growisofs fails
Hi guys, I'm suddenly getting failures when trying to write to DVD. The discs are Verbatim DVD+R - same as always. Trying to write a DVD .ISO to disc, K3B shows this in the debug output: growisofs --- Executing 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0' /dev/hdc: Current Write Speed is 8.2x1352KBps. 1572864/3383431168 ( 0.0%) @0.0x, remaining 215:00 RBU 100.0% UBU 2.1% 1572864/3383431168 ( 0.0%) @0.0x, remaining 322:31 RBU 100.0% UBU 100.0% 1572864/3383431168 ( 0.0%) @0.0x, remaining 430:01 RBU 100.0% UBU 100.0% 1572864/3383431168 ( 0.0%) @0.0x, remaining 573:22 RBU 100.0% UBU 100.0% 1572864/3383431168 ( 0.0%) @0.0x, remaining 680:52 RBU 100.0% UBU 100.0% 1572864/3383431168 ( 0.0%) @0.0x, remaining 788:22 RBU 100.0% UBU 100.0% 1572864/3383431168 ( 0.0%) @0.0x, remaining 931:43 RBU 100.0% UBU 100.0% 1572864/3383431168 ( 0.0%) @0.0x, remaining 1039:13 RBU 100.0% UBU 100.0% 1572864/3383431168 ( 0.0%) @0.0x, remaining 1146:44 RBU 100.0% UBU 100.0% :-[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with SK=3h/ASC=11h/ACQ=00h]: Input/output error :-( write failed: Input/output error /dev/hdc: flushing cache /dev/hdc: closing track :-[ CLOSE TRACK failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error /dev/hdc: closing disc :-[ CLOSE DISC failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error I get exactly the same output when I run growisofs -Z /dev/hdc=image.iso from the commandline. Weird thing is, it does actually write to the disc - the first couple of MB at least. If I put the disc in afterwards, it's got the correct label and table of contents. The rewritable discs I have (DVD+RW) work just fine, and the Verbatim discs work just fine when I use an external USB dvd writer. Is this just a media incompatibility or is my drive going bad? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Triple/Quad screen options
Hi guys, I'm Looking for your experiences using three or more monitors under Linux? We use two to four screens at work (depending on our exact requirements). Using two screens on a dual-head card works mostly OK, at least for my legitimate work needs (some things like fullscreen mplayer don't behave so nicely, but that's not essential), but as soon as you run three or more screens and have to use two graphics card, things get a little messy. Xinerama, for one, breaks hardware 3D, and some things behave weirdly I've looked online at cards like the Matrox G450 Quad, and wondered if anyone has experience running these under linux. How well does things like 3D and hardwar everlay (as in MPlayer fullscreen with xv without trying to fullscreen over all the screens) work? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail server for offline system
Owen Heisler wrote: Postfix, exim4, or any other decent mail server in Deiban that (preferrably) can be configured easily with will suffice. The server must support Maildir folders, honor the ~/.forward file (perhaps they all do?), and not attempt to deliver non-local messages when a specified interface is down. http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#dialup Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /lib/init/rw
Bob Proulx wrote: Hans du Plooy wrote: What does this do? It is used by the initscripts. Among other things see this bug and read the message from Henrique de Moraes Holschuh on Mon, 1 Jan 2007. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%23403863 Bob Thanks, there's some useful info. But they mostly just argue about where the .ramfs should be put. I'm really more interested in finding out why it needs to be a ramfs. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/lib/init/rw
Hi guys, What does this do? jduplooy:~# df -lh FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda2 52G 42G 7.7G 85% / tmpfs 503M 0 503M 0% /lib/init/rw--- ?? jduplooy:~# ls -lha /lib/init/rw/ total 4.0K drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 60 2007-06-05 19:03 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K 2007-02-07 18:36 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 2007-06-05 19:03 .ramfs Unmounting it seems to have no effect. I'm running Etch on several machines: desktop and server, even mix of AMD64, 486, 686 and K7 stock kernels. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tmpfs question
Hi guys, I have a virtual server from Bytemark, running what was installed as Sarge and upgraded along the way to Etch. For some reason there are two tmpfs mounts, both 72MB in size - about half my memory each: # df -lh FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ubdc 9.9G 1.8G 7.8G 19% / tmpfs 72M 0 72M 0% /lib/init/rw tmpfs 72M 0 72M 0% /dev/shm I tracked these down to /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh and /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh What is this used for? Bearing in mind that I'm still running the 2.4 kernel (UML - I can select a different one through the console but since this one is working I'm not about to fix it), is it safe to stop these two services and unmount the two tmpfs mounts? Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch sasl weirdness [solved]
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 08:22:40PM +0100, Hans du Plooy wrote: What I did notice is that /etc/defaults/saslauthd mentions /etc/saslauthd.conf, but there is no such file. I also don't see a client config file. # ldap -- use LDAP (configuration is in /etc/saslauthd.conf) So, unless you are having your saslauthd get its authentication information from an LDAP store, then you don't need the file. Thanks Roberto. The /etc/default/saslauthd doesn't actually say that /etc/saslauthd.conf is *only* for LDAP, but the manpage does: FILES /var/run/saslauthd/mux The default communications socket. /etc/saslauthd.conf The default configuration file for ldap support. Cheers Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch sasl weirdness
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Sorry for the delay in replying. On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:31:17PM +0100, Hans du Plooy wrote: Hi guys, I'm setting up an Etch server for postfix with smtp auth. I changed /etc/default/saslauthd so that the mux file gets made under /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd. I restarted saslauthd, and checked that it's working right. It is making the file in the right place, and ps shows me that it is reading the right settings: Personally, I think that running Postfix in a chroot is more trouble than it's worth. So do I. In fact, that turned out to be the root of my problem. The howto I was reading assumed that postfix is running in chroot (as it is by default on Debian), but it wasn't. I remember now when I setup the box initially - about three years ago - I disabled it for some reason, can't even remember what. connect(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=/var/run/saslauthd/mux}, 110) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) Did you try passing the -f switch to testsaslauthd to tell it where the socket is located? I didn't. Just tried it and that solved it. Also tried all of the above on a fresh Etch install, and the postfix auth works (because it is chrooted). What I did notice is that /etc/defaults/saslauthd mentions /etc/saslauthd.conf, but there is no such file. I also don't see a client config file. Thanks Roberto - you pointed me in the right direction. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Etch sasl weirdness
Hi guys, I'm setting up an Etch server for postfix with smtp auth. I changed /etc/default/saslauthd so that the mux file gets made under /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd. I restarted saslauthd, and checked that it's working right. It is making the file in the right place, and ps shows me that it is reading the right settings: # ps xf 3521 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 3526 ?S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 3527 ?S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 3528 ?S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 3529 ?S 0:00 \_ /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 But I'm getting this: # testsaslauthd -u user -p password connect() : No such file or directory and when strace it, I see: connect(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=/var/run/saslauthd/mux}, 110) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) So saslauthd so sasl seems to be ignoring the -m stuff. If I make a symling /var/run/saslauthd pointing to /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd it works fine. Is this a bug or am I missing something I should have done? Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escape characters in sed
Hi guys, I'm trying to do a search/replace on some text. Looks like this: 1.2.3.4(1.2.3.4) To my mind, this should replace the '(' with a space sed 's/\\)/ / But it does nothing. Why? How do I do this? Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: escape characters in sed
Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans du Plooy escribió: Hi guys, I'm trying to do a search/replace on some text. Looks like this: 1.2.3.4(1.2.3.4) To my mind, this should replace the '(' with a space sed 's/\\)/ / But it does nothing. Why? How do I do this? Well, I think you're replacing `)' and not `(' Typo, sorry. Should be: sed 's/\\(/ /' Still doesn't work though :-) I guess the question should be, how to excape a ( character? Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: escape characters in sed
Mathias Brodala wrote: Hi Hans. Hans du Plooy, 13.05.2007 16:51: I'm trying to do a search/replace on some text. Looks like this: 1.2.3.4(1.2.3.4) To my mind, this should replace the '(' with a space sed 's/\\)/ / No, just type the parenthesis, no escaping necessary. Thanks Mathias - guess I was trying to be too smart :-) Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: escape characters in sed
william pursell wrote: Your version is missing the final ', so I'm guessing you meant: sed 's/\\)/ /' Yes, sorry, several mistakes on my part... which will replace occurences of \) with a single space Not what I had intended, I just wanted to replace ) with a space. Actually I wanted to replace the ( with a space and get rid of the trailing ), : eg: $ echo '2nd backslash and first paren replaced: \\))' | sed 's/\\)/ /' 2nd backslash and first paren replaced: \ ) Note that this is exactly the same as: $ echo '2nd backslash and first paren replaced: \\))' | sed s/\)/\ / 2nd backslash and first paren replaced: \ ) Thanks, now I kinda understand why. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bookmarks across browsers
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 14:41 -0400, KS wrote: I was wondering how to keep my set of bookmarks available across all the www-browsers I have on my system. Not sure which browsers this will work for, but it's quite nice to keep FF on my notebook and work PC in sync: http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/ Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fullscreen on dual monitors
