Re: Release criteria proposal: first boot experience

2020-09-07 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Monday, September 7, 2020 7:25:49 AM MST Martin Kolman wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-09-01 at 19:15 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> 
> > On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 1:22:26 PM MST Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > We currently have a bug where the Online Accounts page in initial setup
> > > 
> > > is nonfunctional. [1] This doesn't violate any current release 
> > > criterion, but surely we don't want to release with a broken initial 
> > > setup experience. So let's add a new requirement for that. How about 
> > > something like:
> > > 
> > > "If an initial setup utility is run or intended to be run after the 
> > > first boot of the installed system, then it must start successfully and
> > > 
> > > each page or panel of the initial setup utility should withstand a 
> > > basic functionality test."
> > > 
> > > OK that's pretty basic, but it gets the point across. I think this can 
> > > be a final requirement, not necessarily important enough to be a beta 
> > > requirement. Bikeshed away!
> > > 
> > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1870476
> > 
> > 
> > I would like to report a bug with the first boot experience:
> > 
> > Upon installing a new GNOME system, I'm accosted with a dialog asking me 
> > questions about the system I just finished configuring in Anaconda. Is
> > there  something in Anaconda I'm missing to disable this behavior, or do
> > I have to write my own kickstart to fix that?
> 
> You can use the "fistboot --disable" command if you are installing via
> kickstart:
> https://pykickstart.readthedocs.io/en/latest/kickstart-docs.html#firstboot 
> That should disable all post installation setup tools (Initial Setup, Gnome
> Initial Setup).

I'm aware, I use kickstarts for the RHEL systems I deploy at work, but was 
hoping there'd be some option in the GUI for the graphical variants. It gets 
very annoying very quickly. ;)

Thank you.

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Re: BTRFS, relatime vs. noatime

2020-09-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 6:30 AM Kamil Paral  wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 1:37 AM Chris Murphy  wrote:
>>
>> But if you've got a snapshot once per day, times ten days, and this kind of 
>> aggressive search function touching every file? Maybe an extra 1-2G of 
>> metadata being pinned
>
>
> I don't follow. If you have one master copy and 10 snapshots, and you change 
> the metadata on the master copy, why would it generate more metadata (than 
> when having a single snapshot)? All those snapshots can share the same 
> metadata block (provided the file wasn't changed in the meantime) and just 
> the master copy would get a new metadata block. So it should be the same 
> amount of newly written blocks, regardless of how many snapshots you have. 
> What am I missing?

Take the case of no snapshots, and also I'll just use "blocks"  to
refer to both metadata and data extents.

The normal "modify something" pattern for copy-on-write is to write
updated blocks into free space. It's never an overwrite. Even deleting
a file requires some free space to write blocks indicating the file's
deletion. Only once the new blocks are committed to stable media, are
stale blocks deallocated (turned into free space). The resulting write
pattern is: write changes into free space -> free space is reduced ->
delay -> remove references to the stale blocks -> free space
increases. If it's just atime updates happening, the net change in
used space is zero.

Now, let's snapshot. The effect of a snapshot on a copy-on-write file
system is that the "stale" blocks are preserved. They aren't
deallocated. This is why Btrfs snapshots are cheap. The snapshot
effectively prevents the deallocation and clean up steps. Since
there's no deallocation step, free space does not go up. The net
change in used space goes up upon metadata updates following the
snapshot. If I take no further snapshots, this is just a one time hit.
Subsequent changes resume the normal pattern: write
new->delay->deallocate stale = no net change. But upon snapshotting
again, I pin that subvolume's state at that moment in time.


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License correction for python-glad: MIT -> MIT and ASL 2.0

2020-09-07 Thread Elliott Sales de Andrade
Hi,

Upstream has clarified their license as they embed some Knronos/EGL
specifications under a different license.

Thus, the package's license has changed from MIT to MIT and ASL 2.0.

