Re: [EVDL] 2013-2015 Nissan Leaf recalled for braking problem, 46, 000 vehicles affected
Check your VIN against the recall checker. If it shows up, you get the repair for free. If it doesn't show up, either the repair was already done, or your vehicle is not affected. Jay On 3/8/22 18:24, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: Mark, That is absolute bollocks. As far as I know: *Recalls* never time out, they are mandatory, enforced by external entities, so it is grounds for a complaint against the manufacturer. I have similar experience - dealers often have no clue what they are required to do, so they try to bluff you out of it. I had to go through several rounds of that kind of noise before I received the service that I *knew* that I was entitled to and finally when I kept stubbornly refuting their crazy claims and steadily mentioning that I was due my free replacement, that they finally relented but it took several weeks and rounds before it was done and indeed, for free. Since you already paid, you can take different steps, up to you how nasty you want to be - either just "give me back my money" up to suing them (after verifying that the recall is indeed without deadline as I suspect). Good luck. Cor. On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 12:55 PM Mark Hanson via EV wrote: Hi Folks I just got back from Team Nissan dealer Roanoke VA and they said the Recall on my 2013 was too old to be included and did a $250 evaluation and said that since my vehicle sat for 3 months while on vacation , that it caused the problem due to low battery and not the software. The service department claimed that I already had the latest brake software installed. (Guess it was installed by aliens). I’ll have to wait till next winter (with a new battery) and see if it occurs again. Sounds like nonsense to me, has anyone heard that a low 12V auxiliary battery can cause brake problems in the winter? https://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1102850_2013-2015-nissan-leaf-recalled-for-braking-problem-46000-vehicles-affected Best regards Mark Sent from my iPhone ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
Re: [EVDL] 2013-2015 Nissan Leaf recalled for braking problem, 46, 000 vehicles affected
I'm pretty sure that Cor is right; safety recalls don't expire, although I've read that the manufacturer can challenge the requirement if the vehicle is more than 15 years old. Do I recall right that your Leaf's VIN was NOT listed as one to which that recall applied? If that's true, then you probably don't officially get a free fix for this. Have you tried calling Nissan customer service? If you do a little sweet- talking, they might agree to arrange a free or reduced-cost repair for the sake of goodwill and your continued business. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = The problem with the future is that it keeps turning into the present. -- Bill Watterson, "Calvin and Hobbes" = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX
For what it is worth: I have a 2013 Leaf (not the best aerodynamics) and get consistently just below 200Wh/mi at a steady 55MPH. Have done 92 miles of freeway without running out of juice (just getting the very low battery warning before arriving) with my 24kWh pack. So the 166 number (6 mi/kWh) is not out of the question, versus my 5.1mi/kWh in the Leaf. NOTE: I keep high tire pressure of 43PSI and adjusted the toe to zero, which changed efficiency from 3.8 before the changes... Cor. On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 12:47 PM EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > > On 8 Mar 2022 at 18:18, paul dove via EV wrote: > > > 166wh sounds like hype > > That kind of efficiency is quite possible for a fairly light conventional > vehicle at low to moderate speeds. Solectria Forces managed about 150 wh/mi > in 35-45mph suburban driving. But those were simple cars. When you start > adding weight (such as from extensive soundproofing), aircon, and lots of > energy-hungry gadgets, it's tougher to manage. Those energy hogs are what > buyers expect in expensive luxury cars. > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Blockchain is an elaborate workaround for a very specific problem: > verifying irreversible transfers of value without a centralized > authority. In other words, itGÇÖs a computationally burdensome way to > hate the government. > > -- Sarah Jeong > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > ___ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
Re: [EVDL] 2013-2015 Nissan Leaf recalled for braking problem, 46, 000 vehicles affected
