Starting a SIG for package reviews

2011-07-26 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
For a while now I've wanted to get some sort of package review SIG
going.  The package review process hasn't really evolved much since it
was instituted way back when, and now it (and the portion of the
sponsorship process it overlaps) has become a major bottleneck in one of
the main ways of getting new contributors into the project.

I'm (once again*) looking for a few good volunteers to get the SIG off
the ground.  In the past every discussion about starting this SIG has
sidetracked off into grand discussion about tools that can take care of
the process, but at the start I'd like to focus on organization.  How
many people can we muster?  Do we need to have some sort of regular IRC
meetings?  How can we best attack the ever-growing review queue?

Once we have some basic things figured out and reasonable-sized group of
people involved, we can move on to the big issues of policies,
modifications to the process, working with FESCo and, yes, tools.

So, if you want to help out, feel free to reply.  Add yourself to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Package_Review#Members if you like.
If you have ideas, add them to the brainstorming section there as well.


*) Yes, I've tried to do this before, a good three years ago.  It didn't
 get off the ground then, but it's never too late to try again and the
 need for this SIG is, I think, more pressing now than it's ever been.

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Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 07:07 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote:
> On 07/26/2011 02:15 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 07:24 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote:
> >
> >> should not be surprised that you see resistance (what new capability does 
> >> NFS
> >> get from the systemd changes for example!).
> > reliable on-demand automounting, for a start. for which you already owe
> > Lennart about three kegs of beer, by my calculation. =)
> >
> > (try 'noauto,comment=systemd.automount' as mount parameters for an NFS
> > share)
> 
> We track autofs issues for fedora, upstream and RHEL and seems to work well 
> in 
> the field.
> 
> What specifically does systemd do that autofs does not do without it?

I don't know if there is anything, but it's neat to get something like
this 'free' with systemd, without having to add any other package.
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Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 08:45 -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: 
> On 07/26/2011 08:36 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> > On 07/26/2011 08:03 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> >> 26.07.2011, 18:34, "Andrew Haley":
> >>> On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> >>>
>    Since F15 ~/bin has been added to PATH, and commands that are
>    supposed to run user scripts will work without changing into that
>    directory. Meanwhile, ~/.local/bin isn't used. I'd like to propose
>    that it is also added because technically it is ~/bin's brother.
> >>>
> >>> I've never heard of ~/.local/bin .  Are there many people who use
> >>> this?  ~/bin is common.
> >>
> >> ~/.local/bin has been there by default.
> >>
> >> Unlike ~/bin, which is in PATH though not even created.
> >>
> >
> >Where in the path do the user 'bin' elements appear in the path?
> 
> In /etc/skel/.bash_profile they are added to the end and I think that is ok
> 
> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin
> 
> Never knew about ~/.local/bin my .bash_profile is really old from the 
> time where the default was only ~/bin

Can someone explain (or point to) the rationale appending these to PATH
rather than prepending them?  I would have expected user binaries to
supersede system ones.

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 branch today

2011-07-26 Thread Adam Williamson
Just a heads-up to let everyone know that Fedora 16 is now branched from
Rawhide. This means that we're now into the phase where pre-Beta
requirements for updates apply (see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy): updates-testing is in
effect for F16, so if you're running F16, remember to start firing up
Bodhi and fedora-easy-karma and submitting karma from now on! Thanks,
everyone.
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Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Misha Shnurapet
27.07.2011, 10:17, "Chris Adams" :
> I've used ~/bin since before Linux was available, so I don't really see
> the point in trying to "hide" it (of course, I alias ls to "ls -FCA", so
> ~/.bin wouldn't be hidden, just one extra character to type when I need
> to access it).

Noone has asked to "hide it". :-) The proposal here is that both paths are 
included in $PATH by default. Your personal preference won't be hurt. In fact, 
it's a different story.

27.07.2011, 01:49, "Richard W.M. Jones" :
>>  PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin
>
> This was added between bash-4.2.10 -2 and -3:

I did a fresh install of F15 in the late May, and it's not there.

27.07.2011, 04:15, "Chris Adams" :
> IMHO adding directories to the default path should get a little more
> discussion than a single BZ request (and probably shouldn't be changed
> mid-release without notice).

Yes! Fedora *is* a place to do mid-release changes.

A notice, however, must be issued on critical changes (which is not the case 
here).

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Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Matej Cepl  said:
> Dne 26.7.2011 20:40, Bernd Stramm napsal(a):
> > Oh it seems every useful for purposes like installing executables that
> > most users will never find.
> 
> Actually I would prefer ~/.local/bin to ~/bin ... I actually use ~/ as
> my workspace (I never got what's the point of  ~/Desktop) so I don't
> want to dump there a random junk. Until now I used ~/.bin but
> standadized location would be certainly better.

I've used ~/bin since before Linux was available, so I don't really see
the point in trying to "hide" it (of course, I alias ls to "ls -FCA", so
~/.bin wouldn't be hidden, just one extra character to type when I need
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Naming

2011-07-26 Thread Nathan Owens
I am probably going to try and package Peerguardian, and the question is 
what should I name it, because the tarball is named pgl_noGUI. should I 
name it pgl, pgl_nogui, pgl-console or possibly just peerguardian?

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Re: Meeting minutes/summary for 2011-07-25 FESCo meeting

2011-07-26 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/25/2011 06:37 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 07/25/2011 06:22 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>>   * need to get audidt #617321  iscsi #714688  NFS-Utils #699040
>>  Tigervnc #717227 dnsmasq #694932 openvpn #714710 speech-dispatcherd
>>  #697600 smolt #697612 wpa_supplicant #661230 done before next
>>  tuesday if at all possible.  (nirik, 17:33:05)

I finished providing spec file ( Toshio requested that to speed up the 
process and at the same time reduce the work load for proven packgagers 
) patches and unit files to all of the nonresponsive pacages today along 
with those that do not follow guidelines for either the maintainer 
themselves, proven packager or fesco members to review and package the 
component ( needs to be package before what this thursday? ) should it 
come to that to prevent those components blocking the alpha release.

dnsmasq #694932 ( unresponsive maintainer contains unit and spec file 
patch )
openvpn #714710  ( unresponsive maintainer contains unit and spec file 
patch )

wpa_supplicant #661230 ( Dan mentioned he was going to take of this  
contains already accepted unit and a spec file patch )

# Already shipping unit files but dont follow packaging guidelines

avahi #714649 ( Lennart had mentioned that he take care of this and had 
a spec file )
dbus #697523 has spec file patch
gpm #716984 has spec file patch

There is no need to host any special FAD for this to be completed in 
time Audit got finished today ( Core DONE ) along with speech-dispacherd 
and Will just dropped that useless legacy sysv init script in smolt.

Toshio already took care of one unresponsive maintainers package today ( 
the speech package ) and it took him <10min to review with the provided 
spec file patch and unit and commit the changes so that's 60 mins max 
for a single indvidual for the above packages or 10 ten minutes total 
for 6 indviduals.

# Item currently being work on but should be done before the end of the week

Nfs-utils #699040
Tigervnc #717227

So the only remaining potential blocker is.

Iscsi #714688

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Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:46:30PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> If restarting sshd kills the sshs sessions then my guess is that
> pam_systemd is not enabled (or somehow failing) and hence user sessions
> stay members of the sshd cgroup instead of getting their own.

Lennart, is pam_systemd a requirement for the old behavior?

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Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 26.7.2011 20:40, Bernd Stramm napsal(a):
> Oh it seems every useful for purposes like installing executables that
> most users will never find.

Actually I would prefer ~/.local/bin to ~/bin ... I actually use ~/ as
my workspace (I never got what's the point of  ~/Desktop) so I don't
want to dump there a random junk. Until now I used ~/.bin but
standadized location would be certainly better.

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Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 26.07.11 17:16, James Antill (ja...@fedoraproject.org) wrote:

> > Perhaps it's because in %postun it has "systemctl try-restart
> > sshd.service" where it used to have "service sshd condrestart", and
> > systemd kills all running sshd processes whereas the old one only
> > killed the main one and not the children?
> 
>  It looks more like the first victim of systemd using cgroups as a
> replacement for setsid() etc. ... pam_systemd being the first return
> volley in that war. *sigh*.

systemd is not using cgroups as replacement for setsid().

If restarting sshd kills the sshs sessions then my guess is that
pam_systemd is not enabled (or somehow failing) and hence user sessions
stay members of the sshd cgroup instead of getting their own.

When you log in via ssh, and do "cat /proc/self/cgroup", in which cgroup
does your login shell appear to be running? (look for the name=systemd
line).

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Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:24:58PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On 7/26/11 1:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this list:
> > Subject: rpm builds failing with "Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found"
> 
> I thought there was a hard rule about not having nvrs go backwards, and 
> if a bad build was put out, it should be fixed with epoch or other such 
> NVR things to make sure the upgrade path continues.  (that is once a 
> build makes it out in the nightly repos)
> 
Yep.  You are correct.  If I'm doing proper forensics of fesco meeting notes
and tickets and google searches of the wiki, this policy was approved twice
by fesco but didn't get documented either time:

https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/96
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SteeringCommittee/Meeting-20090313

The original proposal fell out of the no frozen rawhide FAD if I remember
correctly.

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Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 21:28 +0100, Paul Howarth wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:13:59 -0400
> Dave Jones  wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 06:22:50PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote:
> >  > FYI, I've just yum-updated my rawhide VM to the latest
> >  > (but not from the console) and was surprised to lose the connection
> >  > while it was happening.  Again.  It happened to me last week, too.
> >  > 
> >  > I got back in via the console and tried to reinstall it via "yum
> >  > reinstall openssh-server".  That failed (sorry, didn't record the
> >  > diagnostic).
> >  > 
> >  > Just dug a little and found this was reported a week ago:
> >  > 
> >  >http://bugzilla.redhat.com/722625
> > 
> > It bit me again yesterday, this time while in a screen session
> > (I thought I'd learn from the earlier mistake). When I logged back in,
> > somehow the screen session had vanished.
> > 
> > This behaviour from sshd is pretty nasty. I don't recall it ever
> > doing this before on updates, so why does it start doing it now ?
> > 
> > arguably that bz should be reassigned to sshd, as that's the root
> > cause for yum freaking out.
> 
> Perhaps it's because in %postun it has "systemctl try-restart
> sshd.service" where it used to have "service sshd condrestart", and
> systemd kills all running sshd processes whereas the old one only
> killed the main one and not the children?