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Fedora-Rawhide-20200907.n.0 compose check report

2020-09-07 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check!
3 of 43 required tests failed
openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** 
below

Failed openQA tests: 12/181 (x86_64)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20200906.n.0):

ID: 657056  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso 
server_role_deploy_domain_controller **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657056
ID: 657061  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_realmd_join_kickstart 
**GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657061
ID: 657072  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657072
ID: 657142  Test: x86_64 universal support_server
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657142
ID: 657204  Test: x86_64 universal install_iscsi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657204

Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20200906.n.0):

ID: 657074  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657074
ID: 657101  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657101
ID: 657109  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso release_identification
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657109
ID: 657130  Test: x86_64 universal install_mirrorlist_graphical **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657130
ID: 657135  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657135
ID: 657170  Test: x86_64 universal install_cyrillic_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657170
ID: 657197  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_realmd_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657197

Soft failed openQA tests: 11/181 (x86_64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20200906.n.0):

ID: 657026  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vncconnect_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657026
ID: 657045  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vnc_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657045
ID: 657085  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_printing
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657085
ID: 657105  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657105
ID: 657108  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657108
ID: 657122  Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657122
ID: 657144  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657144
ID: 657151  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_minimal_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657151
ID: 657152  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_minimal_uefi@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657152
ID: 657156  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657156
ID: 657178  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_realmd_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657178

Passed openQA tests: 158/181 (x86_64)

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Workstation-live-iso 
install_default_upload: 
System load changed from 0.93 to 1.14
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/656406#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657069#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Workstation-live-iso 
install_default@uefi: 
Used swap changed from 31 MiB to 41 MiB
System load changed from 0.65 to 0.48
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/656408#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657071#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi: 
System load changed from 0.74 to 0.95
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/656426#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657089#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso 
install_default_upload: 
Used swap changed from 19 MiB to 17 MiB
System load changed from 0.31 to 0.47
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/656442#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657105#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso 
install_default@uefi: 
Used swap changed from 24 MiB to 20 MiB
System load changed from 0.24 to 0.37
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/656445#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657108#downloads


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Re: Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-09-07

2020-09-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Sep 07, 2020 at 12:34:05PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> + Communication: repurposing the Fedora Btrfs wiki as a landing page
> is a work-in-progress
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Btrfs

I prefer end-user documentation to not be in the wiki, because it's an easy
click away to a lot of not-intended-for-end-users drafts, out-of-date and
partial information, user pages, etc. My recommendation is to put this in
the quick-docs https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/ and make
that page be a redirect.

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Btrfs by default status updates, 2020-09-07

2020-09-07 Thread Chris Murphy
+ F33 Btrfs By Default Test Week has concluded

Test results page
https://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/92

Perhaps the most significant issue discovered is something of an edge
case. The installer has performance issues when it encounters a Btrfs
file system with many snapshots (500+ in this case). Untested, but
since the handling is the same, I'd expect a similar issue with many
LVM thin snapshots.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1876162#c23
---

+ Subset of test day: There are two new test cases of interest that
will hopefully be turned into Quick Docs:

QA:Testcase partitioning custom btrfs preserve home
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_partitioning_custom_btrfs_preserve_home

Draft: dual boot Fedoras - is a variation on the above test case. This
is mostly leveraging BootLoaderSpec. The Btrfs part is incidental. But
by using separate subvolumes for the different system roots for each
Fedora, we're able to share a single Btrfs file system for much better
space utilization. A future feature might be to dedup them.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sumantrom/Draft/dualboot_f33_btrfs
---

+ Documentation: preliminary install-guide updates
https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/install-guide/pull-request/55
https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/install-guide/pull-request/56
---

+ Communication: repurposing the Fedora Btrfs wiki as a landing page
is a work-in-progress
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Btrfs
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+ devel@ discussion on possibly defaulting to noatime
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/QXOM3QILEOYQ5CBSBZ5GMO5ZWQHHYZI7/#QXOM3QILEOYQ5CBSBZ5GMO5ZWQHHYZI7


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Re: Looking for new Python package maintainers

2020-09-07 Thread Andy Mender
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 07:44, Dhanesh B. Sabane 
wrote:

