Re: what is bf2.4, actually?
#include hallo.h * Colin Watson [Thu, Jul 03 2003, 02:44:18PM]: When you see bf2.4 in a kernel package's version number, it indicates the fairly stripped-down kernel that's installed by default when you Sorry, stripped-down is just wrong wording here. It has more drivers that the actuall 2.2.x-vanilla kernel for Potato. The only things not available in bf2.4 are some exotic devices and gamer hardware, and many people used it as before the ptrace exploit came to daylight. MfG, Eduard. -- Fette-Sau und warum ist der nicht so schön bunt wie bei Suse? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is bf2.4, actually?
On Thursday 03 July 2003 15:16, Duane Winner wrote: Could somebody please breifly explain to me what the bf2.4 variant on the 2.4.18 kernel in Woody is all about? The bf2.4 is a 2.4 kernel that's built for compatibility so it can be used on install- and rescue-disks on a wide variety of systems. It will run pretty well, but you're missing some optimizations. -- Got Backup? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is bf2.4, actually?
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 09:45, Nicos Gollan wrote: On Thursday 03 July 2003 15:16, Duane Winner wrote: Could somebody please breifly explain to me what the bf2.4 variant on the 2.4.18 kernel in Woody is all about? The bf2.4 is a 2.4 kernel that's built for compatibility so it can be used on install- and rescue-disks on a wide variety of systems. It will run pretty well, but you're missing some optimizations. Sorry to be a pest, but what optimizations am I missing? What would be the ideal kernel to be running on production servers? I'm guessing that I should be compiling my own kernel in these instances. But until I reach that point (compiling kernel), is there a better stable kernel I might want to install? And when I do compile, what's the best/latest/stable kernel source I should grab? Thanks again. -- Got Backup? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: what is bf2.4, actually?
On Thursday 03 July 2003 16:02, Duane Winner wrote: Sorry to be a pest, but what optimizations am I missing? Well, some processors can do stuff others can't. Basically, for Intel architectures, the smallest common set is the i386. This does not use any improvements made to the command set since then. I don't know actual examples, but there are possibilities to optimize branching and stuff. What would be the ideal kernel to be running on production servers? I'm guessing that I should be compiling my own kernel in these instances. But until I reach that point (compiling kernel), is there a better stable kernel I might want to install? Have a look at the different kernel-image packages. There should be one matching your CPU. And when I do compile, what's the best/latest/stable kernel source I should grab? Latest stable is 2.4.21. If you want to use it in a production server, I'd recommend reading through changelogs and bug reports to find out what's best for you. -- Got Backup? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is bf2.4, actually?
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:16:03AM -0400, Duane Winner wrote: I'm relatively new to Debian, and have had pretty good success with it so far, but am trying to become more knowledgable about it. Could somebody please breifly explain to me what the bf2.4 variant on the 2.4.18 kernel in Woody is all about? bf stands for boot floppies. It is the kernel used for the installer. Frank Why is it called bf2.4? What makes it different from a standard 2.4.18? I'm running it on all my boxes running Debian, and I have no complaints, but I'm running based on instructions from other people, so while I had good instructions to get up and running, I'm missing some of the finer points. I looked all over the web for docs that explain this so-called bf variant, but can't find anything. Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge. -DW -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is bf2.4, actually?
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:16:03AM -0400, Duane Winner wrote: I'm relatively new to Debian, and have had pretty good success with it so far, but am trying to become more knowledgable about it. Could somebody please breifly explain to me what the bf2.4 variant on the 2.4.18 kernel in Woody is all about? Why is it called bf2.4? What makes it different from a standard 2.4.18? The bf stands for boot-floppies, which is the name of the installation system for woody and earlier. It doesn't necessarily involve floppy disks, despite the name. bf2.4 is the name of the installation flavour that installs the system with a 2.4 kernel right from the start. (This wasn't made the default because 2.4 wasn't sufficiently stable at the time when the choice of woody's default kernel needed to be made, way back when.) When you see bf2.4 in a kernel package's version number, it indicates the fairly stripped-down kernel that's installed by default when you install the bf2.4 flavour. You can replace it with a more normal kernel like kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 and variants if you like. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is bf2.4, actually?
#include hallo.h Could somebody please breifly explain to me what the bf2.4 variant on the 2.4.18 kernel in Woody is all about? Not somebody, something. apt-cache show kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 Why is it called bf2.4? Some people claimed it to be Big Fscking, but it means just Boot Floppy variant of 2.4.x. It must became a short string which is simply recognized as boot-floppies related and 2.4.something related installation flavor. I looked all over the web for docs that explain this so-called bf variant, but can't find anything. What do you expect? A great story about my mood when I invented this kernel name? -- weasel waldi: ja. Alfie weasel: Nein. Alfie Macht es *nicht*. weasel macht es. Alfie Nein. weasel doch. Alfie Oh. Alfie Momenterl. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is bf2.4, actually?
Duane Winner wrote: But until I reach that point (compiling kernel), is there a better stable kernel I might want to install? There are the kernel-image-* packages for each of the architectures supported. I think there are images in sid for the 2.4.21 kernel. They provide a binary pre-compiled kernel. Regards, -- // /* */ /* Víctor Zabalza */ /* */ /* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] */ /* */ /* GNU/Linux Debian Sarge - Kernel v2.4.20 */ /* */ // NO a la guerra!! NO en el nostre nom, NO amb el nostre silenci!! Fortune del dia: 1 1 was a race-horse, 2 2 was 1 2. When 1 1 1 1 race, 2 2 1 1 2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