On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 11:25 -0400, P Kapat wrote: If you are using KDE, then right-click on desktop Configure Desktop (or thru kcontrol) Display Multiple Monitors Enable all the checkboxes... Thank's, I'll look at it on Monday when I'm back at work. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fullscreen on dual monitors
On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 16:37 +0800, Bob wrote: When you do this does one of your screens shimmer? I do but only very seldom on the secondary screen, mostly when I have something with a bright background (say a blank document in OpenOffice). But since my secondary screen is pretty much exclusively used for console work (white on black) it doesn't really bother me. So is there a way to restrict one application to only one physical screen? Sorry, don't know, with video overlay you can control which screen it works on with Option OverlayOnCRTC2 true in your xorg.conf despite this quote from the RADEON driver man page the option OverlayOnCRTC2 has been replaced by the Xv attribute XV_SWITCHCRT; the overlay can be switched to CRT1 or CRT2 on the fly in clone mode I'm not using clone mode - my desktop is extended over both screens. My overlay seems to go over both screens. I'll try it anyway. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fullscreen on dual monitors
Hi guys, I am using two 19 LCD screens on a Radeon 7000 card, using the radeon driver (not fglrx, it does not support this card). I have it set up using MergedFB which gives me one big desktop that is 3D accelerated too. I have WindowsXP running in VMware for some testing, and I'd like to get it full screen on one screen. But when I make it full screens, it takes over both screens, and just draws it desktop down the middel of the big desktop (half half over each LCD screen). OK, I'll use rdesktop to get into it. Tried that: rdesktop -f make one enormous desktop accross both screens - just like my linux desktop. Now this is where I would normally stop thinking it can't be done without changing my xorg setup, but if I play a movie with mplayer in full screen, it goes fullscreen on only one screen. I can specify -vo x11 or -vo xv they all do the same. So is there a way to restrict one application to only one physical screen? Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Etch - CLARIFIED
On Tue, April 17, 2007 16:57, Steven Maddox (Architect) wrote: What I am after is recommendations on how to go about it, someone did post a tutorial which was nice - however it is from the pespective of installing Debian a fresh, which I can't use! Hi Steven. You didn't hint at your level of proficiency, so I included the link to the tutorial for completeness' sake. You don't have to use it. If you know how to setup Bind, Apache, Mysql and PHP, you can do the ISPconfig setup - it does basic checks for where stuff are and adds references to include files. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Etch LAMP
On Mon, April 16, 2007 17:28, Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: Hi folks, I am using Debian 4.0 as my new server - yey! I have installed it using the XFCE cd as I love XFCE and I am/will be using freenx to control it as well as SSH (whenever I get freenx working - grr) SO! What I need is to install all LAMP related packages to get this up to spec, also any recommendations on open source control panels that work well with debian Any ideas? http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_etch with ISPconfig works very well for me - I've been running it on Etch for about 6 months now (and two years on Sarge before that). http://www.ispconfig.org/ Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Etch LAMP - Continued :D
On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 19:34 +0100, Steven Maddox (Architect) wrote: Hans wrote... --- http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_debian_etch --- This looks nice really, but I need a version for after the thing is installed lol, I don't want to re-install it! Please explain what you mean by this. The above howto only takes you through installing, with apt-get, all the essentials for a working LAMP system. - As for ISPConfig, it looks ok I guess, but I don't mind hearing other peoples experiences of control panels, not really heard of ISPConfig As far as OSS ones go that's about as nice as it gets IMHO. I say this not only because I like the interface, but it's backend is also mostly well thought through. You have to install it from source, and getting it right takes a bit of practise - the install script doesn't have a back option to correct mistakes. But once you've done it it's up and running, and to upgrade it you follow the exact same procedure. As far as commercial ones go, Plesk is probably the nicest from a user perspective, but it's mail backend is really crap. Firstly, it uses qmail. Secondly, by default it allows spammers to abuse it to send spam (backscatter). No offence meant to qmail fans :-) Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote desktop client - OSX [solved]
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 16:34 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Hmmm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Remote_Desktop I followed that and got a link to a howto, but it didn't work. It has a config file with options that are not in either the vncviewer or tightvncviewer manpages, and I don't see any way to make the viewer read the file. Either ways, I found this: http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2007-January/056874.html Seems like it won't work anyway. I ended up using this: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/networking_security/osxvnc.html Which works but pretty much proves why RDP is better. Thanks for your help! Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dlink 500TX
On Thu, April 12, 2007 12:17, Pete Clarke wrote: Hi there, Does anyone know if the DLink 500TX card (gigabit fiber) is supported in Etch's 2.6.18 kernel..? I have recently upgraded from Sarge to Etch, previous I was running kernel 2.4.27 and had the jt1lin driver compiled and working, it won't, however, compile under 2.6. I cannot help you with info on the card, but I can tell you that it's possible to run a 2.4 kernel on Etch if all else fails. I have a virtual server (UML) that was installed with Sarge. The provider uses a 2.4 kernel. I have since upgraded to Etch, but still run the same kernel (OS upgrade without a reboot - how's that!) - it just works... Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remote desktop client - OSX
Hi guys, I'm trying to connect to an OS X desktop that has remote desktop enabled. As far as I understand this is a VNC type connection, but I'm not having any luck connecting. Is there something specific I have to do? Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote desktop client - OSX
On Thu, April 12, 2007 16:14, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 03:03:41PM +0100, Hans du Plooy wrote: Hi guys, I'm trying to connect to an OS X desktop that has remote desktop enabled. As far as I understand this is a VNC type connection, but I'm not having any luck connecting. Is there something specific I have to do? Use the rdesktop (or grdesktop) package. Alternatively, you can run a VNC server on your Mac. So Apple's remote desktop is RDP? I thought it was RFB... I'll try it when I get home Thanks! Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote desktop client - OSX
On Thu, April 12, 2007 17:33, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Hmmm. Now you have me thinking. I have only used it once on my Mac. I am relatively certain that they licensed RDP. I seem to recall that they advertise you can connect to a Mac from Windows using remote desktop, which would make it a near certainty that it is RDP. Will be excellent if it is RDP - I much prefer it to the VNC variants. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
eth0_rename
When I load my wireless driver, be it ndiswrapper or bcm43xxx, the interface comes up as eth0_rename or wlan0_rename, and I see this in dmesg: wlan0: ethernet device 00:14:a5:2a:04:28 using NDIS driver: bcmwl5, version: 0x40a2801, NDIS version: 0x501, vendor: '', 14E4:4318.5.conf wlan0: encryption modes supported: WEP; TKIP with WPA, WPA2, WPA2PSK; AES/CCMP with WPA, WPA2, WPA2PSK ndiswrapper: changing interface name from 'wlan0' to 'wlan0_rename' usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper Anybody know why? It's not too much of a problem, the interface still works, it just looks out of place. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote desktop client - OSX
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 18:53 +0100, Hans du Plooy wrote: On Thu, April 12, 2007 17:33, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Hmmm. Now you have me thinking. I have only used it once on my Mac. I am relatively certain that they licensed RDP. I seem to recall that they advertise you can connect to a Mac from Windows using remote desktop, which would make it a near certainty that it is RDP. Will be excellent if it is RDP - I much prefer it to the VNC variants. Alas, it's not RDP. port 3389 is not open (unless it's running on something else?). vncviewer connects, but disconnects again. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: eth0_rename
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 22:07 +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: Hans du Plooy, 12.04.2007 22:00: When I load my wireless driver, be it ndiswrapper or bcm43xxx, the interface comes up as eth0_rename or wlan0_rename, and I see this in dmesg: ndiswrapper: changing interface name from 'wlan0' to 'wlan0_rename' usbcore: registered new interface driver ndiswrapper Anybody know why? It's not too much of a problem, the interface still works, it just looks out of place. Do you have ifrename installed? If yes, just get rid of it and run /lib/udev/write_net_rules instead; this will generate udev-based persistent naming rules for your network devices; you can modify them by editing the file /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules. Hi Thanks. I have looked at /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules before - the devicenames in there were correct but for some reason they were getting renamed. It seemed not to be reading that file but nothing turned up in the logs. And I don't have ifrename installed. I deleted the z25_persistent-net.rules before and ran /lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces - it generated a new file with the device names as they currently were (with _rename). Edited the file, restarted udev and now it's right. Not sure why it didn't work right in the first place. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: eth0_rename [solved]
