[Orgmode] keeping track of sent emails in org?
Hi all - I'm looking into porting my planner/muse/gnus infrastructure to org. One indispensible bit of code in my current system writes a gnus message link in the current day's planner file every time I send a message from gnus. It uses Sacha Chua's sacha/planner-gnus-track-sent method here: http://sachachua.com/notebook/wiki/2006.08.10.php#anchor-3 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.wiki.general/6017 Has someone already written something like this for org? Perhaps a remember-like mechanism that writes a link to, say, Email.org? Perhaps messages could be filed under date headlines: * Sunday, October 26, 2008 ** message 1 recipient:subject [link] (or contents?) ** message 2 recipient:subject [link] (or contents?) or somesuch. Thanks for any thoughts about this - bw -- Bill White . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] keeping track of sent emails in org?
On Mon Oct 27 2008 at 13:11, Eric Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebastian Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill, to add links to autgoing mails automatically, adding a link to such a mail once should be enough, to add the right funciton to your 'mail-send-hook' (?? don't no which hook really...) since it's just a question of the link format. It seems like this could get complicated as it depends on how/where you store your sent messages. Also, it looks like org-mode links rely on the gnus group, and article id to link back to an article, so somehow you would need a hook which runs after the sent article has been saved into a group and given an ID. Ah ha! Something was bugging me about org's links to gnus messages. From what I've seen so far in my cursory tours of org, links to gnus nnml messages are, by default, of the form group#nnmlFileName rather than messageID. Message-ID is known and retrievable when gnus calls message-sent-hook (which is how Sacha's link auto-filer works), but I'm not sure the nnml filename is known at that point. Can org create message-id links to gnus messages? (sorry, that's probably a FAQ) Cheers - bw -- Bill White . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] keeping track of sent emails in org?
On Mon Oct 27 2008 at 16:35, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:17 PM, Bill White wrote: On Mon Oct 27 2008 at 13:11, Eric Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebastian Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill, to add links to autgoing mails automatically, adding a link to such a mail once should be enough, to add the right funciton to your 'mail-send-hook' (?? don't no which hook really...) since it's just a question of the link format. It seems like this could get complicated as it depends on how/where you store your sent messages. Also, it looks like org-mode links rely on the gnus group, and article id to link back to an article, so somehow you would need a hook which runs after the sent article has been saved into a group and given an ID. Ah ha! Something was bugging me about org's links to gnus messages. Can Gnus in general find messages by message-id? Then it would be nice if we could do that. I believe the mhe interface does use message-id already, maybe others too. I know this link, generated by remember, works from planner: [[gnus://nnml:wri.d-wpt/[EMAIL PROTECTED]][E-Mail from Soandso]] And this, generated from Sacha's code, also works from planner: [[gnus://nnml:archive.2008-10/[EMAIL PROTECTED]][Eric Schulte: Re: %5BOrgmode%5D keeping track of sent emails in org?]] (I store this month's outgoing mail in ~/Mail/archive/2008-10) I don't know how planner's gnus:// link works, though. Maybe some gnus-enables person would like to look into this and create patches? Gnus-enabled and time-enriched :-) - Carsten From what I've seen so far in my cursory tours of org, links to gnus nnml messages are, by default, of the form group#nnmlFileName rather than messageID. Message-ID is known and retrievable when gnus calls message-sent-hook (which is how Sacha's link auto-filer works), but I'm not sure the nnml filename is known at that point. Can org create message-id links to gnus messages? (sorry, that's probably a FAQ) Cheers - bw -- Bill White . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] keeping track of sent emails in org?
On Mon Oct 27 2008 at 16:59, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:49 PM, Bill White wrote: On Mon Oct 27 2008 at 16:35, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 2008, at 10:17 PM, Bill White wrote: On Mon Oct 27 2008 at 13:11, Eric Schulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebastian Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Bill, to add links to autgoing mails automatically, adding a link to such a mail once should be enough, to add the right funciton to your 'mail-send-hook' (?? don't no which hook really...) since it's just a question of the link format. It seems like this could get complicated as it depends on how/where you store your sent messages. Also, it looks like org-mode links rely on the gnus group, and article id to link back to an article, so somehow you would need a hook which runs after the sent article has been saved into a group and given an ID. Ah ha! Something was bugging me about org's links to gnus messages. Can Gnus in general find messages by message-id? Then it would be nice if we could do that. I believe the mhe interface does use message-id already, maybe others too. I know this link, generated by remember, works from planner: [[gnus://nnml:wri.d-wpt/[EMAIL PROTECTED]][E-Mail from Soandso]] And this, generated from Sacha's code, also works from planner: [[gnus://nnml:archive.2008-10/[EMAIL PROTECTED]][Eric Schulte: Re: %5BOrgmode%5D keeping track of sent emails in org?]] (I store this month's outgoing mail in ~/Mail/archive/2008-10) I don't know how planner's gnus:// link works, though. This looks to me that the link needs to know in which group the message is located, so such links will probably get broken when you move the message. So when you create the link in a group, then move it to a different group or folder, does the link then still work? I don't know - I never do that. Just a minute [fiddles with files...] So I went to the archive group in gnus, moved the message to nnml:temp via 'B m', then clicked the planner link to that message. The code called by the link eventually calls (gnus-summary-goto-article article-id nil t) where article-id is, in my case, the message-id. Somehow, gnus found that message and displayed it *in the archive group* (with an article ID number of -1) even though it isn't in that group anymore and I don't have gnus-registry enabled. There lurk gnus mysteries. Dunno whether that helps :-/ Cheers - bw -- Bill White . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] keeping track of sent emails in org?
