[Elecraft] KX3 wattage

[JP Douglas]

Hi all!

While having a QSO yesterday from my mobile to a QRP station on 20 meters, the 
gentleman I was chatting with mentioned that the KX3 now does up to 20 watts of 
power. Never heard this before and wondering if it's true, currently my KX3 
does up to 15 watts. I use my KX3 mostly for digital modes; winlink and fldigi 
but do try voice w/it once in a while.

Thanks and 73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD, Midcoast ME

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[Elecraft] Pro Audio PS

[JP Douglas]

Hi all,

I have one as well for my KX3, I've even taken it with me on holidays to the 
Caribbean were voltage is 240 volts, still plug and play, works on 120 or 240 
volts. Excellent product though in the shack I run the KX3 on battery/solar 
power.

73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD
 

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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Ca Fires

[JP Douglas]

I run a 12 volt Solar system, 4 100 watt panels hooked up to 4 6 volt Golf Cart 
batteries. I have 12 volt LED lights (look like a regular lightbulb) all over 
the QTH, run router, wifi, phone, shack all without an inverter. If you end up 
losing the things in your fridge we’re talking what, $100, so what. We’re in 
Maine so we have wood burning stove in the basement you can even cook with if 
need be.
Loose power all the time, no big deal...
73 from Ecuador where we’re on holiday w/my HF radio...
Jose Douglas KB1TCD (HC2/KB1TCD)

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> On Nov 3, 2019, at 11:53 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, Jim, I do realize that a lot of the problem is PG making poor choices 
> to benefit investors and not provide safe power.  They do the same with 
> natural gas.
> 
> SCE is better, but they're hardening their grid, fixing the problems you 
> mentioned, and we've had lots of maintenance outages to replace poles.
> 
> You mention generators, and that makes my point:
> 
> The problem is manageable.  A small generator can solve a lot of problems at 
> a fairly low cost.
> 
> I don't need much power for lighting, and have a number of battery powered 
> camping lamps that work great.  Candles too.
> 
> My internet connection and servers are mission critical to me, but that's 80 
> watts total.
> 
> If it's below freezing, I want to be able to run the furnace at least part 
> time.
> 
> My refrigerator and freezer are important, but not critical.
> 
> I can get by with about 2kw.  I think the Ryobi 2300 I have was $600.
> 
> I can go a couple of hours without power easily before I need to start 
> thinking about the generator.
> 
> Siphoning gas from the cars works -- and has been tested, new cars are harder 
> to tap for gas.
> 
> 73 -- Lynn
> 
>> On 11/3/2019 12:04 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> As to Elecraft - many of their employees live in areas that WERE affected by 
>> the power shutoffs. Some are my neighbors. Our generators have gotten a lot 
>> of running time in the past week or so.
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[Elecraft] Voice net time and freq

[JP Douglas]

Could someone please remind me days, time and freq for Elecraft voice nets?
Thanks!
Merry Christmas!
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD Bristol, ME

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Re: [Elecraft] THE FUTURE OF OUR HOBBY

[JP Douglas]

How about, I refuse to have a cell phone! Imagine that, I can get away 
without everybody trying to find me and the government can't track me 
down. If my YL, KB1TCG, really wants to find me when I'm out  she can 
cruise 20 or 40m and find me...


YL has a burner phone in case of emergencies w/daughters and grandson or 
else she wouldn't have one either.


We refuse to play their games.

I go to private schools and do hands on ham radio demos (voice & digi) 
to get youngsters interested as public schools only do as they are 
told.  We had a Prep Fair in town last Oct and did live Winlink Peer 2 
Peer on 20m, Electaft KX3 in our Hambulance in the car park and Kenwood 
TS-480 at the event.


My youngest daughter, 31 and grandson, 7 are studying for their license.

Ham Radio lives on!

Merry Christmas everyone

73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD, Bristol ME



On 12/14/2019 10:50 PM, k8mn wrote:

When I first became a radio amateur, there were something like 25,000 to 
300,000 hams in the U.S. alone. There are more than 700,000 now. I'm 
optimistic. A cellular telephone isn't amateur radio.Sent from my Samsung 
Galaxy smartphone.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA100 as a mobile?

[JP Douglas]

I use a spanish made Falcon Outback 1899 antenna w/Goliath mag mount. Supposed 
to do 80 -6 metres but won’t do 80 in my little Chevy, has jumpers for diff 
bands. Max 125 watt. Works great for me.
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On Apr 7, 2020, at 9:16 PM, Tox  wrote:
> 
> Suggestions for a mobile HF antenna that could sanely be attached to a Rav4 ?
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> AD6YT
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 6:13 PM John Hendricks  wrote:
>> 
>> I have used this combination successfully. Worked great if a efficent
>> antenna is used on 20 meters.  Have now moved the combination to a go box,
>> capable of Pactor, with more digital modes to come.
>> 
>> John K7JLT
>> 
>> John K7JLT
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 5:36 PM Steve KC6ZKT  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been thinking about installing an HF mobile rig. One idea that
>>> appeals to me is a KX3/KXPA100 setup, where the radio is can be placed
>>> and hooked-up in (passenger side) glove box, and the amp is more
>>> permanently installed under a back seat.
>>> 
>>> I have two questions:
>>> 
>>> 1) If you have tried this, can you tell me about your experience? How
>>> did it work? How was it set-up? Etc.
>>> 
>>> 2) What will I be giving up if I cannot really operate the controls on
>>> the KXPA100 and only have the KX3 in front of me?
>>> --
>>> --... ...--
>>> SteveSgt, KC6ZKT, @CM97bj73
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Settings for SignaLink USB

