[FairfieldLife] The state of education :-)
SCHOOL DAYS We had a longer holiday than usual this year because the school was closed for altercations. All teachers at our school are certified. The headmaster caned me only on rear occasions. Our school is ventilated by hot currants. BOOKS AND WORDS A fairy tale is something that never happened a long time ago. In lbsen's Ghosts, Oswald dies of congenial syphilis. Shakespeare married Anne Hathaway, but he mostly lived at Windsor with his merry wives. This is quite usual with actors. Homer wrote the Oddity. Actually, Homer was not written by Homer but by another man of that name. John Milton wrote Paradise Lost. Then his wife died and he wrote Paradise Regained. An epitaph is a short sarcastic poem. Poetry is when every line starts with a capital letter and doesn't reach the right side of the page. Polonius was a mythical sausage. Letters in sloping type are in hysterics. Emphasis in reading is putting more distress in one place than another. An abstract noun is one that cannot be heard, seen, touched or smelled. GEOGRAPHY A consonant is a large piece of land surrounded by water. Britain has a temporary climate. In some rocks there are to be found the fossil footprints of fishes. The Andes are a race of people living in North America. The principal exports of Sweden are hired girls. The Dutch people use water power to drive their windmills. HISTORY King Arthur lived in the Age of Shivery. The wife of a duke is a dukky. Helen of Troy launched a thousand ships with her face. Alexander the Great conquered Persia, Egypt and Japan. Sadly he died with no hair. Magna Carta provided that no man should be hanged twice for the same offence. Joan of Arc was burned to a steak. Another Greek myth was Jason And The Golden Fleas. Joan of Arc was Noah's sister. Medieval people were violent. Murder during this period was nothing. Everybody killed somebody. Victims of the Black Death grew boobs on their necks. The King wore a scarlet robe trimmed with vermin. In the middle of the 18th-century, all the morons moved to Utah. Louis XVI was gelatined to death. Hitler's instrumentality of terror was the Gespacho. POLITICS When Caesar was assassinated, he is reported to have said Me too, Brutus! King John ground the people down under heavy taxis. President Carter faced the Iran Hostess Crisis. The U.S.S.R. and the U.S.A. became global in power, but Europe remained incontinent. SCIENCE AND MEDICINE If anyone should faint, put her head between the knees of the nearest medical man. Methane, a greenhouse gas, comes from the burning of trees and cows. A phlegmatic person is one who has chronic bronchitis. A circle is a figure with no corners and only one side. Al Chemy was a man who discovered chemistry. An advantage of an organism having both sexual and asexual reproduction in its lifecycle: twice as much reproducing. If you cross XY and XX chromosomes, you get XX (female), YY (male) and XY (undecided). Crude oil is a vicious substance. Vacuums are nothings. We only mention them to let them know we know they are there. To germinate is to become a naturalised German. The Earth makes a resolution every 24 hours. Pine is an example of a carnivorous tree. Clouds just keep circling the Earth around and around, and around. There is not much else to do. If teeth are not cleaned, plague is the result. Parallel lines never meet unless you bend one or both of them. RELIGION The Jews were a proud people, but always had trouble with unsympathetic Genitals. The seventh commandment is Thou shall not admit adultery. Solomon had 300 wives and 700 cucumbers. The Papal bull was a mad bull kept by the Pope in the Inquisition to trample on Protestants. The Philistines are islands in the Pacific. The end of the world will make a turning point in everyone's life. The natives of Macedonia did not believe in Paul, so he got stoned. Pompeii was destroyed by an overflow of saliva from the Vatican. ANIMALS An armadillo is an ornamental shrub. To keep milk from turning sour: keep it in the cow. Marsupials are poached animals. The adder is a poisonous snack. An octogenarian is an animal which has eight young at birth. One horsepower is the amount of energy it takes to drag a horse 500 feet in one second. The largest mammals are to be found in the sea because there is nowhere else to put them. GENERAL STUDIES As he walked through his room he heard the sound of heavy breeding. In the Middle Ages people lived in mud huts with rough mating on the floor. The 19th-century was when people stopped reproducing by hand and started reproducing by machine. Madame Pompadour gained in power while being placed under the king. Merchants appeared and roamed from town to town exposing themselves and organising big fairies in the countryside. The Mona Lisa was the most beautiful woman ever to be laid on canvas. A census taker is a man who goes from house to house increasing the population. Gonads are a tribe of wandering desert
[FairfieldLife] Bill Sands publishes article - Veda and Physiology
i liked Bill Sands, he was the head of Personel at MIU, back in the 1980's when i was on staff for a time he wrote an article, reported today (January 21, 2008) by Global Good News: Dr William Sands publishes article on connection between Vedic Literature and human physiology http://globalgoodnews.com/health-news-a.html?art=120095399513211942 The article itself appears in an Indian newspaper, and is available online here: http://indiapost.com/article/philosophy/1808/
[FairfieldLife] interesting website - santapixel.com
Hi, I heard about a new website called santapixel.com. A very interesting and entertaining website. You sign up for free. Click on ads, surf in web sites and earn points. Then you win gifts by points. While signing up, enter [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my username) as your reference. So both of us earn 50 points. See you - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[FairfieldLife] Re: interesting website - santapixel.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I heard about a new website called santapixel.com. A very interesting and entertaining website. You sign up for free. Click on ads, surf in web sites and earn points. Then you win gifts by points. While signing up, enter [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my username) as your reference. So both of us earn 50 points. See you Hi Adrian, As intriguing as the idea of earning points by watching ads on websites is, I decided not to go to the site you mentioned and sign up. Instead, I went to several well-known child porn- ography sites and entered your username as a sub- scriber. I'm sure this will help you to earn points as well, although of a slightly different kind, and possibly from law enforcement authorities. See you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Diirghatamas and ambiguous sandhi, part 2
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Just fooling around...) The great Diirghatamas (Long darkness?), son of Ucathya (Aucathyo Diirghatamaa [sic!] RSiH) has written the suuktas 140 through 164 of the first maNDala of Rgveda. One of the kewlest suuktas of the Rgveda, IMO, is, well, that suukta called asya-vaamasya (I 164). The famous Rco akSare -verse is the 39th one of that suukta. The second hemistich of that verse goes like this: samhitaa-paaTha (sentence-reading): yas tan na veda kim Rcaa kariSyati, ya it tad vidus ta ime samaasate. pada-paaTha (= word reading) i.e., without sandhi: yaH | tat | na | veda | kim | Rcaa | kariSyati | ye | it | tat | viduH | te | ime | samaasate | The interesting thing in that hemistich is that ignorance is presented by singular forms of the predicate verb and subject: He, who (yaH) that (tat) not (na) veda (knows) what [kind of] (kim) use shall he make [?aarrgghh: kariSyati?] of the verses (Rcaa: instrumental singular[?] from 'Rk', as in Rg-veda Rk + veda). OTOH, the state of Enlightenment(?) is presented by Diirghatamas using a plural sentence. IMO, only the verb form 'viduH' reveals that the sentence is in plural, because (I believe) also the sequence yaH (singular) | it | tat |... would result to the sandhi form ya it tat The form 'ye' (plural) becomes 'ya' if it's followed by any other vowel that *short* 'a'. So, why couldn't Diirgha use some other verse filler instead of 'it' (dictionary form: id), to make the subject of the sentence unambiguous? Well, I'm prolly reading way too much into that... id ind. Ved. (probably the neut. form of the pronom. base %{i} see 3. %{i} ; a particle of affirmation) even , just , only ; indeed , assuredly (especially , in strengthening an antithesis , e.g. % [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@asat} , as the gods wish it , thus indeed it will be RV. viii , 28 , 4 ; % [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@debhuH} , the enemies wishing indeed to hurt were in nowise able to hurt RV. i , 147 , 3). %{id} is often added to words expressing excess or exclusion (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] , every one indeed ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] , constantly indeed ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] , one only). At the beginning of sentences it often adds emphasis to pronouns , prepositions , particles (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] , thou indeed ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] , if indeed , c.) %{id} occurs often in the R2ig-veda and Atharva-veda , seldom in the Bra1hman2as , and its place is taken in classical Sanskr2it by %{eva} and other particles. As an example of the very very many inflectional forms of Sanskrit verbs: kR 1 Ved. I. cl. 2. P. 2. sg. %{ka4rSi} du. %{kRtha4s} pl. % {kRtha4} ; A1. 2. sg. %{kRSe4} ; impf. 2. and 3. sg. %{a4kar} , 3. sg. rarely %{a4kat} (S3Br. iii , xi) [301,1] ; 3. du. %{a4kartAm} ; pl. %{a4karma} , %{a4karta} (also BhP. ix) , %{a4kran} (aor. , according to Pa1n2. 4-2 , 80 Ka1s3.) ; A1. %{a4kri} (RV. x , 159 , 4 and 174 , 4) , %{a4kRthAs} (RV. v , 30 , 8) , %{a4kRta} (RV.) ; % {akrAtAm} (S3a1n3khS3r.) , %{a4krata} (RV. AV.): Impv. %{kRdhi4} (also MBh. i , 5141 and BhP. viii) , %{kRta4m} , %{kRta4} ; A1. % {kRSva4} , %{kRdhva4m} ; Subj. 2. and 3. sg. %{kar} pl. %{ka4rma} , % {ka4rta} and %{kartana} , %{kran} ; A1. 3. sg. %{kRta} (RV. ix , 69 , 5) , 3. pl. %{kra4nta} (RV. i , 141 , 3): Pot. %{kriyAma} (RV. x , 32 , 9) ; pr. p. P. (nom. pl.) %{kra4ntas} A1. %{krANa4}. II. cl. 1. P. %{ka4rasi} , %{ka4rati} , %{ka4rathas} , %{ka4ratas} , % {ka4ranti} ; A1. %{ka4rase} , %{ka4rate} , %{ka4rAmahe}: impf. % {a4karam} , %{a4karas} , %{a4karat} (aor. , according to Pa1n2. 3- 1 , 59): Impv. %{ka4ra} , %{ka4ratam} , %{ka4ratAm}: Subj. % {ka4ram} , %{ka4rANi} , %{ka4ras} , %{ka4rat} , %{ka4rAma} , % {ka4ran} ; A1. %{karAmahai} ; pr. p. (f.) %{ka4rantI} (Naigh.) III. cl. 5. P. %{kRNo4mi} , %{-No4Si} , %{-No4ti} , %{kRNutha4s} , % {kRNma4s} and %{kRNmasi} , %{kRNutha4} , %{kRNva4nti} ; A1. % {kRNve4} , %{kRNuSe4} , %{kRNute4} , 3. du. %{kRNvai4te} (RV. vi , 25 , 4) ; pl. %{kRNma4he} , %{kRNva4te}: impf. %{a4kRNos} , % {a4kRNot} , %{a4kRNutam} , %{a4kRNuta} and %{-Notana} (RV. i , 110 , 8) , %{a4kRNvan} ; A1. 3. sg. %{a4kRNuta} pl. %{a4kRNudhvam} , % {a4kRNvata}: Impv. %{kRNu4} or %{kRNuhi4} or %{kRNutA4t} , % {kRNo4tu} , %{kRNuta4m} , %{kRNutA4m} , 2. pl. %{kRNuta4} or % {kRNo4ta} or %{kRNo4tana} , 3. pl. %{kRNva4ntu} ; A1. %{kRNuSva4} , % {kRNutA4m} , %{kRNvA4thAm} , %{kRNudhva4m}: Subj. %{kRNa4vas} , %{- Na4vat} or %{-Na4vAt} , %{kRNa4vAva} , %{-Na4vAma} , %{-Na4vAtha} , % {-Na4vatha} , %{-Na4van} ; A1. %{kRNa4vai} (once %{-NavA} RV. x , 95 , 2) , %{kRNavase} (also S3vetUp. ii , 7 v.l. %{-Nvase}) , % {kRNavate} , %{kRNa4vAvahai} , %{kRNa4vAmahai} , 3. pl. % {kRNa4vanta} (RV.) or %{kRNavante} or %{kRNvata} (RV.): Pot. A1. % {kRNvIta4} ; pr. p. P. %{kRNva4t} (f. %{-vatI4}) A1. %{kRNvANa4}. IV) cl. 8 (this is the usual formation in the Bra1hman2as ; Su1tras , and
[FairfieldLife] Re: OT: Anybody have a clue why CNN.com keeps changing the picture?
The Secret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everytime I go and refresh CNN.com's homepage I see a different picture for Actor Heath Ledger dead I haven't noticed that sort of presentation before. I wonder if it's part of the CNN.com initiative to make the site interactive. its a developing story; i'd guess they update the pictures as they get better ones; when i looked just now, the pic was Heath Ledgers dad in mourning. ... Nearer They God to Thee when the nukes fly is probably lost in the dust. CNN.com has been pretty upbeat with Osama's son telling his father Don't kill innocents and and Lou Dobbs the populist. Perhaps the Gaia Hypothesis is in operation. Of course Dr. John would see this as the result of us but I'm not sure if we're the horse pulling the carriage or the carriage propelling the horse. if Dr John gives credit to the tm-sidhas in the dome, its only because more silence in world consciousness should cause improved current events. i think that would be so, even if no group took credit for it; its an evolving world regardless of the course you're on. Like the vedic story of Vishnu (or is it Shiva?) lifting up a mountain, and all the villagers took credit for helping by raising up their sticks. And the lord indulged their desire. Pure consiousness is the ground state of all creation, it doesnt need anybody's help; but the TMO will pat you on the back, just to encourage you to do more programs; it is after all Kali Yuga, so there's lots of serious temptation to not meditate. a little ego stroking might get you to meditate or hop around that much longer. its a kind of compassion from the TMO to the TB's (true believers), imo
[FairfieldLife] Shemp'sLaw re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know Yeah, evidently is more to know about this. I asked around of kids of her age and found one who knew her and went to school with her. There is a story there. So is it a story she wants told or kept private? Ask her around. Evidently was close to guys on the Purusha program too. Some of them might help with the know. Are people on the movement's Mother Divine program campus students or just paying volunteers? They seem to be included in the numbers of students as those numbers get touted. Shemp's law generally makes for a legitimate public welfare interest in this: always the question of a person in an institution who is in a position of authority and whether they are taking advantage of an underling, be it a student or an employee or a potential employee or student. (spouse of any or trustee or director or co-worker) Was Hagelin in a position of authority at the time? Well, even if he wasn't, he was by virtue of being John Hagelin and this being the TMO. Was she a student? Someone posted here that she wasn't...but was she in the TMO? An employee...potential employee or student? Sorry, these things come into play. -Yes, proly is law as well as regulation about this. OR are the ethics standards at MUM just in the same category as their accounting standard. Their own generally accepted practices and standards etc. They have no ethic standard in practice, or am I missing something on their web-page? MUM receives US Federal funding of any kind? Truth will proly prevail in this i pray for all their good health and well-being with it. -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sex Scandaled Megachurch Rating falls in Tao Jones Shakti Indices....
Simply a tragic loss in Tao rating: At its peak in the early 1990s, it claimed about 10,000 members and 24 pastors and was a media powerhouse. By soliciting tithes of 10 percent from each member's income, the church was able to build a Bible college, two schools, a worldwide TV ministry and a $12 million sanctuary the size of a fortress. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/20/national/main3525820.shtml Today membership is down to about 1,500, the church has 18 pastors, most of them volunteers, and the Bible college and TV ministry have shuttered - a downturn blamed largely on complaints about the sexual scandals. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Index Rating of Atlanta Mega-church falls in Tao-Jones Index of Shakti Sex Scandal Rocks Megachurch. Pastor Who Fathered Child By His Brother's Wife Caught Lying Under Oath About It At its peak in the early 1990s, it claimed about 10,000 members and 24 pastors and was a media powerhouse. By soliciting tithes of 10 percent from each member's income, the church was able to build a Bible college, two schools, a worldwide TV ministry and a $12 million sanctuary the size of a fortress. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/20/national/main3525820.shtml Today membership is down to about 1,500, the church has 18 pastors, most of them volunteers, and the Bible college and TV ministry have shuttered - a downturn blamed largely on complaints about the sexual scandals. http://www.mdjonline.com/content/index/showcontentitem/area/1/section/ 21/item/103065.html This is a cult. And you escape from a cult, she said. We all escaped. These days, Earl Paulk has a much-reduced role at the cathedral, giving 10-minute lectures as part of Sunday morning worship each week. My uncle is 100 percent guilty, but his accusers are guilty as well, D.E. Paulk said, declining to talk further about the lawsuits. dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Om, how bout a Tao Jones Index of spiritual experience for spiritual movements, gurus, preachers, llamas, ayatollahs, saints and spiritual healers, places? The Tao Jones Index of shakti, for spiritual energy, experience. Something like a shakti meter of spiritual experience. Could be sector indexes. Relgions, countries, region, spiritual practices. The Gov't of Bhutan apparently has an index of 'happiness' that they keep. Being a Buddhist country, would be an index of `no=thing'? The Tao Jones Index of Shakti for spiritual energy, experience. Something like a shakti meter of spiritual experience. dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: FW: This is pretty incredible. Did you see the array of people involved? Many in the first category are from UK and US; in the next are more from Japan, Thailand and India; and in the last - most from Asia. There is a Muslim one noted, I didn't see that they do a Christian one. We have a recording of a 2 hour program that we saw on TV called In the name of God put together by two brothers who were in the World Trade Center vicinity on 9/11 and began asking themselves questions about how this could happen in the name of God. They visited and spent a day with leaders of many religions - India, China, Japan, the two Muslim sects, the Pope, the heads of the Lutheran, evangelistic Lutheran, Anglicans and Baptist churches. Your hugger was one of them. Very interesting. The only one who was scary was the Baptist - that man is so narrow, focused, and feels he is so right - the Jihadists of the Christians. Common themes: - Respect for the humanity of others - Provide structure - something that people seek - Get happiness from the happiness of others - Honesty, contentment, patience Reality - hunger and disease kill far more than terrorists, stated one of the Christian leaders. [ editorial: Wars kill far more than terrorists. Think about it, we, the United States, have caused the killing of far more people in Afghanistan and Iraq than terrorists have killed in all the attacks in Europe and the US in 2 decades.] As the show went on they noted the size of each religion's population - also very interesting. Global Population ~ 6 Billion Catholics 1 billion Suni 940 m Shea 120 m Hindu900 m Orthodox350 m Buddhists 340 m Baptists 70 m Lutherans 60 m Evan. Luth 40 m Anglicans?? m (I didn't write it down, but around 30 m as I remember) Sikhs 23 m Jews14 m Not accounted for 2 billion Subject: Dow Jones Dharma Index http://www.primenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=134246 Rama Krishna aram_1903@ wrote:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
--- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nadarrombus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was interested in if he was sexing a student as a teacher, just as a wonder about his personality in relation to his status within the tm org. Using her name was a shitty trick. It was unnecessary for your point. no, bro i get all the sex i want and i dont have some shitty problem with sex or whatever- I am interested in the whatever part. What deviance does this refer to? Is this why you don't use your name here? So you are the product of MUM's writing department huh? I'd say the university has bigger problems than Haglein banging the student body. He writes like many young (12-16yrs) students: a stream of consciousness filled with misspellings and no punctuation. I think it comes about from constant texting. And if he is a product of MUM, good Lord, MUM does have a much bigger problem than John banging his students! In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest george.deforest@ wrote: nadarrombus royboyunity@ wrote: the girl is catherine coffee. twenty something... in her twenties ... not exactly jail bait more like consenting adult, bro she was having sex with him ... so what right, exactly: so what! (as you yourself know, right?) but his character is it worth a shit. and now so is yours, for posting this kind of malicious gossip; you damage the rep of both dr. john and the girl; and i cant imagine why ... oh wait: they have sex, but you didnt; that must really piss you off, she consented to him but not to you. is that it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of a friend has inoperable cancer. Does anyone know of a residential cancer treatment center that follows a natural or holistic approach? She's not expecting a miracle cure... ...then she should. Aim for the centre of the darts board. The Bristol Cancer Self Help Centre has an excellent reputation - it even received a poisonous attack from some allopathic forces of evil in London - alwas a good sign. It has the special benefit of needing to visit Bristol, a fine place to go to. http://www.pennybrohncancercare.org/ Uns.
