Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/10/2010 04:38 PM, Tyler MacDonald wrote: Lisi wrote: Le disque a crashé. The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat est en train de restaurer ... Christian Marillat is being restored ... No - Christian Marillat is not "being restored" (Christian Marillat est en train "d'être restauré"), he is doing the restoring. Somebody should restore Christian with a nice cold beer after all this work! :-) Beer? I don't think that's allowed in France. But warm beer, yes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hututc$c4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
Lisi wrote: On Thursday 10 June 2010 19:22:47 Jimmy Johnson wrote: Gerard Robin wrote: The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat is being restored ... see here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2010/06/msg00105.html Translated: "Hello, Le disque a crashé. The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat est en train de restaurer ... Christian Marillat is being restored ... No - Christian Marillat is not "being restored" (Christian Marillat est en train "d'être restauré"), he is doing the restoring. Darn ;-) I for a moment thought that I might be restored too... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/huturn$c4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
John Hasler wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. writes: In some ways D-M is the replacement for the non-us section of yore. No it isn't. Non-us was for crypto software that could not[1] be distributed from within the USA to people outside the USA without an export license. Such software could be distributed freely within the USA and also imported into the USA. This was a unique situation, quite different from the usual one of some software being undistributable within a country. Debian-multimedia is primarily for patent encumbered stuff where the patents are believed to be actively enforced. There has been talk from time to time of a non-* network of repositories as the USA is far from the only country where distribution of some Free Software is restricted due to legal considerations. [1]There is considerable doubt about the legality of these regulations, at least with respect to source code (but they're gone so it's moot). Good explanation John, thanks. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/hutuno$c4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
There was the google cache to find mirrors during downtime. And... and some files weren't deleted: http://poisonbit.wordpress.com/2010/06/10/finding-nemo/ :-D 2010/6/11 Liam O'Toole : > On 2010-06-11, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 06/10/2010 04:38 PM, Tyler MacDonald wrote: >>> Lisi wrote: > Le disque a crashé. The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat est en > train de restaurer ... Christian Marillat is being restored ... No - Christian Marillat is not "being restored" (Christian Marillat est en train "d'être restauré"), he is doing the restoring. >>> >>> Somebody should restore Christian with a nice cold beer after all this >>> work! :-) >>> >> >> Beer? I don't think that's allowed in France. > > Sure it is. It's just that no one can afford it :-)` > > -- > Liam O'Toole > Cork, Ireland > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrni13ve1.503.liam.p.oto...@dipsy.selfip.org > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikyv2tv2rjekgvvpjcqxh_pq_axjw_koslrj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On 2010-06-11, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 06/10/2010 04:38 PM, Tyler MacDonald wrote: >> Lisi wrote: Le disque a crashé. The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat est en train de restaurer ... Christian Marillat is being restored ... >>> No - Christian Marillat is not "being restored" (Christian Marillat est en >>> train "d'être restauré"), he is doing the restoring. >> >>Somebody should restore Christian with a nice cold beer after all this >> work! :-) >> > > Beer? I don't think that's allowed in France. Sure it is. It's just that no one can afford it :-)` -- Liam O'Toole Cork, Ireland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrni13ve1.503.liam.p.oto...@dipsy.selfip.org