 It looks more like the first victim of systemd using cgroups as a
replacement for setsid() etc. ... pam_systemd being the first return
volley in that war. *sigh*.

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Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 13:24 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: 
> On 7/26/11 1:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this list:
> > Subject: rpm builds failing with "Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found"
> 
> I thought there was a hard rule about not having nvrs go backwards, and 
> if a bad build was put out, it should be fixed with epoch or other such 
> NVR things to make sure the upgrade path continues.  (that is once a 
> build makes it out in the nightly repos)

I do not think it was so hard rule for rawhide - it depended on various
things whether it was needed or not.
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Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Paul Howarth
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:13:59 -0400
Dave Jones  wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 06:22:50PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote:
>  > FYI, I've just yum-updated my rawhide VM to the latest
>  > (but not from the console) and was surprised to lose the connection
>  > while it was happening.  Again.  It happened to me last week, too.
>  > 
>  > I got back in via the console and tried to reinstall it via "yum
>  > reinstall openssh-server".  That failed (sorry, didn't record the
>  > diagnostic).
>  > 
>  > Just dug a little and found this was reported a week ago:
>  > 
>  >http://bugzilla.redhat.com/722625
> 
> It bit me again yesterday, this time while in a screen session
> (I thought I'd learn from the earlier mistake). When I logged back in,
> somehow the screen session had vanished.
> 
> This behaviour from sshd is pretty nasty. I don't recall it ever
> doing this before on updates, so why does it start doing it now ?
> 
> arguably that bz should be reassigned to sshd, as that's the root
> cause for yum freaking out.

Perhaps it's because in %postun it has "systemctl try-restart
sshd.service" where it used to have "service sshd condrestart", and
systemd kills all running sshd processes whereas the old one only
killed the main one and not the children?

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Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On 7/26/11 1:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this list:
> Subject: rpm builds failing with "Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found"

I thought there was a hard rule about not having nvrs go backwards, and 
if a bad build was put out, it should be fixed with epoch or other such 
NVR things to make sure the upgrade path continues.  (that is once a 
build makes it out in the nightly repos)

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Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Michael Schwendt  wrote:
> Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this list:
> Subject: rpm builds failing with "Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found"

Thanks for the replies, Tomas and Michael.  I somehow missed the part
where I needed to downgrade rpm.
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Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:59:51 -0600, JJ (Jerry) wrote:

> I just did a "package-cleanup --orphans" on my Rawhide machine to see
> which of the just-blocked packages are installed there.  To my
> surprise, I got this:
> 
> # package-cleanup --orphans
> Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
> [snip stuff that I need to take care of]
> rpm-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
> rpm-build-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
> rpm-build-libs-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
> rpm-devel-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
> rpm-libs-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
> rpm-python-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
> # repoquery rpm
> rpm-0:4.9.0-10.fc16.x86_64
> 
> Was this intentional?

Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this list:
Subject: rpm builds failing with "Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found"
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Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 06:22:50PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote:
 > FYI, I've just yum-updated my rawhide VM to the latest
 > (but not from the console) and was surprised to lose the connection
 > while it was happening.  Again.  It happened to me last week, too.
 > 
 > I got back in via the console and tried to reinstall it via "yum
 > reinstall openssh-server".  That failed (sorry, didn't record the 
 > diagnostic).
 > 
 > Just dug a little and found this was reported a week ago:
 > 
 >http://bugzilla.redhat.com/722625

It bit me again yesterday, this time while in a screen session
(I thought I'd learn from the earlier mistake). When I logged back in,
somehow the screen session had vanished.

This behaviour from sshd is pretty nasty. I don't recall it ever
doing this before on updates, so why does it start doing it now ?

arguably that bz should be reassigned to sshd, as that's the root cause
for yum freaking out.

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Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 13:59 -0600, Jerry James wrote: 
> I just did a "package-cleanup --orphans" on my Rawhide machine to see
> which of the just-blocked packages are installed there.  To my
> surprise, I got this:
> 
> # package-cleanup --orphans
> Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
> [snip stuff that I need to take care of]
> rpm-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
> rpm-build-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
> rpm-build-libs-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
> rpm-devel-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
> rpm-libs-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
> rpm-python-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
> # repoquery rpm
> rpm-0:4.9.0-10.fc16.x86_64
> 
> Was this intentional?

Yes, rpm-4.9.1 has seriously broken rpmbuild process.
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Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:17:33PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said: 
> > Bill Nottingham  writes:
> > > Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said: 
> > >> IOW, once I push a mysql update with native systemd support into
> > >> rawhide, I'll be forbidden from ever rebasing mysql in F15 up to
> > >> a newer upstream patch release.  Considering that upstream issues
> > >> bug-fix releases about once a month, this is hardly acceptable.
> > 
> > > No, it just means you'll have to tweak the versioning in the rawhide
> > > trigger at the same time.
> > 
> > That sounds too fragile for words.  Even assuming that I remember to do
> > it each time, what will happen to people who are already running the
> > previous rawhide version?  Seems like "yum update" will result in
> > running the trigger again.
> 
> If the trigger's written correctly, that shouldn't make a difference.
> 
> An example:
> 
> %triggerun -- ntpdate < 4.2.6p3-3
> if /sbin/chkconfig --level 3 ntpdate ; then
> /bin/systemctl enable ntpdate.service &> /dev/null || :
> fi
> exit 0
> 
> If you don't continue to ship the ntpdate init script in the package once
> you've migrated to systemd, this trigger is harmless if triggered again.
> 
Except that this is wrong... It doesn't do at all the same things that the
scriptlet in the Guidelines does.

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Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:20:10AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Toshio Kuratomi  writes:
> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:37:43AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> Michal Hlavinka's solution of explicitly testing for the old sysv init
> >> script seems like a win from here, since I don't intend to continue
> >> packaging that.  Anyone have an objection to that approach?
> 
> > Yes, I object.  As Michal said in his post, the %post that he uses is
> > problematic if someone has installed a package with sysv init scripts for
> > that service.
> 
> That argument seems like a straw man, considering that the file to be
> tested for was provided by the previous version of mysql-server, and
> that the test would only be made when we know we are upgrading (not
> freshly installing) mysql-server.  It's hardly likely that anyone was
> providing a conflicting version of it.  Moreover, what's the downside
> if someone did?  His sysv-based boot configuration would get migrated
> to systemd.  Not exactly fatal, I think.
> 
Alternate init systems are currently allowed within Fedora.  The init
scripts may come from subpackages of the service-providing package or they
may come from entirely separate packages so that they can bootstrap that
init system and so that they can be done without causing the
service-providing package maintainer to do work for things that are not the
default init system.

With that in mind, your assumptions are wrong.

> > Please read the link I posted to Ville's message instead[1]_.
> 
> Thanks, but I do not intend to make it my job to do extensive testing
> of someone else's scriptlets.  This work should have been done by the
> systemd team before foisting a poorly-thought-out upgrade process on
> the rest of us.
> 
Well, then you'lll just have to use the scriptlet that is in the packaging
guidelines as it's the only one that we've tested.

> On balance I still think that Michal's solution is the least risky.
> None of these solutions are perfect, but that one is the least likely
> to fail over time.
>
Let me say it again, a little differenttly then:  Michal's solution has
known breakage.  Ville's proposal has no known breakage (if you follow the
correct recipe that he gives) at this time.  Ville's method is an extension
of the method present in Michal's solution with additional logic to not
break in the situations that Michal's is known to break under.

If you still consider Michal's solution the least risky knowing that it's
broken and that what's essentially a bugfix to it exists, then I don't know
what to tell you.

-Toshio


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RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Jerry James
I just did a "package-cleanup --orphans" on my Rawhide machine to see
which of the just-blocked packages are installed there.  To my
surprise, I got this:

# package-cleanup --orphans
Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit
[snip stuff that I need to take care of]
rpm-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
rpm-build-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
rpm-build-libs-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
rpm-devel-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
rpm-libs-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
rpm-python-4.9.1-2.fc16.x86_64
# repoquery rpm
rpm-0:4.9.0-10.fc16.x86_64

Was this intentional?
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Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/26/2011 03:34 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:

> 
> I don't think it makes a lot of sense to have a visible directory for
> binaries. People will see that, and be annoyed.

  Perhaps, but hiding things annoys many people more ... not a huge deal
as .config is not too hidden anyway ...

> 
> Note that there are a number of 3rd party projects making use of
> ~/.config/bin afaik, including jhbuild which installs its executable to
> that dir.
> 

   At the moment we have apps writing to both .config and .local/share
which seems ugly to me ...  should these be merged ?

  There def seems to be a lot of stuff in .config ... but slightly
better would be

   ~/config/bin

  (not .config) and it would only contain links to

   ~/config//bin/










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Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 26.07.11 15:05, Przemek Klosowski (przemek.klosow...@nist.gov) wrote:

> 
> On 07/26/2011 12:49 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> 
> >> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin
> >
> > This was added between bash-4.2.10 -2 and -3:
> >
> > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=bash.git;a=commitdiff;h=02b20d810111e8b53bb98ad49fedd1d583ce62e1
> >
> > because of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699812
> >
> > There is some rationale in that bug, but I think it's extremely bogus.
> 
> Specifically, Lennart said that it was required by XDG which he 
> coauthored :)

Nah, the basedir spec does not mandate the bin subdir.

WHat I said in the bug report is that I think it makes a lot of sense to
have the XDG basedir stuff in the $PATH.

> There seem to be two arguments for this style: XDG seems to propose 
> .local/{bin,lib,...} hierarchy; also some people claimed that it's 
> easier to accidentally delete ~/bin as opposed to ~/.local/bin.
> I am not convinced by either argument: ~/bin and ~/lib look just fine to 
> me, and accidental deletion is IMHO a strawman. Is there something I am 
> missing?

