line if you have full internet access.
>
> As for warnings, you have an unofficial repository in the list, for which
> Debian cannot be blamed.  It may well be putting untrusted software into
> teh
> updates!  If you have not got the key for it, it would be untrusted.  Only
> add teh key if oyu are sure oyu trust it!!
>
> Comment out the spotify line and the cd line, then try updating again.
> Post
> any error messages.
>
> Lisi
>
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Re: Problems with 32 bit Jessie and Mate DE

[Richard Owlett]

Curt wrote:

On 2015-06-17, Bob Proulx  wrote:



For example, to set the time and date to 15:00 on 1st February 2014:
 sudo date 020115002014


That worked - it took effect after a reboot.


That's strange; I always thought you had to set the hardware clock
(hwclock) for the modified date and time to survive a reboot.


After a reboot I am sure the boot time hwclock set the time.  The
system time set by date evaporates when the system shuts down.  System
time is not preserved across reboots.  But at boot time the boot time
script /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh sets the time from the hardware clock.


The OP set the time and date with 'date' and said it 'worked' after a
reboot; this puzzled me and puzzles me still.  There must be a
misapprehension somewhere.


Clarification:
date had echoed the time I had just entered. However the correct 
time did not appear on the top right corner of the desktop until 
after a reboot {did not try a log out/log in sequence}.






Best is to install ntp and have it set the time from the network at
boot time.

   apt-get install ntp


This was the best option before systemd, but now for some (desktop
stand-alone guys and gals) it seems like systemd-timesyncd might be the
better choice (implements only the client-side, lower overhead,
eliminates the need of installing an extraneous program).


If you don't have a network then of course ntp can't work.  For
systems such as the Raspberry Pi that don't have a hardware clock the
time is set to a best guess based upon the most recent timestamp on a
statefile in the file system to keep time moving forward.



https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-timesyncd





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Debian8 as guest VM on latest proxmox with I210 on board and glusterfs

[Roman]

Hi there,


I've got strange problem: I'm just not able to install jessie on Proxmox
with I210 NIC onboard and glusterfs as storga backend for VM virtual disks.

If I use raw storage type, the installation process takes around 4 hours.
If I use qcow2 storage type, then installation process aborts on pretty
random step, but most often on the step of choosing the mirror. Once I had
luck to install it, but the system was not usable: corrupted binaries, even
apache2 was not able to startup and some sh commands said, there is no such
file.

This only happens to D8. D7 installs very well. The kernel on Virtual Host
(proxmox) is:
2.6.32-39-pve

Few times I've got luck installing D8 and those VMs still working. So seems
like problem is only during the installation.

I've got other nodes with another NICs and there are no such problems.
I did tests with iperf between gluster server and proxmox node.. no
problems.

Any ideas?

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Re: forcedeth driver - bug?

[tomas]

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On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:12:49PM +1200, Bruce Ward wrote:
> Installing Jessie 8.1.0 on an Asrock N68-VGS3 FX motherboard. This
> has "Giga PHY RTL8211CL" ethernet, which lspci reports as:
> "00:07.0 Bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)"
> 
> It uses the forcedeth driver module, which seems to need parameters
> "msi=0 msix=0" to work. If I blacklist the driver, I can load it
> with "modprobe forcedeth msi=0 msix=0" and all is fine. However, it
> needs this after every reboot and I have not found a way to
> successfully load the module automatically. Loaded automatically it
> a) cannot connect to the network, and
> b) locks the system solid if I try to unload it!
> 
> Is there some way over this problem or is this a bug? If a bug, who
> should know about it?

Perhaps I'm not reading your mail correctly, but isn't that in the
realm of the modprobe.d configs?

- From the modprobe.d manpage:

NAME
   modprobe.d - Configuration directory for modprobe

SYNOPSIS
   /usr/lib/modprobe.d/*.conf

   /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf

   /run/modprobe.d/*.conf

DESCRIPTION
   [...]

COMMANDS
   [...]
   options modulename option...
   This command allows you to add options to the module
   modulename (which might be an alias) every time it is
   inserted into the kernel: whether directly (using modprobe
   modulename or because the module being inserted depends
   on this module.

   All options are added together: they can come from an
   option for the module itself, for an alias, and on the
   command line.

An entry "options forcedeth ms=0 msix=0" in some /etc/modprobe.d/foo.conf
should do thr trick, no?

Of course, perhaps you tried that already and I'm mis-interpreting
your question completely. Apologies if that's the case.