On Tue Oct 28 2008 at 12:58, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I think there are interesting ideas coming up in this tasks, in particular the question if message IDs can be used to find articles in gnus, even if they have been moved around. I am not sure if this questions has been fully answered, but I have not read the thread carefully enough yet, and certainly not tried Michaels code. Right now I would like to take a little step back and understand better what the original poster is trying to do. I'm the OP; I think you captured it well in the rest of your message. Using planner/muse, I've come to think of the day page as the fundamental unit of information (though I suppose it can be used in other ways). What I do today is recorded on today's page - outgoing emails, notes, remember records; also, any planner items/projects/etc marked as 'done' are left behind on today's page. When a new day page is generated, all ongoing projects from the previous day migrate like a herd of elephants across the savannah to the new day page. My main use of that day-based information is in writing weekly and monthly reports - a collection of stuff I've done that I and others may find helpful now and in the distant future when all details have been forgotten. It seems to me so far that org doesn't have the same notion of a day page; perhaps the fundamental unit of information is the note? There seems to be a certain 'timeless' quality to org pages, aside from deadlines and schedules. That timelessness is disconcerting when coming from planner. [...snip...] To me it seems that instead of creating a sequential list of links to emails for each day, it would be more interesting to create a way to collect links relating to a project or a task in the outline node of the project, or maybe in an attachment file of the project (if the list of emails is long). Indeed. There's surely no pressing need to implement a feature that isn't useful in org's philosophy of the universe. Perhaps if I can switch over to org and begin to think in its ways, I'll find a useful fundamental unit of information other than the day page and its date-based contents. Cheers - bw -- Bill White . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] exporting unnumbered section headings?
Hi all - Inspired by other posts on the list recently, I'm setting up an org-based website. So far I've been able to change everything to suit me except numbered html section headings - I'd prefer unnumbered headings, if possible. For example, this: WRI stuff Emacs stuff instead of this: 1 WRI stuff 2 Emacs stuff Or at the very least, heading numbers like 1., 2. would be preferable. Is there a way to change this? Versions: - GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.9) of 2008-11-22 on billw-desktop - Org-mode version 6.13 Initialization: (require 'org-publish) (setq org-publish-project-alist '( (org-notes :base-directory ~/org/ :base-extension org :publishing-directory /var/www/org/ :recursive t :publishing-function org-publish-org-to-html :headline-levels 4 ; Just the default for this project. :auto-preamble t ) (org-static :base-directory ~/org/ :base-extension css\\|js\\|png\\|jpg\\|gif\\|pdf\\|mp3\\|ogg\\|swf :publishing-directory ~/public_html/ :recursive t :publishing-function org-publish-attachment) (org :components (org-notes org-static)) )) Thanks - bw -- Bill White . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: exporting unnumbered section headings?
On Sun Nov 23 2008 at 20:41, Bill White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all - Inspired by other posts on the list recently, I'm setting up an org-based website. Here's what I have so far: http://members.wolfram.com/billw (currently using the worg css definitions). I'm looking for one of those css-switcher thingies to switch the page's css file on the fly and redisplay with the new styles. Does anyone have such a thing? Cheers - bw -- Bill White . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] exporting unnumbered section headings?
