RE: IRC and Slack

[Giles Sirett]

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> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Turner [mailto:stephen.tur...@citrix.com]
> Sent: 06 July 2015 08:25
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: IRC and Slack
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Burwell [mailto:john.burw...@shapeblue.com]
> Sent: 04 July 2015 15:28
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: IRC and Slack
>
> > For me, wile Slack is a nice experience, it’s barrier of entry is much 
> > higher —
> discouraging new participants.
> > While developer communication is important, community growth is vital.
> > Freenode is the de facto standard for open source chat with lowest possible
> barrier of entry.
>
>
> I disagree with this. For someone who's never used either, Slack has a much
> lower barrier of entry, IMO.

I tend to agree with Stephen. With IRC, I think there is an assumption that 
people know what it is and how to use it.

If I had to choose, I would be +1 to Slack from my own personal experience of 
both

I am a strong -1 on maintaining multiple formats for this




> --
> Stephen Turner
>
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Dublin conference

[Giles Sirett]

All

ACT NOW: submit a talk for CCC

We've had a very poor response to the CFP for CCC Dublin on 8-9 October. I 
understand that there has been a lot of CFT emails flying around because of the 
change of conference format this year. However, we want the Dublin event to be 
the "goto" event for this community this year

Without your input as speakers, we do not have an agenda and without an agenda 
we cannot get sponsors to pay for the event

I know the event seems a long way off, but if anybody on this list is thinking 
of attending, please consider submitting a speaking proposal.

The CFP formally closes *tomorrow* , but likely we will hold it open for a few 
days yet


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CCCEU15 - call for volunteers

[Giles Sirett]

Excuse the cross -posting

On 8-9 October, we will be having a 2 day CloudStack Collab conference in 
Dublin.
As this will be the only Collab conference this year, I do hope that as many of 
you as possible will attend (although don't forget the upcoming CloudStackDays 
in Tokyo and Seattle)

www.cloudstackcollab.org

I have a number of appeals for help with this event.


1.   Register
please try and get to the event. The more of this community can be there, the 
better the event will be. Encourage your friends and colleagues to attend


2.   Submit your talks
We rely on submitted content to be able to put together the agenda. Last year 
in Budapest we had a fantastic agenda - because people submitted talks.  Please 
consider submitting a talk on whatever you fancy (as long as its kinda 
Cloudstack related :)).
We really need to get an agenda published ASAP (it helps drive the sponsors), 
so please,please get some talks submitted ASAP


3.   Reviewing papers
I have also been coerced into coordinating the submissions. So, I'm also 
looking for some volunteers to help review papers and choose which to accept.


4.   Sponsorship
Like any conference, we rely on sponsors to be able to put on a great event.
I know most people on these lists wont directly hold sponsorship budgets, but 
it would be great if you're able to see if your organisation may be prepared to 
sponsor.

Theres more info on the website, or put your people in touch with Kevlin Husser 
kev...@linuxfoundation.org  - he's the guy 
coordinating the sponsorship

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RE: [ANNOUNCE] New committer: Remi Bergsma

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Congrats Remi - well deserved

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> -Original Message-
> From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com]
> Sent: 01 May 2015 08:43
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] New committer: Remi Bergsma
>
> Congrats Remi, welcome to the team !
>
> -abhi
>
> > On 01-May-2015, at 12:37 pm, sebgoa  wrote:
> >
> > Well done,
> >
> >
> > On May 1, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Rajani Karuturi  wrote:
> >
> >> congratulations Remi :)
> >>
> >> ~Rajani
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Daan Hoogland
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache CloudStack has
> >>> asked Remi Bergsma to become a committer and we are pleased to
> >>> announce that he has accepted.
> >>>
> >>> Remi has reported and helped in investigating and solving many bugs.
> >>> He has given talks on managing clouds on several occasions.
> >>>
> >>> Being a committer allows many contributors to contribute more
> >>> autonomously. For developers, it makes it easier to submit changes
> >>> and eliminates the need to have contributions reviewed via the patch
> >>> submission process. Whether contributions are development-related or
> >>> otherwise, it is a recognition of a contributor's participation in
> >>> the project and commitment to the project and the Apache Way.
> >>>
> >>> Please join me in congratulating Remi
> >>>
> >>> --Daan Hoogland
> >>> on behalf of the CloudStack PMC
> >>>
> >
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RE: [WWW] CloudStack days Dublin event is 404

[Giles Sirett]

http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/cloudstack-collaboration-conference-europe

or
www.cloudstackcollab.org


interested to know where you got that original link you posted (not saying you 
*shouldn't* have it, but if its listed somewhere, we'll need to get it updated)




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> -Original Message-
> From: Jan-Arve Nygård [mailto:jan.arve.nyg...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 29 April 2015 12:20
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [WWW] CloudStack days Dublin event is 404
>
> 2015-04-29 13:02 GMT+02:00 sebgoa :
>
> >
> > On Apr 29, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Jan-Arve Nygård
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I tried submitting a path through the Apache CMS system but it don't
> > > like like the mail with the diff hits the dev-list.
> >
> > Can you try a pull request to:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/tree/gh-pages
>
>
> Done
>
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 2015-04-29 0:17 GMT+02:00 Jan-Arve Nygård
> :
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Not sure who the correct recipient would be so i'm posting this here:
> > >>
> > >> 1 . The link (
> > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/cloudstack-dublin)
> > >> to the CloudStack days Dublin event on cloudstack.apache.org is 404.
> > >>
> > >> This could be because the event was changed to a 2-day event but
> > >> this should be fixed. I guess the second date should be added as well.
> > >>
> > >> 2. Several of the new committers seems to be missing on the list of
> > >> committers on cloudstack.apache.org. If the source is available
> > somewhere
> > >> i could help with updating the list if someone points me in the
> > >> right direction.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> -thinktwo
> > >>
> >
> >
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RE: [ANNOUNCE] New committer: Gaurav Nandkumar Aradhye

[Giles Sirett]

