Re: Getting xfree86 4.02 onto an isolated laptop

2001-09-13 Thread Dominique Dumont
David A. Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have received a hand-me-down laptop - a Thinkpad 365XD with TFT display.
 I've got potato on it, but 3.3.6 doesn't work for my display (unless you
 count VGA16 yuck!).  However, I just found a web site that says that 4.02
 works well on the exact model I have.
 
 Here's my problem.  I've only ever used the debian CDs and stable before.
 I've read how to get unstable stuff, but that only works well if you have a
 reasonable pipe to the net.  This thing has a slow modem 28.8 and I don't
 have it working under Linux yet anyway.
 
 What's going to be the easiest way to get xfree 4.02 onto this laptop?  Be
 as explicit as you are able, please.  I'm still learning.
 

If you can bring your laptop near a well connected linux computer, you
can set up a link over the parrallel interface with plip.

You'll get 40kB/s transfer rate.

HTH

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Getting xfree86 4.02 onto an isolated laptop

2001-09-12 Thread David A. Rogers
I have received a hand-me-down laptop - a Thinkpad 365XD with TFT display.
I've got potato on it, but 3.3.6 doesn't work for my display (unless you
count VGA16 yuck!).  However, I just found a web site that says that 4.02
works well on the exact model I have.

Here's my problem.  I've only ever used the debian CDs and stable before.
I've read how to get unstable stuff, but that only works well if you have a
reasonable pipe to the net.  This thing has a slow modem 28.8 and I don't
have it working under Linux yet anyway.

What's going to be the easiest way to get xfree 4.02 onto this laptop?  Be
as explicit as you are able, please.  I'm still learning.

dar



Re: Getting xfree86 4.02 onto an isolated laptop

2001-09-12 Thread Timeboy

On Wednesday Sep 12 16:44 David A. Rogers wrote:

 ** I have received a hand-me-down laptop - a Thinkpad 365XD with TFT display.
 ** I've got potato on it, but 3.3.6 doesn't work for my display (unless you
 ** count VGA16 yuck!).  However, I just found a web site that says that 4.02
 ** works well on the exact model I have.
 ** 
 ** Here's my problem.  I've only ever used the debian CDs and stable before.
 ** I've read how to get unstable stuff, but that only works well if you have a
 ** reasonable pipe to the net.  This thing has a slow modem 28.8 and I don't
 ** have it working under Linux yet anyway.
 ** 
 ** What's going to be the easiest way to get xfree 4.02 onto this laptop?  Be
 ** as explicit as you are able, please.  I'm still learning.

Much Linux magazines includes a CD-Rom. You could look by some newsdealers
if there is a magazine with a CD that includes the newest .deb files of
XFree86. Sorry! But i can't give you a suggestion which magazine at this
time has a CD with XFree86 for Debian.

Timo

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 :-)



Re: Getting xfree86 4.02 onto an isolated laptop

2001-09-12 Thread Alan Shutko
David A. Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What's going to be the easiest way to get xfree 4.02 onto this laptop?  

A friend with a fast pipe and a cd burner?

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Re: Getting xfree86 4.02 onto an isolated laptop

2001-09-12 Thread David A. Rogers
I have a fast (sort of) pipe at work, a cd burner at home and a scsi drive
to carry stuff back and forth.  So what do I do?

dar

On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 01:37:48PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote:
 David A. Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  What's going to be the easiest way to get xfree 4.02 onto this laptop?  
 
 A friend with a fast pipe and a cd burner?
 
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Re: Getting xfree86 4.02 onto an isolated laptop

2001-09-12 Thread Faheem Mitha


On 12 Sep 2001, David A. Rogers wrote:

 I have received a hand-me-down laptop - a Thinkpad 365XD with TFT display.
 I've got potato on it, but 3.3.6 doesn't work for my display (unless you
 count VGA16 yuck!).  However, I just found a web site that says that 4.02
 works well on the exact model I have.
 
 Here's my problem.  I've only ever used the debian CDs and stable before.
 I've read how to get unstable stuff, but that only works well if you have a
 reasonable pipe to the net.  This thing has a slow modem 28.8 and I don't
 have it working under Linux yet anyway.
 
 What's going to be the easiest way to get xfree 4.02 onto this laptop?  Be
 as explicit as you are able, please.  I'm still learning.

Do you have access somewhere else to a cd burner? I believe there is a cd
image floating around of extra debs for potato, and I think this includes
recent versions of xfree. See recent posts on debianplanet.org.

But really, if I were you I'd give high priority to getting your modem
working. I think it would be perfectly possible to download xfree even
over a 28.8. Apt and other debian tools are quite intelligent in that they
know if you have done part of a download and can pick up where they left
off if interrupted. So you could do this in several stages. A more
important question is, how expensive is your dialup access? Here in the US
it is relatively cheap, but in Germany I think it will be more expensive.
so maybe a CD image would be better because of that.

Contact me if you think I can be of further help.

  Sincerely, faheem Mitha.



XFree86 4.02

2001-02-20 Thread John Beining
Currently I can't get XFree86 4.02 up and running, I am using sid.
Here is the error message Iget: 

X: cannoy stat /etc/X11/X

What is going wrong here?





Re: XFree86 4.02

2001-02-20 Thread David Purton
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, John Beining wrote:

 Currently I can't get XFree86 4.02 up and running, I am using sid.
 Here is the error message Iget: 
 
 X: cannoy stat /etc/X11/X
 
 What is going wrong here?
 

This could be because /etc/X11/X doesn't exist.  It seems that by
default X4 lokks for the server in this spot.

