Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-05-05 Thread Phil Requirements
On 2010-04-30 10:05:42 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:
>
>http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg
>
>Does that look right to you?

I think the problem you are having is "un-themed GTK". You don't have
a desktop suite, so maybe you're like me and you like to keep your
system lean and mean. If so, it could be that you don't have any GTK
themes installed. A simple, lightweight GTK theme will drastically
improve the appearance of Iceweasel. The default GTK theme is called
Raleigh and it's not very good, the fonts are too big, and so on.

I lived without a theme for a while until I got so sick of how ugly
my GTK apps were. Then I went searching for themes and everything's
better. You can even get themes that are light and have good
performance.

If you are interested in getting some simple GTK themes:

aptitude install gtk2-engines

Hope this helps,

Phil


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Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-30 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

deloptes wrote:

James Stuckey wrote:


On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Camaleón  wrote:


On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:27:26 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:


On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Camaleón wrote:


http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg

Does that look right to you?

Mmmm, yes, nothing strange :-?. I bit "big" for my taste...

Do you find the font of the toolbar is still "small"? Then instead
96dpi set to 120dpi, that will make things "bigger".


Doing "xrandr --dpi 120", logging out of wmii and logging back in
doesn't change anything.

Yes, as you already said yesterday, that option was not working for you.
I dunno how to set DPI under wmii DE, unless you try to edit the
xorg.conf file and put there.


Maybe the problem I perceived in the text on screen is just how the
monitor displays.

I fail to see anything wrong in the image you sent. It is readable, is
not distorted, is not small... :-)

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Okay, I'll figure out how to set DPI and assume that whatever problem I
see with the onscreen fonts here is due to the monitor.

Thanks!


no, monitor doesn't have to do anything with it

you have to distinguish things - that's it
I'm suffering the same issue here, but did configure most of the things.

For you however with this funny windows manager it would be really to set
DPI globally. If you change DPI in the firefox properties it is applied
only to the text, but not to the window itself. That's why it looks like
much bigger then the menu area. I leave the firefox DPI setting to system
and set the DPI in the window manager/server.



Right, I set DPI in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf:

...
command=/usr/bin/X1 :0 -layout X1 -dpi 110 -isolateDevice PCI:1:0:0 vt7
...
command=/usr/bin/X0 :1 -layout X0 -dpi 110 -isolateDevice PCI:0:8:0 vt51
...

Hugo


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Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-30 Thread deloptes
James Stuckey wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Camaleón  wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:27:26 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Camaleón wrote:
>> >
>> >> > http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg
>> >> >
>> >> > Does that look right to you?
>> >>
>> >> Mmmm, yes, nothing strange :-?. I bit "big" for my taste...
>> >>
>> >> Do you find the font of the toolbar is still "small"? Then instead
>> >> 96dpi set to 120dpi, that will make things "bigger".
>> >>
>> > Doing "xrandr --dpi 120", logging out of wmii and logging back in
>> > doesn't change anything.
>>
>> Yes, as you already said yesterday, that option was not working for you.
>> I dunno how to set DPI under wmii DE, unless you try to edit the
>> xorg.conf file and put there.
>>
>> > Maybe the problem I perceived in the text on screen is just how the
>> > monitor displays.
>>
>> I fail to see anything wrong in the image you sent. It is readable, is
>> not distorted, is not small... :-)
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> --
>> Camaleón
>>
>>
>>
> Okay, I'll figure out how to set DPI and assume that whatever problem I
> see with the onscreen fonts here is due to the monitor.
> 
> Thanks!

no, monitor doesn't have to do anything with it

you have to distinguish things - that's it
I'm suffering the same issue here, but did configure most of the things.

For you however with this funny windows manager it would be really to set
DPI globally. If you change DPI in the firefox properties it is applied
only to the text, but not to the window itself. That's why it looks like
much bigger then the menu area. I leave the firefox DPI setting to system
and set the DPI in the window manager/server.

regards


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Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-30 Thread James Stuckey
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:27:26 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Camaleón wrote:
> >
> >> > http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg
> >> >
> >> > Does that look right to you?
> >>
> >> Mmmm, yes, nothing strange :-?. I bit "big" for my taste...
> >>
> >> Do you find the font of the toolbar is still "small"? Then instead
> >> 96dpi set to 120dpi, that will make things "bigger".
> >>
> > Doing "xrandr --dpi 120", logging out of wmii and logging back in
> > doesn't change anything.
>
> Yes, as you already said yesterday, that option was not working for you.
> I dunno how to set DPI under wmii DE, unless you try to edit the
> xorg.conf file and put there.
>
> > Maybe the problem I perceived in the text on screen is just how the
> > monitor displays.
>
> I fail to see anything wrong in the image you sent. It is readable, is
> not distorted, is not small... :-)
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>
>
Okay, I'll figure out how to set DPI and assume that whatever problem I see
with the onscreen fonts here is due to the monitor.

Thanks!


Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:27:26 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Camaleón wrote:
> 
>> > http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg
>> >
>> > Does that look right to you?
>>
>> Mmmm, yes, nothing strange :-?. I bit "big" for my taste...
>>
>> Do you find the font of the toolbar is still "small"? Then instead
>> 96dpi set to 120dpi, that will make things "bigger".
>>
> Doing "xrandr --dpi 120", logging out of wmii and logging back in
> doesn't change anything.

Yes, as you already said yesterday, that option was not working for you. 
I dunno how to set DPI under wmii DE, unless you try to edit the 
xorg.conf file and put there.
 
> Maybe the problem I perceived in the text on screen is just how the
> monitor displays.

I fail to see anything wrong in the image you sent. It is readable, is 
not distorted, is not small... :-)

Greetings,

-- 
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Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-30 Thread James Stuckey
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:05:42 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:
>
> >> Can you please upload a snapshot so we can see what you get?
> >>
> >>
> > http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg
> >
> > Does that look right to you?
>
> Mmmm, yes, nothing strange :-?. I bit "big" for my taste...
>
> Do you find the font of the toolbar is still "small"? Then instead 96dpi
> set to 120dpi, that will make things "bigger".
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
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>
Doing "xrandr --dpi 120", logging out of wmii and logging back in doesn't
change anything.

Maybe the problem I perceived in the text on screen is just how the monitor
displays.


Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:05:42 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:

>> Can you please upload a snapshot so we can see what you get?
>>
>>
> http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg
> 
> Does that look right to you?

Mmmm, yes, nothing strange :-?. I bit "big" for my taste...

Do you find the font of the toolbar is still "small"? Then instead 96dpi 
set to 120dpi, that will make things "bigger".

Greetings,

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Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-30 Thread James Stuckey
> Can you please upload a snapshot so we can see what you get?
>
>
http://www.jhstuckey.com/1080.jpeg

Does that look right to you?


Re: X server starts on the wrong console (was: New monitor, how to change screen resolution?)

2010-04-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:26:26 -0400 (EDT), Redalert Commander wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 14:43 -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
>> On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 17:35 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
>>> 
>>> Then, in theory, restarting the X server again
>>> (such as with /etc/init.d/gdm restart) should cause the X server
>>> to restart on vt 7.  This used to work, but the last time I tried
>>> it I ended up with two X servers, one on VT 7 and one on VT 8!
>>> I had to reboot to clean things up.  This situation is a mess and
>>> seems to be getting worse.  As long as you login to GNOME only once
>>> per boot and shutdown the system from GNOME you won't have this
>>> problem.  The initial allocation of VT 7 after a reboot works fine.
>>> But if you logout of GNOME after logging in, you're likely to have
>>> this problem.  It doesn't seem to fail all the time, though.  Perhaps
>>> it is a timing-related problem.
>> 
>> I've noticed this too lately, although i use the nvidia driver created
>> by module assistant.
>> 
>> I wonder if anyone not using the nv or nvidia driver also see this?
> 
> I seem to have this all the time, even right after booting, although...
> I have 3 displays, and 2 ports on my GPU, so I often switch them, after
> doing so, I copy the relevant xorg.conf to it's proper location, and
> restart gdm. In doing so, I only log in into the first console, using
> ctrl+alt+F1, do the copy and /etc/init.d/gdm restart, at this point x is
> running in VT8, not 7. Up till this point, I haven't logged in to gnome.

But the key is restarting the X server, not necessarily a logout and
login to the GNOME desktop.  A login/logout sequence is simply the most
common way to restart the X server.  The X server can only start once
safely.  After that, who knows what VT it will end up on, and what parts
of the old instance of the server will get terminated.  Has anyone seen
something like this on a non-Nvidia driver (not nv and not nvidia)?

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Re: X server starts on the wrong console (was: New monitor, how to change screen resolution?)

2010-04-29 Thread Redalert Commander
On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 14:43 -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 17:35 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> 
> > and it will work.  Then, in theory, restarting the X server again
> > (such as with /etc/init.d/gdm restart) should cause the X server
> > to restart on vt 7.  This used to work, but the last time I tried
> > it I ended up with two X servers, one on VT 7 and one on VT 8!
> > I had to reboot to clean things up.  This situation is a mess and
> > seems to be getting worse.  As long as you login to GNOME only once
> > per boot and shutdown the system from GNOME you won't have this
> > problem.  The initial allocation of VT 7 after a reboot works fine.
> > But if you logout of GNOME after logging in, you're likely to have
> > this problem.  It doesn't seem to fail all the time, though.  Perhaps
> > it is a timing-related problem.
> 
> I've noticed this too lately, although i use the nvidia driver created
> by module assistant.
> 
> I wonder if anyone not using the nv or nvidia driver also see this?
> 
> 

I seem to have this all the time, even right after booting, although...
I have 3 displays, and 2 ports on my GPU, so I often switch them, after
doing so, I copy the relevant xorg.conf to it's proper location, and
restart gdm. In doing so, I only log in into the first console, using
ctrl+alt+F1, do the copy and /etc/init.d/gdm restart, at this point x is
running in VT8, not 7. Up till this point, I haven't logged in to gnome.




