[slim] Mute button?
Ever since I got my first SqueezeBox, I've wondered why Stop and Mute buttons were not provided on the remote, especially since there are three empty key spaces available on the remote. These just seem like very logical buttons to find on a remote control. Also, if they were simply overlooked, why were they not added when SqueezeBox2 was released? I'm aware that Stop functionality can be invoked by pressing and holding the Pause key, but this is not "discoverable" (i.e. not without reading the documentation, anyway). I just bought a SqueezeBox2 for my dad and this is one of the usability issues that arose. Anyway, at least Stop can still be invoked from the remote in some fashion, but why is there no Mute button (i.e. to set the volume to zero and then back to the previous volume setting if pressed again)? I appreciate that in some situations Pause can be used, but it is not always desirable to pause the stream (e.g. when synched with another player or when listening to a live radio stream). There are some instances where you really just want the volume muted. Is there a mute function that can be mapped to remote? -- rds ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
On 7/3/05, rds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm aware that Stop functionality can be invoked by pressing and > holding the Pause key, but this is not "discoverable" (i.e. not without > reading the documentation, anyway). I just bought a SqueezeBox2 for my > dad and this is one of the usability issues that arose. "Stop" just isn't neccessary on a streaming/non-mechanical device. On a tape player or CD 'stop' switches off the motor. Neither my iPod or Tivo have a stop button and, whilst it's confusing at first, you get used to it. What function would you want stop to have that pause/off doesn't? > why is there no Mute button (i.e. to set the volume to > zero and then back to the previous volume setting if pressed again)? I > appreciate that in some situations Pause can be used, but it is not > always desirable to pause the stream (e.g. when synched with another > player or when listening to a live radio stream). There are some > instances where you really just want the volume muted. > > Is there a mute function that can be mapped to remote? I'd guess yes as there *is* a mute on softsqueeze. I see there's another thread at the moment about the remote. It's not ideal but my wish would be for an interface that is much simpler with far fewer remote buttons (i've done this to an extent by using a learning system remote). The one really useful addition for a slim remote would be to give it learning capabilities to operate volume and mute on a system amplifier - if you're using anything other than powered speakers (and i suspect most people are) controlling the volume of the squeezebox itself is very much second best. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
Can I add the mute function as detailed above in Squeezecenter? I can't find the "default.map" file. Was this changed in Squeezecenter? -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
Patrick Dixon;43253 Wrote: > One reason you may not want to turn the player off is when you are > streaming 'listen again' radio streams. If you stop the stream and > restart, it restarts from the beginning again; which is not that > helpful if you are half way through a 2hr programme! > > I'd vote for a mute button too, although being a hardware change it's > not likely to happen anytime soon. Hello Patrick, I use my "pause button" as a Mute. In your example does hitting pause cause the stream to start over or continue from the point of the Pause? I have just always used the "Pause" button as a Mute button. I listen to mostly local files and some Radio IO. With local files the stream stops with Pause so the audio is muted completely because nothing is playing. Hit Pause again and the music continues from where it stopped. -- iPhone *iPhone* 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/mephone) Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono Blocks, Vandersteen Quatro, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Bedroom: SB3, NAD C370, Thiel 2.3 Home Office: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, VSM-1 Sigs Mobile: SB3, Audioengine A5 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
Since there is no "default.map" file in Squeezecenter (7), where would I make the adjustments to a file to get the mute function? -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
NFLnut;320798 Wrote: > Since there is no "default.map" file in Squeezecenter (7), where would I > make the adjustments to a file to get the mute function? It's "Default.map", and it's in the "IR" directory. If you install ContextMenu (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47886), including configuring a button mapping for it, you'll get a Mute button that way. For instance, on my system I hold the Right Arrow button to get ContextMenu, and can then scroll to Mute Button and press the Right Arrow again. More steps than holding a single button, but it gives me more flexibility for invoking other functions. And it's easier to remember, especially on my "universal" remotes that don't have all the standard Slim Devices buttons. If you only want Mute, you can use the ContextMenu web UI to disable all other buttons. Mute would then be 1) invoke ContextMenu (e.g., hold Right Arrow) 2) press Right Arrow briefly (to select Mute) If you use Mute more than any other ContextMenu option, you can use ContextMenu's "smart" ordering so that Mute will always be the first item suggested by ContextMenu -- or rely on the fact that ContextMenu defaults to the last option invoked if it's set for alphabetical prdering of options. -Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver FuzzyTime PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
Maybe that's the problem. I don't have an IR directory. My old installation folder for Slimserver (which I no longer use) has an IR folder, along with a Custom.map file, but my installation folder for SC 7 (C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter) does not have an IR folder, nor a Custom.map or a Default.map file. Should I just copy over the IR folder and the Custom.map file? Would that work? -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
NFLnut;321068 Wrote: > Maybe that's the problem. I don't have an IR directory. My old > installation folder for Slimserver (which I no longer use) has an IR > folder, along with a Custom.map file, but my installation folder for SC > 7 (C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter) does not have an IR folder, nor a > Custom.map or a Default.map file. > > Should I just copy over the IR folder and the Custom.map file? Would > that work? Might the IR directory for Windows now be in the Application Data folder? http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezeCenterDefaultLocations Have you searched all your local drives for Default.map? -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver FuzzyTime PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