Mark, That is absolute bollocks. As far as I know: *Recalls* never time out, they are mandatory, enforced by external entities, so it is grounds for a complaint against the manufacturer. I have similar experience - dealers often have no clue what they are required to do, so they try to bluff you out of it. I had to go through several rounds of that kind of noise before I received the service that I *knew* that I was entitled to and finally when I kept stubbornly refuting their crazy claims and steadily mentioning that I was due my free replacement, that they finally relented but it took several weeks and rounds before it was done and indeed, for free. Since you already paid, you can take different steps, up to you how nasty you want to be - either just "give me back my money" up to suing them (after verifying that the recall is indeed without deadline as I suspect). Good luck. Cor. On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 12:55 PM Mark Hanson via EV wrote: > > Hi Folks > I just got back from Team Nissan dealer Roanoke VA and they said the Recall > on my 2013 was too old to be included and did a $250 evaluation and said that > since my vehicle sat for 3 months while on vacation , that it caused the > problem due to low battery and not the software. The service department > claimed that I already had the latest brake software installed. (Guess it > was installed by aliens). I’ll have to wait till next winter (with a new > battery) and see if it occurs again. Sounds like nonsense to me, has anyone > heard that a low 12V auxiliary battery can cause brake problems in the winter? > https://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1102850_2013-2015-nissan-leaf-recalled-for-braking-problem-46000-vehicles-affected > Best regards > Mark > > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
[EVDL] 2013-2015 Nissan Leaf recalled for braking problem, 46, 000 vehicles affected
Hi Folks I just got back from Team Nissan dealer Roanoke VA and they said the Recall on my 2013 was too old to be included and did a $250 evaluation and said that since my vehicle sat for 3 months while on vacation , that it caused the problem due to low battery and not the software. The service department claimed that I already had the latest brake software installed. (Guess it was installed by aliens). I’ll have to wait till next winter (with a new battery) and see if it occurs again. Sounds like nonsense to me, has anyone heard that a low 12V auxiliary battery can cause brake problems in the winter? https://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1102850_2013-2015-nissan-leaf-recalled-for-braking-problem-46000-vehicles-affected Best regards Mark Sent from my iPhone ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX
On 8 Mar 2022 at 18:18, paul dove via EV wrote: > 166wh sounds like hype That kind of efficiency is quite possible for a fairly light conventional vehicle at low to moderate speeds. Solectria Forces managed about 150 wh/mi in 35-45mph suburban driving. But those were simple cars. When you start adding weight (such as from extensive soundproofing), aircon, and lots of energy-hungry gadgets, it's tougher to manage. Those energy hogs are what buyers expect in expensive luxury cars. David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Blockchain is an elaborate workaround for a very specific problem: verifying irreversible transfers of value without a centralized authority. In other words, itGÇÖs a computationally burdensome way to hate the government. -- Sarah Jeong = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX
Yes, my comment is they won’t be able to produce a car like that. No way! Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 10:20 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Oh, I completely agree there are problems getting to production. Mercedes certainly has the means to do so, but we can't predict what they will decide. I'm just reacting to and strongly disagree with your comment that 166wh sounds like hype. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "paul dove" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Peri Hartman" Sent: 08-Mar-22 07:59:27 Subject: Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX >Tesla built a Cybertruck too. You might notice all the issues getting >into production. > > >Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone ><https://more.att.com/currently/imap> > >On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 9:05 AM, Peri Hartman via EV > wrote: > >>With that Cd ? 