Re: [expert] Backward compatibility

2001-10-26 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

If I am understanding your question correctly, you are looking for a
package that will offer compatibility for older apps (based on 2.1.x
glibc.  If that is the case, Mandrake DOES come with a similar package, it
is called:

compat-glibc-7.2-2.1.3.3mdk

HTH,
David Charles

On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Biagio Lucini wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Sergio Korlowsky wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday 24 October 2001 06:34 am, you wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > >   I have the following problem. I would like to use on Mandrake 8.1
> > > an executable that has been compiled for RH6.2 (of course, I don't have
> > > the source code). I know this is possible under RH 7.2, thanks to the
> > > packages
>
> [...]
>
> > Have you tried http://www.rpmfind.net
> >
>
> Yes, it seems that only RH packages that stuff. I was wandering if
> Mandrake has something equivalent.
>
> Biagio
>
>
>
>
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RE: [expert] dual booting with Win2k

2001-10-24 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

Can you please do me a favour and let me know what you have in your
lilo.conf for the FreeBSD & OpenBSD entries?

Thanks,
David Charles

On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Ralph Forsythe wrote:

> I'm actually running Mandrake 8.1, Win2k-server, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD all
> on the same laptop...  For some reason the redhat LILO doesn't like that
> so I was using the FreeBSD boot loader, but the mandrake version works
> beautifully since I've installed it.
>
> -rf
>
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Ron Heron wrote:
>
> > I have 8.1, W2k, and WinME on the same machine, but I just use lilo.  I
> > installed 8.1 on top of the win2k and winme, and when it came to configure
> > lilo, the only thing i did differently was to make windows the default.  I
> > don't think you will have any problem using the standard install, but the
> > Holt's approach is very interesting.  I have to try it :)
>
>
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RE: [expert] external usb hard drive problems

2001-10-20 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

I read the man page and looked around a bit on the net, but am not sure
what I should do;  should I use the --preload switch, and if so, then for
which modules?

Thanks,
David Charles

On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Jose M. Sanchez wrote:

>
> |
> |I wish *SOMEBODY* would include a USB kernel as an install
> |option! USB keyboard and mouse work a lot better if they are
> |available all through the boot process.  Also in regard to
> |your first question, it seems that the
> |USB has gotten a whole lot less "unpluggable" in 2.4.  Hint:
> |this is a step
> |backwards!
> |
> |mg
> |
>
> Including it in the kernel is not needed and/or superfluous...
>
> You can utilize mkinitrd to create a boot image (used automatically by
> the boot loader) that incorporates any modules that you need present and
> loaded during the first stage of the boot. Booting from a SCSI device
> requires this.
>
> There is no reason that you can use this to add in the USB drivers
> either. You could go as far as booting Linux from a USB hard drive
> (ugh!!).
>
>
> -JMS
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Re: [expert] How do I play a .cgi file

2001-10-20 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

Although perl is probably the most common language used for CGI, it is a
big misconception that they are one and the same.  In fact, a CGI can be
coded in any language you choose, and a lot ARE coded in C/C++, as well as
python, I have even seen DOS BAT files used for GGI (usually as a wrapper,
but still...)

HTH,

David Charles


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> they are perl files for execution of other apps
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> > .cgi files?
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[expert] external usb hard drive problems

2001-10-20 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

I have an external USB hard drive made by LaCie, which worked out of the
box, was automatically detected during installation, and is set up with
scsi emulation.  If I boot with the drive turned on, it is accessible as
sda1 & sda5 (it is partitioned into 2 FAT32 partitions).  There are errors
when it first tries to mount, saying that the 2 devices do not exist, but
then (I think because it only turns on scsi emulation AFTER trying to
mount the drives) it tries a few seconds later in the boot sequence and is
successful.

My problem is as follows:  if the drive is NOT turned on at boot time, I
can NOT mount either of the partitions on the drive, getting an error
message saying that the devices do not exist.  The kernel modules for usb
scsi emulation are loaded (and I even tried removing and reinserting the
modules which I think are needed), but it just does not work.

I think (and please tell me if I am wrong or omitting something) the
modules that are used are usb-scsi usb-ohci and usb-storage (I think, am
not at home and doing this from memory).

The other question I have, although not as bad because it still works, is
the error message I get when the system boots (that I mentioned at the
beginning) where the mounting of the usb drive's partitions fails and then
a few seconds later succeeds.  Is this because  the system tries to mount
the scsi drives (sda1 & sda5) BEFORE  the usb-scsi emulation is loaded?

I DO hope that someone can help me.

TIA,
David Charles




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Re: [expert] MandrakeLinux-8.1-Prosuite

2001-10-18 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

Could you please tell me where you saw this?