I don't think it makes a lot of sense to have a visible directory for
binaries. People will see that, and be annoyed.

Note that there are a number of 3rd party projects making use of
~/.config/bin afaik, including jhbuild which installs its executable to
that dir.

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Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Przemek Klosowski  said:
> On 07/26/2011 12:49 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> 
> >> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin
> >
> > This was added between bash-4.2.10 -2 and -3:
> >
> > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=bash.git;a=commitdiff;h=02b20d810111e8b53bb98ad49fedd1d583ce62e1
> >
> > because of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699812
> >
> > There is some rationale in that bug, but I think it's extremely bogus.
> 
> Specifically, Lennart said that it was required by XDG which he 
> coauthored :)

Well, ~/.local/share is the default for data.  The XDG spec found here:

http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html

makes no reference of ~/.local/bin (or any other directories under
~/.local).

IMHO adding directories to the default path should get a little more
discussion than a single BZ request (and probably shouldn't be changed
mid-release without notice).
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Fabian Deutsch
Am Dienstag, den 26.07.2011, 11:28 -0400 schrieb Bill Nottingham:
> Fabian Deutsch (fabian.deut...@gmx.de) said: 
> > It seems as if my first mail (from 12 days ago) got lost: 
> > I can take
> > 
> > > Orphan link-grammar
> 
> It's not a matter of can you; you need to go to pkgdb to claim it. (Sorry
> if the original mail didn't make this clear.)

I actually requested all rights, but there is still the notice: awaiting
review.

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Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 07/26/2011 12:48 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

> Ville recently proposed a different set of scriptlets that would do away
> with triggers but no one's committed to testing that the triggers work in
> all cases (lots of package upgrades and lots of reboots are needed to test
> that the scriptlets upgrade packages the way they're intended to).

I will do some testing, but before starting it, I want a consensus on a
finite set of test cases and their expected results so that the amount
of work required is finite, see my messages on the packaging list today
for an initial proposal.
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Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 07/26/2011 12:49 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:

>> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin
>
> This was added between bash-4.2.10 -2 and -3:
>
> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=bash.git;a=commitdiff;h=02b20d810111e8b53bb98ad49fedd1d583ce62e1
>
> because of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699812
>
> There is some rationale in that bug, but I think it's extremely bogus.

Specifically, Lennart said that it was required by XDG which he 
coauthored :)

There seem to be two arguments for this style: XDG seems to propose 
.local/{bin,lib,...} hierarchy; also some people claimed that it's 
easier to accidentally delete ~/bin as opposed to ~/.local/bin.
I am not convinced by either argument: ~/bin and ~/lib look just fine to 
me, and accidental deletion is IMHO a strawman. Is there something I am 
missing?
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Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Josh Stone
On 07/26/2011 09:49 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:45:11AM -0430, Robert Marcano wrote:
>> In /etc/skel/.bash_profile they are added to the end and I think that is ok
>>
>> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin
> 
> This was added between bash-4.2.10 -2 and -3:
> 
> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=bash.git;a=commitdiff;h=02b20d810111e8b53bb98ad49fedd1d583ce62e1
> 
> because of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699812
> 
> There is some rationale in that bug, but I think it's extremely bogus.

bogus because... ?

I for one find it useful since e.g. "python setup.py install --user"
puts things in ~/.local/{bin,lib,etc}/

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Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH (was: Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH)

2011-07-26 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:49:43 +0100
"Richard W.M. Jones"  wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:45:11AM -0430, Robert Marcano wrote:
> > On 07/26/2011 08:36 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> > > On 07/26/2011 08:03 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> > >> 26.07.2011, 18:34, "Andrew Haley":
> > >>> On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> > >>>
> >    Since F15 ~/bin has been added to PATH, and commands that are
> >    supposed to run user scripts will work without changing into
> >  that directory. Meanwhile, ~/.local/bin isn't used. I'd like
> >  to propose that it is also added because technically it is
> >  ~/bin's brother.
> > >>>
> > >>> I've never heard of ~/.local/bin .  Are there many people who
> > >>> use this?  ~/bin is common.
> > >>
> > >> ~/.local/bin has been there by default.
> > >>
> > >> Unlike ~/bin, which is in PATH though not even created.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Where in the path do the user 'bin' elements appear in the
> > > path?
> > 
> > In /etc/skel/.bash_profile they are added to the end and I think
> > that is ok
> > 
> > PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin
> 
> This was added between bash-4.2.10 -2 and -3:
> 
> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=bash.git;a=commitdiff;h=02b20d810111e8b53bb98ad49fedd1d583ce62e1
> 
> because of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699812
> 
> There is some rationale in that bug, but I think it's extremely bogus.

Oh it seems every useful for purposes like installing executables that
most users will never find.

> 
> Rich.
> 



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Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Jim Meyering
Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
> On 07/26/2011 12:22 PM, Jim Meyering wrote:
>> 
>>  service ssh restart
>
> Would that be:
>
> service sshd restart

Yes, thanks.
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Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH (was: Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH)

2011-07-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:45:11AM -0430, Robert Marcano wrote:
> On 07/26/2011 08:36 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> > On 07/26/2011 08:03 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> >> 26.07.2011, 18:34, "Andrew Haley":
> >>> On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> >>>
>    Since F15 ~/bin has been added to PATH, and commands that are
>    supposed to run user scripts will work without changing into that
>    directory. Meanwhile, ~/.local/bin isn't used. I'd like to propose
>    that it is also added because technically it is ~/bin's brother.
> >>>
> >>> I've never heard of ~/.local/bin .  Are there many people who use
> >>> this?  ~/bin is common.
> >>
> >> ~/.local/bin has been there by default.
> >>
> >> Unlike ~/bin, which is in PATH though not even created.
> >>
> >
> >Where in the path do the user 'bin' elements appear in the path?
> 
> In /etc/skel/.bash_profile they are added to the end and I think that is ok
> 
> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin

This was added between bash-4.2.10 -2 and -3:

http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=bash.git;a=commitdiff;h=02b20d810111e8b53bb98ad49fedd1d583ce62e1

because of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699812

There is some rationale in that bug, but I think it's extremely bogus.

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Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said: 
> Bill Nottingham  writes:
> > Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said: 
> >> IOW, once I push a mysql update with native systemd support into
> >> rawhide, I'll be forbidden from ever rebasing mysql in F15 up to
> >> a newer upstream patch release.  Considering that upstream issues
> >> bug-fix releases about once a month, this is hardly acceptable.
> 
> > No, it just means you'll have to tweak the versioning in the rawhide
> > trigger at the same time.
> 
> That sounds too fragile for words.  Even assuming that I remember to do
> it each time, what will happen to people who are already running the
> previous rawhide version?  Seems like "yum update" will result in
> running the trigger again.

If the trigger's written correctly, that shouldn't make a difference.

An example:

%triggerun -- ntpdate < 4.2.6p3-3
if /sbin/chkconfig --level 3 ntpdate ; then
/bin/systemctl enable ntpdate.service &> /dev/null || :
fi
exit 0

If you don't continue to ship the ntpdate init script in the package once
you've migrated to systemd, this trigger is harmless if triggered again.

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On 7/26/11 8:48 AM, Till Maas wrote:
> I hereby propose to change this in the future and explicitly CC
> comaintainers to make them aware that their package is orphaned.

This can easily be done by just mailing 
-ow...@fedoraproject.org  It will get to all co-maintainers.

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Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 07/26/2011 12:22 PM, Jim Meyering wrote:
> 
>  service ssh restart

Would that be:

service sshd restart

?

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rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Jim Meyering
FYI, I've just yum-updated my rawhide VM to the latest
(but not from the console) and was surprised to lose the connection
while it was happening.  Again.  It happened to me last week, too.

I got back in via the console and tried to reinstall it via "yum
reinstall openssh-server".  That failed (sorry, didn't record the diagnostic).

Just dug a little and found this was reported a week ago:

   http://bugzilla.redhat.com/722625

To fix it, I did this (from a console, of course):

yum -y remove openssh-server &&
yum -y install openssh-server &&
service ssh restart
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Sparc test machine

2011-07-26 Thread Sergio Belkin
I'd like to port UpTools package to sparc architecture.
By chance is some test sparc machine there running Fedora?
Thanks in advance!

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 03:51:16PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) said: 

> > Just wondering: Did the comaintainers get a copy of this mail?
> 
> Only inasmuch as they're subscribed to devel@.

I hereby propose to change this in the future and explicitly CC
comaintainers to make them aware that their package is orphaned.

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TBB (Threading Building Blocks) rebase

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Machata
Hi there,

I rebased TBB to 3.0.  This should even be ABI-stable release--upstream
didn't bump the SONAME, and I verified that no ABI-looking symbols
disappeared.

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Fabian Deutsch (fabian.deut...@gmx.de) said: 
> It seems as if my first mail (from 12 days ago) got lost: 
> I can take
> 
> > Orphan link-grammar

It's not a matter of can you; you need to go to pkgdb to claim it. (Sorry
if the original mail didn't make this clear.)

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Re: Self Introduction

2011-07-26 Thread Rich Mattes
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Simon Thompson wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My name's Simon, I'm a sys admin/developer type in Computer Science at
> University of Birmingham. We've got a couple of hundred workstations
> running variants of SL6/CentOS and I'd done various bits and pieces
> packaging up software to support our teaching here. Along with
> rebuilding stuff from Fedora which isn't in EPEL to get software working.
>
> My job is to support teaching and research of Computer Science and
> getting the stuff we need to work in a sane environment.
>
> I've just posted a package review request for Gazebo (robotics
> simulator) at:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=725752
>
> Simon
>

Hi Simon,

Welcome to Fedora!  If you're interested in working on robotics packages
like Gazebo, consider getting involved with the Robotics SIG[1].  Gazebo has
been on our wishlist for quite a while, it would be great to coordinate our
efforts.

Rich

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Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Tom Lane
Toshio Kuratomi  writes:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:37:43AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Michal Hlavinka's solution of explicitly testing for the old sysv init
>> script seems like a win from here, since I don't intend to continue
>> packaging that.  Anyone have an objection to that approach?