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Re: X server starts on the wrong console (was: New monitor, how to change screen resolution?)

2010-04-29 Thread Alan Ianson
On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 17:35 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:

> and it will work.  Then, in theory, restarting the X server again
> (such as with /etc/init.d/gdm restart) should cause the X server
> to restart on vt 7.  This used to work, but the last time I tried
> it I ended up with two X servers, one on VT 7 and one on VT 8!
> I had to reboot to clean things up.  This situation is a mess and
> seems to be getting worse.  As long as you login to GNOME only once
> per boot and shutdown the system from GNOME you won't have this
> problem.  The initial allocation of VT 7 after a reboot works fine.
> But if you logout of GNOME after logging in, you're likely to have
> this problem.  It doesn't seem to fail all the time, though.  Perhaps
> it is a timing-related problem.

I've noticed this too lately, although i use the nvidia driver created
by module assistant.

I wonder if anyone not using the nv or nvidia driver also see this?


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X server starts on the wrong console (was: New monitor, how to change screen resolution?)

2010-04-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:27:38 -0400 (EDT), Redalert Commander wrote:
> Stephen Powell wrote:
>> James Stuckey wrote:
>>>
>>> (7)
>>> ...
>>> (++) using VT number 8
>> 
>> This is off topic, but did you notice that the X server initialized itself
>> on VT number 8 instead of VT number 7?  That means, for example, that if
>> you are on virtual console number 1 (text mode) and wish to switch to
>> the X server, you will need to use Ctrl+Alt+F8 instead of the usual
>> Ctrl+Alt+F7.  I've noticed this bug too lately.  In fact, it's
>> possible that you have have two copies of the X server running.
>> One on VT 7 and one on VT 8.  Wouldn't that be a hoot?
> 
> I noticed that on my system as well, and you might be correct, although
> VT7 only gives you a black screen with blinking cursor.
> You might be right about the 2 x servers:
> ste...@pc-steven:~$ ps aux | grep gdm
> root  2215  0.0  0.0  15372  1716 ?Ss   21:15 0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
> root  2220  0.0  0.1  15712  3248 ?S21:15 0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
> root  2229  2.3  2.1  77360 66380 tty7 Ss+  21:15 1:22 /usr/bin/X :0 
> -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
> steven3880  0.0  0.0   3116   768 pts/0S+   22:14   0:00 grep gdm
> 
> Might be a bug in the NVidia kernel module? Or is this something we can
> fix in the X configuration? (it would be nice to have in on VT7 again as
> default)

First of all, I need to correct myself.  When switching from a text console
to the X console, you don't need Ctrl.  For example, Alt+F7 (or Alt+F8
in this case) will work fine.  Ctrl is only needed when switching from the
X console to a text console.  For example, Ctrl+Alt+F1.  I know you know
that, but for the sake of correcting my earlier mistake I mention it.

Second, the problem with the X server starting on the wrong console seems
to be related to a failure to deallocate virtual terminal 7 when the old
X server stops.  I'm using the nv driver, which is also from nvidia, though
it is open source.  I'm wondering if anybody has seen this on a non-nvidia
driver.

If I switch to a text console, login as root, and issue

   deallocvt 7

I get an error something like this:

   Device or resource busy

Someone gave me the tip some time ago that if I kill the process

   console_kit

or something like that (I don't remember the exact name) then I can
do a

   deallocvt 7

and it will work.  Then, in theory, restarting the X server again
(such as with /etc/init.d/gdm restart) should cause the X server
to restart on vt 7.  This used to work, but the last time I tried
it I ended up with two X servers, one on VT 7 and one on VT 8!
I had to reboot to clean things up.  This situation is a mess and
seems to be getting worse.  As long as you login to GNOME only once
per boot and shutdown the system from GNOME you won't have this
problem.  The initial allocation of VT 7 after a reboot works fine.
But if you logout of GNOME after logging in, you're likely to have
this problem.  It doesn't seem to fail all the time, though.  Perhaps
it is a timing-related problem.

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Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-29 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:20:36 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Camaleón wrote:

>> Option   "DPI" "96 x 96"
>>
>> Under your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf "Monitor" section?
>>
>> (make a backup copy of the original file before making any change)
>>
>> I can't tell if that made a change or not. In either case, the fonts
>> still
> look like garbage/aren't easy to read. 
> I should note, the fonts in what
> I'm typing right now (gmail) aren't bad -- it's the fonts on the menu
> bar in iceweasel/icedove/whatever program.

Can you please upload a snapshot so we can see what you get?

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Re: New monitor, how to change screen resolution?