> Hello folks!
>
> I've been away from all Fedora activities for quite some time and I
> don't see a return anytime soon. There are 6 Python packages which are
> maintained by me and I'd like to hand them over. Following is the list
> of packages:
>
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/user/dhanesh95/projects
>
> Please let me know if anyone would like to take these up by replying to
> this email. I'll orphan all the packages that don't attract a
> maintainer till Sunday, 13th Sept 2020.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
If there are no takers, I'd like to maintain the python-blindspinner
package. I see there is some room to bring in its "click" dependencies.
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Re: Release criteria proposal: first boot experience

2020-09-07 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 2:24 AM Kamil Paral  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 8:17 PM Adam Williamson  
> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 12:12 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:57 pm, Kamil Paral  wrote:
>> > > Overall I find the criterion reasonable and useful and I'm +1 to
>> > > incorporating it. Its current phrasing seems fine to me.
>> >
>> > So how does the process of adding the new criterion work? I guess we
>> > should leave the weekend for additional comment, in case anybody wants
>> > to suggest improvements, but it'd be nice to get this incorporated into
>> > the release criteria and repropose the gnome-initial-setup bug.
>>
>> To be honest it's something we've never had the roundtuits to write up
>> in a nice clean policy. The convention is basically: once a draft has
>> been up for a while (say, a week or two, depending on urgency) without
>> significant objections, you just go ahead and add it to the wiki. i.e.
>> it's a fuzzy consensus system. :)
>
>
> Yes, but I find it concerning that I was the only one who provided feedback 
> to this proposal. It might have been partially caused by the fact that it 
> wasn't sent to the test list. I urge everyone who has some opinion on this to 
> provide it, at least in the form of a thumbs up. Thanks.

:thumbsup:

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Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-07 Thread Bohdan Khomutskyi

Hello Kamil,

> Bohdan, could you build the same image in several configurations (the 
most likely candidates) and share them with us? (We can host them in our 
QA fedorapeople space, if needed). That would allow interested parties 
to test and benchmark the experience themselves.


I'll provide ISO images for testing at some point. One part of this 
change (https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/871#request_diff) 
was briefly included in the Rawhide compose for testing. This resulted 
in reduction of the DVD and BOOT.iso size by approximately ~24MiB 
without changing the compression parameters. The compose is available at 
the URI [1]. But due to the problem identified in anaconda's dracut 
module, the images were unbootable. I proposed a fix to the problem in 
https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/2820.



[1] 
https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/rawhide/Fedora-Rawhide-20200828.n.0/compose/Server/x86_64/iso/


On 01/09/2020 14:13, Kamil Paral wrote:
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:55 AM Michel Alexandre Salim 
mailto:mic...@michel-slm.name>> wrote:


On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 11:13 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OptimizeSquashFS
>
> == Summary ==
> Improve compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem on the installation
> media.
>
...
>
> Based on the results above, I'd suggest selecting the following
> ''optimal configuration'': XZ algorithm, with block size of 1MiB and
> without BCJ filter (plain xz -b 1M, without -Xbcj x86).
> On the right, you can see the impact of the compression
algorithms on
> installation time.
>
Why XZ as opposed to, say, ZSTD?


Bohdan's preference seems to be to make the images smaller. I'm in the 
opposite camp. I'd like to keep the images roughly the same size (or 
smaller, but just a bit smaller, not as small as possible) and hugely 
speed up the installation instead. Which means zstd in one of the 
configurations. Each image is downloaded just once, but installed 1+ 
times. And with automation and all the CI work which Fedora and Red 
Hat invests a lot of effort into, it can be a hundred installations 
from a single image (without being bound to slow USB stick transfer 
speeds, as in the proposal). Of course, I'm biased.


Bohdan, could you build the same image in several configurations (the 
most likely candidates) and share them with us? (We can host them in 
our QA fedorapeople space, if needed). That would allow interested 
parties to test and benchmark the experience themselves.