[JP Douglas]

You have the Signalink w/the module or the one w/jumpers? Several of my friends 
have had trouble w/the Signalink w/the module, I have two Signalinks, both 
w/jumpers and don’t have any issues.
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD


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> On Apr 4, 2020, at 4:21 AM, David Bondy  wrote:
> 
> I have been using digital modes for years and have a number of SignaLink USB 
> devices which have all worked very well with a variety of rigs. 
> 
> I am new to the K3 and have bought the Tigertronics cable and module set to 
> allow me to connect a SignaLink USB to the rear Line In/Out and PTT 
> connections on my K3.
> 
> I am able to operate the rig (via a USB to RS232 cable for CAT) and transmit 
> JT8 signals (via the SignaLink) - I can see that I am getting out by 
> monitoring Hamspots!  HOWEVER I am not able to get enough drive from the K3 
> via the Signalink USB to decode incoming signals.
> 
> Can someone who has this working please tell me what settings they have made 
> to the K3 in order to drive the SignaLink? I have set CONFIG > LIN OUT  to 
> 100 and I have rotated the Rx knob to full clockwise on the SignaLink but I 
> am still not getting enough output to drive WSJT-X.  I am sure that I am 
> missing something but I don’t know what because I would expect the LIN OUT 
> setting to be more like 10!
> 
> Thanks in advance and 73,
> 
> David G4NRT
> 
> P.S. Please don’t bother to reply telling me to connect the rig to my PC 
> sound card … it doesn’t have one!
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Re: [Elecraft] K4??? - OT

[JP Douglas]

my YL’s been cutting my hair for years, I give her great tips!...and let her 
use my KX3 once in a while...
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On May 16, 2020, at 9:16 AM, John Simmons  wrote:
> 
> I cut my hair with a razor. See my QRZ page.
> 
> de John NIØK
> 
> WW3S wrote on 5/16/2020 8:03 AM:
>> pretty sure of two things.
>> 
>> my hair is longer now that my senior picture in 1975
>> 
>> the longer I stay at home, the more homeless I look.
>> 
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft" 
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Sent: 5/16/2020 8:48:35 AM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K4??? - OT
>> 
>>> https://www.flowbee.com/
>>> 
>>> I can't believe that is still around!
>>> 
>>> '73 de JIM N2ZZ
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:26 AM
>>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4???
>>> 
 On 5/15/2020 7:48 PM, Drew AF2Z wrote:
>  I cut my own hair-- it is passable at "social distancing" distances.
>  Whatever it looks like it feels a lot better nice and short.
>>> 
>>> I get my hair cut a couple of times a year, whether it needs it or not.
>>> My most recent was a month or two before going into lockdown. I'll let
>>> my wife grab a bowl and do it when it gets too long. Better than COVID-19.
>>> 
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Hum on TX audio w/ CM500 headset on KX3

[JP Douglas]

Hello, inmates!
not all mics on the Yamaha CM-500 headsets are electret, I tested mine before 
making the connectors; I am not using it w/my KX3, using w/Kenwood TS-480 and 
Yaesu FT-897.
Cheers,
Jose Douglas KB1TCD

Stay Free everyone!


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> On May 10, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
>> On 5/10/2020 12:05 PM, Frank O'Donnell wrote:
>> For my CM500 headset with the KX3, I referred to Walter Underwood K6WRU's 
>> blog posts to order the adapter allowing the CM500 mic plug and a PTT switch 
>> to share the radio's mic jack. I also followed his checklist from a second 
>> blog post to set TX EQ and mic bias.
>> While adjusting the mic gain with the TX power set to 0.0, I noticed hum on 
>> my audio from the CM500 mic. This was audible regardless of whether I had 
>> the PTT cable attached, or if I left it detached and tapped the XMIT button. 
>> The hum also appeared regardless of whether I used the CM500 phones vs other 
>> headphones. If I unplug the adapter and use the handheld mic that came with 
>> the KX3, the hum does *not* appear.
>> Any suggestions on what I should look at to run this down?
> 
> 1) Is what you hear HUM (pure 60 Hz) or BUZZ (harmonics of 60 Hz)? In 
> general, most hum is magnetically coupled, while buzz is power line leakage 
> currents, aggravated by by Pin One Problems and failure to do proper bonding.
> 
> 2) Make sure that the adapters you got are actually doing what you think they 
> are doing (or that you want them to do), checkin them out with an Ohmmeter.
> 
> 3) Make sure that bias is turned on -- the mic in CM500s is an electret, 
> which requires bias.
> 
> 4) Make sure that Mic Gain and Comp are not turned up too high. To set them, 
> turn Comp all the way down, set TXEQ (see next step), then set Mic Gain to 
> get indicated 100% modulation on the meter.
> 
> 5) For TXEQ, set three lowest bands (50, 100, 200 Hz) for max cut, set next 
> band (400 Hz) for 6dB cut), set the top two bands for about 6dB boost.
> 
> 6) Make sure that everything in your station that connects to AC power, 
> including any computer CONNECTED to your radio and anything connected to the 
> computer, has their chassis bonded together AND powered from the same outlet, 
> or from outlets whose green wires are bonded together, and one of those 
> chassis connections bonded to your station ground , AND all grounds in your 
> home all bonded together. These slides have drawings that illustrate 
> conceptually how to do it right.
> 
> http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] VFO drift KX3

[JP Douglas]

