Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
On Friday 22 November 2013 14:32 Robin Burchell wrote: > Ahoy, > > In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to use a > “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our attention > that this isn’t factually possible at this time due to limitations in Qt > Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time limitations - so > as to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans. > > The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix of > “harbour-“. > > The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that applications > do not clash with other installed packages on the device. > > We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should you > have any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an e-mail as > always! I'm a bit late to read this thread, and while I understand it's an inconvenience that you can't *create* a project using the dotted notation form, it is possible to change the project afterwards, so why not for a short period allow both naming schemes? The dotted notation form has several advantages over the harbour- prefix; avoiding name clashing as the most important. It's not like it's thousands of submitted apps that will either have to be maintained with the harbour- prefix, or go through a relatively easy transition once the SDK has been updated. -- Med venlig hilsen / Best Regards Thomas Tanghus ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
Ronni, thanks a lot for your advices Sure being among the first mover I expect disadvantages of it as well :) Unfortunately for now IRC and mailing list seem to be the only way to get help. That is unless care email ignores specifically my questions. Cheers, Artem. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Jonni Rainisto wrote: > Hi, > > developer-care at jolla.com should be able to answer that one. All my > answers are just AFAIK as I'm not in the team that does the Harbour and > it's policies. My guess would be that unfortunately one more rename is > needed. > > I already renamed couple of my personal projects and submitted them in > (still in QA). > > -- > *From:* devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [ > devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrey Kozhevnikov [ > coderusin...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:35 PM > *To:* devel@lists.sailfishos.org > > *Subject:* Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour > applications > > if i already build and sent to Harbour my org.coderus.persecute > application, i should rebuild it now to harbour-persecute? =( > > On 23.11.2013 18:34, Jonni Rainisto wrote: > > Hi, > > Whoever grabs the name first keeps it (AFAIK). So of someone before you > takes harbour-videocam, you can do something like harbour-videocam-artem or > some other unique name. > > So if $NAME == harbour-videocam then: > /usr/bin/$NAME == /usr/bin/harbour-videocam > /usr/share/$NAME == /usr/share/harbour-videocam > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/$NAME.png == > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/harbour-videocam.png > > So forget the domain names with dots as current tools dont really support > them currently. > > -- > *From:* devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [ > devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Artem Marchenko [ > artem.marche...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:26 PM > *To:* Sailfish OS Developers > *Subject:* Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour > applications > > What if there are two packages in app store named harbour-videocam? > Or whoever grabs the name first keeps it? > > What about the main app binary name and it's data folder? > Shall they be harbour-videocam or com.supercell.videocam? Or > harbour-com.supercell.videocam? > > Cheers, > Artem. > > > On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Jonni Rainisto > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Domain part is not needed anymore, so its in the form of: >> >> harbour-applicationname >> >> That way for example "harbour-videocam"-package doesnt confilict with >> possible systems "videocam"-package. >> >> ---------- >> *From:* devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [ >> devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of zoltan.lu...@gmail.com [ >> zoltan.lu...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:59 AM >> *To:* Sailfish OS Developers >> *Subject:* Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour >> applications >> >>will such name be accepted by package uploader of Jolla Harbour? >> >> >> '_' were not accepted before there... >> >> Andrey Kozhevnikov írta ekkor: 2013.11.22. 15:39 >> really? >> >> harbour-org.coderus.application >> >> how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device >> packages? >> >> why? >> >> On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: >> > Ahoy, >> > >> > In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to >> use a “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our >> attention that this isn’t factually possible at this time due to >> limitations in Qt Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time >> limitations - so as to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans. >> > >> > The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix >> of “harbour-“. >> > >> > The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that >> applications do not clash with other installed packages on the device. >> > >> > We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should >> you have any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an >> e-mail as always! >> > >> > P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store >> requirements) in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen crops >> up. >> > >> > Happy hacking,
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