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Fedora-IoT-33-20200907.0 compose check report

2020-09-07 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Failed openQA tests: 1/16 (x86_64)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-IoT-33-20200906.0):

ID: 657523  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_clevis
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657523

Passed openQA tests: 15/16 (x86_64)

Installed system changes in test x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso 
install_default_upload: 
System load changed from 0.08 to 0.38
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/656724#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657524#downloads
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[Test-Announce] Blocker Review discussion tickets -- now available

2020-09-07 Thread Kamil Paral
Hello everyone,

I'd like to announce a new project of the QA team and an extension of the
BlockerBugs App [1]. The blocker and freeze exception proposals can now not
only be discussed during regular blocker review meetings [2], but also at
any time through discussion tickets hosted on Pagure [3]. So even if you
don't have time to participate in the meeting, you can still participate
and vote in those discussion tickets.

This will be mostly interesting to people who participated in blocker
review meetings in the past, but we hope we can attract new participants
this way. It is also very useful for package maintainers and developers,
because they can now easily provide feedback regarding a proposed blocker
or a freeze exception without attending a meeting at a particular time or
diluting a technical discussion in Bugzilla.

To participate, open the BlockerBugs App for a particular milestone (e.g.
F33 Beta [4]) and you'll see "Vote!" and "Discuss" links for
proposed/accepted blockers and freeze exceptions. Follow the links to see
tickets where you can express your opinion (which should ideally reflect
our release criteria [5]). You can vote according to the guide present at
[3], please read it carefully. A bot is following each ticket, updating the
voting summary, and accepting certain commands. Watching the Pagure repo
[3] also gives you the option to get notified about every new proposed
blocker/freeze exception.

We've been using these discussions for a week or two now (I apologize for a
late announcement) and so far our existing practice seems to be to vote for
proposals throughout the week using these discussion tickets, close those
which we can easily get enough votes and agree on, and discuss the
remainder during the next blocker review meeting. So the regular blocker
review meeting hasn't been replaced, but we use the discussion tickets to
cut down on the meeting length. We're still trying to figure out the best
approach to take here, so nothing is set in stone. The voting functionality
itself is also still in development, we'll try to provide new features and
improve the experience based on your feedback.

I'll be happy to answer questions, if there are any.
Thanks,
Kamil
Fedora QA

PS: Development credits go to Lukas Brabec, Frantisek Zatloukal, Tim Flink,
Josef Skladanka and Adam Williamson.

[1] https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
[3] https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review
[4] https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/33/beta/buglist
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria
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Fedora-33-20200907.n.0 compose check report

2020-09-07 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Failed openQA tests: 10/181 (x86_64)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-33-20200906.n.0):

ID: 657220  Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657220
ID: 657266  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657266
ID: 657302  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso desktop_browser
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657302

Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-33-20200906.n.0):

ID: 657294  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_background
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657294
ID: 657296  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657296
ID: 657325  Test: x86_64 universal install_mirrorlist_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657325
ID: 657330  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657330
ID: 657351  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657351
ID: 657373  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_realmd_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657373
ID: 657392  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_realmd_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657392

Soft failed openQA tests: 9/181 (x86_64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-33-20200906.n.0):

ID: 657221  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vncconnect_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657221
ID: 657240  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vnc_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657240
ID: 657267  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657267
ID: 657280  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_printing
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657280
ID: 657300  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657300
ID: 657303  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657303
ID: 657317  Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657317
ID: 657329  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_minimal_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657329
ID: 657354  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_minimal_uefi@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657354

Passed openQA tests: 162/181 (x86_64)

New passes (same test not passed in Fedora-33-20200906.n.0):

ID: 657285  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657285

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Workstation-live-iso 
install_default_upload: 
System load changed from 1.22 to 0.57
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/656587#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657264#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default_upload: 
Used swap changed from 14 MiB to 10 MiB
System load changed from 1.33 to 1.65
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/656606#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657283#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi: 
Average CPU usage changed from 22.60952381 to 10.47142857
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/656607#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657284#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso 
install_default_upload: 
Used swap changed from 20 MiB to 25 MiB
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/656623#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657300#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso 
install_default@uefi: 
Used swap changed from 30 MiB to 25 MiB
System load changed from 0.20 to 0.31
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/656626#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657303#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 universal install_package_set_kde: 
Used swap changed from 1 MiB to 8 MiB
System load changed from 1.35 to 1.21
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/656667#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657344#downloads


