Re: SourceForge and commercial ads - continued

2014-12-11 Thread Roberto Galoppini
Just realised I forgot to mention we have removed that in the very same
day. Thanks for heads up.

Roberto

2014-12-09 15:44 GMT+01:00 FR web forum :

> See today: http://hpics.li/5e52083
> This ad go to h**p://maribiz.net
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Re: SourceForge and commercial ads - continued

2014-12-09 Thread FR web forum
See today: http://hpics.li/5e52083
This ad go to h**p://maribiz.net

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Re: SourceForge and commercial ads - continued

2014-11-21 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-11-21 7:55 GMT+01:00 Fernando Cassia :

> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually none of our direct advertisers ask us to deliver similar ads,
> nor
> > we would allow them to do that.
> > Unfortunately advertising networks like Google allow that to happen, and
> > that's where the problem comes from.
> >
>
> Thanks for the info. At least we know who to blame.
> I wrote the above under the assumption that Sourceforge ran its own online
> adverts network.
>

I was just providing some context, we are responsible for what is displayed
on our site, no matter how ads get there.

I'm happy to tell you that our AdOps have been doing a great job over the
last days, identifying new approaches that so far are working fine. We're
reviewing daily what is displayed on openoffice pages and we'll keep a
close eye on this matter.

Thanks,

Roberto




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Re: SourceForge and commercial ads - continued

2014-11-20 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually none of our direct advertisers ask us to deliver similar ads, nor
> we would allow them to do that.
> Unfortunately advertising networks like Google allow that to happen, and
> that's where the problem comes from.
>

Thanks for the info. At least we know who to blame.
I wrote the above under the assumption that Sourceforge ran its own online
adverts network.

FC


Re: SourceForge and commercial ads - continued

2014-11-20 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014-11-19 19:00 GMT+01:00 Fernando Cassia :

> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Bernard Marcelly <
> marce...@club-internet.fr
> > wrote:
>
> > I see a blue square indicated : updatechecker.
> > When I click it I get another panel from http://www.marbiz.net saying
> (in
> > french) :
> >   Searching for OpenOffice latest version
> >   Download button
> > And then the Conditions :
> > chapter 0. Objet: services offered by FULLTIME NETWORKS LIMITED., adresse
> > 2 Martin House, 179-181 North End Road, Londres W14 9NL, Reino Unido
>

This has been removed yesterday, couple of hours after I've read this.


>
>
> IMHO this needs to stop. It should be something as simple as a section in
> the SourceForge terms of service for its advertisers banning adverts that
> impersonate or mention FOSS projects hosted on sourceforge.net, maybe
> adding something about "deceptive advertising" or "deceptive clicking".
>


Actually none of our direct advertisers ask us to deliver similar ads, nor
we would allow them to do that.
Unfortunately advertising networks like Google allow that to happen, and
that's where the problem comes from.
This week we removed three deceptive ads coming that way, but since those
advertising networks do not provide much control over the type/content of
displayed ads. We're now talking to their accounts to identify a better
approach.




>
> I mean it´s one thing to offer an "OpenOffice add-on" and another entirely
> to offer an AOO download from an external site.
>
> If SourceForge doesn´t put an end to this, they´re willing accomplices and
> are hurting AOO with full knowledge.
>

I can tell that from our GM down fixing this is a top priority, as usual
I'll let facts talk.

Roberto




>
> Just my $0.02
> FC
>
>
> --
> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
> act
> Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto
> Revolucionario
> - George Orwell
>


Re: SourceForge and commercial ads - continued

2014-11-19 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Bernard Marcelly  wrote:

> I see a blue square indicated : updatechecker.
> When I click it I get another panel from http://www.marbiz.net saying (in
> french) :
>   Searching for OpenOffice latest version
>   Download button
> And then the Conditions :
> chapter 0. Objet: services offered by FULLTIME NETWORKS LIMITED., adresse
> 2 Martin House, 179-181 North End Road, Londres W14 9NL, Reino Unido
>

IMHO this needs to stop. It should be something as simple as a section in
the SourceForge terms of service for its advertisers banning adverts that
impersonate or mention FOSS projects hosted on sourceforge.net, maybe
adding something about "deceptive advertising" or "deceptive clicking".

I mean it´s one thing to offer an "OpenOffice add-on" and another entirely
to offer an AOO download from an external site.

If SourceForge doesn´t put an end to this, they´re willing accomplices and
are hurting AOO with full knowledge.

Just my $0.02
FC


-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto
Revolucionario
- George Orwell


SourceForge and commercial ads - continued

2014-11-19 Thread Bernard Marcelly

Hello again,
Two days later the questionable ads are still there, with a variant.

I see a blue square indicated : updatechecker.
When I click it I get another panel from http://www.marbiz.net saying (in 
french) :
  Searching for OpenOffice latest version
  Download button
And then the Conditions :
chapter 0. Objet: services offered by FULLTIME NETWORKS LIMITED., adresse 2 
Martin House, 179-181 North End Road, Londres W14 9NL, Reino Unido
chapter 1. Service Premium : Les frais de service s'élèvera à 4.50 Eur par code 
+ prix sms.


SourceForge intentionally delays the real download by 5 seconds, letting the 
abused surfer the time to click on a paying service which has IMHO unacceptable 
conditions (read them).


Please, reply directly to the mailing list, not me, else the thread does not 
appear on archivers GMane and Mail Archive.


  Bernard


Date:   Nov 17, 2014 9:11:38 am
List:   org.apache.incubator.ooo-dev

The above mentioned ads has been removed from the catalog, it will disappear in 
the next hour. Sorry for the inconvenience, I've asked our AdOps team to put a 
tighter control on ads.

Roberto


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