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On 06/10/2010 04:38 PM, Tyler MacDonald wrote: Lisi wrote: Le disque a crashé. The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat est en train de restaurer ... Christian Marillat is being restored ... No - Christian Marillat is not "being restored" (Christian Marillat est en train "d'être restauré"), he is doing the restoring. Somebody should restore Christian with a nice cold beer after all this work! :-) Beer? I don't think that's allowed in France. -- "There is usually only a limited amount of damage that can be done by dull or stupid people. For creating a truly monumental disaster, you need people with high IQs." Thomas Sowell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c119333.2000...@cox.net
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
Lisi wrote: On Thursday 10 June 2010 19:22:47 Jimmy Johnson wrote: Gerard Robin wrote: The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat is being restored ... see here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2010/06/msg00105.html Translated: "Hello, Le disque a crashé. The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat est en train de restaurer ... Christian Marillat is being restored ... No - Christian Marillat is not "being restored" (Christian Marillat est en train "d'être restauré"), he is doing the restoring. Lisi I still understand the message, you're just being picky. :-P -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Squeeze at sda9 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1184c7.7060...@gmail.com
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
Lisi wrote: > > Le disque a crashé. The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat est en > > train de restaurer ... Christian Marillat is being restored ... > No - Christian Marillat is not "being restored" (Christian Marillat est en > train "d'être restauré"), he is doing the restoring. Somebody should restore Christian with a nice cold beer after all this work! :-) - Tyler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100610213826.gi13...@yi.org
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On Thursday 10 June 2010 19:22:47 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Gerard Robin wrote: > > The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat is being restored ... > > > > see here: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2010/06/msg00105.html > > Translated: > > "Hello, > > Le disque a crashé. The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat est en > train de restaurer ... Christian Marillat is being restored ... No - Christian Marillat is not "being restored" (Christian Marillat est en train "d'être restauré"), he is doing the restoring. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006102235.49918.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 08:48:16PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-06-10 18:11 +0200, Gerard Robin wrote: > > > The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat is being restored ... > > Hopefully there is a good backup of him! Just as Linus Torvalds said - "Only wimps use tape backup: real men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it". d-m had (and still have) a lot of mirrors all over the world, so it's not the problem to bring all the stuff back. Actually, debian-multimedia.org is *already* back and working just normally. Hooray! -- Regards, Alexander Batischev 1024D/69093C81 F870 A381 B5F5 D2A1 1B35 4D63 A1A7 1C77 6909 3C81 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On 2010-06-10 18:11 +0200, Gerard Robin wrote: > The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat is being restored ... Hopefully there is a good backup of him! Sven, who always enjoys automatic translations. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87typavi4v@turtle.gmx.de
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
Gerard Robin wrote: The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat is being restored ... see here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2010/06/msg00105.html Translated: "Hello, Le disque a crashé. The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat est en train de restaurer ... Christian Marillat is being restored ... A+ A + Gaëtan Gaetan" -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Squeeze at sda9 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c112d77.8040...@gmail.com
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