Thanks,
David Charles

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Sergio Korlowsky wrote:

>
> While checking some files, I noticed this 'New" iso available from the
> mirror I always use.   What is the deal with this version now? .
>
> Is just the new Server-only version of Mandrake, soft of a replacemnt
> for Corporate Server?  If so... that's Great News!
>
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Re: [expert] FTP Clients and d/l Speeds

2001-10-03 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

I would check to make sure that you aren't reading incorrectly; what Imean
is, that SOUNDS fine, when you consider that 1 kbyte = 8 kbits; IIRC, by
default WSFTP uses kbits (but it can be changed); also, USUALLY kbytes is
denoted with an uppercase "B" (i.e. kB or KB) whereas kbits is with a
small "b" (i.e. kb or Kb);

Anyways, 45 kBYTES is the same as 360 kBITS (45 * 8 = 360).

HTH,
David Charles

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, David Paik wrote:

> When downloading a file on my LM8.0 box I can't get over 45Kps. I can
> connect to the same site on my win box using WSFTP and get 300-400 Kps. I
> tried lftp and get the same speed. Is there something I need to tweak to get
> the higher rate? Or is there something I am missing?
>
> Thanks!
> David
>
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Re: [expert] tar.gz???

2001-10-03 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

the tar program has a filter built into it that lets it zip using either
gzip/bzip2  (and I think zip also, but can't remember) at the same time
that it is creating the archive; to do so, type the following:

$ tar -cvzf foo.tar.gz foo
OR
$ tar -cvjf foo.tar.bz2 foo

the first line, using the "z" switch, will compress using gzip;  the
second line, using the "j" switch, will compress using bzip2.

HTH,
David Charles

On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Franki wrote:

>
>
> Hi all,
>
> this is going to sound like a dumb question, but believe it or not, I have
> never done this before..
>
> I want to create .tar.gz files...
>
> to create a tar, I use tar -cvvf foo.tar foo/  to tar the foo directory
> (taken long ago from the readme)
>
> if I want to make that a tar.gz file, I assume I have another step?? tar
> alone doesn't seem to compress alot...
>
> so I would do what???
>
> tar -cvvf foo.tar foo/ && gunzip?
>
> Ta,
>
>
> rgds
>
> Frank
>
>
>




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Re: [expert] C++ for newbies...

2001-10-02 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

You know the @INC perl var, that has all the dirs that should be looked
into for packages (for use, etc.)?  well, the "#include " line
in your script (I am assuming there is such a line) is kind of like a "use
CGI;" line would be in a perl script, and just as perl searches the @INC
for CGI, the c compiler is searching for a header file named "iostream.h".
As for why iostream.h could not be found, I do not know; what is in your
include path?

David Charles

On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Franki wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I want to start playing with C++, I have written a good many perl scripts
> and I think its time to tackle a compiled language, something to cater to
> speed requirements...
>
> I arrived at C++ or JAVA, so I rushed out and got books on both,, Java in a
> Nutshell, and Sams Teach yourself C++ in 24 hours...
>
> Now I actually find the C++ book easier to read, (after the camel book, its
> positively easy to read.)
>
> So I have decided to start with C++...
>
> now I have a few questions and I am hoping someone here could perhaps help
> me out here
>
> 1. I just tried the hello world app on in the sames book out of curiosity
> and it told me that it couldn't find the include iostream.h  now my linux
> box was installed as a dev install and I basically installed anything that
> didn't conflict...
>
> There is no file called iosteam.h on that box, so I am assuming that its
> part of a windows package
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a windows and a linux compiler? I
> used g++ to try and compile hello world, what other choises do I have and
> what reasons would I choose one over the other...
>
>
> Ditto for the windows enviroment if anyone here has anything to do with
> it... (I just want to learn I don't care about the windows/linux/macos/etc
> etc... its just about me learning this..)
>
> I have actually found that book to be quiet readable, so if you are looking
> for a book on C++ you could do worse...
>
> its somethign of a shock to step out of nice sedate perl into c++, which is
> annoying because I want to learn c and Java immediatly afterwards, then ASP
> and some get better at PHP, I have alot of learning ahead of me...
>
> up till now, VB and perl were the only two languages (apart from html and
> Javascript) that I had any decent knowledge in...
>
> I think I should have started with C++ it would have been harder, but I
> would have found perl alot easier at first...
> not that it was all that hard anyway,, but c++ and java have more in common
> when either of them do with perl.,... and compiling and linking is all very
> new
>
>
> Any help would be most appreciative...
>
>
> rgds
>
> Frank
>
>
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Re: [expert] LILO - Fatal Error (for a friend-rush please?)

