Re: linux + wan (frame relay)

2000-07-05 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
We used a Sangoma Wanpipe card in a linux box for about a year and were very 
happy
with it. We only stopped using it because we moved our office and opted for DSL 
in the
new space. This card can also be purchased with a built-in CSU/DSU which is 
what we
got so other than your linux box you only need to purchase this card which we 
paid I
think $800 US for. I would recommend this card to anyone. I would imagine that 
most
needs would be filled with this card although there are almost certainly things 
a
cisco can do that a linux box can't.

Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I would like to know if Linux (Debian/GNU) can work with wan
> protocols, especifically frame-relay?
> That's, if I buy a wan card, can I route with Linux? Should I
> expect some troubles? Some limitation? Can I "safely" substitute a Cisco
> router with a linux+wan card?
> Any kind of info is welcome; better if it's quick! :-))
> Thanks,
>
> []s
> Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
> IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
> http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
>http://www.revistalinux.com.br
>
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Re: linux + wan (frame relay)

2000-06-30 Thread Shaul Karl
> Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I would like to know if Linux (Debian/GNU) can work with wan
> > protocols, especifically frame-relay?
> 


An external unit might also be an option. It talks to Linux via 
serial/ethernet cable which is why no special support is required.


> Linux has drivers for the frame relay protocol, and drivers
> for "WAN" cards.  Stock Linux kernels do not have these drivers
> compiled, neither in the kernel, nor as modules.  One must
> recompile the kernel himself for WAN support.  It is a fairly
> simple matter to add that support: merely selecting in the
> X or curses configuration menus, typically, for it.
> 
> > That's, if I buy a wan card, can I route with Linux?
> 
> Certainly!
> 
> > Should I expect some troubles?
> 
> "Troubles" are pretty relative to expectations; expect
> some work.
> 
> > Some limitation?
> 
> Open source = no limitation.
> 
> > Can I "safely" substitute a Cisco router with a linux+wan card?
> 
> It really depends on what features you need.  I had a momentary
> reaction remembering an need of OSPF routing using Cisco equipment
> in a past life, but I recover knowing that OSPF has been
> recently added to Linux.
> 
> For simple IP routing, yes, you can.  For routing with filtering
> (firewalling), yes, you can.  For routing with  protocol,
> maybe:  we'd have to look more closely.
> 
> 
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Re: linux + wan (frame relay)

2000-06-30 Thread F. Fernández
Hi!

Two years ago I had the same doubt and evaluated some options. I finally
decided to go for a small cisco router for the following reasons:
- At that time the linux kernel didn't do traffic shaping
- WAN boards were expensive and did'n have direct support
  in my country (Portugal)
- Cisco hardware is probably more reliable than a PC with one board
  in it (I confirmed this since we still use Linux for the internal router
  and firewall all along with the cisco router for the Internet
  connection - PC's do fail a lot and the cisco router never failed)

What we lost with this decision was:
- Traffic logging and statistics
- Efficient line monitoring
- Free software upgrades

If you are serious about this connection, spend a little bit more
and buy a dedicated router or be prepared to switch PC's very fast when the
the CPU hangs, the RAM fails or motherboard burns.

Hope this helps!

Fernando



- Original Message -
From: Mario Olimpio de Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian User List 
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 4:04 PM
Subject: linux + wan (frame relay)


>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to know if Linux (Debian/GNU) can work with wan
> protocols, especifically frame-relay?
> That's, if I buy a wan card, can I route with Linux? Should I
> expect some troubles? Some limitation? Can I "safely" substitute a Cisco
> router with a linux+wan card?
> Any kind of info is welcome; better if it's quick! :-))
> Thanks,
>
> []s
> Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
> IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
> http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
>http://www.revistalinux.com.br
>
>
> --
> Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
/dev/null
>
>



Re: linux + wan (frame relay)

2000-06-30 Thread Pollywog
I used a WAN card (a csu/dsu) with Linux.  It was a card that was not
supported by the Linux kernel, so I had to obtain the driver source
for the card and compile the drivers.  The problem I had with that
card was that I could not compile the drivers with any kernel newer
than 2.0.29. The card was a RISCom n2csu/dsu and I used it
successfully with frame relay.

--
Andrew



Re: linux + wan (frame relay)

2000-06-30 Thread Bolan Meek
Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to know if Linux (Debian/GNU) can work with wan
> protocols, especifically frame-relay?

Linux has drivers for the frame relay protocol, and drivers
for "WAN" cards.  Stock Linux kernels do not have these drivers
compiled, neither in the kernel, nor as modules.  One must
recompile the kernel himself for WAN support.  It is a fairly
simple matter to add that support: merely selecting in the
X or curses configuration menus, typically, for it.

> That's, if I buy a wan card, can I route with Linux?

Certainly!

> Should I expect some troubles?

"Troubles" are pretty relative to expectations; expect
some work.

> Some limitation?

Open source = no limitation.

> Can I "safely" substitute a Cisco router with a linux+wan card?

It really depends on what features you need.  I had a momentary
reaction remembering an need of OSPF routing using Cisco equipment
in a past life, but I recover knowing that OSPF has been
recently added to Linux.

For simple IP routing, yes, you can.  For routing with filtering
(firewalling), yes, you can.  For routing with  protocol,
maybe:  we'd have to look more closely.