Congratulations Gaurav - well deserved


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> -Original Message-
> From: Somesh Naidu [mailto:somesh.na...@citrix.com]
> Sent: 14 April 2015 18:16
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [ANNOUNCE] New committer: Gaurav Nandkumar Aradhye
>
> Congratulations Gaurav!
>
> Regards,
> Somesh
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gaurav Aradhye [mailto:gaurav.arad...@clogeny.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:08 AM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] New committer: Gaurav Nandkumar Aradhye
>
> Thanks Raja!
>
> Regards,
> Gaurav Aradhye
>
> On Apr 14, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Raja Pullela  wrote:
>
> > Congratulations Gaurav!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rajani Karuturi [mailto:raj...@apache.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:10 AM
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] New committer: Gaurav Nandkumar Aradhye
> >
> > congratulations Gaurav..
> >
> > ~Rajani
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 1:35 AM, Erik Weber  wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Daan Hoogland
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache CloudStack has
> >>> asked Gaurav Aradhya to become a committer and we are pleased to
> >>> announce that they have accepted.
> >>>
> >>> Being a committer allows many contributors to contribute more
> >>> autonomously. For developers, it makes it easier to submit changes
> >>> and eliminates the need to have contributions reviewed via the patch
> >>> submission process. Whether contributions are development-related or
> >>> otherwise, it is a recognition of a contributor's participation in
> >>> the project and commitment to the project and the Apache Way.
> >>>
> >>> Please join me in congratulating Gaurav
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Well deserved, welcome!
> >> Congratulations :-)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Erik
> >>

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RE: List of freelance developers (Was: Re: searching for a cloudstack developer)

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I would welcome a wiki page for this and people providing  other services 
around ACS (of which there is a growing number)


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> -Original Message-
> From: Sebastien Goasguen [mailto:run...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 15 April 2015 09:45
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: List of freelance developers (Was: Re: searching for a cloudstack
> developer)
>
>
> > On Apr 15, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Erik Weber  wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:05 AM, S. Brüseke - proIO GmbH <
> > s.brues...@proio.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> we are searching for a cloudstack developer! We found and reported
> >> some bugs in CS, which are really annoying for our workflow, but
> >> minor to the opensource project.
> >> The problem is that we do not have the knowlegde and manpower to
> >> solve these bugs, but we are willing to pay for a solution and
> >> provide the code to the opensource project.
> >>
> >> Please contact me, if you need more information.
> >>
> >>
> > Renaming the thread for my input.
> >
> > We also face some issues from time to time that is of low importance
> > to the project.
> >
> > Would it make sense, and be possible, to compile a list of people /
> > companies / other resources that are willing to do per case development?
> >
>
> I think you could definitely start a wiki page and list folks there.
>
>
> > --
> > Erik

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RE: CCC Dublin 2015

[Giles Sirett]

Sebastien - this is GREAT news and thanks for your efforts in making this happen


Although I am a fan of the 1 day cloudstackdays format, it did mean that we 
didn’t have a natrual point for the community to meet. I'm very much hoping 
that as many of us as possible can get together now 7-8 October

Cloudstack and guiness - whats not to like ?

>
> Hi folks,
>
> After getting feedback couple weeks ago on the cloudstack days, Karen Vuong,
> Giles and a couple others who volunteered to help discussed with the Linux
> foundation who is organizing the event.
>
> We are going to take a bit of a gamble, cancel the event in Budapest and make
> Dublin a two day event , collocated with linuxcon. We might also try to 
> organize
> a unconference off-site after the 2 days.
>
> We will re-brand, CloudStack days Dublin: CloudStack Collaboration Conference
> Europe.
>
> To make this happen, we will need to raise an additional $10k
>
> Citrix, Shapeblue and Nuage Networks have already stepped in and sponsored
> the event (and some of the other ones as well, if not all).
>
> So potential sponsors listening on this list, you are welcome to jump in and 
> help
> us make CCC Europe happen again, back by popular demand.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Sebastien
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RE: [ANNOUNCE] New PMC Member: Lucian (Nux)

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A PMC member from the Delta quadrant - like it

Congrats Lucian

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> -Original Message-
> From: Rajani Karuturi [mailto:raj...@apache.org]
> Sent: 26 March 2015 03:43
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: [ANNOUNCE] New PMC Member: Lucian (Nux)
>
> The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache CloudStack has asked
> Lucian to join the PMC and we are pleased to announce that he has accepted.
>
> Join me in congratulating Lucian!
>
> On behalf of the Apache CloudStack PMC
>
> ~Rajani
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[Event] - Cloudstack European User Group

[Giles Sirett]

Spring meeting of CSEUG, kindly hosted by BT
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/cloudstack-european-user-group-tickets-16282793273

please register early - limited seats

Agenda is TBA  - ping me if you have a speaking proposal/idea



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[Announce] - New VP Apache Cloudstack

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All
The Apache Cloudstack PMC is delighted to announce that on March 18 an ASF 
board resolution was passed to make Sebastien Goasguen the new Chair/VP of 
Apache CloudStack.

Sebastien replaces Hugo in this role


I'm sure you'll all join me in wishing Sebastien all the best for the next 12 
months and also in thanking Hugo for all of his hard work over the last year.

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RE: ACS 4.5 Release [URGENT]

[Giles Sirett]

All
I've just pinged private@ for view from other members of PMC on this, but 
personally I do agree with people here that we should not ship something with 
such a glaring known defect (especially seeing its able to be fixed quickly)

From a "constitutional perspective" I think this is a unprecedented situation 
,and I'm not sure how it can be handled (i.e. we need to effectively cancel the 
results of a vote)

I'm also not sure what wheels have been set in motion in terms of 
announcements, etc but IMO those wheels should be paused

If people are generally in agreement, I suggest that somebody calls an 
unorthodox  [cancel release] vote ASAP (I'll leave it to somebody more active 
on dev). I know that’s unprecendented and not sure how it fits the bylaws, but 
at least we have an audit trail of the desire to do this

We can then spin RC5  with this patch and then vote on that afresh

Thoughts?