2001-09-24 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

This suggestion will NOT work if your Win2K is installed on an NTFS
partition, as there IS NO fdisk in Win2K (and win95 floppy will NOT
recognize NTFS drive);  You will have to boot into rescue mode (by using
the install floppies OR the rescue floppy set you made), and use "fixmbr".

HTH,
David Charles


On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Eric Paynter wrote:

> On September 23, 2001 01:18 pm, Leif Madsen wrote:
> > Friend of mine recently installed Mandrake 8.0 onto his laptop.  He now
> > can't get into his Win2K partition (which is important for school
> > tommorow).  This is his current lilo.conf file.
>
> The quick and dirty way to get back into windoze (while blowing away LILO for
> now) is to boot to DOS and rewrite the master boot record. Your windoze
> recovery disk should have the appropriate files present. Simply run "fdisk
> /mbr" from the DOS command line. Then run "fdisk" and select your windoze
> partition as "active". Then remove your recovery disk and reboot. It should
> come up with windoze. You can fix LILO later by booting from your madrake
> install CD.
>
> Good luck!
>
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Re: [expert] Problems with 8.1 RC1, Anybody else?

2001-09-24 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

Can you explain why it is a "sure-fire" problem, or point me to an article
explaining it please?

Thanks,
David Charles


>
> >When you are logged in and you right click on the desktop
> > and select log off then select shutdown the system hangs on "shutting down
> > portmapper"
>
> Are you trying to use nfs and reiserfs on the machine?  That is a sure-fire
> formula for this behavior.  The two do not get along.
>
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Re: [expert] compiling new kernel, keeping old kernel, how?

2001-09-21 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

Thanks, but as I said in my original posting, I have no problem with LILO,
or adding OSs to LILO.   What I AM having a problem with is figuring out
how to compile/install a kernel so that I can keep all the mods/deps from
my current kernel, AND those from the new kernel, in 2 SEPERATE places (if
it is possible).

Thanks,
David Charles


On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> All you simply need to do is add another stanza in your /etc/lilo.conf.
>
> For example, here's part of my laptop's lilo.conf:
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.5-3mdksmp
> label=245-3smp
> root=/dev/sda3
> read-only
> optional
> append=" quiet"
> initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.5-3mdksmp.img
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.6
> label=246
> root=/dev/sda3
> read-only
> optional
> append=" quiet"
>
> So let's say this one is yours.  Near the top of the file, you'll see
> your 'default' line to reflect which kernel image will boot by default
> (by what label it has).  So if you wanted to boot to the latter kernel
> image, just have '246' in your default line.  Like:  default=246
>
> Don't delete your old kosher kernel, just add the new one.  Know what
> I'm saying?  And don't forget to run lilo when you're done modifying
> your lilo.conf!
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> -Charlie
> On Thu 20 Sep at 22:13:57 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] done said:
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > I want to start off by thanking everyone who uses this list, especially
> > those who answered any of my previously posted questions.
> >
> > I would like to compile another kernel, and be able to boot from it.  I
> > have pretty much no problem on the "how" of compiling the kernel.  My
> > question concerns the fact that I have a system that is currently in VERY
> > good shape, with very few bugs/problems.  I would like to keep my current
> > kernel, as well as all of its dependencies/etc., seperate (and left where
> > they are) from the new kernel.  I would like to be able to choose from
> > lilo to boot either kernel A or kernel B (I know how to add to LILO no
> > prob); I would like it that, in the event that the new kernel seems to be
> > incompatible/cause problems with/break some of my software, that I can
> > just delete the kernel, map file, the deps, LILO entry etc. (for this,
> > perhaps a log of which files were installed would be helpful... where would I find
> > it/how would I make such a file during the compile/install process?) from
> > my system, and then, because I kept all the files needed by my current
> > kernel in their own seperate directory, I would be back in business with
> > my current, stable kernel running my system again.
> >
> > Can someone please either point me to a decent doc that details the
> > instructions of such an install, or post a response that includes a nice
> > detailed description of how to do it?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > David Charles
> >
> >
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[expert] compiling new kernel, keeping old kernel, how?

2001-09-20 Thread ddcharles

Hello everybody,

I want to start off by thanking everyone who uses this list, especially
those who answered any of my previously posted questions.

I would like to compile another kernel, and be able to boot from it.  I
have pretty much no problem on the "how" of compiling the kernel.  My
question concerns the fact that I have a system that is currently in VERY
good shape, with very few bugs/problems.  I would like to keep my current
kernel, as well as all of its dependencies/etc., seperate (and left where
they are) from the new kernel.  I would like to be able to choose from
lilo to boot either kernel A or kernel B (I know how to add to LILO no
prob); I would like it that, in the event that the new kernel seems to be
incompatible/cause problems with/break some of my software, that I can
just delete the kernel, map file, the deps, LILO entry etc. (for this,
perhaps a log of which files were installed would be helpful... where would I find
it/how would I make such a file during the compile/install process?) from
my system, and then, because I kept all the files needed by my current
kernel in their own seperate directory, I would be back in business with
my current, stable kernel running my system again.