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Re: Release criteria proposal: first boot experience

2020-09-07 Thread Martin Kolman
On Tue, 2020-09-01 at 19:15 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 1:22:26 PM MST Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > We currently have a bug where the Online Accounts page in initial setup 
> > is nonfunctional. [1] This doesn't violate any current release 
> > criterion, but surely we don't want to release with a broken initial 
> > setup experience. So let's add a new requirement for that. How about 
> > something like:
> > 
> > "If an initial setup utility is run or intended to be run after the 
> > first boot of the installed system, then it must start successfully and 
> > each page or panel of the initial setup utility should withstand a 
> > basic functionality test."
> > 
> > OK that's pretty basic, but it gets the point across. I think this can 
> > be a final requirement, not necessarily important enough to be a beta 
> > requirement. Bikeshed away!
> > 
> > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1870476
> 
> I would like to report a bug with the first boot experience:
> 
> Upon installing a new GNOME system, I'm accosted with a dialog asking me 
> questions about the system I just finished configuring in Anaconda. Is there 
> something in Anaconda I'm missing to disable this behavior, or do I have to 
> write my own kickstart to fix that?
You can use the "fistboot --disable" command if you are installing via 
kickstart:
https://pykickstart.readthedocs.io/en/latest/kickstart-docs.html#firstboot

That should disable all post installation setup tools (Initial Setup, Gnome 
Initial Setup).

> 
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libcbor-0.7.0 SONAME change

2020-09-07 Thread Attila Lakatos
Hi all,

The new version of libcbor package will arrive soon and there are going to be 
some changes.
SONAME change: "libcbor.so.0" to "libcbor.so.0.7" (More info: 
https://github.com/PJK/libcbor/issues/52)
Rename cbor_ctrl_is_bool to cbor_get_bool (More info: 
https://github.com/PJK/libcbor/issues/63)

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Fedora-IoT-34-20200907.0 compose check report

2020-09-07 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images:

Iot dvd aarch64
Iot dvd x86_64

Failed openQA tests: 2/16 (x86_64)

ID: 657453  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_clevis
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657453
ID: 657459  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso base_services_start
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/657459

Passed openQA tests: 14/16 (x86_64)
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Fedora 33 compose report: 20200907.n.0 changes

2020-09-07 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-33-20200906.n.0
NEW: Fedora-33-20200907.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added images:0
Dropped images:  0
Added packages:  0
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages:   0
Downgraded packages: 0

Size of added packages:  0 B
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of upgraded packages:   0 B
Size of downgraded packages: 0 B

Size change of upgraded packages:   0 B
Size change of downgraded packages: 0 B

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Re: BTRFS, relatime vs. noatime

2020-09-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 8:30 AM Kamil Paral  wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 1:37 AM Chris Murphy  wrote:
>>
>> But if you've got a snapshot once per day, times ten days, and this kind of 
>> aggressive search function touching every file? Maybe an extra 1-2G of 
>> metadata being pinned
>
>
> I don't follow. If you have one master copy and 10 snapshots, and you change 
> the metadata on the master copy, why would it generate more metadata (than 
> when having a single snapshot)? All those snapshots can share the same 
> metadata block (provided the file wasn't changed in the meantime) and just 
> the master copy would get a new metadata block. So it should be the same 
> amount of newly written blocks, regardless of how many snapshots you have. 
> What am I missing?

When you have snapshots, you initially share all the same blocks.
However, as you continue to make changes, fewer of the blocks are
shared as new blocks are allocated for new changes. This is also true
for metadata, except that this situation results in the filesystem
making new instances of the metadata for most of its files. However,
because you have snapshots, the old instances cannot be deleted
either. Thus, you wind up with essentially a new copy of the
filesystem metadata. This is amplified as you take more snapshots.

This is the *expensive* part of snapshots and the part that people
don't necessarily realize: when you take a snapshot, you're asking for
the preservation of the entire filesystem tree, with all its data. If
you take a snapshot, then change the atimes of all the files, take a
snapshot again, then change the atimes again, you wind up having two
whole unshared instances of the filesystem snapshotted. It's
essentially the worst case scenario for filesystem metadata.

