Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Sun, 07 Feb 2016, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > whichever bugs I might in your work, not the fact that your are > > doing good work here. > I beg your pardon for that, I was tired from trolling, it can happen. we have had plenty of trolling and takes time to settle the nerves to a normal state. Now I am very happy to read this diatribe came to mutual understanding. Ed is a valuable member of this community, he is well focused to develop an important software application which will benefit any free desktop operating system out there. at last my suggestion for a name is 'netplug' but I also like netbarx nevermind for the typos and distortions. netbark is a nice one actually :^D ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
Can we Move On? On 2016-02-07 20:10, aitor_czr wrote: Dear Edward, On 07/02/2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 13:34:11 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <20160206133411.74d85...@nb6.lan>: On Sat, 06 Feb 2016 01:46:21 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message <56b5425d.6020...@gnuinos.org>: On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux wrote: > Every name I came up with was already in multiple use. I also > thought of netbarx which is completely unique. Kinda like it > actually. > > golinux IMO, netbarx is the best choice :) Aitor. ..it's immune to "netbarf"? ;o) ..it is. ;o) ..I vote for netbarx. :o) You can't fight against the avalanche of netbarx. I'm a hooligan of netbarx. Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Stop slacking you lazy bum! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
Dear Edward, On 07/02/2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 13:34:11 +0100, Arnt wrote in message ><20160206133411.74d85...@nb6.lan>: > >>On Sat, 06 Feb 2016 01:46:21 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message >><56b5425d.6020...@gnuinos.org>: >> >> >On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux wrote: >> > >Every name I came up with was already in multiple use. I also >> > >thought of netbarx which is completely unique. Kinda like it >> > >actually. >> > > >> > >golinux >> > >> >IMO, netbarx is the best choice:) >> > >> > Aitor. >> >>..it's immune to "netbarf"? ;o) > >..it is. ;o) > >..I vote for netbarx. :o) You can't fight against the avalanche of netbarx. I'm a hooligan of netbarx. Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
> I never meant to insinuate or otherwise say anything about your > programming skill, I'm talking about how easily your netbarx name > can become "netbarf" and you proved my point by reading it as > "netbark" in your first response to me. This lack of strength is something that I have to face. > the only thing I'd critisize on your part, is your mail list > reader skills seeing malice where no malice was intended It would be nice if I don't see malice, but how do you succeed to interpret no malice? Maybe, I am expecting users of dng to express themselves in a way that appears to them unnatural. > naïvite on believing "systemd is only a tech issue" Of course systemd is a poltical issue. I agree on that. Systemd is a software lock-in, which is a bad thing for choice. > whichever bugs I might in your work, not the fact that your are doing good > work >here. I beg your pardon for that, I was tired from trolling, it can happen. Edward On 07/02/2016, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 13:34:11 +0100, Arnt wrote in message > <20160206133411.74d85...@nb6.lan>: > >> On Sat, 06 Feb 2016 01:46:21 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message >> <56b5425d.6020...@gnuinos.org>: >> >> > On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux wrote: >> > > Every name I came up with was already in multiple use. I also >> > > thought of netbarx which is completely unique. Kinda like it >> > > actually. >> > > >> > > golinux >> > >> > IMO, netbarx is the best choice :) >> > >> > Aitor. >> >> ..it's immune to "netbarf"? ;o) > > ..it is. ;o) > > ..I vote for netbarx. :o) > > > -- > ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen > ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... > Scenarios always come in sets of three: > best case, worst case, and just in case. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 13:34:11 +0100, Arnt wrote in message <20160206133411.74d85...@nb6.lan>: > On Sat, 06 Feb 2016 01:46:21 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message > <56b5425d.6020...@gnuinos.org>: > > > On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux wrote: > > > Every name I came up with was already in multiple use. I also > > > thought of netbarx which is completely unique. Kinda like it > > > actually. > > > > > > golinux > > > > IMO, netbarx is the best choice :) > > > > Aitor. > > ..it's immune to "netbarf"? ;o) ..it is. ;o) ..I vote for netbarx. :o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
Hi, Although, some comments were mean, I apologize for my behaviour. This apology has to be taken in the light, that I wish Devuan to continue developing into a distribution, that can be used by all those who respect freedom of choice. As I am one of those who became uneasy with the introduction of systemd and the way it is taking over what we know of Linux, I makes sense that I forget, but I am no living human perfection. Hopefully, many accept this apology. Edward On 07/02/2016, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 02:26:16AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 01:27:26 +0100, aitor_czr wrote: >> > On 02/06/2016 07:27 PM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: >> > > On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 19:03 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: >> > >> >Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only >> > >> >change the name of the project. >> > >> > >> > >> >Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!! >> > >> > >> > > Please Edward, Peter is no scumbag. Read what he suggests instead. >> > > And calm down! >> > >> > Peter Olson is not offending you. I don't understand your anger. >> >> ..he may have taken offence from my comment on the name, >> which he may have interpreted as "netbark", I never meant >> to offend him or anyone else here. > > The offence is right, as instead of referring to useless creatures we should > pay homage to the Master Species instead and name netman "netmeow". > > > But really, it's getting ridiculous. > > -- > A tit a day keeps the vet away. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 02:26:16AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 01:27:26 +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > > On 02/06/2016 07:27 PM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > > On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 19:03 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > >> >Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only > > >> >change the name of the project. > > >> > > > >> >Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!! > > >> > > > > Please Edward, Peter is no scumbag. Read what he suggests instead. > > > And calm down! > > > > Peter Olson is not offending you. I don't understand your anger. > > ..he may have taken offence from my comment on the name, > which he may have interpreted as "netbark", I never meant > to offend him or anyone else here. The offence is right, as instead of referring to useless creatures we should pay homage to the Master Species instead and name netman "netmeow". But really, it's getting ridiculous. -- A tit a day keeps the vet away. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 01:27:26 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message <56b68f6e.4090...@gnuinos.org>: > Hi Edward, > > On 02/06/2016 07:27 PM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 19:03 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > >> >Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only > >> >change the name of the project. > >> > > >> >Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!! > >> > > >> >On 06/02/2016, Peter Olson wrote: > > > >On February 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM Edward > > > >Bartolo wrote: > > Please Edward, Peter is no scumbag. Read what he suggests instead. > > And calm down! > > Peter Olson is not offending you. I don't understand your anger. > >Aitor. ..he may have taken offence from my comment on the name, which he may have interpreted as "netbark", I never meant to offend him or anyone else here. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Sat, 06 Feb 2016 19:18:29 +0100, Svante wrote in message <1454782709.2888.49.ca...@gmail.com>: > On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 19:03 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only > > change the name of the project. > > > > Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!! > > > > On 06/02/2016, Peter Olson wrote: > > > > On February 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM Edward Bartolo > > > > wrote: > > Please Edward, Peter is no scumbag. Read what he suggests instead. And > calm down! ..also, I just wanted to point out how easily your netbarx name is abused, it only takes "getting one letter wrong", such cheap attacks will happen "just because", because they are so easy to do, and because the other side appears to need such political etc victories to compensate for the absence of their techological etc performance merit. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
Hi Edward, On 02/06/2016 07:27 PM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 19:03 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: >Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only >change the name of the project. > >Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!! > >On 06/02/2016, Peter Olson wrote: > > >On February 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM Edward Bartolo > > >wrote: Please Edward, Peter is no scumbag. Read what he suggests instead. And calm down! Peter Olson is not offending you. I don't understand your anger. Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 06:30:38PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > It is amusing to be exposed to so much appreciation of genuine users > and trolls alike. Yes, I bark quite a lot: Bow wow, ww, > grr! Wuff, wu. > > However, my ethical principles do not permit me to name the project > after myself. What I like about the name netbarx is that it is unique. I think you'd have a hard time finding another project called barx. I'm really tired, when soneone talks about a project called, say, squid, and wondering what it is, trying to find it in google and finding nothing but articles on cephalopoda. A good name should be pronouncble and unique. netman is pronouncable bbut not unique. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 07:03:12PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only > change the name of the project. > > Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!! > If you had read his email, instead of just throwing insults to him, you would have realised that Peter was not throwing any pun at you. Since the choice of this bloody name is just yours, I don't get why you are making all this fuss about asking people what they think, and letting they believe that you are really interested in their opinion. Go name whatever you want as you like, but please stop pretending that you care about what others have to say, because it is obvious that you don't give a shit. HND KatolaZ -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 06:21:23PM +, Go Linux wrote: [cut] > > > > > Predictably, wrong thinking and self-identification leads to anger. Yawn. > Human history in a nutshell. All the technology of our 'evolved' species > doesn't change that fact that we are still looking through the wrong end of > the periscope . . . > +1 HND KatolaZ -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Sat, 2/6/16, Edward Bartolo wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name. To: "dng" Date: Saturday, February 6, 2016, 12:06 PM Hi All, PUNNING will not be accepted. Those who want to use it, they can use it to name their offspring and family members!! I have had enough. Filter this rubbish! Edward On 06/02/2016, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only > change the name of the project. > > Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!! > > On 06/02/2016, Peter Olson wrote: >>> On February 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM Edward Bartolo wrote: >>> >> [snip] >>> However, my ethical principles do not permit me to name the project >>> after myself. I am a servant here, therefore I cannot consider myself >> >> I would nominate netservant as the name, but alas, it has already been >> taken. >> >> It seems to me that focusing on 'net' is a red herring. The name doesn't >> really >> have to map to the function. The name should be memorable once it is >> discovered, which includes punning. That encourages word-of-mouth >> propagation. >> >> I suggest people look at >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_butlers >> for some ideas. >> >> Peter Olson >> > Predictably, wrong thinking and self-identification leads to anger. Yawn. Human history in a nutshell. All the technology of our 'evolved' species doesn't change that fact that we are still looking through the wrong end of the periscope . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 19:03 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only > change the name of the project. > > Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!! > > On 06/02/2016, Peter Olson wrote: > > > On February 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM Edward Bartolo > > > wrote: Please Edward, Peter is no scumbag. Read what he suggests instead. And calm down! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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Hi All, PUNNING will not be accepted. Those who want to use it, they can use it to name their offspring and family members!! I have had enough. Filter this rubbish! Edward On 06/02/2016, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only > change the name of the project. > > Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!! > > On 06/02/2016, Peter Olson wrote: >>> On February 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM Edward Bartolo wrote: >>> >> [snip] >>> However, my ethical principles do not permit me to name the project >>> after myself. I am a servant here, therefore I cannot consider myself >> >> I would nominate netservant as the name, but alas, it has already been >> taken. >> >> It seems to me that focusing on 'net' is a red herring. The name doesn't >> really >> have to map to the function. The name should be memorable once it is >> discovered, which includes punning. That encourages word-of-mouth >> propagation. >> >> I suggest people look at >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_butlers >> for some ideas. >> >> Peter Olson >> > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only change the name of the project. Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!! On 06/02/2016, Peter Olson wrote: >> On February 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM Edward Bartolo wrote: >> > [snip] >> However, my ethical principles do not permit me to name the project >> after myself. I am a servant here, therefore I cannot consider myself > > I would nominate netservant as the name, but alas, it has already been > taken. > > It seems to me that focusing on 'net' is a red herring. The name doesn't > really > have to map to the function. The name should be memorable once it is > discovered, which includes punning. That encourages word-of-mouth > propagation. > > I suggest people look at > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_butlers > for some ideas. > > Peter Olson > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
> On February 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM Edward Bartolo wrote: > [snip] > However, my ethical principles do not permit me to name the project > after myself. I am a servant here, therefore I cannot consider myself I would nominate netservant as the name, but alas, it has already been taken. It seems to me that focusing on 'net' is a red herring. The name doesn't really have to map to the function. The name should be memorable once it is discovered, which includes punning. That encourages word-of-mouth propagation. I suggest people look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_butlers for some ideas. Peter Olson ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Sat, 2/6/16, Edward Bartolo wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name. To: "dng" Date: Saturday, February 6, 2016, 11:30 AM Hi, It is amusing to be exposed to so much appreciation of genuine users and trolls alike. Yes, I bark quite a lot: Bow wow, ww, grr! Wuff, wu. However, my ethical principles do not permit me to name the project after myself. I am a servant here, therefore I cannot consider myself like a lord. Sorry for acting like this, but working for the cause of open source software is essentially helping those who cannot afford expensive software and expensive hardware. Yes, I know what I am saying dissonates a lot with what the modern capitalist world professes, but I believe firmly in a world of cooperation instead of savage competion. The lesser gifted are no subhuman beings. They deserve a world that helps them instead of one that punishes them for not being gifted. What I did, is to help, and I am satisfied of being trolled for it and sometimes abused. Thanks for your understanding. Edward Good grief. You are NOT barx. So how can using that combination of letters be naming something after 'yourself'. In fact you are not even Edward Bartolo. You are a collection of physical and mental phenomena. The act of naming is merely a convenient convention but in reality has no substance. Such strong identification with the 'self' is a deep, dark pit . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