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 22:53 +0200, Franck Joncourt wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 09:31:00PM +0100, Hans du Plooy wrote: I deleted the z25_persistent-net.rules before and ran /lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces - it generated a new file with the device names as they currently were (with _rename). Edited the file, restarted udev and now it's right. Not sure why it didn't work right in the first place. Is it still working after : /etc/init.d/networking restart ? Still working after several reboots :-) Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux/config.h missing - can't build modules
On Wed, April 11, 2007 10:15, Stephan Seitz wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 08:42:09PM +0100, Hans du Plooy wrote: I'm having trouble building modules, and I'm not too clued up on how the kernel build system works. I get this error: If this will be the only error, then you are quite happy. linux/config.h is now named linux/autoconf.h. So you can edit the module source and change the include lines or you can create a symlink from autoconf.h to config.h. Great! Thanks! It's not the only error, but the rest of the errors appears to be the result (missing references, undefined this or that). I'll try this tonight - left my notebook at home. I guess I can just make a symlink? Thank! Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
linux/config.h missing - can't build modules
Hi guys, I'm running the latest 2.6.21-rc kernels (to have my ACPI work - you know, switch on the fans when the CPU get too hot). I'm having trouble building modules, and I'm not too clued up on how the kernel build system works. I get this error: theluggage:/usr/src/modules/spca5xx# make Building SPCA5XX driver for 2.5/2.6 kernel. Remember: you must have read/write access to your kernel source tree. make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/spca5xx CC=cc modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.21-rc6' CC [M] /usr/src/modules/spca5xx/drivers/usb/spca5xx.o /usr/src/modules/spca5xx/drivers/usb/spca5xx.c:39:26: error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory Now I checked, in the kernel source of 2.6.18 as shipped with Etch/Sid, config.h is in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.18/include/linux/config.h but in 2.6.21 there is no config.h in include/linux/ How do I get around this? Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linux/config.h missing - can't build modules
On Tue, 2007-04-10 at 15:56 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: Now I checked, in the kernel source of 2.6.18 as shipped with Etch/Sid, config.h is in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.18/include/linux/config.h but in 2.6.21 there is no config.h in include/linux/ How do I get around this? It is called being ahead of the game in general. When you are to far ahead of the game in Debian, you sometimes suffer badly. Many modules (including ones like the nvidia stuff, but for different reasons) don't compile well with m-a (or at all) with the current lay of the land in 2.6.2X kernels right now. VMware had this same config.h problem, until I used v5.5.3. The only fix right now, is a patch, which I don't think exists yet. Greg, thanks. I should have mentioned that *all* modules I try to compile fail this way. If it was one or two I would have put it down to incompatibility with the new kernel, but in earlier rc versions of 2.6.21 (I think rc2) everything compiled quite fine. Thanks anyways - guess I'll have to be patient. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless G WPA2 PCI Card Suggestion Please
On Sun, 2007-04-08 at 10:06 -0400, Andrew J. Barr wrote: I am suitably impressed with the bcm43xx driver--I've been using it with the Airport Extreme card in my PowerBook G4. I've used it too, with the AirForce One 4318 in my Acer laptop, but I can't get it to do WEP, and it seems to cause some system instablity. In the archives of this list (and those of debian-laptop) you'll find that others (e.g Freddy Freeloader) have had even more difficulty with it, so at the very least YMMV with bcm43xx. FWIW, I am using it just fine with WPA-Enteprise. It seems to like disconnecting every 90 minutes or so, but this kernel is a touch out of date (2.6.18-4-powerpc). It's not a huge deal however, because NetworkManager usually reconnects it right away. Be careful, there are several revisions/sub-models of this chip, and they don't all work equally well with the bcm43xx driver. The one in my notebook, for example works, but performs poorly, struggles to connect to any access point, and has very poor range. Something with an Atheros chip is probably a safer bet. They require you to download and install the driver, but they're far more certain to work well. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some cleanup questions
Hi guys, I'm just cleaning out old packages on my Sarge_upgraded_to_Etch server. Noticed these two: ii apache-common 1.3.34-4 support files for all Apache webservers ii apache2.2-common 2.2.3-3.3 Next generation, scalable, extendable web se Do I need both? Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some cleanup questions [solved]
On Thu, April 5, 2007 12:25, Joe Hart wrote: Hans du Plooy wrote: ii apache-common 1.3.34-4 support files for all Apache webservers ii apache2.2-common 2.2.3-3.3 Next generation, scalable, extendable web se Do I need both? Do you use apache? or apache2? One is version 1.3 and the other 2.2. The reason they have different names is because some apps work only under 1.3, so when apache 2 came out, it came as a different package so it wouldn't clobber everything. I'm running Apache2 - always have been. I was going to remove the 1.3 stuff, but then the description caught my eye: support files for *all* Apache webservers - wasn't sure how broadly I should interpret all Apache webservers. To the bin it goes then! Thanks! Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fetchmail syslog messages
Apr 3 12:40:02 big fetchmail[4337]: Server CommonName mismatch: localhost != mail.mesanetworks.net Apr 3 12:40:02 big fetchmail[4337]: Server certificate verification error: self signed certificate I get this too on my notebook since switching it to Debian. I'm using the same config file, to connect to the same servers, none of which use ssl, so I don't know why it's even trying to deal with certificates. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M free driver
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 11:00 +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: May I call your attention to the ATI/AMD Radeon XPRESS 200M Linux Driver Petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/x200MLin/petition.html I've added mine. On my one and a half year old HP I still lack hardware 3D with the radeon driver, and the fglrx driver still performs poor and breaks my backlight control and suspend/resume. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mach64 - Etch - Xorg DRI
On Sun, 2007-04-01 at 13:01 -0400, cga2000 wrote: Has anybody gotten direct rendering to work with the legacy mach64 Rage Pro Mobility card .. with the etch version of Xorg? The ATI web site does not provide drivers for this antique so I'll have to use the one that's provided with Xorg. $ lspci [..] ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) Not under X.org (or Xfree) using their native drivers. I haven't used this in a long time, but as far as I know you need to install the drivers from the Gatos project. Gatos is really aimed at getting the media addons (like the AIW stuff) to work, but it has a working driver for the 3D bits. I think the last time I used this Potato was in testing... Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bcm43xx vs NetworkManager (was Re: ndiswrapper problem)
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 00:03 +, Hans du Plooy wrote: Bizarrely, the interface seems to lose power or something every 1-2 minutes. Not my connection to the AP - this is a lower level, it happens even if I'm running airodump-ng. All of a sudden I just see nothing. Only way to fix it is to rmmod and then modprobe bcm43xx Ok, after playing around a lot with the wireless on my notebook (Broacom 4318) I realised the above problem is not the bcm43xx driver, but NetworkManager. I'm not sure what it does, I can only imagine it scans for networks at regular intervals when it's not connected and somehow resets the card/driver. If I associate the card with an accesspoint using iwconfig and then do dhclient eth0, it picks up an address almost immediately, and works stably. But getting it to connect through NetworkManager is a pain. I have to keep retrying, and eventually (sometimes afer 20 or more tries) it will finally connect and work properly. Is anybody experiencing the same problem? Do note I'm rathe far from the AP, NetworkManager shows 4 bars. If I put up an AP in the same room it connects much quicker. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hostname (none) after dist-upgrade
Hi guys, I did a dist-upgrade from sarge to etch on a server and all went well, except for one thing. At console, I now see this: root@(none):~#hostname (none) root@(none):~# hostname -f hostname: Unknown host BUT: root@(none):~# cat /etc/hostname rimwards.obscured.tld root@(none):~# cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 80.xxx.xxx.xxx rimwards.obscured.tld rimwards Has anyone seen this or know how to fix it? I'm chasing my tail right now. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hostname (none) after dist-upgrade
Hi guys, I did a dist-upgrade from sarge to etch on a server and all went well, except for one thing. At console, I now see this: root@(none):~#hostname (none) root@(none):~# hostname -f hostname: Unknown host BUT: root@(none):~# cat /etc/hostname rimwards.obscured.tld root@(none):~# cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 80.xxx.xxx.xxx rimwards.obscured.tld rimwards If I set the hostname manually with hostname hostname Has anyone seen this or know how to fix it? I'm chasing my tail right now. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hostname (none) after dist-upgrade [solved]
On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 13:49 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: Thy this. echo rimwards /etc/hostname rimwards.obscured.tld is the FQDN Spot on! Thanks! Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vanilla kernel and third party driver difficulties
Hi guys, I'm running etch, and for the sake of my notebook's ACPI, I'm running the the latest 2.6.21-rc4 kernel. There are some third party drivers that I need, and since 2.6.21-rc3 module-assistant fails to compile any of them, and I get the same error accross the board: /usr/src/modules/rt2x00/rt2x00_compat.h:12:26: error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory which linux/config.h is it complaining about? It doesn't give the whole path. Is anyone else running these -rc kernels with extra modules? Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cheap LCD display
