Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear

2006-04-23 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/22/06 7:20:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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The Shah 
  had  a > difficult time getting a country to accept  
  him.>somethign about being as cruel as any other dictator, 
  IIRC.

More likely governments didn't want to get on the Sh*t list of 
the new Iranian Revolution and lose out on oil 
contracts.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear

2006-04-22 Thread bob_brigante




> The Shah 
> had  a 
> > difficult time getting a country to accept  him.
> >
> 


> somethign about being as cruel as any other dictator, IIRC.
>



Probably more like wanting to make nice with the new leaders of a 
major oil exporter.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear

2006-04-22 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 4/22/06 3:44:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> The mad Ayatollah was in exile  in Iraq.  The moron Shah requested 
Saddam 
> Hussain to deport Ayatollah and  Iraq obliged.
> 
> 
> I could have sworn the Ayatollah was exiled in France. Perhaps  
after 
> spending time in Iraq. And yes I do agree with this time line of 
the Shah  taking off 
> and the Ayatollah landing very quickly after. Seems I also 
remember  Carter 
> would not allow  the Shah to come to the US and stay. There might  
have been 
> some brief period to seek medical help but he definitely couldn't 
stay  and left 
> for Mexico and than back to Morocco and Egypt as I recall. The Shah 
had  a 
> difficult time getting a country to accept  him.
>

somethign about being as cruel as any other dictator, IIRC.










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear

2006-04-22 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/22/06 3:44:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   The mad Ayatollah was in exile 
  in Iraq.  The moron Shah requested Saddam Hussain to deport Ayatollah and 
  Iraq obliged.

I could have sworn the Ayatollah was exiled in France. Perhaps 
after spending time in Iraq. And yes I do agree with this time line of the Shah 
taking off and the Ayatollah landing very quickly after. Seems I also remember 
Carter would not allow  the Shah to come to the US and stay. There might 
have been some brief period to seek medical help but he definitely couldn't stay 
and left for Mexico and than back to Morocco and Egypt as I recall. The Shah had 
a difficult time getting a country to accept 
him.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear

2006-04-22 Thread Jason Spock



       The Shah himself was at the controls and flew the plane to Egypt and then to US.           The mad Ayatollah was in exile in Iraq.  The moron Shah requested Saddam Hussain to deport Ayatollah and Iraq obliged.     Within minutes after Shah took off for Egypt, Ayatollah landed in Tehran and took over.         The Peanut farming moron Carter didn't do much help either.  Sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:26:06 -0000Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear       Seems to me that the Shah got sick, fled to the USA and the Ayatollah took over about 2-3 years after this.   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear

2006-04-22 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>  
> In a message dated 4/22/06 9:36:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> >  Pardon for the spelling  error!
> 
> Absolvo  te.
> 
> I needed that

As do we all.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear

2006-04-22 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 4/22/06 9:27:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Obviously, they never did it. I wonder what stopped   it.
> >
> 
> Seems to me that the Shah got sick, fled to the USA and the  
Ayatollah 
> took over about 2-3 years after  this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, the Shah did get sick and deposed, but was that what  stopped 
him from 
> perusing this in 76. Did he put the brakes on before his  political 
problems 
> developed or did something else stop it? Your facts are not  quite 
accurate 
> though. Jimmy Carter would not let the Shah enter the US and the  
Ayatollah 
> Assahola took control of the revolution immediately, not years  
later.
>

Said it wrong: 2-3 years (2 actually) after the agreement the Shah 
took sick and the Ayatollah took over.



Generally it takes more than 2 years to bring new technology of that 
magnitute online in a 3rd world country. And in this case, half-built 
is almost worse than useless, so even if construction was well under 
way, it wouldn't have mattered until the most important stuff was 
installed, which wouldn't be until the last minute.











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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear

2006-04-22 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/22/06 9:36:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
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> 
  Pardon for the spelling  error!Absolvo 
te.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear

2006-04-22 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/22/06 9:27:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Obviously, they never did it. I wonder what stopped  
  it.>Seems to me that the Shah got sick, fled to the USA and the 
  Ayatollah took over about 2-3 years after 
this.