[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
I would say that it's none of your business, and that the anonymous post mentioning this woman by name should be removed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dhamiltony2k5 Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know Yeah, evidently is more to know about this. I asked around of kids of her age and found one who knew her and went to school with her. There is a story there. So is it a story she wants told or kept private? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp'sLaw re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
I find the idea of older men inquiring around town about the sex life of a young woman disgusting. Mind your own business, Doug. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know Yeah, evidently is more to know about this. I asked around of kids of her age and found one who knew her and went to school with her. There is a story there. So is it a story she wants told or kept private? Ask her around. Evidently was close to guys on the Purusha program too. Some of them might help with the know. Are people on the movement's Mother Divine program campus students or just paying volunteers? They seem to be included in the numbers of students as those numbers get touted. Shemp's law generally makes for a legitimate public welfare interest in this: always the question of a person in an institution who is in a position of authority and whether they are taking advantage of an underling, be it a student or an employee or a potential employee or student. (spouse of any or trustee or director or co-worker) Was Hagelin in a position of authority at the time? Well, even if he wasn't, he was by virtue of being John Hagelin and this being the TMO. Was she a student? Someone posted here that she wasn't...but was she in the TMO? An employee...potential employee or student? Sorry, these things come into play. -Yes, proly is law as well as regulation about this. OR are the ethics standards at MUM just in the same category as their accounting standard. Their own generally accepted practices and standards etc. They have no ethic standard in practice, or am I missing something on their web-page? MUM receives US Federal funding of any kind? Truth will proly prevail in this i pray for all their good health and well-being with it. -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Barry Wright's well-known child pornography sites
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Price a.price79@ wrote: Hi, I heard about a new website called santapixel.com. A very interesting and entertaining website. You sign up for free. Click on ads, surf in web sites and earn points. Then you win gifts by points. While signing up, enter a.price79@ (my username) as your reference. So both of us earn 50 points. See you Hi Adrian, As intriguing as the idea of earning points by watching ads on websites is, I decided not to go to the site you mentioned and sign up. Instead, I went to several well-known child porn- ography sites and entered your username as a sub- scriber. I'm sure this will help you to earn points as well, although of a slightly different kind, and possibly from law enforcement authorities. See you. 1) I've been on the internet for 10 years and although I am aware of the concept of child pornography and that it appears somewhere on the internet, I wouldn't know where to look for a child pornography site EVEN IF I GOOGLED IT. Yet Barry Wright is familiar enough with child pornography that he knows which ones are well-known. H. 2) Adrian has committed the terrible crime of forum spamming (see http://tinyurl.com/2eb8sk). How horrible. Adrian is wasting our time by making pocket money. Kinda like the solicitations we all used to get in the '70s and '80s by recently recruited Amway salesmen trying to get us to go to one of their pep rallies to sign us up so that we become part of their downline. The difference here, of course, is that Adrian wastes about 5 seconds of my time as I read his silly post whereby the Amway people used to waste about 5 hours of my time if I got suckered into going to one of their meetings (it happened to me at least twice with Amway and about 3 times with other multi-level marketing solicitations). 3) In punishment for his crime, Barry Wright has put Adrian into a position of actually being accused of a very real crime (can you say Pete Townsend?). He has done what is probably the meanest, lowest thing that can be done on the internet: he has pretended to be someone he is not and misrepresented another person's username. And not just anywhere but feeding it into a child pornography site, a place that I would assume Adrian has never, ever visited nor has a desire to visit. Barry has framed Adrian. Barry has become upset because Adrian wasted about 5 seconds of Barry's time and has therefore deemed it justice that to put Adrian in a very real position of having to deal with authorities is equivalent to what Adrian did to Barry. If I were Adrian, I would, instead, alert said authorities to Barry's crime which was (1) identity theft; and (2) identity theft for the purpose of framing another.
[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It truly is an attempt to defame and should be removed. Interesting from Vaj. How many of his anti-TM posts would be regarded as attempt to defame ? If they were to be removed it would't leave many of his posts in, IMO.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp'sLaw re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:52 AM, feste37 wrote: I find the idea of older men inquiring around town about the sex life of a young woman disgusting. Mind your own business, Doug. Amen, feste. Finally, something you and I can agree on. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] So you are the product of MUM's writing department huh? I'd say the university has bigger problems than Haglein banging the student body. [snip] I went to MIU at the same time as Curtis. There is someone whom we both went to MIU with who then became a well- known militant ex-TMer who was virtually illiterate when he first came to MIU as a teenager for our freshman class. He could not correctly spell any word larger than three letters nor put together a sentence on paper. And that's not hype, that's fact. Yet to his credit (alot of hard work, determination, and persistence) he overcame his handicap...to the point where he was literate enough that he became a writer of sorts: HE DOCUMENTED THROUGH HIS WRITING HIS HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE WITH THE TM CULT. Yet it was MIU that enabled him to become literate. This individual didn't overcome his illiteracy by himself. Because it was the staff and faculty of MIU that worked with him so that he overcame his illiteracy. Funny, isn't it; MIU provided the very education and skills that enabled this person to have the very petard he most eagerly and willingly employed against MIU, Maharishi, and the TMO. Fine. Free speech and all; he's entitled to express his opinions and views against the Movement. But I'd like to see him at the same time give MIU credit for giving him a chance in the first place by accepting an obviously unqualified person as a student as well as then working with him so that he became literate. And please don't anyone counter by saying that MIU did it for their own interests because they were desperately in need of students and would have accepted anyone. This person enrolled in the fall of 1975, the year that MIU had over 350 students enrolled and, if anything, they couldn't keep up with the overflow.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp'sLaw re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find the idea of older men inquiring around town about the sex life of a young woman disgusting. Mind your own business, Doug. Rick Archer is also in the business of not minding his own business. Perhaps Fairfield simply is a very boring place to be...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp'sLaw re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
Actually, I've been getting to like you for a while . . . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:52 AM, feste37 wrote: I find the idea of older men inquiring around town about the sex life of a young woman disgusting. Mind your own business, Doug. Amen, feste. Finally, something you and I can agree on. Sal
RE: [FairfieldLife] Is Andrew Cohen a dangerous cult leader?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tanhlnx Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Is Andrew Cohen a dangerous cult leader? HYPERLINK http://www.whatenlightenment.blogspot.com/http://www.whatenlightenment.blo gspot.com/ I bounced this off a dear, respected friend who is very involved with Andrew Cohen and he said: Hi Rick, This is very old stuff, I know the blog and I know well some of its stars. I think the HYPERLINK http://www.andrewcohen.org/blog/index.php?/blog/post/declaration-of-integri ty/best response to this blog was given by Andrew himself. (“Best Response” link points to http://www.andrewcohen.org/blog/index.php?/blog/post/declaration-of-integrit y/) No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Wright's well-known child pornography sites
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Price a.price79@ wrote: Hi, I heard about a new website called santapixel.com. A very interesting and entertaining website. You sign up for free. Click on ads, surf in web sites and earn points. Then you win gifts by points. While signing up, enter a.price79@ (my username) as your reference. So both of us earn 50 points. See you Hi Adrian, As intriguing as the idea of earning points by watching ads on websites is, I decided not to go to the site you mentioned and sign up. Instead, I went to several well-known child porn- ography sites and entered your username as a sub- scriber. I'm sure this will help you to earn points as well, although of a slightly different kind, and possibly from law enforcement authorities. See you. 1) I've been on the internet for 10 years and although I am aware of the concept of child pornography and that it appears somewhere on the internet, I wouldn't know where to look for a child pornography site EVEN IF I GOOGLED IT. Yet Barry Wright is familiar enough with child pornography that he knows which ones are well-known. H. 2) Adrian has committed the terrible crime of forum spamming (see http://tinyurl.com/2eb8sk). How horrible. Adrian is wasting our time by making pocket money. Kinda like the solicitations we all used to get in the '70s and '80s by recently recruited Amway salesmen trying to get us to go to one of their pep rallies to sign us up so that we become part of their downline. The difference here, of course, is that Adrian wastes about 5 seconds of my time as I read his silly post whereby the Amway people used to waste about 5 hours of my time if I got suckered into going to one of their meetings (it happened to me at least twice with Amway and about 3 times with other multi-level marketing solicitations). 3) In punishment for his crime, Barry Wright has put Adrian into a position of actually being accused of a very real crime (can you say Pete Townsend?). He has done what is probably the meanest, lowest thing that can be done on the internet: he has pretended to be someone he is not and misrepresented another person's username. And not just anywhere but feeding it into a child pornography site, a place that I would assume Adrian has never, ever visited nor has a desire to visit. Barry has framed Adrian. Barry has become upset because Adrian wasted about 5 seconds of Barry's time and has therefore deemed it justice that to put Adrian in a very real position of having to deal with authorities is equivalent to what Adrian did to Barry. If I were Adrian, I would, instead, alert said authorities to Barry's crime which was (1) identity theft; and (2) identity theft for the purpose of framing another. Of course I didn't really DO what I said I did. That's just my standard response to spammers, to make them think about what they risk by posting their email addresses to people whose privacy they have invaded with their spam. But it's interesting that Shemp has gotten his panties in a twist over this. Maybe he's worried that some of his favorite sites will get shut down. I mean, this IS the guy who's ga-ga over Juno and Vanessa Paradis and other jailbait, if I remember correctly. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Egypt and Palestine -- Potential good new?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/01/23/israel.gaza/index.html If you read The Haj by Leon Uris you'll learn that the Israelis wanted to offer their great prosperity to the people already there and live together in peace. You go your way, I'll go mine, we'll share the prosperity. Saudi Arabia and Jordan stirred the shit by forming a pan-Arab pact to expel all of the Palestinian refuges and to prevent them from entering their borders. The Palestinians, historically nomadic, would have been happy to stay in Egypt or wherever. So, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, if you call these people your Arab brothers, show the world just how you treat brothers and we'll have an end to the Middle East problem in a few months. I am not speaking out of a pro-Israel agenda, I'm just pro putting your hospitality where your mouth is. And I'd like the full history of this mess to be clear to all. This area is very intimate to me because I spend a lot of time there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Wright's well-known child pornography sites
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Price a.price79@ wrote: Hi, I heard about a new website called santapixel.com. A very interesting and entertaining website. You sign up for free. Click on ads, surf in web sites and earn points. Then you win gifts by points. While signing up, enter a.price79@ (my username) as your reference. So both of us earn 50 points. See you Hi Adrian, As intriguing as the idea of earning points by watching ads on websites is, I decided not to go to the site you mentioned and sign up. Instead, I went to several well-known child porn- ography sites and entered your username as a sub- scriber. I'm sure this will help you to earn points as well, although of a slightly different kind, and possibly from law enforcement authorities. See you. 1) I've been on the internet for 10 years and although I am aware of the concept of child pornography and that it appears somewhere on the internet, I wouldn't know where to look for a child pornography site EVEN IF I GOOGLED IT. Yet Barry Wright is familiar enough with child pornography that he knows which ones are well-known. H. 2) Adrian has committed the terrible crime of forum spamming (see http://tinyurl.com/2eb8sk). How horrible. Adrian is wasting our time by making pocket money. Kinda like the solicitations we all used to get in the '70s and '80s by recently recruited Amway salesmen trying to get us to go to one of their pep rallies to sign us up so that we become part of their downline. The difference here, of course, is that Adrian wastes about 5 seconds of my time as I read his silly post whereby the Amway people used to waste about 5 hours of my time if I got suckered into going to one of their meetings (it happened to me at least twice with Amway and about 3 times with other multi-level marketing solicitations). 3) In punishment for his crime, Barry Wright has put Adrian into a position of actually being accused of a very real crime (can you say Pete Townsend?). He has done what is probably the meanest, lowest thing that can be done on the internet: he has pretended to be someone he is not and misrepresented another person's username. And not just anywhere but feeding it into a child pornography site, a place that I would assume Adrian has never, ever visited nor has a desire to visit. Barry has framed Adrian. Barry has become upset because Adrian wasted about 5 seconds of Barry's time and has therefore deemed it justice that to put Adrian in a very real position of having to deal with authorities is equivalent to what Adrian did to Barry. If I were Adrian, I would, instead, alert said authorities to Barry's crime which was (1) identity theft; and (2) identity theft for the purpose of framing another. Of course I didn't really DO what I said I did. That's just my standard response to spammers, to make them think about what they risk by posting their email addresses to people whose privacy they have invaded with their spam. But it's interesting that Shemp has gotten his panties in a twist over this. Maybe he's worried that some of his favorite sites will get shut down. I mean, this IS the guy who's ga-ga over Juno and Vanessa Paradis and other jailbait, if I remember correctly. :-) Juno is pushing $100 million box office domestically. Vanessa Paradis -- who is about 32 years old now -- sells millions of CDs worldwide. Ellen Page is 20 years old. These kinds of successes don't happen just because they appeal to the pedophile demographic but because they have universal appeal. Hard for Barry to imagine but it is possible to enjoy the acting and singing talents of young women for something other than their naked bodies (Hmmm...wasn't it Barry who recently waxed enthusiastically on this very forum about the joys of dating younger women? And now he's telling us of his familiarity with pedophile sites?)
[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
We had an excellent writing program our first year at MIU. They really emphasized it and taught me the mantra writing is rewriting. Of course I know who you are talking about. If you are trying to say that because MIU had some good educational programs then the movement should be excused from any other coercive behavior, then you are expressing a feature of dysfunctional relationships. In a personal setting loving someone doesn't give you any rights for abuse. No group is all bad or all good. Even the most undisputed cults have some good especially in their into courses. That is not the point. I don't suppose you ever met with families desperate to have contact with their kids who had disappeared into a group, so you may not imagine the emotional cost to a family. His work is about reconnecting families with lost kids. It was not an attack on the movement. If the movement took it as an attack it might have been because the shoe fit a bit too much. Identifying cult tactics in a group should have been an invitation to knock it off. But the antidote is information, and now that the information is available, people can make their own choices. That is a good thing IMO. Now with the Rajas in the open and TM involvement dying off, the whole cult topic is kinda dead concerning TM. But there are other vibrant and much more dangerous groups now and the information of how people's beliefs change in a social setting is important knowledge. The 19 hijackers were well educated men. How did they adapt a belief in suicide? These are important questions and thought reform theory helps us understand. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: [snip] So you are the product of MUM's writing department huh? I'd say the university has bigger problems than Haglein banging the student body. [snip] I went to MIU at the same time as Curtis. There is someone whom we both went to MIU with who then became a well- known militant ex-TMer who was virtually illiterate when he first came to MIU as a teenager for our freshman class. He could not correctly spell any word larger than three letters nor put together a sentence on paper. And that's not hype, that's fact. Yet to his credit (alot of hard work, determination, and persistence) he overcame his handicap...to the point where he was literate enough that he became a writer of sorts: HE DOCUMENTED THROUGH HIS WRITING HIS HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE WITH THE TM CULT. Yet it was MIU that enabled him to become literate. This individual didn't overcome his illiteracy by himself. Because it was the staff and faculty of MIU that worked with him so that he overcame his illiteracy. Funny, isn't it; MIU provided the very education and skills that enabled this person to have the very petard he most eagerly and willingly employed against MIU, Maharishi, and the TMO. Fine. Free speech and all; he's entitled to express his opinions and views against the Movement. But I'd like to see him at the same time give MIU credit for giving him a chance in the first place by accepting an obviously unqualified person as a student as well as then working with him so that he became literate. And please don't anyone counter by saying that MIU did it for their own interests because they were desperately in need of students and would have accepted anyone. This person enrolled in the fall of 1975, the year that MIU had over 350 students enrolled and, if anything, they couldn't keep up with the overflow.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Wright's well-known child pornography sites
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Price a.price79@ wrote: Hi, I heard about a new website called santapixel.com. A very interesting and entertaining website. You sign up for free. Click on ads, surf in web sites and earn points. Then you win gifts by points. While signing up, enter a.price79@ (my username) as your reference. So both of us earn 50 points. See you Hi Adrian, As intriguing as the idea of earning points by watching ads on websites is, I decided not to go to the site you mentioned and sign up. Instead, I went to several well-known child porn- ography sites and entered your username as a sub- scriber. I'm sure this will help you to earn points as well, although of a slightly different kind, and possibly from law enforcement authorities. See you. 1) I've been on the internet for 10 years and although I am aware of the concept of child pornography and that it appears somewhere on the internet, I wouldn't know where to look for a child pornography site EVEN IF I GOOGLED IT. Yet Barry Wright is familiar enough with child pornography that he knows which ones are well-known. H. 2) Adrian has committed the terrible crime of forum spamming (see http://tinyurl.com/2eb8sk). How horrible. Adrian is wasting our time by making pocket money. Kinda like the solicitations we all used to get in the '70s and '80s by recently recruited Amway salesmen trying to get us to go to one of their pep rallies to sign us up so that we become part of their downline. The difference here, of course, is that Adrian wastes about 5 seconds of my time as I read his silly post whereby the Amway people used to waste about 5 hours of my time if I got suckered into going to one of their meetings (it happened to me at least twice with Amway and about 3 times with other multi-level marketing solicitations). 3) In punishment for his crime, Barry Wright has put Adrian into a position of actually being accused of a very real crime (can you say Pete Townsend?). He has done what is probably the meanest, lowest thing that can be done on the internet: he has pretended to be someone he is not and misrepresented another person's username. And not just anywhere but feeding it into a child pornography site, a place that I would assume Adrian has never, ever visited nor has a desire to visit. Barry has framed Adrian. Barry has become upset because Adrian wasted about 5 seconds of Barry's time and has therefore deemed it justice that to put Adrian in a very real position of having to deal with authorities is equivalent to what Adrian did to Barry. If I were Adrian, I would, instead, alert said authorities to Barry's crime which was (1) identity theft; and (2) identity theft for the purpose of framing another. Of course I didn't really DO what I said I did. That's just my standard response to spammers, to make them think about what they risk by posting their email addresses to people whose privacy they have invaded with their spam. But it's interesting that Shemp has gotten his panties in a twist over this. Maybe he's worried that some of his favorite sites will get shut down. I mean, this IS the guy who's ga-ga over Juno and Vanessa Paradis and other jailbait, if I remember correctly. :-) Also: Barry, do you not have even a clue that what you wrote -- even if you didn't actually DO it -- may be illegal? And even if it isn't illegal, that you could have totally freaked this guy Adrian out? I bought into it; I actually thought you had gone on and done what you said you did (indeed, I'm not totally convinced that you haven't). You are always the first on the bandwagon to monitor over-posting on this forum. The second someone (usually me) is over the 50-posts-per- week limit, you are posting these stats demanding that the over- poster be punished or banned. Now, put your little thinking cap on and ask yourself: what is worse, over-posting or identity theft? And since you're now claiming that you didn't actually do it, ask yourself: what is worse: over-posting or PRETENDING to steal one's identity and PRETENDING to visit child porn sites and PRETENDING to frame someone of feeding their usernames into a porn site? I got a two-week suspension for my horrible crime. What do you think should be visited upon you?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:44 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know Of course I know who you are talking about. Who? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM
RE: [FairfieldLife] interesting website - santapixel.com
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Price Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] interesting website - santapixel.com Hi, I heard about a new website called santapixel.com. A very interesting and entertaining website. You sign up for free. Click on ads, surf in web sites and earn points. Then you win gifts by points. While signing up, enter HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] (my username) as your reference. So both of us earn 50 points. See you Membership removed. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Wright's well-known child pornography sites
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry, do you not have even a clue that what you wrote -- even if you didn't actually DO it -- may be illegal? Sosueme. :-) And even if it isn't illegal, that you could have totally freaked this guy Adrian out? I bought into it; I actually thought you had gone on and done what you said you did (indeed, I'm not totally convinced that you haven't). That's because you're STUPID, Shemp. :-) AND you needed another excuse to post uncontrollably so that you can be gone next time for three weeks when you pass 50. Guess I'm it. :-) Get a life.
