Re: Creating an ASF Project Game Application ?

[Lefty Leverenz]

> Select "Show logos with blurred text” on the first page and you’ll get
exactly that.

I must be blind.  Much more challenging.

Thanks, Justin.

-- Lefty


On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > But it's too easy when the project's name is in its logo.  Some could be
> > blurred out, but some are essential to the logo.
>
> Select "Show logos with blurred text” on the first page and you’ll get
> exactly that.
>
> Thanks for taking a look.
>
> Justin

Re: Creating an ASF Project Game Application ?

[Lefty Leverenz]

Fun!

But it's too easy when the project's name is in its logo.  Some could be
blurred out, but some are essential to the logo.

Typo alert on the game page:  "it's" means it is and "its" is the
possessive form, as illustrated in the previous paragraph.

*Mnemonic:*  "his hers its" are all possessives and don't need apostrophes.
 (Also ours, yours, theirs, and whose.)

Yeah, English has weird rules.

-- Lefty


On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Pierre Smits 
wrote:

> Hey Justin,
>
> Thank you for referencing my fork. ;)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM 
> OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OEM - The OFBiz Extensions Marketplace1
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> 1 not affiliated to (and not endorsed by) the OFBiz project
>
> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Justin Mclean 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > The output is entirety client side HTML / JS so it’s already “HTML5”.
> >
> > BTW here in all its JS ugliness [1]. The debug version is easier to work
> > with :-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
> > 1. https://github.com/PierreSmits/ApacheLogos/blob/
> > master/compiled/GuessLogo.js
> > -
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> >
> >
>

Re: Apache Community Card Volunteers Needed

[Lefty Leverenz]

I'd like to test this too.  What's the link to the platform?

-- Lefty Leverenz



On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Branko Čibej  wrote:

> On 15.11.2017 16:39, Sharan Foga wrote:
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > I am looking for a few volunteers to help me test the new Apache
> Community Card ordering platform. As a reminder the business card format
> looks like this:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/
> attachments/74685392/Apache%20Community%20Card%20-%20generic.pdf?api=v2
> >
> > If you would like to order business cards based on this format then
> please respond to this thread and I'll send you out a link to the platform.
> Ideally I would like to get feedback on the process, ease of use and any
> problems encountered.
> >
> > Once we're happy that everything is working properly, we can communicate
> it on a larger scale to all our committers and projects.
>
> I tried to order business cards from the EU site. Editing the card
> template is nice. However ... MOO doesn't want to accept my credit card.
> That's kind of ... strange? ... as I haven't had that problem anywhere
> else.
>
> -- Brane
>
>
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>

Re: Eric Keefe

[Lefty Leverenz]

Another good way to get started is by working on the documentation.

When you use the software, you'll probably find shortcomings in the
documentation.  Researching doc fixes often involves reading parts of the
code.  And making a contribution, however small, is a great motivator.

-- Lefty Leverenz


On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Bill Cole <
sa-bugz-20080...@billmail.scconsult.com> wrote:

> On 15 Oct 2017, at 23:41, Eric Keefe wrote:
>
> Dear Apache,
>>
>> I’m a junior a Willamette University looking to gain more experience
>> developing projects (for free). I attached my resume which outlines my
>> current experience.
>>
>
> The resume did not get through, which I believe is because the mailing
> list software is configured to strip off attachments.
>
> But that doesn't really matter: contributing to an Apache project isn't
> like getting a job.
>
> All of the open source projects look interesting. How can I apply to work
>> on one of these projects?
>>
>
> The short version: just start doing it. Really, it's that simple to get
> started and you can pick up on the subtleties as you go. The code for all
> projects is readily available and with the exception of open security
> issues, the issues that need to be worked on are also open to anyone to see
> and work on.
>
> The canonical starting point is this page: https://community.apache.org/n
> ewcomers/index.html
> There's also the Help Wanted site: https://helpwanted.apache.org
>
> In my personal opinion it is helpful to get involved as a contributor by
> starting as a user. No one except you can make you put some time into
> working on an open source project. If you USE the software you choose to
> contribute to, you're more likely to stick with contributing to it because
> you want it to be better.
>
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>
>

Re: Last Word Loses

[Lefty Leverenz]

"Last "!

😉

-- Lefty


On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:41 AM, Matt Morris  wrote:

> lol, do acronyms count?
>
> ,
> MMM
>
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Marvin Humphrey 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello ComDev,
> >
> > I'd like to play a game with you: The one who sends the last email on
> > this thread loses.
> >
> > "Last Word Loses" is a construct I use to break vicious cycles.  Perhaps
> > some of you will find it useful.
> >
> > I hope that this thread will be short.  Ideally no one will reply.  But
> > even if someone does, I trust that my message will have reached those it
> > needed to reach.
> >
> > And now, as the one who insisted on having the last word, I lose.
> >
> > Marvin Humphrey
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
> >
> >
>

Re: reporter.apache.org off-by-one

[Lefty Leverenz]

Is this a timezone problem?

