[Fink-devel] Better error message...

[Bill Bumgarner]

 when the user doesn't have the dev tools installed?

I just tried to do a 'fink selfupdate' on a system that only has the user 
stuff installed (silly me-- i rebuilt the system at a whim and forgot to 
install the dev tools as it is primarily a server).

The error message returned was not at all indicative of the lack of dev 
tools-- Fink complained about /sw/fink.tmp/fink not existing (or something 
like that) as a result of the cvs binary not being found.

A better error message would be helpful.   Obviously, this is about as low 
of a priority request as can be.


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Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Base-SSL Compile Error

[Kyle Moffett]

On Sunday, June 2, 2002, at 02:34 PM, Jean-François Mertens wrote:
> I notice that XftConfig lies in  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/
> and similarly there is an Xft dir in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/  ,
> containing both Xft.h and XftFreetype.h .
>
> In my log file I have :
> ...
> checking for Xft/XRender X11/Xft/Xft.h... checking X11/Xft/Xft.h 
> usability... yes
> checking X11/Xft/Xft.h presence... yes
> checking for X11/Xft/Xft.h... yes
> (do you have those "yes" ?)

Yes, that is exactly what mine says

> checking for X... libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include
>  (the subdirs "X11" are not there)

Yes, that is because X11 includes are included by:
#include 

This is very puzzling

> and in the whole log I SEEM to find no references to those subdirs.

Well in the files they are referenced that way:
#include 

> Kyle, I do have links equivalent to X11->/usr/X11R6/lib/X11 and 
> X11->/usr/X11R6/include/X11
> in /usr/local/{lib,include}/ .
> Do you have equivalent links ?

No I don't, what version/revision of xfree86-base and xfree86-rootless 
are you using?

> JF Mertens

Thanks for the help,
Kyle Moffett


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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Information on KDE startup

[William McCallum]

O.K., I see now that removing libxpg4 also solves the KDE startup 
problem (I just tried it). I assume that it *is* safe to post this info 
to fink-users?

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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Information on KDE startup

[William McCallum]

JF Mertens wrote:

> On Sunday, June 2, 2002, at 08:38 , William McCallum wrote:
>
> > O.K. (duh!), putting the line
> >
> > unset DYLD_FORCE_FLAT_NAMESPACE
> >
> > into my .xinitrc file before calling dkeinit (but after sourcing
> > /sw/bin/init.sh) enables me to have a normal KDE startup.
> >
> > Should I post this to fink-users, or is there something dangerous and
> > evil about doing this?
> >
> No, don't post yet. You have libxpg4 installed, no ?
>
> JF Mertens
>

Yes, I have libxpg4 installed. Does it need DYLD_FORCE_FLAT_NAMESPACE to 
be set to 1?

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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Information on KDE startup

[Jean-François Mertens]

On Sunday, June 2, 2002, at 08:38 , William McCallum wrote:

> O.K. (duh!), putting the line
>
> unset DYLD_FORCE_FLAT_NAMESPACE
>
> into my .xinitrc file before calling dkeinit (but after sourcing 
> /sw/bin/init.sh) enables me to have a normal KDE startup.
>
> Should I post this to fink-users, or is there something dangerous and 
> evil about doing this?
>
No, don't post yet. You have libxpg4 installed, no ?

JF Mertens


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[Fink-devel] Re: Information on KDE startup

[William McCallum]

O.K. (duh!), putting the line

unset DYLD_FORCE_FLAT_NAMESPACE

into my .xinitrc file before calling dkeinit (but after sourcing 
/sw/bin/init.sh) enables me to have a normal KDE startup.

Should I post this to fink-users, or is there something dangerous and 
evil about doing this?

Regards,
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Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Base-SSL Compile Error

[Jean-François Mertens]

I notice that XftConfig lies in  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/
and similarly there is an Xft dir in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/  ,
containing both Xft.h and XftFreetype.h .