[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had an excellent writing program our first year at MIU. They really emphasized it and taught me the mantra writing is rewriting. Of course I know who you are talking about. If you are trying to say that because MIU had some good educational programs then the movement should be excused from any other coercive behavior, then you are expressing a feature of dysfunctional relationships. No, I am not saying that at all. I myself am critical of the movement for all the wrong things they do, as you know from reading my posts, and am for open discussion of these things. What I'm saying is: he should go ahead and criticize the movement all he wants but since the movement helped him in such a fundamental way, it would be nice if he acknowledged that along with the negative. But since we're on the topic of this particular person (who I am being sensitive about actually naming in light of the recent disclosure of the name of John Hagelin's student paramour and the flap that has been causing the person who named names) I would also add that this person's TM story -- that is, how he came to TM and innocently became indoctrinated -- which I have read online is full of alot of bunk. This particular person IN HIS FIRST SEVERAL MONTHS AT MIU in '75 was in close contact with fundamentalist Christians who were ex-TMers and who were actively working against the TMO and TM. And he received reams of documents about all the secrets of TM and all the negative accusations about the alleged cult dangers of TM. He knew it all. But when you read his story, it comes across that NONE of this was known to him and yet he was somehow slowly and unknowingly brainwashed into the TM cult. But the opposite was true: this person had FULL disclosure from the get-go. But when he left the movement he painted a much different picture. And this was dishonest. In a personal setting loving someone doesn't give you any rights for abuse. No group is all bad or all good. Even the most undisputed cults have some good especially in their into courses. That is not the point. I don't suppose you ever met with families desperate to have contact with their kids who had disappeared into a group, so you may not imagine the emotional cost to a family. His work is about reconnecting families with lost kids. It was not an attack on the movement. If the movement took it as an attack it might have been because the shoe fit a bit too much. Identifying cult tactics in a group should have been an invitation to knock it off. But the antidote is information, and now that the information is available, people can make their own choices. That is a good thing IMO. Now with the Rajas in the open and TM involvement dying off, the whole cult topic is kinda dead concerning TM. But there are other vibrant and much more dangerous groups now and the information of how people's beliefs change in a social setting is important knowledge. The 19 hijackers were well educated men. How did they adapt a belief in suicide? These are important questions and thought reform theory helps us understand. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: [snip] So you are the product of MUM's writing department huh? I'd say the university has bigger problems than Haglein banging the student body. [snip] I went to MIU at the same time as Curtis. There is someone whom we both went to MIU with who then became a well- known militant ex-TMer who was virtually illiterate when he first came to MIU as a teenager for our freshman class. He could not correctly spell any word larger than three letters nor put together a sentence on paper. And that's not hype, that's fact. Yet to his credit (alot of hard work, determination, and persistence) he overcame his handicap...to the point where he was literate enough that he became a writer of sorts: HE DOCUMENTED THROUGH HIS WRITING HIS HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE WITH THE TM CULT. Yet it was MIU that enabled him to become literate. This individual didn't overcome his illiteracy by himself. Because it was the staff and faculty of MIU that worked with him so that he overcame his illiteracy. Funny, isn't it; MIU provided the very education and skills that enabled this person to have the very petard he most eagerly and willingly employed against MIU, Maharishi, and the TMO. Fine. Free speech and all; he's entitled to express his opinions and views against the Movement. But I'd like to see him at the same time give MIU credit for giving him a chance in the first place by accepting an obviously unqualified person as a student as well as then working with
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Wright's well-known child pornography sites
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Barry, do you not have even a clue that what you wrote -- even if you didn't actually DO it -- may be illegal? Sosueme. :-) And even if it isn't illegal, that you could have totally freaked this guy Adrian out? I bought into it; I actually thought you had gone on and done what you said you did (indeed, I'm not totally convinced that you haven't). That's because you're STUPID, Shemp. :-) AND you needed another excuse to post uncontrollably so that you can be gone next time for three weeks when you pass 50. Guess I'm it. :-) Get a life. Go back to your child porn sites.
[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: It truly is an attempt to defame and should be removed. Interesting from Vaj. How many of his anti-TM posts would be regarded as attempt to defame ? If they were to be removed it would't leave many of his posts in, IMO. Defaming someone requires a lie. Truth is a defense. If the information about the woman and Haglin is a lie, both could claim that they are defamed. Yelling at someone or calling someone names is rarely going to be defaming anyone, it is just opinions.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of a friend has inoperable cancer. Does anyone know of a residential cancer treatment center that follows a natural or holistic approach? She's not expecting a miracle cure, but sometimes such things happen. Is she in this part of the country? I suggest that first she go to Mayo and get thoroughly evaluated. In the evaluation she should mention her desire for a holistic approach. She may actually get some good recommendations from Mayo. I know this is going against the grain here. But, this is life and death. If she hasn't had an outside evaluation by the appropriate specialists, she needs one. They also can help her make her way through the bogus regimens.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ruthsimplicity Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center? --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of a friend has inoperable cancer. Does anyone know of a residential cancer treatment center that follows a natural or holistic approach? She's not expecting a miracle cure, but sometimes such things happen. Is she in this part of the country? I suggest that first she go to Mayo and get thoroughly evaluated. In the evaluation she should mention her desire for a holistic approach. She may actually get some good recommendations from Mayo. I know this is going against the grain here. But, this is life and death. If she hasn't had an outside evaluation by the appropriate specialists, she needs one. They also can help her make her way through the bogus regimens. I didn’t know when I first posted this, but it’s bladder cancer and is now in her lungs. I think she’s gone the allopathic route, which doesn’t offer any hope, and is looking at alternatives, without false expectations. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Wright's well-known child pornography sites
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry, do you not have even a clue that what you wrote -- even if you didn't actually DO it -- may be illegal? And even if it isn't illegal, that you could have totally freaked this guy Adrian out? Adrian probably never looked back and he went on his spam binge. I highly doubt that anything Barry said to Adrian was illegal.
[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
snip No, I am not saying that at all. I myself am critical of the movement for all the wrong things they do, as you know from reading my posts, and am for open discussion of these things. Yes I know. Sorry to pull the high horse routine on you. What I'm saying is: he should go ahead and criticize the movement all he wants but since the movement helped him in such a fundamental way, it would be nice if he acknowledged that along with the negative. He does personally. There were lots of great things about his MIU experience. Mine too. But since we're on the topic of this particular person (who I am being sensitive about actually naming in light of the recent disclosure of the name of John Hagelin's student paramour and the flap that has been causing the person who named names) I know me too. I am not against BEING hypocritical here, but I try my best not to APPEAR as if I am! Without the illiterate charge we could be discussing his work freely. (I remember the string of Is it too soon Jokes after 9-11. Soon this flap will die down and we can gossip like ladies under the hair dryer again. I would also add that this person's TM story -- that is, how he came to TM and innocently became indoctrinated -- which I have read online is full of alot of bunk. This particular person IN HIS FIRST SEVERAL MONTHS AT MIU in '75 was in close contact with fundamentalist Christians who were ex-TMers and who were actively working against the TMO and TM. And he received reams of documents about all the secrets of TM and all the negative accusations about the alleged cult dangers of TM. He knew it all. No he didn't because I didn't either. The Christians who came on campus were peddling a pretty wacky version of beliefs about TM that didn't effect me at all. They were claiming demonic influences and a half baked concept of cult mind control. It was easy to dismiss. What he came across in seeing his sister getting exit counseled out of a Christian cult was the information from Singer and Lifton's perspective. This information was very different in detail and insight about group coercion. But when you read his story, it comes across that NONE of this was known to him and yet he was somehow slowly and unknowingly brainwashed into the TM cult. But the opposite was true: this person had FULL disclosure from the get-go. But when he left the movement he painted a much different picture. And this was dishonest. The only counter view of MMY's teachings I had was the wacky Christian one. When I finally interacted with the Lifton-Singer perspective it was completely new to me, and for me, more compelling than MMY's view. Now people can choose which view suits their experience better. When we were at MIU the Jonestown thing happened. This was what really light a fire under the academic community to study groups more throughly. The information he found persuasive was not available until after we graduated outside academic circles. The information entered popular culture with Steve Hassin's book, Combating Cult Mind Control in about '88 when it rocked my world. Our friend (mine anyway) helped me as I sought more information to make a more informed decision about my TM involvement. He is a sincere guy. People like you, who value TM and don't buy in to the group think, can enjoy meditating knowing many optional POV's on it. That seems like informed consent to me. In a personal setting loving someone doesn't give you any rights for abuse. No group is all bad or all good. Even the most undisputed cults have some good especially in their into courses. That is not the point. I don't suppose you ever met with families desperate to have contact with their kids who had disappeared into a group, so you may not imagine the emotional cost to a family. His work is about reconnecting families with lost kids. It was not an attack on the movement. If the movement took it as an attack it might have been because the shoe fit a bit too much. Identifying cult tactics in a group should have been an invitation to knock it off. But the antidote is information, and now that the information is available, people can make their own choices. That is a good thing IMO. Now with the Rajas in the open and TM involvement dying off, the whole cult topic is kinda dead concerning TM. But there are other vibrant and much more dangerous groups now and the information of how people's beliefs change in a social setting is important knowledge. The 19 hijackers were well educated men. How did they adapt a belief in suicide? These are important questions and thought reform theory helps us understand. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: [snip]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ruthsimplicity Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center? --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: A friend of a friend has inoperable cancer. Does anyone know of a residential cancer treatment center that follows a natural or holistic approach? She's not expecting a miracle cure, but sometimes such things happen. Is she in this part of the country? I suggest that first she go to Mayo and get thoroughly evaluated. In the evaluation she should mention her desire for a holistic approach. She may actually get some good recommendations from Mayo. I know this is going against the grain here. But, this is life and death. If she hasn't had an outside evaluation by the appropriate specialists, she needs one. They also can help her make her way through the bogus regimens. I didn't know when I first posted this, but it's bladder cancer and is now in her lungs. I think she's gone the allopathic route, which doesn't offer any hope, and is looking at alternatives, without false expectations. I am so sorry. I see why her docs have said it is not curable. Sometimes chemo is used to shrink the lung tumors, but odds are it won't do much but buy a little time. I am sorry to say but there is no indication that any holistic treatments are going to help. What would you want to do when faced with the end of life? I know I would want to be near those I love, and have my pain and other symptoms managed to the extent possible. Be kind to your friend and if it helps her to consider possible alternative treatments, there is no harm. But I would consider gently discouraging long trips to far flung places.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center?
--Don't you dare send her to Mayo, Rick. That's a death sentence: more radiation, chemo, and surgery; midieval practices befitting a society of midieval retards that will only result in a downward spiral to a quick demise. Speaking of quacks, Mayo is years behind even the most advanced orthodox medical schools like UCLA (which promotes the use of curcumin). She should start on the alternative program immediately, not a day to waste. Here's a longer list targeted toward alleviation bladder problems - should be taken throughout the day in small doses, on an empty stomach. Then, followed by an alternative regimen that will attack the cancer in any part of the body with downside as to the types of side effects associated with the barbaric quackery offered by Mayo. FIRST: get the following combination of nutraceuticals, available from Swanson Health products, the Vitamin Shoppe, or any other reputable retailer: 1. Calcium D-Glucarate 2. IP-6 (Inositol Hexaphosphate) 3. Graminex flower pollen extract (imported from Europe, for the uninary tract). 4. MCP (Modifed Citrus Pectin) - preferably Pectasol brand. Swanson's tacked their own label on MCP, calling it PectiPure. 5. D-Mannose - a glyconutrient effective for maintaining a healthy urinary tract. SECOND; get a broad spectrum anti-cancer set of nutraceuticals that will target the cancer regardless of the type; including assitance for the liver. 1. Broccoli Extract with Glucosinolates 2. Blueberry extract 3. Pomegranate extract 4. BCM-95 tumeric extract with 95% curcuminoids, available from Life Extension foundation. Make SURE the label says that it has the BCM- 95 curcumin. 5. 7-HMR Lignans 6. Quercetin 7. DIM Comples with I3C (DIM = dindolymethane). 8. Vit. D 9. Silymarin - standardized extract from milk thistle. Take all of the above and your friend has a good chance of complete recovery. OR,go to Mayo and say goodbye to friends and relatives. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ruthsimplicity Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center? --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: A friend of a friend has inoperable cancer. Does anyone know of a residential cancer treatment center that follows a natural or holistic approach? She's not expecting a miracle cure, but sometimes such things happen. Is she in this part of the country? I suggest that first she go to Mayo and get thoroughly evaluated. In the evaluation she should mention her desire for a holistic approach. She may actually get some good recommendations from Mayo. I know this is going against the grain here. But, this is life and death. If she hasn't had an outside evaluation by the appropriate specialists, she needs one. They also can help her make her way through the bogus regimens. I didn't know when I first posted this, but it's bladder cancer and is now in her lungs. I think she's gone the allopathic route, which doesn't offer any hope, and is looking at alternatives, without false expectations. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: MESSAGE FROM HOWARD SETTLE
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:02:47 -0600 Subject: MESSAGE FROM HOWARD SETTLE From: Raja John Hagelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invincibleamerica.org/ Dear Governors, Sidhas, and Meditators, When I think of great human beings-and truly great American heroes-I think of Howard and Alice Settle. Longtime Yogic Flyers, Howard and Alice have, through their extraordinary intelligence and organizing power, been blessed with great material abundance. Fortunately for America and the world, Howard and Alice are deeply devoted to Maharishi and his Total Knowledge. They have chosen to share a very large portion of their wealth to support Maharishi's programs to create invincibility in America and Heaven on Earth. You may or may not be aware of this, but Howard and Alice have donated an astonishing $1 million each month for the past 15 months to support the Yogic Flyers on our Invincible America Assembly-including the Vedic Pandits. It is their ongoing generosity that is allowing America to rise to invincibility and remain steadfast amidst the many economic, social, and even meteorological storms that have blown our way. Last week, on January 12, Howard celebrated his birthday and was joyously feted on Maharishi's Global Family Chat. The following is a transcript of his eloquent remarks at the conclusion of that wonderful day-a day when, incidentally, the number of Yogic Flyers in the Domes exceeded the Super Radiance number of 1730. (Unfortunately, since then, the numbers have fallen again to around 1500.) Please listen carefully to the words of this very wise, highly enlightened man. Please take his words deeply into your heart-and act on them. With great love and appreciation, Jai Guru Dev Raja John MESSAGE FROM HOWARD SETTLE On his birthday, January 12, 2008 http://streaming.globalcountry.net/settle_smallest.mp3Listen to the Audio of Howard's Message Transcript: I would like to take this opportunity to speak to all of the Sidhas in America and throughout the world about the extraordinary gift that Maharishi has given us in the form of the Invincible Assemblies. Maharishi has given us the opportunity to create an invincible world-a world without enemies-a world of peace, prosperity, joy, happiness, and profound bliss. The formula to achieve this incredible goal for mankind is so very simple, and it is completely within our grasp. Maharishi has given us the technology to achieve the impossible through a procedure so easy and blissful that it defies imagination-and yet it is true, and it has been tested and proven. The technology, of course, is an Invincible Assembly in every nation-a Super Radiance group of Yogic Flyers in every country. We have such an assembly in America, and I am very gratified to see that in the last day or two we have achieved the Super Radiance numbers once again. We have been given the knowledge of the mechanics of these Invincible Assemblies as a formula-the square root of 1% of the nation's population-but I would like to discuss the benefits for each of us in terms of my field of experience, which is business. There is an important principle in business which Maharishi has described as 'do less and accomplish more.' For any business transaction, you want to invest as little as possible, but in return you want to receive as much as possible. We have the tools to calculate how efficient we are at this principle of 'do less and accomplish more': we calculate the return on investment and the rate of return. In business, if you can achieve a 2 to 1 return on your investment over a period of a year, your calculated rate of return is 100%, and this is pretty good. In fact, if I offered each of you a 100% rate of return, it would be insane not to take advantage of an investment as favorable as that. By contrast, Raja Hagelin has informed us that the influence we create in the Super Radiance groups is equal to the square root of 1%. The easiest way to calculate this effect is to multiply the number of Yogic Flyers by 100. So yesterday, with 1750 Yogic Flyers in the Invincible America Assembly, each of you had the effect of providing a positive influence of coherence to 175,000 of your fellow citizens. In other words, the return on investment of a single Yogic Flyer in the Assembly yesterday was 175,000 to 1; and this return did not take a year, but occurred within 3 hours. I haven't calculated the rate of return on this investment of your time, but it approaches infinity. This return to each of you on the Assembly is on an investment far more precious than money. It is a return on your action-your karma. And the result will be a continuous stream of positive influence in your life that will grow each day as you participate in the Assembly. There is no more efficient mechanism in the universe to accomplish so much for so little. This is the extraordinary gift of Maharishi which will allow us to make such
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Don't you dare send her to Mayo, Rick. That's a death sentence: more radiation, chemo, and surgery; midieval practices befitting a society of midieval retards that will only result in a downward spiral to a quick demise. I am far from an expert in these matters, but can contribute an anecdotal experience that bears this out. A friend of mine in Santa Fe was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, one of the worst. He went to the Mayo Clinic, and was examined by the most internationally-famous cancer specialist there, who pronounced him incurable and told my friend that he would die within six months. My friend looked into alternative therapies and began to practice them, and is still alive and kicking today, ten years later. The doctor in question was so upset that my friend had proved him wrong that he started calling him and writing him letters telling him that he was in denial and was really about to die any minute. In other words, he was trying to weaken my friend's resolve and his immune system and *make* him die, just so that his predictions wouldn't be wrong. Stupidly, the doctor in question put some of these things in writing, and my friend sued, and is now living (*still* living) on the results of the mal- practice suit against him, and the settlement for him dropping criminal charges of harassment. I know that there are some good alopathic doctors out there who are nothing *like* this guy. I'm just posting this to remind people that famous is not necessarily better. If the famous doctor has an ego problem like this guy did, it could very well be worse.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Don't you dare send her to Mayo, Rick. That's a death sentence: more radiation, chemo, and surgery; midieval practices befitting a society of midieval retards that will only result in a downward spiral to a quick demise. Speaking of quacks, Mayo is years behind even the most advanced orthodox medical schools like UCLA (which promotes the use of curcumin). Re curcumine: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/curcumin/AN01741 Re alternative therapies and Mayo's evidenced based approach: http://www.mayoclinic.org/general-internal-medicine-rst/cimc.html yifuxero, you make some pretty bold claims about cure. What is your evidence? Rick's friends cancer has metastasized. I am sorry, but blueberries and tumeric is not a cure. I don't want to digress too much from Rick's request for help for his friend, but claiming a cure goes over the line.