Hi, developer-care at jolla.com<http://jolla.com> should be able to answer that one. All my answers are just AFAIK as I'm not in the team that does the Harbour and it's policies. My guess would be that unfortunately one more rename is needed. I already renamed couple of my personal projects and submitted them in (still in QA). From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Andrey Kozhevnikov [coderusin...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 2:35 PM To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications if i already build and sent to Harbour my org.coderus.persecute application, i should rebuild it now to harbour-persecute? =( On 23.11.2013 18:34, Jonni Rainisto wrote: Hi, Whoever grabs the name first keeps it (AFAIK). So of someone before you takes harbour-videocam, you can do something like harbour-videocam-artem or some other unique name. So if $NAME == harbour-videocam then: /usr/bin/$NAME == /usr/bin/harbour-videocam /usr/share/$NAME == /usr/share/harbour-videocam /usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/$NAME.png == /usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/harbour-videocam.png So forget the domain names with dots as current tools dont really support them currently. From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org<mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org> [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org<mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org>] on behalf of Artem Marchenko [artem.marche...@gmail.com<mailto:artem.marche...@gmail.com>] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:26 PM To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications What if there are two packages in app store named harbour-videocam? Or whoever grabs the name first keeps it? What about the main app binary name and it's data folder? Shall they be harbour-videocam or com.supercell.videocam? Or harbour-com.supercell.videocam? Cheers, Artem. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Jonni Rainisto mailto:jonni.raini...@jolla.com>> wrote: Hi, Domain part is not needed anymore, so its in the form of: harbour-applicationname That way for example "harbour-videocam"-package doesnt confilict with possible systems "videocam"-package. From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org<mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org> [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org<mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org>] on behalf of zoltan.lu...@gmail.com<mailto:zoltan.lu...@gmail.com> [zoltan.lu...@gmail.com<mailto:zoltan.lu...@gmail.com>] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:59 AM To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications will such name be accepted by package uploader of Jolla Harbour? '_' were not accepted before there... Andrey Kozhevnikov írta ekkor: 2013.11.22. 15:39 really? harbour-org.coderus.application how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device packages? why? On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: > Ahoy, > > In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to use a > “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our attention that > this isn’t factually possible at this time due to limitations in Qt > Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time limitations - so as > to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans. > > The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix of > “harbour-“. > > The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that applications > do not clash with other installed packages on the device. > > We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should you have > any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an e-mail as always! > > P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store requirements) > in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen crops up. > > Happy hacking, > The Jolla Crew > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Artem Marchenko http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com http://twitter.com/AgileArtem ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
if i already build and sent to Harbour my org.coderus.persecute
application, i should rebuild it now to harbour-persecute? =(
On 23.11.2013 18:34, Jonni Rainisto wrote:
Hi,
Whoever grabs the name first keeps it (AFAIK). So of someone before
you takes harbour-videocam, you can do something like
harbour-videocam-artem or some other unique name.
So if $NAME == harbour-videocam then:
/usr/bin/$NAME == /usr/bin/harbour-videocam
/usr/share/$NAME == /usr/share/harbour-videocam
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/$NAME.png ==
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/harbour-videocam.png
So forget the domain names with dots as current tools dont really
support them currently.
*From:* devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
[devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Artem Marchenko
[artem.marche...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:26 PM
*To:* Sailfish OS Developers
*Subject:* Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for
Harbour applications
What if there are two packages in app store named harbour-videocam?
Or whoever grabs the name first keeps it?
What about the main app binary name and it's data folder?
Shall they be harbour-videocam or com.supercell.videocam? Or
harbour-com.supercell.videocam?
Cheers,
Artem.
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Jonni Rainisto
mailto:jonni.raini...@jolla.com>> wrote:
Hi,
Domain part is not needed anymore, so its in the form of:
harbour-applicationname
That way for example "harbour-videocam"-package doesnt confilict
with possible systems "videocam"-package.
*From:* devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
<mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org>
[devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
<mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org>] on behalf of
zoltan.lu...@gmail.com <mailto:zoltan.lu...@gmail.com>
[zoltan.lu...@gmail.com <mailto:zoltan.lu...@gmail.com>]
*Sent:* Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:59 AM
*To:* Sailfish OS Developers
*Subject:* Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for
Harbour applications
will such name be accepted by package uploader of Jolla Harbour?
'_' were not accepted before there...
Andrey Kozhevnikov írta ekkor: 2013.11.22. 15
:39
really?
harbour-org.coderus.application
how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device
packages?
why?
On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote:
> Ahoy,
>
> In Iekku's mail yesterday, we referred to application names
needing to use a "dotted" form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was
brought to our attention that this isn't factually possible at
this time due to limitations in Qt Creator/qmake, so we're
unfortunately forced due to time limitations - so as to not
inconvenience you developers - to change plans.