On Sun Nov 23 2008 at 22:02, Sebastian Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :section-numbers nil On Sun Nov 23 2008 at 23:29, Matthew Lundin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :section-numbers nil Thanks guys! Cheers - bw -- Bill White . [EMAIL PROTECTED] . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] newbie - gnus links/split windows/breadcrumbs
Howdy - I've finally taken the plunge into org-mode - I'm transferring my last 3 years of old planner/muse notes to org for its better html export and its astounding rate of development. So naturally I've found a few little things that bug me: - gnus hyperlinks open a new frame, rather than teleporting me to my running instance of gnus in the current frame. Is it possible to keep things in one frame? My gnus links are of the form [[gnus:nnml:wri.d-wpt#87y719beqv@wolfram.com][e-mail to Joe Schmoe]] - C-o on an external link to another file in my ~/org results in a split window with the target file at the bottom. Is it possible to open targets in the same window? When I follow a trail of links to separate files (homepage - project homepage with hundreds of projects for my manager to read - details of a single project) I'm left with a tiny window and have to do C-x 1 to clean things up. - breadcrumbs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breadcrumb_(navigation). A link from, say, ~/org/projects.org, to a nonexistent file, [[file:blargh.org][blargh]], opens a buffer named blargh.org. Immediately after creating the new buffer, would it be possible to insert a link that points back to the calling page? In this example, the following link would appear at the top of blargh.org: [[file:projects.org][projects.org]]. Thanks - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] newbie's one-week report
I've been immersed in org-mode for a week now and I'm deeply impressed. - I *feel* more in charge of my todo list - I'm making better progress on projects and tracking that progress better - org-mode actively helps me organize my thoughts and notes into orderly brain dumps and data piles that are easy to navigate and understand - TODOs go right there among my brain dumps! - my manager likes org-mode's html exports of my project pages (I'm using a slightly modified version of http://orgmode.org/worg/worg.css) - it was ludicrously easy to adapt my work setup for home, where I now keep track of Important Stuff and check my agenda daily Many thanks to Carsten and the org gang, bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Buffer *temp* modified; kill anyway?
Hi all - Buffer *temp* modified; kill anyway? is driving me nuts. Has anyone seen this error message when html-exporting pages that contain #+begin_src ? I get this once for every #+begin_src ... #+end_src group on a page. I assume it's coming from htmlize.el, but I haven't been able to isolate the problem with edebug. I'm using the latest htmlize.el from http://fly.srk.fer.hr/~hniksic/emacs/htmlize.el Any ideas what's going on and how to silence it? If it weren't for this I'd be able to publish without babysitting the process through source-heavy files. Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Buffer *temp* modified; kill anyway?
On Wed Mar 04 2009 at 12:38, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote: Bill White bi...@wolfram.com wrote: Hi all - Buffer *temp* modified; kill anyway? is driving me nuts. Has anyone seen this error message when html-exporting pages that contain #+begin_src ? I get this once for every #+begin_src ... #+end_src group on a page. I assume it's coming from htmlize.el, but I haven't been able to isolate the problem with edebug. I'm using the latest htmlize.el from http://fly.srk.fer.hr/~hniksic/emacs/htmlize.el Any ideas what's going on and how to silence it? If it weren't for this I'd be able to publish without babysitting the process through source-heavy files. Bill, I just tried exporting the following: , | * Lisp source code | | #+begin_src emacs-lisp | (defun org-xor (a b) | Exclusive or. | (if a (not b) b)) | #+end_src ` and did not have the problem you describe. Can you post a minimal example? Here's one that triggers it: , | * Lisp source code | | #+begin_src message | From: Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com | Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Buffer *temp* modified; kill anyway? | To: Bill White bi...@wolfram.com | Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org | Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:38:32 -0500 (from Gnus) | Reply-To: nicholas.do...@hp.com | X-Sent: 1 hour, 9 minutes, 51 seconds ago | Message-ID: 9344.1236191...@alphaville.usa.hp.com | #+end_src ` Interestingly, the message is not triggered when I use your example with its #+begin_src emacs-lisp, nor does #+begin_src mma trigger it (using Tim Wichmann's mma.el). My versions are: - Org-mode version 6.23trans - GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.9) of 2009-02-14 on billw-desktop - htmlize-version 1.34 - message.el version 1.169 (from the emacs cvs checkout above) Thanks for the example - I didn't realize that some src modes didn't trigger the problem. Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Buffer *temp* modified; kill anyway?
On Wed Mar 04 2009 at 16:26, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote: Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote: Bill White bi...@wolfram.com wrote: On Wed Mar 04 2009 at 12:38, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote: Bill White bi...@wolfram.com wrote: Hi all - Buffer *temp* modified; kill anyway? is driving me nuts. Has anyone seen this error message when html-exporting pages that contain #+begin_src ? I get this once for every #+begin_src ... #+end_src group on a page. I assume it's coming from htmlize.el, but I haven't been able to isolate the problem with edebug. I'm using the latest htmlize.el from http://fly.srk.fer.hr/~hniksic/emacs/htmlize.el Any ideas what's going on and how to silence it? If it weren't for this I'd be able to publish without babysitting the process through source-heavy files. Bill, So I don't understand the difference in behavior between the two cases, but maybe this provides enough detail for a better elisper than me to understand and explain to the rest of us. OK - I think I know why: the mode of the temp buffer is set according to the language in the begin_src construct: emacs-lisp-mode in one case, message-mode (and a bunch of minor modes) in the other. The difference is that the latter associates the buffer with a file, whereas the former does not. It's that difference that makes kill-buffer behave differently. I suspect that the thing to do is to mark the buffer unmodified. Here's a patch: That did it - what a relief! Your elisp skills are pretty sharp. I was looking in entirely the wrong place to solve this. Many thanks! bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] html export: row/column dividers in tables