Can someone please either point me to a decent doc that details the
instructions of such an install, or post a response that includes a nice
detailed description of how to do it?

Thanks in advance,
David Charles




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Re: [expert] what options was my kernel compiled with?

2001-09-20 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

to be able to see the file ".config" you will need to do "ls -a" not "ls
-l".

David Charles

On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Al Andersen wrote:


>
> BTW, in the kernel source code directory there's a hidden file. It's called
> .config (do an "ls -l" to see it). It contains the configuration data for
> your kernel. Back it up so you can copy it to .config should you mess up!
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Re: [expert] mount -t ?Mac? /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

2001-09-18 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

I don't know if the floppies use the same fs as mac hard drives, but I DO
know that Mac's fs is HFS, which IS supported by mount.

HTH,
David Charles

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Felix Miata wrote:

> I just looked throught 'man mount' without seeing anything to indicate a
> Mac formatted floppy can be mounted. I have no clue what FS type is used
> on a Mac floppy. Is this doable on Intel Linux? Do Macs still use
> mechanically different floppy disk drives?
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Re: [expert] Windows fonts with Mandrake 8.0?

2001-09-17 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

I am hoping that someone can help this guy out;  I also have a similar
problem when trying to use "Get Windows fonts";  when I click on get
windows fonts, and select the fonts, it just hangs, and drakfont NEVER
responds (I even tried leaving it on over night once) so I have to kill
it.

Thanks,
David Charles

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, David Guntner wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm using drakfont to examine the fonts that I have available to me. If I
> click on "Get Windows fonts", it complains that there's no Windows
> partition on my machine - which, strictly speaking, is true.  It tells me
> to use 'Add fonts" instead.  Now, I *do* have a Windows 98 machine running
> on my little home network here, and its C: drive is mounted on the Linux
> machine as /mnt/c.  I can cd to /mnt/c/windows/fonts just fine and look at
> the files, etc.  However, if I use "Add fonts" and work my way over to that
> directory, any font file that I try to click on doesn't get selected, and
> if I manually type the font file name into the "Selection:" box and click
> ok, I get an error message.  It doesn't bother to tell me what the problem
> is, it just say "Error while opening '/mnt/c/WINDOWS/FONTS/arial.tif' (as
> an example).
>
> So, two questions here:  One, is there any way that I can fool drakfont
> into using /mnt/c/windows/fonts as a Windows Font directory, so that "Get
> Windows fonts" will work?  And two, is there any way to clear up whatever
> the error is when I try to select a font manually?
>
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Re: [expert] Changing mounts and partitions

2001-09-16 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

That IS a good solution Civileme;  however, most of the time when I am
going to delete a full directory, I do the following:

ls /dir
and if it IS in fact what I want to delete, I then type
rm -Rf ESC+_
(that is escape and underscore, to insert that last argument from the last
command)
which prevents ANY possible typo/cat-from-hell incident.

David Charles

On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, civileme wrote:

> On Sunday 16 September 2001 14:56, Felix Miata wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I know it saves a keystroke, and that is PRECISELY the reason I use -R
> > > instead of -r;  as I explained in my posting, using "rm -Rf /dir" is NOT
> > > something to be taken lightly, and that is why I got into the habit of
> > > -R, so that I HAD to do one extra keystroke, and therefore have one more
> > > chance to think of what I am doing and change my mind.
> >
> > Anyone interested in saving keystrokes can save a whole lot more by
> > typing these first thing upon login:
> >
> > mc
> >
> > Once you do that, you find the dir you think you want to remove and hit
> > enter. Now you can see whether what's in there is what you really do
> > want to rm. Hit enter again, then F8, confirm, and it's gone.
>
>
> Heeheehee
>
> Yep
> decide you are going to type
>
> rm -rf /.somercd/messages/
>
> and you get this far
>
> rm -rf /
>
> and the housecat leaps onto the desk and tromps on the 'enter'
> key.
>
> Could it be that briefly through your mind flashes a change in the dinner
> menu before you begin reiterating every crime the cat ever committed and
> exploring all the unlikely ancestries the cat may have had?  Probably.
>
> Well I don't like the extra keystroke myself so,
>
> rm -r /.somercd/messages/ -f
>
> is my approach.
>
> Civileme
>
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Re: [expert] spaces and command line

2001-09-16 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

when you cd to a directory that has spaces in its name, you have to escape
the spaces with a back slash, e.g.:

[/]$ cd dir\ name\ with\ spaces\ in\ name
[/dir name with spaces in name]$

as for scrolling up, try SHIFT+PGUP.

