OT - BES upgrade
Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions - I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066
Re: OT - BES upgrade
What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 Subject: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.
RE: OT - BES upgrade
Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 Subject: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.
Re: OT - BES upgrade
Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 Subject: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.
RE: OT - BES upgrade
Yes. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 Subject: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.
Re: OT - BES upgrade
My advice, if you don't have to, don't do both upgrades at the same time. We did. didn't have any big issues with upgrade/installations, but it's a lot to take in for a busy production environment. you won't know till you in the middle of it what issues the exchange upgrade will present, especially if you have developers trying to route stuff out through exchange. BES 5.0 is slick, but very different. Since you are not already that familiar with 4.x maybe it isn't such a deal for you. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Tammy George wrote: > Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – > > > > I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our > Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have **no** experience with BES so > I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to > learn! > > > > Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the > process straightforward or complex? > > > > If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me > started, it would be greatly appreciated! > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > -- > > Tammy George > > Sr. Systems Operator > > Technology Services > > Acadia University > > tel: (902) 585-1158 > > fax: (902) 585-1066 > > >
Re: OT - BES upgrade
Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time. HTH John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Yes. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 Subject: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Not
RE: OT - BES upgrade
Why not R2? Inquiring minds want to know…. Shook From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time. HTH John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Yes. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 Subject: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage
RE: OT - BES upgrade
Not supported. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Why not R2? Inquiring minds want to know…. Shook From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time. HTH John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Yes. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 Subject: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed
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RIM support told me I could run it on R2, but only with the most recent update. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote: > Not supported. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:29 PM > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: OT - BES upgrade > > > > Why not R2? Inquiring minds want to know…. > > > > Shook > > > > *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade > > > > Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, > set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users > (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or > pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down > time. > HTH > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > > -- > > *From*: Tammy George > *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 > *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade > > Yes. > > > > > > *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:14 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade > > > > Running on server 2003? > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > > -- > > *From*: Tammy George > *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 > *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade > > Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. > > > > > > > > *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:06 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade > > > > What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) > then 5. How many users? > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > > -- > > *From*: Tammy George > *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 > *Subject*: OT - BES upgrade > > Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – > > > > I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our > Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have **no** experience with BES so > I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to > learn! > > > > Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the > process straightforward or complex? > > > > If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me > started, it would be greatly appreciated! > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > -- > > Tammy George > > Sr. Systems Operator > > Technology Services > > Acadia University > > tel: (902) 585-1158 > > fax: (902) 585-1066 > > > > > -- > > CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or > attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), > confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, > dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this > information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without > the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information > may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act > of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or > unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil > and/or criminal penalties. > Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really > need to. > > This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for > the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not > read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed > in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the > company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no > viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility > for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. > > > -- > > CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT:
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Interesting... Could the new server be 2003 as opposed to 2008? From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time. HTH John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Yes. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 Subject: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make
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Do you have a link? I called two weeks ago, and was told that R2 support wouldn't be coming until 5.0 sp2. Thanks. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade RIM support told me I could run it on R2, but only with the most recent update. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Michael B. Smith mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote: Not supported. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com<mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com>] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Why not R2? Inquiring minds want to know Shook From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org<mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time. HTH John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George mailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>> Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Yes. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org<mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George mailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>> Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org<mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George mailto:tammy.geo...@acadiau.ca>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>> Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 Subject: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions - I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the p