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> -Original Message-
> From: Nux! [mailto:n...@li.nux.ro]
> Sent: 10 March 2015 11:37
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: ACS 4.5 Release [URGENT]
>
> Agreed.
>
> One more RC, please, David?
>
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>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Abhinandan Prateek" 
> > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, 10 March, 2015 11:31:40
> > Subject: Re: ACS 4.5 Release [URGENT]
>
> >>
> >> On 03/10/2015 11:45 AM, Geoff Higginbottom wrote:
> >>> @PMC
> >>>
> >>> Whilst the Vote has officially passed, we have not announced it yet
> >>> so still have time to retract the release, fix and then potentially
> >>> re-vote etc.
> >>>
> >>
> >> This seems like a serious issue to me. Rules not applying on a VR is
> >> a big problem.
> >>
> >> We should release good software instead of broken versions, since
> >> that will damage the reputation of CloudStack.
> >
> > I do agree here. We should fix it and then ship.
> >
> >>
> >> Wido
> >>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Geoff Higginbottom
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com >>> .com>
> >>>
> >>> From: Paul Angus [mailto:paul.an...@shapeblue.com] Sent: 10 March
> >>> 2015 10:28 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: ACS 4.5 Release
> >>> [URGENT] Importance: High
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> Given that the release 4.5 vote passed, with the blocker
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-8248 which had the
> >>> knock on effect of
> >>> CLOUDSTACK-8305 830
> >>> 5>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> VPC ACL Rules are not applied to Virtual
> >>> Router
> >>>
> >>> Do we have a mechanism to recall/annul that RC vote and use a build
> >>> with the fixes in?  I have a horrible feeling that it would require
> >>> another round of voting, but that has to be better than shipping a
> >>> broken product.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
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RE: discuss [ release process checklist]

[Giles Sirett]

Erik

Somehow you seem to have uncovered my numeric dyslexia  - you are 100% right.

Thread cancelled :-)




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> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbol...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 24 February 2015 09:16
> To: dev
> Cc: market...@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: discuss [ release process checklist]
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Giles Sirett 
> wrote:
>
> > All
> >
> > Cross posting to  marketing & dev
> >
> > I had the displeasure of reading this article this morning
> >
> > http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2015/02/23/openstack-vs-
> cl
> > oudstack-the-platforms-and-the-cloud-apis/
> >
> > Initially I thought it was an old article that had been re-hashed, but
> > then   I saw his reference to our downloads page:
> > http://cloudstack.apache.org/downloads.html
> >
> > which clearly says “Apache CloudStack's most current release is 4.4.2”.
> > Hence this article citing it as our current release (yes, theres other
> > badly researched “facts” in the article also)
> >
> >
> Isn't 4.4.2 the newest release in terms of features?
> Yes, 4.3.2 might have been released later, but that's a bugfix release and for
> comparisons it would be better to compare the highest version number?
>
> Or I might be misunderstanding the problem entirely
>
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discuss [ release process checklist]

[Giles Sirett]

All

Cross posting to  marketing & dev

I had the displeasure of reading this article this morning
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2015/02/23/openstack-vs-cloudstack-the-platforms-and-the-cloud-apis/

Initially I thought it was an old article that had been re-hashed, but then   I 
saw his reference to our downloads page:
http://cloudstack.apache.org/downloads.html

which clearly says “Apache CloudStack's most current release is 4.4.2”. Hence 
this article citing it as our current release (yes, theres other badly 
researched “facts” in the article also)

Obviously, this had  just an oversight during the 4.3,4.4 releases and I 
understand when everybody is trying to get a release out of the door, updating 
the website isn’t always going to be the top priotiy

This leads me to ask: have we, as a community, got some form of checklist for a 
release ? I’m thinking about all of the tasks (such as updating the website) 
“around” the code release, however I could ask the same question for the actual 
release itself



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RE: [ANNOUNCE] New committer: Erik Weber (terbolous)

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Great news - congratulations Erik

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-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Luc Dion [mailto:pdion...@apache.org]
Sent: 13 December 2014 17:04
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Subject: [ANNOUNCE] New committer: Erik Weber (terbolous)

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache CloudStack has asked Erik 
Weber to become a committer and we are pleased to announce that they have 
accepted.

Erik is doing a great job on helping the community thru the mailing list.
He helped a lot on testing and troubleshooting new releases of CloudStack as 
well as contributing to the documentation. Thanks Erik and Congrat!


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developers, it makes it easier to submit changes and eliminates the need to 
have contributions reviewed via the patch submission process. Whether 
contributions are development-related or otherwise, it is a recognition of a 
contributor's participation in the project and commitment to the project and 
the Apache Way.

Please join me in congratulating Erik

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RE: [DISCUSS] Automatic usage reporting / call-home for CloudStack

[Giles Sirett]

Hi Wido

I recently had a thought on this.

Although I would be loathed that anybody has to "register" ACS when they use 
it, it would be good if we could differentiate between  production deployments 
and lab/bench deployments.
From the marketing perspective, we've got this crazy situation where we KNOW 
that there are many 100's of people running ACS but still only 70 people told 
us about their use in the last survey.
The problem is, if we don’t differentiate between prod/lab - then the data you 
collect will be padded with people running it in their home labs.

I'm not sure how we can go about doing this. The simplest thing would be a 
global setting, but where would the incentive be for people to change that 
setting when they put something into production ?

Another approach, which some may think controversial, would be that we do an 
"about"  screen/page that allows people to change this setting.
This screen could display a summary of version, #pods, clusters,etc (all the 
standard stuff people need to find out about their system) - so it would be 
useful for people
It could also contain info on how to join/access the community/ML's for support 
and (most controversially)  it could give people the option to put in some 
basic company information if they wished.
I totally understand that the last bit may be a thought too far some some people


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-Original Message-
From: Wido den Hollander [mailto:w...@widodh.nl]
Sent: 01 December 2014 18:08
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Automatic usage reporting / call-home for CloudStack



On 12/01/2014 06:40 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> +1
>
> Wido, will the statistics be accessible online for everyone (like
> real-time) or will the PMC release aggregated data periodically?
>

I was thinking to keep the data PMC-only to start with and indeed release 
aggregated data periodically.