166wh seems reasonable. They did build the concept >>vehicle, after all. >> >><< Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> >> >>-- Original Message -- >>From: "paul dove" >>To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion >>List" >>Cc: "Peri Hartman" >>Sent: 08-Mar-22 04:27:19 >>Subject: Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX >> >> >Sounds like hype to me. 166wh per mile! >> > >> >A Mercedes electric would be cool but these are pipe dreams for a >> >production vehicle >> > >> > >> >Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone >> ><https://more.att.com/currently/imap> >> > >> >On Monday, March 7, 2022, 10:43 PM, Peri Hartman via EV >> > wrote: >> > >> >>The Mercedes EQXX concept seems like a truly stellar car, which they >> >>classify as "production-intent". Although, it probably will cost a >> >>fortune. >> >> >> >>2022 Mercedes EQXX previews a future four-door limousine [Update] >> >>https://topelectricsuv.com/news/mercedes-benz/mercedes-750-mile-ev-range-tesla-rival/ >> >> >> >>The Mercedes EQXX concept is by far the sleekest four-door >> >>Mercedes-Benz >> >>model. ... >> >>The ultra-sleek exterior leads to an extremely low drag coefficient >>of >> >>0.17 Cd, making the Vision EQXX the most aerodynamically efficient >> >>Mercedes-Benz built. ... >> >>The Tesla Model 3 has a Cd of 0.23, which commanded praise in 2018. >> >>Porsche one-upped Tesla with its Taycan electric with a Cd of just >> >>0.22. >> >>In 2021, the Lucid Air with 0.21 Cd and Mercedes EQS with 0.20 Cd >>made >> >>the competition quite intense among the aerodynamicists. >> >> >> >>The car has a 920-volt battery pack with an energy storage capacity >>of >> >>almost 100 kWh (net), and yet, it weighs just about 1,750 kg or >>3,858 >> >>lbs (gross). The battery pack occupies 50% less volume and is 30% >> >>lighter than that of the EQS. The concept EV offers a range of more >> >>than >> >>1,000 km (621 miles). >> >>... >> >>Daimler says that the higher silicon content and advanced >>composition >> >>of >> >>the anodes allow them to hold significantly more energy compared to >> >>other anodes. >> >>... >> >>The Vision EQXX features 117 solar cells on the roof that can add up >> >>to >> >>25 km (16 miles) to the driving range. A separate LFP battery pack >> >>stores solar energy, which can power the lights, the infotainment >> >>system, a climate blower, and other ancillaries. >> >>... >> >>Daimler says that the Vision EQXX consumes less than 10 kWh/100 km >>(>6 >> >>miles/kWh), which is equivalent to a 1L/100 km (235 mpg U.S. or 282 >> >>mpg >> >>UK) fuel consumption rating for an ICE car. >> >>... >> >>The battery pack and motor work in sync to such an extent that 95% >>of >> >>the stored energy ends up at the wheels. >> >> >> >>- >> >> >> >>Peri >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >><< Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> >> >> >> >>___
Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX
Sounds like hype to me. 166wh per mile! A Mercedes electric would be cool but these are pipe dreams for a production vehicle Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, March 7, 2022, 10:43 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: The Mercedes EQXX concept seems like a truly stellar car, which they classify as "production-intent". Although, it probably will cost a fortune. 2022 Mercedes EQXX previews a future four-door limousine [Update] https://topelectricsuv.com/news/mercedes-benz/mercedes-750-mile-ev-range-tesla-rival/ The Mercedes EQXX concept is by far the sleekest four-door Mercedes-Benz model. ... The ultra-sleek exterior leads to an extremely low drag coefficient of 0.17 Cd, making the Vision EQXX the most aerodynamically efficient Mercedes-Benz built. ... The Tesla Model 3 has a Cd of 0.23, which commanded praise in 2018. Porsche one-upped Tesla with its Taycan electric with a Cd of just 0.22. In 2021, the Lucid Air with 0.21 Cd and Mercedes EQS with 0.20 Cd made the competition quite intense among the aerodynamicists. The car has a 920-volt battery pack with an energy storage capacity of almost 100 kWh (net), and yet, it weighs just about 1,750 kg or 3,858 lbs (gross). The battery pack occupies 50% less volume and is 30% lighter than that of the EQS. The concept EV offers a range of more than 1,000 km (621 miles). ... Daimler says that the higher silicon content and advanced composition of the anodes allow them to hold significantly more energy compared to other anodes. ... The Vision EQXX features 117 solar cells on the roof that can add up to 25 km (16 miles) to the driving range. A separate LFP battery pack stores solar energy, which can power the lights, the infotainment system, a climate blower, and other ancillaries. ... Daimler says that the Vision EQXX consumes less than 10 kWh/100 km (>6 miles/kWh), which is equivalent to a 1L/100 km (235 mpg U.S. or 282 mpg UK) fuel consumption rating for an ICE car. ... The battery pack and motor work in sync to such an extent that 95% of the stored energy ends up at the wheels. - Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220308/2145e3da/attachment.html> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX
Tesla built a Cybertruck too. You might notice all the issues getting into production. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 9:05 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: With that Cd ? 166wh seems reasonable. They did build the concept vehicle, after all. << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "paul dove" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Peri Hartman" Sent: 08-Mar-22 04:27:19 Subject: Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX >Sounds like hype to me. 166wh per mile! > >A Mercedes electric would be cool but these are pipe dreams for a >production vehicle > > >Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone ><https://more.att.com/currently/imap> > >On Monday, March 7, 2022, 10:43 PM, Peri Hartman via EV > wrote: > >>The Mercedes EQXX concept seems like a truly stellar car, which they >>classify as "production-intent". Although, it probably will cost a >>fortune. >> >>2022 Mercedes EQXX previews a future four-door limousine [Update] >>https://topelectricsuv.com/news/mercedes-benz/mercedes-750-mile-ev-range-tesla-rival/ >> >>The Mercedes EQXX concept is by far the sleekest four-door >>Mercedes-Benz >>model. ... >>The ultra-sleek exterior leads to an extremely low drag coefficient of >>0.17 Cd, making the Vision EQXX the most aerodynamically efficient >>Mercedes-Benz built. ... >>The Tesla Model 3 has a Cd of 0.23, which commanded praise in 2018. >>Porsche one-upped Tesla with its Taycan electric with a Cd of just >>0.22. >>In 2021, the Lucid Air with 0.21 Cd and Mercedes EQS with 0.20 Cd made >>the competition quite intense among the aerodynamicists. >> >>The car has a 920-volt battery pack with an energy storage capacity of >>almost 100 kWh (net), and yet, it weighs just about 1,750 kg or 3,858 >>lbs (gross). The battery pack occupies 50% less volume and is 30% >>lighter than that of the EQS. The concept EV offers a range of more >>than >>1,000 km (621 miles). >>... >>Daimler says that the higher silicon content and advanced composition >>of >>the anodes allow them to hold significantly more energy compared to >>other anodes. >>... >>The Vision EQXX features 117 solar cells on the roof that can add up >>to >>25 km (16 miles) to the driving range. A separate LFP battery pack >>stores solar energy, which can power the lights, the infotainment >>system, a climate blower, and other ancillaries. >>... >>Daimler says that the Vision EQXX consumes less than 10 kWh/100 km (>6 >>miles/kWh), which is equivalent to a 1L/100 km (235 mpg U.S. or 282 >>mpg >>UK) fuel consumption rating for an ICE car. >>... >>The battery pack and motor work in sync to such an extent that 95% of >>the stored energy ends up at the wheels. >> >>- >> >>Peri >> >> >> >> >><< Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> >> >>___ >>Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org >>No other addresses in TO and CC fields >>UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ >>LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220308/8793049f/attachment.html> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220308/22559614/attachment.html> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX
Oh, I completely agree there are problems getting to production. Mercedes certainly has the means to do so, but we can't predict what they will decide. I'm just reacting to and strongly disagree with your comment that 166wh sounds like hype. Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "paul dove" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Peri Hartman" Sent: 08-Mar-22 07:59:27 Subject: Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX Tesla built a Cybertruck too. You might notice all the issues getting into production. Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://more.att.com/currently/imap> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 9:05 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: With that Cd ? 166wh seems reasonable. They did build the concept vehicle, after all. << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "paul dove" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Peri Hartman" Sent: 08-Mar-22 04:27:19 Subject: Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX >Sounds like hype to me. 166wh per mile! > >A Mercedes electric would be cool but these are pipe dreams for a >production vehicle > > >Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone ><https://more.att.com/currently/imap> > >On Monday, March 7, 2022, 10:43 PM, Peri Hartman via EV > wrote: > >>The Mercedes EQXX concept seems like a truly stellar car, which they >>classify as "production-intent". Although, it probably will cost a >>fortune. >> >>2022 Mercedes EQXX previews