Re: [Fink-users] Downloads stalling...

2016-05-31 Thread Alexander Hansen

> On May 31, 2016, at 11:16, Jess H. Brewer  wrote:
> 
> On 05/31/2016 11:10 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2016, at 10:29, Jess H. Brewer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 05/31/2016 08:47 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> One question on the login method:  is that a terminal logged in to a
>> root account, or accessed via “sudo -s” or “su”, etc. ?
>> 
>> —akh
> 
> # su -
> 
> (When I'm root, I want to stay root.  :-)
> 
> -- Jess
 
 I don’t know if it will make a difference, but you might try setting
 
 RootMethod: none
 
 in /sw/etc/fink.conf if you haven’t done that already.—akh
>>> 
>>> It was already set.  Shall I try something different?
>>> 
>>> I seem to be able to "chip away" at updating from source: although just
>>> running # fink update-all  fails after a few packages, it does update a
>>> few -- less each time I run it -- until it fails immediately; then I
>>> "manually" update a few from the list and try again.  Then update-all
>>> gets a few more  I've done this before; eventually I get up to date
>>> (or almost so) and then I seem to be able to go back to normal.  I
>>> wonder if the failure on downloading binaries is due to some specific
>>> package needing updating?
>>> 
>>> Cheers — Jess
>>> 
>> 
>> I’m honestly not sure.  What’s failing to download isn’t a particular 
>> package, though, but an index for all of the packages.
>> 
>> Is it possible that you are happening upon updates which _aren’t_ in the 
>> binary distribution due to new versions/revisions, and therefore are being 
>> built from source?
>> 
>> —akh
> 
> Anything is possible.  How would I tell?  -- Jess
> 
> 

You can use “fink dumpinfo -fallversions ”.  As a local example:

Fionna-3:~ hansen$ apt-cache policy maxima
maxima:
  Installed: 5.38.1-2
  Candidate: 5.38.1-2
  Version Table:
 *** 5.38.1-2 0
500 file: stable/main Packages
100 /sw/var/lib/dpkg/status
 5.38.1-1 0
500 file: stable/main Packages
500 http://bindist.finkmirrors.net stable/main Packages

If the newest version of the package doesn’t show a remote URI, like 
maxima-5.38.1-2 above, then it is newer than the binary distribution’s 
version—or at least your local copy of that information, since if “apt-get 
update” isn’t working it won’t be synced.

—akh
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Re: [Fink-users] Downloads stalling...

2016-05-31 Thread Alexander Hansen

> On May 31, 2016, at 11:14, Jess H. Brewer  wrote:
> 
> On 05/31/2016 10:29 AM, Jess H. Brewer wrote:
>> On 05/31/2016 08:47 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
> 
> 
> One question on the login method:  is that a terminal logged in to a
> root account, or accessed via “sudo -s” or “su”, etc. ?
> 
> —akh
 
 # su -
 
 (When I'm root, I want to stay root.  :-)
 
 -- Jess
>>> 
>>> I don’t know if it will make a difference, but you might try setting
>>> 
>>> RootMethod: none
>>> 
>>> in /sw/etc/fink.conf if you haven’t done that already.—akh
>> 
>> It was already set.  Shall I try something different?
>> 
>> I seem to be able to "chip away" at updating from source: although just
>> running # fink update-all  fails after a few packages, it does update a
>> few -- less each time I run it -- until it fails immediately; then I
>> "manually" update a few from the list and try again.  Then update-all
>> gets a few more  I've done this before; eventually I get up to date
>> (or almost so) and then I seem to be able to go back to normal.  I
>> wonder if the failure on downloading binaries is due to some specific
>> package needing updating?
>> 
>> Cheers -- Jess
> 
> Hmmm, a new(?) glitch -- I can't seem to get past this error:
> ___
> 
> The following packages must be temporarily removed, but there are no 
> .debs to restore them from:
> 
>   libev4 libev4
> 
> Exiting with failure.
> 
> 
> (Yes, it lists the same package twice.) 
> 
> Cheers -- Jess
> 
> 


> 
> Aha.  I removed it and reinstalled it; that seems to get me past that 
> block.  I think.
> 
> — Jess

It should.  In general “fink rebuild package” should generate a local .deb file 
for you, barring a build error.  The  code which swaps out build conflicts 
insists upon having a .deb available to restore whatever it removed.  