My KX3 also drifts as well, I mostly use it on digital modes. Can’t remember 
when I bought it but it was over 3 years ago.
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:31 AM, Eddy Avila  wrote:
> 
> Lately, I've noticed my 3-year-old KX3 drifts a small amount, according to
> the readout, in CW mode. For instance, if I set rig on 7.033.00 hit the key
> and look at the readout it will say 7.033.010 and sometimes bounces back to
> 7.033.00
> 
> I don't remember this being a problem before. Is this normal for the KX3 or
> is there something I should look into?
> 
> Thanks and 73
> 
> Ed ~ k6sdw
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Fires

[JP Douglas]

please stop ur political nonsense and stick to ham radio.
thanks!
Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On Oct 15, 2020, at 7:02 AM,   wrote:
> 
> Amen to Walter's response.  Sure, there are plenty of examples of things not
> being done quite right, but the real truth is that things are so far out of
> control it's almost amazing that anything got saved in the fires!  Our
> resources are being overwhelmed!!!
> 
> 
> 
> Until we get our heads screwed on right, and face up to the fact that global
> warming is real, this kind of thing is going to continue.  It's already too
> late to make things get much better very quickly.  The desert "burned up"
> this summer from a record number of excessive heat days (over 100 F.),
> California, and Oregon, and Washington burned up literally, and our southern
> regions are getting slammed by historic numbers of hurricanes.  This is not
> just happening by "accident".  It is self induced!  We are destroying the
> planet slowly but surely.
> 
> 
> 
> If you really want to better understand what is happening, and why, I
> recommend you view David Attenborough's latest documentary "A Life On Our
> Planet", which is currently available on Netflix.  It's a superb explanation
> of how we got where we are, why we are seeing all these fires and floods,
> and what we have to do SOON!  Ignore it if you will, but that doesn't solve
> a thing!  Making empty excuses doesn't help either.
> 
> 
> 
> Dave W7AQK
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 21:07:33 -0700
> 
> From: Walter Underwood mailto:wun...@wunderwood.org>
>> 
> 
> To: Elecraft Reflector   >
> 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Fires
> 
> Message-ID: <9551405d-4459-4f79-a8d1-a785caf29...@wunderwood.org
>  >
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> 
> 
> 
> The Creek Fire was burning through forests that were 80-90% bark beetle kill
> 
> in mountain wilderness. It is simply not possible to ?thin? that. From 2014
> to 2018,
> 
> the number of dead trees in California increased from 11 million to 147
> million.
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone who thinks there is a simple solution needs to think some more.
> 
> 
> 
> If you want to help, I already know of five Scout camps with major damage,
> 
> one in our council, near Big Basin. They will all need donations to rebuild.
> 
> 
> 
> wunder
> 
> K6WRU
> 
> Walter Underwood
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: RF interference from grow lights (maybe).

[JP Douglas]

A friend of mine had same issues a couple of years ago here in Maine, turned 
out it was marijuana growers using non approved chinese grow lights brought in 
illegally through Canada and being sold in Portland, ME.
We put an end to that, the FCC deputised my friend...even got in the Portland 
newspaper.
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On Aug 21, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Phil Kane  wrote:
> 
> On 8/21/2020 10:36 AM, ab2tc wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for your response and I did receive several private E-mails as well.
>> It sounds like a phone call to the power company should be my next move. If
>> I just could find a way to get to a live person without going through a
>> million automated responses and interminable waits!
> 
> In another life when I was with the San Francisco office of the FCC, I
> used to refer IX calls to Pacific Gas & Electric in California and my
> contact there was Jim Gillespie in General Construction.  Jim was a
> great help, and I used to kid him that if this was too much work for him
> he could always go back to washing insulators!  His counterpart at
> Southern California Edison was also well-known as an IX-finder.  We're
> all retired from IX-chasing now and I wouldn't have any idea who to
> refer such calls to today.
> 
> As Ken Brown (W2KB) has pointed out over the years, it's to the
> advantage of the utility to find and fix such leaks (if that is the
> problem) because it loses money to have energy delivered to a non-paying
> load.
> 
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
> 
> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

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Pricey!
I bought an 75 amp/hr AGM deep cycle battery a couple of years ago for $138.00 
with free shipping from epay, works fine.
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On May 24, 2020, at 3:59 PM, James Bennett via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> 
> I’ve been a customer of Northern Arizona Wind & Sun for many years. I have 
> always been partial to the Concorde “Sun Xtender” line. Here is a link:
> 
> https://www.solar-electric.com/residential/batteries-battery-storage.html?manufacturer=369_battery_type=443_battery_voltage=386
>  
> 
> 
> 73, Jim / W6JHB
> 
>> On May 24, 2020, at 12:14 PM, David Lear  wrote:
>> 
>> Now my club is nixing a close  community effort I'm going to operate FD as
>> 2E running K3/P3 at 100W. Neighbor AF4B operating across the road from me
>> with his K3. Vertical antenna on my front lawn and me operating from my
>> garage. Maybe for 12 hours, if I can make it. Any suggestions for a
>> good quality AGM battery(s). Limit to $250.
>> 
>> 73, Dave Lear NE5DL
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

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75 amp AGM batteries still $140.00 on epay w/free shipping, I prefer them to 
the 105 amp/hr batteries as they weigh a little less.
Use it w/50 watt Solar Panel and have done FD from start to finish with it as 
long as weather cooperates.

73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On May 25, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Phil Kane  wrote:
> 
> On 5/25/2020 10:09 AM, JP Douglas wrote:
> 
>> I bought an 75 amp/hr AGM deep cycle battery a couple of years ago
>> for $138.00 with free shipping from epay, works fine.
> 
> That was a decent price "a couple of years ago".  It's gone up since
> then.  It's almost time to renew my Trojan 27AGM (75 AH) batts.  We're
> planning to move a year from now and I hope that the existing ones will
> hold out until then.  Makes swapping them easy (local pickup from the
> wholesaler).
> 
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
> 
> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] External battery for KX2, field day and SOTA

[JP Douglas]

Amazon is selling a 12v 6amp battery for $30 w/free shipping, fits in 
the palm of your hand. Ordered one last Friday to use w/KX3...