2010-04-29 Thread Redalert Commander
On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 15:20 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:30:40 -0400 (EDT), James Stuckey wrote:

[snip]

> >
> > (1) I'm on AMD64/Asus motherboard P5Q
> > (2) NVIDIA 9800GT
> > (3) ASUS VH242H
> > (4) LCD
> > (5) Digital connection, not DVI
> 
> Digital connection, but not DVI?  Hmm.  This may be out of my league.  I don't
> have any experience with that.

HDMI perhaps?

[snip]

> >
> > (7)
> > ...
> > (++) using VT number 8
> 
> This is off topic, but did you notice that the X server initialized itself
> on VT number 8 instead of VT number 7?  That means, for example, that if
> you are on virtual console number 1 (text mode) and wish to switch to
> the X server, you will need to use Ctrl+Alt+F8 instead of the usual
> Ctrl+Alt+F7.  I've noticed this bug too lately.  In fact, it's
> possible that you have have two copies of the X server running.
> One on VT 7 and one on VT 8.  Wouldn't that be a hoot?

I noticed that on my system as well, and you might be correct, although
VT7 only gives you a black screen with blinking cursor.
You might be right about the 2 x servers:
ste...@pc-steven:~$ ps aux | grep gdm
root  2215  0.0  0.0  15372  1716 ?Ss   21:15
0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
root  2220  0.0  0.1  15712  3248 ?S21:15
0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
root  2229  2.3  2.1  77360 66380 tty7 Ss+  21:15
1:22 /usr/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp
vt7
steven3880  0.0  0.0   3116   768 pts/0S+   22:14   0:00 grep
gdm

Might be a bug in the NVidia kernel module? Or is this something we can
fix in the X configuration? (it would be nice to have in on VT7 again as
default)

> > 
> > ...
> > (II) Apr 29 19:58:59 NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x
> > 1080
> 
> Is that the resolution you are trying to obtain: 1920x1080?  It's not a
> standard 4:3 aspect ratio, so it's most likely probed from the monitor.

It's probably a TV, I have one of these myself, quite nice for watching
films.

> > 
> > ...
> > (8) Squeeze with Sid nvidia drivers
> 
> -- 
>   .''`. Stephen Powell
>  : :'  :
>  `. `'`
>`-
> 
> 

James, about your resolution, have you tried nvidia-settings (needs to
be invoked as root in an x session, start a terminal session from the
menu, it's also listed in the System menu, but doesn't get invoked as
root). If you don't have that tool, you can get it from the
repositories.

Regards,
Steven



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Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-29 Thread James Stuckey
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:06:08 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Camaleón wrote:
> >
> >> You could try running:
> >>
> >> xrandr --dpi 96
> >>
> >> Or if you have installed nvidia control panel application, IIRC you can
> >> also change it from there.
> >>
> > xrandr --dpi 96 or --dpi [any other value] doesn't change anything. I
> > don't see anything in nvidia-settings about DPI.
>
> Mmmm... how about specifying:
>
> Option   "DPI" "96 x 96"
>
> Under your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf "Monitor" section?
>
> (make a backup copy of the original file before making any change)
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>
> I can't tell if that made a change or not. In either case, the fonts still
look like garbage/aren't easy to read. I should note, the fonts in what I'm
typing right now (gmail) aren't bad -- it's the fonts on the menu bar in
iceweasel/icedove/whatever program.


Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-29 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 22:06:08 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Camaleón wrote:
> 
>> You could try running:
>>
>> xrandr --dpi 96
>>
>> Or if you have installed nvidia control panel application, IIRC you can
>> also change it from there.
>>
> xrandr --dpi 96 or --dpi [any other value] doesn't change anything. I
> don't see anything in nvidia-settings about DPI.

Mmmm... how about specifying:

Option   "DPI" "96 x 96"

Under your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf "Monitor" section?

(make a backup copy of the original file before making any change)

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Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-29 Thread James Stuckey
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:46:31 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:
>
> >> > I don't use gnome or KDE.
> >>
> >> And what DE (if any) are you using? :-)
> >>
> > I'm using wmii
>
> Uh... and how does one change DPI settings in that :-)?
>
> You could try running:
>
> xrandr --dpi 96
>
> Or if you have installed nvidia control panel application, IIRC you can
> also change it from there.
>
> Greetings,
>
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>
>
xrandr --dpi 96 or --dpi [any other value] doesn't change anything. I don't
see anything in nvidia-settings about DPI.


Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-29 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:46:31 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:

>> > I don't use gnome or KDE.
>>
>> And what DE (if any) are you using? :-)
>>
> I'm using wmii

Uh... and how does one change DPI settings in that :-)?

You could try running:

xrandr --dpi 96

Or if you have installed nvidia control panel application, IIRC you can 
also change it from there.