The error message could be enhanced to spell out what the remedy actually is.
-- 
Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison

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Re: [Fink-users] Downloads stalling...

2016-05-31 Thread Jess H. Brewer
On 05/31/2016 11:16 AM, Jess H. Brewer wrote:
> On 05/31/2016 11:10 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
>>
>>> On May 31, 2016, at 10:29, Jess H. Brewer  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 05/31/2016 08:47 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
>>
>>
>> One question on the login method:  is that a terminal logged in to a
>> root account, or accessed via “sudo -s” or “su”, etc. ?
>>
>> —akh
>
> # su -
>
> (When I'm root, I want to stay root.  :-)
>
> -- Jess

 I don’t know if it will make a difference, but you might try setting

 RootMethod: none

 in /sw/etc/fink.conf if you haven’t done that already.—akh
>>>
>>> It was already set.  Shall I try something different?
>>>
>>> I seem to be able to "chip away" at updating from source: although just
>>> running # fink update-all  fails after a few packages, it does update a
>>> few -- less each time I run it -- until it fails immediately; then I
>>> "manually" update a few from the list and try again.  Then update-all
>>> gets a few more  I've done this before; eventually I get up to date
>>> (or almost so) and then I seem to be able to go back to normal.  I
>>> wonder if the failure on downloading binaries is due to some specific
>>> package needing updating?
>>>
>>> Cheers — Jess
>>>
>>
>> I’m honestly not sure.  What’s failing to download isn’t a particular
>> package, though, but an index for all of the packages.
>>
>> Is it possible that you are happening upon updates which _aren’t_ in
>> the binary distribution due to new versions/revisions, and therefore
>> are being built from source?
>>
>> —akh
>
> Anything is possible.  How would I tell?  -- Jess

Aha.  I removed it and reinstalled it; that seems to get me past that 
block.  I think.

-- Jess


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Re: [Fink-users] Downloads stalling...

2016-05-31 Thread Jess H. Brewer
On 05/31/2016 11:10 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
>
>> On May 31, 2016, at 10:29, Jess H. Brewer  wrote:
>>
>> On 05/31/2016 08:47 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
>
>
> One question on the login method:  is that a terminal logged in to a
> root account, or accessed via “sudo -s” or “su”, etc. ?
>
> —akh

 # su -

 (When I'm root, I want to stay root.  :-)

 -- Jess
>>>
>>> I don’t know if it will make a difference, but you might try setting
>>>
>>> RootMethod: none
>>>
>>> in /sw/etc/fink.conf if you haven’t done that already.—akh
>>
>> It was already set.  Shall I try something different?
>>
>> I seem to be able to "chip away" at updating from source: although just
>> running # fink update-all  fails after a few packages, it does update a
>> few -- less each time I run it -- until it fails immediately; then I
>> "manually" update a few from the list and try again.  Then update-all
>> gets a few more  I've done this before; eventually I get up to date
>> (or almost so) and then I seem to be able to go back to normal.  I
>> wonder if the failure on downloading binaries is due to some specific
>> package needing updating?
>>
>> Cheers — Jess
>>
>
> I’m honestly not sure.  What’s failing to download isn’t a particular 
> package, though, but an index for all of the packages.
>
> Is it possible that you are happening upon updates which _aren’t_ in the 
> binary distribution due to new versions/revisions, and therefore are being 
> built from source?
>
> —akh

Anything is possible.  How would I tell?  -- Jess



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Re: [Fink-users] Downloads stalling...

2016-05-31 Thread Jess H. Brewer
On 05/31/2016 10:29 AM, Jess H. Brewer wrote:
> On 05/31/2016 08:47 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:


 One question on the login method:  is that a terminal logged in to a
 root account, or accessed via “sudo -s” or “su”, etc. ?