> On Monday 01 December 2014 06:38 PM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> As a project we currently don't have a lot of insight information on
>> about how CloudStack is being used. Surveys tell us a lot, but not
>> everybody fills in the survey, so we still miss a lot of information.
>>
>> That's why I've written the Usage Reporting functionality for the
>> management server which automatically sends back anonymous
>> information about a CloudStack deployment.
>>
>> It's currently in the 'reporter' branch. [0]
>>
>> By default, every 7 days it generates a JSON document with:
>> - Hosts (Number, version, type, hypervisor)
>> - Clusters (Hypervisor en Management type)
>> - Primary storage (Type and provider)
>> - Zones (Network type and providers)
>> - Instances (Number and types)
>>
>> This report is not complete yet, I'd like to add more information,
>> but that will be Management Server information.
>>
>> The code on how this report is generated is obviously 100% Open
>> Source, so end-users can always exactly see how the information was compiled.
>>
>> I want to discuss this new feature for CloudStack and the possible
>> implications it might have.
>>
>> I'm opting for a opt-out. So every new or upgraded install to 4.6.0
>> (master) will have this enabled. Yes, we have to be very explicit in
>> the Release Notes that this has been added.
>>
>> Why? It's the small price we as a project ask for using CloudStack.
>> We want a little bit of information on how CloudStack is being used
>> so that we can use this to make CloudStack even better.
>>
>> Turning it off is also just one global setting and it will never turn
>> on again.
>>
>> On the server-side there is a Python flask application [1] (found in
>> the reporter directory) which stores all the incoming information in
>> a ElasticSearch database. From there analytics can be gathered on
>> CloudStack deployments.
>>
>> It currently points to http://cs-report.widodh.nl/report which will
>> NOT be the endpoint when this is merged into master.
>>
>> For 'production' I want to have
>> https://report.cloudstack.apache.org/report where all reports are
>> submitted.
>>
>> For every setup a unique ID is determined by hashing the first row in
>> the 'version' table. This is the version + timestamp and that is
>> hashed using SHA256. Using this unique ID we can track changes in
>> deployments and see how they grow or shrink.
>>
>> Technically this wasn't that hard to implement, but the politics
>> surrounding it might be the hardest part.
>>
>> What do other have to say about this? Should there be a VOTE for this
>> feature to come into CloudStack? Opt-in, opt-out?
>>
>> Wido
>>
>> [0]:
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=shortlog;h
>> =refs/heads/reporter
>>
>> [1]:
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=blob;f=rep
>> orter/usage-report-collector.py;h=500a4d284b5172fd93acea08f5460cfff55
>> 20855;hb=reporter
>>
>>
>
> --
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> Rohit Yadav
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[CFP] CloudStack Day Brazil

[Giles Sirett]

All

Marco & Cyrano are organising a "CloudStack day" in Sao Paulo, Brazil on 12 
February 2015.
Format will be single track (maybe 5-6 talks) ,no "pay to play" talks , target 
300 attendees.
There will be sponsors, but the event will be run on a non-profit basis


The University of Sao Paulo have kindly donated a venue  
http://www.bbm.usp.br/node/19

If anybody is interested in speaking at this event, please let one of us know.
I understand that it is a long way for many people to travel, but the fact that 
Carnival starts the next day may help persuade a few of you!


As per our byelaws, we should make an open offer to anybody in the community to 
be involved in the selection of talks. If we actually get enough volunteers to 
fly to Brazil (and have more talks than slots) - then we will do exactly that. 
However, I anticipate that we may not actually get to that point.

Also, if any companies are interested in sponsoring the event, please let Marco 
know - he will be working with a local events organiser who will be handling 
sponsorship


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RE: CloudStack Job offering @exoscale

[Giles Sirett]

But being such a small community right now, I think its great to see Exoscale 
creating developer roles around Cloudstack and agree, right now, that this is 
the most sensible place to post them  - really good news Antoine.
At the same time its worth mentioning that ShapeBlue have a number of 
Cloudstack dev & Engineering positions open
Shapeblue.com/careers
And, yes, Interoute are also hiring Cloudstack people

As the jobs market around Cloudstack is clearly developing (what a fantastic 
sign),  long-term, nobody wants to see our dev list getting spammed by  
recruiters, etc - but I also do think it is useful for people in our community 
to see that, if they want, they can develop their careers around ACS
May I suggest that we encourage people going forward to use the various 
Cloudstack linkedin groups for these sort of subjects - that would keep these 
out of the dev list

Thoughts ?


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Subject: Fwd: CloudStack Job offering @exoscale

I think this is legitimate on dev@

Note that there are also jobs available at interoute.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Coetsier, Antoine" 
> Subject: CloudStack Job offering @exoscale
> Date: November 26, 2014 5:20:57 PM GMT+01:00
> To: "us...@cloudstack.apache.org" 
> Reply-To: us...@cloudstack.apache.org
>
> Hello All,
>
> We are looking for a developer that already has some knowledge of CloudStack 
> to join our team at Exoscale. Trendy topics about network 
> functions/distributed LB in CS for this full time job.
>
> This is based in Switzerland of course. The job description is here:
> https://www.exoscale.ch/jobs/ Get in touch with us at: hr -AT-
> exoscale.ch
>
> Thank you,
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RE: merging versus cherry-picking

[Giles Sirett]

+1 to Sebastians proposal


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Subject: Re: merging versus cherry-picking

Hi,

On 16-Oct-2014, at 3:32 pm, sebgoa  wrote:
> Proposal:
> 
> All commits come through github PR, *even* for committers. We declare a 
> moratorium period (agreed suspension of activity) during which direct commit 
> to master is forbidden.
> Only the master RM is allowed to merge PR in master (we define a master RM). 
> If direct commit to master is done, master RM reverts without warning. Same 
> for 4.5 and 4.4. branches.
> ——

+1

We get the free TravisCI smoke checks and personally I find it more pleasant to 
view the diff, review on PR.

> This is drastic and I am sure some folks will not like it, but here is my 
> justification for such a measure:
>
> Our commit and release processes have so far been based on the idea that 
> development happens on master and that a release branch is cut from master 
> (unstable development branch). Then a different set of community members 
> harden the release branch, QA and bring it to GA level. During that time 
> development keeps on going in master.
>
> This is an OK process if we have the luxury of having a QA team and can cope 
> with split personality of being developers and release managers.
>
> My point of view is that as a community we cannot afford such a split brain 
> organization and our experience overt the last year proves my point (delayed 
> release date, broken builds, features merged without warning…)
>
> We can avoid this by cutting a release branch from a stable one (from the 
> start), then as you (Daan) have mentioned several times, fix bugs in the 
> release branch and merge them back in the stable source of the release (be it 
> master).
>
> Feature development need to be done outside master, period. Not only for 
> non-committers but also for committers. And merge request need to be called. 
> This will help review and avoid surprises.
>
> New git workflow were proposed and shutdown, mostly calling for better CI to 
> solve quality issues. CI will not solve our quality issues alone. We need to 
> better police ourselves.
>
> To avoid long discussions, I propose this simple but drastic measure. We move 
> all our commits to github PR until 4.5 is out, this stands for committers and 
> non-committers, direct commits (especially to master) would be reverted 
> immediately.