>
> The new requirement is that application names must start with a
prefix of "harbour-".
>
> The reason (if it wasn't clear) for this requirement is so that
applications do not clash with other installed packages on the device.
>
> We're very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding.
Should you have any questions on this or anything else, feel free
to send an e-mail as always!
>
> P.S. We'll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store
requirements) in detail early next week, unless anything
unforeseen crops up.
>
> Happy hacking,
> The Jolla Crew
> ___
> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
___
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___
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http://twitter.com/AgileArtem
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
Hi, Whoever grabs the name first keeps it (AFAIK). So of someone before you takes harbour-videocam, you can do something like harbour-videocam-artem or some other unique name. So if $NAME == harbour-videocam then: /usr/bin/$NAME == /usr/bin/harbour-videocam /usr/share/$NAME == /usr/share/harbour-videocam /usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/$NAME.png == /usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps/harbour-videocam.png So forget the domain names with dots as current tools dont really support them currently. From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of Artem Marchenko [artem.marche...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 1:26 PM To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications What if there are two packages in app store named harbour-videocam? Or whoever grabs the name first keeps it? What about the main app binary name and it's data folder? Shall they be harbour-videocam or com.supercell.videocam? Or harbour-com.supercell.videocam? Cheers, Artem. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Jonni Rainisto mailto:jonni.raini...@jolla.com>> wrote: Hi, Domain part is not needed anymore, so its in the form of: harbour-applicationname That way for example "harbour-videocam"-package doesnt confilict with possible systems "videocam"-package. From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org<mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org> [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org<mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org>] on behalf of zoltan.lu...@gmail.com<mailto:zoltan.lu...@gmail.com> [zoltan.lu...@gmail.com<mailto:zoltan.lu...@gmail.com>] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:59 AM To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications will such name be accepted by package uploader of Jolla Harbour? '_' were not accepted before there... Andrey Kozhevnikov írta ekkor: 2013.11.22. 15:39 really? harbour-org.coderus.application how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device packages? why? On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: > Ahoy, > > In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to use a > “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our attention that > this isn’t factually possible at this time due to limitations in Qt > Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time limitations - so as > to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans. > > The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix of > “harbour-“. > > The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that applications > do not clash with other installed packages on the device. > > We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should you have > any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an e-mail as always! > > P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store requirements) > in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen crops up. > > Happy hacking, > The Jolla Crew > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Artem Marchenko http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com http://twitter.com/AgileArtem ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
Jolla dont want to force developers manually edit project files to be
able to build dotted application names.
On 23.11.2013 17:26, Artem Marchenko wrote:
What if there are two packages in app store named harbour-videocam?
Or whoever grabs the name first keeps it?
What about the main app binary name and it's data folder?
Shall they be harbour-videocam or com.supercell.videocam? Or
harbour-com.supercell.videocam?
Cheers,
Artem.
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Jonni Rainisto
mailto:jonni.raini...@jolla.com>> wrote:
Hi,
Domain part is not needed anymore, so its in the form of:
harbour-applicationname
That way for example "harbour-videocam"-package doesnt confilict
with possible systems "videocam"-package.
*From:* devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
<mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org>
[devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org
<mailto:devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org>] on behalf of
zoltan.lu...@gmail.com <mailto:zoltan.lu...@gmail.com>
[zoltan.lu...@gmail.com <mailto:zoltan.lu...@gmail.com>]
*Sent:* Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:59 AM
*To:* Sailfish OS Developers
*Subject:* Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for
Harbour applications
will such name be accepted by package uploader of Jolla Harbour?
'_' were not accepted before there...
Andrey Kozhevnikov írta ekkor: 2013.11.22. 15
:39
really?
harbour-org.coderus.application
how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device
packages?
why?
On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote:
> Ahoy,
>
> In Iekku's mail yesterday, we referred to application names
needing to use a "dotted" form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was
brought to our attention that this isn't factually possible at
this time due to limitations in Qt Creator/qmake, so we're
unfortunately forced due to time limitations - so as to not
inconvenience you developers - to change plans.
>
> The new requirement is that application names must start with a
prefix of "harbour-".
>
> The reason (if it wasn't clear) for this requirement is so that
applications do not clash with other installed packages on the device.