 —akh
>>>
>>> # su -
>>>
>>> (When I'm root, I want to stay root.  :-)
>>>
>>> -- Jess
>>
>> I don’t know if it will make a difference, but you might try setting
>>
>> RootMethod: none
>>
>> in /sw/etc/fink.conf if you haven’t done that already.—akh
>
> It was already set.  Shall I try something different?
>
> I seem to be able to "chip away" at updating from source: although just
> running # fink update-all  fails after a few packages, it does update a
> few -- less each time I run it -- until it fails immediately; then I
> "manually" update a few from the list and try again.  Then update-all
> gets a few more  I've done this before; eventually I get up to date
> (or almost so) and then I seem to be able to go back to normal.  I
> wonder if the failure on downloading binaries is due to some specific
> package needing updating?
>
> Cheers -- Jess

Hmmm, a new(?) glitch -- I can't seem to get past this error:
___

The following packages must be temporarily removed, but there are no 
.debs to restore them from:

   libev4 libev4

Exiting with failure.


(Yes, it lists the same package twice.) 

Cheers -- Jess


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Re: [Fink-users] Downloads stalling...

2016-05-31 Thread Alexander Hansen

> On May 31, 2016, at 10:29, Jess H. Brewer  wrote:
> 
> On 05/31/2016 08:47 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
 
 
 One question on the login method:  is that a terminal logged in to a
 root account, or accessed via “sudo -s” or “su”, etc. ?
 
 —akh
>>> 
>>> # su -
>>> 
>>> (When I'm root, I want to stay root.  :-)
>>> 
>>> -- Jess
>> 
>> I don’t know if it will make a difference, but you might try setting
>> 
>> RootMethod: none
>> 
>> in /sw/etc/fink.conf if you haven’t done that already.—akh
> 
> It was already set.  Shall I try something different?
> 
> I seem to be able to "chip away" at updating from source: although just 
> running # fink update-all  fails after a few packages, it does update a 
> few -- less each time I run it -- until it fails immediately; then I 
> "manually" update a few from the list and try again.  Then update-all 
> gets a few more  I've done this before; eventually I get up to date 
> (or almost so) and then I seem to be able to go back to normal.  I 
> wonder if the failure on downloading binaries is due to some specific 
> package needing updating?
> 
> Cheers — Jess
> 

I’m honestly not sure.  What’s failing to download isn’t a particular package, 
though, but an index for all of the packages.  

Is it possible that you are happening upon updates which _aren’t_ in the binary 
distribution due to new versions/revisions, and therefore are being built from 
source?

—akh
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Re: [Fink-users] Downloads stalling...

2016-05-31 Thread Jess H. Brewer
On 05/31/2016 08:47 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> One question on the login method:  is that a terminal logged in to a
>>> root account, or accessed via “sudo -s” or “su”, etc. ?
>>>
>>> —akh
>>
>> # su -
>>
>> (When I'm root, I want to stay root.  :-)
>>
>> -- Jess
>
> I don’t know if it will make a difference, but you might try setting
>
> RootMethod: none
>
> in /sw/etc/fink.conf if you haven’t done that already.—akh

It was already set.  Shall I try something different?

I seem to be able to "chip away" at updating from source: although just 
running # fink update-all  fails after a few packages, it does update a 
few -- less each time I run it -- until it fails immediately; then I 
"manually" update a few from the list and try again.  Then update-all 
gets a few more  I've done this before; eventually I get up to date 
(or almost so) and then I seem to be able to go back to normal.  I 
wonder if the failure on downloading binaries is due to some specific 
package needing updating?

Cheers -- Jess


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Re: [Fink-users] Downloads stalling...

2016-05-31 Thread Alexander Hansen
>> 
>> 
>> One question on the login method:  is that a terminal logged in to a
>> root account, or accessed via “sudo -s” or “su”, etc. ?
>> 
>> —akh
> 
> # su -
> 
> (When I'm root, I want to stay root.  :-)
> 
> -- Jess

I don’t know if it will make a difference, but you might try setting 

RootMethod: none

in /sw/etc/fink.conf if you haven’t done that already.—akh


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