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Same thing stated at WES as well...sp2 gets you R2, I think you can run but not officially supported, much like the SQL clustering, can run but not officially supported yet. And yes, the new can be 2003, we are currently in the same boat, exchange 2003 and BES 4.1.6, have a new environment with 5.0.1 on separate environment using BES Transporter to migrate, our biggest obstacle we are dealing with now is the named property limits within exchange 2003 being reached and causing migration issues for certain users. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Do you have a link? I called two weeks ago, and was told that R2 support wouldn't be coming until 5.0 sp2. Thanks. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade RIM support told me I could run it on R2, but only with the most recent update. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote: Not supported. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Why not R2? Inquiring minds want to know Shook From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time. HTH John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Yes. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 Subject: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions - I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been take
Re: OT - BES upgrade
As far as I know the only server product they are shy about is '08R2. It'll run on '03 just fine. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Tammy George wrote: > Interesting... > > > > Could the new server be 2003 as opposed to 2008? > > > > > > > > *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:27 PM > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade > > > > Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, > set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users > (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or > pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down > time. > HTH > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > > -- > > *From*: Tammy George > *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 > *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade > > Yes. > > > > > > *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:14 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade > > > > Running on server 2003? > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > > -- > > *From*: Tammy George > *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 > *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade > > Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. > > > > > > > > *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:06 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade > > > > What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) > then 5. How many users? > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > > -- > > *From*: Tammy George > *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 > *Subject*: OT - BES upgrade > > Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – > > > > I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our > Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have **no** experience with BES so > I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to > learn! > > > > Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the > process straightforward or complex? > > > > If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me > started, it would be greatly appreciated! > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > -- > > Tammy George > > Sr. Systems Operator > > Technology Services > > Acadia University > > tel: (902) 585-1158 > > fax: (902) 585-1066 > > > > > -- > > CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or > attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), > confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, > dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this > information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without > the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information > may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act > of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or > unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil > and/or criminal penalties. > Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really > need to. > > This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for > the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not > read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed > in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the > company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no > viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility > for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. > > > -- > > CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or > attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), > confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, > dissemination, or other u
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What about an in-place upgrade? I've read about this in the Upgrade documentation. Has anyone tried this? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade As far as I know the only server product they are shy about is '08R2. It'll run on '03 just fine. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Tammy George wrote: Interesting... Could the new server be 2003 as opposed to 2008? From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time. HTH John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Yes. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 Subject: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions - I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this
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You can run it on 2003 just fine but going forward do you want to keep setting up 2003 servers knowing EOS is not that many years off? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:43:05 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Interesting... Could the new server be 2003 as opposed to 2008? From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time. HTH John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Yes. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 Subject: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the