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Re: Nova Desktop

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 18 June 2015 11:37:18 rob wrote:
> On 18/06/15 10:43, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Thursday 18 June 2015 00:04:12 Jose Martinez wrote:
> >> Anyone know anything about the Nova Desktop application.  I have it
> >> installed and set it up, but it doesn't seem to affect my desktop
> >> background.  I have several .jpg images that I had wanted to cycle
> >> through the desktop background, and it seemed that Nova was just the
> >> ticket
> >
> > I have found references to Android and references to Ubuntu.  Are you
> > sure that it works on Debian?
> >
> > Which DE are you trying to use it on and why is the DE's own
> > background "manager" not adequate?
> >
> > Lisi
>
> Debian package desktopnova

Thanks, Rob.  But:

Which DE are you (the OP) trying to use it on and why is the DE's own 
background "manager" not adequate?

Lisi


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Re: Debian don't detect blank (empty) DVDs

[Michael Lange]

Hi,

On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:34:31 -0600
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Markos wrote:
> > My Debian Squeeze can read burned DVDs but doesn't detect blank DVDs,
> > so I can't burn iso images.
> > Any suggestion?
> 
> When I ran into that very same problem the problem was the new media I
> bought.  There are only a very few manufacturers of blank media.  Be
> that as it may be at least with cd-r disks the laser parameters are
> mapped from the media manufacturer through known tables.  If I used
> older media that I had that worked previously then everything worked
> fine.  But if I tried to use the new media then I couldn't write them.
> 
> The only solution I know is to upgrade the dvd writer.  But first you
> might try any older media that you still have hanging around.  If
> older media works but newer media does not then you likely have the
> same problem.
> 
> If there was a way to upgrade the firmware of your dvd writer that
> would probably improve the situation too.

One thing you maybe should check before throwing away the drive is
that you might accidentally have bought the wrong media type for your
drive, i.e. DVD-R for a drive that supports only DVD+R or vice versa.

If that has been ruled out, maybe using Joerg Schilling's cdrtools
instead of debian's cdrkit could help. Some years ago I had a similar
problem with a drive which sometimes stopped halfway with weird error
messages when I tried to burn a CD with cdrkit, with cdrtools it worked
fine. Unfortunately due to licensing issues you would have to install
cdrtools manually, which is usually quite easy, but nevertheless...

Regards

Michael

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Re: Is it possible to install older linux-headers on Debian 8

[Dhiraj Bhor]

One quick question:
If ata.h is missing from latest package then which file is replacement for
it?
May be i need to ask this on libc-help mailing list but asking if anyone
knows about it.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Dhiraj Bhor  wrote:

> I am not in position to take first option.
> I have tried second option but it gave me error like
> *$ sudo dpkg -i linux-kernel-headers_2.6.18-7_i386.deb*
> Selecting previously unselected package linux-kernel-headers.
> dpkg: regarding linux-kernel-headers_2.6.18-7_i386.deb containing
> linux-kernel-headers:
>  linux-libc-dev:i386 conflicts with linux-kernel-headers
>   linux-kernel-headers (version 2.6.18-7) is to be installed.
>
> dpkg: error processing archive linux-kernel-headers_2.6.18-7_i386.deb
> (--install):
>  conflicting packages - not installing linux-kernel-headers
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  linux-kernel-headers_2.6.18-7_i386.deb
>
>
> Googling does not show much help.
> Do i need to do something else?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Reco  wrote:
>
>>  Hi.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 04:57:56PM +0530, Dhiraj Bhor wrote:
>> > Hey,
>> > Can anyone redirect me to correct link or clue?
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Dhiraj Bhor 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I have one build system which is legacy and  i am just compiling
>> the older code on new debian 8 machine.
>> > Its a scons build and when i started the build, i got following
>> error.
>> > scons: done reading SConscript files.
>> > scons: Building targets ...
>> > scons: building associated BuildDir targets: OUTPUT/
>> > C++ OUTPUT/MyCppFile.o
>> > SOURCE/MyCppFile.cpp:35:23: fatal error: linux/ata.h: No such file
>> or directory
>> >  #include 
>> >^
>> > compilation terminated.
>> > scons: *** [OUTPUT/MyCppFile.o] Error 1
>> > scons: building terminated because of errors.
>> > Makefile:116: recipe for target 'test' failed
>> > make: *** [test] Error 2
>> >
>> > I searched on internet but no clue.
>> > I have linux-headers installed and here is output:
>> > $ dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
>> > ii  linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae 3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1
>>  i386 Header files for Linux 3.16.0-4-686-pae
>> > ii  linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common  3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1
>>  i386 Common header files for Linux 3.16.0-4
>> >
>> > Can someone help in this?
>>
>>  should translate to /usr/include/linux/ata.h, unless scons
>> does some black magic with includes location.
>>
>> /usr/include/linux belongs to linux-libc-dev package, not kernel
>> headers.
>>
>> Since co-installing different versions of linux-libc-dev is not possible
>> in current stable Debian (jessie), you have the following options:
>>
>> 1) Use debootstap to make a chroot of older Debian version (presumably,
>> squeeze or older, as wheezy's linux-libc-dev does not have linux/ata.h).
>>
>> 2) Try to install an old linux-libc-dev (presumably, from squeeze),
>> possibly breaking your current installation beyond repair.
>>
>> Reco
>>
>>
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Re: Is it possible to install older linux-headers on Debian 8