HTH,
David Charles


On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Mike & Tracy Holt wrote:

> I've got a couple of newbie questions that I've just never really
> bothered asking before but it's always bothered me, so here goes.  1st,
> I've noticed that bash doesn't seem to handle spaces in directory or
> file names very well.  When I look at my windows partitions from linux,
> I can see the complete file names, but when I try to 'cd' to a certain
> directory, bash doesn't seem to deal to well with the spaces.  I've
> found that I can just use an asterisk in place of the spaces, but is
> there another way?
>
> 2nd, if I'm at the command line, no X server involved, is there a way to
> 'scroll' up to see what stout was previously on the screen?  Say I do
> 'ls' and then do some other stuff and lose that information, is there
> anyway to retrieve that screen or is it just printed once and lost?
>
> 
> Mike & Tracy Holt
> Kirkland, WA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>
>
>
>
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Re: [expert] Fwd: Re: [newbie] filenames with spaces causing errorin script

2001-09-15 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

Like I said before, I don't do my scripting in bash, but in perl.  There
are 2 books that I find indispensible; namely:

Programming Perl by Larry Wall, Tom Christiansen & Randal L. Scwartz (O'Reilly ISBN 
1-56592-149-6)
Perl Black Book by Steven Holzner (CoriolisOpen Press ISBN 1-57610-465-6)

I also do a lot of programming with databases, and for that I find

Programming the Perl DBI by Alligator Descartes & Tim Bunce (O'Reilly ISBN 
1-56592-699-4)

very helpful.

If you are going to go with just one book, most people would tell you the
Programming Perl (camel book) from O'Reilly, because one of the credits
for authors is Larry Wall, but I would suggest you go with th Perl Black
Book; it is 1282 pages (!!!) long, and has a LOT of VERY USEFUL examples,
that are in fact full programs, covering everything from basic file
handling, to sysadmin work, to advanced socket programming (a working
e-mail client and irc chat server & client for example) and A LOT MORE.  I
find that the camel book is pretty much just a printed copy of the
"perldoc" POD pages (which are included with every perl distribution, with
a tiny bit of chit chat in between, whereas the Black Book has all that,
as well as the tons of examples, and very helpful commentary.

I know this is starting to sound like an info-mercial, so I am going to
stop at that.  BUT, if you ARE looking into scripting, DO SERIOUSLY
consider perl as an alternative to shell (bash/sh/csh) scripting, not
only do I (and MANY other people) feel that it is FAR superior, it is
also, for the most part, VERY portable...

Anyways, HTH,
David Charles

On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, bascule wrote:

> hi, thanks to all for your replies, i understand the principle if IFS if not
> the implementation jipe! and your addition below david explains all the 'bad
> interpreter' errors!  all said i can see that my only book on shell
> programming is woefully basic, so, i went into waterstones today to see what
> they had, not a lot, and my acid test of looking IFS up in the index to see
> what it could tell me failed in all of them, i was rather hoping there would
> be an o'reilly book but i couldn't find one, what would people recommend?
> amazon list an o'reilly book devoted just to bash, can one fill a book about
> bash without discussing a lot about programming? would this be a good choice?
>
> i welcome peoples advice on reading matter, online docs are all very well but
> i do like a proper book and also i can take a book to work but not my
> computer!
>
> bascule
>
> On Saturday 15 September 2001 6:39 am, you wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I forgot to add, you have to put:
> >
> > #!/path/to/perl
> >
> > as the first line of the script I posted; (on standard mandrake 8 install,
> > that would be #!/usr/bin/perl)  also "chmod +x scriptname" without quotes.
> >
> > David Charles
>
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Re: [expert] Changing mounts and partitions

2001-09-15 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

To delete a directory, with everything in it, WITHOUT confirmation (not to
be done lightly), type:

rm -Rf /dir

-R = recursive, -f = force

As for problems, from what you're saying (used cp -a =
permissions/ownership good) then I don't think so.