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Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-29 Thread James Stuckey
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:40:46 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
> >
> >> That is probably due to a low DPI value. You can change it to whatever
> >> value you feel more confortable with.
>
> > I don't use gnome or KDE.
>
> And what DE (if any) are you using? :-)
>
> Greetings,
>
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I'm using wmii


Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-29 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:40:46 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
> 
>> That is probably due to a low DPI value. You can change it to whatever
>> value you feel more confortable with.

> I don't use gnome or KDE.

And what DE (if any) are you using? :-)

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Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-29 Thread James Stuckey
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:39 PM, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:27:59 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:
>
> (...)
>
> > I don't recall how the config file was made. The resolution I want is
> > 1920x1080. Restarting X gave me this resolution. Now my fonts on screen
> > (like on the menu bar in iceweasel/icedove, for example) aren't too easy
> > to read. They just don't look right. How do I fix that?
>
> That is probably due to a low DPI value. You can change it to whatever
> value you feel more confortable with.
>
> DPI value can be modified in GNOME under "fonts settings / details" and
> in KDE there should be a similar way under its control center / fonts.
>
> A value of "96 dpi" should render fonts just fine.
>
> Greetings,
>
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I don't use gnome or KDE.


Re: Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-29 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:27:59 +0200, James Stuckey wrote:

(...)

> I don't recall how the config file was made. The resolution I want is
> 1920x1080. Restarting X gave me this resolution. Now my fonts on screen
> (like on the menu bar in iceweasel/icedove, for example) aren't too easy
> to read. They just don't look right. How do I fix that?

That is probably due to a low DPI value. You can change it to whatever 
value you feel more confortable with.

DPI value can be modified in GNOME under "fonts settings / details" and 
in KDE there should be a similar way under its control center / fonts.

A value of "96 dpi" should render fonts just fine.

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Making onscreen fonts read-able[was:New monitor, how to change screen resolution?]

2010-04-29 Thread James Stuckey
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:30:40 -0400 (EDT), James Stuckey wrote:
> > Stephen Powell wrote:
> >> You didn't provide much information, James.  I'm afraid that there's no
> >> "one size fits all" answer to that question.  It depends on a lot of
> >> things.
> >> Please provide the following information:
> >>
> >> (1) The make and model of your computer
> >> (2) The make and model of your video card
> >> (3) The make and model of your monitor
> >> (4) The type of monitor (CRT, LCD, etc.)
> >> (5) The type of video connection used (digital, analog, etc.)
> >> (6) The contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if it exists
> >> (7) The contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> >> (8) Which release of Debian you are running (Lenny, Squeeze, Sid, etc)
> >
> > (1) I'm on AMD64/Asus motherboard P5Q
> > (2) NVIDIA 9800GT
> > (3) ASUS VH242H
> > (4) LCD
> > (5) Digital connection, not DVI
>
> Digital connection, but not DVI?  Hmm.  This may be out of my league.  I
> don't
> have any experience with that.
>
> > (6)
> > Section "ServerLayout"
> > Identifier "X.org Configured"
> > Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> > InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> > InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Files"
> > ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
> > FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
> > FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
> > FontPath "built-ins"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Module"
> > Load  "record"
> > Load  "extmod"
> > Load  "glx"
> > Load  "dri"
> > Load  "dbe"
> > Load  "dri2"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> > Driver  "kbd"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Mouse0"
> > Driver  "mouse"
> > Option"Protocol" "auto"
> > Option"Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> > Option"ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Monitor"
> > Identifier   "Monitor0"
> > VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
> > ModelName"Monitor Model"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Device"
> > ### Available Driver options are:-
> > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
> > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
> > ### [arg]: arg optional
> > #Option "SWcursor"   # []
> > #Option "HWcursor"   # []
> > #Option "NoAccel"# []
> > #Option "ShadowFB"   # []
> > #Option "UseFBDev"   # []
> > #Option "Rotate" # []
> > #Option "VideoKey"   # 
> > #Option "FlatPanel"  # []
> > #Option "FPDither"   # []
> > #Option "CrtcNumber" # 
> > #Option "FPScale"# []
> > #Option "FPTweak"# 
> > #Option "DualHead"   # []
> > Identifier  "Card0"
> > Driver  "nvidia"
> > VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
> > BoardName   "G92 [GeForce 9800 GT]"
> > BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Screen"
> > Identifier "Screen0"
> > Device "Card0"
> > Monitor"Monitor0"
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 1
> > EndSubSection
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 4
> > EndSubSection
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 8
> > EndSubSection
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 15
> > EndSubSection
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 16
> > EndSubSection
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 24
> > EndSubSection
> > EndSection
>
> It's the proprietary nvidia driver!  Oh no!  ;-)
>
> My first question is, how did you come up with this config file?
> Did you create it yourself by hand?  Did you run a script to create it?
> Did the proprietary nvidia driver installation program create it for you?
> It seems way over-specified to me.
> >
> > (7)
> > ...
> > (++) using VT number 8
>
> This is off topic, but did you notice that the X server initialized itself
> on VT number 8 instead of VT number 7?  That means, for example, that if
> you are on virtual console number 1 (text mode) and wish to switch to
> the X server, you will need to use Ctrl+Alt+F8 instead of the usual
> Ctrl+Alt+F7.  