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's Msg - Beautiful - Extended Version - YouTube
Forwarded from a dear friend: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=R1_dYQRM08ghttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=R1_dYQRM08g Dearest Friend, This is so deeply moving, so deeply devotional and reverent. So beautiful. I had to share this with you. Even if seen before, seems would always be so gorgeous, so full of light, so deeply moving to see again. I could watch this over and over. Like a prayer -- to the highest found within us all. Deeply tender. Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center?
I posted this in Message #137312 . . . ordinary physicians are almost no better. One of my sons had a problem that required surgery, and I took him to NINE DOCTORS before the proper diagnosis was reached. My other son with the cancer -- he made it by the way -- no remissions for ten years now -- was taken to three physicians who dispensed medicines that didn't work, and it took about six months and a fourth doctor to identify it as cancer and to schedule surgery within 12 hours. You know that old joke: What's that white stuff in chicken shit? Answer: more chicken shit. Like that, I dare anyone to present an expert to me. The white stuff in their resume is more jazz to get my money. So don't get me started about so-called experts who tell us that we should believe them about anything because because because. Whatever happened to fasting and prayer? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: --Don't you dare send her to Mayo, Rick. That's a death sentence: more radiation, chemo, and surgery; midieval practices befitting a society of midieval retards that will only result in a downward spiral to a quick demise. I am far from an expert in these matters, but can contribute an anecdotal experience that bears this out. A friend of mine in Santa Fe was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, one of the worst. He went to the Mayo Clinic, and was examined by the most internationally-famous cancer specialist there, who pronounced him incurable and told my friend that he would die within six months. My friend looked into alternative therapies and began to practice them, and is still alive and kicking today, ten years later. The doctor in question was so upset that my friend had proved him wrong that he started calling him and writing him letters telling him that he was in denial and was really about to die any minute. In other words, he was trying to weaken my friend's resolve and his immune system and *make* him die, just so that his predictions wouldn't be wrong. Stupidly, the doctor in question put some of these things in writing, and my friend sued, and is now living (*still* living) on the results of the mal- practice suit against him, and the settlement for him dropping criminal charges of harassment. I know that there are some good alopathic doctors out there who are nothing *like* this guy. I'm just posting this to remind people that famous is not necessarily better. If the famous doctor has an ego problem like this guy did, it could very well be worse.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: --Don't you dare send her to Mayo, Rick. That's a death sentence: more radiation, chemo, and surgery; midieval practices befitting a society of midieval retards that will only result in a downward spiral to a quick demise. I am far from an expert in these matters, but can contribute an anecdotal experience that bears this out. A friend of mine in Santa Fe was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, one of the worst. He went to the Mayo Clinic, and was examined by the most internationally-famous cancer specialist there, who pronounced him incurable and told my friend that he would die within six months. My friend looked into alternative therapies and began to practice them, and is still alive and kicking today, ten years later. Spontaneous remission of cancers is not unheard of. That is one reason why you never hear about a 100% death rate, even for cancers like pancreatic cancers. The problem is determining the cause of the remission. You friend's outcome and similar cases are very interesting to scientists as they try to explore possible cures. However, often it isn't a remission at all, but an incorrect diagnosis. Human nature encourages attributing cause for both good and bad outcomes whether or not there is evidence. As far as the doctor, if the facts as you relay them are correct, the doctor sounds like he had major issues.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted this in Message #137312 . . . ordinary physicians are almost no better. One of my sons had a problem that required surgery, and I took him to NINE DOCTORS before the proper diagnosis was reached. My other son with the cancer -- he made it by the way -- no remissions for ten years now -- was taken to three physicians who dispensed medicines that didn't work, and it took about six months and a fourth doctor to identify it as cancer and to schedule surgery within 12 hours. Yup, medicine can be harder than one might think. Sometimes it does take a lot of tries, a lot of poking around, and sometimes there are no answers. And in the end we all die.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of yifuxero Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:39 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center? --Don't you dare send her to Mayo, Rick. Thanks. I’m forwarding everything. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM
[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
pretty much any topic is open..sexuality --from the fairfield life yahoo group intro page. --- nice to see some people losing their perspective when names are named. this is just information that her friends have discussed and apparently she told someone who told someone who told me then i told you. wow she is so special she can have sex out of marriage but if others do they get thrown of courses or kicked out of the dome. she and john are above natural law, whoops, it is john that is special, my bad. lets just pretend john has a good reputation and it is all ok. hell lets throw out the us constitution and the bill of rights too protect the image of the king being challenged, once and forever, to prevent persons like me from speaking. individual rights and freedom of information are not important, protecting the image of totalitarian knowledge owners, rajas, requires we shut up when information comes our way that may or may not make them seem more holy. or perhaps the infidels should be beheaded or something when they talk and we dont like it. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:14 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: Rick, I know that this is not a board where you tend to moderate what people say and it is pretty much a free for all. However, I think it would make sense to delete any posts that mention the name of the MUM student Haglin allegedly had sex with. Heck, the more I think about it the more I think the whole thread should be killed. It truly is an attempt to defame and should be removed. However I don't know if you can exempt it from the automatic archive that the messages are sent to...
[FairfieldLife] this sex thing goes a lot deeper
Well, as Ive been reading the various replies to the sex post on a couple different Forums, I'm thinking, you know what, this whole thing goes a lot deeper than we dare to even imagine. I'm talking about very severe psychological mutilation, fearfully hidden, and if you start exposing it it feels like an attack. Of course, to expose a fearfully hidden mutilation is not an attack but a step towards healing. But to allow that mutilation to remain hidden because its exposure is feared, is to allow both the fear and the mutilation both to remain. The egos pretense of benign normality is a desperate attempt to conceal the intolerable madness that knows its very existence is an absolute fraud. Only the monstrous masculinity of viciously aggressive deceit could sustain such a fragile charade, hence making the fragility of feminine tenderness a mortal threat. And so masculinity has been caricatured into a horrific travesty of cruelty and torture, and femininity bludgeoned lifeless to neutralize the dreadful peril its feared to be. Disabled Creativity disables spiritual progress and disabled sexuality disables Creativity, and disabled, maimed, distorted, repressed, denied, perverted, feared, abused, misused, misunderstood, misperceived, blocked, misconstrued, slandered, concealed, lied about, dysfunctional, imbalanced, frustrated, impotent, frigid, maligned, hated, twisted, condemned sexuality is the most widespread and deeply entrenched pathological disorder that afflicts the human race. Wilhelm Reich called it the emotional plague, and he was absolutely right. Its the egos most successful castration of spiritual growth because the egos got so many people supporting that castration in the name of spiritual well-being. To better understand the necessity of balancing masculinity and femininity within each individual, notice the obvious results if one or the other is disabled. The womanly woman is passive, receptive, accepting, nurturing, but not of anything that she herself intends, so her nurturing acceptance must always be at the service of others, making her a doormat at best and a slave at worst, or worst yet an entirely dysfunctional basket case of no benefit either to herself or to anyone else. The manly man is bristling with assertive intention and forceful initiative. But all his intentions and initiatives that would be of a Creative nature, instead of being accepted and nurtured by him to their full fruition, maturity and completeness, they are callously, impatiently and insensitively abandoned by him and nothing becomes of them. Furious that his grandiose and egotistical assertiveness falls impotent, yet with an intense denial, repression and aversion of the innate femininity that would render him Creative, he turns his assertiveness to aggressive destructiveness where it produces the vivid and grandiose results that his egotism craves, and so he further infects the planet with another manly man waging destructive war in boardrooms, in politics, in military combat, in domestic violence and so on. The male ego is in such a profound state of pathological deformity that it would rather see the world destroyed than to discover the inner femininity that would restore its wholeness. Fortunately, those of us who are willing to balance ourselves back into our natural Androgyny will embrace these terrified fellows with the patience, forgiveness and compassion that will heal them of the traumatic mutilation theyve suffered in the face of societys monstrous gender schizophrenia. Alright, I didn't mean to rant and rave. But actually, this stuff does far more damage left deeply hidden and denied. Unpleasant to expose, but much worse to hide. Much Love, Ben - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
-it is impossible to damage their reps they are immacculate in my opinion, being what they are, perfect atman-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nadarrombus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was interested in if he was sexing a student as a teacher, just as a wonder about his personality in relation to his status within the tm org. no, bro i get all the sex i want and i dont have some shitty problem with sex or whatever- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest george.deforest@ wrote: nadarrombus royboyunity@ wrote: the girl is catherine coffee. twenty something... in her twenties ... not exactly jail bait more like consenting adult, bro she was having sex with him ... so what right, exactly: so what! (as you yourself know, right?) but his character is it worth a shit. and now so is yours, for posting this kind of malicious gossip; you damage the rep of both dr. john and the girl; and i cant imagine why ... oh wait: they have sex, but you didnt; that must really piss you off, she consented to him but not to you. is that it?
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: genius, now i realize there is at least one profound intellect in this group. you sir are marvellous. may we all heal and live and love in freedom... Well, as I've been reading the various replies to the sex post on a couple different Forums, I'm thinking, you know what, this whole thing goes a lot deeper than we dare to even imagine. I'm talking about very severe psychological mutilation, fearfully hidden, and if you start exposing it it feels like an attack. Of course, to expose a fearfully hidden mutilation is not an attack but a step towards healing. But to allow that mutilation to remain hidden because its exposure is feared, is to allow both the fear and the mutilation both to remain. The ego's pretense of benign normality is a desperate attempt to conceal the intolerable madness that knows it's very existence is an absolute fraud. Only the monstrous masculinity of viciously aggressive deceit could sustain such a fragile charade, hence making the fragility of feminine tenderness a mortal threat. And so masculinity has been caricatured into a horrific travesty of cruelty and torture, and femininity bludgeoned lifeless to neutralize the dreadful peril it's feared to be. Disabled Creativity disables spiritual progress and disabled sexuality disables Creativity, and disabled, maimed, distorted, repressed, denied, perverted, feared, abused, misused, misunderstood, misperceived, blocked, misconstrued, slandered, concealed, lied about, dysfunctional, imbalanced, frustrated, impotent, frigid, maligned, hated, twisted, condemned sexuality is the most widespread and deeply entrenched pathological disorder that afflicts the human race. Wilhelm Reich called it the emotional plague, and he was absolutely right. It's the ego's most successful castration of spiritual growth because the ego's got so many people supporting that castration in the name of spiritual well-being. To better understand the necessity of balancing masculinity and femininity within each individual, notice the obvious results if one or the other is disabled. The womanly woman is passive, receptive, accepting, nurturing, but not of anything that she herself intends, so her nurturing acceptance must always be at the service of others, making her a doormat at best and a slave at worst, or worst yet an entirely dysfunctional basket case of no benefit either to herself or to anyone else. The manly man is bristling with assertive intention and forceful initiative. But all his intentions and initiatives that would be of a Creative nature, instead of being accepted and nurtured by him to their full fruition, maturity and completeness, they are callously, impatiently and insensitively abandoned by him and nothing becomes of them. Furious that his grandiose and egotistical assertiveness falls impotent, yet with an intense denial, repression and aversion of the innate femininity that would render him Creative, he turns his assertiveness to aggressive destructiveness where it produces the vivid and grandiose results that his egotism craves, and so he further infects the planet with another manly man waging destructive war in boardrooms, in politics, in military combat, in domestic violence and so on. The male ego is in such a profound state of pathological deformity that it would rather see the world destroyed than to discover the inner femininity that would restore it's wholeness. Fortunately, those of us who are willing to balance ourselves back into our natural Androgyny will embrace these terrified fellows with the patience, forgiveness and compassion that will heal them of the traumatic mutilation they've suffered in the face of society's monstrous gender schizophrenia. Alright, I didn't mean to rant and rave. But actually, this stuff does far more damage left deeply hidden and denied. Unpleasant to expose, but much worse to hide. Much Love, Ben - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
Alright, I didn't mean to rant and rave. Yes you did, that's what you do. I think this POV was big news when the Brady Bunch was on TV. Man bashing is s 70's. The male ego is in such a profound state of pathological deformity that it would rather see the world destroyed than to discover the inner femininity that would restore it's wholeness. On behalf of all men I revoke your nutsack. Please put it on the shelf next to all the 1970's therapists who thought they could score with chicks if they gave pseudo-feminist rants. Fortunately, those of us who are willing to balance ourselves back into our natural Androgyny will embrace these terrified fellows with the patience, forgiveness and compassion that will heal them of the traumatic mutilation they've suffered in the face of society's monstrous gender schizophrenia. I was gunna guess what you have in your CD collection but I'm afraid you might try to embrace me. I'm terrified don't ya know? Much Love, Ah, the impersonal sweetness of much anonymous love. You're a therapist, how about demonstrating some calibration and rapport skills? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, as I've been reading the various replies to the sex post on a couple different Forums, I'm thinking, you know what, this whole thing goes a lot deeper than we dare to even imagine. I'm talking about very severe psychological mutilation, fearfully hidden, and if you start exposing it it feels like an attack. Of course, to expose a fearfully hidden mutilation is not an attack but a step towards healing. But to allow that mutilation to remain hidden because its exposure is feared, is to allow both the fear and the mutilation both to remain. The ego's pretense of benign normality is a desperate attempt to conceal the intolerable madness that knows it's very existence is an absolute fraud. Only the monstrous masculinity of viciously aggressive deceit could sustain such a fragile charade, hence making the fragility of feminine tenderness a mortal threat. And so masculinity has been caricatured into a horrific travesty of cruelty and torture, and femininity bludgeoned lifeless to neutralize the dreadful peril it's feared to be. Disabled Creativity disables spiritual progress and disabled sexuality disables Creativity, and disabled, maimed, distorted, repressed, denied, perverted, feared, abused, misused, misunderstood, misperceived, blocked, misconstrued, slandered, concealed, lied about, dysfunctional, imbalanced, frustrated, impotent, frigid, maligned, hated, twisted, condemned sexuality is the most widespread and deeply entrenched pathological disorder that afflicts the human race. Wilhelm Reich called it the emotional plague, and he was absolutely right. It's the ego's most successful castration of spiritual growth because the ego's got so many people supporting that castration in the name of spiritual well-being. To better understand the necessity of balancing masculinity and femininity within each individual, notice the obvious results if one or the other is disabled. The womanly woman is passive, receptive, accepting, nurturing, but not of anything that she herself intends, so her nurturing acceptance must always be at the service of others, making her a doormat at best and a slave at worst, or worst yet an entirely dysfunctional basket case of no benefit either to herself or to anyone else. The manly man is bristling with assertive intention and forceful initiative. But all his intentions and initiatives that would be of a Creative nature, instead of being accepted and nurtured by him to their full fruition, maturity and completeness, they are callously, impatiently and insensitively abandoned by him and nothing becomes of them. Furious that his grandiose and egotistical assertiveness falls impotent, yet with an intense denial, repression and aversion of the innate femininity that would render him Creative, he turns his assertiveness to aggressive destructiveness where it produces the vivid and grandiose results that his egotism craves, and so he further infects the planet with another manly man waging destructive war in boardrooms, in politics, in military combat, in domestic violence and so on. The male ego is in such a profound state of pathological deformity that it would rather see the world destroyed than to discover the inner femininity that would restore it's wholeness. Fortunately, those of us who are willing to balance ourselves back into our natural Androgyny will embrace these terrified fellows with the patience, forgiveness and compassion that will heal them of the traumatic mutilation they've suffered in the face of society's monstrous gender schizophrenia. Alright, I didn't mean to rant and rave. But actually, this stuff does far more damage left deeply hidden and denied. Unpleasant to expose, but much worse to hide. Much
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tuesday, Tao-Jones Index falls on news of TMmovement Sex Scandal
now this is good stuff lurknomore and company..--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Tao Jones Index of Shakti fell over night on on published accounts that administrators of Maharishi International University are having sex, with their students. Currency of the Global Country for World Peace fell further on this news. Just In! The chief administer is addressing the situation by introducing a new sutra which he hopes will offer guidelines to the rapidly changing situation. It is call the Kama, or Kama Sutra.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Wright's well-known child pornography sites
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Price a.price79@ wrote: Hi, I heard about a new website called santapixel.com. A very interesting and entertaining website. You sign up for free. Click on ads, surf in web sites and earn points. Then you win gifts by points. While signing up, enter a.price79@ (my username) as your reference. So both of us earn 50 points. See you Hi Adrian, As intriguing as the idea of earning points by watching ads on websites is, I decided not to go to the site you mentioned and sign up. Instead, I went to several well-known child porn- ography sites and entered your username as a sub- scriber. I'm sure this will help you to earn points as well, although of a slightly different kind, and possibly from law enforcement authorities. See you. 1) I've been on the internet for 10 years and although I am aware of the concept of child pornography and that it appears somewhere on the internet, I wouldn't know where to look for a child pornography site EVEN IF I GOOGLED IT. Yet Barry Wright is familiar enough with child pornography that he knows which ones are well-known. H. 2) Adrian has committed the terrible crime of forum spamming (see http://tinyurl.com/2eb8sk). How horrible. Adrian is wasting our time by making pocket money. Kinda like the solicitations we all used to get in the '70s and '80s by recently recruited Amway salesmen trying to get us to go to one of their pep rallies to sign us up so that we become part of their downline. The difference here, of course, is that Adrian wastes about 5 seconds of my time as I read his silly post whereby the Amway people used to waste about 5 hours of my time if I got suckered into going to one of their meetings (it happened to me at least twice with Amway and about 3 times with other multi-level marketing solicitations). 3) In punishment for his crime, Barry Wright has put Adrian into a position of actually being accused of a very real crime (can you say Pete Townsend?). He has done what is probably the meanest, lowest thing that can be done on the internet: he has pretended to be someone he is not and misrepresented another person's username. And not just anywhere but feeding it into a child pornography site, a place that I would assume Adrian has never, ever visited nor has a desire to visit. Barry has framed Adrian. Barry has become upset because Adrian wasted about 5 seconds of Barry's time and has therefore deemed it justice that to put Adrian in a very real position of having to deal with authorities is equivalent to what Adrian did to Barry. If I were Adrian, I would, instead, alert said authorities to Barry's crime which was (1) identity theft; and (2) identity theft for the purpose of framing another. Of course I didn't really DO what I said I did. That's just my standard response to spammers, to make them think about what they risk by posting their email addresses to people whose privacy they have invaded with their spam. But it's interesting that Shemp has gotten his panties in a twist over this. Maybe he's worried that some of his favorite sites will get shut down. I mean, this IS the guy who's ga-ga over Juno and Vanessa Paradis and other jailbait, if I remember correctly. :-) Oh gee Barry, you're raining all over Shemp and Adrian's free enterprise dream that is going to make them billionaires some day (or so they believe). Then they can mess up the economy just like Rupert Murdoch, all those oil $hieks and all the rest of those people with way too much money and absolutely little sense.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oh Lovely!