Hi, It is amusing to be exposed to so much appreciation of genuine users and trolls alike. Yes, I bark quite a lot: Bow wow, ww, grr! Wuff, wu. However, my ethical principles do not permit me to name the project after myself. I am a servant here, therefore I cannot consider myself like a lord. Sorry for acting like this, but working for the cause of open source software is essentially helping those who cannot afford expensive software and expensive hardware. Yes, I know what I am saying dissonates a lot with what the modern capitalist world professes, but I believe firmly in a world of cooperation instead of savage competion. The lesser gifted are no subhuman beings. They deserve a world that helps them instead of one that punishes them for not being gifted. What I did, is to help, and I am satisfied of being trolled for it and sometimes abused. Thanks for your understanding. Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Sat, 06 Feb 2016 01:46:21 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message <56b5425d.6020...@gnuinos.org>: > On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux wrote: > > Every name I came up with was already in multiple use. I also > > thought of netbarx which is completely unique. Kinda like it > > actually. > > > > golinux > > IMO, netbarx is the best choice :) > > Aitor. ..it's immune to "netbarf"? ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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+1 SWS On Feb 5, 2016 7:46 PM, "aitor_czr" wrote: > On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux > wrote: > > Every name I came up with was already in multiple use. I also thought of > netbarx which is completely unique. Kinda like it actually. > > golinux > > > IMO, netbarx is the best choice :) > > Aitor. > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux wrote: Every name I came up with was already in multiple use. I also thought of netbarx which is completely unique. Kinda like it actually. golinux IMO, netbarx is the best choice :) Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Fri, Feb 05, 2016 at 09:47:45PM +0100, shraptor wrote: > On 2016-02-05 21:12, Edward Bartolo wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I will NOT name the project after myself; I even abstained from > >voting. My project was written to HELP; I am not after > >self-appraisal... > > That's too bad cause I honestly think netbarx is a real good name. > I urge you to reconsider, at least let it be included in vote. I never associated barx with the author's name. I thought of my dear late dog, who was always exploring everything he encountered. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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On Fri, 2/5/16, shraptor wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name. To: "Edward Bartolo" Cc: "dng" Date: Friday, February 5, 2016, 2:47 PM On 2016-02-05 21:12, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > I will NOT name the project after myself; I even abstained from > voting. My project was written to HELP; I am not after > self-appraisal... That's too bad cause I honestly think netbarx is a real good name. I urge you to reconsider, at least let it be included in vote. It is NOT named after you, Edward Bartolo, but does incorporate part of a nick you use elsewhere. I'm sure that there are plenty of people on this list that do not know about edbarx. netbarx is a bit of a play on words - barks > barx which makes it fun and unique IMO. If enough people like it and it wins the naming contest, would you nullify the vote? Just curious . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On 2016-02-05 21:12, Edward Bartolo wrote: Hi, I will NOT name the project after myself; I even abstained from voting. My project was written to HELP; I am not after self-appraisal... That's too bad cause I honestly think netbarx is a real good name. I urge you to reconsider, at least let it be included in vote. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
> > > > El 04/02/16 a las 21:17, edward Bartolo escribió: > >> El 04/02/16 a las 21:17, edward Bartolo escribió:Hi > All, > >> > > >> >I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several > >> >pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial > >> >projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a > >> >unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper > >> >sites. > >> > > >> >I am suggesting this name: > >> >nm-devuan for network manager Devuan. > >> > > >> >I am open to other suggestions. > >> > > >> >Edward > > I did a google search of *NetBat* and it doesn't exist. > > *Bat* means *One* in basque language. > > Do you like it? > > Gero arte! > > Aitor. > --- NetBat would be interesting. NetBarx is good also. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
Hi, I will NOT name the project after myself; I even abstained from voting. My project was written to HELP; I am not after self-appraisal... In fact, after just two days back in August I had already a functioning backend and GUI, but I continued to listen to what others wanted. I could have stayed with what just worked for me but I didn't. This interpretation by some that I am after self gratification is wrong. Working for Devuan and free software does not earn me money: it only earns me more fatigue and less free time. Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On 2016-02-05 18:15, Go Linux wrote: Every name I came up with was already in multiple use. I also thought of netbarx which is completely unique. Kinda like it actually. golinux I vote for netbarx ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
Hi, This is a short list of possible future names for netman with a google suggestion count below 3. a) wifiwaverider -> 1 google suggestions b) netgalloper (instead of netrunner) -> 2 google suggestions c) ostiumreticulum (network door in Latin) --> 2 google suggestions d) easynetaid -> 1 google suggestion Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Fri, 2/5/16, aitor_czr wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name. To: "Edward Bartolo" , "Teodoro Santoni" , dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Friday, February 5, 2016, 10:41 AM El 05/02/16 a las 17:14, Teodoro Santoni escribió: > Although I'd prefer butplug, I suggest netrunner, netvan, igign, ethcable. > Netbarx is a cool name, though. I also thought in Netrunner, but there is a distribution with this name: Netrunner OS. Aitor. Every name I came up with was already in multiple use. I also thought of netbarx which is completely unique. Kinda like it actually. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
El 05/02/16 a las 17:14, Teodoro Santoni escribió: Although I'd prefer butplug, I suggest netrunner, netvan, igign, ethcable. Netbarx is a cool name, though. I also thought in Netrunner, but there is a distribution with this name: Netrunner OS. Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