Try symlinking /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 to /etc/X11/X

if /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 isn't there then you need to install the
actual X server (this didn't happen automatically for me when I
upgrade) so apt-get install xserver-xfree86

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Re: XFree86 4.02 eating CPU

2001-01-31 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 30 Jan 2001, Reine Johansson wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Just upgraded to XFree86 4.02 (with a little trouble) on my woody-box (Linux
 2.4.1).
 
 After using it a while I noticed that while playing a mp3 and scrolling the
 Netscape-window the sound from the mp3 got distorted. I thought this was very
 strange cause I've never experienced anything like this on this machine (Dual
 Celeron 533).
 
 Then I ran top a saw that the process X had a nicevalue of -10. The
 processes state was marked as S (which is High Priority Process). I asked a
 friend who is also using XFree86 4.02 and he had a nice-value of 0.
 
 Have anyone experienced the same. Any suggestions?
 
 TIA!
 
 /Reine

Top shows the same thing on my machine, but this doesn't seem to affect
playing sound.

Anthony

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XFree86 4.02 eating CPU

2001-01-30 Thread Reine Johansson
Hi!

Just upgraded to XFree86 4.02 (with a little trouble) on my woody-box (Linux
2.4.1).

After using it a while I noticed that while playing a mp3 and scrolling the
Netscape-window the sound from the mp3 got distorted. I thought this was very
strange cause I've never experienced anything like this on this machine (Dual
Celeron 533).

Then I ran top a saw that the process X had a nicevalue of -10. The
processes state was marked as S (which is High Priority Process). I asked a
friend who is also using XFree86 4.02 and he had a nice-value of 0.

Have anyone experienced the same. Any suggestions?

TIA!

/Reine



Re: XFree86 4.02 eating CPU

2001-01-30 Thread RAccess
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Reine Johansson wrote:

 Hi!

 Just upgraded to XFree86 4.02 (with a little trouble) on my woody-box (Linux
 2.4.1).

 After using it a while I noticed that while playing a mp3 and scrolling the
 Netscape-window the sound from the mp3 got distorted. I thought this was very
 strange cause I've never experienced anything like this on this machine (Dual
 Celeron 533).

 Then I ran top a saw that the process X had a nicevalue of -10. The
 processes state was marked as S (which is High Priority Process). I asked a
 friend who is also using XFree86 4.02 and he had a nice-value of 0.

 Have anyone experienced the same. Any suggestions?

 TIA!

 /Reine


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I thought your problem was interesting because I had not noticed any
slowdowns with mp3 or netscape. In fact, I run gkrellm and I keep a close
watch @ the numbers. After reading your mail, I openned top to see for
myself what you are talking about and noticed that X was NI=0. But in a
matter of seconds (while top was running) the value became -10!

I also upgraded X, just few days ago. (woody)


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XFree86-4.02, a laptop and an external monitor

2001-01-26 Thread Jordi Clement
Hi all, 

I've a problem while connecting an external monitor to my laptop. I had a 
configuration working for XFree86 3.3.6 that allowed me to use my laptop at a 
1024x768 resolution. If I connected an external monitor to it, and with the 
LDC-display disabled, X worked with a 1280x1024 resolution on the external 
monitor. 

I see in the XFree86.x.log that both my LCD and external display are detected 
(the external display gets detected first),  but I can't get X using my 
external display at 1280x1024. I'm running XFree86 4.02 (ATI 64 driver) from 
unstable. Any ideas?

-- Jordi



Xfree86 4.02?

2001-01-14 Thread William Leese
Hello all,

does anyone know where i can apt-get Xfree 4.02? I tried installing 4.01 
however i ended up with a broken X, i believe that was due to the lack of an 
X_server but i'm not certain. 

Has anyone has previously installed 4.01 (or preferably 4.02) succesfully 
that can tell me how to do the same?

William Leese



Re: Xfree86 4.02?

2001-01-14 Thread Romain Lerallut

The debs are in debian/pool: you can get them by adding unstable to your
apt sources list (apt-setup will do it fine for you).

I did it by hand, because I didn't want to change my apt settings,
the files I got are:

libfreetype6_2.0.1-1.debxserver-common_4.0.2-1_i386.deb
xbase-clients_4.0.2-1_i386.deb  xserver-xfree86_4.0.2-1_i386.deb
xfree86-common_4.0.2-1_all.deb  xterm_4.0.2-1_i386.deb
xfs_4.0.2-1_i386.debxutils_4.0.2-1_i386.deb
xlibs_4.0.2-1_i386.deb  xvfb_4.0.2-1_i386.deb

I don't think that _all_ are necessary and I guess that you could add
some more

After you've dpkg-ed everything (or apt-ed),
 run xf86cfg or XF86Setup. They will probe and/or ask for your hardware
and write the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file.


End of Plug, start of Play:
I had some problems with that but it was because of the bloody nv/nvidia
drivers that were rotten.

I also had a problem that X4 didn't flush X3 correctly, so that startx
was calling X3.3.6. Fixed it by symlinking /usr/X11R6/bin/X to
/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86.
It feels a bit dirty though. 

Anyway in case of problem, take a peek at /var/log/XFree86.?.log


HTH
Romain

William Leese wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 does anyone know where i can apt-get Xfree 4.02? I tried installing 4.01
 however i ended up with a broken X, i believe that was due to the lack of an
 X_server but i'm not certain.
 
 Has anyone has previously installed 4.01 (or preferably 4.02) succesfully
 that can tell me how to do the same?
 
 William Leese
 
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