I recently found a need for visible dividers (or rules) between the rows and columns of an org table exported to html. The most recent discussion of this that I could find on gmane was http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/1709/match=table+rules+html from 2007, which concluded that such rules weren't supported, so here's a kludgey workaround I found today: #+BEGIN_HTML pre |+++| | a0 | b0 | c0 | d0 | |+++| | a1 | b1 | c1 | d1 | |+++| | a2 | b2 | c2 | d2 | |+++| /pre #+END_HTML It isn't pretty, but it works when you really need visual separation of rows and columns. Here's what it looks like in real life: http://members.wolfram.com/billw/VerbatimTables.html BTW, here's how I got the org-mode code sample onto the webpage: #+begin_src org #+BEGIN_HTML pre |+++| | a0 | b0 | c0 | d0 | |+++| | a1 | b1 | c1 | d1 | |+++| | a2 | b2 | c2 | d2 | |+++| /pre #+END_HTML #+end_src Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] html export of things that look like numbered lists
How would you code a .org file to produce this sort of html page, which contains items that look like numbered list elements? http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch2s1.html In that page, a number at the beginning of a line indicates a paragraph in the original work, so the exported html page needs to respect those numbers. Currently, org seems to assume that these are elements of a numbered list, and renumbers the lines sequentially starting at 1. Thanks - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] html export of things that look like numbered lists
On Sat May 23 2009 at 14:30, Bill White bi...@wolfram.com wrote: How would you code a .org file to produce this sort of html page, which contains items that look like numbered list elements? http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch2s1.html In that page, a number at the beginning of a line indicates a paragraph in the original work, so the exported html page needs to respect those numbers. Currently, org seems to assume that these are elements of a numbered list, and renumbers the lines sequentially starting at 1. Here's one solution: write the paragraph numbers as =4.=, =5.=, etc. Cheers - bw, who sometimes has to ask the question in order to answer it -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] html export of src: extra newlines
Org seems to insert extra newlines when exporting src to html. You can
see the output at http://members.wolfram.com/billw/RomanCalendar.html
(search for gregorianFromAbsolute) - there's a large amount of vertical
space between the two function definitions.
Is there some way to avoid exporting all those newlines?
- GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.16.1) of
2009-05-28 on billw-desktop
- Org-mode version 6.27trans
Here's the relevant part of my .org file:
,
| #+begin_src mma
| absoluteFromGregorian[{year_Integer, month_Integer, day_Integer}] :=
| DateDifference[epoch, {year, month, day}]
|
| gregorianFromAbsolute[abs_Integer] :=
| DatePlus[epoch, abs]
| #+end_src
`
I export the whole project via 'C-c C-e P' - here's the generated html:
,
| pre class=src src-mma
| span style=color: #ff;absoluteFromGregorian/span[{year_Integer,
month_Integer, day_Integer}] :=
| DateDifference[epoch, {year, month, day}]
|
|
|
| span style=color: #ff;gregorianFromAbsolute/span[abs_Integer] :=
| DatePlus[epoch, abs]
| /pre
`
Here's the relevant part of org-publish-project-alist:
,
| ;;
| (members.wolfram.com-org-notes
| :base-directory ~/org/members.wolfram.com
| :base-extension org
| :publishing-directory ~/org/000-published/members.wolfram.com/
| :recursive t
| :publishing-function org-publish-org-to-html
| :headline-levels 4 ; Just the default for this project.
| :auto-preamble t
| )
| (members.wolfram.com-org-static
| :base-directory ~/org/members.wolfram.com
| :base-extension css\\|js\\|png\\|jpg\\|gif\\|pdf\\|mp3\\|ogg\\|swf
| :publishing-directory ~/org/000-published/members.wolfram.com/
| :recursive t
| :publishing-function org-publish-attachment)
| (members.wolfram.com :components (members.wolfram.com-org-notes
members.wolfram.com-org-static))
| ;;
`
Thanks!
bw
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Re: [Orgmode] html export of src: extra newlines
On Tue Jul 14 2009 at 13:24, Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk wrote: Bill White bi...@wolfram.com writes: Org seems to insert extra newlines when exporting src to html. You can see the output at http://members.wolfram.com/billw/RomanCalendar.html (search for gregorianFromAbsolute) - there's a large amount of vertical space between the two function definitions. Argh! I just now updated my org-mode and emacs, and all is well - whatever caused the problem, it's gone now: http://members.wolfram.com/billw/RomanCalendar.html Next time, I'll be sure to try the latest version first. Thanks for taking a look - bw replicate this (org and html below). Maybe it would be revealing to try exporting the org buffer directly using C-c C-e h (org-export-as-html), and seeing if the problem occurs then with your setup? Dan Details --- I downloaded mma-mode just now from http://www.itwm.fhg.de/as/asemployees/wichmann/mma.html is that the same as yours? ,[ C-h v mma-version RET ] | mma-version is a variable defined in `mma.el'. | Its value is $Revision: 1.1 $ | | Documentation: | The Revision number of mma.el. | You should add this number when reporting bugs. | | [back] ` Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [O] [WORG] How to ediff folded Org files?