The drive has crashed. Christian Marillat is being restored ... see here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2010/06/msg00105.html -- Gérard signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:12:51 +0200 Ingo Kasten wrote: Hello Ingo, > As far as I see only the packages.gz files are missing in the > repository,e.g. > > http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/packages.gz Currently, there seems to be only directories, no files at all. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Life goes quick and it goes without warning Bombsite Boy - The Adverts signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:21:57 +0200 Sven Joachim wrote: Hello Sven, > Nonsense. Okay, I got it wrong, but why be so aggressive about it? -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" I'm not here for your entertainment U & Ur Hand - P!nk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. writes: > In some ways D-M is the replacement for the non-us section of yore. No it isn't. Non-us was for crypto software that could not[1] be distributed from within the USA to people outside the USA without an export license. Such software could be distributed freely within the USA and also imported into the USA. This was a unique situation, quite different from the usual one of some software being undistributable within a country. Debian-multimedia is primarily for patent encumbered stuff where the patents are believed to be actively enforced. There has been talk from time to time of a non-* network of repositories as the USA is far from the only country where distribution of some Free Software is restricted due to legal considerations. [1]There is considerable doubt about the legality of these regulations, at least with respect to source code (but they're gone so it's moot). -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87k4q74wik@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
Johannes Rohr schrieb: Dear all, does anyone know, what has happened to debian-multimedia.org? The web page is gone and the repository is empty. Has Christian Marillat given up? Thanks Johannes As far as I see only the packages.gz files are missing in the repository,e.g. > http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/packages.gz Ingo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c1003d3$0$6778$9b4e6...@newsspool3.arcor-online.net
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On Wednesday 09 June 2010 16:21:57 Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-06-09 23:00 +0200, Brad Rogers wrote: > > None of the packages at D-M can be included in the regular Debian repos > > because of licensing issues that aren't compatible with the Debian > > DFSG. > > Nonsense. The packages at debian-multimedia are patent-encumbered or > otherwise legally problematic in many countries, and _that_ is the > reason why Debian does not (and cannot) distribute them. These legal > problems are orthogonal to the DFSG. In fact, D-M recently moved some packages to a non-free section because they did not comply with the DFSG, in particular because they were lacking source code. libdvdcss has is Free Software, but Debian still chooses not to risk the separate legal issues that might arise from distributing it. In some ways D-M is the replacement for the non-us section of yore. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On 2010-06-09 23:00 +0200, Brad Rogers wrote: > None of the packages at D-M can be included in the regular Debian repos > because of licensing issues that aren't compatible with the Debian > DFSG. Nonsense. The packages at debian-multimedia are patent-encumbered or otherwise legally problematic in many countries, and _that_ is the reason why Debian does not (and cannot) distribute them. These legal problems are orthogonal to the DFSG. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/874ohboqa2@turtle.gmx.de
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 15:31:51 -0500 Arthur Machlas wrote: Hello Arthur, > It's always struck me as a bit crazy that such an integral part of the > debian experience is provided by a one (or two?) ma(e)n (or woma(e)n) None of the packages at D-M can be included in the regular Debian repos because of licensing issues that aren't compatible with the Debian DFSG. You probably already knew that, though. Any way, although Christian is the prime mover, there are others involved. Without them, there'd be fewer mirror sites, I'm sure. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" He signed up for just three years, it seemed a small amount Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > If someone needs a work-around, a friend on IRC found that this German > mirror is still up: http://debian-multimedia.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/ > It's always struck me as a bit crazy that such an integral part of the debian experience is provided by a one (or two?) ma(e)n (or woma(e)n) crew. I'm talking to you w32codecs and libdvdcss. Yeah.. you know what you did (do). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilr1g8dn747syeastxdc-wx3piojyhporq5e...@mail.gmail.com
