[Evolution] Evolution 2.12.1 not auto filtering new messages after switch to new IMAP server software
Dear List, [Apologies if this comes through twice - I was not subscribed earlier so figured my message went into a black hole somewhere] My institution recently changed the IMAP server software on its IMAP servers from Washington IMAP to Dovecot. As soon as this change was completed, Evolution stopped automatically filtering new messages arriving in my inbox into my IMAP folders. I thought this might have been a problem in an older version of Evolution (I was using Fedora 5 until recently) so I waited until Fedora 8 was released, installed that on my work machine and laptop and tested to see if a newer Evolution (2.12.1) would filter the messages. In short, the problem remains. I should add that if I select the new messages and press Ctrl-y to filter them, Evolution then filters the messages into the correct mailboxes. I have tried Thunderbird also, and it does automatically filter new messages into the correct mailboxes, so this is not some major problem with the IMAP server I connect to at UCL. I am not sure how to proceed now? Are there settings in Evolution I should try to see if that alters the current behaviour? I have tried downloading all IMAP headers to see if that was a problem, but that did not change anything. I have checked that the Apply filters to new messages in INBOX on this server option is selected - it is. As I say, this was working fine in Evolution in Fedora 5 until UCL switched to Dovecot, but the problem remains in Evolution 2.12.1 on Fedora 8. If anyone has any suggestions, I will be very pleased to hear them. All the best and thanks in advance, Gavin -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution 2.12.1 not auto filtering new messages in INBOX after switch to new IMAP server software
Dear List, My institution recently changed the IMAP server software on its IMAP servers from Washington IMAP to Dovecot. As soon as this change was completed, Evolution stopped automatically filtering new messages arriving in my inbox into my IMAP folders. I thought this might have been a problem in an older version of Evolution (I was using Fedora 5 until recently) so I waited until Fedora 8 was released, installed that on my work machine and laptop and tested to see if a newer Evolution (2.12.1) would filter the messages. In short, the problem remains. I should add that if I select the new messages and press Ctrl-y to filter them, Evolution then filters the messages into the correct mailboxes. I have tried Thunderbird also, and it does automatically filter new messages into the correct mailboxes, so this is not some major problem with the IMAP server I connect to at UCL. I am not sure how to proceed now? Are there settings in Evolution I should try to see if that alters the current behaviour? I have tried downloading all IMAP headers to see if that was a problem, but that did not change anything. I have checked that the Apply filters to new messages in INBOX on this server option is selected - it is. As I say, this was working fine in Evolution in Fedora 5 until UCL switched to Dovecot, but the problem remains in Evolution 2.12.1 on Fedora 8. If anyone has any suggestions, I will be very pleased to hear them. If you do, please CC me as I am not currently signed up to the evolution-list. All the best and thanks in advance, Gavin -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 2.12.1 not auto filtering new messages after switch to new IMAP server software
On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 20:22 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > I use Evolution (of various ages) with Dovecot without any problems at > all. OK, that is good to know Pete, thank you. > > > Virtually always such problems are to do with some other program > 'seeing' the message, but leaving it unread, before Evolution gets it. > The 'new' status of a message in IMAP is really 'has a message arrived > since the mail box was last polled' - it has nothing to do with if it > was read or not. And it is a flag sent by the server to the client - > the client can not change the flag on the server, once a message has > been seen, that's it. OK, thanks also for this description. It is strange that Evolution is affected by this problem but not the other mail clients I might use. > > Is it possible that some program somewhere (like a mail notification > applet or webmail application) is accessing the mail box? