Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
In addition to updating the mod-utils package, the new DEVFS may be causing the problems with the sound cards and the ppp daemon. The new device filesystem is very different from the old system and may break things. There are warnings about this and a userspace daemon to try to maintain backwards compatibility with older drivers that haven't been updated. I haven't built/run a 2.4 kernel in a while so I can't speak to specifics, but it is something to check up on. -- Matthew Micene A host is a host from coast to coast, Systems Development Managerand no one will talk to a host too close Express Search Inc.Unless the host that isn't close www.ExpressSearch.com is busy, hung or dead
Re[2]: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
Brian Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 07 January 2001 12:51 pm, you wrote: It sounds as though you don't have the ppp support compiled into your kernel. Go back to the configuration and check to make sure it's turned on. I tried compiling it in, but that doesn't seem to do anything either. :( dumb question, but you never know: I assume you also installed the new kernel, ran lilo (making sure lilo got the new kernel! - I've missed this step before!), and rebooted? Miss any one of these and you won't get your new kernel... (well, ok, if you run 'make install' you've hit most of the steps ;-) (assuming you're /etc/lilo.conf is set 'right') rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825
Re: Re[2]: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
On Monday 08 January 2001 10:35 am, you wrote: Brian Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 07 January 2001 12:51 pm, you wrote: It sounds as though you don't have the ppp support compiled into your kernel. Go back to the configuration and check to make sure it's turned on. I tried compiling it in, but that doesn't seem to do anything either. :( dumb question, but you never know: I assume you also installed the new kernel, ran lilo (making sure lilo got the new kernel! - I've missed this step before!), and rebooted? Miss any one of these and you won't get your new kernel... (well, ok, if you run 'make install' you've hit most of the steps ;-) (assuming you're /etc/lilo.conf is set 'right') rc As far as I know, I got all that right. I don't think I had made the changes to modules.conf the last time I compiled the kernel from scratch, so maybe I should try that again. Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825
Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
On Sunday 07 January 2001 02:25, you wrote: I remember seeing some messages (here?) not too long ago about "kernel panic: VFS unable to mount root filesystem" and builds of kernel-2.4.0. Well, I just built this kernel and get this when I try to boot it up. I don't have the messages anymore - they weren't applicable to anything I was doing at the time but now I wish I had kept a few. Can anyone enlighten me as to any special considerations when building 2.4.0 that I may be missing that might be causing this problem? The kernel and all modules built just fine and I really didn't select anything wierd - just a few more modules that were available vs the 2.2.x kernels and certainly nothing wierd concerning file systems. My partitions are ext2. Check the architecture you built for and the compiler you used For this purpose, 2.96 seems to work better, and it is wise to build 386 kernels and assure they work before trying the more advanced architectures. Some of the effects on timing are... interesting. Civileme
Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
On Saturday 06 January 2001 11:53 pm, you wrote: There's more... Sound doesn't work, supermount doesn't work. Creating desktop devices for CDROM and my parallel zip drive works once, sort of. By this I mean, I can create a CDROM device on my desktop (or zip). If I select it, instead of the cdrom opening in konqueror, my home directory appears. I can then navigate over to the cdrom and view the contents. If I then exit konqueror and select the icon again, I get an error message that the device is busy - that mtab indicates that it is already mounted. Same thing happens with the zip drive. Damnit to hell! Back to 2.2.17. On Saturday 06 January 2001 21:12, you wrote: On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:06:35 -0700, you wrote: OK, fixed the one problem with kernel panic: I compiled IDE/ATA support into the kernel instead of the default as a module. Now the kernel installs and works but no sound. I get an error during bootup about not being able to load aumix - and sound in kde is toasted with 2.4.0. Same problem with me - system couldn't find ES1370 module (Ensoniq/Soundblaster) even though I compiled it into the kernel. Steve Stephen B. Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you gentlemen have sound support, (your hardware specifically) compiled directly into the kernel, or are you using the modules for your hardware. (sound cards) I've found it easier in the past to just support the specific hardware directly and turn most of the other card support if not all. I haven't figured out yet how they're doing it, (the developers) to get the modules to work from the factory as they do, but getting modules to work is a pain. -- Mark "If you don't share your concepts and ideals, they end up being worthless," "Sharing is what makes them powerful." Linus Torvalds
Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
** Reply to message from Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:06:35 -0700 OK, fixed the one problem with kernel panic: I compiled IDE/ATA support into the kernel instead of the default as a module. Now the kernel installs and works but no sound. I get an error during bootup about not being able to load aumix - and sound in kde is toasted with 2.4.0. Everyone complaining about not being able to find modules does realize modules have moved in 2.4 and requires some updated packages, specifically mod-utils? Instead of updating everything I went and compiled everything I needed directly into the kernel and I've been running fine since. John LeMay Jr. Senior Enterprise Consultant NJMC, LLC.
Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
Specifically mod-utils . . . and what else? According to the following URL: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/jandr/Mandrake.htm That is all which is needed. What other updated packages are necessary? I am also have the problems with finding modules! Oh, and what need to be done for Aurora to work with the new kernel? Thx, Robert Fox At 09:48 07/01/2001 -0500, you wrote: ** Reply to message from Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:06:35 -0700 OK, fixed the one problem with kernel panic: I compiled IDE/ATA support into the kernel instead of the default as a module. Now the kernel installs and works but no sound. I get an error during bootup about not being able to load aumix - and sound in kde is toasted with 2.4.0. Everyone complaining about not being able to find modules does realize modules have moved in 2.4 and requires some updated packages, specifically mod-utils? Instead of updating everything I went and compiled everything I needed directly into the kernel and I've been running fine since. John LeMay Jr. Senior Enterprise Consultant NJMC, LLC. ** (`..- F O X Consulting Services -..) Europe Voice: +49/(0)172-9600938Fax: +49/(0)89-9218 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] FCS Web Page: http://foxconsult.com USA Voice: +1 (650) 369-7369 Fax: +1 (650) 429-2122 **
Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
On Sunday 07 January 2001 11:02 am, you wrote: Specifically mod-utils . . . and what else? According to the following URL: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/jandr/Mandrake.htm That is all which is needed. What other updated packages are necessary? I am also have the problems with finding modules! Oh, and what need to be done for Aurora to work with the new kernel? Thx, Robert Fox I'm also having a problem with pppd. When I do the MandrakeUpdate, it tells me I can't dial out because I don't have pppd installed. Also, does someone know how to trim down the kernel boot menu. Mine's a mess now! :(
Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
Brian Hartman wrote: On Sunday 07 January 2001 11:02 am, you wrote: Specifically mod-utils . . . and what else? According to the following URL: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/jandr/Mandrake.htm That is all which is needed. What other updated packages are necessary? I am also have the problems with finding modules! Oh, and what need to be done for Aurora to work with the new kernel? Thx, Robert Fox I'm also having a problem with pppd. When I do the MandrakeUpdate, it tells me I can't dial out because I don't have pppd installed. Also, does someone know how to trim down the kernel boot menu. Mine's a mess now! :( did you install pppd-2.4.0? And according to the README.linux file you need to create a /dev/ppp device if you don't have one. mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0 chmod 600 /dev/ppp and you have to edit your /etc/modules.conf or /etc/conf.modules to contain the following: alias /dev/pppppp_generic alias char-major-108ppp_generic alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate That should do it.
Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
On Sunday 07 January 2001 12:51 pm, you wrote: It sounds as though you don't have the ppp support compiled into your kernel. Go back to the configuration and check to make sure it's turned on. I tried compiling it in, but that doesn't seem to do anything either. :(
Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
** Reply to message from Brian Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 7 Jan 2001 11:22:51 -0500 Also, does someone know how to trim down the kernel boot menu. Mine's a mess now! :( Depends on if you are using lilo or grub. I played with grub in 7.1 and couldn't stand it. Ran /sbin/lilo and did away with it. lilo's options are defined in /etc/lilo.conf. Try man lilo.conf. John LeMay Jr. Senior Enterprise Consultant NJMC, LLC.
Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
On Sunday 07 January 2001 02:20 pm, you wrote: Brian Hartman wrote: On Sunday 07 January 2001 11:02 am, you wrote: Specifically mod-utils . . . and what else? According to the following URL: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/jandr/Mandrake.htm That is all which is needed. What other updated packages are necessary? I am also have the problems with finding modules! Oh, and what need to be done for Aurora to work with the new kernel? Thx, Robert Fox I'm also having a problem with pppd. When I do the MandrakeUpdate, it tells me I can't dial out because I don't have pppd installed. Also, does someone know how to trim down the kernel boot menu. Mine's a mess now! :( did you install pppd-2.4.0? And according to the README.linux file you need to create a /dev/ppp device if you don't have one. mknod /dev/ppp c 108 0 chmod 600 /dev/ppp and you have to edit your /etc/modules.conf or /etc/conf.modules to contain the following: alias /dev/pppppp_generic alias char-major-108ppp_generic alias tty-ldisc-3 ppp_async alias tty-ldisc-14 ppp_synctty alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate alias ppp-compress-26 ppp_deflate That should do it. Hi, I followed the instructions here, but it still doesn't work for me. It's giving me an exit status of 1, even when I run kppp as root.
[expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
I remember seeing some messages (here?) not too long ago about "kernel panic: VFS unable to mount root filesystem" and builds of kernel-2.4.0. Well, I just built this kernel and get this when I try to boot it up. I don't have the messages anymore - they weren't applicable to anything I was doing at the time but now I wish I had kept a few. Can anyone enlighten me as to any special considerations when building 2.4.0 that I may be missing that might be causing this problem? The kernel and all modules built just fine and I really didn't select anything wierd - just a few more modules that were available vs the 2.2.x kernels and certainly nothing wierd concerning file systems. My partitions are ext2.
Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
OK, fixed the one problem with kernel panic: I compiled IDE/ATA support into the kernel instead of the default as a module. Now the kernel installs and works but no sound. I get an error during bootup about not being able to load aumix - and sound in kde is toasted with 2.4.0. On Saturday 06 January 2001 18:25, you wrote: I remember seeing some messages (here?) not too long ago about "kernel panic: VFS unable to mount root filesystem" and builds of kernel-2.4.0. Well, I just built this kernel and get this when I try to boot it up. I don't have the messages anymore - they weren't applicable to anything I was doing at the time but now I wish I had kept a few. Can anyone enlighten me as to any special considerations when building 2.4.0 that I may be missing that might be causing this problem? The kernel and all modules built just fine and I really didn't select anything wierd - just a few more modules that were available vs the 2.2.x kernels and certainly nothing wierd concerning file systems. My partitions are ext2. -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain Praedor
Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:06:35 -0700, you wrote: OK, fixed the one problem with kernel panic: I compiled IDE/ATA support into the kernel instead of the default as a module. Now the kernel installs and works but no sound. I get an error during bootup about not being able to load aumix - and sound in kde is toasted with 2.4.0. Same problem with me - system couldn't find ES1370 module (Ensoniq/Soundblaster) even though I compiled it into the kernel. Steve Stephen B. Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] kernel-2.4.0 bootup problem
There's more... Sound doesn't work, supermount doesn't work. Creating desktop devices for CDROM and my parallel zip drive works once, sort of. By this I mean, I can create a CDROM device on my desktop (or zip). If I select it, instead of the cdrom opening in konqueror, my home directory appears. I can then navigate over to the cdrom and view the contents. If I then exit konqueror and select the icon again, I get an error message that the device is busy - that mtab indicates that it is already mounted. Same thing happens with the zip drive. Damnit to hell! Back to 2.2.17. On Saturday 06 January 2001 21:12, you wrote: On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:06:35 -0700, you wrote: OK, fixed the one problem with kernel panic: I compiled IDE/ATA support into the kernel instead of the default as a module. Now the kernel installs and works but no sound. I get an error during bootup about not being able to load aumix - and sound in kde is toasted with 2.4.0. Same problem with me - system couldn't find ES1370 module (Ensoniq/Soundblaster) even though I compiled it into the kernel. Steve Stephen B. Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain Praedor