On Fri, March 16, 2007 16:37, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello List, I am looking for a cheap (DVI ?) LCD display for my Etch boxes (macbook or macmini): any advice is more than wellcome ! I got this for my Mac Mini: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-AL1916WAS-Widescreen-LCD-Monitor/dp/B000H5UKBM/ref=sr_1_1/203-3704513-7439928?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1174064936sr=8-1 I'm very happy with it! 1440x900, nice and bright, crisp clear display. It doesn't do DVI though. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATI fglrx driver and notebook brightness ajustment
Hi guys, On my notebook, HP nx6125 (ATI X300 graphics), if I use the included radeon (oss) driver, I can ajust the screen brightness with the fn keys on the keyboard, and if I unplug AC power, the screen dimms automatically. But if I used the fglrx driver, this doesn't work correctly. It does work, but the changes aren't seen on the screen. For example, I have my KDE/Gnome desktop open in front of me, screen is in full brightness. I unplug the AC or use the fn keys to turn down the brightness. Nothing happens, the screen stays bright. If I now press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to console, the console is dimmed, and if I now Alt+F7 back to X, X is dimmed as well. So something prevents these brightness functions to update the screen in real time. Obviously the problem is with the fglrx driver, or some part of it. I know it works correctly on some other notebooks with the same driver. Has anybody seen this? Is it simply a setting in xorg.conf, an ACPI issue, or am I out of luck? Google turns op mostly issues with backlight not switching off when the lid is closed, which seems to be ACPI issues with particular notebooks, but nothing that looks directly like what I'm seeing. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ndiswrapper problem
On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 11:24 -0500, Celejar wrote: Are you aware that the bcm43xx driver (included in recent kernels) supports Broadcom wireless chips natively? I'm using it with the built in Broadcom wireless chip on my laptop (Broadcom BCM4318 AirForce One 54g rev 02) and it works quite well. There are several revisions of that chip (hence the xx) and the driver doesn't work equally well on all. There are properly further sub-revisions too that is not shown by lspci - I have the same one as you and for me (up-to-date Etch with stock kernel as well as vanilla 2.6.21-rc2) it is unstable, fails to get an address from DHCP most of the time, has poor range and poor performance. Bizarrely, the interface seems to lose power or something every 1-2 minutes. Not my connection to the AP - this is a lower level, it happens even if I'm running airodump-ng. All of a sudden I just see nothing. Only way to fix it is to rmmod and then modprobe bcm43xx Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting Debian Testing to Stable
On Wed, March 7, 2007 16:55, Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: I installed Debian Testing on a computer, and now want to convert it to Stable. Is it correct if I (1) Replace testing with etch in APT sources, (2) Wait for Etch to become Stable, and then (3) Dist-upgrade? And what is currently the official expected date for Etch to become Stable? I don't think you need to dist-upgrade. Just make sure you have etch in sources.list and stick around. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD ripping/copying/demacroing/deregionalizing
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 21:55 +0100, Mathias Brodala wrote: You mean DVDShrink and you can run it through WINE. Not sure if it works like on Windows systems, though. I've ran it through crossover office - not through vanilla wine though. It does work, but there are limitations. For one thing, it didn't see the DVD-ROM, and the file browser also didn't work (just showed up empty) but it could open an ISO. So I used vobcopy -m to grab (and decrypt) the files, k3b to dump it in an ISO, and then use DVDShrink to squeeze it onto a 4.4gb DVD. There is a native linux tool called k3copy. It works quite well, quite fast too. DVDShrink seems to give slightly better quality copies, although it was hard to tell on my old CRT screen Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP Mail server question
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 22:43 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: There is one(?) caveat though. Don't create your Maildir directory by hand. USE the maildirmake program and then create your mailboxes using the -f switch of maildirmake. Believe me, it can save you lots of grief. Otherwise courier-imap-ssl works out of the box. Why? I've only ever had permission issues when creating them by hand, but that was due to my own sloppyness. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gigabit nic
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 18:24 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:36:44PM +, Hans du Plooy wrote: On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:27 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Can't really go wrong with an Intel or 3Com (are they still making new stuff?). Careful. Intel's onboard controllers of late are often rebranded Marvel Yukons - and they're useless. He was talking about purchasing a NIC, so I figured onboard wasn't part of the equation. Well, I wouldn't be surprised if there are already Intel branded gigabit PCI NICs that have the Marvel Yukon chipset on. Like the Intel 6-port SATA Raid cards that are really LSI 150-6 cards - they didn't even badge-engineer the firmware UI... My point is the Intel brand no longer means you get top-notch performance. You have to make sure it actually has an Intel chipset. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP Mail server question
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 07:56 -0700, Kelly wrote: Just a request for opinions here guys. I have read several articles about Courier and Dovecot. What is your opinions about which to go with. There's really very little difference. Dovecot is supposedly a little faster, but if you reached the point where that becomes an issue you need to look at cyrus anyway. Haven't done Dovecot on Debian (do it all the time on RHEL tho). For Courier, just apt-get install courier-imap (I think that's the package name). There's nothing to configure unless you want to use virtual users/domains and/or ldap/mysq. Plenty of good documentation about that on the web. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch not booting on Adaptec 2420sa
On Wed, February 28, 2007 00:41, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Here [0]: 4. I have an Adaptec 1210SA SATA RAID card. Why doesn't Linux support my hardware RAID? The Adaptec 2x20 series are hardware raid cards, use the aacraid module, and to the linux kernel look no different to Adaptec SCSI Raid cards that use the same driver. Very good cards, by the way.. OP probably needs a /boot partition for a filesystem that big. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch not booting on Adaptec 2420sa
On Wed, February 28, 2007 14:22, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 12:15:26PM -, Hans du Plooy wrote: The Adaptec 2x20 series are hardware raid cards, use the aacraid module, and to the linux kernel look no different to Adaptec SCSI Raid cards that use the same driver. Very good cards, by the way.. Yeah, I saw that after I posted. Since the pattern was the same, with the same suffix even, I thought it was just a newer model of the same thing. Roberto, sorry, I only saw the further replies after writing mine. Yes, it's a completely different chip. I think I used it the first time about two years ago. I was given a backup server (as in space to put backups on via samba) to set up - old P4 with a bunch of SATA discs and an LSI card. Performance sucked badly, I thought it was the megaraid driver. Ended up loading Win2k3 server with the newest drivers, and I still got only about 6mb/s sustained. Finally chucked out the LSI and got one of these Adaptec cards - immediately the performance jumped to about 50-60mb/s sustained - which I think is about as fast as that P4 can drive a gigabit NIC. I've used the Adaptec cards ever since and they've served me well Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gigabit nic
On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:27 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Can't really go wrong with an Intel or 3Com (are they still making new stuff?). Careful. Intel's onboard controllers of late are often rebranded Marvel Yukons - and they're useless. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Queue management for qmail
Hi guys, Does anyone know a program similar to this for qmail? http://pfqueue.sourceforge.net/ Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When you're a rank noob (was Re: Old Computer Parts)
Then that's what you say at the beginning of your email. :) These two quotes are guaranteed to garner sympathy: I'm a noob and I don't know enough to know where to begin to look. Internet access is flaky, slow and expensive. Differs from list to list, I guess. In the days when I was still learning Red Hat, just being a noob meant you were flamed, regardless. The unwritten rule regarding noobs seemed to be: Flame Flame Flame Read his question Flame If he's still on the list, tell him to RTFM (even if he already has) Flame some more Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HP nx6125
Hi guys, I've had this notebook for more than a year now, and I'm still battling with it's ACPI. The biggest problem is that the fan control is irregular. Trip points are reached or exceeded, and acpi -t shows the correct temperature and that the fan is on, but the fan isn't. There is an entry in bugzilla: http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5534 Now, from what I understand, a large part of the problem is the DSDT. If I can get a fixed one loaded into my kernel, it should solve the worst of my problems. Comment #197 has a fixed DSDT for the current bios, but I'm having no luck getting this compiled. iasl -dc dsdt.dsl gives me no errors, but the resulting dsdt.aml is 0 bytes... Newer kernels compiled from source is also not giving me too much joy. Is anyone running Debian on this notebook? I'm running Etch i386 Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody on 486 problem