Yeah. I've run several searches on the entire Squeezecenter folder(s) and there are no .map files there. I also do not have an IR folder in either the "Documents and Settings" folder or any of the Squeezecenter folders. The only place I found an "IR" folder or the .map file was in the old (abandoned) Slimserver folder. -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
NFLnut;321142 Wrote: > Yeah. I've run several searches on the entire Squeezecenter folder(s) > and there are no .map files there. I also do not have an IR folder in > either the "Documents and Settings" folder or any of the Squeezecenter > folders. The only place I found an "IR" folder or the .map file was in > the old (abandoned) Slimserver folder. Bizarre. I just remembered I could look at my Windows partition without rebooting -- my SC7 install has the map file at c:/Program Files/SqueezeCenter/server/IR/Default.map -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver FuzzyTime PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
I went ahead and copied the IR folder and the Custom.map file FROm the Slimserver install to the Squeezecenter folders (under the "server" folder). Now .. how can I tell if the .map file will even work, or IF it is already working? Also .. I would install your (peterw) ContextMenu plugin, but I'm afraid it is a little over my head on what it is, what it does, and how to implement the "Mute" function into my installation. I am NOT a programmer, so that might be the problem in my inability to understand the ContextMenu functionality. I would like to map the "0" (zero) button as a MUTE function. -- NFLnut NFLnut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13180 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
kdf;44429 Wrote: > On 14-Jul-05, at 8:43 PM, Dave D wrote: > [color=blue] > your other option is to use another .map file (say Custom.map) like > so: > > [common] > 0 = dead #overwrite default function > 0.hold = muting > 0.single = numberScroll_0 > I tried this and found the mute function does not work quite as I expected - if I press and hold 0, the SB mutes and the volume shows something like -800329.41 dB (I have the alternative volume display from MusicInfoSCR plugin enabled). However, when I hold 0 again, it doesn't un-mute, it shows a large negative number again. I have to increase the volume from 0 dB to get the volume back. Anyone else see this? It also doesn't work in Now Playing as I have the TrackStat plugin installed, which uses 0.hold to un-rate a track. -- IMGrant IMGrant's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
I'm a little surprised nobody has mentioned this, but there -is- a mute function. Press the volume up and down buttons simultaneously. Or at least, I know this works on the Controller. I don't think I've ever tried it on a remote. Hmm. Have to give it a shot, but I use the Controller 90% of the time, so I just haven't had a need to try it with the remote. -- Dogberry2 Dogberry2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
Dogberry2;420494 Wrote: > I'm a little surprised nobody has mentioned this, but there -is- a mute > function. Press the volume up and down buttons simultaneously. Or at > least, I know this works on the Controller. I think it has been mentioned, but anyway, I think that is only on the SBC, it doesn't work on the SB2 IR remote that I have. -- IMGrant IMGrant's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
IMGrant;420427 Wrote: > I tried this and found the mute function does not work quite as I > expected - if I press and hold 0, the SB mutes > ... > However, when I hold 0 again, it doesn't un-mute, > ... > I have to increase the volume from 0 dB to get the volume back. Anyone > else see this? > Yes, I see this, too. Please open a ticket on bugs.slimdevices.com if there isn't one already. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
IMGrant;420518 Wrote: > Does it count as a bug, since it is a hack/plugin? I believe the "mixer muting" CLI command is documented, so this is probably a legitimate bug. If it weren't, you could still open an Enhancement Request ticket. :-) -Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
I've opened a bug: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11973 Also, 'bug 11217' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11217) sounds similar, except it is for 7.3.2 and only refers to the CLI. -- IMGrant IMGrant's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
IMGrant;420687 Wrote: > I've opened a bug: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11973 > > Also, 'bug 11217' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11217) > sounds similar, except it is for 7.3.2 and only refers to the CLI. Great. I'm pretty sure these have the same root cause. I've been tinkering with another volume-related plugin lately (as well as experimenting with JP1 remote control reprogramming that could make my universal IR send the real mute IR code), and hope I'll have some time to look at this in the next week or two. Hopefully I can find a fix that Logitech will agree to apply to the official codebase. -Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
IMGrant;420515 Wrote: > I think it has been mentioned, but anyway, I think that is only on the > SBC, it doesn't work on the SB2 IR remote that I have. +1 I can't find any mute function on my SB2s. So I assume that goes for SB2/SB3/SBClassic - i.e.all the same hardware. It would be very useful. -- mooblie Martin at *_'HeadSpin_HD' (http://www.headspin.plus.com)_* now on -*Blu-ray-* mooblie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mute button?
Muting is great when you have several SB's synced up, too - you might want to walk into the Living Room and mute it while listening to the kitchen, or vice-versa. Another thing is when you have a house full of these, you might want to mute all (though, yes, Pause WOULD do the same, but hey, work with me. What if you have a few players, playing different things, and want to mute them all - mute the kids' room, say?) when the phone rings or something, or what about an arbitrary volume when a key is pressed - go from "rockin' volume" to "mood volume", say. Is there a way to do: sleep = muting sleep.hold = or sleep.hold = -Dan -- plympton plympton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14921 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] mute button on remote?
Hi, The standard SB3 remote doesn't have a mute button. Is there an IR code I can use on another remote which would toggle mute on/off? Does SB3 understand mute at all? If not, is there a plug-in which does? Thanks, grimholtz -- grimholtz 'Get PasswordMaker' (https://passwordmaker.org/) 'Get FoxyProxy' (http://foxyproxy.mozdev.org/) 'Read one of my books' (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1861005202/102-7541338-1644948) grimholtz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5235 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23895 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