[Dhiraj Bhor]

I am not in position to take first option.
I have tried second option but it gave me error like
*$ sudo dpkg -i linux-kernel-headers_2.6.18-7_i386.deb*
Selecting previously unselected package linux-kernel-headers.
dpkg: regarding linux-kernel-headers_2.6.18-7_i386.deb containing
linux-kernel-headers:
 linux-libc-dev:i386 conflicts with linux-kernel-headers
  linux-kernel-headers (version 2.6.18-7) is to be installed.

dpkg: error processing archive linux-kernel-headers_2.6.18-7_i386.deb
(--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing linux-kernel-headers
Errors were encountered while processing:
 linux-kernel-headers_2.6.18-7_i386.deb


Googling does not show much help.
Do i need to do something else?



On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Reco  wrote:

>  Hi.
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 04:57:56PM +0530, Dhiraj Bhor wrote:
> > Hey,
> > Can anyone redirect me to correct link or clue?
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Dhiraj Bhor 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have one build system which is legacy and  i am just compiling the
> older code on new debian 8 machine.
> > Its a scons build and when i started the build, i got following
> error.
> > scons: done reading SConscript files.
> > scons: Building targets ...
> > scons: building associated BuildDir targets: OUTPUT/
> > C++ OUTPUT/MyCppFile.o
> > SOURCE/MyCppFile.cpp:35:23: fatal error: linux/ata.h: No such file
> or directory
> >  #include 
> >^
> > compilation terminated.
> > scons: *** [OUTPUT/MyCppFile.o] Error 1
> > scons: building terminated because of errors.
> > Makefile:116: recipe for target 'test' failed
> > make: *** [test] Error 2
> >
> > I searched on internet but no clue.
> > I have linux-headers installed and here is output:
> > $ dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
> > ii  linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae 3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1
>  i386 Header files for Linux 3.16.0-4-686-pae
> > ii  linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common  3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1
>  i386 Common header files for Linux 3.16.0-4
> >
> > Can someone help in this?
>
>  should translate to /usr/include/linux/ata.h, unless scons
> does some black magic with includes location.
>
> /usr/include/linux belongs to linux-libc-dev package, not kernel
> headers.
>
> Since co-installing different versions of linux-libc-dev is not possible
> in current stable Debian (jessie), you have the following options:
>
> 1) Use debootstap to make a chroot of older Debian version (presumably,
> squeeze or older, as wheezy's linux-libc-dev does not have linux/ata.h).
>
> 2) Try to install an old linux-libc-dev (presumably, from squeeze),
> possibly breaking your current installation beyond repair.
>
> Reco
>
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forcedeth driver - bug?

[Bruce Ward]

Installing Jessie 8.1.0 on an Asrock N68-VGS3 FX motherboard. This has 
"Giga PHY RTL8211CL" ethernet, which lspci reports as:

"00:07.0 Bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)"

It uses the forcedeth driver module, which seems to need parameters
"msi=0 msix=0" to work. If I blacklist the driver, I can load it with 
"modprobe forcedeth msi=0 msix=0" and all is fine. However, it needs 
this after every reboot and I have not found a way to successfully load 
the module automatically. Loaded automatically it

a) cannot connect to the network, and
b) locks the system solid if I try to unload it!

Is there some way over this problem or is this a bug? If a bug, who 
should know about it?


Note: the same behaviour in my Wheezy (not surprising when it is the 
same version of driver module), but I had hoped it would be fixed in Jessie.