HTH,
David Charles

On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, ryan_steffes wrote:

> Well by just trying it, the answers seems to be, Yes, Yes you can.
>
>
> I did:
>
> cd /usr
> cp -a . /new
> vi /etc fstab
> (changed the mount point for hdb3 from /new to /usr)
> mv /usr /usr2
> mkdir /usr
>
>
> Then I rebooted and everything came up fine.  Can anyone give me
> anything that may cause a problem in the future before I delete the old
> /usr2?
>
>
> Also, is there a way to turn off confirmation on rm -r?  I can't imagine
> having to hit a 'y' for every file in /usr2!
>
> Ry
>
>
>


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Re: [expert] Promise & 'LI' at boot

2001-09-15 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

This IS pretty much the EXACT same setup I have (different brand
controller though).  First, check to make sure that the bios has the boot
order checking the correct devices in the correct order (i.e. make it boot
off CD, then the correct hard drive (you will have to figure out what it
is, from my bios, and others I have seen, it is usually hdx, where x is a
number >= 0, which you figure out by counting from first hd/first
controller hd0, second hd/first controller hd1, first hd/third controller
hd2, etc., but NOT skipping numbers.  So if you have 2 hd, one is first
hd/first controller and other is second hd/third controller, they would
be hd0 and hd1 respectively NOT hd0 and hd5) for hde.

Next, add a line to your lilo.conf near the top ABOVE  the
"image=..." listings that says "disk=/dev/hde bios=0x80" without quotes
(this is assuming that you have hde as the FIRST hd that the bios will
boot.  Also, change lilo.conf back to booting from hde again
"boot=/dev/hde" without quotes.

Then, rename your hda*.bak to their original names again and remove the
symbolic link to hde.

try running /sbin/lilo, and rebooting (all this was done ONLY AFTER you
made sure you had a rescue disk of course, just in case ;) ).

Hopefully, it will do the trick.

HTH
David Charles

On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Joan Tur wrote:

> Es Divendres 14 Setembre 2001 23:56, en [EMAIL PROTECTED] va
> escriure:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I had almost the exact same thing happen to me; It had to do with what was
> > master/slave on the ide controller, what was set to boot first in the
> > bios, and adding a line to LILO.  If you tell me what is set to boot first
> > in the bios, I might have an idea;
> lilo.conf:
> ---
> [root@quinipc etc]# cat lilo.conf
> boot=/dev/hde
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> vga=794
> default=Mandrake8
> keytable=/boot/es-latin1.klt
> lba32
> prompt
> timeout=50
> message=/boot/message-graphic
> menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
>  label=Mandrake8
>  root=/dev/sdb6
>  initrd=/boot/initrd.img
>  append=" hdc=ide-scsi"
>  vga=788
>  read-only
> other=/dev/hde1
>  label=WinME
>  table=/dev/hde
> ...
> ---
> HD is plugged in the 3rd ide controller, the 1st promise one.  So it's ide2
> and i can access its partitions using hde as device.
>
> -ide0: disabled in bios
> -ide1: DVD as master
> -ide2: IBM 30Gb as master
> -ide3: empty
>
> Lilo always run fine (i get no errors).  I've also renamed /dev/hda* to
> /dev/hda*.bak and made simbolic links to /dev/hde* and then pointed lilo.conf
> to hda instead of hde and lilo still runs fine... but i still get 'LI'  8-?
>
> And i cannot use sda to boot because winME won't boot then... what about
> making a partition on hda to have there lilo??  8-?
>
> Thanks for your help!!
>
> > David Charles
> >
> > On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, jipe wrote:
> > > Joan Tur wrote:
> > > >Hallo!
> > > >
> > > >I've changed my K6-III-400 for a Gigabyte 7DXR with a Promise controller
> > > > & 1200 Athlon.  My system is on a scsi hd and ide has to boot first in
> > > > order for win to boot so i've put lilo on hde.
> > > >
> > > >But i get 'LI' on startup.  I've checked the mail archive and found no
> > > >sollution for this.  Now i'm using a floppy disk to boot.
> > > >
> > > >And what i've tryed is:
> > > >-renaming /dev/hda* to /dev/hda*.bak
> > > >-ln -s /dev/hda /dev/hde (and so on)
> > > >and setting the startup hd to either hda or hde  8?
> > > >
> > > >Any idea??  Thanks!!  ;)
> > >
> > > probably  lilo search /boot/boot.b at a wrong place -> edit
> > > /etc/lilo.conf, make changes, then type lilo
> > > if no, it's a problem with the geometry of your disk(s)
> > >
> > > bye
> > > jipe
>
> --
> Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain
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>   Joan.Tur.pagina.de  www.ClubIbosim.org
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>
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Re: [expert] Fwd: Re: [newbie] filenames with spaces causing errorin script

2001-09-14 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

I do all my scripting in perl, so you could try this:


use vars qw($dir @files @wavs);
$dir = $ARGV[0];
if (defined($dir)) { &wav2mp3; }
elsif (!defined($dir)) {
print "\nPlease enter the FULL path to the directory that CONTAINS the WAVS: ";
chomp($dir = );
&wav2mp3;
}
sub wav2mp3 {
opendir (DIR, "$dir") or die "Can't open $dir for input";
@files = readdir DIR;
closedir DIR;

foreach (@files) {
next if !/wav$/;
push @wavs, $_;
}

foreach (@wavs) {
my $mp3name = $_ . "\.mp3";
system("lame -b 256 -q 0 $_ $mp3name");
}
}
__END__


by the way, for my version of lame the -q switch is -V, (I think), so I
tried it with that.