On Sat Apr 06 2013 at 17:24, Michael Brand michael.ch.br...@gmail.com wrote: But instead of the above I use this for ediff generally, it persists in Org mode: You just solved the most annoying little usage problem I've had - thanks! Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com No ma'am, we're musicians.
[O] bug: /italic/ sometimes fails
- Org-mode version 8.0.1 (release_8.0.1-15-g0fff0b @ /home/billw/Dropbox/org/org-mode/lisp/) - GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.6.0) of 2013-03-11 on wri Italicization fails when a doublequote character is adjacent to a slash. This behavior is visible in an org-mode buffer, and is seen when exporting the buffer to an HTML file. These are italicized as expected: /test/ /a test/ /a test a/ But these are not italicized: /a test/ /a test/ /test/ /test/ /test/ Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com No ma'am, we're musicians.
Re: [O] bug: /italic/ sometimes fails
On Mon Apr 22 2013 at 15:29, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Hi Bill, Bill White bi...@wolfram.com writes: - Org-mode version 8.0.1 (release_8.0.1-15-g0fff0b @ /home/billw/Dropbox/org/org-mode/lisp/) - GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.6.0) of 2013-03-11 on wri Italicization fails when a doublequote character is adjacent to a slash. This is intended. You might want to have a look at the variable `org-emphasis-regexp-components'. Do carefully check the docstring of this variable C-h v org-emphasis-regexp-components RET it explains how to modify it. Well heck, that variable is right there in the docs and I missed it: To fine tune what characters are allowed before and after the markup characters, you can tweak ORG-EMPHASIS-REGEXP-COMPONENTS. Thank you! bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com No ma'am, we're musicians.
[O] disable tangling for an entire section?
Is there a simple way to disable tangling for an entire section's code blocks? Or to put it a different way, can tangling be toggled at the section level and not just the code-block level? I tried this: ** a section in my file :PROPERTIES: :tangle: no :END: by analogy from #+PROPERTY: tangle yes in (info (org) Header arguments in Org mode properties), but code blocks in that section were still tangled. Org-mode version 8.0.2 (release_8.0.2-61-g22dfa7 @ /home/billw/Dropbox/org/org-mode/lisp/) GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.6.0) of 2013-03-11 on wri Thanks - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com No ma'am, we're musicians.
Re: [O] disable tangling for an entire section?
On Tue May 07 2013 at 07:23, Sebastien Vauban sva-n...@mygooglest.com wrote: Christian Moe wrote: Bill White writes: Is there a simple way to disable tangling for an entire section's code blocks? Or to put it a different way, can tangling be toggled at the section level and not just the code-block level? I tried this: ** a section in my file :PROPERTIES: :tangle: no :END: by analogy from #+PROPERTY: tangle yes in (info (org) Header arguments in Org mode properties), but code blocks in that section were still tangled. That should work, I think, and it does work for me (on 8.0.1). I cannot reproduce the problem. That must work, yes. Except if you have :tangle header arguments set on sub-subtrees, or on code blocks, of course. Thank you Christian and Sebastien for your replies. I was hoping that a higher-level setting would override all tangle settings under it, no matter what they might be. This would make it possible to change an entire section's tangling without fussing with each code block's setting. For example, I had hoped that the following would disable tangling for both code blocks, but for me[1] even under 'emacs -Q' the first block is tangled: * headline :PROPERTIES: :tangle: no :END: #+begin_src perl :tangle yes 2 + 2 #+end_src #+begin_src perl :tangle no 3 + 3 #+end_src [1]: Org-mode version 8.0.2 (release_8.0.2-61-g22dfa7 @ /home/billw/Dropbox/org/org-mode/lisp/) GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.6.0) of 2013-03-11 on wri Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com No ma'am, we're musicians.
Re: [O] disable tangling for an entire section?
On Mon May 13 2013 at 03:23, rai...@krugs.de (Rainer M. Krug) wrote: Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com writes: I was hoping that a higher-level setting would override all tangle settings under it, no matter what they might be. This would make it possible to change an entire section's tangling without fussing with each code block's setting. The status quo makes more sense, I think. It allows you to easily change an entire section's tangling but make specific exceptions that override the general setting. I agree with Christian here. But you could trick org into achieving what you want, in specifying a tangle target in the PROPERTIES sectio, given that you only use :tangle yes : I wish I'd thought of that! Many thanks - bw
Re: [O] Tangle only current code block?