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 If someone needs a work-around, a friend on IRC found that this German mirror is still up: http://debian-multimedia.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMD/goAAoJEKj/C3qNthmTuj0QAMaxuoVPrHnVEyxR/ZkWXSVR nR6oRAQ3mJDn78j1pZIBAQ0OeVrut6iKnxaZtsLZrKiU2yzGUtr8v4GjcnveBg+3 ZyYJzMTK9taG5890XsEDHAGG42Sbqmpgse4MN3A+XKAVZsJTYVv7AlIHRzP41mPa We9OreLm6EK1hhoFnD5hxyoYVZzRgcdS6IN8R8I/R0pAAgO4QWtf1VvSD5I78LlG qozAUIkyZroL9jgbgvC8db86bHsrLrarXVBXRQjw7eXunkV71Sdk2RunHP4fdn2D ImIusjyMtjCaiRunQkPlqYBR0y4TBuK+aqgz2LDSkhmf5sJwHXrNeRxGVpN+VUsf DUVedzmDkBp0eHQibLn7/h5BAQvuSp3J3muM07fikLCi9Bwg9tSNLRjpLx5xL+17 TDOdsUzx/uTGutktqgqj6KThSX0Fq/bKhpZXJC1wCLlylhC4sg4Pylga55sPxo44 6PFzWzqOzrBfu+SrSPHTWnkzvXKJuwLaJaCrY7vLLxrh3H7/Rf101EOaq03MEJw3 Ad0LIbaFzyhTMSa89gbtEDLRC157u69iJC7lpf1dKfN5ZqQ5AhNKcWGK+LqQdXIB OpvHyIqkjUQ4AkpGnUlDhzgh8CpNJdDE/mE9BSQnZvVB8j5/KgV1lIDbZUklGinx V6lYyKq6PNT0En/EYQB6 =Gzw8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c0ff829.9010...@gmail.com
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
Brad Rogers wrote: > Hello Jordan, > > > Hopefully the "temporary error" was not caused by something like find . > > - -type f -delete as it appears... > > Given what I've just seen there, that's a possibility. :-) When I was trying to upgrade my MythTV boxes earlier today, I was getting a "connection refused", for over half an hour... so the server was up, apache was down... - Tyler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2010060920.gc31...@yi.org
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:12:33 -0400 Jordan Metzmeier wrote: Hello Jordan, > Hopefully the "temporary error" was not caused by something like find . > - -type f -delete as it appears... Given what I've just seen there, that's a possibility. :-) -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" You're only 29 got a lot to learn Seventeen - Sex Pistols signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:33:02 +0200 Johannes Rohr wrote: Hello Johannes, > does anyone know, what has happened to debian-multimedia.org? The web Just been along to see if it's there now. Currently, a directory listing is all I get with timestamps dated today. Looks as though something fatal happened and the site is being rebuilt. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" This disease is catching Into The Valley - Skids signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/09/2010 04:10 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:33:02 +0200 > Johannes Rohr wrote: > > Hello Johannes, > >> does anyone know, what has happened to debian-multimedia.org? The web >> page is gone and the repository is empty. Has Christian Marillat given >> up? > > It was there yesterday. In fact, it must have been there earlier today > as an upgrade didn't complain about D-M being unavailable. > > Suspect a temporary error. Somewhere > Hopefully the "temporary error" was not caused by something like find . - -type f -delete as it appears... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMD/WxAAoJEKj/C3qNthmTnmUP/02KMeQDOZLIY5g7sHbkvEIn xXr8pEFcDQ4Bo5lsvvQo6okkHQ6UCuFLXJcJrbmBNgxB65rAFKDhfPojysDBonJm vnx1SA4NTQod/cY4xeoFRAJysXa7vHWOfyFf55QHevd2Fe1TdMrYaMMvjaE4tb01 yVTRAuIqhdw0zhZ5m1EzqLTVP9mmgN2qR5u5EFQBwHXNTSh0lD/DG2KfVjRiNa0E gw+6EmpIxRWiJV2vKGkdw/a9M4GELx6uwAvpRDxo17sPomghkHIEb+RaMGVjCUyw qQGtnoCcYtn/wBqbmS7H8I7wyZ5R3HLI7+WhLjd34uPHEYAGt1tP57xZwzPmviYF wm1keSc1G1OTpc/0mL7V5S+a7PIIGX5UHtHNBzN7LEGMAk48MUtKZaRmFIW/Bny+ /uEVMS2F/6CfA1adRUspt01B/NS0947bZm2hP+U6yiQOhsIb3Dl3QkcLP0UMzcLM 4EuBxAWTBX8VG7Z1ZvLmQtjzIlejLDow0w84EbXk2+6OXc6ivyDiV5XYddRm/lrX 5B5A3oA0/Nf+fDJQ4w4ZUsmfiffEKiLYR9n6ouuhpw0L6C2Nmfs2d3ElbCBa0CW2 M2vHHJyds4RQbCIfoaHStYlt3ZB9bFPOp+vlQpB1C/2yznOUJAiyrNamhAhVSpHC 2Xss+bTGxKNpnXcst4JE =NKz7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c0ff5b1.8000...@gmail.com
Re: debian-multimedia.org gone?
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:33:02 +0200 Johannes Rohr wrote: Hello Johannes, > does anyone know, what has happened to debian-multimedia.org? The web > page is gone and the repository is empty. Has Christian Marillat given > up? It was there yesterday. In fact, it must have been there earlier today as an upgrade didn't complain about D-M being unavailable. Suspect a temporary error. Somewhere -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Every single one of us Devil Inside - INXS signature.asc Description: PGP signature
debian-multimedia.org gone?
Dear all, does anyone know, what has happened to debian-multimedia.org? The web page is gone and the repository is empty. Has Christian Marillat given up? Thanks Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87iq5s9f2p@lenny.babel