HTH,
David Charles

On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, jipe wrote:

>
>
> bascule wrote:
>
> >i have posted this on newbie but had no repsonse,
> >after playing around i have found that the section in my little script that
> >says `ls *.wav` is probably my problem, reading 'man ls' i changed it to `ls
> >-Q *.wav` but this didn't work, then i discovered something wierd,
> >
> >if i do:
> >$ls -Q *.wav
> >i get the following:
> >
> >"11_move on.wav"  "26_i don't know why.wav"
> >"12_leon.wav" "27_a man's job.wav"
> >"13_itch.wav" "28_it's too bad.wav"
> >"14_wake up.wav"  "29_do you love me.wav"
> >"15_what generation are you.wav"
> >
> >i.e. a list of filenames with the ""around them, job done i thought, but to
> >test i did:
> >$ for file in `ls -Q *.wav`;do echo "$file";done
> >and this gave me:
> >
> >"26_i
> >don't
> >know
> >why.wav"
> >"27_a
> >man's
> >job.wav"
> >"28_it's
> >too
> >bad.wav"
> >"29_do
> >you
> >love
> >me.wav"
> >
> >as you can see, i get a list of each individual 'word' in the filenames, can
> >someone help or explain this for me?
> >
> >bascule
> >
> >--  Forwarded Message  --
> >
> >Subject: Re: [newbie] filenames with spaces causing error in script
> >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:44:49 +0100
> >From: bascule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >i have also tried the following:
> >$ for file in `ls *.wav`;do lame -b 256 -q 0 "$file" "`basename "$file"
> >.wav`".mp3;done
> >
> >i think this is fine apart from the first line, i think this is feeding each
> >seperate word in a filename as a filename to the lame command, i think that
> >it might actually be complicated to return a list of files that have
> >spacenames and assign each whole filename to a variable
> >am i wrong?
> >
> >bascule
> >
> >On Thursday 13 September 2001 10:18 pm, I wrote:
> >
> >>hi,
> >>i have used the following to convert some homemade wavs into mp3s:
> >>$ for file in `ls *.wav`;do lame -b 256 -q 0 $file `basename $file
> >>.wav`.mp3;done
> >>
> >>it works fine except for file names with spaces, i can't work out how to
> >>rectify this, i have also tried:
> >>$ for file in `ls *.wav`;do lame -b 256 -q 0 "$file" "`basename $file
> >>.wav`.mp3";done
> >>
> >>and
> >>$ for file in "`ls *.wav`";do lame -b 256 -q 0 "$file" "`basename $file
> >>.wav`".mp3;done
> >>
> >>as you can see i've tried using "" around references to file names but this
> >>hasn't helped, could someone please help me out
> >>
> >>tia
> >>
> >>bascule
> >>
>
> write something like that:
>
> #!/bin/bash
> IFS=$(echo -e "\n\r\t")
> for wav_name in (ls *.wav) ; do
> lame  "${wav_name}" "$(basename ${wav_name} .wav).mp3"
> rm -f  "${wav_name}"  #add this line only if u want to erase your wav
> file after encoding!
> done
>
> but r u sure about -q O? the version i run doesn't accept
> them(lame-3.22b-1)
>
> bye
> jipe
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [expert] Fwd: Re: [newbie] filenames with spaces causing errorin script

2001-09-14 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

what is going on here is that the for loop is iterating over EACH element
in `ls -Q *.wav`, which returns each song title surrounded by quotes,
which don't make a difference, as it is seperating the "list" into
elements by splitting on spaces.