Bruce
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Re: Nova Desktop

[rob]

On 18/06/15 10:43, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 18 June 2015 00:04:12 Jose Martinez wrote:

Anyone know anything about the Nova Desktop application.  I have it
installed and set it up, but it doesn't seem to affect my desktop
background.  I have several .jpg images that I had wanted to cycle
through the desktop background, and it seemed that Nova was just the
ticket


I have found references to Android and references to Ubuntu.  Are you sure
that it works on Debian?

Which DE are you trying to use it on and why is the DE's own
background "manager" not adequate?

Lisi



Debian package desktopnova

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Re: Nova Desktop

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 18 June 2015 00:04:12 Jose Martinez wrote:
> Anyone know anything about the Nova Desktop application.  I have it
> installed and set it up, but it doesn't seem to affect my desktop
> background.  I have several .jpg images that I had wanted to cycle
> through the desktop background, and it seemed that Nova was just the
> ticket

I have found references to Android and references to Ubuntu.  Are you sure 
that it works on Debian?  

Which DE are you trying to use it on and why is the DE's own 
background "manager" not adequate?

Lisi


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Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Wed, 2015-06-17 at 16:06 -0700, Paul Ausbeck wrote:
anyone have any insight into how one can build the identical Debian 
> 
> binary to that installed?

My previous reply:

"It definitively sounds like a hardware problem, but I just wanted to
address the above. Debian have quite a few -dbg packages. For emacs
there is emacs24-dbg"

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Re: Problems with 32 bit Jessie and Mate DE

[Curt]

On 2015-06-17, Bob Proulx  wrote:
>
>> >> For example, to set the time and date to 15:00 on 1st February 2014:
>> >> sudo date 020115002014
>> >
>> > That worked - it took effect after a reboot.
>>
>> That's strange; I always thought you had to set the hardware clock
>> (hwclock) for the modified date and time to survive a reboot.
>
> After a reboot I am sure the boot time hwclock set the time.  The
> system time set by date evaporates when the system shuts down.  System
> time is not preserved across reboots.  But at boot time the boot time
> script /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh sets the time from the hardware clock.

The OP set the time and date with 'date' and said it 'worked' after a
reboot; this puzzled me and puzzles me still.  There must be a
misapprehension somewhere.

> Best is to install ntp and have it set the time from the network at
> boot time.
>
>   apt-get install ntp

This was the best option before systemd, but now for some (desktop
stand-alone guys and gals) it seems like systemd-timesyncd might be the
better choice (implements only the client-side, lower overhead,
eliminates the need of installing an extraneous program).

> If you don't have a network then of course ntp can't work.  For
> systems such as the Raspberry Pi that don't have a hardware clock the
> time is set to a best guess based upon the most recent timestamp on a
> statefile in the file system to keep time moving forward.
>

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-timesyncd


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Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

[Petter Adsen]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:07:47 +0800
Bret Busby  wrote:

> On 18/06/2015, Petter Adsen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > As to your problem with bumblebee, I think Optimus support is
> > something that is fairly recent, and might well have come after
> > Squeeze. Maybe you will find it in backports?
> >
> 
> A problem is that, and, I am not sure whether I indicated this in a
> previous post with commands responses output, as the sources.list file
> content showed, I had included the backports text line, and, commented
> it out, in the sources.list file,
> 
> "
> # deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian squeeze-backports main
> contrib non-free "
> 
> as, with that line operational  in the sources.list file, apt
> consistently returned a "Not Found" type error, for the backports
> path.
> 
> The backports path is as cited on one of the web pages with
> instructions for installing bumblebee.
> 
> I am not sure, but I think that backports for squeeze, may have been
> eliminated, as part of the LTS process.

Go to https://packages.debian.org , and you can search for packages. At
the very top of the page, you can limit your search to a particular
suite or architecture, and squeeze-backports is listed there. So it
should exist. Maybe it doesn't exist on the mirror you are redirected
to, try a few specific ones.

There are, however, no hits on bumblebee for squeeze at all, so it
won't help in this case. Maybe you could try to build it from source? At
this point that may be your only chance. If only you could do that with
the drivers...

It might also be that it is (maybe for one of the reasons I listed in
my previous mail) incompatible with Squeeze. I just don't know, sorry.

Petter

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Re: I upgraded from jessie to stretch and messed up I used the dist-upgrade command....

