[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-26 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> -Nice Curtis!
> 
> I need to email you and reconnect.
> 
> From one unenlightened dude to another
> 
> Steve
> 

That would be great Steve, you were one of the most entertaining guys
at Sidhaland.  Unenlightened guys get the hottest chicks and don't let
anyone tell ya different!




> 
> -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
>  
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and 
> he 
> > > is the
> > > > > > "enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when 
> > > > > the "teacher" referred to you as a "student"...
> > > > 
> > > > Not at all.  The relationship was appropriately named. 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you just read the words "enlightened teacher" 
> and "aspirant" 
> > > as 
> > > > > words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is 
> > > easier to 
> > > > > see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I 
> > > enjoy, 
> > > > > refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of 
> > > events in 
> > > > > the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong 
> > > emotion. 
> > > > > I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those 
> words. 
> > > DS 
> > > > > doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-)
> > > > 
> > > > So not recognizing people's self proclaimed superior enlightened
> > > > status is a psychological problem that I have that Dr. Phil can 
> > > help
> > > > me with?  That is super news for me!
> > > > 
> > > Why is the self proclaimed status any different whether its 
> someone 
> > > calling themselves doctor because they did a thesis or med 
> school, 
> > > and graduated, or calling themselves enlightened because they did 
> > > self realization school, and graduated? Either way there has been 
> an 
> > > achievement, but so what? Life is full of achievements. Why are 
> > > either of them, the doc or the enlightened, or both of them, 
> > > considered "superior" as a result? And why not just recognize 
> them 
> > > for what they have accomplished? I don't get the issue with 
> that.:-)
> > >
> > 
> > David: "Thanks for deconstructing the notion that within teaching
> > enlightenment there is an inherent, unspoken position of authority 
> or
> > superiority. That was right on! Namaste, DS"
> > 
> > Me: I'll let David explain it to you since he is obviously much more
> > enlighteneder than you are (with the website and all).  If you pay
> > attention you may reach your next stage of enlightenmentedness 
> through
> > recognizing your relationship with his higher degree of
> > enlightendenessinment.  (That is unless your own psychological 
> sunburn
> > doesn't allow you to submit to your true relationship with him as
> > living a state of  less enlightnedernessinment than he has, you know
> > like an MD, so what's the problem?)
> > 
> > Meanwhile common dudes like me will just have to settle for our own
> > level of nonenlightenmentesque lives. Or is it 
> unenlightenmenedness? 
> > Either way you guys can work this one out amongst yourselves and I
> > wont worry my pretty little head about such lofty matters.
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread sgrayatlarge
-Nice Curtis!

I need to email you and reconnect.

>From one unenlightened dude to another

Steve


-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and 
he 
> > is the
> > > > > "enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...
> > > > > 
> > > > yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when 
> > > > the "teacher" referred to you as a "student"...
> > > 
> > > Not at all.  The relationship was appropriately named. 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > If you just read the words "enlightened teacher" 
and "aspirant" 
> > as 
> > > > words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is 
> > easier to 
> > > > see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I 
> > enjoy, 
> > > > refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of 
> > events in 
> > > > the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong 
> > emotion. 
> > > > I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those 
words. 
> > DS 
> > > > doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-)
> > > 
> > > So not recognizing people's self proclaimed superior enlightened
> > > status is a psychological problem that I have that Dr. Phil can 
> > help
> > > me with?  That is super news for me!
> > > 
> > Why is the self proclaimed status any different whether its 
someone 
> > calling themselves doctor because they did a thesis or med 
school, 
> > and graduated, or calling themselves enlightened because they did 
> > self realization school, and graduated? Either way there has been 
an 
> > achievement, but so what? Life is full of achievements. Why are 
> > either of them, the doc or the enlightened, or both of them, 
> > considered "superior" as a result? And why not just recognize 
them 
> > for what they have accomplished? I don't get the issue with 
that.:-)
> >
> 
> David: "Thanks for deconstructing the notion that within teaching
> enlightenment there is an inherent, unspoken position of authority 
or
> superiority. That was right on! Namaste, DS"
> 
> Me: I'll let David explain it to you since he is obviously much more
> enlighteneder than you are (with the website and all).  If you pay
> attention you may reach your next stage of enlightenmentedness 
through
> recognizing your relationship with his higher degree of
> enlightendenessinment.  (That is unless your own psychological 
sunburn
> doesn't allow you to submit to your true relationship with him as
> living a state of  less enlightnedernessinment than he has, you know
> like an MD, so what's the problem?)
> 
> Meanwhile common dudes like me will just have to settle for our own
> level of nonenlightenmentesque lives. Or is it 
unenlightenmenedness? 
> Either way you guys can work this one out amongst yourselves and I
> wont worry my pretty little head about such lofty matters.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread lurkernomore20002000
DS
I am often my own worst critic, so I certainly understand where you 
are coming from. (-:

 My use of the term "aspirant" was not meant derisively or 
> > > condescendingly. On the contrary, I used it as term of 
affection and  endearment to describe those on fire to realize the 
Divine.
> > 
> >Curits:
 I'll bet the people who look to you for advice about life take it 
> the way you mean it.  Guys like me are impossible to please when 
it comes to implied power relationships.  Since I have zero fire to 
realize  the Divine myself, I am not in your target market anyway.  
Thanks for the response. 

Lurk:
Hey, nice video on the "Forgiving the Teacher Deal"  I thought it 
dealt really well with the topic du jour.

lurk

> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and 
he 
> > is the
> > > > > "enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...
> > > > > 
> > > > yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when 
> > > > the "teacher" referred to you as a "student"...
> > > 
> > > Not at all.  The relationship was appropriately named. 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > If you just read the words "enlightened teacher" 
and "aspirant" 
> > as 
> > > > words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is 
> > easier to 
> > > > see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I 
> > enjoy, 
> > > > refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of 
> > events in 
> > > > the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong 
> > emotion. 
> > > > I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those 
words. 
> > DS 
> > > > doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-)
> > > 
> > > So not recognizing people's self proclaimed superior 
enlightened
> > > status is a psychological problem that I have that Dr. Phil 
can 
> > help
> > > me with?  That is super news for me!
> > > 
> > Why is the self proclaimed status any different whether its 
someone 
> > calling themselves doctor because they did a thesis or med 
school, 
> > and graduated, or calling themselves enlightened because they 
did 
> > self realization school, and graduated? Either way there has 
been an 
> > achievement, but so what? Life is full of achievements. Why are 
> > either of them, the doc or the enlightened, or both of them, 
> > considered "superior" as a result? And why not just recognize 
them 
> > for what they have accomplished? I don't get the issue with 
that.:-)
> >
> 
> David: "Thanks for deconstructing the notion that within teaching
> enlightenment there is an inherent, unspoken position of authority 
or
> superiority. That was right on! Namaste, DS"
> 
> Me: I'll let David explain it to you since he is obviously much 
more
> enlighteneder than you are (with the website and all).  If you pay
> attention you may reach your next stage of enlightenmentedness 
through
> recognizing your relationship with his higher degree of
> enlightendenessinment.  (That is unless your own psychological 
sunburn
> doesn't allow you to submit to your true relationship with him as
> living a state of  less enlightnedernessinment than he has, you 
know
> like an MD, so what's the problem?)
> 
> Meanwhile common dudes like me will just have to settle for our own
> level of nonenlightenmentesque lives. Or is it 
unenlightenmenedness? 
> Either way you guys can work this one out amongst yourselves and I
> wont worry my pretty little head about such lofty matters.
>
Huh? I still don't get where you are coming from. If you don't 
recognize enlightenment or self realization as valid states, then 
just say so. end of story. I am not putting you down or feeling 
superior to you, so who else is?:-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oneradiantbeing" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Right, a two way street, and metaphor is itself a metaphorical 
> notion - for a kind of knowing where the Knower cannot be separated 
> from what It knows - so, ultimately, we are not in a postion to know 
> anything with absolute certainty All activiity (and knowing) is 
> approximation & metaphor, occurs in the space of simple Being. 
Thanks 
> for deconstructing the notion that within teaching enlightenment 
> there is an inherent, unspoken position of authority or superiority. 
> That was right on! Namaste, DS
>
Yep, a party of one isn't a party...:-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and he 
> is the
> > > > "enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...
> > > > 
> > > yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when 
> > > the "teacher" referred to you as a "student"...
> > 
> > Not at all.  The relationship was appropriately named. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > If you just read the words "enlightened teacher" and "aspirant" 
> as 
> > > words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is 
> easier to 
> > > see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I 
> enjoy, 
> > > refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of 
> events in 
> > > the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong 
> emotion. 
> > > I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. 
> DS 
> > > doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-)
> > 
> > So not recognizing people's self proclaimed superior enlightened
> > status is a psychological problem that I have that Dr. Phil can 
> help
> > me with?  That is super news for me!
> > 
> Why is the self proclaimed status any different whether its someone 
> calling themselves doctor because they did a thesis or med school, 
> and graduated, or calling themselves enlightened because they did 
> self realization school, and graduated? Either way there has been an 
> achievement, but so what? Life is full of achievements. Why are 
> either of them, the doc or the enlightened, or both of them, 
> considered "superior" as a result? And why not just recognize them 
> for what they have accomplished? I don't get the issue with that.:-)
>