> Yes, I object.  As Michal said in his post, the %post that he uses is
> problematic if someone has installed a package with sysv init scripts for
> that service.

That argument seems like a straw man, considering that the file to be
tested for was provided by the previous version of mysql-server, and
that the test would only be made when we know we are upgrading (not
freshly installing) mysql-server.  It's hardly likely that anyone was
providing a conflicting version of it.  Moreover, what's the downside
if someone did?  His sysv-based boot configuration would get migrated
to systemd.  Not exactly fatal, I think.

> Please read the link I posted to Ville's message instead[1]_.

Thanks, but I do not intend to make it my job to do extensive testing
of someone else's scriptlets.  This work should have been done by the
systemd team before foisting a poorly-thought-out upgrade process on
the rest of us.

On balance I still think that Michal's solution is the least risky.
None of these solutions are perfect, but that one is the least likely
to fail over time.

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:56:36PM +0200, Marc Grimme wrote:
> - "Bill Nottingham"  wrote:
> 
> > Each release, before branching, we block currently orphaned packages.
> > It's that time again for Fedora 16.
> > 
> > New this go-round is that we are also blocking packages that have
> > failed to build since before Fedora 14.
> > 
> > The following packages are currently orphaned, or fail to build. If
> > you have a need for one of these packages, please pick them up.
> > 
> > If not claimed, the packages will be blocked on Monday, July 25.
> > 
> ..
> > Orphan cnetworkmanager
> > Orphan comoonics-base-py
> > comaintained by: elcody02
> I'm co maintaining this package and it is required for the packages 
> comoonics-cdsl-py and comoonics-cluster-py.
> Sorry but it didn't came to my attention that this package is orphaned.
> Can I do something to move it to a proper state? (pickup, ..)
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Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:37:43AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Matthias Saou 
>  writes:
> > Toshio Kuratomi wrote :
> >> Regarding the fragility argument in reply to notting's clarification; do
> >> note that the fragility there only lasts until that Fedora release goes EOL
> >> and therefore can no longer receive updates) less than a year now for 
> >> Fedora
> >> 15.  The fragility of packagers remembering that the package has an epoch
> >> seems lower on a case-by-case basis but its effect lasts for as long as we
> >> ship that package.
> 
> > The fragility you mention will resurface when RHEL7 is released then
> > stay around for many many years for anyone maintaining EPEL6 and EPEL7
> > packages. Definitely something worth keeping in mind.
> 
> Yes, it's actually the eventual RHEL transition that scares me more than
> F15.  Given all the problems created by the (premature IMO) systemd
> transition, anybody running database servers on F15 is already
> accustomed to pain.
> 
I've been told many times that there's no upgrade path from Fedora => RHEL,
from RHEL to Fedora, or from RHELX to RHEL(X+1).  With that in mind there's
no problem here.  RHEL7, I'd deeply hope, will ship with all its services
ported to a single init system standard and then those services will never
migrate.

>
> Michal Hlavinka's solution of explicitly testing for the old sysv init
> script seems like a win from here, since I don't intend to continue
> packaging that.  Anyone have an objection to that approach?
> 
Yes, I object.  As Michal said in his post, the %post that he uses is
problematic if someone has installed a package with sysv init scripts for
that service.  Please read the link I posted to Ville's message instead[1]_.
Ville wrote his proposed scriptlets with awareness of that problem and, in
his testing, they are able to deal with the problem provided that your old
package used service instead of calling the init script directly ("service
mysql condrestart" rather than "/etc/init.d/mysql condrestart").  He also
proposes some scriptlets to address the init script case.

No ones tested them on the FPC but Ville himself has done testing of them.
If you'd like to test the permutations of what the scriptlets do in
different permutations of installing and upgrading and documenting that we'd
be happy to take a look at changing the scriptlets in the Packaging
Guideline to what he proposes.

.. _[1]: 
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/packaging/2011-July/007846.html

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[perl-Mojolicious] Upstream update 1.65

2011-07-26 Thread Yanko Kaneti
commit cb0f6b62d359d1d58937bc20aeadb9ae58b81323
Author: Yanko Kaneti 
Date:   Tue Jul 26 17:40:47 2011 +0300

Upstream update 1.65

 .gitignore|1 +
 perl-Mojolicious.spec |9 ++---
 sources   |2 +-
 3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index e4fbb26..91e2a39 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -23,3 +23,4 @@ Mojolicious-0.26.tar.gz
 /Mojolicious-1.42.tar.gz
 /Mojolicious-1.43.tar.gz
 /Mojolicious-1.46.tar.gz
+/Mojolicious-1.65.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Mojolicious.spec b/perl-Mojolicious.spec
index 8dca227..224ec10 100644
--- a/perl-Mojolicious.spec
+++ b/perl-Mojolicious.spec
@@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
 Name:   perl-Mojolicious
-Version:1.46
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Version:1.65
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:A next generation web framework for Perl
 License:Artistic 2.0
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 URL:http://mojolicious.org/
-Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/K/KR/KRAIH/Mojolicious-%{version}.tar.gz
+Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/S/SR/SRI/Mojolicious-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildArch:  noarch
 BuildRequires:  perl >= 0:5.008007
 BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
@@ -53,6 +53,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Jul 26 2011 Yanko Kaneti  - 1.65-1
+- Upstream update 1.65
+
 * Thu Jul 21 2011 Petr Sabata  - 1.46-3
 - Perl mass rebuild
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index bc15a7a..4e05b17 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-9e521b73658d9ce131bcb48a01f3e3b2  Mojolicious-1.46.tar.gz
+b9cff0ff045d1ca5cb55d41ce90c1f5b  Mojolicious-1.65.tar.gz
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Re: merge into dist-f16

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 02:43:42PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote:
> 
> Currently not-rebuild packages are:
> 
> perl-Fedora-Rebuild
> perl-MongoDB
> perl-NOCpulse-Debug
> perl-NOCpulse-Gritch
> perl-NOCpulse-Object
> perl-Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders

perl-Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders is with Perlbal in cycle. I will break the cycle
on Perlbal site temporarily to be able to build perl-Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders.

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File Mojolicious-1.65.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by yaneti

2011-07-26 Thread Yanko Kaneti
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Mojolicious:

b9cff0ff045d1ca5cb55d41ce90c1f5b  Mojolicious-1.65.tar.gz
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Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Tom Lane
Matthias Saou 
 writes:
> Toshio Kuratomi wrote :
>> Regarding the fragility argument in reply to notting's clarification; do
>> note that the fragility there only lasts until that Fedora release goes EOL
>> and therefore can no longer receive updates) less than a year now for Fedora
>> 15.  The fragility of packagers remembering that the package has an epoch
>> seems lower on a case-by-case basis but its effect lasts for as long as we
>> ship that package.

> The fragility you mention will resurface when RHEL7 is released then
> stay around for many many years for anyone maintaining EPEL6 and EPEL7
> packages. Definitely something worth keeping in mind.

Yes, it's actually the eventual RHEL transition that scares me more than
F15.  Given all the problems created by the (premature IMO) systemd
transition, anybody running database servers on F15 is already
accustomed to pain.

Michal Hlavinka's solution of explicitly testing for the old sysv init
script seems like a win from here, since I don't intend to continue
packaging that.  Anyone have an objection to that approach?

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Re: One easy review swap: 669911 / guestfs-browser

2011-07-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 07:13:18PM +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> Can you please review nifticlib[1]? 
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714047

No problem, I'll do it right now.

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Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Robert Marcano
On 07/26/2011 09:04 AM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> * Genes MailLists [26/07/2011 15:32] :
>>
>>   Mmm ok ... Can I assume root is excepted from this?
>
> You can. That is the case.

a clean F15 install has PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin, not the same 
/etc/skel/.bash_profile but still has ~/bin

>
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Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/26/2011 09:34 AM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> * Genes MailLists [26/07/2011 15:32] :
>>
>>  Mmm ok ... Can I assume root is excepted from this?
> 
> You can. That is the case.
> 
> Emmanuel
> 

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Re: No new repos being built for dist-f16?

2011-07-26 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 13:03 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:54:24PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > 
> > newRepo seems to fail, although it's not clear why.
> > 
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3230556
> > 
> > Maybe something to do with branching?
> 
> For whatever reason, this has fixed itself now.

Not sure if related, but during rawhide acceptance testing, it was found
that generic-release was being favored instead of fedora-release.  This
was resulting in fedora-release-rawhide not being installed on the
system.  A recent update to the generic-release package has resolved the
problem, and fedora-release* should now be installed.

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Re: One easy review swap: 669911 / guestfs-browser

2011-07-26 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 13:02 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669911#c5
> Review Request: guestfs-browser - Guest filesystem browser
> 
> Spec:
> http://oirase.annexia.org/reviews/guestfs-browser/guestfs-browser.spec
> SRPM:
> http://oirase.annexia.org/reviews/guestfs-browser/guestfs-browser-0.1.6-1.fc15.src.rpm
> 
> This is a very simple review.  It has a Koji build and the rpmlint
> warnings are trivial.
> 
> I'll swap in return for a similarly uncomplex review. 

Hi Richard,

I'll review this for you. 

Can you please review nifticlib[1]? 

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714047

It's a pretty simple package too.

You could actually pick any of the tickets from this list:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?emailtype2=exact&emailreporter1=1&short_desc=Review%20Request%3A&classification=Fedora&emailtype1=exact&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&email2=nobody%40fedoraproject.org&short_desc_type=substring&email1=sanjay.ankur%40gmail.com&emailassigned_to2=1&product=Fedora

klt should also be equally simple
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Re: merge into dist-f16

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 02:43:42PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote:
> 
> Currently not-rebuild packages are:
[...]
> perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

This package had problems in previous releases
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=611015), current problem is
tracked at upstream (https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Bug/Display.html?id=69816).

Because upstream and Fedora maintainers seem dead, the package will be removed
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Re: merge into dist-f16

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 02:43:42PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote:
> Currently not-rebuild packages are:
> 
> perl-Fedora-Rebuild
perl-Fedora-Rebuild done.

