RE: [digitalradio] Re: Opposing 60M proposal
>>>AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of David Little Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:35 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Opposing 60M proposal You further reinforce my position; the amateur radio service is not going to support long haul emcomm infrastructure. It doesn't matter what color you paint it. If the amout of wasted envy spent on lamenting P3 was devoted to promoting the Amateur Radio Service; then it may have a chance of surviving a few more decades. The others who take a serious look at your stance, and the credibility the ARS stands to lose have a good idea about who is destroying the villiage. Of course I have heard the same complaints about WINMOR; I live on planet Earth. >>>I have not seen a single complaint about WinMor on this reflector, or anywhere else on the internet. If you have, please post a couple of URLs. By the same token, if we had to resort to smoke signals, the same group would be protesting unattended operation of fire. To me, the discussion is a passing amusement. I don't anticipate the need to generally waste time or effort trying to use Amateur Radio Service spectrum for any useful long haul communications in an emergency; except voice when I may need a larger audience in an affected area. The SATERN nets in the first week of the Haiti response brought out the jammers. They had the same hatred for sustained net operations as the anti P3 crowd have for effective emcomm infrastructure. The end result is the same; ineffective interference... Long Haul Emcomm has migrated to NTIA spectrum. I am reaping a great crop of effective communications there. How well did your crop come in?? >>>Quite well, thanks: some new ones on 160m and 80m, 3500+ QSOs in 2 weeks as 8P9RY, some great digital-mode rag chews, a post here from Rick KN6KB saying that he'd consider backfitting the WinMor busy frequency detector into WinLink PMBOs, and lots of fun adding SDR Console support to DXLab. 73, Dave, AA6YQ .
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Opposing 60M proposal
You further reinforce my position; the amateur radio service is not going to support long haul emcomm infrastructure. It doesn't matter what color you paint it. If the amout of wasted envy spent on lamenting P3 was devoted to promoting the Amateur Radio Service; then it may have a chance of surviving a few more decades. The others who take a serious look at your stance, and the credibility the ARS stands to lose have a good idea about who is destroying the villiage. Of course I have heard the same complaints about WINMOR; I live on planet Earth. By the same token, if we had to resort to smoke signals, the same group would be protesting unattended operation of fire. To me, the discussion is a passing amusement. I don't anticipate the need to generally waste time or effort trying to use Amateur Radio Service spectrum for any useful long haul communications in an emergency; except voice when I may need a larger audience in an affected area. The SATERN nets in the first week of the Haiti response brought out the jammers. They had the same hatred for sustained net operations as the anti P3 crowd have for effective emcomm infrastructure. The end result is the same; ineffective interference... Long Haul Emcomm has migrated to NTIA spectrum. I am reaping a great crop of effective communications there. How well did your crop come in?? Cheers, David KD4NUE --- On Mon, 5/10/10, aa6yq wrote: From: aa6yq Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Opposing 60M proposal To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 11:24 PM >>>AA6YQ comments below --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, "David Little" wrote: This would be a good plan to insure that the Amateur Radio Service is treated as hobby-only communications. >>>"We had to destroy the village in order to save it" >snip< I run a 24/7 RMS WINMOR server. >snip< If things were different, I would put up a second station 24/7 within the Amateur Radio Service spectrum. It simply isn't worth listening to the whining. >>>I've heard no complaints about QRM from WinMor stations. Have you? Also, the potential for being effective in an emergency is too heavily weighted toward Federal spectrum for the same reasons that the Winlink/P3 whining never ceases when it concerns Amateur spectrum. >>>Complaints about QRM from WinLink PMBOs will cease when WinLink PMBOs stop >>>QRMing ongoing QSOs. >>>The only WinLink whining I hear is from those offering lame excuses for why >>>the same busy frequency detection mechanism deployed years ago in SCAMP and >>>now deployed in WinMor hasn't long been incorporated into WinLink PMBOs. You reap what you sow >>>Exactly. 73, Dave, AA6YQ
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Opposing 60M proposal
The FCC Electronic Comment Filing System is at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/ This loks like the one http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/proceeding/view?z=zcrgt&name=10-98 there's one comment already. 73 Trevor M5AKA
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Opposing 60M proposal
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:15 PM, aa6yq wrote: > > > > Where does one file comments on this proposal? > > I sure wish the WinLink guys would backfit the WinMor busy frequency detector > and deploy it to every PMBO. I'd much rather write code than letters to the > FCC... > > 73, > > Dave, AA6YQ > > > Good question Dave. Does anyone know of an easy link to a comment area for this proposal ? Andy K3UK