73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

On 6/1/2020 7:39 AM, Doug Daniels wrote:

I'm hoping to get my KX2 for Field Day, and am looking to get an external
battery to use for FD as well as SOTA. I'm looking at the Talentcell and
Bienno 12v 12Ah ones. Anything specific to the KX2 I need to know about
external batteries? I know the internal one is more or less proprietary.


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Net on 75M

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Hi all,

I run a 75m Emergency Mgmt regional net Sundays at 21:00 UTC on 3.940 and The 
Seagull net is active rest of the week here in ME same freq.
I find the band goes long shortly after the net is over, around 21:30.
Might want to not use 3.940 for a net...
I’d be willing to try  Elecraft net anytime after 22:00 UTC.
BTW, around 20:30 UTC yesterday a friend (N1EP) was trying his Yaesu FT-817 @ 5 
watts  on 3.940 so I answered him w/my KX3 @ 15 watts. He was coming in 5.3 and 
I was at 5.7. Distance was only 90 miles. Switched back to my Kenwood TS-830S 
for the net as I am nervous running a net on 15 watts.
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD Mid Coast ME

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> On May 31, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Paul Van Dyke  wrote:
> 
> listening on 3.940
> 
> 
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 7:48 PM Ken Roberson  wrote:
>> 
>> Monitoring 3875 KHZ - Ken K5DNL
>> 
>> On Sunday, May 31, 2020, 5:18:53 PM CDT, Paul Van Dyke <
>> pvandyke1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, propagation really doesn't start in my area till 2400. It
>> would change the WW Net to strictly a local net.  And 3.825, has a major
>> net at 24:00. So right now I'm looking at 3.875
>> 
>> Paul  KB9AVO
>> 
>>> On Sun, May 31, 2020, 5:55 PM Jan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Paul, KB9AVO in n.e. Indiana
>>> 
>>> Will you find ANY propagation on 3920 kHz during the middle of the
>>> afternoon ?
>>> 
>>> Maybe ~ but kinda doubtful
>>> 
>>> Regards, Jan K1ND in s.e. Michigan
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Smoke detectors

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About 12 years ago we had a carbon monoxide detector in the upstairs hallway 
not far from the shack. Every time I was on a 2m net (could have been 6m, I 
forget...)the detector would start chirping, I even lowered power from 65 to 25 
watts, same issue. Eventually the thing wouldn’t stop chirping at all so we 
threw it away, put a smoke detector in it’s place, got a 10 year carbon 
monoxide detector and put it in the guest bedroom which is further away from 
the shack and never had a problem again.
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD Mid Coast ME


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> On Oct 25, 2020, at 6:36 AM, Geoffrey Feldman  wrote:
> 
> The reason to keep smoke detectors from Amateur Radios is that they detect
> smoke by ionization from a radioactive source.  A strong near field will set
> them off.  The good news is that this is your indication that all is not
> right at the feed line (Or the antenna is unhealthy close).  I have had this
> experience myself, fixed the feed line and the issue went away.   That was
> with 100w on 80 meters.  Unlike real smoke, the detector will stop
> complaining when the transmission stops.
> -73-
> Geoff W1GCF
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Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

[JP Douglas]

Some antennas work great in some places and not so in others depending on 
ground conditions, from personal experience in granite filled Maine.
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD


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> On Aug 4, 2020, at 5:00 AM, K8TE  wrote:
> 
> Kevin is on to something when he compares antennas instantly which I assume
> from his description.  Most antenna anecdotes state something like "It works
> much better than...I had up previously.  But, both antennas aren't up and in
> use at the same time.
> 
> My good friend Alan, K0BG, puts it very well.  "WORKs is an acronym which
> means WithOut Real Knowledge."  Why?  Because the performance assertions are
> not comparative like one gets when using two WSPRLit transmitters on two
> antennas at the same time over time.  Those data will show which antenna
> performs better and how consistently better one antenna is than the other. 
> In every case when I compare antennas, they always out-perform one or two
> others at some point in time.  But, one of the three performs better on
> certain bands at certain times, most, but not all of the time.
> 
> This past Saturday, I frequently noted one dipole out-performed the other on
> a specific station at a specific time, regardless of the band (40m and 20m). 
> I had callers answer my CQ's that I could not here on the other dipole and
> that was true for both dipoles most of the time.  They would "change places"
> at different times for the same paths.  Being able to instantly switch
> between antennas (K3 with internal ATU) helped me make more contacts than if
> I had just one of those dipoles, both about the same height, but at nearly
> right angles to each other.  When I had a vertical in the air, it would
> sometimes out-perform both dipoles over the same paths.
> 
> Every antenna "WORKS", even a dummy load with imperfect coax.  Some antennas
> generally out-perform others.  Don't tell me yours works better than mine
> without scientific proof, not anecdotes.  W8JI has done a lot of antenna
> modeling and on-the-air comparisons in making assertions about antennas'
> performance.  I recently read his statement about end-fed wires being a cult
> today.  He goes on to explain their failings don't appear when using QRP and
> with no other antenna available for comparisons.
> 
> As N0AX wrote, "The best antennas is the one that is up in the air." or
> similar words.  He also wrote the half wave dipole is simple and it works
> well and makes the best first choice.  I would add, the higher the better
> until it's a half wavelength high.  K9YC has done modeling that points this
> out and debunks most of the NVIS myths that abound in which users state we
> need to lower our antennas for NVIS.
> 
> I use end-fed wires when appropriate--SOTA, POTA, and on county lines were
> simplicity and rapid deployment matter more  than RFI, most of which I can
> mitigate or ignore.  I use dipoles at home and most are resonant.  I also
> use WSPRLite to get scientific performance data before I assert they WORK or
> which one is better.  As I wrote above, I will keep both those dipoles
> because they both out-perform the other at times.  As my antenna farm grows,
> one dipole will remain as my measurement "standard" so I can truly say my
> new antenna (nothing short and shiny) out-performs my dipole.  And yes,
> neither is perfect so I use a tuner when necessary on certain
> bands/frequencies.
> 
> 73, Bill, K8TE
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Alinco EMS-14 mic with K2?