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Michael, I may well be running in what is officially an "unsupported" environment, but they didn't refuse to help me, and we were able to resolve the issues I was having. I am not able to use AD to login the the BES management interface, as far as I know that is the only thing that doesn't work. I am running 5.0.1 MR2(bundle 117).That is running on a R2 HyperV VM and tied to an E2k7 server environment. Again, if I had it to do over again I'd probably install 4.x for now. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:50 PM, May, Jeff wrote: > Same thing stated at WES as well…sp2 gets you R2, I think you can run but > not officially supported, much like the SQL clustering, can run but not > officially supported yet….. > > > > And yes, the new can be 2003, we are currently in the same boat, exchange > 2003 and BES 4.1.6, have a new environment with 5.0.1 on separate > environment using BES Transporter to migrate, our biggest obstacle we are > dealing with now is the named property limits within exchange 2003 being > reached and causing migration issues for certain users. > > > > *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:46 PM > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: OT - BES upgrade > > > > Do you have a link? I called two weeks ago, and was told that R2 support > wouldn’t be coming until 5.0 sp2. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > *From:* Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:39 PM > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade > > > > RIM support told me I could run it on R2, but only with the most recent > update. > > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Michael B. Smith > wrote: > > Not supported. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:29 PM > > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: OT - BES upgrade > > > > Why not R2? Inquiring minds want to know…. > > > > Shook > > > > *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 2:27 PM > > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade > > > > Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, > set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users > (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or > pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down > time. > HTH > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > > -- > > *From*: Tammy George > *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 > *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade > > Yes. > > > > > > *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:14 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade > > > > Running on server 2003? > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > > -- > > *From*: Tammy George > *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 > *Subject*: RE: OT - BES upgrade > > Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. > > > > > > > > *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > *Sent:* June 1, 2010 3:06 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade > > > > What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) > then 5. How many users? > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > > -- > > *From*: Tammy George > *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Sent*: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 > *Subject*: OT - BES upgrade > > Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – > > > > I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our > Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have **no** experience with BES so > I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to > learn! > > > > Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the > process straightforward or complex? > > > > If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me > started, it would be
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They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can purchase. I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the comfort , peace of mind and convenience. It basically allows you to have a second SRP ID and your new server and old server both connected to the BB network for 90 days. With this and the free BES migration tools, I simply setup my new server and moved users from the old system to the new one at my leisure. No moving databases, knife edge cut-overs or other silliness. The migration was easy, with no downtime for users. The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted remotely one time when I moved the specific user account.to the new server. Bill Tammy George wrote: Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions -- I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have **no** experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066
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Good point - we are using this upgrade (BES 4.1.6 on 2003 to 5.0 on virtual w/2008) as an opportunity to clear out all the old "stuff" in the DB and old hardware/OS etc. Transporter should allow for simple move to all new environment (it says here in the fine print). From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade You can run it on 2003 just fine but going forward do you want to keep setting up 2003 servers knowing EOS is not that many years off? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:43:05 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Interesting... Could the new server be 2003 as opposed to 2008? From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Well I just suffered through this so here goes - do backups at every stage, set up a new server (2008 SP2 not R2) if at all possible and migrate users (RIM has a tool for this)between servers. Upgrades are rarely clean or pretty. Open a case with RIM prior to starting, it will help mitigate down time. HTH John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:19:25 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Yes. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade Running on server 2003? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 14:12:12 2010 Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade Version 4.1.6.10 and 36 users. From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: June 1, 2010 3:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade What version of 4.1? You'll need to upgrade to 4.1.7 first (DB changes) then 5. How many users? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Tammy George To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 13:55:48 2010 Subject: OT - BES upgrade Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions - I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This in
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Sorry you had to pay, I got free support, do you not have T support? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Bill Humphries To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tue Jun 01 15:21:07 2010 Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can purchase. I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the comfort , peace of mind and convenience. It basically allows you to have a second SRP ID and your new server and old server both connected to the BB network for 90 days. With this and the free BES migration tools, I simply setup my new server and moved users from the old system to the new one at my leisure. No moving databases, knife edge cut-overs or other silliness. The migration was easy, with no downtime for users. The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted remotely one time when I moved the specific user account.to the new server. Bill Tammy George wrote: Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066 CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.
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That's how I did it, but I didn't have to pay. It was free. From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can purchase. I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the comfort , peace of mind and convenience. It basically allows you to have a second SRP ID and your new server and old server both connected to the BB network for 90 days. With this and the free BES migration tools, I simply setup my new server and moved users from the old system to the new one at my leisure. No moving databases, knife edge cut-overs or other silliness. The migration was easy, with no downtime for users. The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted remotely one time when I moved the specific user account.to the new server. Bill Tammy George wrote: Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions - I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066