-- Lefty

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:48 PM, Christopher  wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 7:19 PM sebb  wrote:
>
> > On 6 September 2016 at 23:38, Christopher  wrote:
> > > Why does reporter use 1 day earlier than JIRA when I use the "Fetch
> > > releases from JIRA" feature?
> >
> > What exactly do you mean by that?
> >
>
> What I mean is that when I put the release date in JIRA as 06/Sep/2016, and
> then use the sync feature in reporter.apache.org, the one in reporter
> shows
> Mon Sep 05 2016, which is one day earlier than what is stored in JIRA. It
> does this for all the releases.
>

Re: Overlapping role descriptions

[Lefty Leverenz]

Pierre, although your new descriptions make sense I still prefer the
originals.  Projects have separate mailing lists for developers and users,
so people need to understand the difference.  And users can contribute too.

Perhaps a third description for "contributor" could clarify the overlap.

-- Lefty

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:57 AM, Pierre Smits 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> At http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles we have
> descriptions for the user and the developer roles. But the descriptions are
> overlapping.
>
> For *user* we have:
>
> A *user* is someone that uses our software. They contribute to the Apache
> projects by providing feedback to developers in the form of bug reports and
> feature suggestions. Users participate in the Apache community by helping
> other users on mailing lists and user support forums.
>
> And for *developer* we have:
>
>
> A *developer* is a user who contributes to a project in the form of code or
> documentation. They take extra steps to participate in a project, are
> active on the developer mailing list, participate in discussions, provide
> patches, documentation, suggestions, and criticism. Developers are also
> known as *contributors* .
>
>
> Better would be to change the *user* definition to:
>
> A user is a person or organisation experiencing a benefit from
> the contributions made to the ASF in general or a project in particular.
>
> And the *developer* definition should be removed and replaced with a
> *contributor* definition:
>
> A contributor is a person who contributes to a project of the ASF and
> therefore to the ASF. Contributions are (but not limited to) participations
> in mailing lists, conferences, providing improvements to code,
> documentation, supplying suggestions and criticism to further the project
> in particular and the ASF in general.
>
> Recognised contributors are contributors who have also a signed Contributor
> License Agreement (CLA)  on file.
>
>
> Both new descriptions remove the ambiguity regarding using and contributing
> from the old descriptions, and the new one for contributor feeds into the
> diversity aspect.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace*
> http://oem.ofbizci.net
>

Re: Unable to find bug tracker list

[Lefty Leverenz]

Prakaskh (and Prashant), each project has a mailing list archive
<http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/>.  You can browse old messages
or check whether any new messages have arrived since you joined the list.

-- Lefty


On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Yash Sharma  wrote:

> Hi Prashant Tyagi,
> Adding you to this mail list since you have similar questions.
>
> Do not hesitate to ask other questions, someone will always be around to
> answer. And pardon us for late answers; everyone dedicates personal hours
> for community and sometimes we miss couple of threads.
>
> Good luck.
>
> - Via mobile. Excuse brevity.
> On 13 Sep 2015 4:31 pm, "Yash Sharma"  wrote:
>
> > Hi Prakash,
> > 1. As a starting point your java knowledge should be good enough since
> > most of the projects have newbie/trivial tasks which you can pick up.
> > However the sooner you start understanding the project the easier it
> would
> > be for you to pick up critical and interesting tasks. Most projects also
> > entertain contributions as docs which should be a good starting point as
> > well.
> >
> > 2. Users and Dev list should again be good to start with. If you have not
> > got any mails that just means there is no conversation going on and
> people
> > are enjoying the weekend.
> >
> > Having said that, enjoy working on project of your choice and drop a note
> > in case you stumble upon any issues.
> >
> > Happy Coding!
> >
> > - Via mobile. Excuse brevity.
> > On 13 Sep 2015 10:39 am, "B Prakash"  wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks again Lefty for the info.  I followed the links and got lot more
> >> information.  I am interested in few projects but wanted to know two
> more
> >> things;
> >> 1.  Can I contribute to a project if I just know the programming
> language
> >> well (Say Java), and not know much about the project (Say Cassandra)?
> >> 2.  I see that there are 4 mailing lists 'Users, Developers, Committers,
> >> client library'.  I subscribed to Developers list, I got a confirmation
> >> that my id has been subscribed, but haven't received any mail.  Is this
> the
> >> mailing list I need to watch if I want to start contributing?
> >> Thanks and regards
> >> Prakaskh.
> >> 
> >> From: B Prakash 
> >> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 2:42 AM
> >> To: dev@community.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Unable to find bug tracker list
> >>
> >> Hi Lefty, this helps, thank you :-)
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: Lefty Leverenz 
> >> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 2:40 AM
> >> To: dev@community.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Unable to find bug tracker list
> >>
> >> Prakash, you can find the bug tracker for each project by following
> links
> >> in the projects directory (https://projects.apache.org/projects.html).
> >>
> >> For example, if you were interested in the Hive project you could scroll
> >> down the list of projects to find Apache Hive and follow this link:
> >> Apache
> >> Hive <https://projects.apache.org/project.html?hive>.  The project page
> >> has
> >> a Development section that includes "Bug-tracking" which gives this link
> >> to
> >> the Hive JIRA:
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE.  The Summary page has a
> menu
> >> on
> >> the left, and Issues
> >> <
> >>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:issues-panel
> >> >
> >> is
> >> the first item in the menu.
> >>
> >> Other projects use Bugzilla instead of JIRA.  For example, see the
> Apache
> >> Ant page <https://projects.apache.org/project.html?ant>.
> >>
> >> You can also reach bug trackers from the individual project home pages,
> >> which are easy to find with any search engine, but they may use
> different
> >> names (Hive says "Issue Tracking" and Ant says "Bug Database") and the
> >> links will be in different places on the home page, so I recommend using
> >> the project list as described above.
> >>
> >> Thank you for your interest in contributing.
> >>
> >> -- Lefty Leverenz
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 1:58 AM, B Prakash  wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello,
> >> >
> >> >
> 