[JP Douglas]

I have the mic but use it with the Alinco DX-8SR that I use as a cellar shack 
radio. Good mic, never tried to use it w/my Elecraft radio though...
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On Aug 4, 2020, at 8:23 PM, Phil Kane  wrote:
> 
> 
> For the 15 or so years that I have used my K2 the mic I used was an
> Adonis AM-308, a Kenwood-compatible desk mic.  It gave me good service
> but failed recently, and is no longer available.  It was replaced with
> the Alinco EMS-14 desk mic which appears to be a re-branded  AM-308 (to
> the point where the pc board in the mic base carries the "AM-308"
> label).  The cable pin-out on the 8-pin "Foster" connector is identical.
> The only difference appears to be that the Adonis mic used two AA
> batteries while the Alinco mic draws its power from the rig's +V on the
> mic connector.
> 
> It should be plug-and-play compatible using the cables that worked with
> the Adonis mic but unfortunately the mic does not activate the K2.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience using the Alinco EMS-14 mic?
> 
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] New antenna works!

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I prefer to use resonant antennas, either single or multi band and not use a 
tuner, however, I have encountered that even resonant antennas are not always 
so due to ground conditions,
Case in point, two weeks ago we hiked to the summit of Sentinel Mountain in 
Baxter State Park. I carried my KX3, foldable 42 watt solar panel, 6amp/hr 
lithium battery, coax and a 40 meter resonant slinky antenna which I had 
previously tested at my QTH in Mid Coast, ME. Antenna would not resonate due to 
the granite terrain. Luckily I brought with me a mAT-10 qrp tuner I had just 
purchased and was able to get on the air just fine. Tried to post pix earlier 
but file was too big for the reflector. I’ll gladly send it to antone that 
wants to see it.
Stay Free everyone!
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On Aug 1, 2020, at 3:12 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> 
> For what it may be worth, I'm a staunch supporter of antenna tuners myself.  
> I previously used one for many years to get 5 band operation out of two 
> vertical pieces of tubing on my roof back when I lived in Scottsdale, and I 
> just built a high power monster to get full coverage of the low bands with my 
> current antennas here in the boonies.  I'm definitely not one of those who 
> think that antennas need to be resonant to be any good.
> 
> Antenna tuners can indeed be lossy, but with the right components they don't 
> have to be, and if they are lossy enough to significantly affect your signal 
> most of them will burn up first.  TLW, the free app that comes with the ARRL 
> Antenna Book, is quite informative on that score.
> 
> My gripe with the original post from G3UNA was simply his generalization that 
> resonant antennas are bad and that non-resonant antennas are good.
> 
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/1/2020 11:21 AM, Al Lorona wrote:
>> I'm glad Dave added that to the end of his message, because each time the 
>> topic of multiband antennas comes up, we are told, "That's too lofty a goal 
>> for one antenna. Just put up a resonant antenna and all your troubles will 
>> be gone." All except for the problem of operating on all bands without 
>> having to put up 9 resonant HF antennas, that is. I think we do a disservice 
>> to the hundreds of hams reading this by discouraging them from multiband 
>> operation just because we deem it too "noisy" or "lossy" or "inconvenient" 
>> or whatever.
>> 
>> If a man or woman, knowing full well the consequences of his or her actions, 
>> chooses to utilize a single, horizontal antenna of no particular length, 
>> ultra-low-loss feedline long enough to reach the shack, and a low-loss 
>> homebrew or commercial manual antenna tuner to operate on all bands, then 
>> who are we to tell him or her that they shouldn't? To do so has always 
>> struck me as presumptuous.
>> 
>> Incidentally, can we do two things? Can we all get over the gross assumption 
>> that we continue to make, that when someone mentions feeding an antenna with 
>> "balanced line" that must mean Wireman #553? There are better alternatives. 
>> If our beef is with Wireman #553, then let's be on with it without 
>> condemning *all* forms of balanced line.
>> 
>> Secondly, antenna tuners are not necessarily lossier than the aggregate of 
>> cables, connectors, wattmeters, filters, switches, elbows, lightning 
>> arrestors, baluns, autotuners, , , that many folks use. Everything has 
>> loss, but in effect we trade that loss for some other valuable function... 
>> like being able to QSY anwhere, easily. To give you a data point, on 12 
>> meters my station has a max loss (from transmitter to the antenna feedpoint) 
>> of 1.6 dB. I'll put that worst-case number up against anybody's long run of 
>> coax through all the other junk from their transmitter to their antenna.
>> 
>> Folks, you should not feel inferior for having chosen to operate on many 
>> bands with an antenna tuner. I think the case could be made that the 
>> *resonant* antenna is the compromise, giving up all band operation for some 
>> other desired function. And sadly, sometimes that compromise is made just so 
>> they can say that they're not using a tuner!
>> 
>> Al  W6LX
>> 
>> 
> Multi-band antennas are fine as long as you recognize that they are a
> compromise.
> Dave   AB7E
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Re: [Elecraft] 1st 80 Meter Elecraft Net

[JP Douglas]

Don't know what time the net was held but please note there is a net 
seven days a week at 21:00 UTC on that frequency here in Maine; Seagull 
net M-Sat and ME Emergency Management on Sun.