Of course, this is cheap to *make*, but expensive to *keep* as you run
out of space due to just having so many unique copies of filesystem
metadata. This is why it's often recommended that atimes are switched
off on parts of the filesystem you wish to aggressively snapshot. For
example, most of the time you don't really care about atimes for /usr
and /etc, so you can turn atimes off for that, while leaving it on for
/var and /home.

Now, we are not setting up snapshotting automatically in Fedora like
openSUSE does, so there's not as much pressure to deal with it now.
But if we make a straightforward way for people to set up
snapshotting, then part of that strategy needs to include dealing with
that problem.



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Re: BTRFS, relatime vs. noatime

2020-09-07 Thread Kamil Paral
On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 1:37 AM Chris Murphy  wrote:

> But if you've got a snapshot once per day, times ten days, and this kind
> of aggressive search function touching every file? Maybe an extra 1-2G of
> metadata being pinned
>

I don't follow. If you have one master copy and 10 snapshots, and you
change the metadata on the master copy, why would it generate more metadata
(than when having a single snapshot)? All those snapshots can share the
same metadata block (provided the file wasn't changed in the meantime) and
just the master copy would get a new metadata block. So it should be the
same amount of newly written blocks, regardless of how many snapshots you
have. What am I missing?
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Re: Looking for new Python package maintainers

2020-09-07 Thread Dhanesh B. Sabane
Hey Pruthvi,

> I am looking for packages to maintain and this would help a lot.
> 

Do let me know the package that you'd like to maintain and I'll add you as a 
co-maintainer for it.

Have a good one!

Cheers!

Dhanesh Sabane
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Re: Looking for new Python package maintainers

2020-09-07 Thread Dhanesh B. Sabane
Hello Lumir,

> I'd like to maintain:
> 
> python-first
> python-pipdeptree
> python-pipreqs
> python-yarg
> 
> These are dependencies of pipenv we (@python-sig) maintain so please add 
> me as an admin and this group as co-maintainer.
> 

I've added you as admin and @python-sig as committer for the requested 
packages. Thank you for taking ownership of these packages! :)

Have a good one!

Cheers!

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Re: noarch packages only for some architecture composes

2020-09-07 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 1:02 PM Florian Weimer  wrote:
>
> Is it possible to include a noarch package only in some of the composes?
>
> The background is that I added glibc-headers-x86.noarch to deal with a
> conflict between inconsistent composes (glibc-headers.i686 was sometimes
> in the x86_64 compose, sometimes it was not).  glibc-headers-x86.noarch
> is always in the compose, and thus avoids the issue.  But an
> unanticipated side effect is that glibc-headers-x86 (and
> glibc-headers-s390) show up across all architectures.  I'm concerned
> that this is potentially confusing.

I don't think this is possible, and since I consider this to be a bug,
I reported this a while ago:

koji#1843: noarch packages getting copied to repos explicitly excluded
in ExclusiveArch
https://pagure.io/koji/issue/1843

Fabio
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noarch packages only for some architecture composes

2020-09-07 Thread Florian Weimer
Is it possible to include a noarch package only in some of the composes?

The background is that I added glibc-headers-x86.noarch to deal with a
conflict between inconsistent composes (glibc-headers.i686 was sometimes
in the x86_64 compose, sometimes it was not).  glibc-headers-x86.noarch
is always in the compose, and thus avoids the issue.  But an
unanticipated side effect is that glibc-headers-x86 (and
glibc-headers-s390) show up across all architectures.  I'm concerned
that this is potentially confusing.