a future four-door limousine [Update] >>https://topelectricsuv.com/news/mercedes-benz/mercedes-750-mile-ev-range-tesla-rival/ >> >>The Mercedes EQXX concept is by far the sleekest four-door >>Mercedes-Benz >>model. ... >>The ultra-sleek exterior leads to an extremely low drag coefficient of >>0.17 Cd, making the Vision EQXX the most aerodynamically efficient >>Mercedes-Benz built. ... >>The Tesla Model 3 has a Cd of 0.23, which commanded praise in 2018. >>Porsche one-upped Tesla with its Taycan electric with a Cd of just >>0.22. >>In 2021, the Lucid Air with 0.21 Cd and Mercedes EQS with 0.20 Cd made >>the competition quite intense among the aerodynamicists. >> >>The car has a 920-volt battery pack with an energy storage capacity of >>almost 100 kWh (net), and yet, it weighs just about 1,750 kg or 3,858 >>lbs (gross). The battery pack occupies 50% less volume and is 30% >>lighter than that of the EQS. The concept EV offers a range of more >>than >>1,000 km (621 miles). >>... >>Daimler says that the higher silicon content and advanced composition >>of >>the anodes allow them to hold significantly more energy compared to >>other anodes. >>... >>The Vision EQXX features 117 solar cells on the roof that can add up >>to >>25 km (16 miles) to the driving range. A separate LFP battery pack >>stores solar energy, which can power the lights, the infotainment >>system, a climate blower, and other ancillaries. >>... >>Daimler says that the Vision EQXX consumes less than 10 kWh/100 km (>6 >>miles/kWh), which is equivalent to a 1L/100 km (235 mpg U.S. or 282 >>mpg >>UK) fuel consumption rating for an ICE car. >>... >>The battery pack and motor work in sync to such an extent that 95% of >>the stored energy ends up at the wheels. >> >>- >> >>Peri >> >> >> >> >><< Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> >> >>___ >>Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org >>No other addresses in TO and CC fields >>UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ >>LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220308/8793049f/attachment.html> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220308/001655e8/attachment.html> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX
With that Cd ? 166wh seems reasonable. They did build the concept vehicle, after all. << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "paul dove" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Peri Hartman" Sent: 08-Mar-22 04:27:19 Subject: Re: [EVDL] mercedes "launcept" EQXX Sounds like hype to me. 166wh per mile! A Mercedes electric would be cool but these are pipe dreams for a production vehicle Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://more.att.com/currently/imap> On Monday, March 7, 2022, 10:43 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: The Mercedes EQXX concept seems like a truly stellar car, which they classify as "production-intent". Although, it probably will cost a fortune. 2022 Mercedes EQXX previews a future four-door limousine [Update] https://topelectricsuv.com/news/mercedes-benz/mercedes-750-mile-ev-range-tesla-rival/ The Mercedes EQXX concept is by far the sleekest four-door Mercedes-Benz model. ... The ultra-sleek exterior leads to an extremely low drag coefficient of 0.17 Cd, making the Vision EQXX the most aerodynamically efficient Mercedes-Benz built. ... The Tesla Model 3 has a Cd of 0.23, which commanded praise in 2018. Porsche one-upped Tesla with its Taycan electric with a Cd of just 0.22. In 2021, the Lucid Air with 0.21 Cd and Mercedes EQS with 0.20 Cd made the competition quite intense among the aerodynamicists. The car has a 920-volt battery pack with an energy storage capacity of almost 100 kWh (net), and yet, it weighs just about 1,750 kg or 3,858 lbs (gross). The battery pack occupies 50% less volume and is 30% lighter than that of the EQS. The concept EV offers a range of more than 1,000 km (621 miles). ... Daimler says that the higher silicon content and advanced composition of the anodes allow them to hold significantly more energy compared to other anodes. ... The Vision EQXX features 117 solar cells on the roof that can add up to 25 km (16 miles) to the driving range. A separate LFP battery pack stores solar energy, which can power the lights, the infotainment system, a climate blower, and other ancillaries. ... Daimler says that the Vision EQXX consumes less than 10 kWh/100 km (>6 miles/kWh), which is equivalent to a 1L/100 km (235 mpg U.S. or 282 mpg UK) fuel consumption rating for an ICE car. ... The battery pack and motor work in sync to such an extent that 95% of the stored energy ends up at the wheels. - Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220308/8793049f/attachment.html> ___ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