[Petter Adsen]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015 08:44:22 +0200
Petter Adsen  wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 23:09:31 +0100
> Michael Fothergill  wrote:
> 
> > On 16 June 2015 at 21:40, Sven Joachim  wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2015-06-16 21:41 +0200, Bob Proulx wrote:
> > >
> > > > Michael Fothergill wrote:
> > > >> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??)
> > > >> unknown.
> > > >
> > > > Note that it will log errors with EE at the front.  This is
> > > > where the errors start:
> > > >
> > > >> [15.104] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported.
> > >
> > > Was this log file generated while booting in recovery mode?
> > 
> > 
> > ​You are correct.  I was booting in recovery mode as root.​
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Then it's
> > > expected, otherwise there is a problem.
> > >
> > > >> [15.105] (II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
> > > >> [15.105] compiled for 1.17.1, module version = 1.0.0
> > > >> [15.105] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 19.0
> > > >> [15.105] (II) VESA(0): initializing int10
> > > >> [15.105] (EE) VESA(0): Cannot read int vect
> > > >> [15.105] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
> > > >> [15.105] (II) UnloadSubModule: "int10"
> > > >> [15.105] (II) Unloading int10
> > > >> [15.105] (II) UnloadSubModule: "vbe"
> > > >> [15.105] (II) Unloading vbe
> > > >> [15.105] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable
> > > >> configuration.
> > > >
> > > > "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration."  I have
> > > > many times seen and dreaded that message.
> > > >
> > > > I can't decode the above into the root cause of the problem.
> > > > Hopefully someone else will be able to do so.  Does anyone else
> > > > on this list have any hints here?
> > >
> > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787144
> > >
> > > I'm afraid this bug makes the vesa driver currently unusable. :-(
> > >
> > > > I fear the problem is the newer Linux KMS and DRM interfaces
> > > > which obsoleted a lot of hardware.  I have been hit by that
> > > > problem myself. Whereas older kernels worked perfectly
> > > > supporting the hardware newer kernels have dropped support and
> > > > broken my systems.
> > >
> > > Please report this as bugs, the kernel is not supposed to obsolete
> > > hardware which people still have.
> > >
> > 
> > ​I am using a Kaveri box - it is a new architecture and this could
> > be a problem.​
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > > I suggest booting one of the previous kernels and seeing if that
> > > > helps.
> > >
> > > Ahem, the Xorg.0.log file shows that Micheal was booting an old
> > > and unsupported 3.14 kernel, so this can already be ruled out.
> > >
> > > > If not then try the newest kernel available, possibly a
> > > > backports kernel.  If not then I suggest trying to boot with the
> > > > kernel command line option "nomodeset" and see if it improves
> > > > things.
> > >
> > > Booting in recovery mode already implies "nomodeset", and the
> > > Xorg.0.log file shows a complaint from the radeon module that KMS
> > > is not supported.
> > >
> > > > Plus any better hints that others might supply.
> > >
> > > Seeing an Xorg.0.log file from a normal boot would be good, plus
> > > the complete dmesg output.
> > >
> > 
> > ​If I try to do a normal boot then the OS tries to fire up Xorg and
> > fails and I just get a blank screen with a cursor.
> 
> Edit the line in /etc/default/grub that looks like this:
> 
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"
> 
> to read
> 
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet text"
> 
> and then run update-grub (as root). The machine will now not start X
> when you reboot. Remove the "text" part later if you get X working,
> and want it to boot up into X.
> 
> > ctrl C etc does not seem to drop down a command line interface etc.
> 
> Try Ctrl + Alt + F1
   ^^
That should have been F2, sorry.

Petter

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Re: Still unable to get external monitor wotking on Debian 6 - was Re: Unable to install nVidia driver on Debian 6 LTS - was - Re: How to boot without GUI

[Bret Busby]

On 18/06/2015, Petter Adsen  wrote:



>
> As to your problem with bumblebee, I think Optimus support is something
> that is fairly recent, and might well have come after Squeeze. Maybe
> you will find it in backports?
>

A problem is that, and, I am not sure whether I indicated this in a
previous post with commands responses output, as the sources.list file
content showed, I had included the backports text line, and, commented
it out, in the sources.list file,

"
# deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian squeeze-backports main contrib non-free
"

as, with that line operational  in the sources.list file, apt
consistently returned a "Not Found" type error, for the backports
path.

The backports path is as cited on one of the web pages with
instructions for installing bumblebee.

I am not sure, but I think that backports for squeeze, may have been
eliminated, as part of the LTS process.

-- 
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992




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