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have not added any mail notification applets to my Gnome desktop in Fedora 8, though I do get a message in the system tray/notification area about new mail when Evolution polls the IMAP server (Evolution itself is set to check every 10 minutes) - but I thought this was generated by Evolution itself using inotify - is this correct? I certainly haven't asked to an email applet to tell me new mail has arrived - but I do get a flashing letter icon in the system tray when new mail comes in, but only in Evolution. Evolution is set to not notify me when new mail arrives (in the preferences) but that seems to be related to flashing the screen or playing a beep - I can't see anything about stopping the notification in the system tray. Also, note that this also affects an older version of Evolution (on FC5) that does not notify me in the system tray area of new mail, and was working quite happily prior to UCL switching IMAP server software. I will check with our systems admins as to whether other applications on the server could be interfering? Any other suggestions? G > > P. > > > On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 17:58 +, Gavin Simpson wrote: > > Dear List, > > > > [Apologies if this comes through twice - I was not subscribed earlier so > > figured my message went into a black hole somewhere] > > > > My institution recently changed the IMAP server software on its IMAP > > servers from Washington IMAP to Dovecot. As soon as this change was > > completed, Evolution stopped automatically filtering new messages > > arriving in my inbox into my IMAP folders. > > > > I thought this might have been a problem in an older version of > > Evolution (I was using Fedora 5 until recently) so I waited until Fedora > > 8 was released, installed that on my work machine and laptop and tested > > to see if a newer Evolution (2.12.1) would filter the messages. In > > short, the problem remains. > > > > I should add that if I select the new messages and press Ctrl-y to > > filter them, Evolution then filters the messages into the correct > > mailboxes. > > > > I have tried Thunderbird also, and it does automatically filter new > > messages into the correct mailboxes, so this is not some major problem > > with the IMAP server I connect to at UCL. > > > > I am not sure how to proceed now? Are there settings in Evolution I > > should try to see if that alters the current behaviour? I have tried > > downloading all IMAP headers to see if that was a problem, but that did > > not change anything. I have checked that the Apply filters to new > > messages in INBOX on this server option is selected - it is. > > > > As I say, this was working fine in Evolution in Fedora 5 until UCL > > switched to Dovecot, but the problem remains in Evolution 2.12.1 on > > Fedora 8. > > > > If anyone has any suggestions, I will be very pleased to hear them. > > > > All the best and thanks in advance, > > > > Gavin > > > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 2.12.1 not auto filtering new messages after switch to new IMAP server software
On Sat, 2007-12-08 at 10:27 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Gavin Simpson wrote: > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have not added any mail notification > > applets to my Gnome desktop in Fedora 8, though I do get a message in > > the system tray/notification area about new mail when Evolution polls > > the IMAP server (Evolution itself is set to check every 10 minutes) - > > but I thought this was generated by Evolution itself using inotify - is > > this correct? > No. Inotify allows one process to notice when some local file or files > have changed. AFAIK it has nothing to do with network protocols (even if > your "local" files are actually NFS-mounted). > > I certainly haven't asked to an email applet to tell me > > new mail has arrived - but I do get a flashing letter icon in the system > > tray when new mail comes in, but only in Evolution. Evolution is set to > > not notify me when new mail arrives (in the preferences) but that seems > > to be related to flashing the screen or playing a beep - I can't see > > anything about stopping the notification in the system tray. > > > IIRC this is controlled by a plugin (away from my machine at the moment > so I can't check) but in any case the Evo notifier shouldn't cause the > problem. OK, thanks Patrick. So that leaves something being done on the server. I'll have to take this up with our sys admins to check. All the best, G > > Also, note that this also affects an older version of Evolution (on FC5) > > that does not notify me in the system tray area of new mail, and was > > working quite happily prior to UCL switching IMAP server software. > > > > I will check with our systems admins as to whether other applications on > > the server could be interfering? > > > poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Applying filters automatically.