In what? Raams. :D suziezuzie wrote: If it does crash, invest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wait until tomorrow because the US markets are closed for the holiday: http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Stock_markets_plunge_worldwide_01212008.html Good things we are all not attached to our money and investments, right?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center?
ruthsimplicity wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ruthsimplicity Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center? --- In HYPERLINK mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: A friend of a friend has inoperable cancer. Does anyone know of a residential cancer treatment center that follows a natural or holistic approach? She's not expecting a miracle cure, but sometimes such things happen. Is she in this part of the country? I suggest that first she go to Mayo and get thoroughly evaluated. In the evaluation she should mention her desire for a holistic approach. She may actually get some good recommendations from Mayo. I know this is going against the grain here. But, this is life and death. If she hasn't had an outside evaluation by the appropriate specialists, she needs one. They also can help her make her way through the bogus regimens. I didn't know when I first posted this, but it's bladder cancer and is now in her lungs. I think she's gone the allopathic route, which doesn't offer any hope, and is looking at alternatives, without false expectations. I am so sorry. I see why her docs have said it is not curable. Sometimes chemo is used to shrink the lung tumors, but odds are it won't do much but buy a little time. I am sorry to say but there is no indication that any holistic treatments are going to help. What would you want to do when faced with the end of life? I know I would want to be near those I love, and have my pain and other symptoms managed to the extent possible. Be kind to your friend and if it helps her to consider possible alternative treatments, there is no harm. But I would consider gently discouraging long trips to far flung places. The best cure is prevention. Keep the immune system strong so it can trump any start of a tumor. Unfortunately many of the allopathic therapies are worse than the disease and often just wind up delaying the inevitable. And unfortunately (as you point out) holistic therapies aren't going to help if the cancer is too far along.
[FairfieldLife] Are you not already here?
I posted this at my favorite astronomy site today -- it shows my brand of evangelism-without-quite-being-off-topic. The thread I was responding to was about how important it is to get humanity off planet and distributed before some bigass whack hits the Earth -- super volcano, asteroid impact, singularity, doesn't matter. The site's typical reader has a PhD in a hard science and publishes papers in journals, so I'm vastly under-credentialed to post there, but the owner of the site has written me privately that he likes my sermons sprinkled across the threads. So yay for that. The piece: Good news: we're already succeeded! (Prepare for a sermon. Cut me a break. Live on my side of the fence for a few paragraphs.) With all our talk about humans transforming into other creatures that fit new ecosystems or, even, nesting inside AI machines, I ponder often what it is that we think we are preserving when each new embodiment of mind that moves us father from our original home: the human brain. At sixty-three years of age, I know about attrition. I know how my mind has changed over the decades and how many usefulness-outlived toys I long ago left on the cluttered floor of my history careers, skill sets, passions, fads, educational degrees, friends, religions, dogmas, ideals, morals every time I examine myself, I find a constantly evolving into other forms of being me. Fifty six years ago, for a few days, a Schwinn bike was my whole reason for getting out of bed. Whoever arrives on distant orbs will have notions we cannot resonate with, and in all probability they will not have any deeper grasp than we do about what the next step for civilization should be, though they may have a long list of could be's. There is a way to ENTIRELY pierce this uncertainty about the future of us. To see our history of literally emerging from a chemical soup and finally devising a brain that can begin to comprehend a universe so vast, I doubt if anyone here thinks that humanity is the only intelligent life in the cosmos surely the intelligence that's behind the impulse to organize matter into ever more complex states (local decrease in entropy) is as potent a force in nature as the second law of thermodynamics. Since we are so comfortable with becoming engineered organisms or robots, why not just IDENTIFY with life in general? After all, humanity is thought to be moving into, what?, thousands of other kinds of operational modalities, and soonish enough, the varieties of vehicles of thought will be so expansive as to constitute numerous distinct species or, well, life This is something everyone can do: dwell upon the concept of pure life being our deepest nature and that somewhere somewhen there will be a form of us evolving and pushing AWARENESS into the cosmos. To hold one's breath and only want our present meat robots to be the future us, is a myopic parochial chauvinism yet it is sinless to adore being what we are in particular that's cool, eh? Folks, we ARE that very wave front of awareness. We can be found thinking that we are the tippy top top of bestest mostest awareness as it is expressed here on earth, but miss not that everything ELSE is as pristinely AWARE as we. While we are, ahem, the preferred embodiment of that awareness that we wish to preserve, it is equally true that that awareness is found in the least creature even bacterium are now known to communicate with chemicals they emit. Indeed, where ISN'T awareness found? Every religion holds this to be true: awareness is the basis of existence for example, Christ says that the rocks themselves would cry out if He were to stop preaching the truth. Even the rocks!!! I know. I know. You've never met a talking rock. Don't miss the concept in the bath water. Awareness is the primal identity what car I drive, what clothes I wear, whatever today's ideas are that flood my mind, these things will change, but the basic awareness principle will not. This is a principle already active throughout the entirety of existence. We already are on the most distant planet, and they will know that we are over here too. When I look into the dark, I know my eyes are not able to resolve it into the faint dots of light it contains; my meat bot's camera lens just cannot cut it, but teleologically I know that what I call I is already cooking up spicy dishes for itself to consume in every dark corner-that-is-not-actually-dark. Somewhere there is a virus in pure glee as it finds a host, elsewhere a germ pogosticks with delight to find its preferred carbon source, or a whole planet's Gaia has found a way to become, with each species being a tissue, an immense brain/mind/telescope/knower. What matters it to us if the talking-dog only wants to discuss bones recently dug up, or if a copper molecule snuggles up (migrates) to another copper molecule as like-attracts-like in an alloy. A bird of a feather knows another and resonance and attraction and communication
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
You're right. It was a reckless post and I did indulge in ranting and raving. I won't be so thoughtless in the future. curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, I didn't mean to rant and rave. Yes you did, that's what you do. I think this POV was big news when the Brady Bunch was on TV. Man bashing is s 70's. The male ego is in such a profound state of pathological deformity that it would rather see the world destroyed than to discover the inner femininity that would restore it's wholeness. On behalf of all men I revoke your nutsack. Please put it on the shelf next to all the 1970's therapists who thought they could score with chicks if they gave pseudo-feminist rants. Fortunately, those of us who are willing to balance ourselves back into our natural Androgyny will embrace these terrified fellows with the patience, forgiveness and compassion that will heal them of the traumatic mutilation they've suffered in the face of society's monstrous gender schizophrenia. I was gunna guess what you have in your CD collection but I'm afraid you might try to embrace me. I'm terrified don't ya know? Much Love, Ah, the impersonal sweetness of much anonymous love. You're a therapist, how about demonstrating some calibration and rapport skills? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, as I've been reading the various replies to the sex post on a couple different Forums, I'm thinking, you know what, this whole thing goes a lot deeper than we dare to even imagine. I'm talking about very severe psychological mutilation, fearfully hidden, and if you start exposing it it feels like an attack. Of course, to expose a fearfully hidden mutilation is not an attack but a step towards healing. But to allow that mutilation to remain hidden because its exposure is feared, is to allow both the fear and the mutilation both to remain. The ego's pretense of benign normality is a desperate attempt to conceal the intolerable madness that knows it's very existence is an absolute fraud. Only the monstrous masculinity of viciously aggressive deceit could sustain such a fragile charade, hence making the fragility of feminine tenderness a mortal threat. And so masculinity has been caricatured into a horrific travesty of cruelty and torture, and femininity bludgeoned lifeless to neutralize the dreadful peril it's feared to be. Disabled Creativity disables spiritual progress and disabled sexuality disables Creativity, and disabled, maimed, distorted, repressed, denied, perverted, feared, abused, misused, misunderstood, misperceived, blocked, misconstrued, slandered, concealed, lied about, dysfunctional, imbalanced, frustrated, impotent, frigid, maligned, hated, twisted, condemned sexuality is the most widespread and deeply entrenched pathological disorder that afflicts the human race. Wilhelm Reich called it the emotional plague, and he was absolutely right. It's the ego's most successful castration of spiritual growth because the ego's got so many people supporting that castration in the name of spiritual well-being. To better understand the necessity of balancing masculinity and femininity within each individual, notice the obvious results if one or the other is disabled. The womanly woman is passive, receptive, accepting, nurturing, but not of anything that she herself intends, so her nurturing acceptance must always be at the service of others, making her a doormat at best and a slave at worst, or worst yet an entirely dysfunctional basket case of no benefit either to herself or to anyone else. The manly man is bristling with assertive intention and forceful initiative. But all his intentions and initiatives that would be of a Creative nature, instead of being accepted and nurtured by him to their full fruition, maturity and completeness, they are callously, impatiently and insensitively abandoned by him and nothing becomes of them. Furious that his grandiose and egotistical assertiveness falls impotent, yet with an intense denial, repression and aversion of the innate femininity that would render him Creative, he turns his assertiveness to aggressive destructiveness where it produces the vivid and grandiose results that his egotism craves, and so he further infects the planet with another manly man waging destructive war in boardrooms, in politics, in military combat, in domestic violence and so on. The male ego is in such a profound state of pathological deformity that it would rather see the world destroyed than to discover the inner femininity that would restore it's wholeness. Fortunately, those of us who are willing to balance ourselves back into our natural Androgyny will embrace these terrified fellows with the patience, forgiveness and compassion that will heal them of the traumatic mutilation they've suffered in the face of society's monstrous gender schizophrenia. Alright, I didn't mean to rant and rave. But actually,
[FairfieldLife] Found his car!
http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=47726
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
On Jan 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Ben Gilberti wrote: You're right. It was a reckless post and I did indulge in ranting and raving. I won't be so thoughtless in the future. We'll let it go this time, Ben... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Found his car!