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Ice bucket challenge

[Giles Sirett]

I thought it was about time we brought this into Cloudstack :)
http://youtu.be/drZlbehnlNY


Geoff, Chip, Steve,  & Sebastien - over to you

(I know my video is bad, but I aint doing it again)


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RE: [ANNOUNCE] New PMC Member: Mark Hinkle

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Mark

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-Original Message-
From: Mark Hinkle [mailto:mark.hin...@citrix.com]
Sent: 07 July 2014 14:54
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Cc: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] New PMC Member: Mark Hinkle

Thanks for the asking me to join and everyone's kind words though if you start 
accepting my spaghetti code patches. I will vote for my own dismissal ;)

Regards, Mark


On Jul 3, 2014, at 1:50 PM, John Burwell 
mailto:jburw...@basho.com>> wrote:

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache CloudStack has asked Mark 
Hinkle to join the PMC and we are pleased to announce that he has accepted.

Join me in congratulating Mark!


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CloudStack adoption survey

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[cross posting]

All

We have just launched two new things on the Cloudstack.org website.


a)  A list of known users of Cloudstack 
(http://cloudstack.apache.org/users.html)

b)  A survey of cloudstack adoption for users of the software to complete 
(http://cloudstack.apache.org/survey.html)


As those of you who follow the marketing list will already know, Sally has been 
working really hard to try and establish our known user base.
Getting people to complete this survey is a REALLY important element in that: 
it will help Sally get the marketing message on ACS out.

The plan is to use the survey data to add and augment the initial user list 
published

So please help us out:


1.   If you're using cloudstack at your org  (I guess most of us are :) ) - 
TAKE THE SURVEY

2.   If you're friend at work is using cloudstack in the org: get them to - 
TAKE THE SURVEY

3.   If you buy instances from a provider using cloudstack, get them to  - 
TAKE THE SURVEY

4.   If you know customers or others using cloudstack. Get them to TAKE THE 
SURVEY

5.   Please get busy on twitter, linkedin ,blogs,etc  - encourage people to 
- TAKE THE SURVEY

6.   If somebody you once met at a conference is using Cloudstack, call 
them up and get them to - go figure

Please please get involved in helping to promote this. Don't leave it to others 
- get involved !

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cloudmonkey 5.1.0

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I'm trying to get a handle on whats new with CM 5.1.x

Anybody point me in the direction of the release notes or anywhere else that 
summarises ?

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[Announce] New Committer: Lucian Paul (Nux)

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The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache CloudStack has
asked Lucian Paul (Nux)  to become a committer and we are pleased to announce
that he has accepted.

Being a committer allows many contributors to contribute more autonomously. For
developers, it makes it easier to submit changes and eliminates the need to
have contributions reviewed via the patch submission process. Whether
contributions are development-related or otherwise, it is a recognition of a
contributor's participation in the project and commitment to the project and
the Apache Way.

Please join me in congratulating Nux!


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RE: [ANNOUNCE] Change of Apache CloudStack PMC Chair

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Congratulations Hugo

I'd like to thank Chip for all of his time, effort and commitment over the last 
12 months. Chip will  be a hard act to follow but Hugo, I'm sure, will also 
excel in the role.


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-Original Message-
From: Chip Childers [mailto:chipchild...@apache.org]
Sent: 19 March 2014 20:52
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Change of Apache CloudStack PMC Chair

Per our project bylaws, we are changing our project's chair today!

Over discussions during the last month the PMC had reached a consensus to 
recommend to the ASF board that Hugo Trippaers be accepted as the next Apache 
CloudStack PMC Chair / VP of Apache CloudStack.  As of today's ASF board 
meeting, this has been accepted and made official.

Please join me in congratulating Hugo in his new role!

It's been an honor serving the project as it's chair over the last year, and 
although I regret that my recent contributions have been diminished due to a 
change in $dayjob, I'm exceptionally proud to be part of this community. Apache 
CloudStack is amazing software, and the community that has formed around the 
code since it's donation to the ASF is nothing short of remarkable.

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RE: CloudStack implementations

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Wido
+1 on that idea

I know many people get nervous about such things for a FOSS project, so we 
would need to make sure that anything is transparent, is VERY careful about 
data and gives people the option to opt-out

The simple fact is that we don't currently have any idea how many production 
deployments, their scale,etc

We did a survey last year and got c.270 responses -  but we had to promote the 
awareness of that surevey and  there were plenty of ACS sites I know of who 
just didn't respond.  There will be many others that I don't know of

What differentiates ACS from other similar techs IMO is the number of 
production deployments. If we cant quantify that, it sounds like a lot of hot 
air.

Another approach, may be to put a "showcase" area on the website where people 
can submit their own sort of case studies

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From: sebgoa [mailto:run...@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 March 2014 11:21
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: CloudStack implementations


On Mar 18, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Wido den Hollander  wrote:

> On 03/18/2014 12:07 PM, Marcus wrote:
>> Do we have any general stats on how cloudstack is being used? Common
>> deployment sizes, largest deployments, etc? I'm curious as to how far
>> people have actually scaled it in real deployments, although I
>> realize that the info can be proprietary.
>>
>
> Recently at the Ceph project the tool "ceph-brag" was developed. It gathers 
> information about your Ceph deployment and sends back the information to the 
> project.
>
> Something like this might be nice (opt-in!!) for CloudStack. It can 
> anonymously report things like:
> - Number of Instances
> - Number of pods, cluster, hosts
> - Number of Primary Storage and their type
> - Basic / Advanced Networking
>
> This could all be written into one JSON file which we can submit back to the 
> project.
>
> With this we would get more information about how CloudStack is used.
>
> Obviously, the code will be Open Source so people can see how we gather the 
> information (probably a lot of SQL selects..) and how we submit it to our 
> servers.
>
> Is that something what you would like?