Thanks,
Florian
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Fedora rawhide compose report: 20200907.n.0 changes

2020-09-07 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20200906.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20200907.n.0

= SUMMARY =
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Added packages:  1
Dropped packages:0
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Downgraded packages: 0

Size of added packages:  64.95 KiB
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of upgraded packages:   3.17 GiB
Size of downgraded packages: 0 B

Size change of upgraded packages:   16.31 MiB
Size change of downgraded packages: 0 B

= ADDED IMAGES =
Image: LXQt raw-xz armhfp
Path: Spins/armhfp/images/Fedora-LXQt-armhfp-Rawhide-20200907.n.0-sda.raw.xz

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Fedora-Cloud-31-20200907.0 compose check report

2020-09-07 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Passed openQA tests: 7/7 (x86_64)
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Fedora-Cloud-32-20200907.0 compose check report

2020-09-07 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-32-20200905.0):

ID: 656801  Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/656801

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Re: Release criteria proposal: first boot experience

2020-09-07 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 8:17 PM Adam Williamson 
wrote:

> On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 12:12 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 12:57 pm, Kamil Paral  wrote:
> > > Overall I find the criterion reasonable and useful and I'm +1 to
> > > incorporating it. Its current phrasing seems fine to me.
> >
> > So how does the process of adding the new criterion work? I guess we
> > should leave the weekend for additional comment, in case anybody wants
> > to suggest improvements, but it'd be nice to get this incorporated into
> > the release criteria and repropose the gnome-initial-setup bug.
>
> To be honest it's something we've never had the roundtuits to write up
> in a nice clean policy. The convention is basically: once a draft has
> been up for a while (say, a week or two, depending on urgency) without
> significant objections, you just go ahead and add it to the wiki. i.e.
> it's a fuzzy consensus system. :)
>

Yes, but I find it concerning that I was the only one who provided feedback
to this proposal. It might have been partially caused by the fact that it
wasn't sent to the test list. I urge everyone who has some opinion on this
to provide it, at least in the form of a thumbs up. Thanks.
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Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2020-09-07 Thread Miro Hrončok

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure
that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life

Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the affected
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retire your depending package to avoid broken dependencies, otherwise your
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Request package ownership via the *Take* button in he left column on
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grep it for your FAS username and follow the dependency chain.

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For all orphaned packages, see https://packager.fedorainfracloud.org/orphan

Package  (co)maintainers   Status Change

apache-commons-dbcp   mizdebsk, orphan 3 weeks ago
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  msuchy, orphan
dbus-java orphan   4 weeks ago
emacs-magit   orphan, petersen 0 weeks ago
fedora-icon-theme orphan   0 weeks ago
freight   orphan   0 weeks ago
fst   orphan   4 weeks ago
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golang-github-mholt-  orphan   1 weeks ago
certmagic-0.9
joda-time mizdebsk, orphan 3 weeks ago
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js-tag-it orphan   4 weeks ago
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libmatthew-java   orphan   4 weeks ago
liquibase awood, orphan4 weeks ago
man-pages-de  orphan, romal4 weeks ago
marble-widget orphan, rdieter  1 weeks ago
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mozilla-iot-gateway-addon-orphan   4 weeks ago
python
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nodejs-base   orphan   0 weeks ago
nodejs-bcrypt nodejs-sig, orphan   0 weeks ago
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nodejs-global-prefix  nodejs-sig, orphan   0 weeks ago
nodejs-grunt  nodejs-sig, orphan, patches, 2 weeks ago
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  piotrp

Re: BZ + Firefox: browser freezes when choosing close reason?

2020-09-07 Thread Martin Stransky

Hi Till,

please install firefox-x11 package and use Firefox X11 to test if it's 
caused by Wayland backend.


Also please file a new bug at #BZ so it can be diagnosed  more, i.e. 
test Mozilla binaries, disable extensions etc..


Thanks,
Martin

On 9/5/20 2:50 PM, Till Hofmann wrote:

Hi all,

I'm having a weird problem with Bugzilla: Whenever I want to close an
issue and I click on the reason menu (the one that shows NOTABUG,
NEXTRELEASE etc.), my browser freezes. Is anyone else seeing this issue?

I've tried to search for similar bug reports, but searching for
"bugzilla firefox bug status" obviously doesn't result in anything useful.

I've seen this for a couple of weeks now. This is on Fedora 32 with
Firefox 80.0.1.

Kind regards,
Till
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