Ebay Listing
This message is from: Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi...I have listed a fun pair of earrings on ebay, if anyone is interested in the eight- legged fjord that carried the God Odin around. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=104615733 This other one is the Pin that I wrote about earlier. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAP.dll?ViewItem$item=104619733 Forgive me for the advertising...
Rode Tyr today!
This message is from: Mike and Casey Rogillio [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got to ride Tyr today, bareback and under the command of my helper (thanks Mike!) on the lead rope, but hey, it's a start, no?! I compiled and printed out all the responses I'd gotten to my letter about Tyr bucking and have been mulling the situation over. There were several recurring themes - reduce the pressure for him, go back to a safe spot, introduce things slowly. So I've been waiting for my husband to be able to help me, since I didn't think it was safe to do alone and today was the day. I decided to use a step and 'climb' up on him bareback. This is actually pretty easy since he's 13h. (132cm) if he's stretching up (!) and I'm 5'10 (1.778 meters for our metric friends) so a small portable step worked well as a mounting block. Last I knew, he was just fine being led about with the kids on him bareback and in a saddle, so I decided to go back there as it were, w/out the saddle, and see how he did. My thinking is that I'll get him more and more used to longer distances w/me on his back, then phase in the saddle and reins and phase out the leader. I've got to find another leader, my husband is just NOT into this stuff! I don't want to risk my kids on him in case he does buck, so I'll just continue to go with me or someone about my weight on him for awhile. I want to find a clicker and begin to train them both that way too. Thank you, all, for your words of support and encouragement and ideas. I'll keep you posted on our progress, hopefully there's lots more forwards than there is backwards!! Casey Tyr in Alabama
Re: Fjord Breeders' Association
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - Mary Thurman wrote me this great letter - Carol, If breeders form their own organization to help each other and to better the breed through their common interest, I see nothing wrong with a Breeders Association. --- Mary, Exactly what I had in mind. I broached this subject saying I was putting out feelers to see if there was interest. I said there was no such organization at present, and any rules or regulations would be created by the eventual members. -- -- In this vein, it would be virtually the same as our Promotional Groups - a group of people getting together to do what they can to promote the breed as a whole. These are our using horse groups. They sponsor shows, clinics, etc., to help those who use Fjords do that better. - Yes, exactly what I had in mind. You've said it extremely well! The only difference between a Breeder's Group and the Promotional Groups is the emphasis would be on creating and maintaining QUALITY BREEDING PRACTICES, rather than putting on clinics and shows. Not that a breeders' group couldn't sponsor clinics; particularly those having to do with educating breeders. Helping those not so knowledgeable, as you've pointed out. --- --- A breeders' group formed for the purpose of putting on seminars, clinics, etc., to be better informed about the breeding issues of the Fjord could help ALL breeders do a good job - if the membership is not limited in anyway, ie. no exclusive definition of a breeder. This would allow access to the group for small breeders - those who have only a mare or two, no stallion on premises, produce only a few foals, BUT want to produce only very good foals. The small breeder is often the one with limited resources and limited access to advice and information. He is the one who needs the shared knowledge of experienced breeders in order to produce good (sometimes great) foals. If the needs of the smaller breeders are not addressed, they are the ones who will be unable, often, to produce good horses - to the detriment of the breed. Often these small breeders are just as passionate about the breed as the bigger breeders - they own one or two really good mares that they either bought or raised and want to use them to produce good foals for the breed - but they do not have the resources to go bigtime. - Mary, You're absolutely right! To be blunt about it, there's a big difference between a concientious breeder, and someone who just multiplies horses. The first deserves to be called a BREEDER! I better not tell you what I think of the other kind. -- The first are the people I'd like to be associated with, and it makes absolutely no difference whether they're big, small, full-time, or part-time. What does matter is seriousness of purpose, intent, reverence for the breed, knowledge, or a willingness to be educated. I speak from experience here. You would not believe how incredibly hard it is to find out ANYTHING about Fjords - let alone find a good stallion for your prize mare - if you are small, out of the main loop, live on the edge of nowhere, and have little cash resources. Hard, yes - but not impossible! How much easier it would have been for us to have had some organization we could go to for basic information. -- Yes, I would believe how hard it is to find out things wherever we live. I live on the eastern edge of North America. I could get a little further away if I lived in Newfoundland, but not much. Personally, I would like to belong to a group having the common interest of breeding the best possible Fjords. A group that could share resources and knowledge. I had a private email the other day from someone who liked the idea of a Breeders Group. He pointed out that a Breeders Group might make a co-operative purchase of a high quality European stallion. Such a venture would benefit the breed as a whole, and the breeders involved as well as the general Fjord-buying public. That, of course, is just an example of what could be done. --- I'm a big fan of co-operatives! --- This should be one of the goals of any breeders' group - if you ignore the little guy, it is to the detriment of the breed. This said, I think the idea could be workable. Just be careful that it does not become an exclusive rich man's club.