On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 14:54 +0100, Joe Hart wrote: Still, I have a old Celeron 600mhz with 16MB acting as a server running Sarge. It works fine. The computer was heading to the dump and I thought I could rescue it and put it to some use. It does not have a GUI, and doesn't need one. I cringe when I see good working hardware being thrown away. My old company has a whole army of Pentium 100 machines doing Firewall duty at their clients. Heck, I've used a 486 for just that - ok, it was 56k dialup with only two PCs in the network, but still... When I moved house I bit my lip and put old my old 486/P-I/P-II machines on the pavement. I don't know if whoever took them sold them for scrap metal or gave them to the neigbour's kid, but it sure was sad letting them go. But in my current job I've become much more aware of power issues, and where I would usually use a couple of machines to test stuff that needed a couple of machines, I'm now more inclined to get one strong box and use virtual machines. One of my friends bought a secondhand 486 because he needs something with a serial port to connect to some control system. I saw on the net a little linux computer that consists pretty much of a network card and a serial port. www.picolinux.com I think. I thought that would probably do the job too and almost certainly cost much less to run in the long run. And it's quiet :-) Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Old Computer Parts
On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 22:02 +0100, Joe Hart wrote: I think a lot of the questions that are asked in this mailing list could be self answered, but it seems that there are a lot of people who never bother looking for an answer when then think a guru will take time from their precious day to reply. Well, some people are lazy. But if I think back to when I started out with linux, I had no idea what I was doing, many man pages were fairly cryptic, available documentation assumed you know what you're doing. To make matters worse, I had no internet access, and only limited e-mail access - which means mailing lists was my primary source of information. In first world countries, people take thier superfast internet connections for granted and don't realise that in much of the rest of the world having an internet connection at home can be a luxury even for IT professionals. No matter how easy or difficult the question you ask, there will always be some smartass who tell to you go RTFM (which is often a longer sentence to type than the answer to your question). Don't let it bother you. Eric S. Raymond's advice is good advice, but I know people can be intimidated and/or confused by some documentation out there. Heck, after more than 10 years of using linux some projects' documentation still overwhelm me. If you know absolutely nothing about a certain program or the technologies involved, it can be difficult to figure out where to start. These days I have hardly any time at all to read these lists (when I do there are always a couple of thousand mails from debian-user) let alone reply, but when I do get time, I really try to reply to every question I can answer, no matter how basic. If some guru hadn't taken some of his precious time to answer my basic questions 10 years ago, I would probably not be in IT anymore. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody on 486 problem
On Sun, 2007-02-18 at 23:19 +, Hans du Plooy wrote: I saw on the net a little linux computer that consists pretty much of a network card and a serial port. www.picolinux.com I think. I thought Wrong url, here's the correct one: http://www.picotux.com/ Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: REALLY OT: News Flash
On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 14:55 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: Celejar wrote: In Hilbert's hotel, when all the rooms are full and a new guest arrives, the management just moves everyone down one room and places the newcomer into the first room, which is now vacant. When a countably infinite number of new guests arrive, he accomodates them by moving each current guest into the room with the number 2x his current, so guest in room 1 goes to room 2, guest in room 2 goes to room 4, etc. This frees up rooms 1, 3, 5, 7, etc., into which he places the new guests, by placing guest n into room with number 2n-1, so guest 1 goes into room 1, guest 2 goes into room 3, etc. Ask me about the machine and the ping pong balls some time. Tell us? Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Etch is REALLY fast! :-)
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 23:34 -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote: On 1/30/07, Dave Witbrodt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Etch now since Sunday night, and everything is working really smooth. Everything seems a lot faster, too. No doubt some of that is due to the improved video card, but boot time is faster and everything I do when working without X also seems faster. I'll second this. I'm running it on my desktop at work (2ghz AMD64, 1GB ram, ordinary IDE disc and an old Radeon 700 with two 19 LCDs - it's simply the most responsive desktop I've ever had. I've a question on behalf of the Debian Ombudsman Team: - Is there any current issue you would like to see solved into our post-etch release (Lenny) ? Notebook package selection and ACPI. I just installed Etch on my extra partition this morning (14 Feb 2007 snapshot), the installer correctly chose to install the mobile/laptop/whatever selection. I would have expected it to see that it's an AMD CPU, install powernowd automatically, and load the appropriate modules (which is included in the Debian kernel) to enable CPU frequency scaling. Installing a BitTorrent server by default is a bit silly. ACPI is still a thorn in my side too. I've seen way too many notebooks on which fans simply don't switch on and off reliably, and suspend works but resume doesn't - surely there must be a generic way to handle these things? Aside from those issues I'm over the moon with Etch (Sarge actually too, it's just getting a bit outdated). My desktop is really fast, it's as stable as I expect a server to be. I'm particularly impressed that on my notebook, and HP nx6125 (POS - don't buy) I can now finally dimm my LCD when I unplug the AC power without leaving X. It has never worked before. Keep up the good work. Hopefully I'll be a competent enough coder some day to help. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Second NIC won't play
Hi guys, I have to identical Intel 100mbit network cards in my workstation. Just one was plugged in and picked up DHCP when I installed, and configured itself accordingly. I'm not trying to make the second one talk via a crossover cable to my notebook. But I cannot get the interface up. # ifconfig eth1 up eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device When I restart, I get a similar message. My /etc/network/interfaces: auto lo eth0 iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 # lspci -v: 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 0c) Subsystem: Intel Corporation EtherExpress PRO/100 S Desktop Adapter Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 169 Memory at fb80 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] I/O ports at a000 [size=64] Memory at fb70 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K] Expansion ROM at fb60 [disabled] [size=64K] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 0c) Subsystem: Intel Corporation EtherExpress PRO/100 S Desktop Adapter Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 177 Memory at fbb0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=4K] I/O ports at a400 [disabled] [size=64] Memory at fba0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=128K] Expansion ROM at fb90 [disabled] [size=64K] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 Any ideas what might be causing this weird behaviour? Normally with two identical cards the module (e100 in this case) picks them both up automatically. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Second NIC won't play
On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 17:23 +, Hans du Plooy wrote: I have to identical Intel 100mbit network cards in my workstation. Just one was plugged in and picked up DHCP when I installed, and configured itself accordingly. I'm not trying to make the second one talk via a crossover cable to my notebook. But I cannot get the interface up. # ifconfig eth1 up eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Ok, this is weird. Out of sheer frustration and boredom I did modprobe eepro100 - and it worked! Weird because the cards are identical... Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual head setup [solved]
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 10:03 +1000, Greg Vickers wrote: It would be unstable because the radeon module has little more than basic support for the X600. Was this dual head in an extended desktop mode (as opposed to mirror)? Do you by any chance still have this config file around? Huh, great - I included two xorg.conf files in my previous email, one that crashed with the radeon module and the second one that works with the fglrx module. Greg, sorry. I should really stop leaving this for the wee hours of the morning Well, I managed to get it working, and much better than I had hoped for. I had hoped to get xinerama going, which would have meant no 3D. But I found a way that doesn't need xinerama, and allows me to have a big desktop split over the two screens with full 3D accelleration: MergedFB. xorg.conf included. Hans Section Files FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1 FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi # path to defoma fonts FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType EndSection Section Module Loadbitmap Loadddc Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadvbe EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout gb EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Protocol ImPS/2 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card1 Driver radeon BusID PCI:1:0:0 Option MergedFB true Option CRT2Position LeftOf Option MonitorLayout LCD, CRT Option CRT2Hsync 31-83 Option CRT2VRefresh 50-75 Option OverlayOnCRTC2 true Option MetaModes 1280x1024-1280x1024 Option MergedXineramaCRT2IsScreen0 true EndSection Section Monitor Identifier DELL1 Option DPMS HorizSync 31-83 VertRefresh 56-76 DisplaySize 412 401 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Device Card1 Monitor DELL1 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 Virtual 2560 1024 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Screen1 InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Radeon 7000 Dualhead 3D working - HOWTO