Yes, the Shah did get sick and deposed, but was that what 
stopped him from perusing this in 76. Did he put the brakes on before his 
political problems developed or did something else stop it? Your facts are not 
quite accurate though. Jimmy Carter would not let the Shah enter the US and the 
Ayatollah Assahola took control of the revolution immediately, not years 
later.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear

2006-04-22 Thread authfriend



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> In a message dated 4/22/06 9:08:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> U.S.  endorsed Iranian plans to build massive nuclear energy  industry
> 
> Did they ever  build it, under the  Shaw?
> 
> Pardon for the spelling  error!

Absolvo te.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear

2006-04-22 Thread sparaig



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 4/22/06 6:39:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> The Shah  was our ally...
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"   wrote:
> >
> > U.S. endorsed Iranian plans to build  massive nuclear energy 
industry
> > 
> > March 5, 2006 â€" In 1976,  President Gerald R. Ford signed a 
> directive 
> > that granted Iran the  opportunity to purchase U.S. built 
> reprocessing 
> > equipment and  facilities designed to extract plutonium from 
nuclear 
> > reactor  fuel.  
> 
> 
> 
> Obviously, they never did it. I wonder what stopped  it.
>

Seems to me that the Shah got sick, fled to the USA and the Ayatollah 
took over about 2-3 years after this.










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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear

2006-04-22 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 4/22/06 6:39:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The Shah 
  was our ally...--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> U.S. endorsed Iranian plans to build 
  massive nuclear energy industry> > March 5, 2006 – In 1976, 
  President Gerald R. Ford signed a directive > that granted Iran the 
  opportunity to purchase U.S. built reprocessing > equipment and 
  facilities designed to extract plutonium from nuclear > reactor 
  fuel.  

Obviously, they never did it. I wonder what stopped 
it.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. helped Iran go nuclear

2006-04-22 Thread sparaig



The Shah was our ally...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> U.S. endorsed Iranian plans to build massive nuclear energy industry
> 
> March 5, 2006 – In 1976, President Gerald R. Ford signed a 
directive 
> that granted Iran the opportunity to purchase U.S. built 
reprocessing 
> equipment and facilities designed to extract plutonium from nuclear 
> reactor fuel.  
> 
> When Gerald Ford assumed the Presidency in August 1974, the current 
> Vice President of the United States, Richard B Cheney served on the 
> transition team and later as Deputy Assistant to the President. In 
> November 1975, he was named Assistant to the President and White 
> House Chief of Staff, a position he held throughout the remainder 
of 
> the Ford Administration.[1] 
> 
> In August 1974, the current Secretary of Defense, Donald H. 
Rumsfeld 
> served as Chairman of the transition to the Presidency of Gerald R. 
> Ford. He then became Chief of Staff of the White House and a member 
> of the President's Cabinet (1974-1975)[2] and was the Ford 
> Administration's Secretary of Defense from 1975–1977.   
> 
> The current President of the World Bank, Paul Wolfowitz served in 
the 
> Arms Control and Disarmament Agency under President Gerald Ford.
[3]  
> Wolfowitz is considered as a prominent architect of the Bush 
> Doctrine, which has come to be identified with a policy that 
permits 
> pre-emptive war against potential aggressors before they are 
capable 
> of mounting attacks against the United States.  
> 
> According to Washington Post Staff Writer Dafna Linzer, "Ford's 
team 
> endorsed Iranian plans to build a massive nuclear energy industry, 
> but also worked hard to complete a multibillion-dollar deal that 
> would have given Tehran control of large quantities of plutonium 
and 
> enriched uranium – the two pathways to a nuclear bomb.  Either can 
be 
> shaped into the core of a nuclear warhead, and obtaining one or the 
> other is generally considered the most significant obstacle to 
would-
> be weopons builders."[4]
> 
> Read more at:
> http://teamliberty.net/id229.html
>











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