+1

>
> Wido

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[promote] CCCNA14

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All

Don't shoot me for cross posting this, I feel the whole of our community should 
be aware of CCCNA14 and the need to promote it as a community effort (and I'm 
sure dev@ will welcome a break from 4.3 vote threads :) )

CCCNA14 is 3 weeks away and we need to try and encourage as many people as 
possible to register and come along to, what looks like, a great conference.
The Linux foundation guys are doing a great job, but WE are the people who use 
& develop Cloudstack: we are the people who need to get involved.
In order to do that we, as a community, need to make some noise about the 
conference.

So, please get busy on social media, write some blogs (just doing mine now) , 
contact your colleagues, friends, customers, etc
Hashtags #CCCNA14
#Apachecon


If you're speaking: why don't you promote your own talk?
If you've got a colleague speaking: why don't you promote their talk ?
If theres a talk on the schedule that youre interested in - why don't you 
promote it ?
If you know anybody whos using Cloudstack (or integrating with it) - make sure 
they know about this conference (don't assume they'll know already)
If you're sponsoring, make sure you tell the world that you are


BTW: is anybody on these lists based in Colorado ? (I know the Solidfire guys 
are) . For CCCEU13, we got quite a few local technology people to come along. 
Would be great to repeat that.



I see target attendees falling into the two following categories:


1.   Cloudstack folks who we may persuade to come to Denver for the 
conference

2.   People attending ApacheCon the days before who we can convince to stay 
on and check out cloudstack


The speaker lineup looks great.
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/cloudstack-collaboration-conference-north-america




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4.3 vote

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I've lost track a little of the 4.3 vote.
Last I saw was that 6th round had been cancelled due to the MySQL dependencies
Animesh  - have you an idea when you'll be calling round 7 ?



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RE: 4.4 Feature Freeze

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I'm coming in late to this debate, but have been watching closely.

I am -1 on moving the freeze date
To put it more generally: I am -1 on ANYTHING that will have a potential impact 
on quality right now.
Whatever anybody says, I can bet that a shorter code freeze (even temporary) 
will have an impact on quality

I am not a developer, but I see the downstream fallout of features being rushed 
in with the users of this software

>From my experience in the field: customers (users)  do not rush to upgrade ACS 
>anyway.  Most of the orgs I know would accept a 3 month delay if they knew the 
>quality was going to be, on average, higher (obviously, we all have that one 
>feature that *we* want and think is low risk - but I'm generalising here)

We've already got a pretty frequent release cycle . This will be frustrating 
for some of you guys I know (understand many people working like crazy to build 
new features) , but we all know the release cycle, we all know the code freeze 
window.

I fully understand that 4.3 has been a pain to get out of the door and is the 
root cause of this situation. If we have less time to test 4.4, we run the risk 
of having the same happen again.

 If that means that 4.4 needs to ship with fewer features. So be it



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-Original Message-
From: Sebastien Goasguen [mailto:run...@gmail.com]
Sent: 02 March 2014 18:08
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: 4.4 Feature Freeze


On Feb 26, 2014, at 10:44 PM, Sudha Ponnaganti  
wrote:

> +1 to move feature freeze date in this case as 4.3 closure has impact on the 
> next release cycle.  There are 14 features targeted  for 4.4 and all of them 
> are in open state as of now.  There are only 2 weeks left to close on coding 
> and developers would rush to check in the code.   This only results in poor 
> quality code.

Why the rush ? if it's not done, it's not done and will get in later. Why rush 
to merge code that you know will have bugs ?

>
> Thanks
> /sudha
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Kinsella [mailto:j...@stratosec.co]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:22 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: 4.4 Feature Freeze
>
> I don't see not moving the freeze date as a penalty.  If a feature doesn't 
> make the current deadline, it moves to the next release, which is still a few 
> months away. For significant issues, it's not uncommon for us to allow them 
> in late.
>
> What we have a stronger need for than shifting a date, by several orders of 
> magnitude, is understanding why the RC process took so long and what we can 
> do in the future to make that not so painful.
>
> For the record I'm +0 on moving the feature freeze date.
>
> John
>
> On Feb 26, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Ram Ganesh  wrote:
>
>> I share it too. Many developers in the community went out of their
>> way to get a cleaner RC and thereby impacting their feature
>> development efforts. We shouldn't be penalizing them with this 2
>> week's feature freeze schedule
>>
>> Thanks,
>> RamG
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com]
>>> Sent: 27 February 2014 03:00
>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: 4.4 Feature Freeze
>>>
>>> Mike I share your opinion most of us have been pretty much on 4.3
>>> until now, and pushing out the release seems reasonable. As I called
>>> out in earlier mail the feature proposal date was not called out for
>>> 4.4 and as such giving little extra room seems reasonable.
>>>
>>> Animesh
>>>
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:29 AM
 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
 Subject: Re: 4.4 Feature Freeze

 I think we're having this discussion after every release because
 we're beginning to realize that a four-month release cycle has not
 been very realistic for us yet.

 The main issue I encounter is our month-long RC cycle where I spend
 a bunch of time validating the RC and (during that timeframe) less
 time developing for the next release as I had initially planned.

 Perhaps instead of extending the cycle we could consider ways to
 actually meet the schedule on a consistent basis. That would be
 fine, as
>>> well.


 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Hugo Trippaers 
 wrote:

> -1 on postponing the feature freeze. We are having this discussion
> after every release, however we agreed to do a 4 month cycle so
> let's stick
 to it.
>
> If there are important features that are currently being developed
> but might not make this cut-off date we should discuss that
> separately, but as a point of principle lets stick to the release
> schedule as
>>> proposed.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hugo
>
>
> On 26 feb. 2014, at 15:23, Tracy Phillips

RE: [ANNOUNCE] New PMC Member: Mike Tutkowski

[Giles Sirett]

Congratulations Mike

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Sent: 04 February 2014 16:21
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Subject: [ANNOUNCE] New PMC Member: Mike Tutkowski

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RE: [ANNOUNCE] New Committer: Mark Hinkle

[Giles Sirett]

Congrats Mark - a very long time overdue

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RE: Blacklists for passwords

[Giles Sirett]

I would +1 Demetrius' initial suggestion, however its not just blacklists, its 
masking to make sure that the pwd's are of sufficient strength


I expect some form of password strength control  in every aspect of IT  these 
days and I shudder when I type Root and "password" into our labs builds !

I (as a guy in an enterprise evaluating ACS) would expect to see some form of 
validation.