On Sun Oct 07 2012 at 18:39, Eric Schulte eric.schu...@gmx.com wrote: Yann Le Du yann.ledu...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I have a bunch of code chunks with stuff like fun name and headers like :tangle toto.c exporting to different files in noweb style If I use C-c C-v t, it extracts all of those code chunks nicely However, sometimes I would like to put my cursor inside one of those code chunks and then extract only that one, not the others. Is there a simple way ? Yes, run the tangle with a prefix argument to tangle only the block under your cursor e.g., C-u C-c C-v t. And you can tangle a consecutive subset of code blocks by narrowing your org buffer to only those blocks before tangling. It happens to me so often I wrote a bit of code to avoid it. From my emacs.org: #+begin_src emacs-lisp :tangle yes (defadvice org-babel-tangle (before widen-before-tangling) Widen a buffer before calling org-babel-tangle. (widen)) (ad-activate 'org-babel-tangle) #+end_src Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com No ma'am, we're musicians.
[O] navigating between non-code blocks?
Has anyone thought about setting up navigation among any old kinds of blocks, analogous to org-babel-next-src-block? I've whipped up a dynamic block that displays a file's contents: #+begin: file :file /ssh:server.example.com:/small/log/file1.txt file1 contents #+end: #+begin: file :file /ssh:anotherserver.example.com:/small/log/file2.txt file2 contents #+end: I sometimes have a lot of these in an org file and it would be handy to navigate among them easily. It seems that block navigation is set up to work only with *code* blocks. Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com No ma'am, we're musicians.
Re: [O] navigating between non-code blocks?
On Fri Feb 08 2013 at 10:11, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: Hi Bill, Bill White bi...@wolfram.com writes: I sometimes have a lot of these in an org file and it would be handy to navigate among them easily. It seems that block navigation is set up to work only with *code* blocks. You now have C-c C-F (`org-next-block') C-c C-B (`org-previous-block') for navigating blocks. Thanks for the suggestion! And thanks for implementing it. One small code problem, though - I think BLOCK-REGEXP should default to org-block-regexp. Otherwise, block-regexp isn't defined and the function just goes to the next org-babel-src-block-regexp (Sorry, I don't recall offhand how to set that up in elisp.) And, echoing Sebastien, `F' and `B' as speed commands would be very handy. Thanks! bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com No ma'am, we're musicians.
Re: [Orgmode] Worldcup + time zone question
On Mon Jun 07 2010 at 14:48, Dirk-Jan C. Binnema djcb.b...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I made a little org-mode schedule for the Football World Cup in South-Africa (attached); it may be useful for some. Anyway, my question: the times are the local times in South Africa -- is there some way to have the times shown in my org-agenda automatically corrected for my local time zone? Norm Walsh's nifty wwtime.el may provide some ideas: http://nwalsh.com/emacs/wwtime/ Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Elsevier's Executable Paper Grand Challenge
In light of recent paper by Davison, Dominik, Dye and Schulte, this sounds like something org-mode could address: http://www.executablepapers.com There is a USD 1 first-place award. Executable Paper Grand Challenge is a contest created to improve the way scientific information is communicated and used. It asks: How can we develop a model for executable files that is compatible with the user’s operating system and architecture and adaptable to future systems? How do we manage very large file sizes? How do we validate data and code, and decrease the reviewer’s workload? How to support registering and tracking of actions taken on the ‘executable paper?’ The purpose of the Executable Paper Challenge is to invite scientists to put forth their ideas pertaining to these pressing and unsolved questions. See http://www.executablepapers.com for more information, deadlines, etc. Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw No ma'am, we're musicians. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[O] orgmode as a transcription tool?
Today I was looking for a tool to ease my transcription of a recording of a half-hour appointment with a doctor. Googling led to https://transcribe.wreally.com/ for the job - it really works well, and it seems like something orgmode should be able to do. The idea is to unite a media player with a text-editing window. Certain commands issued *while in the text window* will operate on the media player: pause, go back or ahead 2 seconds, slow down, speed up, etc. Uniting the two eliminates constant switching between a media player and a text editor - it's all integrated and controllable without switching windows. From https://transcribe.wreally.com/guide/how-to-transcribe-audio-interviews-faster/ The advantage of using Transcribe over a conventional text editor + media player approach is that you don’t have to lift your hands-off the keyboard at all. You can control the audio with your keyboard while simultaneously typing into the built-in text editor. Could orgmode do something like that? Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com No ma'am, we're musicians.
Re: [O] html export using html5 elements and bootstrap framework
On Fri Jan 02 2015 at 09:47, R C re...@yahoo.com wrote: I would like to have org mode export a project using html5 elements and bootstrap framework adapting the worg tutorial: org-publish-html-tutorial.html I set it up as: - minimal org file to be published: ~/web/p2/org/tst.org I think this isn't quite what you need to export a single file, but o-blog by Sébastien Gross functions as an org-mode frontend for bootstrap: https://github.com/renard/o-blog Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com No ma'am, we're musicians.
Re: [O] orgmode as a transcription tool?