OK, after som head_against_wall incidentes, I have it working on Debian Etch. This should work for the Radeon 7500 too, because they use the same driver. First, make sure you have these packages installed: xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-video-ati xlibmesa-gl xlibmesa-dri xfonts-base libxinerama1 I'm not sure if they're all strictly neccessary, but it won't hurt to have them. Anything else you need will probably be installed automatically along the way. Then, adapt your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to look something like this: Section Files FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1 FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi # path to defoma fonts FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType EndSection Section Module Loadbitmap Loadddc Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadvbe EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout gb EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Protocol ImPS/2 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card1 Driver radeon BusID PCI:1:0:0 Option MergedFB true Option CRT2Position LeftOf Option MonitorLayout LCD, CRT Option CRT2Hsync 31-83 Option CRT2VRefresh 50-75 Option OverlayOnCRTC2 true Option MetaModes 1280x1024-1280x1024 Option MergedXineramaCRT2IsScreen0 true EndSection Section Monitor Identifier DELL1 Option DPMS HorizSync 31-83 VertRefresh 56-76 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Device Card1 Monitor DELL1 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 Virtual 2560 1024 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Screen1 InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse EndSection Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual head setup
Hi Greg, thanks for your reply To get my video card working and stable, I had to use the fglrx module provided by ATI. (http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html Mine is a Radeon 7000 - not supported by fglrx, but supported by the opensource radeon driver. Before I did all the above, I did get the dual head working under Xorg with the radeon module, but it would frequently crash with this message in Xorg.0.log: (EE) RADEON(0): FIFO timed out, resetting engine... This xorg.conf is also included below. It would be unstable because the radeon module has little more than basic support for the X600. Was this dual head in an extended desktop mode (as opposed to mirror)? Do you by any chance still have this config file around? Here is my config. Thanks, I'll try adapting mine with your one's info tonight and see how it goes. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dual head setup
Hi guys, I'm banging my head against this one - with little effect... I just installed Etch on my workstation, which has a Radeon 7000 and two Dell 19 LCD screens. I'm trying to set up an extended desktop - sort of need it that way to be able to work efficiently. I followed various howtos and posts in the internet, and what I have now seems to be what I'm supposed to have but I'm still getting just a cloned display, and KDE doesn't give me the option to change anything (in Control Center -- Peripherals -- Display). Is there anything special I have to do - some package I forgot to install? Here is my config. Thanks Hans # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section Files FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1 FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi # path to defoma fonts FontPath/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType EndSection Section Module Loadbitmap Loadddc Loaddri Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx Loadint10 Loadvbe EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout gb EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/input/mice Option Protocol ImPS/2 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card1 Driver radeon BusID PCI:1:0:0 VideoRam32768 Screen 0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Card2 Driver radeon BusID PCI:1:0:0 VideoRam32768 Screen 1 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier DELL1 Option DPMS HorizSync 31-83 VertRefresh 56-76 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier DELL2 Option DPMS HorizSync 31-83 VertRefresh 56-76 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Device Card1 Monitor DELL1 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen2 Device Card2 Monitor DELL2 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen Screen1 Screen Screen2 LeftOf Screen1 InputDevice Generic Keyboard InputDevice Configured Mouse Option Xinerama on Option Clone off EndSection Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
net install using USB flash disc
Hi guys, I'm having no luck following this howto: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en I just get the following: Non-System disk or disk error replace and strike any key when ready I tried both methods and various combinations of either - no luck. Is there anthing special I have to do? Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: net install using USB flash disc
It should be - I have the USB boot option in my BIOS (it's a fairly new notebook - HP nx6125). I have the option of a boot menu, which lets me select hard disc, optical drive or USB disc. If the USB drive is not plugged in, it doesn't show on that menu, so I know the BIOS can see it. I guess I'll have to ask IT to install a CD-ROM for me (could take days). Thanks Hans On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 19:19 +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Friday 26 January 2007 18:54, Hans du Plooy wrote: Hi guys, I'm having no luck following this howto: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en I just get the following: Non-System disk or disk error replace and strike any key when ready I tried both methods and various combinations of either - no luck. Is there anthing special I have to do? Thanks Hans Well, I did got get any problem with this howto. Are you sure your system is booting on the USBkey? Thierry -- Linux is like a tipi: no Windows, no Gate and an Apache inside -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking CPU Recomendations
On Tue, 2007-01-02 at 23:40 -0500, Marty wrote: Nevetheless, I seem to recall not getting full memory bus speed specifically with the 1800+ on the KX400+, but I could be mistaken. The only reason why you wouldn't have been able to get the full memory bus speed is if the memory couldn't do it. Which doesn't necessarily mean the memory wasn't rated fast enough, but you could have had one dimm that was ever so slightly damaged, causing it not to run reliably (or at all) at it's rated speed, but run fine at a lower speed. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking CPU Recomendations
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 17:40 -0500, Marty wrote: Hans du Plooy wrote: Why would the CPU speed limit the amount of memory you can use? If the motherboard can handle 3GB, the CPU will handle 3GB. Hans I meant in terms of performance, not capacity. I don't recall the specifics, but the combination of available bus and CPU speeds may not be optimal for that CPU. In any case the bus speed is limited to 333Mhz (400Mhz overclocked), IIRC. Oh. Still, on the AthlonXP the memory bus is determined by the chipset. You could run them on anything from PC133 (as I had on a Gigabyte GA-7ZXE) to Dual channel DDR400, depending on what board with what chipset you buy. It's only from the Athlon64 line onwards where the memory speed is determined by the CPU, because the memory controller is built into the CPU. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking CPU Recomendations
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 14:39 -0500, Marty wrote: I recommend at least 1G of DDR SDRAM, which KX400 fully supports, but may not fully utilized by the 1800+. Why would the CPU speed limit the amount of memory you can use? If the motherboard can handle 3GB, the CPU will handle 3GB. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Seeking CPU Recomendations
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 13:33 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: considering but perhaps not. After all my objective is just to capture the digital video stream and burn it to a CD or DVD. If it is just to capture and not to capture and encode/transcode on the fly, an AthlonXP 1800+ (1.5GHz) is more than fast enough. For encoding on the fly, it is still fast enough. In fact, I encoded for DVD on the fly from my TV card with a 1200MHz Duron with 256MB PC133 memory. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for music player software
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 14:42 +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote: I know exactly what you mean. The UI of XMMS was one of the things that made me go looking for another player, years ago. He he, I used XMMS for much longer than I should have for just the opposite reason. I'm a longtime Winamp user, and I loved the simple - straightforward interface. Even got a skin for XMMS that looks like Winamp 2.x Different strokes... Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postfix w/ SASL
On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 19:12 -0500, Tom Allison wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions on how to go about doing this via .deb? Doesn't look like it will work or I'm missing a lot of something... Hi Tom, I've only managed to do this once before (on SUSE) and I wish I had written a howto based on that, because I've not managed to get it working since. The Postfix part, as per the Postfix docs are fairly straight forward, but I think the difficult part is SASL itself. I wish I knew why they chose to call it Simple Authentication :-) Maybe part of why I'm struggling is because my db backend for e-mail addresses, usernames and passwords is MySQL, but either ways, it's not easy or well documented. If you get this going, please tell us how or what docs you used successfully. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Release date of Debain Etch
On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 18:25 +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 22:29 +0530, Raghu Kodali wrote: It was announced that Etch will be released in Dec 2006. Can anybody tell me when it will be released (as stable). I am not brave enough to upgrade to a testing Etch. I am using Sarge 3.1r4 right now. Hi, Debian doesn't set release dates, the December date was only an estimate. The best way to keep track of Etch is to keep an eye on the debian-devel-announce list. That said, very little will be changing in Etch between now and when it gets released, so you can upgrade. Anything that might go wrong now will most likely go wrong too when Etch is stable. But I've upgraded a number of boxes, and the few issues I've had were minor and easily fixable. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade failes on ssh
On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 22:28 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: use dpkg with --force-all Thanks, that did it. Couldn't install telnetd because apt would moan about the deps. But at least I got ssh sorted out. Now just apache still seem to be broken - working on that. might help. good luck. hey! maybe you'll get to take trip ;) I'm actually making the trip in two weeks :-) Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cleanup after dist-upgrade