Thanks and 73

Jose Douglas KB1TCD - ARES Coordinator Lincoln County ME - Net Control 
ME Emergency Mgmt Net




On 6/7/2020 10:03 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote:

KB9AVO: Elecraft 3.940 Net
  Date: 6/7/2020  Frequency: 3.94000
  Total Number Stations = 10

K8NU   Carl  OH
WB9JNZ   Eric  IL
WM6P   Steve  GA
N9YH   CHRIS  IL
AB4IQ   ED  KY
W1GO   Joseph  NY
NG9NG   SAM  WI
KB8RXG   LEWIS  MI
WY3T   TIM  FL
KC8HMJ   RICH  MI

I want to thank all those that
came up on 80m to help kick off the
1st Elecraft net on that frequency.

   See you next week
  Paul - KB9AVO - Net Control


   Post to your radio shack

20 Meter Elecraft Net
Sunday 18:00z   14.3035 +/-

40 Meter Elecraft Net
Sunday 18:45z   7.280

80 Meter Elecraft Net
Sunday Night 01:00z
   3.940 +/-
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Re: [Elecraft] Peaks, parks, and prayers: CW & SSB islands in a digital sea

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You can get a brand new Dell Win 10 solid drive laptop for $150 that also lets 
you use winlink, not much memory but if you are only using it for ham 
applications it works fine, that’s what I use as a dedicated ham laptop.
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On Jun 7, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Gwen Patton  wrote:
> 
> I use an older Chromebook, Dave. I removed Chrome OS and replaced it with
> GalliumOS, a Linux distro for Chromebooks. You can get an older model
> Chromebook for really cheap these days, and that gives you a display,
> battery, keyboard, trackpad, processor, and multiple digital mode apps, all
> nicely self-contained. And you can use it for other things, too. The only
> thing you'll have to add is a soundcard dongle, because the incredibly
> stupid audio system in most Chromebooks is too braindead to work on digital
> ham apps. Even a really fancy one will cost you only around $30, and there
> are far cheaper ones that will do. That's the dongle, not the Chromebook. I
> paid about $120 for this one about 5 years ago. I replaced the Chromebook
> with a better, faster one with more RAM, a microSD slot that doesn't stick
> half an inch out of the side of the machine, and USB-C.
> 
> I've got WSJT-X and JS8Call on it already, some logging programs, and
> things like Echolink. The MDS Phaser I use it with is set up for 40m FT8
> and JS8, but I can switch the JS8 to any frequency I want and run other
> modes if I feel like it. Perhaps some Slow-Scan images, who knows?
> 
> I've seen some very fancy Raspberry Pi builds for it, though, if you want
> to go that route. You'd have to add a display, keyboard, mouse, and power.
> OR you can set it up headless and run it with a tablet or even your phone
> over a remote access program like VNC. But that adds even more expense
> unless you already have the tablet or phone. I'd still recommend a wireless
> keyboard, though. Typing on a phone or tablet can be a pain, and there's
> some really nice Bluetooth keyboards out there now, even folding ones you
> can stow really easily.
> 
> I really like the Phaser. It's more challenging on FT8 than a full QRO
> station, of course, and it's VERY packable. It makes a fantastic field rig
> for working from parks, or probably for summit operation, though I don't do
> that. There's few summits you can take a wheelchair to. hi hi
> 
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> 73,
> Gwen, NG3P
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 10:33 PM David Gilbert  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks to Ray and Gwen for the tip, and that indeed looks like a really
>> nice low cost way to go.  But I already have a KX2 and I would still need
>> to bring along a notebook or small laptop computer.  I could certainly
>> homebrew a combined unit consisting of the MDS Phasor, a Raspberry Pi, and
>> a 12 volt display ... total cost would probably be less than $200.  I just
>> think that a self-contained unit would be inherently smaller, and probably
>> a good seller if Elecraft ever was inclined to offer one, especially if it
>> provided multiple bands.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Dave   AB7E
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 6:50 PM Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My pleasure, Paul. Feel free to repost elsewhere.
>>> 
>>> And keep on truckin' :)
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 7, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Paul Gacek  wrote:
 
 Wayne
 
 Thanks for promoting wilderness radio including SOTA and I hope you
>>> don’t mind but I copied your entire message into a post on the global
>> SOTA
>>> Reflector (watering  hole).
 
 
>>> 
>> https://reflector.sota.org.uk/t/wayne-burdick-elecraft-promoting-sota-cw-and-ssb/22983
 
 You captured the essence and feeling of mountain top radio. I love it
>>> and never cease to get a kick out of what you describe around the moment
>> of
>>> the first contact (which includes a mountain of anticipation as to
>> whether
>>> there will be a first contact).
 
 Of my almost 250 mountain top activations and 40 or 50 NPOTA
>>> activations, I had either my KX3 or KX2 and neither have ever let me
>> down.
>>> My antennas have failed, my coax has failed and my ability to spot (I’m
>> SSB
>>> so not RBN for me) has in a hollowing gale atop a cold mountain had be
>>> retreat and fail but never the radio.
 