On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 18:03 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > Remember 'New' != 'Unread' - if something else (like a mail notifier or > another email app) is seeing the email before Evo, then it is no longer > 'New'. This is an IMAP function and nothing to do with Evo - Evo just > asks the IMAP server "What's new?" and acts on the results. OK, I'll bite ;-) Evolution seems to take an incredibly sensitive view of what is 'New'. The other mailers I have used will filter messages automatically using the IMAP server at my institution, but Evolution flatly refuses. I appreciate that Evo might be doing things properly, but if that stops it working for the user, isn't that taking it a bit far? In my case, our University computing people changed the IMAP software to Dovecot recently. They use the 'snarf' Dovecot plugin to copy the mail from the mail spool to the users IMAP INBOX when the INBOX is polled for new messages. Overnight this stopped Evo from filtering my messages automatically, but Thunderbird for example works as it did before they made this change, and continues to filter the messages automatically. G > > I see you're using a gmail address - if you are downloading your email > from google using IMAP, then I can well imagine that something in the > google system is 'seeing' your email before you do. > > P. > > > On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 09:42 -0700, Steve Karmesin wrote: > > OK, maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I think I'm following the > > directions correctly and what I want still isn't happening. Maybe > > someone here can point out the issue. I'm using Evolution 2.12.1 for > > Ubuntu 64. > > > > I get a bunch of mail that I want to process automatically. For > > example, I get e-mails informing of every checkin to our SVN > > repository, updates on our continuous integration process, and so on. > > All of these I want to go to appropriate folders with zero action from > > me. I don't even want to be told that I have mail when I get these > > things. I do this routinely with other e-mail programs. > > > > So, I set up filters to match on the appropriate conditions and send > > them to the appropriate folders. I test the filters using ^Y and yes > > they match the messages and does what I want to them. In the Account > > Editor under Receiving options I check "Apply filters to new messages > > in INBOX". > > > > And nothing happens. They still sit there, placidly filling up my > > inbox and requiring me to type ^A^Y to make them go away. > > > > Am I missing something here? What should I do to make the filters > > trigger on new mail without user intervention? > > > > -Steve > > > > ___ > > Evolution-list mailing list > > Evolution-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Applying filters automatically.
On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 09:17 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 15:36 -0700, Steve Karmesin wrote: > > > Now that I think about it, I'm not sure that this 'new' flag is > > crucial. Whatever method Evo is using to say "give me the new mail" > > is already doing a good job of getting the mail. Even if some > > notifier has tripped some flag about the mail, Evo still gets it. > > This is an excellent point. I don't have this problem so I'm not > familiar with Evo's behavior here. Are you saying that Evo marks the > messages as unread (by leaving the message summary lines bold, having > them show up as unread in the folder summary window, etc.) but does not > filter them? Yes, Paul, that is exactly the behaviour I experience. 'New' (to me) messages are retrieved from the IMAP server, but not auto filtered. They remain in my INBOX as unread messages (in bold). If I select the 'New' (to me) messages and do Ctrl-Y, Evo applies my filters, and acts accordingly. > > If so, I agree that doesn't make sense. If Evo knows enough to realize > that the messages are new and mark them as such in the message summary > window etc., then why can't it also filter those messages? It is an interesting distinction that Evo makes, and one that Pete has explained in his replies in this thread. 'Unread' is not necessarily 'New'. What should Evo do when you mark an old message, viewed already, as Unread - try to filter it again when you next open Evo or check your mail using Evo from a different machine? I can appreciate both sides here - heck I'm still using Evo as my mailer despite this issue. But from a users point of view, I can see that they don't care *why* it doesn't work, or even that Evo *is* doing the right thing, all they care about is that Evo won't filter their new messages. > > This may require some insight from the Evo developers. Yes, and hopefully some common ground can be sought that might rectify this issue. Cheers, G -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Applying filters automatically.
On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 12:40 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 17:19 -0700, Steve Karmesin wrote: > > On Feb 1, 2008 5:08 PM, Pete Biggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > BUT - I do think it needs to be sorted out - I regularly > > answer this > > same question on the list and it is clearly not intuitive to > > people. It > > may be an issue with particular IMAP clients or particular > > combinations > > of setups, but it does need to be documented. > > > > I just want to reiterate: this isn't just not intuitive, it is not > > nearly as useful to many users. Why not have the mode that mimics > > what t-bird does as an option? > > > But what *does* Thunderbird do? A few people have said that it's better > at doing it, but no one has actually enumerated the logic that it goes > through. i.e. does it only filter 'unread' or unseen to that particular > client instance or does it mark a message as having been filtered? Lets see if I can give a non-programmer's view of what tbird does ( I just installed it on my Fedora box to try with my University IMAP account). Tbird