> perl-MongoDB
> perl-NOCpulse-Debug
> perl-NOCpulse-Gritch
> perl-NOCpulse-Object
> perl-Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders
> perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule
> perl-threads-tbb
> perl-XML-Parser-Lite-Tree-XPath
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Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Genes MailLists [26/07/2011 15:32] :
>
>  Mmm ok ... Can I assume root is excepted from this?

You can. That is the case.

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Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Genes MailLists [26/07/2011 15:14] :
>
> 
> >> On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
>
> > Unlike ~/bin, which is in PATH though not even created.

It's the other way round on my machine. Both are in my $PATH but ~/bin
exists (I may have created it by hand) and ~/.local/bin/ doesn't.

>   Where in the path do the user 'bin' elements appear in the path?

These are defined by ~/.bash_profile which is copied from
/etc/skel/.bash_profile on account creation.

[manu@munshine ~]$ grep PATH /etc/skel/.bash_profile 
PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin
export PATH

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Self Introduction

2011-07-26 Thread Simon Thompson
Hi,

My name's Simon, I'm a sys admin/developer type in Computer Science at
University of Birmingham. We've got a couple of hundred workstations
running variants of SL6/CentOS and I'd done various bits and pieces
packaging up software to support our teaching here. Along with
rebuilding stuff from Fedora which isn't in EPEL to get software working.

My job is to support teaching and research of Computer Science and
getting the stuff we need to work in a sane environment.

I've just posted a package review request for Gazebo (robotics
simulator) at:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=725752

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Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/26/2011 09:15 AM, Robert Marcano wrote:

> In /etc/skel/.bash_profile they are added to the end and I think that is ok
> 
> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin
> 
> Never knew about ~/.local/bin my .bash_profile is really old from the 
> time where the default was only ~/bin

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Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Robert Marcano
On 07/26/2011 08:36 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 07/26/2011 08:03 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
>> 26.07.2011, 18:34, "Andrew Haley":
>>> On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
>>>
   Since F15 ~/bin has been added to PATH, and commands that are
   supposed to run user scripts will work without changing into that
   directory. Meanwhile, ~/.local/bin isn't used. I'd like to propose
   that it is also added because technically it is ~/bin's brother.
>>>
>>> I've never heard of ~/.local/bin .  Are there many people who use
>>> this?  ~/bin is common.
>>
>> ~/.local/bin has been there by default.
>>
>> Unlike ~/bin, which is in PATH though not even created.
>>
>
>Where in the path do the user 'bin' elements appear in the path?

In /etc/skel/.bash_profile they are added to the end and I think that is ok

PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin

Never knew about ~/.local/bin my .bash_profile is really old from the 
time where the default was only ~/bin
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Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/26/2011 08:03 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> 26.07.2011, 18:34, "Andrew Haley" :
>> On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
>>
>>>  Since F15 ~/bin has been added to PATH, and commands that are
>>>  supposed to run user scripts will work without changing into that
>>>  directory. Meanwhile, ~/.local/bin isn't used. I'd like to propose
>>>  that it is also added because technically it is ~/bin's brother.
>>
>> I've never heard of ~/.local/bin .  Are there many people who use
>> this?  ~/bin is common.
> 
> ~/.local/bin has been there by default.
> 
> Unlike ~/bin, which is in PATH though not even created.
> 

  Where in the path do the user 'bin' elements appear in the path?
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[perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences] Add RPM 4.9 style filters

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Sabata
commit b40f91e83382c2d05f0d87b67147ff278bf4b7a5
Author: Petr Sabata 
Date:   Tue Jul 26 14:59:28 2011 +0200

Add RPM 4.9 style filters

 perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences.spec |8 +++-
 1 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences.spec b/perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences.spec
index 50c5524..4c21e4e 100644
--- a/perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences.spec
+++ b/perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences
 Version:0.13
-Release:17%{?dist}
+Release:18%{?dist}
 Summary:Kwiki User Preferences Plugin
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -15,10 +15,13 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(Kwiki) >= 0.37
 Requires:   perl(Kwiki) >= 0.37
 Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval "`%{__perl} -V:version`"; echo 
$version))
 
+# RPM 4.8 style
 %{?filter_setup:
 %filter_from_requires /^perl(mixin)/d
 %{?perl_default_filter}
 }
+# RPM 4.9 style
+%global __requires_exclude 
%{?__requires_exclude:__requires_exclude|}^perl\\(mixin\\)$
 
 %description
 Kwiki User Preferences plugin.
@@ -53,6 +56,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Jul 26 2011 Petr Sabata  - 0.13-18
+- Add RPM 4.9 style filters
+
 * Fri Jul 22 2011 Petr Sabata  - 0.13-17
 - BuildRequire IO::All
 
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NFSv4 / POSIX ACL mapping bug?

2011-07-26 Thread Robert Marcano
Hi,

I need some help clarifying this issue in order to know if this is a bug 
or limits of the NFSv4 / POSIX ACL mapping before reporting it

Creating a directory on the server with the following POSIX ACLs, rwx 
for the group "sharedgroup" and same defaults:


# file: directory
# owner: root
# group: root
user::rwx
group::r-x
group:sharedgroup:rwx
mask::rwx
other::---
default:user::rwx
default:group::r-x
default:group:sharedgroup:rwx
default:mask::rwx
default:other::---


Creating files with the same user with umask 022 on the server an on the 
NFS client, the files do not get the same POSIX ACL mask:


# file: client
# owner: test
# group: testgroup
user::rw-
group::r-x   #effective:r--
group:sharedgroup:rwx#effective:r--
mask::r--
other::r--

# file: server
# owner: test
# group: testgroup
user::rw-
group::r-x   #effective:r--
group:sharedgroup:rwx#effective:rw-
mask::rw-
other::r--


Is this normal or a bug?, My interpretation is that even that the 
mapping of the ACLs is not 100% perfect this simple example should not 
be a problem. Is it impossible using NFS to create a shared directory 
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[perl-Fedora-Rebuild] Do not create back-up files when patching

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit a1606c356bf5934f59fa2c9a90cbc0f504cc3882
Author: Petr Písař 
Date:   Tue Jul 26 14:55:57 2011 +0200

Do not create back-up files when patching

 perl-Fedora-Rebuild.spec |7 +--
 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Fedora-Rebuild.spec b/perl-Fedora-Rebuild.spec
index 5d66460..5b3f933 100644
--- a/perl-Fedora-Rebuild.spec
+++ b/perl-Fedora-Rebuild.spec
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 # This file is lincensed under the terms of GPLv2+.
 Name:   perl-Fedora-Rebuild
 Version:0.8.0
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Release:4%{?dist}
 Summary:Rebuilds Fedora packages from scratch
 License:GPLv3+
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -50,7 +50,7 @@ new interpreter.
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -n Fedora-Rebuild-v%{version}
-%patch0 -p1 -b .iohandle
+%patch0 -p1
 
 %build
 %{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
@@ -73,6 +73,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Jul 26 2011 Petr Pisar  - 0.8.0-4
+- Do not create back-up files when patching. They would be packaged.
+
 * Fri Jul 22 2011 Petr Sabata  - 0.8.0-3
 - Use IO::Handle to build with perl5.14
 
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Re: orphaning / looking for new owner for monkey-bubble

2011-07-26 Thread Richard Shaw
Just to add my $0.02, I installed both monkey bubble and frozen bubble
for the kids and they definitely like frozen bubble more and otherwise
they're functionally equivalent.

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Re: Packages affected by RPM 4.9 filtering [was: News from rebuild]

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 03:19:45PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 01:14:09PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 01:03:28PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 03:56:22PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:08:40AM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote:
> > > > > List of perl packages whose spec file contains `filter_setup' string
> > > > > follows. These packages can be affected by transition to RPM 4.9 
> > > > > dependency
> > > > > filtering. We advise to migrate the filters after merging perl-5.14 
> > > > > into
> > > > > rawhide to get proper results. Also we advise to run rpmdiff on old 
> > > > > and new
> > > > > package to check your spec file changes takes effect. Please note the 
> > > > > list
> > > > > was generated from older git repositories mirror, so it does not 
> > > > > reflect
> > > > > current state exactly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- Petr
> > > > > 
> > > > > ikiwiki
> > > > > lcgdm
> > > > > libdigidocpp
> > > > > mhonarc
> > > > > mod_perl
> > > > > perl-Ace
> > > > > perl-AnyEvent
> > > > > perl-Apache-DBI-Cache
> > > > > perl-AppConfig
> > > > > perl-App-cpanminus
> > > > > perl-autobox
> > > > > perl-Bio-Graphics
> > > > > perl-bioperl
> > > > > perl-Catalyst-Controller-FormBuilder
> > > > > perl-CGI
> > > > > perl-CHI
> > > > > perl-Class-Prototyped
> > > > > perl-Class-XSAccessor
> > > > > perl-Contextual-Return
> > > > > perl-Crypt-SSLeay
> > > > > perl-Data-TreeDumper-Renderer-GTK
> > > > > perl-DateTime
> > > > 
> > > > So far, I checked and updated all this packages.
> > > > 
> > > > Followings are not checked.
> > > > 
> > > > > perl-DateTime-Format-Mail
> > > > > perl-DateTime-Precise
> > > > > perl-DateTime-Set
> > > > > perl-DBD-CSV
> > > > > perl-DBI-Dumper
> > > > > perl-DBIx-Class-Cursor-Cached
> > > > > perl-DBIx-ContextualFetch
> > > > > perl-Devel-Caller
> > > > > perl-Devel-CheckOS
> > > > > perl-ExtUtils-XSpp
> > > > > perl-File-ChangeNotify
> > > > > perl-File-FnMatch
> > > > > perl-File-Listing
> > > > > perl-File-PathList
> > > > > perl-File-ShareDir-PAR
> > > 
> > > All up-to perl-File-ShareDir-PAR checked.
> > > 
> > > > > perl-Goo-Canvas
> > > > > perl-Gtk2-Ex-Carp
> > > > > perl-HTTP-Cookies
> > > > > perl-HTTP-Daemon
> > > > > perl-HTTP-Message
> > > > > perl-HTTP-Negotiate
> > 
> > Up to perl-HTTP-Negotiate checked by Marcela.
> > 
> > > > > perl-Kwiki
> > > > > perl-Kwiki-NewPage
> > > > > perl-Kwiki-Raw
> > > > > perl-Kwiki-RecentChanges
> > > > > perl-Kwiki-Revisions
> > > > > perl-Kwiki-Search
> > > > > perl-Kwiki-UserName
> > > > > perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences
> > > > > perl-Kwiki-Users-Remote
> > Up to perl-Kwiki-Users-Remote checked by Petr Sabata.
> > 
> > > > > perl-Language-Functional
> > > > > perl-libwww-perl
> > > > > perl-LWP-Protocol-https
> > > > > perl-Math-Random-MT-Auto
> > > > > perl-Math-Symbolic
> > > > > perl-Memoize-ExpireLRU
> > > > > perl-Module-Mask
> > > > > perl-MogileFS-Utils
> > > > > perl-MooseX-CascadeClearing
> > > > > perl-MooseX-Types-DateTimeX
> > > > > perl-NetAddr-IP
> > > > > perl-Padre
> > > > > perl-PathTools
> > > > > perl-PDL
> > > > > perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated
> > > > > perl-Perl-Critic-More
> > > > > perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp
> > > > > perl-Perl-Critic-Swift
> > > > > perl-Perlilog
> > > > > perl-Perl-Metrics-Simple
> > > > > perl-POE-Filter-HTTP-Parser
> > > > > perl-PPI
> 
> Packages from perl-PPI-PowerToys till the end have been checked by Iain an
> Marcela.
> > > > > perl-PPI-PowerToys
> > > > > perl-PPIx-EditorTools
> > > > > perl-PPIx-Regexp
> > > > > perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule
> > > > > perl-SOAP-Lite
> > > > > perl-Spoon
> > > > > perl-Spreadsheet-WriteExcel
> > > > > perl-Statistics-Basic
> > > > > perl-STD
> > > > > perl-Template-Toolkit
> > > > > perl-Test-DistManifest
> > > > > perl-Test-Perl-Critic-Progressive
> > > > > perl-Test-Smoke
> > > > > perl-Text-Aligner
> > > > > perl-Text-Table
> > > > > perl-Unicode-String
> > > > > perl-version
> > > > > perl-WWW-Curl
> > > > > perl-WWW-RobotRules
> > > > > perl-Wx
> > > > > perl-XML-Parser
> > > > > perl-XML-Twig
> > > > > perl-YUM-RepoQuery
> > > > > redland-bindings
> > > > > rt3
> 
> -- Petr