Good afternoon, 2016-02-03 8:05 GMT+01:00, Edward Bartolo : > Hi All, > > I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several > pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial > projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a > unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper > sites. > > I am suggesting this name: > nm-devuan for network manager Devuan. > > I am open to other suggestions. > > Edward Although I'd prefer butplug, I suggest netrunner, netvan, igign, ethcable. Netbarx is a cool name, though. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
El 03/02/16 a las 08:30, Edward Bartolo escribió: Hi All, I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper sites. I am suggesting this name: nm-devuan for network manager Devuan. I am open to other suggestions. Edward How about: netc-manager because it's written in C. Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
El 04/02/16 a las 21:17, edward Bartolo escribió: El 04/02/16 a las 21:17, edward Bartolo escribió:Hi All, > >I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several >pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial >projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a >unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper >sites. > >I am suggesting this name: >nm-devuan for network manager Devuan. > >I am open to other suggestions. > >Edward I did a google search of *NetBat* and it doesn't exist. *Bat* means *One* in basque language. Do you like it? Gero arte! Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: Hi All, I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper sites. I am suggesting this name: nm-devuan for network manager Devuan. I am open to other suggestions. Edward More choices: net1manager - Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 10:39:17PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > If the new name is not unique, it doesn't help much to rename netman > as potential users will still find difficulty locating it. You really want a name that lets an user googling for it show only related pages -- as this is what users do when they have trouble. Sadly, "netman" is already taken by a quite large number of software projects and services. > One particular reply suggested me to upload the source tarball to sf.net > which is a good idea and which I am considering. Sounds redundant with github to me. > I am trying to help potential users of netman, because writing an open > source software project just to upload it somewhere where it is > virtually inaccessible, does not make sense especially considering the > many hours I sacrificed to write and debug it. > > Please, stop associating my motivation to make netman known to stroke > my ego: this is NOT the case. At my age, I do not need to stroke my > ego, but I do want others to benefit from my own work even though I > will not get paid for it. This is the spirit of writing projects for > causes like Devuan. Having more users means more testers, more contributors. Thus, you do benefit from having your software widely available. I'd strongly recommend not making netman Devuan-specific. If you get it into Debian, it will migrate to most derivatives. And even a small percentage of that is some serious user base. At first, I'd propose putting the package into experimental, until you consider it ready for wider use. As there are DDs on this mailing list, having netman accepted into Debian is something we can help with. -- A tit a day keeps the vet away. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
I think having a web page associated with the sf.net account will help too, some simple html tricks might help it to come up a little bit in the google rankings, and maybe try the same for other search engines like duckduckgo if it won't hurt your google ranking to do so. It could be helpful regardless of a name change, I still sometimes look at sf.net when I'm wanting to find new software. Cheers, chillfan On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 9:39 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi, > > If the new name is not unique, it doesn't help much to rename netman > as potential users will still find difficulty locating it. One > particular reply suggested me to upload the source tarball to sf.net > which is a good idea and which I am considering. > > I am trying to help potential users of netman, because writing an open > source software project just to upload it somewhere where it is > virtually inaccessible, does not make sense especially considering the > many hours I sacrificed to write and debug it. > > Please, stop associating my motivation to make netman known to stroke > my ego: this is NOT the case. At my age, I do not need to stroke my > ego, but I do want others to benefit from my own work even though I > will not get paid for it. This is the spirit of writing projects for > causes like Devuan. > > I would also like to add, that at this age, writing a project like > netman, will not affect my carrier or my potential earnings. I do not > possess enough resources to make use of my newly gained experience > collaborating with Devuan notwithstanding it adds another item to my > CV. > > Edward > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Take back your privacy. Switch to www.StartMail.com ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
If you are set on changing the name, maybe devuan network manager (DNM). Cheers, chillfan On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 7:05 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several > pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial > projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a > unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper > sites. > > I am suggesting this name: > nm-devuan for network manager Devuan. > > I am open to other suggestions. > > Edward > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Take back your privacy. Switch to www.StartMail.com ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