David Charles

On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, bascule wrote:

> i have posted this on newbie but had no repsonse,
> after playing around i have found that the section in my little script that
> says `ls *.wav` is probably my problem, reading 'man ls' i changed it to `ls
> -Q *.wav` but this didn't work, then i discovered something wierd,
>
> if i do:
> $ls -Q *.wav
> i get the following:
> 
> "11_move on.wav"  "26_i don't know why.wav"
> "12_leon.wav" "27_a man's job.wav"
> "13_itch.wav" "28_it's too bad.wav"
> "14_wake up.wav"  "29_do you love me.wav"
> "15_what generation are you.wav"
>
> i.e. a list of filenames with the ""around them, job done i thought, but to
> test i did:
> $ for file in `ls -Q *.wav`;do echo "$file";done
> and this gave me:
> 
> "26_i
> don't
> know
> why.wav"
> "27_a
> man's
> job.wav"
> "28_it's
> too
> bad.wav"
> "29_do
> you
> love
> me.wav"
>
> as you can see, i get a list of each individual 'word' in the filenames, can
> someone help or explain this for me?
>
> bascule
>
> --  Forwarded Message  --
>
> Subject: Re: [newbie] filenames with spaces causing error in script
> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:44:49 +0100
> From: bascule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> i have also tried the following:
> $ for file in `ls *.wav`;do lame -b 256 -q 0 "$file" "`basename "$file"
> .wav`".mp3;done
>
> i think this is fine apart from the first line, i think this is feeding each
> seperate word in a filename as a filename to the lame command, i think that
> it might actually be complicated to return a list of files that have
> spacenames and assign each whole filename to a variable
> am i wrong?
>
> bascule
>
> On Thursday 13 September 2001 10:18 pm, I wrote:
> > hi,
> > i have used the following to convert some homemade wavs into mp3s:
> > $ for file in `ls *.wav`;do lame -b 256 -q 0 $file `basename $file
> > .wav`.mp3;done
> >
> > it works fine except for file names with spaces, i can't work out how to
> > rectify this, i have also tried:
> > $ for file in `ls *.wav`;do lame -b 256 -q 0 "$file" "`basename $file
> > .wav`.mp3";done
> >
> > and
> > $ for file in "`ls *.wav`";do lame -b 256 -q 0 "$file" "`basename $file
> > .wav`".mp3;done
> >
> > as you can see i've tried using "" around references to file names but this
> > hasn't helped, could someone please help me out
> >
> > tia
> >
> > bascule
>
> ---
>
>
>
>


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Re: [expert] Promise & 'LI' at boot

2001-09-14 Thread ddcharles

Hi,

I had almost the exact same thing happen to me; It had to do with what was
master/slave on the ide controller, what was set to boot first in the
bios, and adding a line to LILO.  If you tell me what is set to boot first
in the bios, I might have an idea;

David Charles

On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, jipe wrote:

>
>
> Joan Tur wrote:
>
> >Hallo!
> >
> >I've changed my K6-III-400 for a Gigabyte 7DXR with a Promise controller &
> >1200 Athlon.  My system is on a scsi hd and ide has to boot first in order
> >for win to boot so i've put lilo on hde.
> >
> >But i get 'LI' on startup.  I've checked the mail archive and found no
> >sollution for this.  Now i'm using a floppy disk to boot.
> >
> >And what i've tryed is:
> >-renaming /dev/hda* to /dev/hda*.bak
> >-ln -s /dev/hda /dev/hde (and so on)
> >and setting the startup hd to either hda or hde  8?
> >
> >Any idea??  Thanks!!  ;)
> >
> probably  lilo search /boot/boot.b at a wrong place -> edit
> /etc/lilo.conf, make changes, then type lilo
> if no, it's a problem with the geometry of your disk(s)
>
> bye
> jipe
>
>
>


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[expert] nfs mounting

2001-09-11 Thread ddcharles

Hello,

I have several machines at home; my main box is running LM 8.0/XF86 4, and
has several shares set up through both NFS and Samba.

The NFS share is set in /etc/exports like so:

/   10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash)

The Samba shares I set up using SWAT.

I am having a few problems with my setup;  The first (and I think the most
straightforward) is with the NFS.  I setup this share for my laptop, a NEC
Versa M/75 (486DX 75Mhz w/8MB RAM) running Slackware 4.0 (from what I
gather one of the most complete distros for minimal machines), and
made it on "/" so that I wouldhave access to any/all partitions/folders.  I have found 
that I can
connect with NO problem, and I can see everything on the "/" partition,
but NOTHING from any of the OTHER partitions that are mounted on "/" are
browseable (as if they don't exist/aren't mounted).  That means that I can
NOT get into my /home, /mnt/win98, /mnt/win2000, /mnt/suse (the last 3 are
where I have mounted folders from other machines on the LAN that I want
access to) which is a problem, because those folders hold most of what I
want to access from the laptop.  It seems that the folders that aren't
showing are all on seperate partitions; is that right? when I export "/"
it does NOT export the whole tree, but ONLY that partition?

The other major problem, is that even though I installed rshd on my LM8
box, and I have the client on the Slack4 box, when I try and connect I get
the following message:

hostname.domainname: Connection reset by peer

this, I have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA about.

I hope someone can help with these questions.

Thanks,
David Charles




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