was set to check for new messages once every 10 minutes. I created a single message filter to match messages from another email list I am on. This filter was set to move any messages from this mailing list to a different folder on the IMAP server. When the 10 minutes were up tbird checked for new messages, notified me that new messages were downloaded, and then went through each new message that was downloaded and checked it against the filter. The two new messages that were from the mailing list were marked as read and marked deleted in the INBOX, the message was moved to the correct folder, where it was marked as Unread. The new messages not matching a filter, remained marked as unread in the INBOX. Tbird only filters new messages automatically - the ones it just downloaded, not others in my inbox. This is what Evo does not do. All messages are left in the INBOX regardless of filters when new messages arrive in my INBOX. So tbird does what I want and Evo doesn't in this regard. G > > P. > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Msg Selection
On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 22:44 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 21:31 -0400, Philippe LeCavalier wrote: > > If you click a folder Evo forces the auto-selection of the newest > > unread message and worked back from there. > > It's not that sophisticated. It remembers the highlighted message ID > and automatically selects that when you return to the folder. If that > message doesn't exist or isn't visible, it either selects the first in > the list or none at all, depending on the context. Is that configurable in any way? I like my newest mail to be at the end (bottom) of a list. The "jump to first in list" is mildly annoying in such circumstances, especially in folders with a lot of mail. Now I know /why/ this is happening I can try to work around it; hadn't realised that that was what was causing it. G -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Strange behaviour of Ctrl-V
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 06:46 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 20:29 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I notice that in Evo 2.30.2 if I have a URL in the clipboard (copied > > from a browser window for example) Edit->Paste (Ctrl-V) pastes the > > *contents* of the URL as an attachment. To paste the URL itself I have > > to use Edit->Paste Quotation (Shift-Ctrl-V). > > > > IIRC this is a change and I'm not sure I like it. It seems odd that the > > more usual option of pasting the URL -- which is what I want to do maybe > > 99.999% of the time -- is harder to get to. No doubt someone thought > > that pasting the attachment might be useful, but I can't actually think > > of a single reason why I would ever want to do that. I often complain to > > people who waste bandwidth sending a page when they could send a URL. > > What on Earth is the point? > > See https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551464 I'd been meaning to file a bug report about this 'new' behaviour, since experiencing it with Evolution 2.30 in Fedora 13. I just don't get why adding this feature should override the normal behaviour of pasting into a message? Ctrl-V is paste, not paste URL as an attachment. Shift-Ctrl-V is not a solution; in what sense is a URL a quote? IMHO, the new behaviour should only be triggered if the focus is on the Attachment Bar, otherwise Ctrl-V retains it's usual meaning and the clipboard contents get pasted into the message body as previous. G -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Ctrl+Page_Down and Ctrl+Page_Up change focus?
Dear List, I've noticed this new behaviour in Evolution 2.30.2 on Fedora 13; if focus is on message body/preview pane (so I can Page_Up / Page_Down through the message content) and I move to next or previous message in the current folder using Ctrl+Page_Down / Ctrl+Page_Up the focus shifts from the message pane on to the Next / Previous message in the message list. After moving to the Next / Previous message if I Page_Up / Page_Down to view the message content, I page up or down in the message list. My work desktop is still running Fedora 12 (so I presume Evolution 2.28.x, though I'm not their to check just now) and I don't notice this focus shift. Was this an intentional change for the 2.30.x branch or a bug somewhere? Many thanks, G -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Ctrl+Page_Down and Ctrl+Page_Up change focus?
On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 08:58 +0100, Gavin Simpson wrote: > Dear List, > > I've noticed this new behaviour in Evolution 2.30.2 on Fedora 13; if > focus is on message body/preview pane (so I can Page_Up / Page_Down > through the message content) and I move to next or previous message in > the current folder using Ctrl+Page_Down / Ctrl+Page_Up the focus shifts > from the message pane on to the Next / Previous message in the message > list. After moving to the Next / Previous message if I Page_Up / > Page_Down to view the message content, I page up or down in the message > list. > > My work desktop is still running Fedora 12 (so I presume Evolution > 2.28.x, though I'm not their to check just now) and I don't notice this > focus shift. > > Was this an intentional change for the 2.30.x branch or a bug somewhere? > > Many thanks, > > G As a further update; I've noticed that the same focus shift is occurring if I press the Delete key to delete the current message. The focus moves from the current message being deleted to the Next message but also shifts the focus to the message list from the message pane. I now have to click back on to the message pane every time I delete a message. As an aside; is there a keyboard shortcut that will place the focus directly on the message pane? If there is I can work round this current issue I am seeing. I suffer from RSI from time to time and prefer not to use my trackball if I can help it. Many thanks, G -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Ctrl+Page_Down and Ctrl+Page_Up change focus?