Re: Unable to find bug tracker list

[Lefty Leverenz]

Prakash, you can find the bug tracker for each project by following links
in the projects directory (https://projects.apache.org/projects.html).

For example, if you were interested in the Hive project you could scroll
down the list of projects to find Apache Hive and follow this link:  Apache
Hive <https://projects.apache.org/project.html?hive>.  The project page has
a Development section that includes "Bug-tracking" which gives this link to
the Hive JIRA:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE.  The Summary page has a menu on
the left, and Issues
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:issues-panel>
is
the first item in the menu.

Other projects use Bugzilla instead of JIRA.  For example, see the Apache
Ant page <https://projects.apache.org/project.html?ant>.

You can also reach bug trackers from the individual project home pages,
which are easy to find with any search engine, but they may use different
names (Hive says "Issue Tracking" and Ant says "Bug Database") and the
links will be in different places on the home page, so I recommend using
the project list as described above.

Thank you for your interest in contributing.

-- Lefty Leverenz


On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 1:58 AM, B Prakash  wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>  I am interested in contributing to ASF.  Though I have been thinking
> about it for a while I got the time only now.  I have been going through
> the site looking for bugs list as stated in the ASF 'Where do I start' page
> ie 101.html but I couldnt find it please help.  Following is the section in
> the page that points to bugs list.
>
>
> "If you are trying to satisfy a specific technical problem then you
> already know what you want to work on, but if you are looking for something
> useful to do in order to participate in an ASF project then the projects
> issue/bug tracker is your friend (this will be linked from the projects
> home page or from its entry on the projects page linked above).
>
> In the projects issue tracker you will find details of bugs and feature
> requests the project would like to work with, this should give you some
> inspiration about how you might be able to help the project community. If
> you are looking for a beginner level issue try searching JIRA for issues
> with the label "GSoC" or "mentor", these are issues the community feel are
> manageable for someone new to the ASF and their project. The community has
> also indicated that they are willing to help someone work on those issues
> through our mentoring program<
> https://community.apache.org/newbiefaq.html#NewbieFAQ-AbouttheApacheMentoringProgramme
> >.
>
> "
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Prakash
>

Re: Apache Reporter Service

[Lefty Leverenz]

> Any list containing either "commits", "private" or "security" is left out
of the generated report template for privacy and s2n ratio issues.

Makes sense, thanks for the explanation.

-- Lefty


On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Alex Harui  wrote:

> OK.  Thanks for the info.
>
> I might try subsetting the information to not grab the release info and
> run a job once a day to cache the latest for my project on some other
> server.  I’ll reply back on this thread if I ever get it working.
>
> -Alex
>
> On 7/16/15, 6:29 AM, "Rich Bowen"  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >On 05/01/2015 05:32 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
> >> This is a really cool service.  I noticed it wants login creds.  What
> >>data
> >> would have to be stripped in order to allow general public access?  What
> >> would it take to get the JSON for the public info?  I’ll write the
> >>client
> >> side in Apache Flex.
> >
> >In addition to Sebb's response, credentials are required in order to
> >reduce the size of the audience, and, thus, the load on the server.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
> >http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
>
>

Re: Apache Reporter Service

[Lefty Leverenz]

Question about the report template:  why doesn't it include the commits@
mailing list?  (Is that because JIRA activity already covers the number of
commits?)

Thanks.

-- Lefty



On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Alex Harui  wrote:

> This is a really cool service.  I noticed it wants login creds.  What data
> would have to be stripped in order to allow general public access?  What
> would it take to get the JSON for the public info?  I’ll write the client
> side in Apache Flex.
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> On 3/5/15, 1:39 AM, "Daniel Gruno"  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >On 2015-03-05 01:00, sebb wrote:
> >> On 4 March 2015 at 07:26, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 2015-03-04 01:29, sebb wrote:
>  The tool looks cool, but does not handle Apache Commons properly, as
>  it calls it "Apache Commons BeanUtils".
>  BeanUtils is just one of the Commons components (it seems to be
>  picking the first component alphabetically).
> >>> This was due to Commons not having any information on the base project
> >>> available in rdf/json, so the system picked what it thought looked
> >>>like a
> >>> winner. I have since changed it to just fetch the name from the PMC
> >>>data
> >>> instead.
> 
>  The JIRA release option does not work well for Commons.
>  Each component has a separate JIRA id, but the graph does not show
> the id.
>  There are other TLPs with multiple JIRA instances and release cycles,
>  for example Creadur
> >>> The JIRA stats are in their infancy still, I'll see if I can't make it
> >>>more
> >>> useful for Commons this week.
>  The JIRA release fetch tool does not report an error for an invalid
> JIRA
>  id.
> 
>  Note that all Commons JIRA ids are in the Category Commons; similarly
>  all Creadur instances are in the Category Creadur.
>  It would be really useful if the releases could be fetched using the
>  Category.
> 
>  I am on the PMC for Commons, JMeter and Creadur.
>  Only the JMeter display shows the chair person.
> >>> fixed for comons. As for Creadur, whenever someone creates a profile
> >>>for the
> >> How does one create profiles?
> >> Nothing obvious on the website.
> >
> >One clicks on the editor icon to the far right of the menu bar. UI
> >patches are most welcome :)
> >
> >>> project on projects-new.apache.org, the data will automatically start
> >> projects-new shows
> >>
> >> Apache Commons BeanUtils: 121 committers, 35 PMC members => sub-project
> >>
> >> It does not make sense to include sub-projects in the project list.
> >>
> >>
> >>> showing up on reporter.a.o.
> >> That seems to have been done.
> >> Might be useful to cross-link the two apps and provide some background
> >> docs on how to use them.
> >>
> 
>  It would be useful if ASF members could see the data for every PMC -
>  but obviously not update PMCs they are not associated with.
> >>> That is how it already is. Use the hot-link feature to access projects
> >>>you
> >>> are not on the PMC of, or use the 'statistics' link from Whimsy.
> >> What hot-link feature?
> >> I only see tabs for the 3 PMCs I am on.
> >
> >If you use the whimsy agenda browser, there is a link under info ->
> >statistics for each PMC that leads to reporter.apache.org and shows you
> >information about that PMC as well. You can also access this manually by
> >going to https://reporter.apache.org/?pmcid (where pmcid is the LDAP ID
> >of the PMC, for instance apr, httpd, sling, climate etc).
> >
> >With regards,
> >Daniel.
> >
> >>> With regards,
> >>> Daniel.
> >>>
> 
>  On 3 March 2015 at 10:50, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > as some of you will have noticed, either by the commits I just made
> >or
> > conversations going on elsewhere, I have started work on a new helper
> > system
> > for PMCs called the Apache Reporter Service. This is sort of an
> >external
> > addition to Whimsy, and shows various statistics and data for
> >projects,
> > designed to aid chairs (and other lurkers) in viewing and compiling
> >data
> > for
> > board reports.
> >
> > The system is now live at: https://reporter.apache.org - you will
> >need to
> > be
> > a PMC member of a project to view this site, and you will - in
> >general -
> > only be shown data for projects where you are on the PMC.
> >
> > The system will show you:
> > - Your next report date and the chair of the project
> > - PMC and committership changes over the past 3 months, as well as
> >latest
> > additions if >3 months ago
> > - The latest releases done this quarter (if added by RMs)
> > - Mailing list statistics: number of subscribers as well as number of
> > emails
> > sent this quarter and the previous
> > - JIRA tickets opened/closed this quarter (if correctly mapped
> >within the
> > system)
> > - A mock-up of a board report, with the above data compiled into it

Re: Subcribtion

[Lefty Leverenz]

Sorry, I mixed up my dev lists -- this isn't about Hive.

See http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html for general
information on how to unsubscribe from Apache mailing lists.

-- Lefty

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 12:21 AM, Lefty Leverenz 
wrote:

> If you're trying to subscribe to Hive's developer mailing list, send a
> message to dev-subscr...@hive.apache.org as described here:  Mailing Lists
> <http://hive.apache.org/mailing_lists.html>.
>
> -- Lefty
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 11:40 AM, marmar bossoni 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone 5
>
>
>

Re: Subcribtion

[Lefty Leverenz]

If you're trying to subscribe to Hive's developer mailing list, send a
message to dev-subscr...@hive.apache.org as described here:  Mailing Lists
.

-- Lefty

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 11:40 AM, marmar bossoni 
wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone 5

Re: Does apache have a forum?

[Lefty Leverenz]

You can find all the Apache projects here:  https://projects.apache.org.

-- Lefty

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Jeff Trawick  wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Ming Yu  wrote:
>
> > Hi,I have something technical to ask about the use of Apache and some
> > related tools, but I cannot find a forum.Does apache have a forum? Thank
> > you.
>
>
> Which Apache project?  (There are more than 100.)
>
> Generally, go to .apache.org and look for a link for mailing
> lists; you'll likely find a user support mailing list.
>
> (e.g., httpd.apache.org or tomcat.apache.org or hadoop.apache.org or ...)
>
>
> --
> Born in Roswell... married an alien...
> http://emptyhammock.com/
>

Re: Apache Reporter Service

[Lefty Leverenz]

Way cool!  I just tried "Fetch releases from JIRA" and now it shows Hive
releases starting with 0.3.0 in 2009.