>
> We're very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding.
Should you have any questions on this or anything else, feel free
to send an e-mail as always!
>
> P.S. We'll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store
requirements) in detail early next week, unless anything
unforeseen crops up.
>
> Happy hacking,
> The Jolla Crew
> ___
> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
___
SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
___
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--
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http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com
http://twitter.com/AgileArtem
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
What if there are two packages in app store named harbour-videocam? Or whoever grabs the name first keeps it? What about the main app binary name and it's data folder? Shall they be harbour-videocam or com.supercell.videocam? Or harbour-com.supercell.videocam? Cheers, Artem. On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Jonni Rainisto wrote: > Hi, > > Domain part is not needed anymore, so its in the form of: > > harbour-applicationname > > That way for example "harbour-videocam"-package doesnt confilict with > possible systems "videocam"-package. > > -- > *From:* devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [ > devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of zoltan.lu...@gmail.com [ > zoltan.lu...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:59 AM > *To:* Sailfish OS Developers > *Subject:* Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour > applications > >will such name be accepted by package uploader of Jolla Harbour? > > > '_' were not accepted before there... > > Andrey Kozhevnikov írta ekkor: 2013.11.22. 15:39 > really? > > harbour-org.coderus.application > > how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device > packages? > > why? > > On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: > > Ahoy, > > > > In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to > use a “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our > attention that this isn’t factually possible at this time due to > limitations in Qt Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time > limitations - so as to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans. > > > > The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix > of “harbour-“. > > > > The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that > applications do not clash with other installed packages on the device. > > > > We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should you > have any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an e-mail as > always! > > > > P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store > requirements) in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen crops > up. > > > > Happy hacking, > > The Jolla Crew > > ___ > > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > -- Artem Marchenko http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com http://twitter.com/AgileArtem ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
Hi, Domain part is not needed anymore, so its in the form of: harbour-applicationname That way for example "harbour-videocam"-package doesnt confilict with possible systems "videocam"-package. From: devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org [devel-boun...@lists.sailfishos.org] on behalf of zoltan.lu...@gmail.com [zoltan.lu...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 7:59 AM To: Sailfish OS Developers Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications will such name be accepted by package uploader of Jolla Harbour? '_' were not accepted before there... Andrey Kozhevnikov írta ekkor: 2013.11.22. 15:39 really? harbour-org.coderus.application how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device packages? why? On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: > Ahoy, > > In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to use a > “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our attention that > this isn’t factually possible at this time due to limitations in Qt > Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time limitations - so as > to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans. > > The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix of > “harbour-“. > > The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that applications > do not clash with other installed packages on the device. > > We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should you have > any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an e-mail as always! > > P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store requirements) > in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen crops up. > > Happy hacking, > The Jolla Crew > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
will such name be accepted by package uploader of Jolla Harbour? '_' were not accepted before there... Andrey Kozhevnikov írta ekkor: 2013.11.22. 15:39 really? harbour-org.coderus.application how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device packages? why? On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: > Ahoy, > > In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to use a > “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our attention that > this isn’t factually possible at this time due to limitations in Qt > Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time limitations - so as > to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans. > > The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix of > “harbour-“. > > The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that applications > do not clash with other installed packages on the device. > > We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should you have > any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an e-mail as always! > > P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store requirements) > in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen crops up. > > Happy hacking, > The Jolla Crew > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