Re: New monitor, how to change screen resolution?

2010-04-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:30:40 -0400 (EDT), James Stuckey wrote:
> Stephen Powell wrote:
>> You didn't provide much information, James.  I'm afraid that there's no
>> "one size fits all" answer to that question.  It depends on a lot of
>> things.
>> Please provide the following information:
>>
>> (1) The make and model of your computer
>> (2) The make and model of your video card
>> (3) The make and model of your monitor
>> (4) The type of monitor (CRT, LCD, etc.)
>> (5) The type of video connection used (digital, analog, etc.)
>> (6) The contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if it exists
>> (7) The contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>> (8) Which release of Debian you are running (Lenny, Squeeze, Sid, etc)
>
> (1) I'm on AMD64/Asus motherboard P5Q
> (2) NVIDIA 9800GT
> (3) ASUS VH242H
> (4) LCD
> (5) Digital connection, not DVI

Digital connection, but not DVI?  Hmm.  This may be out of my league.  I don't
have any experience with that.

> (6)
> Section "ServerLayout"
> Identifier "X.org Configured"
> Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Files"
> ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
> FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
> FontPath "built-ins"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Module"
> Load  "record"
> Load  "extmod"
> Load  "glx"
> Load  "dri"
> Load  "dbe"
> Load  "dri2"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> Driver  "kbd"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Mouse0"
> Driver  "mouse"
> Option"Protocol" "auto"
> Option"Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> Option"ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier   "Monitor0"
> VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
> ModelName"Monitor Model"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> ### Available Driver options are:-
> ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
> ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
> ### [arg]: arg optional
> #Option "SWcursor"   # []
> #Option "HWcursor"   # []
> #Option "NoAccel"# []
> #Option "ShadowFB"   # []
> #Option "UseFBDev"   # []
> #Option "Rotate" # []
> #Option "VideoKey"   # 
> #Option "FlatPanel"  # []
> #Option "FPDither"   # []
> #Option "CrtcNumber" # 
> #Option "FPScale"# []
> #Option "FPTweak"# 
> #Option "DualHead"   # []
> Identifier  "Card0"
> Driver  "nvidia"
> VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
> BoardName   "G92 [GeForce 9800 GT]"
> BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen0"
> Device "Card0"
> Monitor"Monitor0"
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 1
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 4
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 8
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 15
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 16
> EndSubSection
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 24
> EndSubSection
> EndSection

It's the proprietary nvidia driver!  Oh no!  ;-)

My first question is, how did you come up with this config file?
Did you create it yourself by hand?  Did you run a script to create it?
Did the proprietary nvidia driver installation program create it for you?
It seems way over-specified to me.
>
> (7)
> ...
> (++) using VT number 8

This is off topic, but did you notice that the X server initialized itself
on VT number 8 instead of VT number 7?  That means, for example, that if
you are on virtual console number 1 (text mode) and wish to switch to
the X server, you will need to use Ctrl+Alt+F8 instead of the usual
Ctrl+Alt+F7.  I've noticed this bug too lately.  In fact, it's
possible that you have have two copies of the X server running.
One on VT 7 and one on VT 8.  Wouldn't that be a hoot?
> 
> ...
> (II) Apr 29 19:58:59 NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x
> 1080

Is that the resolution you are trying to obtain: 1920x1080?  It's not a
s

Re: New monitor, how to change screen resolution?

2010-04-29 Thread James Stuckey
> You didn't provide much information, James.  I'm afraid that there's no
> "one size fits all" answer to that question.  It depends on a lot of
> things.
> Please provide the following information:
>
> (1) The make and model of your computer
> (2) The make and model of your video card
> (3) The make and model of your monitor
> (4) The type of monitor (CRT, LCD, etc.)
> (5) The type of video connection used (digital, analog, etc.)
> (6) The contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if it exists
> (7) The contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> (8) Which release of Debian you are running (Lenny, Squeeze, Sid, etc)
>
>
Hi Stephen,

(1) I'm on AMD64/Asus motherboard P5Q
(2) NVIDIA 9800GT
(3) ASUS VH242H
(4) LCD
(5) Digital connection, not DVI

(6)
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
FontPath "built-ins"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "record"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "glx"
Load  "dri"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "dri2"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option"Protocol" "auto"
Option"Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option"ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "SWcursor"   # []
#Option "HWcursor"   # []
#Option "NoAccel"# []
#Option "ShadowFB"   # []
#Option "UseFBDev"   # []
#Option "Rotate" # []
#Option "VideoKey"   # 
#Option "FlatPanel"  # []
#Option "FPDither"   # []
#Option "CrtcNumber" # 
#Option "FPScale"# []
#Option "FPTweak"# 
#Option "DualHead"   # []
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "nvidia"
VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
BoardName   "G92 [GeForce 9800 GT]"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection

(7)
X.Org X Server 1.7.6
Release Date: 2010-03-17
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian
Current Operating System: Linux debian 2.6.32-3-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 24
18:07:42 UTC 2010 x86_64
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-amd64
root=UUID=cca7add1-981f-469f-9285-ae17722e24bd ro quiet
Build Date: 05 April 2010  02:21:15PM
xorg-server 2:1.7.6-2 (Timo Aaltonen )
Current version of pixman: 0.16.4
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Apr 29 19:58:58 2010
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Card0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/f

Re: New monitor, how to change screen resolution?