 Thanks Wayne (and your team) for all you have done for the /P brigade.
 
 Paul
 W6PNG/M0SNA
 www.nomadic.blog
 
 
> On Jun 7, 2020, at 2:35 PM, David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> I suggested this about a year ago and got mostly dismissive replies
>> from
> the group, but I still think that a small, dedicated FT8 rig (and
>>> similar
> modes) would be an attractive offering.  Something the size of a KX2
>> or
> maybe just a little larger, with a modest display and separate
> processors/memory for the rig and the digital modes.  It's entirely
> possible to run FT8 from a Raspberry Pi and an inexpensive display,
>> but
>>> an
> all-in-one rig would be so much 

Re: [Elecraft] 1st 80 Meter Elecraft Net

[JP Douglas]

Looks like some messages randomly go to junk, seems I’m getting three quarters 
of the messages...
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On Jun 8, 2020, at 1:55 AM, Graydon Jensen (N7RXL)  wrote:
> 
> You quoted the time... :-)
> 
> Looks like 5 hours apart, at 01:00 UTC
> 
> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 23:48, JP Douglas
>  wrote:
> Don't know what time the net was held
> 
> 
> On 6/7/2020 10:03 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote:
> > KB9AVO: Elecraft 3.940 Net
> >  Date: 6/7/2020  Frequency: 
> 
> >
> > 
> >Post to your radio shack
> >
> >20 Meter Elecraft Net
> >Sunday 18:00z  14.3035 +/-
> >
> >40 Meter Elecraft Net
> >Sunday 18:45z  7.280
> >
> >80 Meter Elecraft Net
> >Sunday Night 01:00z
> >3.940 +/-
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Re: [Elecraft] Joke status wasn't wasted on me 

[JP Douglas]

What does this have to do with Elecraft???

Please do not waste my time!

Thanks!

Jose Douglas KB1TCD

On 7/16/2020 7:12 PM, Rose wrote:

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020, 16:59 Fred Jensen  wrote:


Yes, I too have a math degree and the mean population density of
California is ~98/sq km and yes, all the people in CA could stand well
more than 1 m apart and no one would need scuba tanks or find themselves
in Nevada [or Oregon or Arizona or Baja California].  I made it up ...
it was intended as a joke.  It's a good thing I ended up supporting my
family with math and engineering degrees since I don't hold a degree in
comedy and apparently  I suck at it. [:=)

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 7/16/2020 3:14 PM, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote:

Not waiting on a K4, got my KX2 and perfectly happy.  Also, off topic

and not intended to besmirch anyone, but being a math geek in a math geeky
hobby . . .

“The population density in California is high ... high enough that if

everyone stood 1 meter from everyone else, some would be standing in Nevada
and some in the Pacific Ocean.”

Check your math.  World population is about 8 Billion.  Give everyone a

Covid distance of two meters, or four square meters per person.  That gives
us 32 billion square meters to socially distance the world population.
California is about 424 billion square meters.  Plenty of room for
everybody!

Keeping Watch-
shu

Joe Shuman, KE8KJZ


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Re: [Elecraft] Using CM-500 with Elecraft Rigs

[JP Douglas]

I use the CM-500 w/my Yaesu FT-897D as well as with my Kenwood TS-480SAT 
with no "power adder", works fine.


73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

On 11/8/2020 10:03 PM, Jim Rhodes wrote:

Yes, what you said was " Kenwood, Yaesu and Ten-Tec transceivers do not
provide bias for an electret mic *at all*. To use an electret mic with
those transceivers one needs to install a "power adder"". Actually they do
provide bias to their own line of electret mics, so you could have been a
little more specific and said "for non-OEM mics".  We can't tell what you
are thinking when you type.

On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 8:26 PM Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:


  > NOT SO,  DICK TRACY.   All three manufacturers provide 5-10v bias
  > voltage on either Pin 2 or Pin 5, respectively - (and have done so for
  > many years.)
  >

Read *ALL* of what I wrote.  I indicated that the power is on pin 2
(Kenwood) or 5 (Yaesu/Ten-Tec) but one had to add a 5K6 Ohm resistor
and 1 uF blocking capacitor in order to use an electret mic.  Those
manufacturers do not provide "automatic" operation with the CM500
or other electret mics.

73,

 ... Joe, W4TV


On 2020-11-08 8:10 PM, JR wrote:

 Joe, W4TV, said:
 Kenwood, Yaesu and Ten-Tec transceivers do not provide bias for
 an electret mic at all. To use an electret mic with those
 transceivers one needs to install a "power adder" ...

 

NOT SO,  DICK TRACY.   All three manufacturers provide 5-10v bias
voltage on either Pin 2 or Pin 5, respectively - (and have done so for
many years.)

Elecraft did operators a HUGE FAVOR  by switching bias voltage ON and
OFF with a MENU setting, adding an bonus measure of flexibility (...
which is NOT to be corn-fused with any sort of Flex-able Radio! ...
after all, this is CHAOS and we don't do that here ... ) ;-) Elecraft
earned bonus points for providing BOTH an 8-pin Foster jack AND a pair
of 3.5 mm TRS jacks to accommodate all sorts of microphones and headsets
without a middle-man adapter on its larger models - way ahead of the
field.   / K8JHR /


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Delivery?