In my log file I have :
...
checking for Xft/XRender X11/Xft/Xft.h... checking X11/Xft/Xft.h 
usability... yes
checking X11/Xft/Xft.h presence... yes
checking for X11/Xft/Xft.h... yes
(do you have those "yes" ?)
...
checking for X... libraries /usr/X11R6/lib, headers /usr/X11R6/include
  (the subdirs "X11" are not there)

and in the whole log I SEEM to find no references to those subdirs.

Kyle, I do have links equivalent to X11->/usr/X11R6/lib/X11 and 
X11->/usr/X11R6/include/X11
in /usr/local/{lib,include}/ .
Do you have equivalent links ?

JF Mertens


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[Fink-devel] Information on KDE startup

[William McCallum]

I'm posting this here in case it might be useful to the people working 
on KDE.

The problem with KDE startup that I described earlier (same one Douglas 
Wing was having) was caused by kdeinit being unhappy about multiple 
definitions of the variable _name (see the log I posted to fink-users 
earlier). This problem goes away if I do unsetenv  
DYLD_FORCE_FLAT_NAMESPACE (it was set to 1). I tried this after reading 
the dyld man page. I still can't get a normal startup, because it 
appears that the variable gets reset to 1 (by XDarwin?), so that if I 
try to start KDE using the recommended method via XDarwin I get the same 
error log as before. However, if I start up XDarwin with ICEwm, for 
example, then open up a terminal, unset the variable, then launch 
kdeinit, it runs through its paces without giving the error message 
about multiple definitions, and without giving any other error message 
(but also without anything noticeable happening to the desktop 
environment).

Regards,
Bill McCallum


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Re: [Fink-devel] Fwd: preparing for the next system release

[Chris Zubrzycki]

On Sunday, June 2, 2002, at 10:46 AM, Max Horn wrote:
Chris,
> I wonder if you are following the fink-devel list at all? I can't explain your 
>message otherwise.

Sorry, I was not clear. I know several people are working with the April dev tools. I 
am one. But working with the April Dev tools you can choose to use gcc2 or gcc3. I was 
asking more developers to use gcc3, so we can be more prepared, and quicker. Some 
programs that use c++ with gcc2 need heavy patching and/or a new version to compile 
with gcc3, and a few of them are needed for many other things to compile.

> Many of us actual now have Seed copiesof 10.2. We are aware of the problems, we even 
>have a web page dedicated to it: http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/porting/preparing.php

I know, I have been trying to get as much as I can working under It, but my skills are 
limited. I was just asking for more people to help out, if they could. It is very 
frustrating to come to problems you do not know how to fix.

-chris zubrzycki


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Re: [Fink-devel] Fwd: preparing for the next system release

[Max Horn]

Chris,

I wonder if you are following the fink-devel list at all? I can't 
explain your message otherwise.

Once more for you: several Fink developers are testing with the April 
Dev tools. Many of us actual now have Seed copiesof 10.2. We are 
aware of the problems, we even have a web page dedicated to it: 
http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/porting/preparing.php


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[Fink-devel] Fwd: preparing for the next system release

[Chris Zubrzycki]

The word on the grapevine says that the next major system release will be based on gcc 
3.1. I am making the request that at least some developers make the switch early, by 
using the april dev tools set to use gcc3. (gcc_select 3). a few things do not work, 
apt, readline, openjade, and probably more. If we dont do this, Bad Things will happen 
when everyone cannot upgrade, because everything that uses c++ must be recompiled.

Thanks for all the work everyone's been doing so far  :-)

Oh, and I have been putting some patches on the package tracker to get things to 
compile.