David: "Thanks for deconstructing the notion that within teaching
enlightenment there is an inherent, unspoken position of authority or
superiority. That was right on! Namaste, DS"

Me: I'll let David explain it to you since he is obviously much more
enlighteneder than you are (with the website and all).  If you pay
attention you may reach your next stage of enlightenmentedness through
recognizing your relationship with his higher degree of
enlightendenessinment.  (That is unless your own psychological sunburn
doesn't allow you to submit to your true relationship with him as
living a state of  less enlightnedernessinment than he has, you know
like an MD, so what's the problem?)

Meanwhile common dudes like me will just have to settle for our own
level of nonenlightenmentesque lives. Or is it unenlightenmenedness? 
Either way you guys can work this one out amongst yourselves and I
wont worry my pretty little head about such lofty matters. 









[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread oneradiantbeing
Right, a two way street, and metaphor is itself a metaphorical 
notion - for a kind of knowing where the Knower cannot be separated 
from what It knows - so, ultimately, we are not in a postion to know 
anything with absolute certainty All activiity (and knowing) is 
approximation & metaphor, occurs in the space of simple Being. Thanks 
for deconstructing the notion that within teaching enlightenment 
there is an inherent, unspoken position of authority or superiority. 
That was right on! Namaste, DS


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oneradiantbeing" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > I like to think of them as metaphors, not concrete, literal 
terms. 
> > Peace, DS
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and he 
> is 
> > the
> > > > "enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...
> > > > 
> > > yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when 
> > > the "teacher" referred to you as a "student"...
> > > 
> > > If you just read the words "enlightened teacher" and "aspirant" 
> as 
> > > words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is 
> easier 
> > to 
> > > see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I 
> enjoy, 
> > > refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of 
> events 
> > in 
> > > the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong 
> emotion. 
> > > I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those 
words. 
> DS 
> > > doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-)
> > >
> >
> Well its always a two way street, right? And if it isn't, they 
> aren't even metaphors...:-)
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and he 
is the
> > > "enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...
> > > 
> > yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when 
> > the "teacher" referred to you as a "student"...
> 
> Not at all.  The relationship was appropriately named. 
> 
> > 
> > If you just read the words "enlightened teacher" and "aspirant" 
as 
> > words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is 
easier to 
> > see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I 
enjoy, 
> > refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of 
events in 
> > the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong 
emotion. 
> > I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. 
DS 
> > doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-)
> 
> So not recognizing people's self proclaimed superior enlightened
> status is a psychological problem that I have that Dr. Phil can 
help
> me with?  That is super news for me!
> 
Why is the self proclaimed status any different whether its someone 
calling themselves doctor because they did a thesis or med school, 
and graduated, or calling themselves enlightened because they did 
self realization school, and graduated? Either way there has been an 
achievement, but so what? Life is full of achievements. Why are 
either of them, the doc or the enlightened, or both of them, 
considered "superior" as a result? And why not just recognize them 
for what they have accomplished? I don't get the issue with that.:-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread oneradiantbeing
I am often my own worst critic, so I certainly understand where you 
are coming from. (-:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oneradiantbeing"
>  wrote:
> >
> > My use of the term "aspirant" was not meant derisively or 
> > condescendingly. On the contrary, I used it as term of affection 
and 
> > endearment to describe those on fire to realize the Divine.
> 
> I'll bet the people who look to you for advice about life take it 
the
> way you mean it.  Guys like me are impossible to please when it 
comes
> to implied power relationships.  Since I have zero fire to realize 
the
> Divine myself, I am not in your target market anyway.  Thanks for 
the
> response. 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and he is 
the
> > > "enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest"
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > As far as dharshan goes, though, I don't count it as much. 
> > > > > In fact, I'm suspicious of it. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > AT LEAST SIX THOUSAND YEARS OF VEDIC TEACHINGS WOULD 