Is this package name or binary name? Because I think you cannot use dots in the base name of the package, but the binary name should not be a problem to change. Or a dash or underline could replace the dot without other side effects I think... Luciano On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Artem Marchenko wrote: > So harbour-myapp or harbour-myapp-mydomain-com? :) > > Early next week sounds ok for development except for that we can't make it > for the launch date then :) > > Well, I trust you guys are considering whether to let the currently > submitted apps violate the new conditions for a while so that there would be > something Sailfish-native installable on the day one. > > Cheers, > Artem. > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Andrey Kozhevnikov > wrote: >> >> i need to rebuild everything again? :D >> >> >> On 22.11.2013 20:52, Reto Zingg wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 22.11.2013 16:47, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: ah, just harbour-application instead of domain naming? ok then sorry for misreading. but i compiled package with dots successfully. check my package in Harbour :) >>> >>> >>> yes renaming a existing project by hand works incl. build and compiling, >>> but you can't start a new SailfishOS project, which contains dots :-( >>> >>> And we want to stick to upstream QtCreator. >>> >>> br >>> Reto >>> On 22.11.2013 20:40, Reto Zingg wrote: > > Hi, > > On 22.11.2013 16:39, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: >> >> really? >> >> harbour-org.coderus.application >> >> how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device >> packages? >> >> why? > > > QtCreator does not allow it: > > > https://qt.gitorious.org/qt-creator/qt-creator/source/54636d9756966fab7365043d8fd255993675e935:src/libs/utils/projectnamevalidatinglineedit.cpp#L46 > > > br > Reto > >> On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: >>> >>> Ahoy, >>> >>> In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing >>> to >>> use a “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our >>> attention that this isn’t factually possible at this time due to >>> limitations in Qt Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to >>> time limitations - so as to not inconvenience you developers - to >>> change plans. >>> >>> The new requirement is that application names must start with a >>> prefix >>> of “harbour-“. >>> >>> The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that >>> applications do not clash with other installed packages on the >>> device. >>> >>> We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should >>> you have any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an >>> e-mail as always! >>> >>> P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store >>> requirements) in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen >>> crops up. >>> >>> Happy hacking, >>> The Jolla Crew >>> ___ >>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> >> >> ___ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> >> >> ___ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > > > > > -- > Artem Marchenko > http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com > http://twitter.com/AgileArtem > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list -- Luciano Montanaro Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. -- Douglas Adams ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
So harbour-myapp or harbour-myapp-mydomain-com? :) Early next week sounds ok for development except for that we can't make it for the launch date then :) Well, I trust you guys are considering whether to let the currently submitted apps violate the new conditions for a while so that there would be something Sailfish-native installable on the day one. Cheers, Artem. On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > i need to rebuild everything again? :D > > > On 22.11.2013 20:52, Reto Zingg wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 22.11.2013 16:47, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: >> >>> ah, just harbour-application instead of domain naming? ok then >>> sorry for misreading. >>> >>> but i compiled package with dots successfully. check my package in >>> Harbour :) >>> >> >> yes renaming a existing project by hand works incl. build and compiling, >> but you can't start a new SailfishOS project, which contains dots :-( >> >> And we want to stick to upstream QtCreator. >> >> br >> Reto >> >> On 22.11.2013 20:40, Reto Zingg wrote: >>> Hi, On 22.11.2013 16:39, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: > really? > > harbour-org.coderus.application > > how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device > packages? > > why? > QtCreator does not allow it: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt-creator/qt-creator/source/ 54636d9756966fab7365043d8fd255993675e935:src/libs/utils/ projectnamevalidatinglineedit.cpp#L46 br Reto On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: > >> Ahoy, >> >> In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to >> use a “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our >> attention that this isn’t factually possible at this time due to >> limitations in Qt Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to >> time limitations - so as to not inconvenience you developers - to >> change plans. >> >> The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix >> of “harbour-“. >> >> The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that >> applications do not clash with other installed packages on the device. >> >> We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should >> you have any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an >> e-mail as always! >> >> P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store >> requirements) in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen >> crops up. >> >> Happy hacking, >> The Jolla Crew >> ___ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>> >>> ___ >>> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >>> >> >> ___ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > -- Artem Marchenko http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com http://twitter.com/AgileArtem ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
i need to rebuild everything again? :D On 22.11.2013 20:52, Reto Zingg wrote: Hi, On 22.11.2013 16:47, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: ah, just harbour-application instead of domain naming? ok then sorry for misreading. but i compiled package with dots successfully. check my package in Harbour :) yes renaming a existing project by hand works incl. build and compiling, but you can't start a new SailfishOS project, which contains dots :-( And we want to stick to upstream QtCreator. br Reto On 22.11.2013 20:40, Reto Zingg wrote: Hi, On 22.11.2013 16:39, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: really? harbour-org.coderus.application how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device packages? why? QtCreator does not allow it: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt-creator/qt-creator/source/54636d9756966fab7365043d8fd255993675e935:src/libs/utils/projectnamevalidatinglineedit.cpp#L46 br Reto On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: Ahoy, In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to use a “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our attention that this isn’t factually possible at this time due to limitations in Qt Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time limitations - so as to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans. The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix of “harbour-“. The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that applications do not clash with other installed packages on the device. We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should you have any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an e-mail as always! P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store requirements) in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen crops up. Happy hacking, The Jolla Crew ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