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Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Base-SSL Compile Error

[Chris Zubrzycki]

I did build the whole kde set, with the april dev tools. this was shortly beofre they 
were put into unstable.
On Sunday, June 2, 2002, at 07:42  AM, Jean-François Mertens wrote:

>
> On Sunday, June 2, 2002, at 03:59 , Ben Hines wrote:
>
>> Something is presumably wrong with his installation.  kdebase3-ssl installed fine 
>here, though with the december tools installed, and i used the "bundle-kde-ssl" 
>bundle to install it. That might have made a difference.
>
> Something is then wrong with my installation (april tools) too:
> I get the same error, with "fink install kdebase3-ssl" _ after
> installing via "fink install" arts , arts-dev ,  kdelibs3-ssl and
> kdelibs3-ssl-dev in that order.

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Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Base-SSL Compile Error

[Kyle Moffett]

I think that it is the presence of gcc as well as cc that is causing the 
problem.  Perhaps the cc portions were patched, but for gcc some 
additional flag gets passed, etc.

Thanks,
Kyle Moffett

On Sunday, June 2, 2002, at 07:42 AM, Jean-François Mertens wrote:
> On Sunday, June 2, 2002, at 03:59 , Ben Hines wrote:
>
>> Something is presumably wrong with his installation.  kdebase3-ssl 
>> installed fine here, though with the december tools installed, and i 
>> used the "bundle-kde-ssl" bundle to install it. That might have made a 
>> difference.
>
> Something is then wrong with my installation (april tools) too:
> I get the same error, with "fink install kdebase3-ssl" _ after
> installing via "fink install" arts , arts-dev ,  kdelibs3-ssl and
> kdelibs3-ssl-dev in that order.


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Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Base-SSL Compile Error

[Jean-François Mertens]

On Sunday, June 2, 2002, at 03:59 , Ben Hines wrote:

> Something is presumably wrong with his installation.  kdebase3-ssl 
> installed fine here, though with the december tools installed, and i 
> used the "bundle-kde-ssl" bundle to install it. That might have made a 
> difference.

Something is then wrong with my installation (april tools) too:
I get the same error, with "fink install kdebase3-ssl" _ after
installing via "fink install" arts , arts-dev ,  kdelibs3-ssl and
kdelibs3-ssl-dev in that order.

JF Mertens


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Re: [Fink-devel] KDE-Base-SSL Compile Error

[Max Horn]

At 18:20 Uhr -0700 01.06.2002, Torrey T. Lyons wrote:

[...]

>While I'm on the subject, I see you are using Fink's libfreetype 
>instead of XFree86's. That's fine, but I'm curious what the 
>difference is? (Again you should be able to just use -lfreetype 
>since -L/sw/lib is listed before /usr/X11R6/lib.)

Good question, I don't think they are really different (functionality 
wise) except maybe that the Fink version is probably newer 
(considerng that XFree86 4.2.0 is now some months old. But they are 
not link compatible:

[localhost:~] maxhorn% otool -L /sw/lib/libfreetype.dylib
/sw/lib/libfreetype.dylib:
 /sw/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib (compatibility version 9.0.0, 
current version 9.0.0)
 /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, 
current version 55.0.0)
[localhost:~] maxhorn% [localhost:~] maxhorn% otool -L 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.dylib
/usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.dylib:
 /usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib (compatibility version 
6.2.0, current version 6.2.0)
 /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, 
current version 55.0.0)

Frankly I am not quite sure why this difference is there. In theory, 
our freetype2 should also work w/o X11 (e.g. rendering into a 
framebuffer). I am not sure how long the Freetype2 shlibs have been 
around in XFree86, and how long in Fink, resp., either, now that I 
think about it :-)



>--Torrey
>(Who asks a lot of questions. :-)

You're welcome :-)


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Re: [Fink-devel] /sw/include/apt-pkg docs?

[Max Horn]

At 23:32 Uhr -0400 01.06.2002, Kyle Moffett wrote:
>Does anybody know where I can find docs or reference stuff or file 
>descriptions of the apt headers in /sw/include/apt-pkg?

THe only docs I know are the comments in tbe headers themselves, and 
reading the source code.


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