DISAGREE 
> > WITH 
> > > > > YOU. DARSHAN LITERALLY MEANS "COGNITION" AND REFERS TO THE 
> > > > > COMMUNICATION OF THE PARAMATMAN (SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS) OR 
> > ABSOLUTE 
> > > > > REALITY. SOME WOULD CALL IT THE PRESENCE OF GOD. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I saw some videos George DeForest linked us to from this 
site, 
> > of 
> > > > > David Spero, a guru, and there was little doubt for me the 
guy 
> > is 
> > > > > wired to something very powerful. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > just to clear up some little misinformation ... 
> > > > David is actually addressing comments that were made by
> > > > Bronte Baxter -to- New Morning; see: 
> > > > 
> > > >  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149851 
> > > > 
> > > > the youtube reference referred to is here:
> > > > 
> > > >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XL3rT7pCr8 
> > > > 
> > > >  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149419
> > > > 
> > > > check it out, its really good!
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oneradiantbeing" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I like to think of them as metaphors, not concrete, literal terms. 
> Peace, DS
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and he 
is 
> the
> > > "enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...
> > > 
> > yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when 
> > the "teacher" referred to you as a "student"...
> > 
> > If you just read the words "enlightened teacher" and "aspirant" 
as 
> > words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is 
easier 
> to 
> > see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I 
enjoy, 
> > refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of 
events 
> in 
> > the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong 
emotion. 
> > I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. 
DS 
> > doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-)
> >
>
Well its always a two way street, right? And if it isn't, they 
aren't even metaphors...:-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and he is the
> > "enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...
> > 
> yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when 
> the "teacher" referred to you as a "student"...

Not at all.  The relationship was appropriately named. 

> 
> If you just read the words "enlightened teacher" and "aspirant" as 
> words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is easier to 
> see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I enjoy, 
> refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of events in 
> the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong emotion. 
> I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. DS 
> doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-)

So not recognizing people's self proclaimed superior enlightened
status is a psychological problem that I have that Dr. Phil can help
me with?  That is super news for me!






>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread oneradiantbeing
I like to think of them as metaphors, not concrete, literal terms. 
Peace, DS

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and he is 
the
> > "enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...
> > 
> yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when 
> the "teacher" referred to you as a "student"...
> 
> If you just read the words "enlightened teacher" and "aspirant" as 
> words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is easier 
to 
> see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I enjoy, 
> refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of events 
in 
> the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong emotion. 
> I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. DS 
> doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-)
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and he is the
> "enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...
> 
yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when 
the "teacher" referred to you as a "student"...

If you just read the words "enlightened teacher" and "aspirant" as 
words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is easier to 
see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I enjoy, 
refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of events in 
the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong emotion. 
I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. DS 
doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "oneradiantbeing"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My use of the term "aspirant" was not meant derisively or 
> condescendingly. On the contrary, I used it as term of affection and 
> endearment to describe those on fire to realize the Divine.

I'll bet the people who look to you for advice about life take it the
way you mean it.  Guys like me are impossible to please when it comes
to implied power relationships.  Since I have zero fire to realize the
Divine myself, I am not in your target market anyway.  Thanks for the
response. 



> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and he is the
> > "enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > As far as dharshan goes, though, I don't count it as much. 
> > > > In fact, I'm suspicious of it. 
> > > > 
> > > > AT LEAST SIX THOUSAND YEARS OF VEDIC TEACHINGS WOULD DISAGREE 
> WITH 
> > > > YOU. DARSHAN LITERALLY MEANS "COGNITION" AND REFERS TO THE 
> > > > COMMUNICATION OF THE PARAMATMAN (SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS) OR 
> ABSOLUTE 
> > > > REALITY. SOME WOULD CALL IT THE PRESENCE OF GOD. 
> > > > 
> > > > I saw some videos George DeForest linked us to from this site, 
> of 
> > > > David Spero, a guru, and there was little doubt for me the guy 
> is 
> > > > wired to something very powerful. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > just to clear up some little misinformation ... 
> > > David is actually addressing comments that were made by
> > > Bronte Baxter -to- New Morning; see: 
> > > 
> > >  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149851 
> > > 
> > > the youtube reference referred to is here:
> > > 
> > >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XL3rT7pCr8 
> > > 
> > >  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149419
> > > 
> > > check it out, its really good!
> > >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread oneradiantbeing
My use of the term "aspirant" was not meant derisively or 
condescendingly. On the contrary, I used it as term of affection and 
endearment to describe those on fire to realize the Divine.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and he is the
> "enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest"
>  wrote:
> >
> > > As far as dharshan goes, though, I don't count it as much. 
> > > In fact, I'm suspicious of it. 
> > > 
> > > AT LEAST SIX THOUSAND YEARS OF VEDIC TEACHINGS WOULD DISAGREE 
WITH 
> > > YOU. DARSHAN LITERALLY MEANS "COGNITION" AND REFERS TO THE 
> > > COMMUNICATION OF THE PARAMATMAN (SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS) OR 
ABSOLUTE 
> > > REALITY. SOME WOULD CALL IT THE PRESENCE OF GOD. 
> > > 
> > > I saw some videos George DeForest linked us to from this site, 
of 
> > > David Spero, a guru, and there was little doubt for me the guy 
is 
> > > wired to something very powerful. 
> > 
> > 
> > just to clear up some little misinformation ... 
> > David is actually addressing comments that were made by
> > Bronte Baxter -to- New Morning; see: 
> > 
> >  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149851 
> > 
> > the youtube reference referred to is here:
> > 
> >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XL3rT7pCr8 
> > 
> >  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149419
> > 
> > check it out, its really good!
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
Great youtube videos.  He, he, we are all "aspirants" and he is the
"enlightened teacher".  Step right up, step right up...




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "george_deforest"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > As far as dharshan goes, though, I don't count it as much. 
> > In fact, I'm suspicious of it. 
> > 
> > AT LEAST SIX THOUSAND YEARS OF VEDIC TEACHINGS WOULD DISAGREE WITH 
> > YOU. DARSHAN LITERALLY MEANS "COGNITION" AND REFERS TO THE 
> > COMMUNICATION OF THE PARAMATMAN (SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS) OR ABSOLUTE 
> > REALITY. SOME WOULD CALL IT THE PRESENCE OF GOD. 
> > 
> > I saw some videos George DeForest linked us to from this site, of 
> > David Spero, a guru, and there was little doubt for me the guy is 
> > wired to something very powerful. 
> 
> 
> just to clear up some little misinformation ... 
> David is actually addressing comments that were made by
> Bronte Baxter -to- New Morning; see: 
> 
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149851 
> 
> the youtube reference referred to is here:
> 
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XL3rT7pCr8 
> 
>  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149419
> 
> check it out, its really good!
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero

2007-09-25 Thread george_deforest
> As far as dharshan goes, though, I don't count it as much. 
> In fact, I'm suspicious of it. 
> 
> AT LEAST SIX THOUSAND YEARS OF VEDIC TEACHINGS WOULD DISAGREE WITH 
> YOU. DARSHAN LITERALLY MEANS "COGNITION" AND REFERS TO THE 
> COMMUNICATION OF THE PARAMATMAN (SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS) OR ABSOLUTE 
> REALITY. SOME WOULD CALL IT THE PRESENCE OF GOD. 
> 
> I saw some videos George DeForest linked us to from this site, of 
> David Spero, a guru, and there was little doubt for me the guy is 
> wired to something very powerful. 


just to clear up some little misinformation ... 
David is actually addressing comments that were made by
Bronte Baxter -to- New Morning; see: 

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149851 

the youtube reference referred to is here:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XL3rT7pCr8 

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149419

check it out, its really good!