OK, I got all the problems sorted out after doing dist-upgrade on a live production server :-) What's the best way to clean this up? By the looks of it I now have two versions of mysql installed. mysql -V does give me the 5.0.30 though: # dpkg -l | grep mysql rc courier-authmysql 0.47-4sarge5 Courier Mail Server - MySQL authentication ii libdbd-mysql-perl 3.0008-1A Perl5 database interface to the MySQL data ii libmysqlclient10 3.23.56-3 LGPL-licensed client library for MySQL datab ii libmysqlclient12 4.0.24-10sarge2 mysql database client library ii libmysqlclient14 4.1.11a-4sarge7 mysql database client library ii libmysqlclient15off5.0.30-1mysql database client library ii libpam-mysql 0.6.2-1 PAM module allowing authentication from a My ii mysql-client-5.0 5.0.30-1mysql database client binaries ii mysql-common 5.0.30-1mysql database common files (e.g. /etc/mysql rc mysql-common-4.1 4.1.11a-4sarge7 mysql database common files (e.g. /etc/mysql rc mysql-server 4.0.24-10sarge2 mysql database server binaries ii mysql-server-4.1 5.0.30-1mysql database server (transitional package) ii mysql-server-5.0 5.0.30-1mysql database server binaries rc php4-mysql 4.3.10-18 MySQL module for php4 ii php5-mysql 5.2.0-7 MySQL module for php5 ii postfix-mysql 2.3.4-3 MYSQL map support for Postfix Thanks Hans
Re: cleanup after dist-upgrade
On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 10:29 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote: What's the best way to clean this up? By the looks of it I now have two versions of mysql installed. mysql -V does give me the 5.0.30 though: [snip] I just noticed: ii mysql-server-4.1 5.0.30-1 mysql database server (transitional package) Ok, so it's not an issue. Will these packages eventually be removed with regular apt-get update/upgrade? Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade failes on ssh [solved]
On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 10:24 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 10:18:14AM +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote: On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 22:28 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: use dpkg with --force-all Thanks, that did it. Couldn't install telnetd because apt would moan about the deps. But at least I got ssh sorted out. Now just apache still seem to be broken - working on that. I'm glad (based on your other thread) that you got it sorted. It pretty amazing thethings one can do eh? With enough coffee I can do anything :-) BTW, the reason why apahce was giving me bullets was that when ssh failed, the new version of apache2 had been installed, but not configured. After forcing the issues on ssh, I did apt-get dist-upgrade again, and it just continued where it stopped before. After that all I needed to do was merge some configs, restart a few services (it's a UML box, so I didn't even have to reboot it), and all is well again. might help. good luck. hey! maybe you'll get to take trip ;) I'm actually making the trip in two weeks :-) so... you just couldn't wait to do the upgrade eh? ;-P Actually the client were pressuring me for php5 and mysql5, and I prefer using testing (at least when it's closer to becoming the new stable) to backports. Besides, I've setup several servers with Etch lately and they're as stable as my woody and sarge servers - just more up to date. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get dist-upgrade failes on ssh
Hi guys, Going from sarge to etch, I'm getting this: # apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: ssh: Depends: openssh-client but it is not installed Depends: openssh-server but it is not installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. then: # apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following extra packages will be installed: openssh-client openssh-server Suggested packages: ssh-askpass xbase-clients rssh molly-guard The following NEW packages will be installed: openssh-client openssh-server 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. 318 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/826kB of archives. After unpacking 1966kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! openssh-client openssh-server Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y Preconfiguring packages ... (Reading database ... 28861 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking openssh-client (from .../openssh-client_1% 3a4.3p2-7_i386.deb) ... Transferring ownership of conffile /etc/ssh/moduli ... Transferring ownership of conffile /etc/ssh/ssh_config ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-client_1% 3a4.3p2-7_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/etc/ssh/ssh_config', which is also in package ssh Aborting ownership transfer of conffile /etc/ssh/moduli ... Aborting ownership transfer of conffile /etc/ssh/ssh_config ... Unpacking openssh-server (from .../openssh-server_1% 3a4.3p2-7_i386.deb) ... Transferring ownership of conffile /etc/default/ssh ... Transferring ownership of conffile /etc/init.d/ssh ... Transferring ownership of conffile /etc/pam.d/ssh ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1% 3a4.3p2-7_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/etc/init.d/ssh', which is also in package ssh dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Aborting ownership transfer of conffile /etc/default/ssh ... Aborting ownership transfer of conffile /etc/init.d/ssh ... Aborting ownership transfer of conffile /etc/pam.d/ssh ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-client_1%3a4.3p2-7_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a4.3p2-7_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) if I try to dpkg -i those packages by hand, I get the same problem. Has anyone seen this? The result of the above is that apt-get dist-upgrade aborted, leaving me with a non-functioning web/mail/dns server. I have gotten mysql, postfix, courier and bind working again, but still having issues with apache2. And of course my OS is now half sarge and half unconfigured etch. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade failes on ssh
On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 03:26 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote: Hi guys, Going from sarge to etch, I'm getting this: # apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: ssh: Depends: openssh-client but it is not installed Depends: openssh-server but it is not installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. [snip] Of course, the bigger issue is now, I can't open any new ssh sessions to the box (which happens to be halfway accross the globe). I still have some sessions open, but i'm on a dial-up so I'll get disconnected soon. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Intel D915GEV board problem
Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone else has problems with Debian on this board? I have Etch installed. About three out of four boots hang at random. What happens is it starts normally, but somewhere in the boot proccess the display gets corrupted and the machine hangs. Doesn't happen at the same place every time. When I installed it had kernel 2.6.16 from the CD, I upgraded to 2.6.17, and more recently to 2.6.18 - no effect. I've disabled all the but absolute necessary onboard devices, disabled HT, all with no effect. The rest of the hardware is pretty standard - 3GHz P4, 2GB DDR2-533 RAM, IDE disc. I've noticed also that it sometimes doesn't bring up eth0, so to eliminate prossible problems I disabled the rubbish onboard LAN (Marvel - why on earth do Intel not use their own controllers???) and put a know_to_be_good Realtek card in, also with no apparent effect. Anyone seen this? Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New hardware under Etch ?
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 15:30 +0100, Christian Christmann wrote: I've a system with 6 GB RAM, two AMD Opteron CPUs and an S-ATA HD. Will these components run under a default Debian Sarge. Hard to say, you provide no details on the hardware - what model motherboard, etc. If so, where can I check that both CPUs are running? Will /proc/cpuinfo provide appropriate information? /proc/cpuinfo will show you both CPUs as far as I know, regardless of how many are used (I may be wrong). Sure way to check is open top, then press 1 - if the kernel is using both CPUs, it will show you the two CPUs on separate lines. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://cdimage.debian.org/
Is http://cdimage.debian.org/ down? I'm getting time-outs all day. Tried from my UK server too - same result. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dumb question about jigdo and i386 and AMD 64 versions of Etch......
On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 20:31 +, Michael Fothergill wrote: How much commonality exists between the i386 versions of Etch or Sarge and the AMD 64 version of Etch? I expect very little. I was just wanting to do a similar thing - make a DVD of my Sarge-AMD64 CDs. But cdimage.debian.org doesn't have the 3.1r0a jigdo files any more, so I tried the latest ones, and it needed to download more than 5000 of the 7000 odd packages (of the first disc). So from Sarge to Etch I don't expect there to be any common packages. I am going to do this as an exercise to learn about jigdo and also to find the most efficient way of downloading a full distribution from the mirror sites. Jigdo certainly is efficient. The nice thing about it is if you download the DVDs and you need to install on a box that has only a CD-ROM, jy you use jigdo to make the CDs without downloading it all again. Although I have noticed that there are some packages on the DVDs that are not on the CDs and vice versa. The other nice thing is you can use ordinary apt mirrors (that do not contain the ISO images) to download and create the ISO images. And you can download from different mirrors. Say DVD1 from one mirror, DVD2 from another at the same time (if you have the bandwidth). Motherboard Form Factor Micro ATX Socket Type 754 Pin Compatible Processors AMD Athlon 64 and Sempron, Socket 754 (754-pin), 1600MT/s Cache Level 2 Size128 KB Chipset SiS760GX + 964 Try to get a board with VIA chipset. I've never had any particularly good experiences with SiS chipsets. Gigabyte has a Micro-ATX board with, something like K8M800M, which is available in a barebones box and is good value, and completely supported under Sarge. We use a couple of them for mail/web servers. I've also setup a Linux desktop one one of them with a 1.6GHz Sempron for my dad and it really flies. 512MB memory is sufficient, but always more is better. I have 2GB in my notebook, and I must say, it was worth every dime! I never utilize all of it, but that's the point - to never swap. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dumb question about jigdo and i386 and AMD 64 versions of Etch......