2010-04-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 07:42:58 -0400 (EDT), James Stuckey wrote:
> 
> I just changed monitors and the new one has a different resolution. How do I
> configure my system to account for the change?

You didn't provide much information, James.  I'm afraid that there's no
"one size fits all" answer to that question.  It depends on a lot of things.
Please provide the following information:

(1) The make and model of your computer
(2) The make and model of your video card
(3) The make and model of your monitor
(4) The type of monitor (CRT, LCD, etc.)
(5) The type of video connection used (digital, analog, etc.)
(6) The contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, if it exists
(7) The contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(8) Which release of Debian you are running (Lenny, Squeeze, Sid, etc)

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New monitor, how to change screen resolution?

2010-04-29 Thread James Stuckey
Hello,

I just changed monitors and the new one has a different resolution. How do I
configure my system to account for the change?


Re: Can not change Screen Resolution

2007-07-05 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 03:05:19PM -0700, yong lee wrote:
> Hi,
> I was using 1280x768. But after a reboot, my scrren
> changed to 640x480. Then, I went to Desktop |
> preference | Screen Resolution and tried to change the
> resolution back. But the drop down box did not work.
> The entry just stayed blue and did not show the rest
> of selections for the screen resolution. I was not
> able to change it back. 
> Any idea?

How about sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and ensuring that the
resolution(s) you desired are checked in the debconf configs?

Kumar
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Can not change Screen Resolution

2007-07-05 Thread yong lee
Hi,
I was using 1280x768. But after a reboot, my scrren
changed to 640x480. Then, I went to Desktop |
preference | Screen Resolution and tried to change the
resolution back. But the drop down box did not work.
The entry just stayed blue and did not show the rest
of selections for the screen resolution. I was not
able to change it back. 
Any idea?

Thanks
Yong


  

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Re: Change screen resolution

2006-05-31 Thread lmyho


--- Christopher Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 06:41:21PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> > 
> > --- Christopher Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 05:30:30PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen
> > > resolution is
> > > > so poorly set, which is actually different from the resolution I have 
> > > > set
> during
> > > the
> > > > initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible 
> > > > and so
> > > > uncomfortable!:((
> > > > 
> > > > The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high 
> > > > resolution
> > > before
> > > > install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown
> > > resolution!
> > > > I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find place to 
> > > > change
> the
> > > > resoluion!
> > > > 
> > > > Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low
> resolution
> > > > just kills me.:((
> > > 
> > > sarge or etch/sid?  at any rate what does the output of 
> > > 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Modes' (sub XF86Config[-4] for sarge) say?  
> > > Any of those lines have the resolution you want?  If so, do they all?
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > Chris,
> > The last reply was wrong, I got the result now, 6 lines of output, all are:
> > Modes   "800x600" "640x480"
> > 
> > 800x600 is too low on the 19" screen!:(
> > 
> > How to reset?
> 
> What you want to do here is either the easy way:
> 
> 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' and accept the defaults, for
> everything except monitor, where you select the correct values (check
> your monitor book or the web for refresh rates) and select the
> appropriate resolutions; and video card, where you select your video
> card or 'vesa'--but not 'vga'
> 
> or the hard way:
> 
> edit the file, and add the resolution you want in front of the other
> resolutions (eg: "1280x1024" "800x600" "640x480") and made sure that the
> driver for the video card is _not_ set to"vga" -- if it is, change it
> to "vesa"

Chris,
Thank you!  I finally got the resolution I want!:) Not clear for bunch of 
questions
in the configure, but anyway, I got what I need now -- much relax now. It was 
really
drive me crazy!

Thanks again. :))


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Re: Change screen resolution

2006-05-31 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 06:41:21PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> 
> --- Christopher Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 05:30:30PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> > > 
> > > I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen
> > resolution is
> > > so poorly set, which is actually different from the resolution I have set 
> > > during
> > the
> > > initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and 
> > > so
> > > uncomfortable!:((
> > > 
> > > The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high 
> > > resolution
> > before
> > > install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown
> > resolution!
> > > I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find place to 
> > > change the
> > > resoluion!
> > > 
> > > Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low 
> > > resolution
> > > just kills me.:((
> > 
> > sarge or etch/sid?  at any rate what does the output of 
> > 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Modes' (sub XF86Config[-4] for sarge) say?  
> > Any of those lines have the resolution you want?  If so, do they all?
> > 
> > -- 
> Chris,
> The last reply was wrong, I got the result now, 6 lines of output, all are:
> Modes   "800x600" "640x480"
> 
> 800x600 is too low on the 19" screen!:(
> 
> How to reset?