I just shoveled my corner lot's two sidewalks, two wheel chair access ramps, area around the fire hydrant, path to mailbox, porch, street for 25 feet of the curb so the mail carrier can pull in enough to get to my mailbox, and driveway -- 10 inch snowfall. How much snow did Iowa get in the last two days? -- looked to be about the same as I got. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=47726
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right. It was a reckless post and I did indulge in ranting and raving. I won't be so thoughtless in the future. So there is a person behind the writing! Have you ever read William Farrell's work Why Men Are the Way They Are? He was part of the feminist movement until he spoke against their doctrine at the time of men bad, women good. This simplistic perspective has been updated by most modern feminists IMO. But his work was groundbreaking and I found it useful in shaping my own perspective. Here is a link to the Amazon page: http://tinyurl.com/299oep I was busting your balls (excuse the image) for not giving this group credit for having thought about the information you wrote about. I think you will find that most posters here are pretty familiar with the lines of thought you expressed and can actually discuss the ideas rather than get a lecture. Thanks for responding. curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, I didn't mean to rant and rave. Yes you did, that's what you do. I think this POV was big news when the Brady Bunch was on TV. Man bashing is s 70's. The male ego is in such a profound state of pathological deformity that it would rather see the world destroyed than to discover the inner femininity that would restore it's wholeness. On behalf of all men I revoke your nutsack. Please put it on the shelf next to all the 1970's therapists who thought they could score with chicks if they gave pseudo-feminist rants. Fortunately, those of us who are willing to balance ourselves back into our natural Androgyny will embrace these terrified fellows with the patience, forgiveness and compassion that will heal them of the traumatic mutilation they've suffered in the face of society's monstrous gender schizophrenia. I was gunna guess what you have in your CD collection but I'm afraid you might try to embrace me. I'm terrified don't ya know? Much Love, Ah, the impersonal sweetness of much anonymous love. You're a therapist, how about demonstrating some calibration and rapport skills? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti b7gilberti@ wrote: Well, as I've been reading the various replies to the sex post on a couple different Forums, I'm thinking, you know what, this whole thing goes a lot deeper than we dare to even imagine. I'm talking about very severe psychological mutilation, fearfully hidden, and if you start exposing it it feels like an attack. Of course, to expose a fearfully hidden mutilation is not an attack but a step towards healing. But to allow that mutilation to remain hidden because its exposure is feared, is to allow both the fear and the mutilation both to remain. The ego's pretense of benign normality is a desperate attempt to conceal the intolerable madness that knows it's very existence is an absolute fraud. Only the monstrous masculinity of viciously aggressive deceit could sustain such a fragile charade, hence making the fragility of feminine tenderness a mortal threat. And so masculinity has been caricatured into a horrific travesty of cruelty and torture, and femininity bludgeoned lifeless to neutralize the dreadful peril it's feared to be. Disabled Creativity disables spiritual progress and disabled sexuality disables Creativity, and disabled, maimed, distorted, repressed, denied, perverted, feared, abused, misused, misunderstood, misperceived, blocked, misconstrued, slandered, concealed, lied about, dysfunctional, imbalanced, frustrated, impotent, frigid, maligned, hated, twisted, condemned sexuality is the most widespread and deeply entrenched pathological disorder that afflicts the human race. Wilhelm Reich called it the emotional plague, and he was absolutely right. It's the ego's most successful castration of spiritual growth because the ego's got so many people supporting that castration in the name of spiritual well-being. To better understand the necessity of balancing masculinity and femininity within each individual, notice the obvious results if one or the other is disabled. The womanly woman is passive, receptive, accepting, nurturing, but not of anything that she herself intends, so her nurturing acceptance must always be at the service of others, making her a doormat at best and a slave at worst, or worst yet an entirely dysfunctional basket case of no benefit either to herself or to anyone else. The manly man is bristling with assertive intention and forceful initiative. But all his intentions and initiatives that would be of a Creative nature, instead of being accepted and nurtured by him to their full fruition, maturity and completeness, they are callously, impatiently and insensitively abandoned by him and nothing becomes of them. Furious that his grandiose and egotistical assertiveness falls impotent, yet with an
[FairfieldLife] Please communicate to all governors
The main point is in the headline and the paragraph highlighted in red, below. Professor Dr. John Konhaus Raja of Japan Dr Feldman announces daily global ceremony of gratitude to Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge by Global Good News staff writer Global Good NewsTranslate This Article 22 January 2008 On the 22 January Global Family Chat, broadcast daily via satellite and over the Internet on Channel 3 of the Maharishi Channel, Dr Benjamin Feldman, Minister of Finance and Planning of the Global Country of World Peace, announced a new programme for Teachers of Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation. Speaking to the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace, Dr Feldman said that 'today is the beautiful full moon of January marking the completion of the auspicious sixth month of the First Year of Invincibility', as marked by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Founder of the Global Country of World Peace, from last Guru Purnima* [29 July 2007]. In August 2007, Maharishi started the tradition of global Puja on every full moon following Guru Purnima, the full moon in July. (Please visit the Global Good News features on Maharishi's addresses on the full moon celebrations in August and September 2007). Dr Feldman said, 'It will be our collective joy to perform Puja to Guru Dev** today, as Purusha*** . . . are doing all over the world on this auspicious day.' Puja is the Vedic ceremony of gratitude to Guru Dev and the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge, the oldest tradition of knowledge on earth. As Maharishi explained in a recent address, 'The Puja to Guru Dev is the mechanics of nourishing every fibre of the administration of Natural Law, and of nourishing all life on earth.' Dr Feldman continued, 'And we invite all the Teachers of Transcendental Meditation here and everywhere to have Puja to Guru Dev from this full moon to the next full moon in their Centres and in their groups every day, joining Maharishiji in offering ourselves to the Totality of Brahm as we had been led by him, and to bring ourselves to the level of the blessings of Guru Dev, the Light of God, for the invincibility of every nation in Maharishiji's world, in Maharishiji's whole family of nations. 'We offer to Guru Dev our confidence. We return to Guru Dev his own blessings, Maharishiji's blessings for the world, and the absolute certainty that the 35 countries that already have invincibility in the number of [practitioners of Transcendental Meditation] and Yogic Flyers that have been trained there, and with all the 48 countries led by all the Rajas of the Global Country of World Peace together to create this memorial to peace—the Tower of Invincibility in every nation—bliss will expand to fill the whole world and administration through silence will guide the world in perfection. 'So with Maharishiji and Maharajaji [Maharaja Nader Raam, first ruler of the Global Country of World Peace], each of these offerings that we offer in Puja to Guru Dev are offering the same blessings of Guru Dev to him, with Maharishiji.' Then the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace took part in the global ceremony. * Guru Purnima is the day in the Vedic Calendar which honours the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge, traditionally celebrated each year on the full moon in July. ** Maharishi's Master, Shri Guru Dev, His Divinity Brahmanand Saraswati, Jagatguru Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, Himalayas *** Maharishi has explained that Purusha means the Self, the quality of infinite silence of the Unified Field of Natural Law. Purusha also refers to members of the Maharishi Purusha Programme—which was designed by Maharishi for men who wish to dedicate themselves fulltime to the most rapid pace of evolution possible and creating world peace. This is accomplished through the extended group practice of the Transcendental Meditation Sidhi Programme, including Yogic Flying, and activity dedicated to the fulfilment of the many programmes of Maharishi's worldwide organizations. Copyright © 2008 Global Good News(sm) Service Global Good News comment: For information about Maharishi's seven-point programme to create a healthy, happy, prosperous society, and a peaceful world, please visit: Global Financial Capital of New York. Professor Dr. John Konhaus Raja of Japan Read the good news every day! visit: www.globalgoodnews.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM image.jpg
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I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now, don't ya think? No more need to pretend... The religion of Guru Devism is born. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main point is in the headline and the paragraph highlighted in red, below. Professor Dr. John Konhaus Raja of Japan Dr Feldman announces daily global ceremony of gratitude to Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge by Global Good News staff writer Global Good NewsTranslate This Article 22 January 2008 On the 22 January Global Family Chat, broadcast daily via satellite and over the Internet on Channel 3 of the Maharishi Channel, Dr Benjamin Feldman, Minister of Finance and Planning of the Global Country of World Peace, announced a new programme for Teachers of Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation. Speaking to the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace, Dr Feldman said that 'today is the beautiful full moon of January marking the completion of the auspicious sixth month of the First Year of Invincibility', as marked by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Founder of the Global Country of World Peace, from last Guru Purnima* [29 July 2007]. In August 2007, Maharishi started the tradition of global Puja on every full moon following Guru Purnima, the full moon in July. (Please visit the Global Good News features on Maharishi's addresses on the full moon celebrations in August and September 2007). Dr Feldman said, 'It will be our collective joy to perform Puja to Guru Dev** today, as Purusha*** . . . are doing all over the world on this auspicious day.' Puja is the Vedic ceremony of gratitude to Guru Dev and the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge, the oldest tradition of knowledge on earth. As Maharishi explained in a recent address, 'The Puja to Guru Dev is the mechanics of nourishing every fibre of the administration of Natural Law, and of nourishing all life on earth.' Dr Feldman continued, 'And we invite all the Teachers of Transcendental Meditation here and everywhere to have Puja to Guru Dev from this full moon to the next full moon in their Centres and in their groups every day, joining Maharishiji in offering ourselves to the Totality of Brahm as we had been led by him, and to bring ourselves to the level of the blessings of Guru Dev, the Light of God, for the invincibility of every nation in Maharishiji's world, in Maharishiji's whole family of nations. 'We offer to Guru Dev our confidence. We return to Guru Dev his own blessings, Maharishiji's blessings for the world, and the absolute certainty that the 35 countries that already have invincibility in the number of [practitioners of Transcendental Meditation] and Yogic Flyers that have been trained there, and with all the 48 countries led by all the Rajas of the Global Country of World Peace together to create this memorial to peacethe Tower of Invincibility in every nationbliss will expand to fill the whole world and administration through silence will guide the world in perfection. 'So with Maharishiji and Maharajaji [Maharaja Nader Raam, first ruler of the Global Country of World Peace], each of these offerings that we offer in Puja to Guru Dev are offering the same blessings of Guru Dev to him, with Maharishiji.' Then the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace took part in the global ceremony. * Guru Purnima is the day in the Vedic Calendar which honours the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge, traditionally celebrated each year on the full moon in July. ** Maharishi's Master, Shri Guru Dev, His Divinity Brahmanand Saraswati, Jagatguru Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, Himalayas *** Maharishi has explained that Purusha means the Self, the quality of infinite silence of the Unified Field of Natural Law. Purusha also refers to members of the Maharishi Purusha Programmewhich was designed by Maharishi for men who wish to dedicate themselves fulltime to the most rapid pace of evolution possible and creating world peace. This is accomplished through the extended group practice of the Transcendental Meditation Sidhi Programme, including Yogic Flying, and activity dedicated to the fulfilment of the many programmes of Maharishi's worldwide organizations. Copyright © 2008 Global Good News(sm) Service Global Good News comment: For information about Maharishi's seven-point programme to create a healthy, happy, prosperous society, and a peaceful world, please visit: Global Financial Capital of New York. Professor Dr. John Konhaus Raja of Japan Read the good news every day! visit: www.globalgoodnews.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by
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That's Professor Doctor Raja John Konhaus to you, Bub. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main point is in the headline and the paragraph highlighted in red, below. Professor Dr. John Konhaus Raja of Japan Dr Feldman announces daily global ceremony of gratitude to Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge by Global Good News staff writer Global Good NewsTranslate This Article 22 January 2008 On the 22 January Global Family Chat, broadcast daily via satellite and over the Internet on Channel 3 of the Maharishi Channel, Dr Benjamin Feldman, Minister of Finance and Planning of the Global Country of World Peace, announced a new programme for Teachers of Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation. Speaking to the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace, Dr Feldman said that 'today is the beautiful full moon of January marking the completion of the auspicious sixth month of the First Year of Invincibility', as marked by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Founder of the Global Country of World Peace, from last Guru Purnima* [29 July 2007]. In August 2007, Maharishi started the tradition of global Puja on every full moon following Guru Purnima, the full moon in July. (Please visit the Global Good News features on Maharishi's addresses on the full moon celebrations in August and September 2007). Dr Feldman said, 'It will be our collective joy to perform Puja to Guru Dev** today, as Purusha*** . . . are doing all over the world on this auspicious day.' Puja is the Vedic ceremony of gratitude to Guru Dev and the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge, the oldest tradition of knowledge on earth. As Maharishi explained in a recent address, 'The Puja to Guru Dev is the mechanics of nourishing every fibre of the administration of Natural Law, and of nourishing all life on earth.' Dr Feldman continued, 'And we invite all the Teachers of Transcendental Meditation here and everywhere to have Puja to Guru Dev from this full moon to the next full moon in their Centres and in their groups every day, joining Maharishiji in offering ourselves to the Totality of Brahm as we had been led by him, and to bring ourselves to the level of the blessings of Guru Dev, the Light of God, for the invincibility of every nation in Maharishiji's world, in Maharishiji's whole family of nations. 'We offer to Guru Dev our confidence. We return to Guru Dev his own blessings, Maharishiji's blessings for the world, and the absolute certainty that the 35 countries that already have invincibility in the number of [practitioners of Transcendental Meditation] and Yogic Flyers that have been trained there, and with all the 48 countries led by all the Rajas of the Global Country of World Peace together to create this memorial to peacethe Tower of Invincibility in every nationbliss will expand to fill the whole world and administration through silence will guide the world in perfection. 'So with Maharishiji and Maharajaji [Maharaja Nader Raam, first ruler of the Global Country of World Peace], each of these offerings that we offer in Puja to Guru Dev are offering the same blessings of Guru Dev to him, with Maharishiji.' Then the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace took part in the global ceremony. * Guru Purnima is the day in the Vedic Calendar which honours the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge, traditionally celebrated each year on the full moon in July. ** Maharishi's Master, Shri Guru Dev, His Divinity Brahmanand Saraswati, Jagatguru Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, Himalayas *** Maharishi has explained that Purusha means the Self, the quality of infinite silence of the Unified Field of Natural Law. Purusha also refers to members of the Maharishi Purusha Programmewhich was designed by Maharishi for men who wish to dedicate themselves fulltime to the most rapid pace of evolution possible and creating world peace. This is accomplished through the extended group practice of the Transcendental Meditation Sidhi Programme, including Yogic Flying, and activity dedicated to the fulfilment of the many programmes of Maharishi's worldwide organizations. Copyright © 2008 Global Good News(sm) Service Global Good News comment: For information about Maharishi's seven-point programme to create a healthy, happy, prosperous society, and a peaceful world, please visit: Global Financial Capital of New York. Professor Dr. John Konhaus Raja of Japan Read the good news every day! visit: www.globalgoodnews.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now, don't ya think? No more need to pretend... The religion of Guru Devism is born. Boy, am I glad Maharishi decertified all those 10s of thousands of teachers several years ago, including me. Pressure's off. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The main point is in the headline and the paragraph highlighted in red, below. Professor Dr. John Konhaus Raja of Japan Dr Feldman announces daily global ceremony of gratitude to Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge by Global Good News staff writer Global Good NewsTranslate This Article 22 January 2008 On the 22 January Global Family Chat, broadcast daily via satellite and over the Internet on Channel 3 of the Maharishi Channel, Dr Benjamin Feldman, Minister of Finance and Planning of the Global Country of World Peace, announced a new programme for Teachers of Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation. Speaking to the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace, Dr Feldman said that 'today is the beautiful full moon of January marking the completion of the auspicious sixth month of the First Year of Invincibility', as marked by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Founder of the Global Country of World Peace, from last Guru Purnima* [29 July 2007]. In August 2007, Maharishi started the tradition of global Puja on every full moon following Guru Purnima, the full moon in July. (Please visit the Global Good News features on Maharishi's addresses on the full moon celebrations in August and September 2007). Dr Feldman said, 'It will be our collective joy to perform Puja to Guru Dev** today, as Purusha*** . . . are doing all over the world on this auspicious day.' Puja is the Vedic ceremony of gratitude to Guru Dev and the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge, the oldest tradition of knowledge on earth. As Maharishi explained in a recent address, 'The Puja to Guru Dev is the mechanics of nourishing every fibre of the administration of Natural Law, and of nourishing all life on earth.' Dr Feldman continued, 'And we invite all the Teachers of Transcendental Meditation here and everywhere to have Puja to Guru Dev from this full moon to the next full moon in their Centres and in their groups every day, joining Maharishiji in offering ourselves to the Totality of Brahm as we had been led by him, and to bring ourselves to the level of the blessings of Guru Dev, the Light of God, for the invincibility of every nation in Maharishiji's world, in Maharishiji's whole family of nations. 'We offer to Guru Dev our confidence. We return to Guru Dev his own blessings, Maharishiji's blessings for the world, and the absolute certainty that the 35 countries that already have invincibility in the number of [practitioners of Transcendental Meditation] and Yogic Flyers that have been trained there, and with all the 48 countries led by all the Rajas of the Global Country of World Peace together to create this memorial to peacethe Tower of Invincibility in every nationbliss will expand to fill the whole world and administration through silence will guide the world in perfection. 'So with Maharishiji and Maharajaji [Maharaja Nader Raam, first ruler of the Global Country of World Peace], each of these offerings that we offer in Puja to Guru Dev are offering the same blessings of Guru Dev to him, with Maharishiji.' Then the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace took part in the global ceremony. * Guru Purnima is the day in the Vedic Calendar which honours the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge, traditionally celebrated each year on the full moon in July. ** Maharishi's Master, Shri Guru Dev, His Divinity Brahmanand Saraswati, Jagatguru Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, Himalayas *** Maharishi has explained that Purusha means the Self, the quality of infinite silence of the Unified Field of Natural Law. Purusha also refers to members of the Maharishi Purusha Programmewhich was designed by Maharishi for men who wish to dedicate themselves fulltime to the most rapid pace of evolution possible and creating world peace. This is accomplished through the extended group practice of the Transcendental Meditation Sidhi Programme, including Yogic Flying, and activity dedicated to the fulfilment of the many programmes of Maharishi's worldwide organizations. Copyright © 2008 Global Good News(sm) Service Global Good News comment: For information about Maharishi's seven-point programme to create a healthy, happy, prosperous society, and a peaceful world, please visit: Global
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just shoveled my corner lot's two sidewalks, two wheel chair access ramps, area around the fire hydrant, path to mailbox, porch, street for 25 feet of the curb so the mail carrier can pull in enough to get to my mailbox, and driveway -- 10 inch snowfall. How much snow did Iowa get in the last two days? -- looked to be about the same as I got. I can identify. It's 12 degrees here, and it was such a weenie-shrinker outside tonight that I had to put on a sweater before walking the dogs. 12 degrees Celsius. That's something like 53 F. Sorry. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=47726
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:25 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Found his car! I just shoveled my corner lot's two sidewalks, two wheel chair access ramps, area around the fire hydrant, path to mailbox, porch, street for 25 feet of the curb so the mail carrier can pull in enough to get to my mailbox, and driveway -- 10 inch snowfall. How much snow did Iowa get in the last two days? -- looked to be about the same as I got. It’s snowing here now, but it barely covers the grass. North of I-80 got a lot more. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1238 - Release Date: 1/22/2008 8:12 PM
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Active Volcano under ice Leigh Dayton, Science writer | January 22, 2008 AN active volcano has been found under Antarctica's rapidly melting western ice sheet. Although it has not erupted for more than 2000 years, heat from the geologically active Hudson Mountains Subglacial Volcano helps explain why nearby Pine Island Glacier shrinks by more than a kilometre every year, British scientists claim. The discovery follows reports last week that Antarctica's ice cap is melting faster than previously believed. According to those findings, the greatest loss was from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the Antarctic Peninsula. Together, they lost nearly 200billion tonnes of ice in 2006 alone. Glaciologists Hugh Corr and David Vaughan of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge claim the discovery of the first known subglacial volcanic eruption promises to improve predictions of future sea-level rise caused by the melting of the WAIS. We believe this was the biggest eruption in Antarctica during the last 10,000 years, Dr Corr said. It blew a substantial hole in the ice sheet and generated a plume of ash and gas that rose around 12km. The team identified a large layer of volcanic ash in the ice. Additional evidence for the eruption came from ice cores collected across the continent. Writing in Nature Geoscience, Dr Corr and Dr Vaughan suggested the increased heat from the eruption, which they dated to 325BC, led to melting of the surrounding and overlying ice which, in turn, increased the flow rate of nearby glaciers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Found his car!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I just shoveled my corner lot's two sidewalks, two wheel chair access ramps, area around the fire hydrant, path to mailbox, porch, street for 25 feet of the curb so the mail carrier can pull in enough to get to my mailbox, and driveway -- 10 inch snowfall. How much snow did Iowa get in the last two days? -- looked to be about the same as I got. I can identify. It's 12 degrees here, and it was such a weenie-shrinker outside tonight that I had to put on a sweater before walking the dogs. 12 degrees Celsius. That's something like 53 F. Sorry. I hope you're not doing to those dogs what you do to the children on the child porn sites you visit. Interpol should be advised. I understand Europe has strict animal protection laws. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=47726