On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 02:12 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: I am going to do this as an exercise to learn about jigdo and also to find the most efficient way of downloading a full distribution from the mirror sites. Jigdo certainly is efficient. The nice thing about it is if you download the DVDs and you need to install on a box that has only a CD-ROM, jy you use jigdo to make the CDs without downloading it all again. Although I have noticed that there are some packages on the DVDs that are not on the CDs and vice versa. That's odd - short of documentation etc. changing from one set to the next, I'd expect the set of files to be the same. If you can identify files missing from one set, please report a bug! I'll definitely make a note next time. I didn't think much of it at the time, I'm used to SUSE where the DVD has more goodies than the CD set. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Etch ISO images
Hi guys, I want to download the latest current testing images. What is the difference between the first three images, and the -binary images after that in: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/jigdo-dvd/ Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian as a Web server
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 23:38 +0200, Justin Hartman wrote: I own two dedicated web servers and they run Red Hat and CentOS but what makes them different to Debian? I have done a lot of reading and research on Debian and my impression of, particularly stable is that it is one of the most reliable, stable GNU/Linux systems available out there. You can defenitely use Debian. Debian Stable (Sarge) is about a stable as it gets - you have to shoot at the box to make it stop :-). I am running a couple of web/mail/dns hosting servers running ISPconfig on Sarge. None of them have ever given any problems. One of the things that I like about Debian over RHEL etc. is the ease of updating the system, if needs be. One of the above mentioned systems is more a testbed than anything else, so I'm often asked to add stuff or update mysql/php/whatever. After using backports for a while, and selectively, by hand, installing debs from testing, I decided to dist-upgrade to Etch, and guess what? It went absolutely smoothly - not a single problem. I had to adapt a few config files here and there, but nothing that wasn't obvious. Last time I upgraded a RH server (7.1 to 7.2) I spent a week sorting out problems. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA PCI
On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 18:18 +0800, Bob wrote: I have no experience with the PCI-E card, it's a 2 port card so that would support a max of 10 drives, also it employs a different chipset the sil3132 for PCI-E vs the sil3124 for PCI-X however they use the same driver sata_sil24 so it should work. Update the list if it all works for you. I will, but that might be a while - there are other things to do first... Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Two gateways on same network
Hi guys, I'm setting up a Debian antispam mail relay. I have two gateways on the network (two separate internet connections): 4mbit ADSL = 192.168.1.6 128k line = 192.168.1.1 Both have NAT firewalls, both forward port 25 to the Debian box. I'm trying to do the following: Always use 192.168.1.6 as the default gateway, except when: 1. Connections are received via 192.168.1.1. Because if it doesn't reply via the same gateway, the connection just times out. 2. 192.168.1.6's connection goes down, for whatever reason. So basically the leased line would be a backup MX. I have put two network cards in, both with IPs on the same network, but with different gateways specified in /etc/network/interfaces. But for some reason both try to use 192.168.1.1 as the gateway, regardless. If the second network card is not necessary, that would be OK too. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two gateways on same network
On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 20:50 +0100, srg krn wrote: It is normal that if I connect to your public IP (say IPa) from the 128k line my connection times out. THE REASON IS: It is normal because I am in Internet and my machine sends the SYN [snip] Thanks, the why I understand - it's the how... 4. Create the two routing tables (see Linux Advanced Routing HOWTO) I found it after I sent the mail - there's an example of just what I'm trying. but this is very simple, it is only to put two lines (one for each routing table) at /etc/iproute2/rt_tables 5. Add the static routes to one of each tables. ip route add default via 192.168.1.1 table isp_128k ip route add default via 192.168.1.6 table isp_4M 6. Add ip rules First, see the output from ip rules show ip rule add from 192.168.1.10 lookup table table_isp4M ip rule add from 192.168.1.11 lookup table table_128k Thanks, I'll do this tomorrow and see what it does. Will report back. Thanks for taking the time to reply so thoroughly. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SATA PCI
On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 13:43 +0800, Bob wrote: Sorry delay RL. http://www.stardom.com.tw/others%20satacard.htm 4 port PCI-X Nice! I lilke the e-SATA express card - solves a few minor storage headaches for me! Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adding additional postfix server to init daemon
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 18:23 -0800, Adam D wrote: I just have created additional postfix servers on the mail server and would like to add the additional configs into the init daemon but looking at the scrip from LaMont Jones I am not able to decipher where to put the additional servers. I have an old script which is shorter and does not have a lot of the extra codes as the newest one. Does anyone have an idea as to add additional postfix servers? I am a bit perplexed. Thanks, -Adam Do I understand you correctly that you're running two (or more) instances of postfix? This is what I use on Sarge for two instances. It's easily expandable to handle more. You'll see the config dir for the second instance is /etc/postfix-out: #!/bin/sh # # Start or stop TWO Postfix Instances # Assumes first instance config files are in /etc/postfix # and second instance files are in /etc/postfix-out # # For Debian Linux 3.0. # PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin DAEMON=/usr/sbin/postfix NAME=Postfix case $1 in start) echo -n Starting mail transport agent: Postfix $DAEMON start 21 | (grep -v 'starting the Postfix' 12 || /bin/true) echo . echo -n Starting mail transport agent: Postfix-out $DAEMON -c /etc/postfix-out start 21 | (grep -v 'starting the Postfix' 12 || /bin/true) echo . ;; stop) echo -n Stopping mail transport agent: Postfix $DAEMON stop 21 | (grep -v 'stopping the Postfix' 12 || /bin/true) echo . echo -n Stopping mail transport agent: Postfix-out $DAEMON -c /etc/postfix-out stop 21 | (grep -v 'stopping the Postfix' 12 || /bin/true) echo . ;; restart) $0 stop $0 start ;; *) echo Usage: /etc/init.d/postfix {start|stop|restart} exit 1 ;; esac exit 0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 13:14 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: So I give up and ask you, what's your killer app(s)? 1. Postfix. 2. Amarok. Yes, both run on other *nix, so it's not strictly Linux, but in both cases the authors were very clear that they have no plans to make it run on Windows. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 10:08 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Well, sure. If FreeBSD had been easy to install in year 2000, had a large community, and apps like Netscape (or was Mozilla released by then?) then I maybe would have tried FreeBSD. They had, actually. I remember going to an internet cafe while on holiday in December 2000. I was surprised to see they were running some flavour of BSD (I think FreeBSD but I'm not sure) with Netscape Navigator. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hardware raid vs. software raid
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 17:20 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: My concern is that we are going to have only one server. So if there was a hardware problem, with software raid I could just temporarily move the disks to an ordinary workstation and serve the data from there. With hardware raid, I suppose I would have to wait for replacement parts. If you do the following: 1. Take a snapshot of the system after installing and configuring everything. 2. Make good backups of /home and (for Samba /etc/samba) then you can get back up and running en very little time. I take periodic snapshots of servers when I get a chance to restart them (like after a kernel update scheduled for after hours. Takes me a couple of minutes to make a tarball of the / partition and regular bakcups take care of /home and databases. Thanks to the kind of unstable power around here that can blow a UPS and everything on it in one go, I've had to recover whole servers a few times. Above recipy works every time. As for software v.s. hardware, for a simple raid-1 I find software good enough but only if cost is really a huge factor. If I do Raid-5 I insist on a raid card. Adaptec 2410SA PCI SATA (and the SCSI equivalent) has served me very well. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's the killer app for GNU/Linux systems?
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 21:58 +0100, Björn Gustafsson wrote: On the contrary, the amarok team has stated that a windows port can/will happen with the 2.0 codebase ( http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/225-Porting-to-Windows-part-2.html for example ). The post referred to in the first sentance is the last I read on the matter. Good to hear there are plans. My mom loves her iTunes, but she had to admit that Amarok looked quite cool Hans
Re: Laptop choice?
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 18:13 -0800, Jeff Goodman wrote: 2. HP of late has a filthy habit of boobytrapping their notebooks to not take generic components. My nx6125, for example, will not work with any hard disc other than the 80GB Seagate (with HP firmware) that it came with. Sure you can put something else in, but it simply disables DMA making it hardly usable. This leaves you with two problems. If you run out of space, you can't put something bigger in, and b) if your disc dies after the warranty ran out, you're going to pay through your nose for a new drive. I can also not replace the wireless min-PCI card. Mine shipped with a broadcom. At the time, ndiswrapper was quite unstable, so I put an Atheros card in that I scavanged from an AP. Notebook wouln't even post - says something like Unsupported PCI device, please remove. I thought, OK, I'll buy one from HP - got an HP branded Intel 2200 card (which was listed as compatible with my notebook) - same story. I have to disagree. Recently bought a dv2130us for around a thousand bucks, has a Core 2 Duo, 1GB (since updated to 2GB), 14 screen (for portability) and 3.5 hour battery. Swapped out the harddisk with an old 40GB Hitachi that was laying around, and effortlessly installed Kubuntu Dapper. Pretty much everything worked out-of the-box, including wireless, suspend, hibernate, etc. Frankly, I was floored! My boss' HP nx9010 is cool with swapping drives too, but mine is not. You're welcome to look up on the nx6125. After buying the HP Intel ipw2200 I phoned HP to complain. They confirmed that it is not supported and at the same time they pulled the page that listed it as compatible (which I had luckily saved when I ordered). My point is that when you buy an HP you don't know if you're going to have issues like that. Incidently, my extra disc is also a Hitaschi 40GB (5400rpm 8mb). The notebook picks it up, but it runs so slowly. I popped in the HP Windows CD when I got home after work. By the time I went to bed it was still busy with the first phase. My extra hard drive worked perfectly in my old Compaq P-III as now in an external enclosure. The Intel card I sold off to a friend who's using it in his Dell. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]