One technical glitch, though:  release 0.9.0 is near the top of the y-axis
and then 0.10.0 drops down to the bottom.  After 0.14.0 there's a jump up
to the top with 1.0.0.

Apparently the release number is being treated as decimal notation.

-- Lefty

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:

>
> On 2015-03-04 00:04, Lefty Leverenz wrote:
>
>> Kudos, Daniel!  Great idea.
>>
>> Question 1:  How can RMs add release data if they aren't PMC members?
>>   (This might be answered by your most recent message.)
>>
> They can't, which is why the email sent to people that push to dist says
> to contact a PMC member to add a release.
> They can, if you use JIRA, push a release tag there and have a PMC just
> auto-update the lot once every quarter.
>
>>
>> Questions 2 & 3:  Do the chart timelines advance week-by-week or
>> month-by-month?  How often is the template refreshed?  The #emails sent
>> "in
>> the past 3 months" and "in the previous cycle" confused me -- does a cycle
>> mean a reporting cycle or just a moving 3-month period?
>>
> Charts advance weekly. The comparison is not related to the reporting
> cycle, but is always the past 3 months compared to the 3 before that.
> If you use the service a few days before submitting a board report, the
> data should be accurate :)
>
>>
>> As a longer-term suggestion, could the submitted reports get pumped back
>> into the Apache Reporter Service and displayed for public access, charts
>> and all?  'Cuz I'm naturally curious about other projects.
>>
> All board reports are public on the foundation web site already.
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
>  -- Lefty Leverenz
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Gruno 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 2015-03-03 23:09, Christopher wrote:
>>>
>>>  Pretty cool.
>>>>
>>>> A couple of suggestions:
>>>>
>>>> 1) if the release dates could be kept up-to-date from versions marked in
>>>> JIRA as "released" with a date (
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACCUMULO/?
>>>> selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:versions-panel),
>>>> that'd be really cool.
>>>>
>>>>  There is now a link called "Fetch releases from JIRA" which will fetch
>>> release info from there :)
>>>
>>> With regards,
>>> Daniel.
>>>
>>>
>>>  2) If the system could send a reminder about upcoming report deadlines,
>>>> that'd be cool, too (maybe even expose them as ical, so we can see them
>>>> in
>>>> any calendar app).
>>>>
>>>> 3) It'd be really neat if one could fill in the missing bits into a
>>>> field,
>>>> and click "submit" to email directly from the interface.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>>>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Daniel Gruno 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>>> as some of you will have noticed, either by the commits I just made or
>>>>> conversations going on elsewhere, I have started work on a new helper
>>>>> system for PMCs called the Apache Reporter Service. This is sort of an
>>>>> external addition to Whimsy, and shows various statistics and data for
>>>>> projects, designed to aid chairs (and other lurkers) in viewing and
>>>>> compiling data for board reports.
>>>>>
>>>>> The system is now live at: https://reporter.apache.org - you will need
>>>>> to
>>>>> be a PMC member of a project to view this site, and you will - in
>>>>> general -
>>>>> only be shown data for projects where you are on the PMC.
>>>>>
>>>>> The system will show you:
>>>>> - Your next report date and the chair of the project
>>>>> - PMC and committership changes over the past 3 months, as well as
>>>>> latest
>>>>> additions if >3 months ago
>>>>> - The latest releases done this quarter (if added by RMs)
>>>>> - Mailing list statistics: number of subscribers as well as number of
>>>>> emails sent this quarter and the previous
>>>>> -

Re: Apache Reporter Service

[Lefty Leverenz]

Kudos, Daniel!  Great idea.

Question 1:  How can RMs add release data if they aren't PMC members?
 (This might be answered by your most recent message.)

Questions 2 & 3:  Do the chart timelines advance week-by-week or
month-by-month?  How often is the template refreshed?  The #emails sent "in
the past 3 months" and "in the previous cycle" confused me -- does a cycle
mean a reporting cycle or just a moving 3-month period?

As a longer-term suggestion, could the submitted reports get pumped back
into the Apache Reporter Service and displayed for public access, charts
and all?  'Cuz I'm naturally curious about other projects.