Norway video
This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello ListLife is slowly getting back to normal after our wonderful Norway trip. Brian has been editing the many hours of video tape into a two hour productionhome video quality, mind you, but a good representation of the week's forced march. He is having it professsionally copied right now so as not to lose the quality. We are having 20 copies made and are offering it at $25 including shipping on a first come first serve basis. Please contact us privately. Content includes the four shows and various test (jumping and free movement). The Norwegians used English for show results and with B's commentary the video presents an overall picture of Nordfjordeid. An additional tool for education, and understanding the need for further Evaluations in N. America. You can also see Faxsie at Alhus (yellow dun) 10 copies are sold already, so you will have to move on this if interested. Ursula |---| | Ursula Brian Jensen from Trinity Fjords | | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Equus
This message is from: Jon A. Ofjord [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did anyone notice in the June issue of Equus , page 101, the mention of Ingvild Nygaard's fjord horse website? Fjord horse enthusiasts will love http://home.sol.no/~snygaard/fjord.html an attractive, informative tribute to this unique Norwegian breed. Congratulations Ingvild. Hope you are still on the list! Jon
Re: DEFINITION OF A PROFESSIONAL
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Goodday from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - NFHR Registrar, Mike May wrote - SOLE income from breeding Norwegian Fjords?y Fjord breeders in the last 10 years, and not one of them can claim that they only breed these horses for a living. And I have probably met and talked to many more. I don't know of any that make their SOLE income from Fjords either. Not even Carol at Beaver Dam Farm does. I guess I would like to hear the definition of a Professional Breeder too. Or the definition of a Non-Professional Breeder. A Breeder is the owner of the mare at the time of service. So anyone can be a breeder as long as you are a owner of a mare. Owning a stallion only makes you a stallion owner it doesn't make you a breeder (Professional or otherwise). Mike --- Mike wants to know the definition of a PROFESSIONAL BREEDER. This confusion about definitions reminds me of CLINTON when he said - Depends on how you define the word 'IS', or how you define the word - 'ALONE'. Clinton set a new standard for definitions. I would think the term PROFESSIONAL BREEDER would be perfectly clear. However, I understand that from Mike's point of view as Registrar, the word breeder refers to the owner of the dam at time of service. Yes, he/she is the breeder of that mare, but is the owner of one or two mares who occasionally breeds a PROFESSIONAL BREEDER? Here's a definition of PROFESSIONAL - ONE WHO HAS AN EXPERT KNOWLEDGE OF A COMPLEX DISCIPLINE, AND WHO MAKES HIS LIVING FROM WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE AN AVOCATION. I AM a professional breeder. . Revenue from our FJORD BUSINESS is the SOLE INCOME SUPPORT of Beaver Dam Farm. We pay taxes on the PROFIT from our Fjord business. --- Mike says not even Carol from Beaver Dam Farm can claim her sole income is from Fjords. Really, Mike? Do you know something the IRS and Revenue Canada do not? The word professional is pretty well defined by the tax people, particularly as it applies to horse breeders as opposed to hobbyists. You have to be serious and convince the taxman that you are seriously in business, working towards profit, and not doing it as a hobby. --- And despite what some people think, profit is not a dirty word. It is, indeed, possible to be a concientious breeder who loves his horses, and cares for them and uses them very well . . . and not go broke in the process. The owner of the mare at the time of service is technically the breeder of the foal for registration purposes. No argument from me. However, that certainly doesn't make that person a professional breeder. However, I don't believe a person has to make his sole living from his breeding business in order to be a Professional Breeder. It's a question of seriousness, quality of product, intent, and volume. -- For instance, someone who has a milk cow in his backyard is not in the Dairy Business. Wouldn't you agree? If you're a surgeon, and own a mare that you may breed once or twice, how would you answer the question - What is your profession? I think the answer would be surgeon. If you're a lawyer, and play golf every weekend, how would you answer the question - What is your profession? Would you say golfer? Mike also wants to know, - What is a non-professional breeder. The answer is not as clear. Dare I say backyard breeder ? -(please!!! no offense intended). -- People who have one or two mares, and breed once in awhile. These people are serious and knowledgeable about quality breeding. However, they are not breeding as a profession. They are mare owners not breeders, despite the fact that for registration purposes, they are, indeed, classified as the breeder of the resulting foal. A MANDATE FOR HORSE BREEDERS, Professional or not - The breeder should always strive for perfection, but in stallions, there are no excuses. Regards, Carol Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf
belated birth announcement
This message is from: McInvailles [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear list, On Saturday, May 8 our mare gave birth to a beautiful big filly! (She never waxed). We named the filly Kaia and she was worth the wait(360 days gestation). Sorry to be so delayed, but our system crashed and I lost all the email!! Krissy Mcinvaille Lancaster, NH Where the sun is melting the night's frost and Mount Washinton is free of clouds.