+1 to Daan's idea: it needs to be configurable. Different environments will 
have different complexity requirements.

I would *guess* that there's some standard password masking code out there 
somewhere ?


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-Original Message-
From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com]
Sent: 22 January 2014 14:05
To: dev
Subject: Re: Blacklists for passwords

Demetrius,

>From a development point of view I would oppose to such a feature. Of course 
>we can en-/disable it by a build profile.
Further more it should imo be configurable as to what the format must be that 
the password adheres to.

Hope this spikes some opposition,
Daan

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Demetrius Tsitrelis  
wrote:
>
>
> CloudStack does not enforce complexity rules for user passwords even
> in its built-in user database. For some accounts in particular, such as the 
> root domain admin, it would seem a good idea to have some minimum 
> requirements.  Empty passwords, for example, should not be allowed. What do 
> you think about having a blacklist of unacceptable passwords (e.g., 
> "password", "admin", etc.) for the rood domain admin?
>
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RE: [ANNOUNCE] New PMC Member: Giles Sirett

[Giles Sirett]

Thanks all - looking forward to continuing to help this project however I can


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congrats Giles, well deserved

On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Paul Angus  wrote:

> Congratulations Mr Sirett!  (sir, m'lord, your majesty)
>
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>
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RE: DR as a service in CloudPlatform?

[Giles Sirett]

Hi Octavian

The closest thing in CloudStack that I know of is probably GSLB - but it won't 
start individual VMs up in a different zone but transfer the traffic to a 
different zone if 'primary' zone fails

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/GSLB+%28Global+Server+Load+Balancing%29+Functional+specification+and+Design+Document


WRT Citrix Cloudplaform : this isn't really the right place to ask about the 
Citrix roadmap. You should ask your Citrix rep that


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-Original Message-
From: Octavian Popescu [mailto:octavian.pope...@interoute.com]
Sent: 08 January 2014 14:13
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Subject: DR as a service in CloudPlatform?

Hello,

Could you please confirm if any DR specific features are being developed for 
CloudStack/CloudPlatform? (e.g. DR tags that indicate whether a machine should 
be moved between zones in case of a failure) If positive, could you please 
share some details about how exactly it will work?

Thanks,
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RE: ANNOUNCE] New Committer: Giles Sirett

[Giles Sirett]

Everyone

Thanks for all the messages  - I feel honoured and very excited to become a 
committer.
The good news is that I do NOT intend to start writing code (its been a long 
time)

I am very much looking forward to continuing to help this project and this 
community in ways I know how: that generally being the ability to 
promote/evangelise and make sure that Apache Cloudstack  continues to be the 
success that it should be .

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Subject: RE: ANNOUNCE] New Committer: Giles Sirett

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From: John Burwell 
Sent: 02 December 2013 16:06
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: Giles Sirett
Subject: ANNOUNCE] New Committer: Giles Sirett

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(cross posting to dev,users,marketing)

CLOUDSTACK COLLABORATION CONFERENCE, AMSTERDAM, 20-22 NOV
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I just had a chat with somebody whos active on the dev list, based in Europe 
and didn't know that the European CloudStack Collaboration Conference is 
happening next week in Amsterdam.

I know it has been discussed previously and I'm sure *nearly* everyone is aware 
 - but this email is just in case




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RE: [ANNOUNCE] New PMC member: Daan Hoogland

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Congrats Dan

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Subject: [ANNOUNCE] New PMC member: Daan Hoogland

The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache CloudStack has asked Daan 
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RE: documentation/wiki is a mess

[Giles Sirett]

+1 on "no docs, no submit"

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-Original Message-
From: Sebastien Goasguen [mailto:run...@gmail.com]
Sent: 05 September 2013 07:14
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: aemne...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: documentation/wiki is a mess


On Sep 5, 2013, at 1:11 AM, Prasanna Santhanam  wrote:

> Radhika, what I meant was everyone should help out with docs. Esp.
> those working on a feature should care most that the docs for their
> feature is perfect for an end user to understand, implement and use.
>
> We shouldn't piggy-back on those helping fix doc bugs all the time
> which I see happening too often. Someone files a doc bug and someone
> else fixes it and someone else reviews it and finally the users are
> still having trouble understanding it. We're just creating work for
> ourselves that way.
>
> Feature specs have architectural and implementation details and may
> not often be fully baked by the time the feature starts development.
> Changes happen during implementation and reviewing our docs after
> everything is merged is a good forcing-function to fix our docs.
>
> I'm +1 for style guides and markdown based docs. They should make this
> whole process a lot easier for everyone.

I am a big +1 for literally forcing devs to submit docs for user facing 
features, otherwise the feature does not get added.
Just like unit tests. No unitests, no commit, no docs, no commit.
The devs are the best to write the docs of their own feature.

>
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 09:52:03PM -0700, Ahmad Emneina wrote:
>> I think prasanna hit the nail on the head. I'm sure there are
>> features there no one knows about, or ever will...
>> +1 for developers documenting what features/functions are abound.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Radhika Puthiyetath <
>> radhika.puthiyet...@citrix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We do not have a doc team as such :-)
>>>
>>> We have a set of doc contributors that so far have not worked as a team.
>>> Probably, we should think about  aligning the doc efforts and having
>>> a process and style guide in place.
>>>
>>> If the FS is good enough, we need not trouble the code committers to
>>> write own docs is what I feel.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> -Radhika
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Prasanna Santhanam [mailto:t...@apache.org]
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 9:34 AM
>>> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: documentation/wiki is a mess
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 11:10:28AM -0700, Darren Shepherd wrote:

 The state of documentation of an open source projects says a lot
 about the community that develops it...

>>>
>>> Esp. for XML documentation: I say we write our own docs if we want
>>> our feature to be used. Or it dies a natural death in quiet
>>> isolation with no one ever using it. Docs team can handle the editing and 
>>> organizing bits.
>>> That should go for Wikis too. If you want the wiki to be useful then
>>> write it, organize it and maintain it. Don't just put it there to
>>> fill a template. It'll never recieve any love.
>>>
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problem with wiki ?