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Re: merge into dist-f16

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:44:44AM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 07:38:11PM +0200, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
> > 
> > b/ filters still not converted/checked
> >  > perl-Language-Functional
> >  > perl-libwww-perl
> >  > perl-LWP-Protocol-https
> >  > perl-Math-Random-MT-Auto
> >  > perl-Math-Symbolic
> >  > perl-Memoize-ExpireLRU
> >  > perl-Module-Mask
> >  > perl-MogileFS-Utils
> >  > perl-MooseX-CascadeClearing
> >  > perl-MooseX-Types-DateTimeX
> >  > perl-NetAddr-IP
> I checked packages up to perl-NetAddr-IP yesterday (just forgot to announnce
> it).
> 
> >  > perl-Padre
> >  > perl-PathTools
> >  > perl-PDL
> >  > perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated
> >  > perl-Perl-Critic-More
> >  > perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp
> >  > perl-Perl-Critic-Swift
> >  > perl-Perlilog
> >  > perl-Perl-Metrics-Simple
> >  > perl-POE-Filter-HTTP-Parser
> >  > perl-PPI
> > 
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All RPM 4.8 filters rewritten to RPM 4.9. Thanks for help.

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Re: orphaning / looking for new owner for monkey-bubble

2011-07-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:12:54 +0200,
  Hans de Goede  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've been thinking about orphaning monkey-bubble for a while now,
> mostly because it is dead upstream and it is using various obsolete
> gnome technologies (esound, libgnomeui, bonobo).
> 
> Yesterday it came to my attention that monkey-bubble also contains
> at least 1 sound sample which we should not be re-distributing, as
> well as various sound samples from unclear origin. This has helped
> me make up my mind, and unless someone else jumps in to take it over
> (and fix the sound sample situation) I'm going to orphan it.
> 
> So anyone want to take over monkey-bubble?

Even though I normally like to save games, I think letting this one go
is probably a good idea. Upstream is really gone. They changed their
web site and repository locations and then let the new area disappear.
Only the old web site and some tarballs seem to be available.

It's kind of a cute game, but unless someone is willing to be a real
upstream for it, it should probably be let go.
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Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Misha Shnurapet
26.07.2011, 18:34, "Andrew Haley" :
> On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
>
>>  Since F15 ~/bin has been added to PATH, and commands that are
>>  supposed to run user scripts will work without changing into that
>>  directory. Meanwhile, ~/.local/bin isn't used. I'd like to propose
>>  that it is also added because technically it is ~/bin's brother.
>
> I've never heard of ~/.local/bin .  Are there many people who use
> this?  ~/bin is common.

~/.local/bin has been there by default.

Unlike ~/bin, which is in PATH though not even created.

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Re: No new repos being built for dist-f16?

2011-07-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:54:24PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> 
> newRepo seems to fail, although it's not clear why.
> 
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3230556
> 
> Maybe something to do with branching?

For whatever reason, this has fixed itself now.

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One easy review swap: 669911 / guestfs-browser

2011-07-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669911#c5
Review Request: guestfs-browser - Guest filesystem browser

Spec:
http://oirase.annexia.org/reviews/guestfs-browser/guestfs-browser.spec
SRPM:
http://oirase.annexia.org/reviews/guestfs-browser/guestfs-browser-0.1.6-1.fc15.src.rpm

This is a very simple review.  It has a Koji build and the rpmlint
warnings are trivial.

I'll swap in return for a similarly uncomplex review.

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Marc Grimme
- "Bill Nottingham"  wrote:

> Each release, before branching, we block currently orphaned packages.
> It's that time again for Fedora 16.
> 
> New this go-round is that we are also blocking packages that have
> failed to build since before Fedora 14.
> 
> The following packages are currently orphaned, or fail to build. If
> you have a need for one of these packages, please pick them up.
> 
> If not claimed, the packages will be blocked on Monday, July 25.
> 
..
> Orphan cnetworkmanager
> Orphan comoonics-base-py
>   comaintained by: elcody02
I'm co maintaining this package and it is required for the packages 
comoonics-cdsl-py and comoonics-cluster-py.
Sorry but it didn't came to my attention that this package is orphaned.
Can I do something to move it to a proper state? (pickup, ..)

Thanks for you help
Marc.
> Orphan compizconfig-backend-kconfig
>   comaintained by: izhar
> Orphan cowbell

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No new repos being built for dist-f16?

2011-07-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones

newRepo seems to fail, although it's not clear why.

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3230556

Maybe something to do with branching?

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Re: usb_modeswitch/usb_modeswitch-data outdated

2011-07-26 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote:

> taken care of this, sorry for the delay :)

-thank you-

now waiting for the maintainer of usb_modeswitch:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625004
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[perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated] RPM 4.9 dependency filtering added

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 246320d44ae6b3a7fa975c23005d21e03d924534
Author: Petr Pisar 
Date:   Tue Jul 26 13:27:33 2011 +0200

RPM 4.9 dependency filtering added

 perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated.spec |9 -
 1 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated.spec b/perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated.spec
index c434378..b3c2367 100644
--- a/perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated.spec
+++ b/perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Perl-Critic-Deprecated
 Version:1.108
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Release:3%{?dist}
 Summary:Perl::Critic policies which have been superseded by others
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -24,9 +24,13 @@ Requires:   perl(Perl::Critic::Policy) >= 1.094
 Requires:   perl(Perl::Critic::Utils) >= 1.094
 
 # Filter underspecified dependecies
+# RPM 4.8 style:
 %filter_from_requires /^perl(Perl::Critic::Policy)$/d
 %filter_from_requires /^perl(Perl::Critic::Utils)$/d
 %filter_setup
+# RPM 4.9 style:
+%global __requires_exclude 
%{?__requires_exclude:%__requires_exclude|}^perl\\(Perl::Critic::Policy\\)$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Perl::Critic::Utils\\)$
 
 %description
 The included policies are:
@@ -55,6 +59,9 @@ find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 
2>/dev/null \;
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Jul 26 2011 Petr Pisar  - 1.108-3
+- RPM 4.9 dependency filtering added
+
 * Tue Jul 19 2011 Petr Sabata  - 1.108-2
 - Perl mass rebuild
 
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Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Matthias Saou
Toshio Kuratomi wrote :

> Regarding the fragility argument in reply to notting's clarification; do
> note that the fragility there only lasts until that Fedora release goes EOL
> and therefore can no longer receive updates) less than a year now for Fedora
> 15.  The fragility of packagers remembering that the package has an epoch
> seems lower on a case-by-case basis but its effect lasts for as long as we
> ship that package.

The fragility you mention will resurface when RHEL7 is released then
stay around for many many years for anyone maintaining EPEL6 and EPEL7
packages. Definitely something worth keeping in mind.