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such a weenie-shrinker Does that cold shrinkage line ever work for you? I haven't had much luck with that! I've been going with a delicately placed tattoo that says Object are larger than they appear. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I just shoveled my corner lot's two sidewalks, two wheel chair access ramps, area around the fire hydrant, path to mailbox, porch, street for 25 feet of the curb so the mail carrier can pull in enough to get to my mailbox, and driveway -- 10 inch snowfall. How much snow did Iowa get in the last two days? -- looked to be about the same as I got. I can identify. It's 12 degrees here, and it was such a weenie-shrinker outside tonight that I had to put on a sweater before walking the dogs. 12 degrees Celsius. That's something like 53 F. Sorry. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=47726
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I just shoveled my corner lot's two sidewalks, two wheel chair access ramps, area around the fire hydrant, path to mailbox, porch, street for 25 feet of the curb so the mail carrier can pull in enough to get to my mailbox, and driveway -- 10 inch snowfall. How much snow did Iowa get in the last two days? -- looked to be about the same as I got. I can identify. It's 12 degrees here, and it was such a weenie-shrinker outside tonight that I had to put on a sweater before walking the dogs. 12 degrees Celsius. That's something like 53 F. Sorry. I hope you're not doing to those dogs what you do to the children on the child porn sites you visit. Interpol should be advised. I understand Europe has strict animal protection laws. And this is the person who, only a few minutes ago, was waxing wroth about the horribleness of suggest- ing such a thing about a person. (In a thread that posted my name in the Subject line along with child abuse, no less.) Classic hypocritical Shemp. H...I wonder if he's so pissed off at me that I can taunt him into going over the posting limit in a (for him) three-day posting week? :-) We all know I probably could, but where would the fun be in that? As with Nabby and Off, and now the Rajas playing My Invincibility Lingam is bigger than your Invincibility Lingam games, the place just isn't as much fun without a few loonies around strutting their stuff. Then again, if I managed to make him so mad that he fouls out on posts *without* taunting him any more? *That* would be somewhat of an achievement. Works for Judy...why not for Shemp?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: such a weenie-shrinker Does that cold shrinkage line ever work for you? I haven't had much luck with that! I've been going with a delicately placed tattoo that says Object are larger than they appear. My tattoo is actually *on* my weenie. On cold shrinkage days I've had ladies look at it and think it says Wepain and chide me for misspelling weapon, much less the size of the weapon. But in reality it says Welcome to warm, sunny Spain. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I just shoveled my corner lot's two sidewalks, two wheel chair access ramps, area around the fire hydrant, path to mailbox, porch, street for 25 feet of the curb so the mail carrier can pull in enough to get to my mailbox, and driveway -- 10 inch snowfall. How much snow did Iowa get in the last two days? -- looked to be about the same as I got. I can identify. It's 12 degrees here, and it was such a weenie-shrinker outside tonight that I had to put on a sweater before walking the dogs. 12 degrees Celsius. That's something like 53 F. Sorry. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=47726
[FairfieldLife] Re: Found his car!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: I just shoveled my corner lot's two sidewalks, two wheel chair access ramps, area around the fire hydrant, path to mailbox, porch, street for 25 feet of the curb so the mail carrier can pull in enough to get to my mailbox, and driveway -- 10 inch snowfall. How much snow did Iowa get in the last two days? -- looked to be about the same as I got. I can identify. It's 12 degrees here, and it was such a weenie-shrinker outside tonight that I had to put on a sweater before walking the dogs. 12 degrees Celsius. That's something like 53 F. Sorry. I hope you're not doing to those dogs what you do to the children on the child porn sites you visit. Interpol should be advised. I understand Europe has strict animal protection laws. And this is the person who, only a few minutes ago, was waxing wroth about the horribleness of suggest- ing such a thing about a person. (In a thread that posted my name in the Subject line along with child abuse, no less.) Classic hypocritical Shemp. What hypocrisy, Barry? You're the one who claimed that you were just joking by putting Adrien's name into a child porn site. This is YOUR standard. So everything I do is just joking, too. So sit back and enjoy the fun, you pervert. H...I wonder if he's so pissed off at me that I can taunt him into going over the posting limit in a (for him) three-day posting week? :-) We all know I probably could, but where would the fun be in that? As with Nabby and Off, and now the Rajas playing My Invincibility Lingam is bigger than your Invincibility Lingam games, the place just isn't as much fun without a few loonies around strutting their stuff. Then again, if I managed to make him so mad that he fouls out on posts *without* taunting him any more? *That* would be somewhat of an achievement. Works for Judy...why not for Shemp?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Found his car!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: such a weenie-shrinker Does that cold shrinkage line ever work for you? I haven't had much luck with that! I've been going with a delicately placed tattoo that says Object are larger than they appear. My tattoo is actually *on* my weenie. On cold shrinkage days I've had ladies look at it and think it says Wepain and chide me for misspelling weapon, much less the size of the weapon. But in reality it says Welcome to warm, sunny Spain. :-) Speaking of tattoos, here is a website I ran across today: http://www.asylum.com/photos/ink-that-stinks/481213/ The next time you think that the world is enter- ing the Age Of Enlightenment, remember that these are the things that some people in that world believe are cool to have tattooed on their bodies. And they go through *pain* for this... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Barry Humbert Humbert Wright
Here is an image that comes up when the name Barry Wright is fed into a google images search. Can you tell which one is the frequenter of child porn sites? [photo: group, barry, tomoko, heather, david] just joking of course!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Humbert Humbert Wright
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is an image that comes up when the name Barry Wright is fed into a google images search. Can you tell which one is the frequenter of child porn sites? [photo: group, barry, tomoko, heather, david] just joking of course! Actually, I am all four of those people. And many more! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Humbert Humbert Wright
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Here is an image that comes up when the name Barry Wright is fed into a google images search. Can you tell which one is the frequenter of child porn sites? [photo: group, barry, tomoko, heather, david] just joking of course! Actually, I am all four of those people. And many more! :-) And I'll have you know that I have my hand down the back of Tomoko's pants. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Found his car!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=47726 Edg did all that showeling and still has breath for endless rants ? ;-)
[FairfieldLife] benefactor Howard Settle
[image: Invincible America] http://invincibleamerica.org/ *Dear Governors, Sidhas, and Meditators,* *When I think of great human beings—and truly great American heroes—I think of Howard and Alice Settle. Longtime Yogic Flyers, Howard and Alice have, through their extraordinary intelligence and organizing power, been blessed with great material abundance. Fortunately for America and the world, Howard and Alice are deeply devoted to Maharishi and his Total Knowledge. They have chosen to share a very large portion of their wealth to support Maharishi's programs to create invincibility in America and Heaven on Earth.* *You may or may not be aware of this, but Howard and Alice have donated an astonishing $1 million each month for the past 15 months to support the Yogic Flyers on our Invincible America Assembly—including the Vedic Pandits. It is their ongoing generosity that is allowing America to rise to invincibility and remain steadfast amidst the many economic, social, and even meteorological storms that have blown our way. * *Last week, on January 12, Howard celebrated his birthday and was joyously feted on Maharishi's Global Family Chat. The following is a transcript of his eloquent remarks at the conclusion of that wonderful day—a day when, incidentally, the number of Yogic Flyers in the Domes exceeded the Super Radiance number of 1730. (Unfortunately, since then, the numbers have fallen again to around 1500.) Please listen carefully to the words of this very wise, highly enlightened man. Please take his words deeply into your heart—and act on them.* *With great love and appreciation,* *Jai Guru Dev* *Raja John* *MESSAGE FROM HOWARD SETTLE* *On his birthday, January 12, 2008* Listen to the Audio of Howard's Messagehttp://streaming.globalcountry.net/settle_smallest.mp3 [image: Howard Settle] *Transcript:* I would like to take this opportunity to speak to all of the Sidhas in America and throughout the world about the extraordinary gift that Maharishi has given us in the form of the Invincible Assemblies. Maharishi has given us the opportunity to create an invincible world—a world without enemies—a world of peace, prosperity, joy, happiness, and profound bliss. The formula to achieve this incredible goal for mankind is so very simple, and it is completely within our grasp. Maharishi has given us the technology to achieve the impossible through a procedure so easy and blissful that it defies imagination—and yet it is true, and it has been tested and proven. The technology, of course, is an Invincible Assembly in every nation—a Super Radiance group of Yogic Flyers in every country. We have such an assembly in America, and I am very gratified to see that in the last day or two we have achieved the Super Radiance numbers once again. We have been given the knowledge of the mechanics of these Invincible Assemblies as a formula—the square root of 1% of the nation's population—but I would like to discuss the benefits for each of us in terms of my field of experience, which is business. There is an important principle in business which Maharishi has described as 'do less and accomplish more.' For any business transaction, you want to invest as little as possible, but in return you want to receive as much as possible. We have the tools to calculate how efficient we are at this principle of 'do less and accomplish more': we calculate the return on investment and the rate of return. In business, if you can achieve a 2 to 1 return on your investment over a period of a year, your calculated rate of return is 100%, and this is pretty good. In fact, if I offered each of you a 100% rate of return, it would be insane not to take advantage of an investment as favorable as that. By contrast, Raja Hagelin has informed us that the influence we create in the Super Radiance groups is equal to the square root of 1%. The easiest way to calculate this effect is to multiply the number of Yogic Flyers by 100. So yesterday, with 1750 Yogic Flyers in the Invincible America Assembly, each of you had the effect of providing a positive influence of coherence to 175,000 of your fellow citizens. In other words, the return on investment of a single Yogic Flyer in the Assembly yesterday was 175,000 to 1; and this return did not take a year, but occurred within 3 hours. I haven't calculated the rate of return on this investment of your time, but it approaches infinity. This return to each of you on the Assembly is on an investment far more precious than money. It is a return on your action—your *karma*. And the result will be a continuous stream of positive influence in your life that will grow each day as you participate in the Assembly. There is no more efficient mechanism in the universe to accomplish so much for so little. This is the extraordinary gift of Maharishi which will allow us to make such progress for ourselves and our world in such a short time. I would like to make an appeal to all of the Sidhas to
[FairfieldLife] From Maharishi's Global Family Chat - 22nd of January 08
Kuberji: ...and we invite all the Governors here and everywhere to have Puja to Guru Dev from this fullmoon to the next fullmoon in their centers and in the groups every day, joining Maharishi-ji offering ourselves to the Totality of Brahm as we have been led by him. And to bring ourselves to the level of the blessings of Guru Dev, the light of God, for the Invincibility of every nation in Maharishi-ji's world, in Maharishi-ji`s whole family - Ihre erste Baustelle? Wissenswertes für Bastler und Hobby Handwerker.
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
Ben's style is to admit to his errors and then make the same ones all over again in his next post. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Ben Gilberti wrote: You're right. It was a reckless post and I did indulge in ranting and raving. I won't be so thoughtless in the future. We'll let it go this time, Ben... Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now, don't ya think? No more need to pretend... The religion of Guru Devism is born. It's only 11 days since Maharishi gave up control of and management of the TMO and the clowns -- I mean the Rajas -- that have taken over have, as Curtis has indicated, already gone the extra mile to solidify the religious nature of the Movement. This supports the theory that I have presented on this forum from time to time: that Maharishi abandoned the TM is not a religion or philosophy tenet of the TM Program because he was badgered to do so by the sycophants that have surrounded him for the past 35 years. And now those very sychophants have become the gate-keepers. They wore the poor man down by continually demanding that he give them the real knowledge despite his continual admonitions that the TM technique was the full and complete program. Well, Maharishi may be enlightened but he is only human. And at some point he threw his hands up and said: Okay, if you want 'the real knowledge' I guess that's what I have to GIVE you. So now we've got THIS catastrophy on our hands: Rajas, tinfoil hats, Vedic peanut butter, etc. Well, the inmates have got the reigns of the ship now and, presto!, we're prostrating once a day for the next month. Abraham? Can you please bring Isaac over to the alter? Yeah, and bring some of those briquettes, too, while you're at it... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The main point is in the headline and the paragraph highlighted in red, below. Professor Dr. John Konhaus Raja of Japan Dr Feldman announces daily global ceremony of gratitude to Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge by Global Good News staff writer Global Good NewsTranslate This Article 22 January 2008 On the 22 January Global Family Chat, broadcast daily via satellite and over the Internet on Channel 3 of the Maharishi Channel, Dr Benjamin Feldman, Minister of Finance and Planning of the Global Country of World Peace, announced a new programme for Teachers of Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation. Speaking to the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace, Dr Feldman said that 'today is the beautiful full moon of January marking the completion of the auspicious sixth month of the First Year of Invincibility', as marked by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, Founder of the Global Country of World Peace, from last Guru Purnima* [29 July 2007]. In August 2007, Maharishi started the tradition of global Puja on every full moon following Guru Purnima, the full moon in July. (Please visit the Global Good News features on Maharishi's addresses on the full moon celebrations in August and September 2007). Dr Feldman said, 'It will be our collective joy to perform Puja to Guru Dev** today, as Purusha*** . . . are doing all over the world on this auspicious day.' Puja is the Vedic ceremony of gratitude to Guru Dev and the Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge, the oldest tradition of knowledge on earth. As Maharishi explained in a recent address, 'The Puja to Guru Dev is the mechanics of nourishing every fibre of the administration of Natural Law, and of nourishing all life on earth.' Dr Feldman continued, 'And we invite all the Teachers of Transcendental Meditation here and everywhere to have Puja to Guru Dev from this full moon to the next full moon in their Centres and in their groups every day, joining Maharishiji in offering ourselves to the Totality of Brahm as we had been led by him, and to bring ourselves to the level of the blessings of Guru Dev, the Light of God, for the invincibility of every nation in Maharishiji's world, in Maharishiji's whole family of nations. 'We offer to Guru Dev our confidence. We return to Guru Dev his own blessings, Maharishiji's blessings for the world, and the absolute certainty that the 35 countries that already have invincibility in the number of [practitioners of Transcendental Meditation] and Yogic Flyers that have been trained there, and with all the 48 countries led by all the Rajas of the Global Country of World Peace together to create this memorial to peacethe Tower of Invincibility in every nationbliss will expand to fill the whole world and administration through silence will guide the world in perfection. 'So with Maharishiji and Maharajaji [Maharaja Nader Raam, first ruler of the Global Country of World Peace], each of these offerings that we offer in Puja to Guru Dev are offering the same blessings of Guru Dev to him, with Maharishiji.' Then the World Congress of Rajas and Ministers of the Global Country of World Peace took part in the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:12 PM, feste37 wrote: Ben's style is to admit to his errors and then make the same ones all over again in his next post. Maybe next time around we'll get the Cliff's Notes version. When I read posts like that, I really start to feel like I must have ADD. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Tao-Jones Index falls on news of TMmovement Sex Scandal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you mean unverified allegations by a third party about ONE administrator. Yes, yes. Except that running throughout the archives are implicit references to appetites of what seems to be a culture in there. For instance the thread that runs with this post about both John and Bevan in power: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/8220
[FairfieldLife] Number of MUM students on campus
from the 23jAN MUM Review: There are two dining halls on the second floor of the Student Center and a café on the first floor. The main dining room, for students and faculty, is located on the south end and seats 360, while the smaller north dining hall, for staff, seats 140. In between is a banquet room, with space for 110. Dining in the new facility will begin at dinner on February 1. http://www.mum.edu/TheReview/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's girls! !
Om --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, omg213 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bevan¹s not married. Men and women get together. LBS wrote: Deciding that Bevan doesn't deserve a fair shake, as far as I'm concerned, is dangerous to us all, because it's an erosion of the principle of fair play and justice. If the president of Harvard had a long string of serial affairs with 15 members or wives of administration and faculty members, and women who were leaders in the community, it would be a scandal and he would be thrown out on his ear. Further, if the Harvard president was sleeping with numerous students, he would be barred from any academic administrative job forever. If the president of Harvard was using the power and prestige of his position to seduce students, administration and faculty to an extent bordering on rape, he would probably be brought to court on criminal and civil charges. All of these things have been alleged against Bevan, apparently repeatedly and extensively. Why as president of MIU / MUM should he get a pass when any other college president would be thoroughly investigated, and if found guilty, strung up and hung, so to speak, at least on a career, academic, social and moral level? Naming women publicly sinks to the level of tabloid journalism and is uncalled for. What is called for is a thorough investigation of a college president (who also has the position of being a spritual leader / conduit / spokesperson for a spiritual community) who has many allegations of activity totally inappropriate and perhaps illegal for his position(s). Same for John Haglin. Stories circulate of his being a serial sexual predator upon MUM community and students. Any presidential candidate allegedly pursuing woman is such a predatory fashion would be thoroughly investigated and if evidence was forthcoming, he would be skewered by the press. Particularly given the double irony that he also is a spritual leader / conduit / spokesperson for a spiritual community). Why should he get a free pass? Naming women without evidence in a public forum is not the way to proceed. However, on the other hand, detailing and investigating the apparently large body of evidence against these university / spirutual leaders as sexual predators is overdue.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Natural cancer treatment center?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And in the end we all die. Exactly, which is why the thing to do is to gain the only real immortality, which is bliss consciousness: `You take a dive through Transcendental Meditation, and you are on the level of immortality.' --Maharishi Global Press Conference 18 April 2007 MERU, Holland http://www.globalgoodnews.com/scintillating-intelligence.html from the Srimad Bhagavatam: [the enlightened man] rests in his own true being. He does not identify the self with the body, which continues to live as prompted by the destiny that created it. (Book 3, Ch.28) * Though the inner controller or the spirit dwells in the body, it is not tainted by the latter's experiences (pleasure and pain). It is devoid of doership and is beyond the reach of the three qualities of nature (prakriti). It is but a totally free witness of nature. Yet, on account of the spell cast by the play of these qualities of nature, the self imagines that he is the doer of actions, he loses his peace of mind on account of this delusion, and in that self- imposed state of ignorance undergoes birth and death. The objects do not exist as such, except in the imagination of the subject; yet so long as one thinks of these objects and is attached to them, he cannot escape the wheel of birth and death, just as even non-existent events cause unhappiness to the dreamer. (Book 3, ch 27) http://tinyurl.com/ywykn6 * I do not witness 24 hours a day (which is the definition of Cosmic Consciousness), but any amount of witnessing gives great relief from the fear of mortality, since you are living your true status as an eternal silent witness of creation, and are thus less disturbed by the good and bad events of life. Bob
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp'sLaw re: hagelin had sex with a student of mum that i know
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:52 AM, feste37 wrote: I find the idea of older men inquiring around town about the sex life of a young woman disgusting. Mind your own business, Doug. Amen, feste. Finally, something you and I can agree on. Sal You two don't agree on Shemp's public interest note here? Om, which one of you agrees that there might be legitimate public interest in university officials having sex with students? Which one of you thinks not? Why? Just that everyone should mind their own business on this? Or just that older men should mind their own business about this and leave it to you two gals. Just wondering where you stand, -Doug in FF Shemp's law generally makes for a legitimate public welfare interest in this: always the question of a person in an institution who is in a position of authority and whether they are taking advantage of an underling, be it a student or an employee or a potential employee or student. (spouse of any or trustee or director or co-worker) Was Hagelin in a position of authority at the time? Well, even if he wasn't, he was by virtue of being John Hagelin and this being the TMO. Was she a student? Someone posted here that she wasn't...but was she in the TMO? An employee...potential employee or student? Sorry, these things come into play.