[JP Douglas]

Is the CA Dept of Health also fake news???
Their website lists the same requirements.
Is anything that one disagrees with fake news???
I am so glad I don’t have a TV or read the so called news papers.
Let’s go bak to real news; ham radio and stop the hysteria you all love so much!
73 de Jose Douglas Mid Coast ME

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> On Oct 28, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
> 
> KUSI is literally fake news--there is no such entity registered with the
> California Secretary of State's office, either as a corporate name, or
> other business entity--in case any of you took this seriously.
> 
> 73 Eric WD6DBM
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 2:15 PM John Harper  wrote:
>> 
>> I think California's Health & Human Services Dept has banned bragging about
>> having received California products. If not, it will soon be added to this
>> list:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.kusi.com/california-releases-crazy-mandatory-guidance-for-private-gatherings-this-holiday-season/
>> 
>> John AE5X
>> https://ae5x.blogspot.com
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Broken boom mic attachment on a CM-500

[JP Douglas]

From my experience, some of the CM-500s have an electret mic and others a 
dynamic mic. I don’t know if its an age factor.
I use mine with my YAESU FT-897 and with my Kenwood TS-480, don’t have the 
adapter at this point to use with the KX3...Pretty good for an in-expensive 
boom mic.
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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> On Nov 1, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Walter Underwood  wrote:
> 
> I tried a Koss SB-45 headset and hated it. It gets good reviews from hams 
> and has
> an electret mic, but it was not comfortable at all. It sat on top of my ears 
> instead of 
> around my ears, plus it grabbed my head more tightly than the Yamaha CM-500. 
> Finally, the mic boom was not as easy to position.
> 
> I sent it back and ordered a new Yamaha CM-500. I haven’t noticed any major
> differences between the new one and my eight year old one (wires broke on 
> that one).
> The mic boom pivot is stiffer on the new one, but that could easily be a 
> normal
> manufacturing variation.
> 
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
>> 
>> The boom mic on my CM-500 is now flopping around held only by the signal 
>> wire.
>> 
>> Any ideas about how to reattach it?
>> 
>> What are the best replacement headsets these days. Someone said that the 
>> CM-500 has changed for the worse in the last few years.
>> 
>> Any other advice?
>> 
>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>> 
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[Elecraft] POTA activation

[JP Douglas]

Hi all,
I will be activating Fort Edgecomb in Maine (K-7859) for Parks On The Air 
together with WC1G and KC1KTJ this Sunday, 10 Jan from 17:00 to 20:00 UTC on 
15, 20 and 40m.
Looking forward to talking to fellow Elecrafters.
I apologise for no Elecraft content.
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Roadtrip. Winter field day

[JP Douglas]

Hi Greg,

We were talking about doing the same, three of us activated Fort Edgecomb here 
in ME last Sunday w/good success and are talking about POTA FD combo using our 
club call K1LX.
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD Bristol, ME.

> On Jan 16, 2021, at 2:47 PM, Greg Herman  wrote:
> 
> Winter field day is just around the corner and just curious if anyone is
> going to deploy a K4 on field day.
> 
> Unless we have a lot of major snow I am hoping to talk the wife into going
> camping that weekend and set up field day in our little Aliner camper.
> KX3-PX3-KXPA100, 50 AH Battleborn battery
> 
> I am planning on something slightly different
> “CQ FIELD DAY- Parks on the Air” “CQ FIELD DAY- Parks on the Air”
> This is KC9NRO standing by
> 
> I know the good folks at  Elecraft have been working hard, especially
> dealing with the lockdown mania, might be a good excuse for a road trip to
> a neighboring state with a K4
> 
> Or perhaps hide somewhere in 29 Palms LOL
> 
> 73 my friends
> Greg- KC9NRO
> 
> 29 Palms- The worlds largest ashtray and my butt was stuck there!!!
> 
> 
> -- 
> Have a Great day!
> Greg
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Re: [Elecraft] Head Phones

[JP Douglas]

I’ve got a Sennheiser headphone as well, they rock!
Also have the Yamaha headset, it’s not as good for noise cancelling as the 
Senheiser but it does have the mic.
Unless I’m in a situation where I have to use a headset with mic, I always go 
for the Senheiser.

73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

> On Jan 13, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> I have had some Sennheiser noise canceling headphones for perhaps 10 years. 
> They are still going strong with no significant signs of wear.
> 
> They work well for public service events involving parades because they make 
> it possible to hear while a high school band is playing in your ear. (You 
> also need a noise canceling mic so others can hear you over the band.)
> 
> I've never found them to be uncomfortable, even on extended airplane trip, 
> where they reduce the cabin noise level. I use them even if I'm not listening 
> to anything just to reduce the noise level.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 1/13/21 at 4:17 PM, ecke...@gmail.com (Paul Ecker) wrote:
> 
>> Know this is a well worn out subject. But looking for a reasonably priced,
>> but comfortable set of headphones. Just the headphones, don't need a mic. A
>> set that is lightweight enough to wear for a few hours but reasonable
>> performance. Any recommendations?
>> 
>> 73 Paul w2eck
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[Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today

[JP Douglas]

I find this list way too political and mostly one sided.
Could you please stop this and all political/religious discussions?
Or do I have to say something against your religion/politics  to stop the 
thread???
Thanks
73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD

> 
> From: Grant Youngman 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... 
> warning issued by FCC today
> Date: January 18, 2021 at 9:48:34 AM EST
> To: Elecraft Refl 
> 
> I’m not at all surprised the FCC felt it necessary to make the statement they 
> did.  And it certainly wasn’t limited to amateur radio licensees.
> 
> Anyone who has ever had a good chuckle or eye-roll over the “interesting QRM” 
> Wayne referred to, should know why.  That QRM,  more and more often, also 
> bleeds over into other places it doesn’t belong, like what should be 
> apolitical reflectors.  It seems there is no longer anywhere we can get away 
> from someone or some group airing their grievances wherever they are at the 
> slightest provocation.
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
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