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On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Ron Stodden wrote: It's been available on the FTP site as a pre-release or beta (if you will) for some time now. I know. Directory 6.1b contains this.There is now a new 6.1 directory on the mirrors in addition, which Axalon tells me is not yet the real thing and changes often (so probably should be ignored). Well, I don't know about the new 6.1 directory, but I base "release" not on something sitting in an FTP site but on someone making some sort of announcement (ie. "Mandrake 6.1 (Helios) is released on such and such a date"). Since it has been announced like that and the homepage still refers to Cassini as a beta pre-release, I'm going by that. shrug Vincent Danen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . ICQ: 16978834 BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta Stronghold Enterprises/X BBS . http://shx.tzo.net Telnet://shx.tzo.net . Weblogin-http://shx.tzo.net/shx
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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Ron Stodden wrote: Confidence misplaced. 6.1 (Helios) is already released and downloadable from the mirrors. There was a nice apology on Slashdot this morning saying no, Mandrake 6.1 was not released, so refrain from slashdotting their servers until it's really out. -- Arandir... ___ http://www.meer.net/~arandir/
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Axalon Bloodstone wrote: Have you seen a press release for 6.1 Yet? And why not, because it's not ready obviously. I said "6.1 (Helios) is already released and downloadable from the mirrors." Well, I'm sorry, but that seems to be a true statement. If you doubt it, look up "released" in your favourite dictionary. The new 6.1 directory is in addition to the 6.1b directory. AND, once a thing is assigned a version number and released, it may NOT be altered. So when you do the real release you will now have to call it 6.1-n. The reason for all this rigorous control derives directly out of support requirements. OTOH, release logistics do require that the release must be available on all the mirrors just before the formal release announcement is made. -- Ron Stodden
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Is there any chance that pcmcia installs will work in 6.1? Paul
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On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, you wrote: Is there any chance that pcmcia installs will work in 6.1? iirc, a "bugfix" pcmcia image was released shortly after Mandrake 6.0 was released... John
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On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Paul Ashton wrote: Is there any chance that pcmcia installs will work in 6.1? Paul I Imagine so, but I'm not a mathimatition (obviously not an english major either) -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
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Is there any chance that pcmcia installs will work in 6.1? I Imagine so, but I'm not a mathimatition (obviously not an english major either) I only ask, because it has never worked in at least the last 6 months, though I did manage to hack the pcmcia disk to get it to work. Paul
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On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, you wrote: Quite true! I issued the same remark on the french list and I got the reply that :"Not every body uses KDE after all..." (dixit) Personnaly, i'd rather wait a few days and get the final release of KDE rather get a pre-something Too bad KDE 1.1.2 is out.. Its on the KDE mirrors now.
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Is there any chance that pcmcia installs will work in 6.1? iirc, a "bugfix" pcmcia image was released shortly after Mandrake 6.0 was released... Didn't work, nor does/did the one in cassini. I posted a detailed report about the problem (and solution) here: http://www.mail-archive.com/expert@linux-mandrake.com/msg03162.html Paul
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On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, you wrote: Vincent Danen wrote: But you're coming damn-near to assuming Mandrake is going to pull a Mickeysoft and release 6.1 without fixing the bugs first. Confidence misplaced. 6.1 (Helios) is already released and downloadable from the mirrors. And this without even waiting for KDE 1.1.2, due next week! Actually, its not completely done.. If you check file tiimestamps, they are updating it once a day.. -- Cthulhu for President in 2000 - Why settle for the lesser evil
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Quite true! I issued the same remark on the french list and I got the reply that :"Not every body uses KDE after all..." (dixit) Personnaly, i'd rather wait a few days and get the final release of KDE rather get a pre-something Too bad -Message d'origine- De: Ron Stodden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: mardi 14 septembre 1999 05:44 À: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet: Re: [expert] Bug Reports... Vincent Danen wrote: But you're coming damn-near to assuming Mandrake is going to pull a Mickeysoft and release 6.1 without fixing the bugs first. Confidence misplaced. 6.1 (Helios) is already released and downloadable from the mirrors. And this without even waiting for KDE 1.1.2, due next week! -- Ron Stodden
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On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Ron Stodden wrote: But you're coming damn-near to assuming Mandrake is going to pull a Mickeysoft and release 6.1 without fixing the bugs first. Confidence misplaced. 6.1 (Helios) is already released and downloadable from the mirrors. And this without even waiting for KDE 1.1.2, due next week! Are you sure it's been *released*? It's been available on the FTP site as a pre-release or beta (if you will) for some time now. In fact, Lorax, RH's 6.1 is also available via ftp and is downloadable in many places... It hasn't been released yet either, just made available for public testing and feedback. There's a difference. Vincent Danen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . ICQ: 16978834 BBBS/LiI . Internet Rex for Linux Beta Stronghold Enterprises/X BBS . http://shx.tzo.net Telnet://shx.tzo.net . Weblogin-http://shx.tzo.net/shx
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On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Ron Stodden wrote: Vincent Danen wrote: But you're coming damn-near to assuming Mandrake is going to pull a Mickeysoft and release 6.1 without fixing the bugs first. Confidence misplaced. 6.1 (Helios) is already released and downloadable from the mirrors. And this without even waiting for KDE 1.1.2, due next week! 1.1.2 was due three weeks ago. It was put into cassini last week when the tarballs were released to packagers. Have you seen a press release for 6.1 Yet? And why not, because it's not ready obviously. Yes release files were changed, but you'll notice that there are still frequent file changes going on, it was just something we needed out of the way. In the mean time keep testing and fileing bug good bug reports and we'll keep doing our thing. =cD -- MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ --Axalon
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On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, you wrote: I recently read a post from Gael, requesting that we stop bashing them about the bug reports. Well unfortunately I cannot do that. Not until the problem/problems get resolved. The developers have to understand that if a product has bugs in it, that those bugs have to be answered and fixed before going to the next release. I know I have come down hard before on the lack of response from the Mandrake Team on getting things done and answering questions, and yes the response has picked up somewhat. But legitimate bugs are not getting answered. Something must be done about this. Theres a real easy way to fix it.. Get the source and compile it yourself. Heres an even better question: Did you buy Mandrake or did you download it? And when I say buy it, I dont mean from CheapBytes. Did you buy a support agreement? People that buy genuine copies of Mandrake, or support agreements obviously are going to get preferential treatment.. Sorry, thats how a business works. Don't like it? You're more than welcome to go out and build your own Linux distribution. I downloaded my copy of Mandrake 6 and I would never dream of attacking these people the way you have in this forum.. Next question: If you think this is such a simple problem to fix, why dont you help a little and fix it? And then, submit the fix to the developers? Isn't that supposed to be what Linux is all about?? Everyone helping everyone else to make Linux better?? Axalon, Gael, and the others don't have to monitor this list. I, personally am grateful for their presence here. -- Cthulhu for President in 2000 - Why settle for the lesser evil
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Vincent Danen wrote: It's been available on the FTP site as a pre-release or beta (if you will) for some time now. I know. Directory 6.1b contains this.There is now a new 6.1 directory on the mirrors in addition, which Axalon tells me is not yet the real thing and changes often (so probably should be ignored). -- Ron Stodden