[FairfieldLife] 'Bill Clinton- From Sirens to Cyclops'
Bill Clinton has gone from chasing tail, And finger wagging... To somewhat of a one-eyed bully. Sad... - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
Look, I don't mind you guys having a good laugh at my stupidity, boorishness, arrogance, or god knows what other flaws that somehow are all coming into lurid evidence in this particular forum for some reason. But I've been posting things on internet forums for over 15 years now and I guess all these other forums have been humoring me into the self-flattering illusion that they actually enjoy the stuff I post. I don't know. I'm guessing that I'm really not as offensive or annoying as you're pretenting I am. I mean I'm not hateful or mean or vicious or critical or insulting or covert. I work up these little essays, it's a hobby of sorts, I've been doing it for many years. Sometimes they bomb, but often people enjoy them. On occasion they start discussions, but not always. I don't know, it can't be all that awful because folks rarely complain. I sometimes get nuked, but most often it seems to be a pleasant experience all around. Right now in fact I have another short essay I finished and already started to post in places. But I'm hesistant to post it here because it seems you're going to roll your eyes even before reading it. Maybe you're all unusually advanced in comparison to most, where most others find new ideas in my stuff where perhaps it would be virtually impossible for me to come up with anything you've long thought about and are already long sick of. I'm obviously babbling and have no point to make or argument to sell. But I always figure when relations are awkward any expression is better than stone silence. I'm stopping simply because I don't know where else to go with this or what else to say. I'm not upset or hurt or junk like that. I'm just flailing wildly on the notion maybe I'll discover something that will enable a more fortunate presence. And I've signed everything Much Love for 15 years. Too gooey? Fine. -- Ben That better? Ma --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:12 PM, feste37 wrote: Ben's style is to admit to his errors and then make the same ones all over again in his next post. Maybe next time around we'll get the Cliff's Notes version. When I read posts like that, I really start to feel like I must have ADD. Sal
[FairfieldLife] 935 lies
This may be old news, but this is a devastating new report. It's hard to know why these guys are still in office. Published on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 by Associated Press Study: Bush Led US To War on `False Pretenses' by Douglass K. Daniel A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks. The study concluded that the statements were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses. The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism. White House spokesman Scott Stanzel did not comment on the merits of the study Tuesday night but reiterated the administration's position that the world community viewed Iraq's leader, Saddam Hussein, as a threat. The actions taken in 2003 were based on the collective judgment of intelligence agencies around the world, Stanzel said. The Center for Public Integrity, a research group that focuses on ethics in government and public policy, designed the new Web site to allow simple searches for specific phrases, such as mushroom cloud or yellowcake uranium, in transcripts and documents totaling some 380,000 words, including remarks by President Bush and most of his top advisers in the two years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The study counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them, or had links to al Qaeda, or both. It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al Qaeda, according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism, writing an overview of the study. In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003. Named in the study along with Bush were top officials of the administration during the period studied: Vice President Dick Cheney, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan. Bush led with 259 false statements, 231 about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 28 about Iraq's links to al Qaeda, the study found. That was second only to Powell's 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq and al Qaeda. The center said the study was based on a database created with public statements over the two years beginning on Sept. 11, 2001, and information from more than 25 government reports, books, articles, speeches and interviews. The cumulative effect of these false statements - amplified by thousands of news stories and broadcasts - was massive, with the media coverage creating an almost impenetrable din for several critical months in the run-up to war, the study concluded. Some journalists - indeed, even some entire news organizations - have since acknowledged that their coverage during those prewar months was far too deferential and uncritical. These mea culpas notwithstanding, much of the wall-to-wall media coverage provided additional, `independent' validation of the Bush administration's false statements about Iraq, it said. There is no startling new information in the archive, because all the documents have been published previously. But the new computer tool is remarkable for its scope and its replay of the crescendo of statements that led to the war. Muckrakers may find browsing the site reminiscent of what Richard Nixon used to dismissively call wallowing in Watergate. Online resources Center for Public Integrity: www.publicintegrity.org Fund for Independence in Journalism: www.tfij.org/
Re: [FairfieldLife] 935 lies
I guess they forgot to add the ones about 9/11. - Original Message From: feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:47:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 935 lies This may be old news, but this is a devastating new report. It's hard to know why these guys are still in office. Published on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 by Associated Press Study: Bush Led US To War on `False Pretenses' by Douglass K. Daniel A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks. The study concluded that the statements were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses. The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism. White House spokesman Scott Stanzel did not comment on the merits of the study Tuesday night but reiterated the administration' s position that the world community viewed Iraq's leader, Saddam Hussein, as a threat. The actions taken in 2003 were based on the collective judgment of intelligence agencies around the world, Stanzel said. The Center for Public Integrity, a research group that focuses on ethics in government and public policy, designed the new Web site to allow simple searches for specific phrases, such as mushroom cloud or yellowcake uranium, in transcripts and documents totaling some 380,000 words, including remarks by President Bush and most of his top advisers in the two years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The study counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them, or had links to al Qaeda, or both. It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al Qaeda, according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism, writing an overview of the study. In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003. Named in the study along with Bush were top officials of the administration during the period studied: Vice President Dick Cheney, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan. Bush led with 259 false statements, 231 about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 28 about Iraq's links to al Qaeda, the study found. That was second only to Powell's 244 false statements about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and 10 about Iraq and al Qaeda. The center said the study was based on a database created with public statements over the two years beginning on Sept. 11, 2001, and information from more than 25 government reports, books, articles, speeches and interviews. The cumulative effect of these false statements - amplified by thousands of news stories and broadcasts - was massive, with the media coverage creating an almost impenetrable din for several critical months in the run-up to war, the study concluded. Some journalists - indeed, even some entire news organizations - have since acknowledged that their coverage during those prewar months was far too deferential and uncritical. These mea culpas notwithstanding, much of the wall-to-wall media coverage provided additional, `independent' validation of the Bush administration' s false statements about Iraq, it said. There is no startling new information in the archive, because all the documents have been published previously. But the new computer tool is remarkable for its scope and its replay of the crescendo of statements that led to the war. Muckrakers may find browsing the site reminiscent of what Richard Nixon used to dismissively call wallowing in Watergate. Online resources Center for Public Integrity: www.publicintegrity .org Fund for Independence in Journalism: www.tfij.org/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
Dr Feldman announces daily global ceremony of gratitude to Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge by Global Good News staff writer Please tell me that we removed that line in the intro lecture stating that TM is not a religion. What is the nonprofit designation of the TMO anyway? How can you claim it is anything but an religion.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
I think we can all safely just toss the Collected Papers now, don't ya think? No more need to pretend... The religion of Guru Devism is born. Boy, am I glad Maharishi decertified all those 10s of thousands of teachers several years ago, including me. Pressure's off. I remember when Benny droned on and on and on and on at a recent event (coronation of the Rajas I believe), I felt we had achieved a new level of ridiculousness). It was about 40 minutes of introductory lecture stuff and praise of MMY
[FairfieldLife] Re: Please communicate to all governors
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr Feldman announces daily global ceremony of gratitude to Vedic Tradition of Total Knowledge by Global Good News staff writer Please tell me that we removed that line in the intro lecture stating that TM is not a religion. What is the nonprofit designation of the TMO anyway? How can you claim it is anything but an religion. Here is what the IRS says about what can be a tax exempt organization: The exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3) are charitable, religious, educational, scientific, literary, testing for public safety, fostering national or international amateur sports competition, and preventing cruelty to children or animals. The term charitable is used in its generally accepted legal sense and includes relief of the poor, the distressed, or the underprivileged; advancement of religion; advancement of education or science; erecting or maintaining public buildings, monuments, or works; lessening the burdens of government; lessening neighborhood tensions; eliminating prejudice and discrimination; defending human and civil rights secured by law; and combating community deterioration and juvenile delinquency. http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,,id=175418,00.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:12 PM, feste37 wrote: Ben's style is to admit to his errors and then make the same ones all over again in his next post. Maybe next time around we'll get the Cliff's Notes version. When I read posts like that, I really start to feel like I must have ADD. Sal That's exactly the abbreviation I was looking for. I get ADD whenever Dr. John and Dr. BM speak, which is much too often and for much too long. My friends and I reason that since hot air floats both those guys must have those shoes full of lead you wear when working with spent uranium.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
Ben, I admire that you have hung on here in this forum after all the slings and arrows you have taken. But I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned people being more advanced on this forum. Most of us have been deeply immersed in very authentic spiritual pursuits for decades. Most are not flaky, new-age dilettantes. So we are not easily impressed by your metaphysical forays. It has been thought about before. Your writing is not bad, it just is a little too speculative for this audience. --- Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look, I don't mind you guys having a good laugh at my stupidity, boorishness, arrogance, or god knows what other flaws that somehow are all coming into lurid evidence in this particular forum for some reason. But I've been posting things on internet forums for over 15 years now and I guess all these other forums have been humoring me into the self-flattering illusion that they actually enjoy the stuff I post. I don't know. I'm guessing that I'm really not as offensive or annoying as you're pretenting I am. I mean I'm not hateful or mean or vicious or critical or insulting or covert. I work up these little essays, it's a hobby of sorts, I've been doing it for many years. Sometimes they bomb, but often people enjoy them. On occasion they start discussions, but not always. I don't know, it can't be all that awful because folks rarely complain. I sometimes get nuked, but most often it seems to be a pleasant experience all around. Right now in fact I have another short essay I finished and already started to post in places. But I'm hesistant to post it here because it seems you're going to roll your eyes even before reading it. Maybe you're all unusually advanced in comparison to most, where most others find new ideas in my stuff where perhaps it would be virtually impossible for me to come up with anything you've long thought about and are already long sick of. I'm obviously babbling and have no point to make or argument to sell. But I always figure when relations are awkward any expression is better than stone silence. I'm stopping simply because I don't know where else to go with this or what else to say. I'm not upset or hurt or junk like that. I'm just flailing wildly on the notion maybe I'll discover something that will enable a more fortunate presence. And I've signed everything Much Love for 15 years. Too gooey? Fine. -- Ben That better? Ma --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:12 PM, feste37 wrote: Ben's style is to admit to his errors and then make the same ones all over again in his next post. Maybe next time around we'll get the Cliff's Notes version. When I read posts like that, I really start to feel like I must have ADD. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[FairfieldLife] Re: George Bush caused it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Active Volcano under ice Leigh Dayton, Science writer | January 22, 2008 AN active volcano has been found under Antarctica's rapidly melting western ice sheet. Although it has not erupted for more than 2000 years, heat from the geologically active Hudson Mountains Subglacial Volcano helps explain why nearby Pine Island Glacier shrinks by more than a kilometre every year, British scientists claim. The discovery follows reports last week that Antarctica's ice cap is melting faster than previously believed. According to those findings, the greatest loss was from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the Antarctic Peninsula. Together, they lost nearly 200billion tonnes of ice in 2006 alone. Glaciologists Hugh Corr and David Vaughan of the British Antarctic Survey in Cambridge claim the discovery of the first known subglacial volcanic eruption promises to improve predictions of future sea-level rise caused by the melting of the WAIS. We believe this was the biggest eruption in Antarctica during the last 10,000 years, Dr Corr said. It blew a substantial hole in the ice sheet and generated a plume of ash and gas that rose around 12km. The team identified a large layer of volcanic ash in the ice. Additional evidence for the eruption came from ice cores collected across the continent. Writing in Nature Geoscience, Dr Corr and Dr Vaughan suggested the increased heat from the eruption, which they dated to 325BC, led to melting of the surrounding and overlying ice which, in turn, increased the flow rate of nearby glaciers. http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/01/21/antarctica-volcano.html However, he adds, the heat from the Hudson Mountains subglacial volcano would probably not affect neighbouring glaciers. It cannot explain the more widespread thinning of West Antarctic glaciers that together are contributing nearly 0.2 mm per year to sea-level rise, Vaughan said. This wider change most probably has its origin in warming ocean waters.
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben, I admire that you have hung on here in this forum after all the slings and arrows you have taken. But I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned people being more advanced on this forum. An opinion not universally shared, I'm sure, by many of our neighbors in Fairfield. Posters to FFL are considered 'devolved to stone age status', or 'loaded with recently acquired negative karma' for posting that which isn't the TB party - line. Even lurking is considered dangerous to one's evolution. Warnings to avoid destabilizing one's innocence certainly lay bare the fallacy of theory that the prime mover of relative events on a macro scale are due to the collective consciousness of group program generated by such fragile minds. Most of us have been deeply immersed in very authentic spiritual pursuits for decades. Most are not flaky, new-age dilettantes. So we are not easily impressed by your metaphysical forays. It has been thought about before. Your writing is not bad, it just is a little too speculative for this audience. --- Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look, I don't mind you guys having a good laugh at my stupidity, boorishness, arrogance, or god knows what other flaws that somehow are all coming into lurid evidence in this particular forum for some reason. But I've been posting things on internet forums for over 15 years now and I guess all these other forums have been humoring me into the self-flattering illusion that they actually enjoy the stuff I post. I don't know. I'm guessing that I'm really not as offensive or annoying as you're pretenting I am. I mean I'm not hateful or mean or vicious or critical or insulting or covert. I work up these little essays, it's a hobby of sorts, I've been doing it for many years. Sometimes they bomb, but often people enjoy them. On occasion they start discussions, but not always. I don't know, it can't be all that awful because folks rarely complain. I sometimes get nuked, but most often it seems to be a pleasant experience all around. Right now in fact I have another short essay I finished and already started to post in places. But I'm hesistant to post it here because it seems you're going to roll your eyes even before reading it. Maybe you're all unusually advanced in comparison to most, where most others find new ideas in my stuff where perhaps it would be virtually impossible for me to come up with anything you've long thought about and are already long sick of. I'm obviously babbling and have no point to make or argument to sell. But I always figure when relations are awkward any expression is better than stone silence. I'm stopping simply because I don't know where else to go with this or what else to say. I'm not upset or hurt or junk like that. I'm just flailing wildly on the notion maybe I'll discover something that will enable a more fortunate presence. And I've signed everything Much Love for 15 years. Too gooey? Fine. -- Ben That better? Ma --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:12 PM, feste37 wrote: Ben's style is to admit to his errors and then make the same ones all over again in his next post. Maybe next time around we'll get the Cliff's Notes version. When I read posts like that, I really start to feel like I must have ADD. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
Thanks, Peter. I must say, I'm very glad to have finally come to realize that the situation is as you've described, though it took me long enough, so that I need persist in posting things that in this forum are clearly foolish. And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. That's far more promising and interesting than being revered by loveable simpletons. Perhaps for the first time in years I may actually learn something. -- Ben Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben, I admire that you have hung on here in this forum after all the slings and arrows you have taken. But I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned people being more advanced on this forum. Most of us have been deeply immersed in very authentic spiritual pursuits for decades. Most are not flaky, new-age dilettantes. So we are not easily impressed by your metaphysical forays. It has been thought about before. Your writing is not bad, it just is a little too speculative for this audience. --- Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look, I don't mind you guys having a good laugh at my stupidity, boorishness, arrogance, or god knows what other flaws that somehow are all coming into lurid evidence in this particular forum for some reason. But I've been posting things on internet forums for over 15 years now and I guess all these other forums have been humoring me into the self-flattering illusion that they actually enjoy the stuff I post. I don't know. I'm guessing that I'm really not as offensive or annoying as you're pretenting I am. I mean I'm not hateful or mean or vicious or critical or insulting or covert. I work up these little essays, it's a hobby of sorts, I've been doing it for many years. Sometimes they bomb, but often people enjoy them. On occasion they start discussions, but not always. I don't know, it can't be all that awful because folks rarely complain. I sometimes get nuked, but most often it seems to be a pleasant experience all around. Right now in fact I have another short essay I finished and already started to post in places. But I'm hesistant to post it here because it seems you're going to roll your eyes even before reading it. Maybe you're all unusually advanced in comparison to most, where most others find new ideas in my stuff where perhaps it would be virtually impossible for me to come up with anything you've long thought about and are already long sick of. I'm obviously babbling and have no point to make or argument to sell. But I always figure when relations are awkward any expression is better than stone silence. I'm stopping simply because I don't know where else to go with this or what else to say. I'm not upset or hurt or junk like that. I'm just flailing wildly on the notion maybe I'll discover something that will enable a more fortunate presence. And I've signed everything Much Love for 15 years. Too gooey? Fine. -- Ben That better? Ma --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:12 PM, feste37 wrote: Ben's style is to admit to his errors and then make the same ones all over again in his next post. Maybe next time around we'll get the Cliff's Notes version. When I read posts like that, I really start to feel like I must have ADD. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
[FairfieldLife] Re: this sex thing goes a lot deeper
And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. Equal is another option mate. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Peter. I must say, I'm very glad to have finally come to realize that the situation is as you've described, though it took me long enough, so that I need persist in posting things that in this forum are clearly foolish. And I couldn't be happier to discover a group that's smarter than me. That's far more promising and interesting than being revered by loveable simpletons. Perhaps for the first time in years I may actually learn something. -- Ben Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben, I admire that you have hung on here in this forum after all the slings and arrows you have taken. But I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned people being more advanced on this forum. Most of us have been deeply immersed in very authentic spiritual pursuits for decades. Most are not flaky, new-age dilettantes. So we are not easily impressed by your metaphysical forays. It has been thought about before. Your writing is not bad, it just is a little too speculative for this audience. --- Ben Gilberti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look, I don't mind you guys having a good laugh at my stupidity, boorishness, arrogance, or god knows what other flaws that somehow are all coming into lurid evidence in this particular forum for some reason. But I've been posting things on internet forums for over 15 years now and I guess all these other forums have been humoring me into the self-flattering illusion that they actually enjoy the stuff I post. I don't know. I'm guessing that I'm really not as offensive or annoying as you're pretenting I am. I mean I'm not hateful or mean or vicious or critical or insulting or covert. I work up these little essays, it's a hobby of sorts, I've been doing it for many years. Sometimes they bomb, but often people enjoy them. On occasion they start discussions, but not always. I don't know, it can't be all that awful because folks rarely complain. I sometimes get nuked, but most often it seems to be a pleasant experience all around. Right now in fact I have another short essay I finished and already started to post in places. But I'm hesistant to post it here because it seems you're going to roll your eyes even before reading it. Maybe you're all unusually advanced in comparison to most, where most others find new ideas in my stuff where perhaps it would be virtually impossible for me to come up with anything you've long thought about and are already long sick of. I'm obviously babbling and have no point to make or argument to sell. But I always figure when relations are awkward any expression is better than stone silence. I'm stopping simply because I don't know where else to go with this or what else to say. I'm not upset or hurt or junk like that. I'm just flailing wildly on the notion maybe I'll discover something that will enable a more fortunate presence. And I've signed everything Much Love for 15 years. Too gooey? Fine. -- Ben That better? Ma --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jan 23, 2008, at 4:12 PM, feste37 wrote: Ben's style is to admit to his errors and then make the same ones all over again in his next post. Maybe next time around we'll get the Cliff's Notes version. When I read posts like that, I really start to feel like I must have ADD. Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.