On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 14:18 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-13 at 08:58 +0100, Gavin Simpson wrote: > > Was this an intentional change for the 2.30.x branch or a bug somewhere? > > Hi, > it seems it was intentional, see: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620602 > Bye, > Milan Dear Milan, Thanks for pointing out the bug that this probably relates to. What is the correct procedure for taking another look at this? The original bug was the regression between evo versions for setting focus to message list from folder list. I don't recall Evo ever exhibiting the current behaviour I reported (always setting focus back to message list), so one might suspect that the changes made to close the bug you quote have exposed this new behaviour. Does this warrant a new bug? [I don't want to cause unnecessary bug triaging work if I blunder in and reopen a closed bug or file a new one inappropriately.] Cheers G -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Scrolling Messages - Ahhh Driving Me Crazy
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 10:12 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 20:24 -0400, Rick Bragg wrote: > > I have been using Evolution for MANY years, and I remember a time way > > back when; I would click inside an email message and hit "page up" or > > "page down" and it would scroll the message as expected. > > > > This was many years ago. I don't know what happened but for many years > > since, when I do this, it jumps to another message! > > > > This has been driving me so crazy, I need to be able to scroll inside > > long messages with the keyboard! > > > > Does anybody have a solution to this, or know why this behavior has > > changed so many years ago and was never fixed? > > Hi, > I tried to do it in 2.31.90 and it works as expected, Page Up/Down > scrolls the message preview, if it is focused. I cannot find a bug > number for it or a commit, but I recall seeing something like this. > Bye, > Milan Perhaps Rick is observing the behaviour that is driving me crazy ;-) If you set focus on the message pane and then delete the message or move to next message, the focus shifts from the message pane to the message list. When you hit page down/up then, of course the undesirable happens. I filed a comment against a bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=620602 but didn't file a new bug (should I have done?), anyway there has been no further comment there from the devs. G -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] The Unread count bug revisited
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 12:55 -0400, Ian wrote: > In my case, I have one subdirectory that shows a count of four > "unread" messages. I select one and the "unread" count goes to five. > I "read" it and it goes back to four. This is on Ubuntu 10.04. There > are no emails showing "bold". > Ideas? > ixb Same here on Fedora 13 (Evolution 2.30.2 evolution.x86_64 2.30.2-4.fc13). But selecting a message doesn't increase count. I must mark as Unread, then Mark Read several messages, as described below. I have a folder that Evo says includes 2 Unread messages. There is only 1 Unread message in this folder. The count in the folder list is 'Folder Name (2)' and the info for the selected folder reads '2 Unread, 100 total'. If I the mark 2 more messages as Unread, the folder list shows 'Folder Name (3)' and the info at the top of the folder list reads '3 unread, 100 total'. I then select 4 messages (including the two I marked as Unread in the step above, but *not* the one true Unread message in the folder from the start) and mark them as unread. The folder list now says 'Folder Name (1)' and the info at the top of the folder list reads '1 unread, 99 total'. I notice this most on folders that don't get a message filtered into very often (low volume traffic lists for example) and that I don't go into very often. I read my mail on 3 different machines (2 running Fedora 12, one with Fedora 13). Quite often I find my folders showing incorrect information of this sort. By the way, How does one get an Unread but deleted message? If I mark a message as deleted and it was Unread, it gets turned into a Read message in the message list, and the info in the folder list changes accordingly. G > On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 09:32 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Several people (including me) have complained that on occasion Evo shows > > the wrong count of Unread messages in a folder, e.g. it shows an Unread > > count of 1 when all the messages have been read. > > > > I've recently been experimenting with this, and now have a reliable way > > of 1) creating the problem, and 2) fixing it. Note that there may be > > more than one bug here (BZ has several reports and it's not clear if > > they're all talking about the same thing), so this may not work for you. > > Nevertheless, I think it's interesting. The report is at: > > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577542#c13 > > > > Briefly, you can create the problem by dragging a deleted but Unread > > message from an IMAP folder to a local one. You can fix it by marking > > one or more Read messages as Unread while watching the Unread count. As > > long as the count is inconsistent, marking messages as unread *will not > > increment it*. When the count becomes equal to the number of marked > > messages, it returns to consistency. If you then mark the messages as > > read, the count will decrement and remain consistent (until the next > > time of course :-) > > > > poc > > > > ___ > > evolution-list mailing list > > evolution-list@gnome.org > > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > ___ > evolution-list mailing list > evolution-list@gnome.org > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What happened to Evolution?
