Re: [OT] How's Saxon like?

2003-12-23 Thread Martin Holz
Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was wondering if some of you guys had experience with Saxon...
 
 Since I like its object model better than Xalan's, and I'm working on
 a couple of projects requiring direct access to an XPath
 implementation, I just wanted to doublecheck that I'm not going down a
 awful buggy/slow road.

I am very happy with 6.5.3. Seems to be faster than xalan and more 
robust. I switched to saxon, when xalan failed for very complex 
stylesheets and never looked back. At some points its more picky
about stylesheets. E,g. template match=node = $parameter   
was accepted by xalan but correctly rejected by saxon. 
This may concern some logicsheets.

Martin



[OT] How's Saxon like?

2003-12-22 Thread Pier Fumagalli
I was wondering if some of you guys had experience with Saxon...

Since I like its object model better than Xalan's, and I'm working on a 
couple of projects requiring direct access to an XPath implementation, 
I just wanted to doublecheck that I'm not going down a awful buggy/slow 
road.

Thanks,

	Pier



RE: [OT] How's Saxon like?

2003-12-22 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Pier Fumagalli wrote:
 
 I was wondering if some of you guys had experience with Saxon...
 
 Since I like its object model better than Xalan's, and I'm working on a 
 couple of projects requiring direct access to an XPath implementation, 
 I just wanted to doublecheck that I'm not going down a awful buggy/slow 
 road.
 
Our experience is exactly the opposite: Saxon is in many environments
more than twice as fast than Xalan!

Carsten


Re: [OT] How's Saxon like?

2003-12-22 Thread Nicolas Toper
I agree it is faster and it handles other cool things as cool extension. 
Besides, even it is not yet a recommandation it implements XSLT 2.0 spec.
Le Lundi 22 Décembre 2003 16:19, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit :
 Pier Fumagalli wrote:
  I was wondering if some of you guys had experience with Saxon...
 
  Since I like its object model better than Xalan's, and I'm working on a
  couple of projects requiring direct access to an XPath implementation,
  I just wanted to doublecheck that I'm not going down a awful buggy/slow
  road.

 Our experience is exactly the opposite: Saxon is in many environments
 more than twice as fast than Xalan!

 Carsten



Re: [OT] How's Saxon like?

2003-12-22 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 22 Dec 2003, at 15:25, Nicolas Toper wrote:
Le Lundi 22 Décembre 2003 16:19, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit :
Pier Fumagalli wrote:
I was wondering if some of you guys had experience with Saxon...

Since I like its object model better than Xalan's, and I'm working 
on a
couple of projects requiring direct access to an XPath 
implementation,
I just wanted to doublecheck that I'm not going down a awful 
buggy/slow
road.
Our experience is exactly the opposite: Saxon is in many environments
more than twice as fast than Xalan!
That's great... I was just wondering if I was going to be hit by a 
massive performance problem, or nasty XPath bugs, but it looks like 
you're happy with it (so, if something doesn't work in my app, it's my 
fault) :-)

I agree it is faster and it handles other cool things as cool 
extension.
Besides, even it is not yet a recommandation it implements XSLT 2.0 
spec.
That I don't care much about... I just need XPath, and a decent object 
model for applying XPaths to sets of XML documents. And if you look at 
Xalan's DTM, it's a NIGHTMARE...

Cool, Saxon 7.8 is then... Thank you guys!

	Pier



Re: [OT] How's Saxon like?

2003-12-22 Thread Carlos Araya
Pier:

6.5.3 is the current version supporting XSLT and XPATH 1.0. In my experience
it's faster than Xalan in all situations I have to work in and haven't hit
any bugs with it. Michael Kay is very good at answering questions and bug
reports.

7.x is the experimental line that implements most of the XSLT, Xquery and
Xpath 2.0 working drafts. It is not recomended for production but if you're
working on developing an application, it may be good to implement using the
7.x line in the understanding that things may/probably will change before
the specs go final
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Subject: Re: [OT] How's Saxon like?


On 22 Dec 2003, at 15:25, Nicolas Toper wrote:
 Le Lundi 22 Décembre 2003 16:19, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit :
 Pier Fumagalli wrote:

 I was wondering if some of you guys had experience with Saxon...

 Since I like its object model better than Xalan's, and I'm working
 on a
 couple of projects requiring direct access to an XPath
 implementation,
 I just wanted to doublecheck that I'm not going down a awful
 buggy/slow
 road.

 Our experience is exactly the opposite: Saxon is in many environments
 more than twice as fast than Xalan!

That's great... I was just wondering if I was going to be hit by a
massive performance problem, or nasty XPath bugs, but it looks like
you're happy with it (so, if something doesn't work in my app, it's my
fault) :-)

 I agree it is faster and it handles other cool things as cool
 extension.
 Besides, even it is not yet a recommandation it implements XSLT 2.0
 spec.

That I don't care much about... I just need XPath, and a decent object
model for applying XPaths to sets of XML documents. And if you look at
Xalan's DTM, it's a NIGHTMARE...

Cool, Saxon 7.8 is then... Thank you guys!

Pier