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[perl-Padre] RPM 4.9 dependency filtering added

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 4827e8c86f0a6bf8e9e00f547e5e02b49e6f4989
Author: Petr Pisar 
Date:   Tue Jul 26 13:16:38 2011 +0200

RPM 4.9 dependency filtering added

 perl-Padre.spec |   44 +++-
 1 files changed, 43 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Padre.spec b/perl-Padre.spec
index d49fb15..703e8cf 100644
--- a/perl-Padre.spec
+++ b/perl-Padre.spec
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@
 
 Name:   perl-Padre
 Version:0.86
-Release:4%{?dist}
+Release:5%{?dist}
 Summary:Perl Application Development and Refactoring Environment
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -244,6 +244,7 @@ Obsoletes:  perl-Wx-Perl-Dialog < 0.01
 Provides:   perl-Wx-Perl-Dialog > 0.01
 Provides:   padre = %{version}
 
+# RPM 4.8 style:
 # Remove too specific requires because of version rounding
 %filter_from_requires /perl(File::Spec) >= 3.2701/d
 
@@ -283,6 +284,44 @@ Provides:   padre = %{version}
 %filter_from_provides /^perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker::_version)$/d
 %filter_setup
 
+# RPM 4.9 style
+# Remove too specific requires because of version rounding
+%global __requires_exclude 
%{?__requires_exclude:%__requires_exclude|}perl\\(File::Spec\\) >= 3.2701
+
+# Remove underspecified dependencies
+%global __provides_exclude 
%{?__provides_exclude:%__provides_exclude|}^perl\\(Padre::Config\\)\\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Capture::Tiny\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Class::Inspector\\)$
+%global __requires_exclude 
%__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Class::XSAccessor\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude 
%__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Class::XSAccessor::Array\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Cwd\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(DBD::SQLite\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(DBI\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Encode\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(File::HomeDir\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(File::Path\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(File::ShareDir\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude 
%__requires_exclude|^perl\\(File::Spec::Functions\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(File::Temp\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(IO::Scalar\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(JSON::XS\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(List::Util\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Module::Build\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Params::Util\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude 
%__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Parse::ErrorString::Perl\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Pod::Abstract\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Pod::Perldoc\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude 
%__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Pod::Simple::XHTML\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Storable\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Text::Balanced\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(threads::shared\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Time::HiRes\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(version\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude 
%__requires_exclude|^perl\\(Wx::Perl::ProcessStream\\)\\s)*$
+%global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|^perl\\(YAML::Tiny\\)\\s)*$
+
+# Remove private moduiles
+%global __provides_exclude 
%__provides_exclude|^perl\\(ExtUtils::MakeMaker::_version\\)$
 
 %description
 Padre is a text editor aimed to be an IDE for Perl.
@@ -365,6 +404,9 @@ mkdir "$HOME"
 
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Jul 26 2011 Petr Pisar  - 0.86-5
+- RPM 4.9 dependency filtering added
+
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Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-26 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/26/2011 02:15 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 07:24 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote:
>
>> should not be surprised that you see resistance (what new capability does NFS
>> get from the systemd changes for example!).
> reliable on-demand automounting, for a start. for which you already owe
> Lennart about three kegs of beer, by my calculation. =)
>
> (try 'noauto,comment=systemd.automount' as mount parameters for an NFS
> share)

We track autofs issues for fedora, upstream and RHEL and seems to work well in 
the field.

What specifically does systemd do that autofs does not do without it?

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Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Michal Hlavinka
On 07/25/2011 09:07 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> In
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#Systemd
> I read that conversion of a package using a SysV initscript to systemd
> units requires a trigger with a "<  NEVR" condition, and that
>
> # Note: the NEVR in trigger scripts should all be the version in
> # which the package switched to systemd unit files and the comparision
> # should be less than.  Using<= the last version with the sysV script won't
> # work for several reasons:
> # 1) disttag is different between Fedora releases
> # 2) An update in an old Fedora release may create a newer NEVR
> #Note that this means an update in an older Fedora release must be NEVR
> #lower than this.  Freezing the version and release of the old package and
> #using a number after the disttag is one way to do this.  Example:
> #httpd-1.0-1%{?dist} =>  httpd-1.0-1%{?dist}.1
>
> IOW, once I push a mysql update with native systemd support into
> rawhide, I'll be forbidden from ever rebasing mysql in F15 up to
> a newer upstream patch release.  Considering that upstream issues
> bug-fix releases about once a month, this is hardly acceptable.
>
> I'll have the same problem with postgresql, too.
>
> What's seeming like a better option is to bump the package's Epoch
> for the systemd-native release.

I don't like epoch changes too much. So, I've used different approach. 
In %post section I have script that checks for old init script presence. 
Something like:

if [ -f %{_initddir}/

[perl-PPIx-Regexp] Remove RPM 4.8 filter

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit c96e225b016b2fed65f68dc1723de279e2ebc65c
Author: Petr Pisar 
Date:   Tue Jul 26 11:36:16 2011 +0200

Remove RPM 4.8 filter

 perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec |4 +---
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec b/perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec
index e3a4fbf..fcc2a2d 100644
--- a/perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec
+++ b/perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec
@@ -16,9 +16,6 @@ Requires:   perl(PPI::Document) >= 1.117
 Requires:   perl(Task::Weaken)
 Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval "`%{__perl} -V:version`"; echo 
$version))
 
-%filter_from_requires /^perl(PPI::Document)$/d
-%filter_setup
-
 %global __requires_exclude 
%{?__requires_exclude:%__requires_exclude|}perl\\(PPI::Document\\)$
 
 %description
@@ -52,6 +49,7 @@ find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 
2>/dev/null \;
 %changelog
 * Tue Jul 26 2011 Petr Pisar  - 0.021-1
 - 0.021 bump
+- Remove RPM 4.8 filter
 
 * Mon Jul 25 2011 Marcela Mašláňová  - 0.020-3
 - add new filter
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[perl-PPIx-Regexp] 0.021 bump

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 199e2e745f412c0005e1b4a34e52b5e0207d6c15
Author: Petr Pisar 
Date:   Tue Jul 26 11:34:08 2011 +0200

0.021 bump

 .gitignore|1 +
 perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec |7 +--
 sources   |2 +-
 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 04a3bd4..c181e23 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -9,3 +9,4 @@ PPIx-Regexp-0.007.tar.gz
 /PPIx-Regexp-0.018.tar.gz
 /PPIx-Regexp-0.019.tar.gz
 /PPIx-Regexp-0.020.tar.gz
+/PPIx-Regexp-0.021.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec b/perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec
index 62bcbb1..e3a4fbf 100644
--- a/perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec
+++ b/perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-PPIx-Regexp
-Version:0.020
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Version:0.021
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Represent a regular expression of some sort
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -50,6 +50,9 @@ find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 
2>/dev/null \;
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Jul 26 2011 Petr Pisar  - 0.021-1
+- 0.021 bump
+
 * Mon Jul 25 2011 Marcela Mašláňová  - 0.020-3
 - add new filter
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 4d1d3d6..3a4a529 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-1293df6eb0765646a73808d32ff8ed82  PPIx-Regexp-0.020.tar.gz
+037542ca9d83ae19e2f33043a17ef972  PPIx-Regexp-0.021.tar.gz
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File perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-PPIx-Regexp:

77aacbbd0b54a9d2a57711a222887459  perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec
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Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote:
> 
> Since F15 ~/bin has been added to PATH, and commands that are
> supposed to run user scripts will work without changing into that
> directory. Meanwhile, ~/.local/bin isn't used. I'd like to propose
> that it is also added because technically it is ~/bin's brother.

I've never heard of ~/.local/bin .  Are there many people who use
this?  ~/bin is common.

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[Bug 720293] perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp-62 is available

2011-07-26 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720293

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   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp-62-1.
   ||fc16
 Resolution||RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2011-07-26 05:30:33

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[perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp] Fix typo in changelog

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 115abdfc5c196c9d6652b95c0822f7d72fc43301
Author: Petr Písař 
Date:   Tue Jul 26 11:30:14 2011 +0200

Fix typo in changelog

 perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec |2 +-
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec b/perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec
index 8addb00..4e102d4 100644
--- a/perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec
+++ b/perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec
@@ -93,7 +93,7 @@ make test
 
 %changelog
 * Tue Jul 26 2011 Petr Pisar  - 62-1
-- 0.62 bump
+- 62 bump
 - Remove RPM 4.8 filters
 
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[perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp] Remove 4.8 filters

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 6c8b32c6c6921f2d0d07de2c4920f6ac5430988e
Author: Petr Pisar 
Date:   Tue Jul 26 11:20:05 2011 +0200

Remove 4.8 filters

 perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec |   21 +++--
 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec b/perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec
index a84c0a8..8addb00 100644
--- a/perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec
+++ b/perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec
@@ -47,31 +47,15 @@ Requires:   perl(PPI::Document)
 # code.
 Requires:   perl(Test::More)
 
-# filter for RPM 4.8
 # Filter underspecified dependencies
-%filter_from_requires /^perl(List::MoreUtils)$/d
-%filter_from_requires /^perl(Perl::Critic::Policy)$/d
-%filter_from_requires /^perl(Perl::Critic::Utils)$/d
-%filter_from_requires /^perl(Perl::Critic::Utils) >= 0.21$/d
-# Filter private redefinitions
-%filter_from_provides /^perl(Perl::MinimumVersion)\s*$/d
-# Filter private parsers 
-%filter_from_requires 
/^perl(Perl::Critic::PodParser::ProhibitVerbatimMarkup)\s*$/d
-%filter_from_provides 
/^perl(Perl::Critic::PodParser::ProhibitVerbatimMarkup)\s*$/d
-%filter_from_provides 
/^perl(Perl::Critic::Policy::Documentation::ProhibitAdjacentLinks::Parser)\s*$/d
-%filter_from_provides 
/^perl(Perl::Critic::Pulp::PodMinimumVersionViolation)\s*$/d
-%filter_from_provides 
/^perl(Perl::Critic::Pulp::PodParser::ProhibitBadAproposMarkup)\s*/d
-%filter_from_provides 
/^perl(Perl::Critic::Pulp::PodParser::ProhibitParagraphTwoDots)\s*/d
-%filter_from_provides 
/^perl(Perl::Critic::Pulp::PodParser::ProhibitUnbalancedParens)\s*/d
-%filter_from_provides 
/^perl(Perl::Critic::Pulp::PodParser::RequireLinkedURLs)\s*/d
-%filter_setup
-# filter for RPM 4.9
 %global __requires_exclude 
%{?__requires_exclude:%__requires_exclude|}perl\\(List::MoreUtils\\)\\s*$
 %global __requires_exclude 
%__requires_exclude|perl\\(Perl::Critic::Policy\\)\\s*$
 %global __requires_exclude 
%__requires_exclude|perl\\(Perl::Critic::Utils\\)\\s*$
 %global __requires_exclude %__requires_exclude|perl\\(Perl::Critic::Utils\\) 
>= 0\\.21$
 %global __requires_exclude 
%__requires_exclude|perl\\(Perl::Critic::PodParser::ProhibitVerbatimMarkup\\)\\s*$
+# Filter private redefinitions
 %global __provides_exclude 
%{?__provides_exclude:%__provides_exclude|}perl\\(Perl::MinimumVersion\\)\\s*$
+# Filter private parsers 
 %global __provides_exclude 
%__provides_exclude|perl\\(Perl::Critic::PodParser::ProhibitVerbatimMarkup\\)\\s*$
 %global __provides_exclude 
%__provides_exclude|perl\\(Perl::Critic::Policy::Documentation::ProhibitAdjacentLinks::Parser\\)\\s*$
 %global __provides_exclude 
%__provides_exclude|perl\\(Perl::Critic::Pulp::PodMinimumVersionViolation\\)\\s*$
@@ -110,6 +94,7 @@ make test
 %changelog
 * Tue Jul 26 2011 Petr Pisar  - 62-1
 - 0.62 bump
+- Remove RPM 4.8 filters
 