On Sat Feb 07 2015 at 10:38, Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl wrote: On 2015-02-03, at 06:45, Basile (The Flammable Project) flammable.proj...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, You should have a look at EMMS. It's suite easy to setup on linux. But if you are using a MS Windows OS, it does requiert more settings. But everything you light ne controlable within Emacs. FWIW, here's my config (and two helper functions to make seeking a bit easier): http://mbork.pl/2015-02-07_Emms_and_transcripts This is great - many thanks! I'm using it now, taking a break during crosstalk in a recorded meeting. I, too, had problems with skipping backwards - your solution worked for me. And the scale of the skipping is off for me, too - a setting of -10 will skip back about 2 or 3 seconds. I'm doing this on osx with homebrew's build of head-branch emacs and the homebrew mplayer, and it works amazingly well. Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com No, ma'am, we're musicians.
Re: [O] Org-Mode and Mac OS X advice
On Thu Mar 26 2015 at 08:18, Chris Willard ch...@meliser.co.uk wrote: Hello All, I am thinking about changing to a Mac from Windows and wanted to check that there are no issues with using org-mode in OS X. I would like to know what version of Emacs people use (e.g. Aquamacs) and also if there are any issues using org-mode on a Mac. For example, I export to PDF frequently so would like to know if I need any other software for this. I do this to get emacs on my macbook pro: ,[ emacs-install ] | #!/usr/local/bin/bash | brew update | brew unlink emacs | brew uninstall emacs | brew install emacs --HEAD --use-git-head --cocoa --with-gnutls --with-rsvg --with-imagemagick | brew linkapps ` I don't think I've had any mac-specific problems with orgmode - I use it every day. And as others have said, mactex is very nice: https://tug.org/mactex/ Cheers - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com No ma'am, we're musicians.
Re: [O] speed keys for plain lists?
On Mon May 16 2016 at 13:17, Grant Rettke <g...@wisdomandwonder.com> wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Bill White <bi...@wolfram.com> wrote: >> But I'm open to suggestions & discussion - now's the time to play around >> with formats to find the right balance between playing with words and >> slogging through markup. Perhaps this isn't the right mailing list for >> that discussion, though. > > If it isn't then please post the name of that list when you find it. I'm happy to post here, especially since I can't see moving this project out of orgmode. > I started out using only lists too because they are exactly as you > describe them. > > Eventually I wanted to attach metadata to the lists, and now I love > headings. Could you post an example? Here's a sample of my second iteration. A poor man's database - still pure orgmode and still plain text, but easily parsable: - main word|subordinate word, subdivided into grammatical relations A, B, C, - identification - main form :: Abbacy - obsolete † :: no - non-naturalized ‖ :: no - pronunciation :: æ•băsi - part of speech :: substantive - specification :: none - status :: default - spellings :: 5-6 abbasy, 6-7 abbacie - inflections :: none - [morphology] - derivation (etymology) :: A modification of the earlier ABBATIE, assimilated to forms like prelacy, mediaeval Latin -acia, -atia. - subsequent form-history :: - miscellaneous facts :: - TODO: significations & illustrative quotations > "Created, developed, and nurtured by Eric Weisstein at Wolfram > Research" [http://mathworld.wolfram.com/] > > Org-Mode makes it easy to do that with whatever document you are > nurturing. That describes most of my uses of orgmode - thanks! bw -- http://members.wolfram.com/billw
Re: [O] speed keys for plain lists?
On Tue May 10 2016 at 03:21, Karl Voit <devn...@karl-voit.at> wrote: > * Bill White <bi...@wolfram.com> wrote: >> >> Thank you all for the suggestions thus far. I'll attach the org file >> I'm working with: > > Being curious on your motivation: why do you use only plain list items > instead of headings with paragraphs or headings with plain lists? Mainly because I'm still playing around with possible formats. Some manual correction of the ocr text is required for each entry, which provides a frictionless opportunity to add a little bit of list markup and then get on with the next entry. My final goal is a simple electronic version of the old Oxford English Dictionary as outlined by Corey Doctorow http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/23/oxford-english-dictionary-future-digitally based on files at the Internet Archive - volume 1 is at https://archive.org/details/oed01arch I'd like the thing to be as close to plaintext as possible with a minimum of markup: - org list notation is minimal - it's useful within orgmode - it doesn't get in the user's way in non-emacs ecosystems - it avoids the endless quagmire of adding significant markup to such a huge body of text - it's a necessary first step for some other brave soul who wants to add markup & organization But I'm open to suggestions & discussion - now's the time to play around with formats to find the right balance between playing with words and slogging through markup. Perhaps this isn't the right mailing list for that discussion, though. Cheers - bw Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com "No ma'am, we're musicians."
[O] speed keys for plain lists?
I'm working on a project that uses deeply-nested plain lists, and I'm finding navigation to be a chore. Is there a way to enable speed keys (info "(org) Speed keys") for navigation of plain lists? Thanks - bw -- Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com "No ma'am, we're musicians."
Re: [O] speed keys for plain lists?
On Mon May 09 2016 at 06:30, Bill White <bi...@wolfram.com> wrote:
> I'm working on a project that uses deeply-nested plain lists, and I'm
> finding navigation to be a chore. Is there a way to enable speed keys
> (info "(org) Speed keys") for navigation of plain lists?