Hi, If the new name is not unique, it doesn't help much to rename netman as potential users will still find difficulty locating it. One particular reply suggested me to upload the source tarball to sf.net which is a good idea and which I am considering. I am trying to help potential users of netman, because writing an open source software project just to upload it somewhere where it is virtually inaccessible, does not make sense especially considering the many hours I sacrificed to write and debug it. Please, stop associating my motivation to make netman known to stroke my ego: this is NOT the case. At my age, I do not need to stroke my ego, but I do want others to benefit from my own work even though I will not get paid for it. This is the spirit of writing projects for causes like Devuan. I would also like to add, that at this age, writing a project like netman, will not affect my carrier or my potential earnings. I do not possess enough resources to make use of my newly gained experience collaborating with Devuan notwithstanding it adds another item to my CV. Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 04:36:36PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 11:24:16AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > > I suggest netwiz. Or ifwiz, which does not exist on google. I would > > > avoid ipwiz, since there apparently exists already a tool named ipwiz > > > for macosx. > > > > Ah. The interactive wizards that run your system for you. > > A trendy name, suitable if you like the Windows approach. > > So let netwiz be the GUI front end, and let netmgr be the back end. > > Let us install one without the other, and write new front ends far > > into the future. > > Eheheheh! I didn't have in mind Windows at all when I suggested ifwiz, > to be honest :) I haven't seen a Windows installation in the last 15 > years or so, so if there are wizards over there, their power has not > had any effect on me lately. Or perhaps I should put back on my > tinfoil-hat... > > The only "wizard" I remember was an icon in the front page of the > setup tool of KDE 1.something :D Not absolutely sure, but Windows was the first place I saw where people routinely ended up using setup wizards (that was what they were called, wizards) to do incomprehensible things to their systems when installing software or hardare or such. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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Hi, > On 03/02/2016, KatolaZ wrote: > I still don't understand why you persist asking for feedback if then > you don't tolerate feedback that is not in line with what you > expect. Respondents are free to write clearly why they choose a name implying a joke or a pun. I cannot read minds, therefore, I have to be contented with the actual literal meaning of replies. > I understand that everyone is proud of their own little > babies, but I pesonally find more interesting names which suggest a > pun, either implicitly of explictly. Proud of what? I am not that kind of person. Netman had only proven that I could do it with some help. It is immature and childish to be proud like that: the world does not need to revolve around me; I am only an organism with a lifespan of around seventy years living on a planet that is 5500 Million Years old. My existence is therefore effectively nothing. > Conman would be a nice joke, IMHO, exactly because of it explicitly > suggesting "fraudster" while being something else, but obviously you > are free to name your little baby as you want. Humour is vastly culture dependent. > Just don't get why you > want to share your personal murmurations about your own choice, given > that you don't want anybody to interfere with such choice in practice, This is false. While I was writing the project I was open to many suggestions. I even implemented ideas with which I was in disagreement. The "obstinacy" on my part was always the result of failing to follow suggestions due to unexpected output from commands which meant I could NOT follow those suggestions. So, in those situaitions I had to find a way out by myself. The reason for this "obstinacy" is I couldn't allow myself to waste time if another solution was more time efficient for me. > you get terribly upset if somebody makes a joke out of it... I didn't get upset. For example, today, I didn't quit using the computer because I got upset, but because I had other errands. My life involves more than using a computer: I have to eat every day and that requires me to earn a living which takes time. Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 12:40:25PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:54:53 +0100 > aitor_czr wrote: > > > On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Mitt Green wrote: > > > I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it, > > > as long as people from other communities > > > will probably use it too. > > > > +1 > > That was my first thought too, and I almost wrote it. > > But then I started to think: If it were called nm-devuan, that would > certainly let people know that Devuan is more than just a few > malcontents playing whack-a-mole with Debian and Freedesktop. nm-devuan because it's a Devuan-specific NetworkManager plugin, got it. -- A tit a day keeps the vet away. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:48:43 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > It nice to learn from trolls that my little "pitbull", netman, is a > thorn deeply in their side. But, let us discuss the new name, so that > users would find it more readily while searching the internet. Yes, > trolls do not like this move which shows it is a good move. > > What about: "nm-pitbull" in honour of the trolls? :D > > > Thanks to all Trolls. > Your feedback is much appreciated. :D What trolls? I haven't seen a troll in this thread. SteveT Steve Litt February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:54:53 +0100 aitor_czr wrote: > On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Mitt Green wrote: > > I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it, > > as long as people from other communities > > will probably use it too. > > +1 > > Aitor. That was my first thought too, and I almost wrote it. But then I started to think: If it were called nm-devuan, that would certainly let people know that Devuan is more than just a few malcontents playing whack-a-mole with Debian and Freedesktop. SteveT Steve Litt February 2016 featured book: The Key to Everyday Excellence http://www.troubleshooters.com/key ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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On 02/03/2016 04:41 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: Sorry, i'm sending messages from the future once again. In that case, could you let us know what name was finally chosen ? ;-3) Cheers, Ron. Very sharp :) Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 11:24:16AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: [cut] > > > > I suggest netwiz. Or ifwiz, which does not exist on google. I would > > avoid ipwiz, since there apparently exists already a tool named ipwiz > > for macosx. > > Ah. The interactive wizards that run your system for you. > A trendy name, suitable if you like the Windows approach. > So let netwiz be the GUI front end, and let netmgr be the back end. > Let us install one without the other, and write new front ends far > into the future. Eheheheh! I didn't have in mind Windows at all when I suggested ifwiz, to be honest :) I haven't seen a Windows installation in the last 15 years or so, so if there are wizards over there, their power has not had any effect on me lately. Or perhaps I should put back on my tinfoil-hat... The only "wizard" I remember was an icon in the front page of the setup tool of KDE 1.something :D HND KatolaZ -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 02:51:14PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 03:41:53PM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > > On 02/03/2016 03:28 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > >I like netmgr and netmanx. > > > > > >"mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is. > > > > > >And netmanx is fun. But I think netmgr is more descriptive. > > > > > >-- hendrik > > > > My vote is for netmgr :) > > > > Aitor. > > I suggest netwiz. Or ifwiz, which does not exist on google. I would > avoid ipwiz, since there apparently exists already a tool named ipwiz > for macosx. Ah. The interactive wizards that run your system for you. A trendy name, suitable if you like the Windows approach. So let netwiz be the GUI front end, and let netmgr be the back end. Let us install one without the other, and write new front ends far into the future. -- hendrik > > My2Cents > > KatolaZ > > -- > [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] > [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] > [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] > [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
My vote is also netmgr Best Regards | ISMAEL | - Original Message - From: aitor_czr To: Edward Bartolo ; Hendrik Boom ; dng Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name. On 02/03/2016 03:28 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I like netmgr and netmanx. "mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is. And netmanx is fun. But I think netmgr is more descriptive. -- hendrik My vote is for netmgr :) Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 03:41:53PM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > On 02/03/2016 03:28 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >I like netmgr and netmanx. > > > >"mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is. > > > >And netmanx is fun. But I think netmgr is more descriptive. > > > >-- hendrik > > My vote is for netmgr :) > > Aitor. I suggest netwiz. Or ifwiz, which does not exist on google. I would avoid ipwiz, since there apparently exists already a tool named ipwiz for macosx. My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On 02/03/2016 03:28 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I like netmgr and netmanx. "mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is. And netmanx is fun. But I think netmgr is more descriptive. -- hendrik My vote is for netmgr :) Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:50:46 +0100 aitor_czr wrote: > Sorry, i'm sending messages from the future once again. In that case, could you let us know what name was finally chosen ? ;-3) Cheers, Ron. -- Kilroe hic erat! -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 02:48:07PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > > What about netmgr? The current name netman gives associations on having to do > with manual stuff. I like netmgr and netmanx. "mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is. And netmanx is fun. But I think netmgr is more descriptive. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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netman was great. On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:50 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > On 03/09/2021 11:07 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > > On 03/02/16 13:00, Florian Zieboll > wrote: > > I was going to suggest GUIP (from gui and ip) > > > Mmmh..., there is a backend which works without requiring any gui. > >Aitor. > > > Sorry, i'm sending messages from the future once again. > >Aitor. > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On 03/09/2021 11:07 PM, aitor_czr wrote: On 03/02/16 13:00, Florian Zieboll wrote: I was going to suggest GUIP (from gui and ip) Mmmh..., there is a backend which works without requiring any gui. Aitor. Sorry, i'm sending messages from the future once again. Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Wed, 2016-02-03 at 08:05 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several > pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial > projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a > unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper > sites. > > I am suggesting this name: > nm-devuan for network manager Devuan. > > I am open to other suggestions. What about netmgr? The current name netman gives associations on having to do with manual stuff. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On 03/02/16 13:00, Florian Zieboll wrote: I was going to suggest GUIP (from gui and ip) Mmmh..., there is a backend which works without requiring any gui. Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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On 03/02/16 13:00, fsmithred wrote: What about: "nm-pitbull" in honour of the trolls? :D > The cat lovers among us might prefer Netmanx. Or... Edbarx Netmanx. fsr I like 'Netmanx'. Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 11:48:43AM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > It nice to learn from trolls that my little "pitbull", netman, is a > thorn deeply in their side. But, let us discuss the new name, so that > users would find it more readily while searching the internet. Yes, > trolls do not like this move which shows it is a good move. > > What about: "nm-pitbull" in honour of the trolls? :D > > > Thanks to all Trolls. > Your feedback is much appreciated. :D I still don't understand why you persist asking for feedback if then you don't tolerate feedback that is not in line with what you expect. I understand that everyone is proud of their own little babies, but I pesonally find more interesting names which suggest a pun, either implicitly of explictly. Conman would be a nice joke, IMHO, exactly because of it explicitly suggesting "fraudster" while being something else, but obviously you are free to name your little baby as you want. Just don't get why you want to share your personal murmurations about your own choice, given that you don't want anybody to interfere with such choice in practice, and you get terribly upset if somebody makes a joke out of it... KatolaZTheTroll -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net -- http://katolaz.homeunix.net -- ] [ GNU/Linux User:#325780/ICQ UIN: #258332181/GPG key ID 0B5F062F ] [ Fingerprint: 8E59 D6AA 445E FDB4 A153 3D5A 5F20 B3AE 0B5F 062F ] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On 03/02/2016 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: In exactly this sense: Let's leave "transmuting into organic fertilizer" to the fraudsters and break up this boring and somehow quite exhausted "network - connection - manager" triangle... +1 on "connection" and "manager"... Let's take a moment to grossly oversimplify what the software does! It helps you put things up, inspect them, and take them down again. What other tools allow that? How about "net-peg" or "net-pin"? Or, looking around my work area desperately for similar metaphors, "net-sticker" or "cable-tie" :) David ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:48:43 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > Thanks to all Trolls. > Your feedback is much appreciated. :D Ho Edward, actually I didn't want to share my first spontaneous idea, but now I kind of have to, although you sometimes seem to excessively like getting things wrong ;) I was going to suggest GUIP (from gui and ip). A quick web search then led me to the urbandict, which says that this unique combination of letters is already being used in a rather unfavorable sense. In exactly this sense: Let's leave "transmuting into organic fertilizer" to the fraudsters and break up this boring and somehow quite exhausted "network - connection - manager" triangle... Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On 02/03/2016 05:48 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > What about: "nm-pitbull" in honour of the trolls? :D > The cat lovers among us might prefer Netmanx. Or... Edbarx Netmanx. fsr ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
The current name sounds decent, maybe you could host the tarballs on sf.net so people can find it there. On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 7:05 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several > pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial > projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a > unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper > sites. > > I am suggesting this name: > nm-devuan for network manager Devuan. > > I am open to other suggestions. > > Edward > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Take back your privacy. Switch to www.StartMail.com ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
Hi All, It nice to learn from trolls that my little "pitbull", netman, is a thorn deeply in their side. But, let us discuss the new name, so that users would find it more readily while searching the internet. Yes, trolls do not like this move which shows it is a good move. What about: "nm-pitbull" in honour of the trolls? :D Thanks to all Trolls. Your feedback is much appreciated. :D Edward On 03/02/2016, aitor_czr wrote: > Changing the Subject :) > >> On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Mitt Green wrote: >>> Edward Bartolo wrote: >I am suggesting this name: >nm-devuan for network manager Devuan. >>> I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it, >>> as long as people from other communities >>> will probably use it too. >>> >>> netconman for Network Connections Manager >>> would be nice. >> > > 'Netconman' is very similar to the existing 'connman', and 'Network > Connections Manager' is too long. > > Another choice: > > *nm-tools* > > Cheers, > > Aitor. > > > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
aitor_czr wrote: >'Netconman' is very similar to the existing 'connman', and >'Network Connections Manager' is too long. Okay, maybe connetman then? :) >Another choice: >*nm-tools* nm-tool is a binary, provided by network-manager package. Mitt ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
Changing the Subject :) On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Mitt Green wrote: Edward Bartolo wrote: >I am suggesting this name: >nm-devuan for network manager Devuan. I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it, as long as people from other communities will probably use it too. netconman for Network Connections Manager would be nice. 'Netconman' is very similar to the existing 'connman', and 'Network Connections Manager' is too long. Another choice: *nm-tools* Cheers, Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Mitt Green wrote: I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it, as long as people from other communities will probably use it too. +1 Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
Edward Bartolo wrote: >I am suggesting this name: >nm-devuan for network manager Devuan. I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it, as long as people from other communities will probably use it too. netconman for Network Connections Manager would be nice. My two cents, Mitt ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Change netman into another name.
Hi All, I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper sites. I am suggesting this name: nm-devuan for network manager Devuan. I am open to other suggestions. Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
