Re: [Finale] MIDI volume send?
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:39 PM, wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:20 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: > >> >> On 2009/09/05, at 15:51, toronado...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Each time I press play, before a single note has been played (even if no >>> notes are entered in the score yet) volume controller messages are being >>> sent to my MIDI keyboard for each track. This is volume, not key >>> velocity. >>> I've tried turning off H.P., unchecking "send patches before play", and >>> changing the values of the levels in the instrument list and mixer, all >>> to >>> no avail. The volume leveles are being set to 64 even though they say 100 >>> (or anything else) in the instrument list. I created this score using the >>> wizard. Anyone know what is going on? >>> >> >> >> Apology if I am not understanding this, but are you talking about _volume_ >> as in CC7? I have a feeling you are mistaking with channel gain as in CC11. >> If you do not wish that to happen, you should filter it at the destination. >> If you use a MIDI interface such as MOTU MTP/AV, you can filter it on the >> hardware. >> >> I'd imagine you can insert CC11 at the beginning of each track in Finale, >> no? Altho you are seeing 64 is odd. The standard is 110. > > > The standard is 110? For which? Controller 7 or 11? I'm pretty sure I'm > talking about controller 7 because this is the basic volume level of each > MIDI channel. > > If I create a new default document and in the instrument list, the level > for the default first staff is 101, and it becomes 110 on my MIDI > keyboard when I press play. So something is multiplying it by like 109% or > something. > > But if I create a new "document without libararies" I get the expected > behavior of exactly what appears in the instrument list in the vol. column > being sent to the MIDI keyboard. This is the way I normally set the > overall volume for tracks. > > So there is something in my default document (and apparently also in the > documents I create with the Wizard) which differs from this. > > > > > Just wanted to clarify one thing... In the document in question (the one I originally asked about), if I set the vol. in the inst. list to 101, it becomes 64 on the MIDI instrument, if I set it to 100, it becomes 63, if i set it to 50, it becomes 31, if I set it to 90 it becomes 57, and so on. So something is multiplying it by some less than 100% factor in this docment. In the default document it gets mutliplied by slightly more than 100%. If I create a document without libraries it is multiplied by excactly 100%. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] MIDI volume send?
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:20 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: > > On 2009/09/05, at 15:51, toronado...@gmail.com wrote: > > Each time I press play, before a single note has been played (even if no >> notes are entered in the score yet) volume controller messages are being >> sent to my MIDI keyboard for each track. This is volume, not key velocity. >> I've tried turning off H.P., unchecking "send patches before play", and >> changing the values of the levels in the instrument list and mixer, all to >> no avail. The volume leveles are being set to 64 even though they say 100 >> (or anything else) in the instrument list. I created this score using the >> wizard. Anyone know what is going on? >> > > > Apology if I am not understanding this, but are you talking about _volume_ > as in CC7? I have a feeling you are mistaking with channel gain as in CC11. > If you do not wish that to happen, you should filter it at the destination. > If you use a MIDI interface such as MOTU MTP/AV, you can filter it on the > hardware. > > I'd imagine you can insert CC11 at the beginning of each track in Finale, > no? Altho you are seeing 64 is odd. The standard is 110. The standard is 110? For which? Controller 7 or 11? I'm pretty sure I'm talking about controller 7 because this is the basic volume level of each MIDI channel. If I create a new default document and in the instrument list, the level for the default first staff is 101, and it becomes 110 on my MIDI keyboard when I press play. So something is multiplying it by like 109% or something. But if I create a new "document without libararies" I get the expected behavior of exactly what appears in the instrument list in the vol. column being sent to the MIDI keyboard. This is the way I normally set the overall volume for tracks. So there is something in my default document (and apparently also in the documents I create with the Wizard) which differs from this. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] MIDI volume send?
On 2009/09/05, at 15:51, toronado...@gmail.com wrote: Each time I press play, before a single note has been played (even if no notes are entered in the score yet) volume controller messages are being sent to my MIDI keyboard for each track. This is volume, not key velocity. I've tried turning off H.P., unchecking "send patches before play", and changing the values of the levels in the instrument list and mixer, all to no avail. The volume leveles are being set to 64 even though they say 100 (or anything else) in the instrument list. I created this score using the wizard. Anyone know what is going on? Apology if I am not understanding this, but are you talking about _volume_ as in CC7? I have a feeling you are mistaking with channel gain as in CC11. If you do not wish that to happen, you should filter it at the destination. If you use a MIDI interface such as MOTU MTP/ AV, you can filter it on the hardware. I'd imagine you can insert CC11 at the beginning of each track in Finale, no? Altho you are seeing 64 is odd. The standard is 110. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Greater Boston http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