Following the ancient tradition of stumbling upon an answer ten minutes
after asking the question... I just found that org-forward-element and
org-backward-element will do the job, and they work fairly intelligently
with org-beginning-of-line.
Now if only one could bind these to more-convenient keys than M-{ and
M-} when in a plain list.
Cheers -
bw
Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com
"No ma'am, we're musicians."
Re: [O] speed keys for plain lists?
llings a week for the future. - c. absol. To make an abatement. - 1530 Palsgr. 420 :: I alowe or abate upon a reckenyng or accompte made. - 1745 De Foe: Eng. Tradesm. I. xix. 179 :: He cannot abate without underselling the market, or underrating the value of his goods. - 1817 Jas. Mill: Brit. India II. IV. iv. 134 :: Lacey offered to abate in his pecuniary demand. - 16. fig. To omit, leave out of count; to bar or except. - 1588 Shakespeare:: L. L. L. v. ii. 547 :: Abate [a] throw at Novum, and the whole world againe, Cannot pricke out five such. - 1700 Law: Council of Trade 253 (1751) :: Abating accidents which happen but seldom. - 1772 Johnson in Boswell (1816) II. 149 :: Abating his brutality, he was a very good master. - 1865 Sala: Diary in America I. 307 :: Abating the gold and silver plate. - 17. To abate of (a thing): to deduct something from, make an abatement from; to lower, or lessen in amount. arch. - 1644 Bulwer: Chirologia 144 :: It falls short and abates of the perfection of the thing. - 1645 Bp. Hall: Remedy of Discontent. 27 :: Their fading condition justly abates of their value. - 1653 Izaak Walton: Compl. Angler 2 :: [I shall] either abate of my pace, or mend it, to enjoy such a companion. - 1765 Tucker Lt. of Nat. II. 635 :: Their own experience and the world they converse with will abate of this excess. - 1810 Scott: Lady of Lake V. iii. 22 :: The guide abating of his pace Led slowly through the pass’s jaws. - V. Technical. - † 18. Falconry. To beat with the wings, flutter. More commonly aphetized to BATE. Obs. - c 1430 Bk. of Hawkyng in Ret. Antiq. I. 297 :: If that she [the hawk] abate, let her flee, but be war that thou constreyne her not to flee. - 1575 Turberville: Booke of Falc. 135 :: You shall keepe hir alwayes in best plighte and leaste daunger to abate. - † 19. In Horsemanship. ‘A Horse is said to Abate, when working upon Curvets, he puts his two hind Legs to the Ground, both at once, and observes the same Exactness at all Times.’ Bailey 1721; whence in J. and subseq. Dicts. Obs. I'm hoping for something that works the way heading navigation works with speed keys, since n, p, and u in that context are burned into my synapses: ctrl-a out to the heading markup then n, p, or u, as needed to go to the same relative place among the markup in the target line. Perhaps endlessparentheses' context-aware method could be adapted to use org-list.el's various org-at-x-p and org-in-x-p functions. I just need to find a block of time to think clearly :-/ Cheers - bw Bill White . bi...@wolfram.com "No ma'am, we're musicians."
clocktable: link to :ID: rather than header text?
I'm generating clocktables with :link t, and after changing the text of a target heading I found that links in clocktables point to the header text and not its :ID: Is it possible for clocktable links to use the target heading's :ID: rather than its text, which I may need to change? Thanks - bw -- "No, ma'am, we're musicians."
block-like markup to export custom html?
I'm using https://github.com/bastibe/org-static-blog to generate http://members.wolfram.com/billw See especially http://members.wolfram.com/billw/2021-07-05-romanovsky-on-bronstein.html I have an org file full of these things to denote side-by-side columns of English and Russian text: @@html:@@ Some English text. @@html:@@ Some Russian text. @@html:@@ ===> My question: is there a notion of a custom block-like structure that, upon export to html (or whatever backend org-static-blog uses), would insert the inlined html code shown above? I'm imagining something like: #+begin_multicol Some English text. #+break: Some Russian text #+end_multicol to produce this upon export: Some English text. Some Russian text. Background: I'm learning Russian and re-learning chess, and one day I realized I could translate articles from old Russian chess magazines. Thanks! bw -- "No, ma'am, we're musicians."
can clocktable link to IDs?
When I create a clocktable, its entries are links to heading text: [ [file:/path/to/meetings.org::*featureset meeting][featureset meeting] ] But in my meetings.org file there are dozens of headings that simply read: ``` * featureset meeting ``` so all clocktable links to these meetings point to the first instance in my meetings.org. However, when I run org-store-link with point on a particular heading I'm interested in, I get a link to a unique ID: [ [id:29FDF5EE-BD50-491F-9332-B007F8CE5CE9][featureset meeting] ] Is there a way to convince the clocktable mechanism to link to a unique ID (when it exists) rather than a possibly non-unique heading? Thanks - bw "No, ma'am, we're musicians."