On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 12:31 -0800, Tory M Blue wrote: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Adam Tauno Williams > wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 21:04 +0100, Jean-Michel Pouré wrote: > >> Le lundi 20 décembre 2010 à 09:14 -0500, Darren Govoni a écrit : > >> > 1) I now get frequent "error storing folders", "error generating > >> > message list" > >> > 2) It's so slow. It is always "Storing folder", taking almost minutes > >> > to complete. Its on average 5-8x slower > >> > downloading, storing and viewing messages. > >> > 3) Its very buggy. When new messages arrive, they no longer show up in > >> > the folder I'm viewing. > > > You are not kidding, F12 Evolution 2.28.3 Time to upgrade then - maybe F14's evolution will give you a better experience? > Pile of crud.. I use it because I need MAPI (or prefer it I guess). > But I can't edit a distribution list without it crashing. It crashes a > few times a day when loading in large qty of mail and I select to view > or try to filter or something. Evo has worked fine on my Fedora 12 workstation in work for 12+ months. The odd crash (something I could probably count on both hands) has happened, but nothing major. I don't use MAPI, just standard IMAP to my University servers. > Email from google, comes in with unknown encoding so I have to select > view and select the encoding so I don't get the ?.. Exchange users > send calendar events and evolution says this says it's a calender > event but I don't believe it. Get an email with large amount of listed > text (directory listing of files that have not changed) and I can't > view it, evolution screen is gray. I have to have another unix user > forward that mail to me (and I receive it fine). > > So maybe evolution is puuurfect but the mapi connector hates me, I > don't know, but there are so many jokes around the office regarding my > email client and how I can't forward simple html emails without it > puking all over or that I can't edit distribution lists that I'm > responsible for. > > Sorry but it's horrible in Fedora (standard yum builds) > Tory G (A reasonably well satisfied Evolution user on Fedora 12-14.) -- %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Dr. Gavin Simpson [t] +44 (0)20 7679 0522 ECRC, UCL Geography, [f] +44 (0)20 7679 0565 Pearson Building, [e] gavin.simpsonATNOSPAMucl.ac.uk Gower Street, London [w] http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucfagls/ UK. WC1E 6BT. [w] http://www.freshwaters.org.uk %~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Unable to open address book
Dear List, I started using Linux Mint 14 after being a Fedora user for many years. I backed up my data and settings using the Backup Menu item (File > Backup Evolution Data...) on my Fedora 18 laptop and used the backup file whilst setting up Evolution on my Desktop where I installed Linux Mint 14. When switching to the Contacts view I get an error message with the following details: Unable to open address book This address book cannot be opened. Please check that the path /home/gavin/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system-address-book exists and that permissions are set to access it. Detailed error message: Cannot open book: db error 0x8703 (DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery) When restoring from the Evolution backup it created: $ ls -l ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system total 10352 -rw-r--r-- 1 gavin gavin69632 Apr 15 10:46 addressbook.db -rw-r--r-- 1 gavin gavin 5549 Dec 15 2011 addressbook.db.summary -rw-r--r-- 1 gavin gavin29696 Apr 15 10:46 contacts.db -rw-r- 1 gavin gavin 10485760 Apr 29 23:23 log.01 drwx-- 2 gavin gavin 4096 Feb 11 21:42 photos but Evolution seems to want ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system-address-book. So I shutdown Evolution, killed the address book background process and copied ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system to ~/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system-address-book and restarted my system. Unfortunately that did not solve the problem. In Linux Mint 14 I am running Evolution 3.6.2. Anyone have suggestions as to what to try next so I can fix this problem? All the best, Gavin -- Gavin Simpson, PhD [t] +1 306 337 8863 Adjunct Professor, Department of Biology[f] +1 306 337 2410 Institute of Environmental Change & Society [e] gavin.simp...@uregina.ca 523 Research and Innovation Centre [tw] @ucfagls University of Regina Regina, SK S4S 0A2, Canada ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