[Giles Sirett]

Just looking at
https://cwiki.apache.org/CLOUDSTACK/cloudstack-42-release.html

and under the "improvements" and the "Features" headings it says "Unknown 
macro: (Jiraissues)"




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cloudstack usage survey

[Giles Sirett]

All
Over on @marketing, we've been working on a user survey. This will hopefully 
give us a much better view of the current CloudStack User base
The survey is here:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/28BV97D

We need to try and get as many cloudstack users as possible to respond.
So, I'd appreciate   as much support as possible: I need people to speak to 
users, to tweet, to mention at meetups,etc,etc
I'm conducing the survey on behalf of the community. The questions have been 
discussed by the @marketing list. The data is to be treated confidentially and 
will be analysed by myself and Sebastien. The results will be anonymous/summary 
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Re: [VOTE] List CloudStack related books on the website

[Giles Sirett]

+1


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On 27 May 2013, at 09:27, "Sebastien Goasguen" 
mailto:run...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

After a relatively long discussion on the marketing@ list about the "Packt 
Book" [1] I would like to call a vote.

Proposal:

I propose to list CloudStack related books on our website [2]. The page listing 
these books would contain the following disclaimer:

"This listing does not represent official endorsement by the Apache CloudStack 
project. The Apache CloudStack project does not recommend one book versus 
another nor does it guarantee the quality of the books."

Inclusion of a book in the listing would be done via a vote on the marketing@ 
list.


As a quick summary, alternatives to this proposal were to:
1-not do anything
2-list the books on the wiki

A few of us have already expressed their opinions and discussed the 
possibilities. Check [1].

Vote will be open for 96 hours (To accommodate Memorial day in the USA).

Reply with:

[ ] +1  approve
[ ] +0  no opinion
[ ] -1  disapprove (and reason why)

PS: If edits of the disclaimer are needed but that they do not change the 
meaning of it, the disclaimer will be modified but the vote will not be 
restarted.

[1] http://markmail.org/thread/r4qdmbonmx6yq2uv
[2] http://cloudstack.apache.org

-Sebastien
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RE: [DISCUSS] Backwards compatibility

[Giles Sirett]

+1
Hugo - I think that's a very pragmatic approach. Whilst it would be great to 
upgrade any version to any other version, I think most people are used to 
sequential paths for upgrade of server platforms.

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-Original Message-
From: Hugo Trippaers [mailto:htrippa...@schubergphilis.com]
Sent: 14 May 2013 16:34
To: 'dev@cloudstack.apache.org'
Subject: [DISCUSS] Backwards compatibility

Hey all,

We have invested a lot of effort in creating upgrade paths from older releases 
to the latest version. As a sysadmin this is one of the things I value 
CloudStack for.

However as a developers there are some drawbacks to this. It means every time 
we release a new version we need to QA the entire upgrade path to check if 
users can upgrade to this new versions. With the speed and features we are 
picking up, I'm expecting this to become a large burden in the near future. My 
proposal would be to draw a line somewhere. Personally I think it would be ok 
to say to a user that wants to upgrade from version 2.2.14 to 4.2 to first 
upgrade to version 4.0.x en than upgrade to 4.2.x.  For our code it does not 
really matter that much, but it does matter for QA and packaging.

For QA we can safely assume that the upgrades from 2.2.14 to 4.0 are covered by 
the 4.0 release. If we run into trouble, we release a maintenance release of 
that version. QA for new versions should focus on a stable upgrade path for one 
or two recent versions and can "ignore" old versions in the process.  With only 
a few versions to test against we could also automate parts of this.

For packaging it is also great. Especially with the current changes in naming 
(from cloud to cloudstack) and potential future changes to integrate better 
with distributions it becomes handy  to be able to have short upgrade paths. 
How reasonable is it to have an upgrade path for 2.2.14 in the RPM when that 
rpm is built for RedHat 7.

I would be in favor of supporting upgrades from the first major release in any 
series. For example 4.1, 4.2 and 5.0 should have a tested upgrade path from 
4.0. 5.1 would have an upgrade path only from 5.0.

What do you guys think?

Cheers,

Hugo

P.S. ignore the version numbers, just used some random version numbers to 
illustrate my ideas.

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RE: [DISCUSS] Should we be releasing -beta releases?

[Giles Sirett]

+1

It would be much easier for planning purposes if we had target dates for betas.
That would allow us to say to our user community "hey, we've got  something new 
for you to test, come and get it" - instead of people having to stay up to date 
with the development and then choose when to start to test

Noticed Daan's point about the overhead & burdon, which is true, but I still 
think it would be better this way


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-Original Message-
From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:j...@zonker.net]
Sent: 14 May 2013 15:49
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Should we be releasing -beta releases?

On Tue, May 14, 2013, at 09:41 AM, Chip Childers wrote:
> As a way to get more user feedback on our major feature releases, what
> does everyone think about releasing one or two -beta releases for each
> major feature release?

Yes to beta releases. I know that users could test at any time, but we need 
explicit targets for users that say "now is a good time to test this and give 
feedback."

+1


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RE: Question about changing characteristics of a VM or data disk

[Giles Sirett]

Mike

I think you need to stop the  instance, you can then change the service 
offering that its attached to

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-Original Message-
From: Mike Tutkowski [mailto:mike.tutkow...@solidfire.com]
Sent: 26 March 2013 16:09
To: cloudstack-...@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Question about changing characteristics of a VM or data disk

Hi,

Just a quick question here.

Once you've spun up a VM or created a data disk, is it possible to change the 
characteristics of said VM or data disk (like give more RAM to the VM, increase 
the size of the volume, etc.)?

Thanks!

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RE: [DISCUSS] create a general@ mailing list?

[Giles Sirett]

Noah

Isn't that what users@ is for ? - or is that really intended for true, well, 
users (Cloudstack doesn't really have users in the traditional sense)


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-Original Message-
From: Noah Slater [mailto:nsla...@apache.org]
Sent: 26 March 2013 09:51
To: cloudstack
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] create a general@ mailing list?

P.S. Chip, I would consider asking on general@hadoop.a.o about this...


On 21 March 2013 03:42, Chip Childers  wrote:

> I've noticed that some of the projects separate discussions between
> dev and general administrative items via a general@ and a dev@ list.
> For example, the last email I sent was about project meta-data.  It's
> not specifically about developing cloudstack, but about managing our
> community activities.
>
> Does anyone think it makes sense to break that type of discussion out
> into a general@ list?
>



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