Re: Cocoon website urls
Jasha Joachimsthal wrote: What about a mixture of the unchangeable id's and the title. Like http://cocoon.apache.org/2.2/1290_1_1/Your_first_XML_pipeline_(publishing).html and that can be changed into http://cocoon.apache.org/2.2/1290_1_1/The_new_title_of_the_page.html Shouldn't be that hard to match in Cocoon on the 1290_1_1 ;) Website is a static HTML. But, you can still do this using mod_rewrite. Vadim
RE: Cocoon website urls
-Original Message- From: Grzegorz Kossakowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri 11/16/2007 20:51 To: dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: Re: Cocoon website urls Carsten Ziegeler pisze: I know that this has been discussed in the past, but nevertheless do we really think that urls like http://cocoon.apache.org/2.2/1290_1_1.html are suited for a top web framework of the 21st century? 1290_1_1 has absolutely no meaning. So what can be done about it? I support you Carsten on this. I talked about this with Reinhard and, AFAIR, he told me that the main reason was to have links immutable. I think we could loosen our requirement for having immutable links to just provide permanent redirection for changed titles. I must admit I haven't evaluated if it's technically easy to achieve but at least such idea is rather conforms HTTP spec. The worst thing is that our current version of Daisy does not support titles as names of published documents. Am I right Reinhard? -- Grzegorz Kossakowski Committer and PMC Member of Apache Cocoon http://reflectingonthevicissitudes.wordpress.com/ What about a mixture of the unchangeable id's and the title. Like http://cocoon.apache.org/2.2/1290_1_1/Your_first_XML_pipeline_(publishing).html and that can be changed into http://cocoon.apache.org/2.2/1290_1_1/The_new_title_of_the_page.html Shouldn't be that hard to match in Cocoon on the 1290_1_1 ;) Jasha winmail.dat
Re: Cocoon website urls
Grzegorz Kossakowski wrote: Carsten Ziegeler pisze: I know that this has been discussed in the past several times ;-) , but nevertheless do we really think that urls like http://cocoon.apache.org/2.2/1290_1_1.html are suited for a top web framework of the 21st century? 1290_1_1 has absolutely no meaning. actually this was the intention. Since it was me who implemented the Daisy export plugin for Maven, I decided for non-speaking URLs. So what can be done about it? I support you Carsten on this. I talked about this with Reinhard and, AFAIR, he told me that the main reason was to have links immutable. I think we could loosen our requirement for having immutable links to just provide permanent redirection for changed titles. I must admit I haven't evaluated if it's technically easy to achieve but at least such idea is rather conforms HTTP spec. The worst thing is that our current version of Daisy does not support titles as names of published documents. Am I right Reinhard? Yes, the Daisy explort plugin doesn't support this feature, but it shouldn't be too difficult to implement this. However, don't hold your breath that it will be me who will add this feature because it is rather low on my Cocoon priority list (long after a final release of 2.2, _wirting_docs, RESTful forms/controller, etc.). -- Reinhard PötzManaging Director, {Indoqa} GmbH http://www.indoqa.com/en/people/reinhard.poetz/ Member of the Apache Software Foundation Apache Cocoon Committer, PMC member, PMC Chair[EMAIL PROTECTED] _
Re: Cocoon website urls
Carsten Ziegeler pisze: I know that this has been discussed in the past, but nevertheless do we really think that urls like http://cocoon.apache.org/2.2/1290_1_1.html are suited for a top web framework of the 21st century? 1290_1_1 has absolutely no meaning. So what can be done about it? I support you Carsten on this. I talked about this with Reinhard and, AFAIR, he told me that the main reason was to have links immutable. I think we could loosen our requirement for having immutable links to just provide permanent redirection for changed titles. I must admit I haven't evaluated if it's technically easy to achieve but at least such idea is rather conforms HTTP spec. The worst thing is that our current version of Daisy does not support titles as names of published documents. Am I right Reinhard? -- Grzegorz Kossakowski Committer and PMC Member of Apache Cocoon http://reflectingonthevicissitudes.wordpress.com/
Cocoon website urls
I know that this has been discussed in the past, but nevertheless do we really think that urls like http://cocoon.apache.org/2.2/1290_1_1.html are suited for a top web framework of the 21st century? 1290_1_1 has absolutely no meaning. So what can be done about it? Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]