-- Lefty Leverenz

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:

>
>
> On 2015-03-03 23:09, Christopher wrote:
>
>> Pretty cool.
>>
>> A couple of suggestions:
>>
>> 1) if the release dates could be kept up-to-date from versions marked in
>> JIRA as "released" with a date (
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACCUMULO/?
>> selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:versions-panel),
>> that'd be really cool.
>>
> There is now a link called "Fetch releases from JIRA" which will fetch
> release info from there :)
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
>
>> 2) If the system could send a reminder about upcoming report deadlines,
>> that'd be cool, too (maybe even expose them as ical, so we can see them in
>> any calendar app).
>>
>> 3) It'd be really neat if one could fill in the missing bits into a field,
>> and click "submit" to email directly from the interface.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Christopher L Tubbs II
>> http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Daniel Gruno 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Hi folks,
>>> as some of you will have noticed, either by the commits I just made or
>>> conversations going on elsewhere, I have started work on a new helper
>>> system for PMCs called the Apache Reporter Service. This is sort of an
>>> external addition to Whimsy, and shows various statistics and data for
>>> projects, designed to aid chairs (and other lurkers) in viewing and
>>> compiling data for board reports.
>>>
>>> The system is now live at: https://reporter.apache.org - you will need
>>> to
>>> be a PMC member of a project to view this site, and you will - in
>>> general -
>>> only be shown data for projects where you are on the PMC.
>>>
>>> The system will show you:
>>> - Your next report date and the chair of the project
>>> - PMC and committership changes over the past 3 months, as well as latest
>>> additions if >3 months ago
>>> - The latest releases done this quarter (if added by RMs)
>>> - Mailing list statistics: number of subscribers as well as number of
>>> emails sent this quarter and the previous
>>> - JIRA tickets opened/closed this quarter (if correctly mapped within the
>>> system)
>>> - A mock-up of a board report, with the above data compiled into it (to
>>> be
>>> edited heavily by the chair!)
>>>
>>> Quick-navigation (hot-links) can be done by using the LDAP name of a
>>> project in the URL, for instance: https://reporter.apache.org/?apr would
>>> navigate directly to the Apache Portable Runtime project if you are on
>>> that
>>> PMC (or a member of the foundation).
>>>
>>> The report mock-up is meant as a help only, not a canonical template for
>>> board reports. Vital items, such as community activity and board issues
>>> are
>>> intentionally left for the reporter (chair) to fill out, and heaven help
>>> the woman/man who submits a report with these fields left as default ;).
>>>
>>> Later today, I plan to enable the distribution watching part of this
>>> service, which will send reminders to anyone who pushes a release, that
>>> they should (not required, but if they want to!) add their release data
>>> to
>>> the system, so as to help others using the system to get an overview of
>>> the
>>> status of any given project.
>>>
>>> I have already gotten a lot of really useful feedback, but if you see
>>> something you'd like to change, either shoot me an email here on the
>>> comdev
>>> list, or commit a change to the system in svn.
>>>
>>> With regards,
>>> Daniel.
>>>
>>>
>

Re: A maturity model for Apache projects

[Lefty Leverenz]

Some trivial edits:

LC10
The code is released under the Apache License, version 2.0  <*needs
terminal period*>

QU20
The projects puts a very high priority on producing secure software.
<"project puts">

*Consensus building*   <"Consensus *B*uilding" to match init caps on
"License and Copyright">

*Optional:*  <*change " - " to " -- " in CS10 and RE40*>

*Utterly trivial:*  <*space before footnote 3 in RE10, or remove spaces
before all other footnotes*>


-- Lefty

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Justin Mclean 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > I thought that was part of the Open Source definition?
>
> Not quite (AFAIK), there's no royalties allowed on redistribution but that
> doesn't mean you can't charge for it either initially or when
> redistributing it as part of a bundle.
>
> "The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the
> software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing
> programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a
> royalty or other fee for such sale." [1]
>
> Perhaps change CD10 to this?
>
> The project produces royalty free Open Source software.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1.http://opensource.org/osd

Re: Some maturity model comments

[Lefty Leverenz]

Oh, duh, it's the maturity model.  Well, in context I found it confusing.

-- Lefty

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:22 AM, Lefty Leverenz 
wrote:

> In CO10, what does "according to this model" mean?
>
> *CO10*
>
> The project has a well-known homepage that points to all the information
>> required to operate according to this model.
>>
>
> If it means the Apache model, do most project home pages currently point
> to information about Apache operations?
>
> -- Lefty Leverenz
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Benson Margulies 
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Rob Vesse  wrote:
>> > LC50:
>> >
>> > I think the LC50 is actually correct but could perhaps be phrased better
>> >
>> > My understanding was that the ASF owns the copyright for the collective
>> > work of the project I.e. releases.  As Benson notes contributors retain
>> > copyright on their contributions but grant the ASF a perpetual license
>> to
>> > their contributions
>>
>> I think that the wording should be expanded to mention both aspects.
>>
>> >
>> > QU30:
>> >
>> > Agreed, some projects may not do anything that is attack prone or are
>> > likely only to be run such that any "security" is provided by whatever
>> > runtime they use and the security of that runtime is well beyond the
>> > purview of the project.
>> >
>> > Consensus building:
>> >
>> > Should there be a CS60 about the rare need for private discussions
>> >
>> > CS60:
>> >
>> > In rare situations (typically security, brand enforcement, legal and
>> > personnel discussions) the project may need to first reach consensus in
>> > private in which case the project should use their official private
>> > communications channel such that these rare private discussions are
>> > privately archived.  The outcomes of such consensus should where
>> possible
>> > be discussed in public as soon as it is appropriate to do so.
>> >
>> > That isn't great wording but hopefully you get what I am trying to
>> convey
>> > - projects should rarely discuss in private and any discussions should
>> > become public as soon as it is possible to do so
>> >
>> > Rob
>> >
>> > On 14/01/2015 15:33, "Benson Margulies"  wrote:
>> >
>> >>CD40: perhaps change 'previous version' to 'released version'
>> >>
>> >>CD50: the committer is not necessarily the author; someone might read
>> >>this and not understand what it implies for committers committing
>> >>contributions via all of the channels allowed for by the AL. One patch
>> >>would be 'immediate provenance', another would be some more lengthier
>> >>language about the process.
>> >>
>> >>LC20: do we need to explain what we mean by 'dependencies'? This has
>> >>been a point of friction. Expand or footnote to the distinctions
>> >>between essential and optional?
>> >>
>> >>LC50: the footnote seems wrong; the ASF does not own copyright,
>> >>rather, the author retains, and grants the license.
>> >>
>> >>RE40: do you want to add an explicit statement that legal
>> >>responsibility falls upon the head of the person who happened to run
>> >>the build?
>> >>
>> >>QU20: Maybe we need to expands on 'secure'? Maybe this is too strong?
>> >>What's wrong with building a product that is explicitly not intended
>> >>for use attack-prone environments.
>> >>
>> >>QU40: Not all communities might agree. Some communities might see
>> >>themselves as building fast-moving products. Some communities may lack
>> >>the level of volunteer effort required to satisfy this. Does this make
>> >>them immature, or just a group of volunteers with different
>> >>priorities?
>> >>
>> >>IN10: I fear that a more detailed definition of independence is going
>> >>to be called for here to avoid controversy.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: Some maturity model comments

[Lefty Leverenz]

In CO10, what does "according to this model" mean?

*CO10*

The project has a well-known homepage that points to all the information
> required to operate according to this model.
>

If it means the Apache model, do most project home pages currently point to
information about Apache operations?

-- Lefty Leverenz


On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Benson Margulies 
wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Rob Vesse  wrote:
> > LC50:
> >
> > I think the LC50 is actually correct but could perhaps be phrased better
> >
> > My understanding was that the ASF owns the copyright for the collective
> > work of the project I.e. releases.  As Benson notes contributors retain
> > copyright on their contributions but grant the ASF a perpetual license to
> > their contributions
>
> I think that the wording should be expanded to mention both aspects.
>
> >
> > QU30:
> >
> > Agreed, some projects may not do anything that is attack prone or are
> > likely only to be run such that any "security" is provided by whatever
> > runtime they use and the security of that runtime is well beyond the
> > purview of the project.
> >
> > Consensus building:
> >
> > Should there be a CS60 about the rare need for private discussions
> >
> > CS60:
> >
> > In rare situations (typically security, brand enforcement, legal and
> > personnel discussions) the project may need to first reach consensus in
> > private in which case the project should use their official private
> > communications channel such that these rare private discussions are
> > privately archived.  The outcomes of such consensus should where possible
> > be discussed in public as soon as it is appropriate to do so.
> >
> > That isn't great wording but hopefully you get what I am trying to convey
> > - projects should rarely discuss in private and any discussions should
> > become public as soon as it is possible to do so
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > On 14/01/2015 15:33, "Benson Margulies"  wrote:
> >
> >>CD40: perhaps change 'previous version' to 'released version'
> >>
> >>CD50: the committer is not necessarily the author; someone might read
> >>this and not understand what it implies for committers committing
> >>contributions via all of the channels allowed for by the AL. One patch
> >>would be 'immediate provenance', another would be some more lengthier
> >>language about the process.
> >>
> >>LC20: do we need to explain what we mean by 'dependencies'? This has
> >>been a point of friction. Expand or footnote to the distinctions
> >>between essential and optional?
> >>
> >>LC50: the footnote seems wrong; the ASF does not own copyright,
> >>rather, the author retains, and grants the license.
> >>
> >>RE40: do you want to add an explicit statement that legal
> >>responsibility falls upon the head of the person who happened to run
> >>the build?
> >>
> >>QU20: Maybe we need to expands on 'secure'? Maybe this is too strong?
> >>What's wrong with building a product that is explicitly not intended
> >>for use attack-prone environments.
> >>
> >>QU40: Not all communities might agree. Some communities might see
> >>themselves as building fast-moving products. Some communities may lack
> >>the level of volunteer effort required to satisfy this. Does this make
> >>them immature, or just a group of volunteers with different
> >>priorities?
> >>
> >>IN10: I fear that a more detailed definition of independence is going
> >>to be called for here to avoid controversy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: ApacheCon Schedule announced: Help still needed

[Lefty Leverenz]

Rules vary, but if you're capitalizing more than the first word then the
last word should be capitalized too, even if it's not usually capitalized.
 For example:  "A Discussion of When to Capitalize the Word The."

Here's a handy converter:  http://titlecapitalization.com/.  And here's a
short explanation:
http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/capitalization/rules-for-capitalization-in-titles.html
.

Use your favorite search engine for "capitalization rules titles" if you
want to delve into the exceptions and alternative rules.