 * Tue Jul 26 2011 Marcela Mašláňová  - 61-3
 - add RPM4.9 macro filter
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[perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp] 0.62 bump

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit dccf4e2a5c7c65ed2c49e340189b3ed2f3f711f9
Author: Petr Pisar 
Date:   Tue Jul 26 11:16:13 2011 +0200

0.62 bump

 .gitignore |1 +
 perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec |   10 +++---
 sources|2 +-
 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 8a5c304..c4a3bab 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -8,3 +8,4 @@
 /Perl-Critic-Pulp-59.tar.gz
 /Perl-Critic-Pulp-60.tar.gz
 /Perl-Critic-Pulp-61.tar.gz
+/Perl-Critic-Pulp-62.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec b/perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec
index 221cdad..a84c0a8 100644
--- a/perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec
+++ b/perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp
-Version:61
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Version:62
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Some add-on perlcritic policies
 License:GPLv3+
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(Perl::Critic::Utils::PPI)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Perl::Critic::Violation)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Pod::MinimumVersion) >= 50
 BuildRequires:  perl(Pod::Parser)
-BuildRequires:  perl(PPI) >= 1.208
+BuildRequires:  perl(PPI) >= 1.212
 BuildRequires:  perl(PPI::Document)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Scalar::Util)
 BuildRequires:  perl(version)
@@ -41,6 +41,7 @@ Requires:   perl(IO::String) >= 1.02
 Requires:   perl(List::MoreUtils) >= 0.24
 Requires:   perl(Perl::Critic) >= 1.084
 Requires:   perl(Pod::MinimumVersion) >= 50
+Requires:   perl(PPI) >= 1.212
 Requires:   perl(PPI::Document)
 # This is plug-in into Test::More. Depend on it even if not mentioned in the
 # code.
@@ -107,6 +108,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Jul 26 2011 Petr Pisar  - 62-1
+- 0.62 bump
+
 * Tue Jul 26 2011 Marcela Mašláňová  - 61-3
 - add RPM4.9 macro filter
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 5eee375..10f5912 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-6f99fa4f82b9cd8e0ca608faecd28ad7  Perl-Critic-Pulp-61.tar.gz
+90aff90625ea0659107700302e36843d  Perl-Critic-Pulp-62.tar.gz
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2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
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User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Misha Shnurapet
Hi.

Since F15 ~/bin has been added to PATH, and commands that are supposed to run 
user scripts will work without changing into that directory. Meanwhile, 
~/.local/bin isn't used. I'd like to propose that it is also added because 
technically it is ~/bin's brother.

Yes, user scripts can be kept in ~/bin for editing purposes. I prefer to edit 
them where I run them, in a terminal, especially when using the machine 
remotely. And it would be nice for those who want to move scripts out of the 
way so these don't get deleted accidentally along with some user stuff. It 
takes some time to write a script and only a second to delete a bunch of files.

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Fabian Deutsch
Hello,

It seems as if my first mail (from 12 days ago) got lost: 
I can take

> Orphan link-grammar

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Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-07-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 00:05 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

> > as I always point out when this comes up, in the hopes that it'll
> > eventually irritate someone enough that they go fix the feature process,
> > the option is open to simply put Java 7 in without it being a 'Fedora
> > feature'. If you do it that way, you could do it right up to, hmm, the
> > post-Beta final freeze without there being any firm policy grounds on
> > which to object to the change. it's only if you declare it to be a
> > Feature that FESCo is clearly empowered to tell you you can't do it. ;)
> > 
> > (I note with interest Toshio's neat caveat to this, which appears later
> > in the thread.)
> >
> Actually, I'd consider this to be very bad advice.  There have been several
> Features over the past few releases that FESCo has decided on late.  Those
> things were sometimes made into features only after prompting by people who
> realized that the changes were unannounced features.
> 
> Things that require coordination between maintainers are a feature and FESCo
> has a right to veto them whether the authors of the feature have followed
> the feature process or not.  The policy encompasses anything defined as
> a feature:
> 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Definitions

I agree! It is very bad advice, and it wasn't actually meant as advice
(apologies for the very bad wording here, I had four hours of sleep last
night and wrote that on the tenth hour of a train ride), but more as my
traditional monthly snipe at the gap in the feature process. So, I went
and did something a bit more productive:

https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/653

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Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-07-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Deepak Bhole  wrote:

> * Toshio Kuratomi  [2011-07-23 20:03]:
> > On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 02:00:24PM -0700, Douglas Myers–Turnbull wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Just something I wanted to bring to attention:
> > >
> > > Java 7 is slated for release (after years of hassle and heated debate)
> > > on 28 July, 2011.
> > > I think this would be an important feature to include for the Fedora
> > > 16 release, and the months between Java's release and Fedora 16's 25
> > > October release would allow plenty of time to integrate Java 7. If I'm
> > > not mistaken, if Java 7 isn't released this time around, it won't be
> > > in Fedora until the Fedora 17 release rolls around, nearly a year (!)
> > > after Java 7 is released.
> > >
> > > I created an unfinished, skeletal feature page here:
> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Java7
> > > Unfortunately, I don't have the knowledge to help build it. I'm
> > > announcing it here in case whoever maintains Java 6 in Fedora, or
> > > someone else, is interested.
> > >
>
> I was planning to do this myself .. glad you started it :) I can take
> over the Feature and doing all the work if you're fine with it...
>
> > The alpha change deadline is a week and three days away so this is very
> > likely too late.  If you want to try to get an exception to get this in,
> you
> > need to get the Java SIG excited to do it, get the Feature page finished
> > (with estimates of how much time it will take to finish and who will do
> the
> > work) and put it before FESCo/Feature Wrangler to see if they'll grant an
> > exception.
> >
> > Judging by the state things are in now, I don't know that it looks too
> > hopeful unless you get some Java SIG people to commit to working on it.
> >
>
> This is doable by the Alpha deadline. The main holdup for us has been a
> lack of OpenJDK TCK for v7. The actual RPM can be written fairly
> quickly. We were hopeful that we'd be able to push a more tested initial
> version. But given the deadlines, it appears we will have to push
> whatever we have right now and modify/fix it as needed when we have the
> TCK.
>
>
Personally I would much sooner you wait until the feature deadline has
passed and we've branched the release and then push it directly to the new
F-17 rawhide so a better impact of what it breaks can be seen. If at that
point its all fairly minor only then review and see what it would take to
push back into F-16. A rushed effort will only cause chaos right when we're
suppose to be tightening and stabilising the release.

If java se 7 was going to be in F-16 there should have been RCs in there for
some time, the rough date for release has been known for some time and it
should be planned.

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orphaning / looking for new owner for monkey-bubble

2011-07-26 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi,

I've been thinking about orphaning monkey-bubble for a while now,
mostly because it is dead upstream and it is using various obsolete
gnome technologies (esound, libgnomeui, bonobo).

Yesterday it came to my attention that monkey-bubble also contains
at least 1 sound sample which we should not be re-distributing, as
well as various sound samples from unclear origin. This has helped
me make up my mind, and unless someone else jumps in to take it over
(and fix the sound sample situation) I'm going to orphan it.

So anyone want to take over monkey-bubble?

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Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:22:08PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 14:00 -0700, Douglas Myers–Turnbull wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Just something I wanted to bring to attention:
> > 
> > Java 7 is slated for release (after years of hassle and heated debate)
> > on 28 July, 2011.
> > I think this would be an important feature to include for the Fedora
> > 16 release, and the months between Java's release and Fedora 16's 25
> > October release would allow plenty of time to integrate Java 7. If I'm
> > not mistaken, if Java 7 isn't released this time around, it won't be
> > in Fedora until the Fedora 17 release rolls around, nearly a year (!)
> > after Java 7 is released.
> > 
> > I created an unfinished, skeletal feature page here:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Java7
> > Unfortunately, I don't have the knowledge to help build it. I'm
> > announcing it here in case whoever maintains Java 6 in Fedora, or
> > someone else, is interested.
> 
> as I always point out when this comes up, in the hopes that it'll
> eventually irritate someone enough that they go fix the feature process,
> the option is open to simply put Java 7 in without it being a 'Fedora
> feature'. If you do it that way, you could do it right up to, hmm, the
> post-Beta final freeze without there being any firm policy grounds on
> which to object to the change. it's only if you declare it to be a
> Feature that FESCo is clearly empowered to tell you you can't do it. ;)
> 
> (I note with interest Toshio's neat caveat to this, which appears later
> in the thread.)
>
Actually, I'd consider this to be very bad advice.  There have been several
Features over the past few releases that FESCo has decided on late.  Those
things were sometimes made into features only after prompting by people who
realized that the changes were unannounced features.

Things that require coordination between maintainers are a feature and FESCo
has a right to veto them whether the authors of the feature have followed
the feature process or not.  The policy encompasses anything defined as
a feature:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Definitions

-Toshio


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