What you want to do here is either the easy way:

'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' and accept the defaults, for
everything except monitor, where you select the correct values (check
your monitor book or the web for refresh rates) and select the
appropriate resolutions; and video card, where you select your video
card or 'vesa'--but not 'vga'

or the hard way:

edit the file, and add the resolution you want in front of the other
resolutions (eg: "1280x1024" "800x600" "640x480") and made sure that the
driver for the video card is _not_ set to"vga" -- if it is, change it
to "vesa"

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Re: Change screen resolution

2006-05-31 Thread lmyho


--- Christopher Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 05:30:30PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> > 
> > I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen
> resolution is
> > so poorly set, which is actually different from the resolution I have set 
> > during
> the
> > initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and so
> > uncomfortable!:((
> > 
> > The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high resolution
> before
> > install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown
> resolution!
> > I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find place to 
> > change the
> > resoluion!
> > 
> > Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low 
> > resolution
> > just kills me.:((
> 
> sarge or etch/sid?  at any rate what does the output of 
> 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Modes' (sub XF86Config[-4] for sarge) say?  
> Any of those lines have the resolution you want?  If so, do they all?
> 
> -- 
Chris,
The last reply was wrong, I got the result now, 6 lines of output, all are:
Modes   "800x600" "640x480"

800x600 is too low on the 19" screen!:(

How to reset?


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Re: Change screen resolution

2006-05-31 Thread lmyho


--- Christopher Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 05:30:30PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> > 
> > I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen
> resolution is
> > so poorly set, which is actually different from the resolution I have set 
> > during
> the
> > initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and so
> > uncomfortable!:((
> > 
> > The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high resolution
> before
> > install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown
> resolution!
> > I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find place to 
> > change the
> > resoluion!
> > 
> > Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low 
> > resolution
> > just kills me.:((
> 
> sarge or etch/sid?  at any rate what does the output of 
> 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Modes' (sub XF86Config[-4] for sarge) say?  
> Any of those lines have the resolution you want?  If so, do they all?
> 
It's sarge, the newest release, net install.  But there is no xorg,conf or
XF86Config[-4] file!  what happen?:((

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Re: Change screen resolution

2006-05-31 Thread lmyho

--- Roby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> lmyho wrote:
> 
> > All,
> > 
> > I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen
> > resolution is so poorly set, which is actually different from the
> > resolution I have set during the
> > initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and
> > so uncomfortable!:((
> > 
> > The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high
> > resolution before
> > install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown
> > resolution! I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find
> > place to change the resoluion!
> > 
> > Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low
> > resolution just kills me.:((
> > 
> > All helps are highly appreciated.  Thanks!
> > 
> > Leo
>

> > 
> >From the K Menu, select Control Center -> Peripherals -> Display.

I have checked this, but the highest I can choose from there is what I have 
right
now, too low to bear.:((  
So, seems like the system has set the resolution as so low, but why??  and how 
can I
re-set it??  Do I have to reinstall -- hope not!!

> 
> Check the Apply settings on KDE startup box as well.
 
Where is KDE startup box?  I didn't find it.:(

Please help again.  Thank you!


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Re: Change screen resolution

2006-05-31 Thread Roby
lmyho wrote:

> All,
> 
> I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen
> resolution is so poorly set, which is actually different from the
> resolution I have set during the
> initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and
> so uncomfortable!:((
> 
> The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high
> resolution before
> install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown
> resolution! I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find
> place to change the resoluion!
> 
> Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low
> resolution just kills me.:((
> 
> All helps are highly appreciated.  Thanks!
> 
> Leo
> 
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>From the K Menu, select Control Center -> Peripherals -> Display.

Check the Apply settings on KDE startup box as well.


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Re: Change screen resolution

2006-05-31 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 05:30:30PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> 
> I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen 
> resolution is
> so poorly set, which is actually different from the resolution I have set 
> during the
> initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and so
> uncomfortable!:((
> 
> The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high resolution 
> before
> install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown 
> resolution!
> I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find place to change 
> the
> resoluion!
> 
> Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low 
> resolution
> just kills me.:((

sarge or etch/sid?  at any rate what does the output of 
'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Modes' (sub XF86Config[-4] for sarge) say?  
Any of those lines have the resolution you want?  If so, do they all?

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Change screen resolution

2006-05-31 Thread lmyho
All,

I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen 
resolution is
so poorly set, which is actually different from the resolution I have set 
during the
initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and so
uncomfortable!:((

The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high resolution 
before
install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown 
resolution!
I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find place to change the
resoluion!

Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low resolution
just kills me.:((

All helps are highly appreciated.  Thanks!

Leo

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