Hi, On 22.11.2013 16:47, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: ah, just harbour-application instead of domain naming? ok then sorry for misreading. but i compiled package with dots successfully. check my package in Harbour :) yes renaming a existing project by hand works incl. build and compiling, but you can't start a new SailfishOS project, which contains dots :-( And we want to stick to upstream QtCreator. br Reto On 22.11.2013 20:40, Reto Zingg wrote: Hi, On 22.11.2013 16:39, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: really? harbour-org.coderus.application how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device packages? why? QtCreator does not allow it: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt-creator/qt-creator/source/54636d9756966fab7365043d8fd255993675e935:src/libs/utils/projectnamevalidatinglineedit.cpp#L46 br Reto On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: Ahoy, In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to use a “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our attention that this isn’t factually possible at this time due to limitations in Qt Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time limitations - so as to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans. The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix of “harbour-“. The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that applications do not clash with other installed packages on the device. We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should you have any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an e-mail as always! P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store requirements) in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen crops up. Happy hacking, The Jolla Crew ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
ah, just harbour-application instead of domain naming? ok then sorry for misreading. but i compiled package with dots successfully. check my package in Harbour :) On 22.11.2013 20:40, Reto Zingg wrote: Hi, On 22.11.2013 16:39, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: really? harbour-org.coderus.application how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device packages? why? QtCreator does not allow it: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt-creator/qt-creator/source/54636d9756966fab7365043d8fd255993675e935:src/libs/utils/projectnamevalidatinglineedit.cpp#L46 br Reto On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: Ahoy, In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to use a “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our attention that this isn’t factually possible at this time due to limitations in Qt Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time limitations - so as to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans. The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix of “harbour-“. The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that applications do not clash with other installed packages on the device. We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should you have any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an e-mail as always! P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store requirements) in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen crops up. Happy hacking, The Jolla Crew ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
Hi, On 22.11.2013 16:39, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: really? harbour-org.coderus.application how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device packages? why? QtCreator does not allow it: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt-creator/qt-creator/source/54636d9756966fab7365043d8fd255993675e935:src/libs/utils/projectnamevalidatinglineedit.cpp#L46 br Reto On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: Ahoy, In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to use a “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our attention that this isn’t factually possible at this time due to limitations in Qt Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time limitations - so as to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans. The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix of “harbour-“. The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that applications do not clash with other installed packages on the device. We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should you have any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an e-mail as always! P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store requirements) in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen crops up. Happy hacking, The Jolla Crew ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
Well, seems strange 2 me too. -- Marcin 2013/11/22 Andrey Kozhevnikov > really? > > harbour-org.coderus.application > > how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device packages? > > why? > > > On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: > >> Ahoy, >> >> In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to >> use a “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our >> attention that this isn’t factually possible at this time due to >> limitations in Qt Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time >> limitations - so as to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans. >> >> The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix of >> “harbour-“. >> >> The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that >> applications do not clash with other installed packages on the device. >> >> We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should you >> have any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an e-mail as >> always! >> >> P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store >> requirements) in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen crops >> up. >> >> Happy hacking, >> The Jolla Crew >> ___ >> SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list >> > > ___ > SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list > ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
Re: [SailfishDevel] Update on application naming for Harbour applications
really? harbour-org.coderus.application how domain.organization.application naming can clash with device packages? why? On 22.11.2013 20:32, Robin Burchell wrote: Ahoy, In Iekku’s mail yesterday, we referred to application names needing to use a “dotted” form (e.g. com.example.myapp). It was brought to our attention that this isn’t factually possible at this time due to limitations in Qt Creator/qmake, so we’re unfortunately forced due to time limitations - so as to not inconvenience you developers - to change plans. The new requirement is that application names must start with a prefix of “harbour-“. The reason (if it wasn’t clear) for this requirement is so that applications do not clash with other installed packages on the device. We’re very sorry for the confusion. Thanks for understanding. Should you have any questions on this or anything else, feel free to send an e-mail as always! P.S. We’ll be launching a FAQ explaining this (and other store requirements) in detail early next week, unless anything unforeseen crops up. Happy hacking, The Jolla Crew ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list ___ SailfishOS.org Devel mailing list