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They let you have two SRPs at one time without paying? I know the transporter tools were free. We do have T support, but was told no multiple SRPs without buying another server license or this migration option. Martin Blackstone wrote: That's how I did it, but I didn't have to pay. It was free. *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:21 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can purchase. I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the comfort , peace of mind and convenience. It basically allows you to have a second SRP ID and your new server and old server both connected to the BB network for 90 days. With this and the free BES migration tools, I simply setup my new server and moved users from the old system to the new one at my leisure. No moving databases, knife edge cut-overs or other silliness. The migration was easy, with no downtime for users. The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted remotely one time when I moved the specific user account.to the new server. Bill Tammy George wrote: Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions -- I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have **no** experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066
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I have just done a 400 user migration. All I did was download the evaluation from RIM, entered the trial key. Then used the CALs from the live environment on the new environment and the transporter suite to move the users. Completely transparent to them that anything changed. The only thing I did ensure was that the devices were online when I moved them, so it was all done in production hours and warned the users they might see it go through the activation process. The RIM documentation is very good on the process. The only issues I have seen since the migration is where a user cannot be administrated. You click on the user and find that you cannot view their properties. Apparently this is quite common. Deleting the user then going through the reactivation process was the quick and easy fix. Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Need cheap certificates for Exchange, compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0? http://CertificatesForExchange.com/<http://certificatesforexchange.com/> for certificates from just $23.99. Need a domain for your certificate? http://DomainsForExchange.net/<http://domainsforexchange.net/> Exchange Resources: http://exbpa.com/ From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 June 2010 20:33 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - BES upgrade That's how I did it, but I didn't have to pay. It was free. From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can purchase. I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the comfort , peace of mind and convenience. It basically allows you to have a second SRP ID and your new server and old server both connected to the BB network for 90 days. With this and the free BES migration tools, I simply setup my new server and moved users from the old system to the new one at my leisure. No moving databases, knife edge cut-overs or other silliness. The migration was easy, with no downtime for users. The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted remotely one time when I moved the specific user account.to the new server. Bill Tammy George wrote: Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions - I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066
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I too was given a 90 day temporary SRP. All I did was ask. It only came with 5 CALS and would not allow me to transfer my "NON-temp" CAL's to it. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bill Humphries wrote: > They let you have two SRPs at one time without paying? I know the > transporter tools were free. > > We do have T support, but was told no multiple SRPs without buying another > server license or this migration option. > > > Martin Blackstone wrote: > > That’s how I did it, but I didn’t have to pay. It was free. > > > > *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:21 PM > *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT - BES upgrade > > > > They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can > purchase. I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the comfort > , peace of mind and convenience. It basically allows you to have a second > SRP ID and your new server and old server both connected to the BB network > for 90 days. With this and the free BES migration tools, I simply setup my > new server and moved users from the old system to the new one at my leisure. > No moving databases, knife edge cut-overs or other silliness. The migration > was easy, with no downtime for users. > > The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted > remotely one time when I moved the specific user account.to the new > server. > > > Bill > > > > Tammy George wrote: > > Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions – > > > > I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our > Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have **no** experience with BES so > I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to > learn! > > > > Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the > process straightforward or complex? > > > > If there’s anything at all that you’d be willing to share to get me > started, it would be greatly appreciated! > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > -- > > Tammy George > > Sr. Systems Operator > > Technology Services > > Acadia University > > tel: (902) 585-1158 > > fax: (902) 585-1066 > > > > > > >
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There is a trick to allow you to use production CALs with a T SRP. Overtype the first CAL with a production CAL. Then you can add the rest of the CALs to the server. I was running with 400 CALs on both servers for over a week when I did the migration I mentioned earlier in the thread. Simon. From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: 01 June 2010 20:50 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade I too was given a 90 day temporary SRP. All I did was ask. It only came with 5 CALS and would not allow me to transfer my "NON-temp" CAL's to it. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bill Humphries mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com>> wrote: They let you have two SRPs at one time without paying? I know the transporter tools were free. We do have T support, but was told no multiple SRPs without buying another server license or this migration option. Martin Blackstone wrote: That's how I did it, but I didn't have to pay. It was free. From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - BES upgrade They don't really publicize it, but RIM has a migration plan you can purchase. I think it costs $700, which I was willing to pay for the comfort , peace of mind and convenience. It basically allows you to have a second SRP ID and your new server and old server both connected to the BB network for 90 days. With this and the free BES migration tools, I simply setup my new server and moved users from the old system to the new one at my leisure. No moving databases, knife edge cut-overs or other silliness. The migration was easy, with no downtime for users. The only effect the migration had on users was each BB was restarted remotely one time when I moved the specific user account.to<http://account.to> the new server. Bill Tammy George wrote: Looking for any offers of advice or suggestions - I will be upgrading our BES server from 4.1 to 5.0 in preparation for our Exchange upgrade from 2003 to 2010. I have *no* experience with BES so I need to familiarize myself with it first and go from there. Lots to learn! Just wondering if anyone is familiar with useful lists or forums? Is the process straightforward or complex? If there's anything at all that you'd be willing to share to get me started, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. -- Tammy George Sr. Systems Operator Technology Services Acadia University tel: (902) 585-1158 fax: (902) 585-1066