-- Lefty


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Branko Čibej  wrote:

> On 25.07.2014 14:44, Mike Kienenberger wrote:
> > Inconsistent capitalization. I'd recommend changing titles to standard
> > capitalization rules.
>
> +1 to that. I had "fun" noticing that session titles that were already
> correctly capitalized in the submissions got mangled in the schedule.
>
> -- Brane
>
>

Re: Missing definition of hat in glossary

[Lefty Leverenz]

Do you mean this?
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/4743/origin-of-idiom-wearing-the-role-hat

-- Lefty


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Noah Slater  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I notice that "hat" is missing from the glossary. I can't find any
> other definitive definition of it on our website. I want to use it in
> some bylaws I'm drafting but was hoping to link through to something
> foundation-level to back up the section.
>
> Any clues?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Noah Slater
> https://twitter.com/nslater
>

Re: Clarifying the small events organizers requirements

[Lefty Leverenz]

This is off topic, but notice the 2013 copyright at the bottom of the page.
 Anyone know how to change that?

Little typo:  "c) Once brand use is approved by the respective PMCs, Inform
..." (lowercase inform).

-- Lefty


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:17 PM, jan i  wrote:

> On 13 March 2014 11:30, Bertrand Delacretaz 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Ross Gardler
> >  wrote:
> > > ...I suggest the text would be something like...
> >
> > This has been on my list for a looong time, I have now added the
> > http://community.apache.org/events/small-events.html page, with a link
> > to it in the "events & mentoring" section of
> > http://community.apache.org/
> >
>
> > Reviews and feedback are welcome.
> >
> it might be wise to have a c1) wait 72 hours for any comments.
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
>

Re: Edit the ApacheCon Banner on Website

[Lefty Leverenz]

I've had similar problems that turned out to be caching by my DSL provider
(Verizon).

-- Lefty


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Melissa Warnkin wrote:

> Hi Ted,
>
> Thank you for your email.  I cleared out the browser history and cache and
> can now see the Denver info on the projects page, but Portland is still on
> the people page.
>
> Since you can see it, I'm hoping it's just my browser!
>
> ~M
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Ted Dunning 
> To: "dev@community.apache.org" ; Melissa
> Warnkin 
> Cc: Bertrand Delacretaz ; Mark Thomas <
> ma...@apache.org>; "infrastructure-priv...@apache.org" <
> infrastructure-priv...@apache.org>; Rich Bowen ;
> Melissa Warnkin ; Ross Gardler 
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Edit the ApacheCon Banner on Website
>
>
>
> I see Denver.
>
>
> Probably you have some browser caching issues and aren't really seeing the
> current state of the page.  It is also possible that there is caching in
> the network somewhere and a significant number of people are seeing the old
> content.
>
> Can you force a complete reload of the page?  If you have more than one
> browser on your machine, you might try with the less used one.
>
> If you have done that recently and still see the problem, then debugging
> further will require knowing quite a bit more about what is happening in
> your browser.
>
> This debugging starts with browser version info and some detailed
> information about your network location, but then you will need to figure
> out exactly whether your browser is trying to load the right version of the
> page and if so exactly where it is trying to get it from.  But try the
> reload or off-axis browser first.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Melissa Warnkin 
> wrote:
>
> Well I have no idea what's going on, but I'm still seeing Portland!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Bertrand Delacretaz 
> >To: dev ; Melissa Warnkin <
> missywarn...@yahoo.com>
> >Cc: Mark Thomas ; "infrastructure-priv...@apache.org" <
> infrastructure-priv...@apache.org>; Rich Bowen ;
> Melissa Warnkin ; Ross Gardler 
> >Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:08 AM
> >Subject: Re: Edit the ApacheCon Banner on Website
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Melissa Warnkin 
> wrote:
> >> While I appreciate your efforts tremendously, I hate to tell you that
> it's still showing Portland. :(...
> >
> >I have now fixed Mark's fix of my fix in the projects/html/pa/pa.json
> file ;-)
> >
> >Right now http://projects.apache.org/ shows no ad and it should show
> >Denver in a few hours.
> >
> >
> >-Bertrand
>

Re: New Committer Orientation

[Lefty Leverenz]

Why isn't party@ included in the
archives under
the ASF-wide lists section?  (Presumably it means pa...@apache.org, but
that wasn't obvious on the
incubatorpage so I
didn't join the list when I became a committer.)

Where can I find a list of *all* Apache mailing lists, if not in the
archives?

Anyway, a quick & dirty fix is to link each of those pages to the other
two.  Also add a pointer to the ASF-wide section at the top of the archives
page, because it's buried below the first screenful of lists.

-- Lefty


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Rich Bowen  wrote:
> > Do we have a page somewhere for New Committer Orientation? I ask because
> I
> > just mentioned the party@ list to someone and got a virtual blank
> stare
>
> Not one page...*three* (sigh) :
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/new-committers-guide.html
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/committer.html
> http://community.apache.org/committers/
>
> the second one does mention pa...@...but best is probably to merge all
> three if someone has the cycles.
>
> -Bertrand
>